Speaker 1: What do you call two guys that were there when
Speaker 1: this happened? Back to return at Spurlock Michael Spurlock at
Speaker 1: the chin. He's still the twenty He's the twenty five
Speaker 1: thirty top Moty yardline history, fifty forty, the thirty yards
Speaker 1: like Michael Rout, Michael Rut Michael run stop, tap, there
Speaker 1: you go, and then sixty two yards for your goal attempts.
Speaker 1: It is God, God, God, God box me Eagles, who
Speaker 1: can forget again? I'm looking at the already bucks diredy
Speaker 1: touchdown tamp a day, Derek Books, spariable player. You're the
Speaker 1: national football like ThReD Is tun Daggers in where are
Speaker 1: you gonna win the Super Bowl? We call them the
Speaker 1: salty dogs? Ho ho hoh? Is it all joke there?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could use it. You're probably
Speaker 1: not start I am not, I am not. I'm stopping.
Speaker 1: It's Christmas. It's christ I was referring to Christmas and
Speaker 1: all the holidays. Yeah, which is rapidly approaching us. Got
Speaker 1: your get your shopping done? Um no, do you do
Speaker 1: any shopping? Okay, well then you do have your shopping done? Well? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's true, that's true. I got mine done over the weekend.
Speaker 1: You did. Yeah, Oh, you mentioned to me that you
Speaker 1: actually went to the mall. There were a lot of
Speaker 1: people there. At least everybody was wearing a mask. Well
Speaker 1: that's good, Yeah they had. I even saw security people
Speaker 1: block and pipe people saying, pull that up over your
Speaker 1: house like that, Yes, wear your mask. It's a good thing.
Speaker 1: Um Like that should be the gift, right, everybody giving
Speaker 1: the masks everyone just where where it doesn't give, it
Speaker 1: doesn't cost you anything, and it gives so much. It's
Speaker 1: the gift that keeps on giving. So the Buccaneers, that's
Speaker 1: what is that crazy game? Or what it is? Are
Speaker 1: we a normal game this year? I mean Carolina was
Speaker 1: maybe the closest we've where we it started. I gotta
Speaker 1: prove another point. And I know I'm pointing these out,
Speaker 1: but remember I tell you just don't know. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the Jets off the rams, and I'm also
Speaker 1: talking about Cincinnatio over Pittsburgh. That's two out of that's
Speaker 1: two out of fifteen games. So it's that percent less
Speaker 1: than five. No, it's more like al right, so there
Speaker 1: you can more than ten. Okay, that's why every game
Speaker 1: is so important. I never they never argued that you
Speaker 1: you like to put words into my mouth. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that you don't know who's gonna win and who's
Speaker 1: gonna lose. But you can have a pretty good idea
Speaker 1: and usually it goes the way you expect. Yes, And
Speaker 1: but there's those surprises. Now that's what makes it fun.
Speaker 1: And then that takes us to the Buccaneer game, because hey,
Speaker 1: the first half it was proving my point you just
Speaker 1: never know the second if by the end of the
Speaker 1: half you did know. I'm just saying, we we can't seem.
Speaker 1: We can't seem obviously we're having a tough time playing
Speaker 1: four quarters at the same level. And I know Bruce
Speaker 1: Um made that point very emphatically to his team after
Speaker 1: that game. If you guys can play like this two quarters,
Speaker 1: why can't you do it for four quarters? And if
Speaker 1: you keep playing like this, you're not gonna make good teams.
Speaker 1: You can't you can't spot good, good, good good teams.
Speaker 1: We're not coming back from seven tween points down with
Speaker 1: about four minutes left in the third quarter against well
Speaker 1: against the Saints. And yeah, we kind of proved that
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. All of those teams. So yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what it was. I think we scored with they you know,
Speaker 1: we scored out a halftime, real nice drive and if
Speaker 1: they can hey, it's only ten points and we look
Speaker 1: good there we got a shot. But the best defense
Speaker 1: immediately allows the best line of the broadcast after that
Speaker 1: drive was over with Dave goes where was that in
Speaker 1: the first half. My favorite play on that was the
Speaker 1: one that Mike Evans that got it down pretty close
Speaker 1: to the goal line because they had to they had
Speaker 1: to replay of that afterwards from straight on from the
Speaker 1: end zone looking at it down, so you're you're watching
Speaker 1: the view sort of like with the quarterback Woods and
Speaker 1: it's a It's a really cool route because the corners
Speaker 1: right there and Mike kind of does a little out
Speaker 1: thing and then he ends up kind of curling around
Speaker 1: the guy and Tom throws the ball while Mike's still
Speaker 1: on this side, on the right side of the defender,
Speaker 1: but he catches it on the left side of the defender.
Speaker 1: It was just, I mean, it's a precise. The route
Speaker 1: has to be precise, and the past has to be
Speaker 1: perfect for that play to work, because when you watch
Speaker 1: it on the replay, you realize, man, that's just like
Speaker 1: threaded the needle. It was a great play. And then
Speaker 1: we started making a lot of great plays. There is
Speaker 1: there is some great plays throughout the whole game. And
Speaker 1: and Atlanta came out. It was like they they had
Speaker 1: a game plan and it worked. For the first half.
Speaker 1: They were very aggressive, aggressive. They were playing, as the
Speaker 1: saying goes, like they have nothing to lose. I think
Speaker 1: they maybe, you know, they kind of blew through all
Speaker 1: their good stuff in the first half though, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's well, yeah, they were. They were very aggressive with
Speaker 1: their with their blitzing, which is obviously big risk, big reward,
Speaker 1: but it was working. So they kept doing it right
Speaker 1: and they did the fourth They went from on fourth
Speaker 1: down from right around midfield or fairly early in the game. Um,
Speaker 1: I honestly believe that had that game not unfolded a
Speaker 1: little bit differently, we would have seen like a fake
Speaker 1: punch or some kind of trick play. I think they
Speaker 1: were gonna pull out all stops, but then kind of
Speaker 1: we got on a roll in the second half and
Speaker 1: just rolled over him. But so we gave up. We
Speaker 1: get that touchdown, you're feeling better because you are only
Speaker 1: down ten and there's plenty of time left, and now
Speaker 1: you can show you can do it some but then
Speaker 1: the defense immediately allows an answering sevent touched on driving,
Speaker 1: You're like, well, we're never gonna come back if they
Speaker 1: can score every time they get the ball right right,
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, you're not gonna if you're trading scores,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do very well because we're already down seventeen.
Speaker 1: You can't really trade. I'm not great in math, but
Speaker 1: I got that one. Figured it would take a while. So, uh,
Speaker 1: they're at seven. They scored it about seven and a
Speaker 1: half minutes left in the third quarter, so right in
Speaker 1: the middle of it. And by the time we scored,
Speaker 1: we scored on the next drive. But by the time
Speaker 1: we scored there was about three and half mints left
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. That is the latest that the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers have ever started a comeback to win from seventeen
Speaker 1: points or down. So like, for instance, we beat Detroit
Speaker 1: some years ago up in Detroit when we were down seventeen,
Speaker 1: like right away, like everything went wrong, but they weren't.
Speaker 1: Detroit wasn't very good that year, and um we ended
Speaker 1: up rolling on Remember yeah, I remember that and we're
Speaker 1: we probably had to lead by halftime. I actually think
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli was the head coach that So it's a
Speaker 1: good thing we didn't lose because it was the O
Speaker 1: six season, right, you don't want to be on the
Speaker 1: wrong side of that history. So you know you're talking
Speaker 1: about what Dave said, where was this all? Here's what
Speaker 1: Here's what I said early in the game. I was
Speaker 1: a little bit I was a little bit stalty, if
Speaker 1: you will. I was a little bit cranky early in
Speaker 1: that game. I was cranky all day. And it started
Speaker 1: right away because on their very first possession, the first
Speaker 1: two plays go well, we stopped him. They only got
Speaker 1: like I think we stopped him for a loss of
Speaker 1: one Devin White and Lavante on the first run and
Speaker 1: they got a two yard pass. We tackled real quick,
Speaker 1: I think Carlton. So it's third and nine and we're like, okay,
Speaker 1: we can finally get off to a fast start. They
Speaker 1: decided to take the ball first, Atlanta when the toss
Speaker 1: and decided to take the ball first. That's another aggressive move.
Speaker 1: We were surprised by that. Well, it just means you
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna go right down the field and
Speaker 1: score and they did. Teams have been doing that to
Speaker 1: us game after game after game, but we had them
Speaker 1: in third night. You're like, we're gonna get our fast
Speaker 1: start here. All we gotta do is stop third and
Speaker 1: nine and the coverage was great. He had to dump
Speaker 1: off to two tied Gurley over the middle, probably like
Speaker 1: a four or five year pass. Devin White was in
Speaker 1: the right spot, comes running up to make the tackle,
Speaker 1: and he can't make the tackle and sends out, stends
Speaker 1: out of it, gets past the sticks, and now and
Speaker 1: now I put together driving You're like, one play, it
Speaker 1: was like the missed Rob Gronkowski passed from Tom Brady
Speaker 1: in the Minnesota game was the only reason, really you
Speaker 1: had a slow start on offense. Here was the reason
Speaker 1: why on defense. But it does. It comes down to
Speaker 1: those things. So I'm salty, right, I'm crusty. I'm cranky
Speaker 1: At that point, I wasn't crusty. It's crazy, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that Devin White's a great player,
Speaker 1: and I'm being too much of a fan at this
Speaker 1: point and getting too emotional about if. I'm like, come on,
Speaker 1: you gotta make that tackle on them all piste off
Speaker 1: and then he goes on to have a phenomenal game.
Speaker 1: I mean kin of huge plays, including obviously the three sacks,
Speaker 1: which I think, well he should give half of that
Speaker 1: last one to world goal Stone because Golston pushes mac Into,
Speaker 1: Matt drops him on the ground, and and then uh,
Speaker 1: Devin touches him. Sometimes sometimes you got it, you get
Speaker 1: a gift just at the right time. Actually, the big play,
Speaker 1: I think the game changer play. And you may disagree
Speaker 1: with me, but wind Filled getting his hand up because
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, that would have put them up
Speaker 1: like twenty four to seventeen at that time. Uh would
Speaker 1: have been it when was it or was it a
Speaker 1: field goal? Okay, it would have put him up twenty one?
Speaker 1: They would have been they put a they had to
Speaker 1: settle for a field goal and went for three and uh.
Speaker 1: And then so if if he hadn't broken that up,
Speaker 1: they would have been by seven, and then when Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown scored, it would have only tied the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was I think now that wasn't that play.
Speaker 1: Devin White's second sack, or first of his three sacks,
Speaker 1: was what forced him to go to the field goal
Speaker 1: when it was tied at twenty four, So give him
Speaker 1: credit for that one. The Windfield one. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the Playboy player right now. That was Wasn't that in
Speaker 1: the first half? Oh wasn't Winfield stopping the touchdown? I
Speaker 1: want to say it was in the first half, which
Speaker 1: which to me was like that was the place. I
Speaker 1: don't think so because because Carlton Davis is credited with
Speaker 1: a pass breakup right before the field goal in the
Speaker 1: first half, trying to find the third down, it was.
Speaker 1: It was pretty remarkable. But anyways, it was a great
Speaker 1: play and he he had to run all the way
Speaker 1: over to get it. Looked like he when that passed
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I'm like where is everybody? That guy's
Speaker 1: wide open. So yeah, give the rookie credit. He's had
Speaker 1: a great year. And there was another one, um, so
Speaker 1: great job. Yeah, I mean, I mean you know, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what it was. It was right before it
Speaker 1: was actually on second down. It was right before Devin
Speaker 1: White sacked him. So yeah, he saved a field. He did,
Speaker 1: he did, He saved the touchdown, and then they had
Speaker 1: to kick a fifty tyard field goalfortunately they have a
Speaker 1: guy who never misses, fortunately for them, So yeah, they
Speaker 1: went up by three. If not for Winfield is incredible play.
Speaker 1: That would have been up by seven. Yeah, I knew
Speaker 1: it was there was it was a four point swing.
Speaker 1: But even before Devon, even before Devon made all those
Speaker 1: sacks in the fourth quarter, he immediately started making an
Speaker 1: impact because on the second drive, you remember Atlanta's second drive,
Speaker 1: they once again we're moving the ball really well, and
Speaker 1: they got into Buck's territory. And then on three straight plays,
Speaker 1: Devin White made the play and he broke up a
Speaker 1: past to Luke Stocker, he trapped Brian Hilln for four
Speaker 1: yard loss and a run, and then he stopped Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley after just five yards on a short pass. All
Speaker 1: three Devon, White and Row and that that made him punt.
Speaker 1: So he ended up with a huge stuff. It just
Speaker 1: and that's what you talked about, you know, when you're
Speaker 1: talking about, well, if if Devon would have made the tackle,
Speaker 1: it would have been fourth down. Well and on the
Speaker 1: other hand, if he wasn't there to make all those
Speaker 1: other plays, right, So but that's what happens. You're go ahead, Well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's been why you see that,
Speaker 1: but it's like it's a warm up act and that's
Speaker 1: how we started this assuming why does it take some
Speaker 1: Why does it take so long? But in the in
Speaker 1: it's just one mistackle. You could have happened at any
Speaker 1: point in the game. Now see, I understand that a
Speaker 1: slow start and it's getting everybody all cranked up, but
Speaker 1: it but to one. But but when you get to
Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's gonna be tough to to duplicate that.
Speaker 1: The problem with that problem, and what makes it so
Speaker 1: frustrating is it's really it's hard to pin down. I mean,
Speaker 1: why is it happening why? I mean, you can you
Speaker 1: can say something. You can say, I guess the symptoms.
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're having trouble in third downs early on,
Speaker 1: and that's really the main reason. But why, that's the
Speaker 1: part that nobody can figure out. And it's just it's
Speaker 1: either gonna happen. I think it's funny because everybody wants
Speaker 1: to tell you the reasons why, or you know, bring
Speaker 1: consultants in, uh, you know, yell at the players or
Speaker 1: yeah you gotta. You got a pretty solid veteran coaching
Speaker 1: staff and I think they've seen almost every trick in
Speaker 1: the book to press the right buttons. Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: should be able to do. Yeah, and then I like
Speaker 1: it at halftime is everybody goes, what are the big
Speaker 1: adjust when you're making it halftime and coach goes, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we go to the bathroom and we have Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's only thirteen minutes, and they're not they're not in
Speaker 1: the locker room for thirteen minutes. When the when when
Speaker 1: the referee says end of the first half, the thirteen minute'
Speaker 1: clock begins. So it's back and forth. So it's about
Speaker 1: ten minutes because that they come back out, you know early.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and some of that time is devoted to
Speaker 1: yelling about and getting piste off and slamming your helmets
Speaker 1: into lockers and things like that important stuff. Well, you
Speaker 1: gotta release it somehow, you know what I find interesting
Speaker 1: And I just want to bring it up because we're
Speaker 1: talking about all those Devin White sex and when you
Speaker 1: talk about Um Todd Bowls in particular being you know,
Speaker 1: he's known as a very aggressive defensive coordinator, dials up
Speaker 1: a lot of blitz, is more than the average, and
Speaker 1: I think that is true, and uh, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like Greg Williams. The reputation for
Speaker 1: being ultra aggressive, but it hurts his team. Todd knows
Speaker 1: how to be aggressive in a way that helps the
Speaker 1: team most you know, most of the time, it's not
Speaker 1: always gonna work out. But it's been pretty good. But
Speaker 1: what I think that, and I have to admit I
Speaker 1: didn't really have a good grasp on this until a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. But sometimes when you have an
Speaker 1: extra pass rusher, it's not really a called blitz and
Speaker 1: let me so let me in the second pro serius
Speaker 1: is one of the reasons why things started going better
Speaker 1: in the second half as we started playing more man
Speaker 1: to man and that was working okay. So when you're
Speaker 1: playing man to man, a lot of times, the responsibility
Speaker 1: of one of the linebackers in this case Devin White
Speaker 1: is the running back is in the backfield, so I'd
Speaker 1: say his shotgun snap the running backs next to him,
Speaker 1: all right, Lots of times that running back leaves and
Speaker 1: you have to cover him. Lots of times he stays
Speaker 1: into block the Devin White playing inside linebacker there he
Speaker 1: in this particular play, he has responsibility on that back.
Speaker 1: As soon as he sees that that back is he stopped,
Speaker 1: he doesn't come in the blitz at the snap but
Speaker 1: when he sees that the back is staying into block,
Speaker 1: then he knows I can go in there. I mean,
Speaker 1: technically they could do a release, you know, and and
Speaker 1: throw to the back later. But if he thinks he's
Speaker 1: staying into block, then he's coming on his own. It
Speaker 1: sound like Todd Bowle says, you're blitzing on this play.
Speaker 1: It's the linebacker decides and knows because that's what they're
Speaker 1: told to do. When the man they're covering is staying
Speaker 1: in the block, then go after the quarterback. And that's
Speaker 1: why he was coming into the So it's not necessarily
Speaker 1: a called blitz. You see my point. It's the factor
Speaker 1: of playing man to man and the the linebacker having
Speaker 1: responsibility on that running back. So I found that cool
Speaker 1: when I learned it a couple of years ago. I
Speaker 1: just thought it is it When you look back at
Speaker 1: that game, it's like it's two different teams. It's two
Speaker 1: different teams. You know, there's it's a team that's that
Speaker 1: is five and nine, and then there's the team that's
Speaker 1: nine and five. It really, uh, I wouldn't say it
Speaker 1: that way, just because you average those teams out in
Speaker 1: your seven and seven. So the team that played in
Speaker 1: the second half was more like a team that's eleven
Speaker 1: and three. Okay, that's fair, right, sure, Sure, that's how
Speaker 1: good that team is. That's the team that can pummel
Speaker 1: green Bay thirty to ten, and Green Bay is probably
Speaker 1: gonna win the first seat. Yeah, that's a team that
Speaker 1: can make a run in the playoffs. And the other
Speaker 1: team is a team that's not getting The other team
Speaker 1: is pumped first week. Oh yeah, man, I'm not even
Speaker 1: getting now, Jeff, it is it would be. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: knock on wood. It's gonna take a lot for the
Speaker 1: Bucks not to make the playoffs at this point. This
Speaker 1: is true. They have not clinches this because Minnesota and
Speaker 1: Chicago didn't do us the favor of tying. They haven't
Speaker 1: clinched as of December. And I have to say that
Speaker 1: because you might be listening to this over the weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: before the game started, right, because three teams have clinched.
Speaker 1: Three teams have clinched in the NFC, Green Bay which
Speaker 1: is also clinched this division, New Orleans, which has not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's digress there for a moment, because a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, if I told you, and I probably did,
Speaker 1: that the only way the Bucks can still win the
Speaker 1: division is they have to win all four of the
Speaker 1: remaining games and the Scenes have to lose for the
Speaker 1: remaining games. The chances that happening are very very slim,
Speaker 1: especially when you're relying on a team that was two. Now,
Speaker 1: this is kind of buying into my theory about you
Speaker 1: can't trust all teams, right, All I am saying is
Speaker 1: that if you know, if you can if they lose,
Speaker 1: if they lose all four, you know, you know that's
Speaker 1: but you're you keep going back to this argument about
Speaker 1: I'm saying. All I'm saying on the argument is most
Speaker 1: of the times the good teams are going to beat
Speaker 1: the best. Yes, that's why the bad teams end up
Speaker 1: one and thirteen, But now and then, but that's beat
Speaker 1: the ram. You never know. By the way, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about because it's created kind of an interesting thing.
Speaker 1: But first of all, the NFC South, Okay, that looked
Speaker 1: nearly impossible two weeks ago, three weeks ago, I thought
Speaker 1: it actually longer than that. When we lost our second
Speaker 1: game against the Saints, I didn't think we had a
Speaker 1: shot at in the division. Right. But even so, when
Speaker 1: you can actually put the terms on it, go four
Speaker 1: straight wins, four straight losses. Um, then you're going with
Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. So but now two weeks later,
Speaker 1: two straight wins, two straight losses by the Saints, And
Speaker 1: now now what you need is two straight wins by
Speaker 1: the Bucks. They're going to be favorite in both games.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, and just beat Atlanta and playing them again.
Speaker 1: And Detroit, I don't know what it's. What's about us
Speaker 1: doing salty dogs? But Detroit closed down today because of COVID.
Speaker 1: They closed their facility. They had uh didn't say who,
Speaker 1: but they had positive tests, so they closed their facility down.
Speaker 1: I had not read that yet. I've been kind of
Speaker 1: slammed all day. But um, they also have a ton
Speaker 1: of injuries. They have a they have a ton of injuries.
Speaker 1: They fight a guy with a fractured throat. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't even look it up. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like trending on Twitter. I like, I don't even
Speaker 1: want what is it? A fractured throat or neck? They
Speaker 1: called a fractured throat. I don't know what. Didn't hear
Speaker 1: you fracture your voice box? Sounds awful though, that's Frank
Speaker 1: Ragnow there Pro Bowl center. One of the Lions three
Speaker 1: Pro bowlers, which is three times as many as the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers got. Yeah, you get to that in a bit too.
Speaker 1: Don't even give me star. So anyway it with that team.
Speaker 1: They fired their head coach, they fired their special teams,
Speaker 1: and their special teams quartering went renegade. They're losing, and
Speaker 1: he decides to call a fake punt. And he would
Speaker 1: have made it had they had everybody else knew. No,
Speaker 1: he would have made it if they would have challenged
Speaker 1: the spot. Yes, yes, and whoever their head coaches didn't
Speaker 1: challenge the spot. Yes, because he was so upset that
Speaker 1: he didn't know about the fake punt. But if you're
Speaker 1: gonna do a fake punt, you can't tell everybody. It's
Speaker 1: got to be a surprise. Should be a surprise from
Speaker 1: what I heard some of the players. Yeah, but we
Speaker 1: also have heard that that's more of a final straw
Speaker 1: kind of thing than he's like, can fire from one thing. No,
Speaker 1: And and his name's I can't remember his last names combs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he but he probably figured he had nothing to lose. Anyways,
Speaker 1: because in a couple of weeks, the whole staff, the
Speaker 1: whole staff fire. The fun thing is their special teams
Speaker 1: have been pretty good. Matt Freighter isn't having the best year,
Speaker 1: but the Hunter was going to the Pro Bowl. They've
Speaker 1: covered well, they've blocked three points. But anyway, we are
Speaker 1: really digressing here. No, but we're playing Detroit, so we're
Speaker 1: kind of give you are. But I'm saying to still
Speaker 1: win the division, you need to win. You need to
Speaker 1: beat Detroit in Atlanta, and you need New Orleans to
Speaker 1: lose too. I believe in Minnesota Vikings on Christmas Day
Speaker 1: and then the North North carol Carolina Carolina Panthers their
Speaker 1: last game of the year, so I don't think they're
Speaker 1: gonna lose to Carolina. But it's hard about Drew Brees
Speaker 1: and how how good to go? I mean, they did
Speaker 1: score twenty seven points. Yeah, but did you see that game?
Speaker 1: I watched. I didn't see all of it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: watched that game. I watched the back part of it. Um,
Speaker 1: he didn't look right. He That's what I've been he looked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he looked like he hadn't played. But I think it's
Speaker 1: more than that. I really do. I'm not. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know how after three weeks. You come back
Speaker 1: from eight. I had one crack room, but I could
Speaker 1: hardly move. Men have never suffered that. It's the worst
Speaker 1: thing ever because they don't do anything. You don't do anything,
Speaker 1: and then oh you do not cough and you do
Speaker 1: not And if you have a sneeze, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: What if you have some prankster run your house is
Speaker 1: constantly making you laugh? You you I can't say what
Speaker 1: you do that person, but it's not but it's not nice. Anyway. Yes, um,
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of all over the board today, if
Speaker 1: you notice. I know, I'm just in that holiday spirit
Speaker 1: so to speak. Um. Anyway, getting back to the playoff picture.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so if they if they lose, if they
Speaker 1: lose both games, and we win both games, then we
Speaker 1: win the no, it's not only win, and then the
Speaker 1: Bucks win the NFC South and they have a home
Speaker 1: playoff game. Yeah, probably against I don't care who it's against.
Speaker 1: Probably against the Rams. See that, you know, everybody goes, oh,
Speaker 1: you know you want this pick and go you get
Speaker 1: to play the NFC East team. You know there, I
Speaker 1: look at it this way. You have to play, and
Speaker 1: I get it that you're you're assuming that because it's
Speaker 1: the weaker team that you're gonna that you're just gonna win.
Speaker 1: It does, but do you want to play it? I
Speaker 1: want to play at home game? You want to play
Speaker 1: an eleven five Rams team that has already beaten us
Speaker 1: once on the road, Or do you want to play
Speaker 1: a seven and eight and one washing or whatever they are?
Speaker 1: I think Washington team. I think in the playoffs you
Speaker 1: want to play at home. Well but okay, but that's
Speaker 1: probably not gonna happen. So what you're talking about it
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to it in a second, is
Speaker 1: potentially getting up to the five seed. Yeah, okay, so
Speaker 1: the Bucks can still win the division. It still isn't
Speaker 1: the most likely thing to happen, know it's will, but
Speaker 1: it might. It could be. It could be a fun
Speaker 1: Christmas Day and then the next day. You know. So
Speaker 1: first of all, the first thing that can happen is
Speaker 1: those three teams I mentioned before have already clinched, and
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers are the next in line. They could be
Speaker 1: the fourth team in because we play first. Well, so
Speaker 1: there's a Friday game between New Orleans and Minnesota, so
Speaker 1: nobody's normans is already in Minnesota can't clinch. They need
Speaker 1: a ton of crap to happen for the beginning now,
Speaker 1: so they the Buccaneers place the first of the three
Speaker 1: Saturday games, and if they win, they're in. So the
Speaker 1: Bucks take care of business. They're the fourth team, and
Speaker 1: even if the Bucks lose at Detroit, we could still
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs by the end of the weekend
Speaker 1: if Chicago loses. Now, Chicago is playing at Jacksonville, which
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me is the greatest team ever. But um,
Speaker 1: they're not the greatest team. But I don't think the
Speaker 1: Bears are that good. No, I don't think the Bears are.
Speaker 1: I think that could be a good game. So I
Speaker 1: hope so, because that would be nice. In fact, that
Speaker 1: Chicago lost would pretty much maybe Mike glenn And will
Speaker 1: give us a gift. He almost did against the can't
Speaker 1: keep track. I can't keep tracking. So Chicago pretty much
Speaker 1: is the that's the key. If they lose, your field
Speaker 1: is pretty much set. Yeah, with the Rams the but
Speaker 1: there's a perfect example with the Rams's and the Jets
Speaker 1: fans are probably not even happy about it. No, they're
Speaker 1: not just lost. Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, they can't win for losing.
Speaker 1: It's terrible to be in that situation. That's a hard
Speaker 1: but they should have never let Todd go. Well yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you look at that situation. I think they'll be making
Speaker 1: another move soon. Yeah. There seems to be a lot
Speaker 1: of the head coaches getting moved around again, which sucks.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you brought that or we ended up
Speaker 1: coming around to that Jets Rams gaming in because it
Speaker 1: created a situation that I hadn't really realized was possible
Speaker 1: until after it happened, and that is that the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: can now move up from the sixth to the fifth seed, which,
Speaker 1: as you were pointing out, would mean you get to
Speaker 1: play the NFC East champion, which I think is an
Speaker 1: advantage over playing at the Rams or those Seahawks, or
Speaker 1: the Packers or those Saints. I would rather go and
Speaker 1: play whoever wins the MC East if I have my choice, Okay,
Speaker 1: all the books, I'd rather go play in the cold.
Speaker 1: I'd rather the opponent. I don't think the cold is
Speaker 1: that big of a deal for us problem um, at
Speaker 1: least at least not with not with Tom Brady. Yeah,
Speaker 1: however he has he has become a Floridian quite quickly,
Speaker 1: so it's yeah, well it happens. So my point being,
Speaker 1: because of that result, and now Seattle is actually in
Speaker 1: first place in the in that division. In the Rams
Speaker 1: are back into the wild card spot, but one of
Speaker 1: the two of them is gonna win the division. And
Speaker 1: they play each other this weekend and the winner of
Speaker 1: that game is probably gonna win the division. But because
Speaker 1: that thing happened, the Buccaneers now actually can win the
Speaker 1: fifth seed just by winning their last two games or
Speaker 1: what else happens? Did you know that? And the reason is,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to find the most recent thing I
Speaker 1: wrote about it, so I can this is a good
Speaker 1: podcasting right here that well, because you're looking it up,
Speaker 1: you're trying to be accurate information. I want to I
Speaker 1: want to say it the right because do you do
Speaker 1: know that when people listen to this podcast, they are
Speaker 1: googling and checking to see if I'm righting on anything.
Speaker 1: You do know that kind of keeping it? It's the
Speaker 1: story about um. The the story is the story here
Speaker 1: bring it home, because this one bring it home. The
Speaker 1: story about the playoff watch that I did on Oh god,
Speaker 1: I wrote it yesterday, but it went up today. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to find it. Now, Well, I guess I
Speaker 1: can read it on the website. I don't have to
Speaker 1: find the file anyway. So one of those tunes is
Speaker 1: going to be it's gonna win that division. And either
Speaker 1: way it happens, the Buccaneers will have the edge on
Speaker 1: the team that doesn't win the division based on um,
Speaker 1: well here I'll read it ben't gone well for the
Speaker 1: most part. Okay, alright, I'm ready. Seattle. Okay, let's say
Speaker 1: the Seattle wins against the Rams this week and that
Speaker 1: clinches the division for them, so they're not they're not
Speaker 1: an issue anymore in terms of getting the five seeds
Speaker 1: and that put that makes the Rams nine and six
Speaker 1: and the and the best possible total they could get
Speaker 1: be ten. And if the Bucks went out there eleven
Speaker 1: in five and they're one game ahead of the Rams,
Speaker 1: so that had had lost to them doesn't matter. So
Speaker 1: we're really rooting for the Rams against it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why because if the Rams win, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is this one's a little more complicated, they win
Speaker 1: the division. If the Rams win, if the Rams beat Seattle,
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna win the division because they have to
Speaker 1: face Arizona, then I don't remember exactly the details, but
Speaker 1: they will be back tied again and the Rams will
Speaker 1: have had had to head tiebreaker with them, um, because
Speaker 1: they will beat them twice in this scenario. So all
Speaker 1: the Rams would need to would be to win in
Speaker 1: week seventeen or losing week or have the Seahawks lose
Speaker 1: in week seventeen. But even none of that actually matters
Speaker 1: to the Bucks. Okay, if the Rams beat the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: they will either win a division in in week seventeen
Speaker 1: and then we don't worry about them, or if they
Speaker 1: lose in week seventeen, they'll fall to ten and six,
Speaker 1: and again the Bucks and eleven five will be better
Speaker 1: than them if they um. Meanwhile, Seattle, if they lose
Speaker 1: to the Rams, then the best they can be is eleven.
Speaker 1: And so the Rams win the division seattles in the
Speaker 1: wild card, and both Seattle and the Bucks are eleven
Speaker 1: and five. So now you go to tiebreakers. Okay, I
Speaker 1: hate every time we get to tiebreakers. Were never on
Speaker 1: the right end. The well didn't listen on because there's
Speaker 1: exception to every rule, right, there's a Jets beating the
Speaker 1: Rams to every rule, all right, Okay, so two eleven
Speaker 1: and five teams, Seattle and the Buccaneers, first tiebreaker head
Speaker 1: to head, didn't play each other. Second tiebreaker record in
Speaker 1: conference games, both teams would be eight and four in
Speaker 1: this scenario, so that one's no good either. Next tiebreaker
Speaker 1: to the third one between two teams for wild card
Speaker 1: positioning is that aren't in the same division is common
Speaker 1: record in common games. So you look at all the
Speaker 1: teams that both the Bucks and the Seahawks played and
Speaker 1: who did the best in those games. All right, the
Speaker 1: common opponents for us are Atlanta, Minnesota, the Rams, and
Speaker 1: the Giants. Alright, alright, we beat the Giants, we beat
Speaker 1: the Vikings, and we beat Atlanta in this scenario. In
Speaker 1: this scenario, we beat Atlanta twice, okay, and then you
Speaker 1: lost to them. That's four and one against those four teams.
Speaker 1: Pretty good. Meanwhile, in this scenario, the Seahawks would have
Speaker 1: lost twice to the Rams, so that's already. They also
Speaker 1: lost the Giants. If you remember a few weeks back,
Speaker 1: that was that was that was one of my surprise specials.
Speaker 1: And then uh, and then they had wins over at
Speaker 1: Lanta min Sota, so they would be two and three
Speaker 1: in this scenario, there two and three. But my point
Speaker 1: is one or the other scenario is gonna happen. And
Speaker 1: either way, if the Buccaneers went out and go to
Speaker 1: eleven and five, they get the fifth seed. That's pretty
Speaker 1: interesting and encouraging. Encouraging. So even if we win this
Speaker 1: week against the Bears, there's something to play four in
Speaker 1: week seventeen. Yeah, and that that is something that gosh,
Speaker 1: it's been a long time since that's been the kid.
Speaker 1: I always like it that way too, because then you
Speaker 1: don't have this wholecial we rest guys, shall we not
Speaker 1: rest guys? If I'm not a big proponent of resting guys,
Speaker 1: you have a game, I'm a if you get to
Speaker 1: bye week, then you know, by going in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. But I just think that it throws it off.
Speaker 1: It throws everything, It throws everything off. I think it
Speaker 1: throws the continuity. Yeah, we've lived that before. Remember played
Speaker 1: the Eagles in the last game, lost to the Eagles,
Speaker 1: that went to Philadelphia the next week and lost. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that one was actually and we we knew we
Speaker 1: were going to Philly either way, so we said it
Speaker 1: was actually we because I think there was two thousand one,
Speaker 1: and so the Philly game was actually supposed to be
Speaker 1: like Week three, but because nine eleven, it got bumped
Speaker 1: to the season. So everything was already laid out. It
Speaker 1: was just they had to play the game. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and we didn't win either one. Yeah, that's right. The
Speaker 1: second one actually mattered. Uh So you want to talk
Speaker 1: about you want to talk, Well, first of all, some
Speaker 1: sho Donovan Smith today and yes, I know when you're
Speaker 1: gonna listen to it, but recording on Tuesday, Donovan Smith
Speaker 1: activated from the reserve COVID list. He never had it. No,
Speaker 1: he was self quarantine. There just wasn't enough time to
Speaker 1: which which is which is good news because he was
Speaker 1: very fearful of it, but also but also very scary
Speaker 1: because the family. Yeah, you don't want you don't want
Speaker 1: to read that. Hopefully everything's okay with that. But he's back,
Speaker 1: he's back on the practice field. Ronald Jones so so
Speaker 1: far as not. Leonard Fournett took his place and was
Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean he had the two touch on runs.
Speaker 1: He's pretty good. Getting that ball over the goal line
Speaker 1: and getting that ball supposedly across the first down line
Speaker 1: on that last third. Now run, yeah, that was that
Speaker 1: was that Christs Prince and happy hanukkah, you know whatever
Speaker 1: else you celebrate that. I'm just gonna assume that we
Speaker 1: just didn't have the right camera angle because I don't
Speaker 1: know from what we were looking at. And yeah, we
Speaker 1: were looking at it at some pretty raw feeds that you,
Speaker 1: no matter how much wakes. Brings me to the point
Speaker 1: that I think it's still funny that in this age
Speaker 1: of computer chips and laser beams and everything, we're relying
Speaker 1: on two guys in a chain to tell you if
Speaker 1: it's tangy yards. And then I think some people are
Speaker 1: I think some people were pissed because they could see
Speaker 1: daylight be getting the ball. But you if you only
Speaker 1: have that one last link between the stick in the chain,
Speaker 1: if you if if that's still visible, it's still counts.
Speaker 1: So that part isn't a problem. The question was their
Speaker 1: spot good? Yeah, and they just need to put a
Speaker 1: chip in the ball, That's what I'm saying. I can
Speaker 1: tell you exactly what I put two guys in a
Speaker 1: chain from a billion dollar business who so uh yeah,
Speaker 1: so we don't know yet. The other thing I guess
Speaker 1: Carlton Davis left the game with a groin injury. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of a we don't have an injury port yet,
Speaker 1: but it was kind of a walk through today almost,
Speaker 1: so we'll see the problem with that is you're gonna
Speaker 1: feel good and you're gonna go ok and yeah, and
Speaker 1: you don't know when it's gonna happen like a hamstring.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a hard go and wit we really
Speaker 1: we did okay without him being in, but it's sure
Speaker 1: it would be sure nice to have him and Ross
Speaker 1: Cockroll did a nice we got that guy. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: and Jamal Dean played great. I have to say that
Speaker 1: the plug and play has worked pretty decently for the Bucks.
Speaker 1: We had to stick somebody. Yeah, I thought the offensive
Speaker 1: line struggled in the beginning. Uh, but then were crazy right,
Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden it came together. Um,
Speaker 1: and that's not easy, you know, all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you lose Donovan Smith. That's that's a that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: He's an hire man over there. That's only the second
Speaker 1: game he's ever missed. The last one was last year
Speaker 1: against Detroit. It's crazy when you think about it that way,
Speaker 1: but um, Jamal Dean was great. You know, I think
Speaker 1: of him as a speed guy. I do too, but
Speaker 1: he's a pretty big corner, so he was making some nice,
Speaker 1: solid tackles in that game. The one thing we haven't
Speaker 1: talked about was Um the bomb and Antonio Brown. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, talk about it. What do you think of that?
Speaker 1: I liked it? Yes. Did you notice something else about
Speaker 1: that too? Not necessarily okay, is that Mike Evans was
Speaker 1: open also, So yeah, it was two flies, right, and
Speaker 1: so Mike was open too. So who do you well,
Speaker 1: this is why you got two speedsters like that, and
Speaker 1: and and in fairness, Scotty Miller brings that to you too.
Speaker 1: I would think that if you're the quarterback, that just
Speaker 1: must have meant that. Antonio Brown was his first read. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he saw him opening it through before he threw
Speaker 1: saw Mike open. That was beautiful. Yeah, that was perfect.
Speaker 1: It wasn't It was a little of a lower arc
Speaker 1: than some of the other bombs UM this year, and
Speaker 1: it was just right on the money. It was pretty just.
Speaker 1: He's actually thrown nice deep balls the last two games
Speaker 1: in a row. He threw four passes over twenty yards
Speaker 1: in the air in that game and completed three of
Speaker 1: them left, and that could be the comfort level coming
Speaker 1: coming together when you need it the most, I hope.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, it's it's something that people it's
Speaker 1: something that teams are going to have to be aware of.
Speaker 1: It's on tape now, they know it can happen, so
Speaker 1: they got to be ready for it. As long as
Speaker 1: we're talking about this, let's let's take a moment to
Speaker 1: appreciate Mike Evans, who ten yards, who is not going
Speaker 1: to get who isn't wasn't for the Pro Bowl. I
Speaker 1: don't know, he wasn't for the problem. He's still still
Speaker 1: got a it's still a long shot, but he did
Speaker 1: what he needed to do because he needed average about yard.
Speaker 1: So we talked about that last week. So one out
Speaker 1: of three so far, maybe you can still get to
Speaker 1: a thousand. But and if he doesn't, and I will
Speaker 1: say this, you you can put points on the board
Speaker 1: against the Lions. They gave they gave up I think
Speaker 1: forty six last week. They Jeff, they have they wrest
Speaker 1: scoring defense in the last so hopefully hopefully they're giving
Speaker 1: up thirty one point one points per play and they
Speaker 1: are decimated by injuries. Yeah, and so I don't care
Speaker 1: how Mike gets the yards as long as he gets
Speaker 1: them because he deserves it. Well, I think we might
Speaker 1: be able to run the ball against this team. Well
Speaker 1: there's that they're giving up like a hunt forty rushing
Speaker 1: yards game. And it's no it's no shame to give
Speaker 1: up a lot to Derrick Henry, of course, but um,
Speaker 1: they are down a couple of defensive linemen. They're playing
Speaker 1: guys that they just brought up from the practice squad
Speaker 1: that didn't go. It didn't go really well for them,
Speaker 1: so they're susceptible to the run. And I think when
Speaker 1: when and we knew the Panthers were two, and that
Speaker 1: the Panthers game in Caroline is the one game where
Speaker 1: I feel like we came out determined to run the
Speaker 1: ball right from the beginning, and in stark contrast to
Speaker 1: this last game against Atlanta, whose past defense, at least
Speaker 1: by the numbers, was a lot worse than its run defense.
Speaker 1: I don't even think we cared about establishing the run
Speaker 1: in that game. I think we ran the ball like
Speaker 1: once in the first ten plays or something came into
Speaker 1: play a little bit more later but and around the
Speaker 1: goal line. But I don't I think we went into
Speaker 1: that game going we're gonna win this to the air.
Speaker 1: In this particular case against Detroit, I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're susceptible to the past too, don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, especially with cornerbacks there, Jeff o'cuda and
Speaker 1: Desmond Trufon out for the year with injuries now. But um,
Speaker 1: but you start with the run, and it's work, and
Speaker 1: you stay with it because it's just safer and it
Speaker 1: tears up the clock. Right, If you can win by running,
Speaker 1: you run. Usually you can't in today's NFL. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: the Titans due to some extent in the in the ravens. Um.
Speaker 1: All right, as long as we're talking about Mike Evans
Speaker 1: and how great he is, because I think he's playing really,
Speaker 1: really well, really well. Um, we can talk about Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl because he didn't make it, and that's not surprising
Speaker 1: given his numbers this year, and and you you got
Speaker 1: guys like Davante Adams and van DeAndre Hopkins is in
Speaker 1: our conference now, so that if you're gonna say a
Speaker 1: guy should make it, you you have to tell me
Speaker 1: who isn't, who shouldn't, who may it? But shouldn't. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a hard go. But I'm surprised Devin didn't
Speaker 1: get it. I am, and well I always feel that
Speaker 1: way about Lavonte. I think Lavonte has been the most
Speaker 1: unrated player for the past nine seasons at this point,
Speaker 1: and it's never gonna it's not gonna change. But he's
Speaker 1: he's a pretty good dude that accepts it. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm you know, this is when COVID
Speaker 1: really makes me mad. Is I want to go see Lavonte.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I am so happy for
Speaker 1: you when when they clinch a spot for the yes
Speaker 1: and I want to do it. Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: do it in person. I don't want to do it
Speaker 1: via tax or you know. So um, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: I think that there were some pretty strong players, uh
Speaker 1: that didn't make the Pro Bowl. But you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know it's am so um. I think you would
Speaker 1: make arguments. I mean, JPP made it. If anybody here
Speaker 1: doesn't listening, doesn't know, he's the only buck who made
Speaker 1: it this year. He made it eight years after the
Speaker 1: last time he did, which is not a normal thing
Speaker 1: but pretty cool. Uh, so happy for him. He's got
Speaker 1: nine point five sacks he's deserving. Um, I think both
Speaker 1: of our inside linebackers are deserving, but maybe they took
Speaker 1: votes away from each other. And Lavante's counting stats this
Speaker 1: year aren't as high as some of his best seasons,
Speaker 1: but we know he's playing phenomenally. Right, Carlton Davis has
Speaker 1: had a very good year, but you gotta tell me
Speaker 1: you're gonna mock mock drop off. So like, if you
Speaker 1: think Carlton Davis should be on the team, then is
Speaker 1: he better than Jalen Ramsey, j Alexander Marshawn Lattimore and
Speaker 1: James Bradberry. And maybe because I think Marshawn got on
Speaker 1: a little bit by reputation. Well, a lot of it
Speaker 1: is that, and James Bradberry has played pretty well in
Speaker 1: New York and already had the reputation. So it's hard
Speaker 1: to break through at some of these positions. Yeah, especially
Speaker 1: offensive line. I mean we think Alan mar pet as
Speaker 1: an example, is a pro bowler right, well, question the
Speaker 1: three guards that made it, or Elston Jenkins, who's having
Speaker 1: an amazing year from the Packers, well deserved. Brandon shuff again,
Speaker 1: that's the Washington guy. He makes it every year. I
Speaker 1: think when it comes off insive lineman, A lot of
Speaker 1: people voting just go well. And I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: just fans, because it's a three part process. Some player
Speaker 1: in and uh, some player in you know Dallas told
Speaker 1: to vote for some offensive lineman and well, I played
Speaker 1: Brandon shirt that one time. He's pretty good. That's you know,
Speaker 1: you know how it is to when players have to vote.
Speaker 1: They don't like it. They don't like it because they
Speaker 1: don't like picking the time. Yeah, and also it's kind
Speaker 1: of done in a quick fashion because you know, the
Speaker 1: the usually the PR departments in the locker room with
Speaker 1: the sheets and say hey, before you go, you need
Speaker 1: to fill it out. And they're like okay, and they're
Speaker 1: noticing names that they like. You were saying, oh yeah
Speaker 1: I know him, Oh yeah yeah. I mean they're doing
Speaker 1: it real quick to get it on. You remember the
Speaker 1: old days how we used to do it. I don't.
Speaker 1: We used to get all the team at least this
Speaker 1: is how we did in Tampa. The all the team
Speaker 1: into the locker room, which was the meeting room, and
Speaker 1: the coach would stand there and they would go through
Speaker 1: it position and the team would choose together. Because it
Speaker 1: comes it becomes a composite ballot. It's not like player
Speaker 1: A fills it him out and everything he does and
Speaker 1: they go well kind of all. They take it all
Speaker 1: and decide what your team's players have voted for. So
Speaker 1: this was another way of getting to the same point.
Speaker 1: Bring them all in the room, talk it over. We
Speaker 1: think this guy, yeah, cuts the time down, gives somebody
Speaker 1: a little the other thing it does. We used teams
Speaker 1: used to be a lot more strategic about that. You
Speaker 1: can't vote for your own player, but if you've got
Speaker 1: a really great let's see Hardy, you want to get
Speaker 1: Hardy Nickerson in he's a great linebacker with other teams.
Speaker 1: Know what you do is you don't put your vote
Speaker 1: on another great inside linebacker to help them. You put
Speaker 1: it on a guy you know is not gonna make it.
Speaker 1: So you put it on some some random guy for
Speaker 1: the Bears who's not that great, instead of this great
Speaker 1: guy for the There's who is great and could take
Speaker 1: votes away from your guys. So there's used to be
Speaker 1: a little more strategizing to it back then. Now it's
Speaker 1: just trying to get these players to fill up the bouts,
Speaker 1: which I feel for the pr guys having to do that.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll say this, I saw that. I have
Speaker 1: a feeling that if O Jay hadn't got hurt in
Speaker 1: just like the fourth game of the season, he might
Speaker 1: be in the Pro Bowl. Because the Pro Bowl tight
Speaker 1: ends are t J Hockenson Detroit and Evan Ingram the Giants.
Speaker 1: They're both former first round picks. But so it is
Speaker 1: o J. But Evan Ingram isn't having that great of
Speaker 1: a year at all. Hockinson is pretty good. Sixty catches
Speaker 1: for six and seventy yards and six touchdowns. I think
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. I'm not gonna say it's not, but
Speaker 1: I think O J would have ended up with better
Speaker 1: numbers than Evan Ingram. So it's a shame. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: tell you, I've been to a number of Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: games and I know you have to, and um, you
Speaker 1: can compare it the same way I can. Is uh
Speaker 1: the Hawaii Pro Bowl so much cooler than in New
Speaker 1: Orleando one. And it's not a knock against Orlando. It's
Speaker 1: just get into Orlando. Well yeah, and uh it's totally
Speaker 1: totally different. And um, I used to love going to
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl there in multiple times. Yeah, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was my favorite treat. I always might treat to
Speaker 1: myself after a long season. So yes, I just went
Speaker 1: that one time when we got a couple of last
Speaker 1: minute placements like Jami's five People to Me, which was awesome. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a great experience. Not only want to go back
Speaker 1: for a real vacation with my wife, you will enjoy it. Um.
Speaker 1: What about Chris Godden getting um he got you know
Speaker 1: he was talking about I have his name right now.
Speaker 1: Oh so Chris Godwin talked today and he was saying
Speaker 1: how he's glad to get those pins out of his
Speaker 1: fingers because he's getting irritating. But I mean if he
Speaker 1: would have said, you know, I kind of like death
Speaker 1: Field and I'm gonna get pins at all my yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just and a nose ring? Um wow, now what's wrong
Speaker 1: with the nose ring? All right? I will, I will.
Speaker 1: I'm not anti to too, No, I'm not anti piercing.
Speaker 1: The only thing I don't like and it's just because
Speaker 1: I don't like it visually. It's not that I don't
Speaker 1: think a person should be able to express themselves if
Speaker 1: they want to. Is those really wide ear gauges when
Speaker 1: they keep putting the and they just make the hole
Speaker 1: in their ear larger and larger. No offense to anybody
Speaker 1: else who does that that might be listening. You're well within,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm just not sure in fifteen twenty
Speaker 1: years from now, you're going to feel that was a
Speaker 1: good idea. Well, I think you could have surgery to
Speaker 1: get up and well, I guess so, But can you
Speaker 1: be in Mr Medical god Well, I mean it's probably
Speaker 1: be easier to do that than get rid of a
Speaker 1: real big tattoo that you don't like anymore. Well, there's that.
Speaker 1: That's why you always go with mom. You're never going
Speaker 1: to be disappointed. Uh. Godwin was asked about He's one
Speaker 1: of the main things we're gonna be talking about once
Speaker 1: this season ends, because contracts up, right, and I want
Speaker 1: to think about that. I don't think he cares to
Speaker 1: think about it right now either. Um, he's focused on winning,
Speaker 1: as he said, But he did say he'd like to
Speaker 1: stay here. How do you at him and Shack? I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I don't know how you're gonna do
Speaker 1: any of it. I mean you I'd like to have
Speaker 1: in Dominican su back again if he wants to play
Speaker 1: another year. Wow. He that is. That was he has
Speaker 1: played really well, really well. You know, he's played well
Speaker 1: when we lose in the in the run defense is
Speaker 1: still number one in the league. Well, he's certainly helping
Speaker 1: everybody on the line too, you know. And that's that
Speaker 1: is uh yeah, and you know you almost and I
Speaker 1: don't like to say this, but what it happens, and
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate is if you go on I R and
Speaker 1: you're not with the team, it's not I guess you're
Speaker 1: kind of forgotten during the time period. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, When when when the team has managed to
Speaker 1: keep going. And that's what that's what all players hope.
Speaker 1: They hope that the team keeps going. They don't they
Speaker 1: don't want it to to suffer. But I I forgot.
Speaker 1: I didn't forget. I did. I forgot that he wasn't
Speaker 1: in anymore because they're playing so well, you know, he
Speaker 1: hasn't played like right right, yeah, oh yeah, that was
Speaker 1: because of this. Yeah. Oh now you gave me all
Speaker 1: kind of that's the one that kids, you cranked up.
Speaker 1: It just does understand unnecessary. Okay, Yeah, that's about all
Speaker 1: I got. That's it. Yeah, right, so we can get Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go to the questions, Let's go. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: this much. It's we got a couple We got a
Speaker 1: couple of messages from our our friend UM Alexander in Brazil,
Speaker 1: basically mostly just um. He We said, we both said
Speaker 1: we wouldn't mind going to Brazil at some point in
Speaker 1: our lives, and we do reach out and he'll tell
Speaker 1: us where to go. That's good. I'm going to keep
Speaker 1: him in mind because that is on my list. Also
Speaker 1: noted that the the Bucks one and everybody else in
Speaker 1: the division lost this past weekend and wondered if that
Speaker 1: had ever happened before. I'm sure it's having plenty of
Speaker 1: times about it to look it up, because I didn't
Speaker 1: even look at that. I didn't even notice that New
Speaker 1: Orleans and Carolina. I don't remember Carolina played. They didn't pay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't play well. They didn't well they hung in
Speaker 1: there for the first half. No, they hung It was
Speaker 1: like an Apri in game. Yeah, they just didn't look good. No,
Speaker 1: they you know, but they're in the rebuilding process and
Speaker 1: and they let their general manager go, so now they're
Speaker 1: really in a Yeah that the coach gets to pick
Speaker 1: his own Yeah, always you gotta feel you gotta feel
Speaker 1: that that's a possibility time regime, and he'll probably end
Speaker 1: up in Washington with Ron Roberta. So that's right there,
Speaker 1: you go. Um, how about how about with what's crazy?
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna bring it up before we get into
Speaker 1: questions real quick? Um, New England not making the playoffs
Speaker 1: first time since I think I think it was. I
Speaker 1: think it was when Tom Brady got hurt. It was
Speaker 1: the last time they didn't make the playoffs. Yeah, they go,
Speaker 1: they want to say, oh eight, yeah, they elen and
Speaker 1: five yeah, yeah, So I think I think it was that.
Speaker 1: And at the end of an era, uh huh. And
Speaker 1: then Tom's down here and he's still in the hunt,
Speaker 1: which is which is kind of doesn't necessarily prove anything
Speaker 1: but what we wanted to have. Well, if if is
Speaker 1: gonna be one of these gotta play out, it's playing
Speaker 1: out the way I wanted it too. I'm sure, I'm
Speaker 1: sure the ownership group is really happy here. I mean
Speaker 1: the Glazers are probably saying, yeah, that was fifty million
Speaker 1: well spent, but continue. So, um, here's a question from
Speaker 1: sam Nee. Now ah, it's actually about ten questions in one,
Speaker 1: so it's all the only one we really need to
Speaker 1: do a right ten questions in one, Hey dog, I
Speaker 1: might be exaggerating a bit. Hey dogs, I hope you
Speaker 1: and your families are staying safe through everything going on. Sorry,
Speaker 1: this email is a little long. It's pretty cool that
Speaker 1: we were in Week sixteen and still have a shot
Speaker 1: for the number one seed and home field advanced throughout
Speaker 1: the playoffs. If Tampa wins out, Packers lose out, Saints
Speaker 1: lose out, Rams beat the Seahawks, and in lose Week seventeen.
Speaker 1: We were talking a little bit about that Seahawks lose out.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're asking for an awful lot there. Is
Speaker 1: that true? Is that true? Let me look at those
Speaker 1: standings again. M hm, Dad could be fun. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's true. And it sounds like he's reading
Speaker 1: it from Sermer. I certainly didn't put that scenario in
Speaker 1: my playoffs scenarios today. When I was doing that, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get anybody hopes up. So Green
Speaker 1: Bay loses out there eleven and five Saints would be okay.
Speaker 1: So Bucks will eleven, Saints was out. They only have
Speaker 1: ten wins, Seattle wins one of one. They're eleven and five. No, Wight,
Speaker 1: did they have Seattle losing? Now, well, yeah, Seattle loses out.
Speaker 1: Rams go one and one would have to beat Seattle
Speaker 1: and lose to Cardinals. So yeah, there would be eleven
Speaker 1: and five and the Packers will be eleven and five.
Speaker 1: Nobody else would have an eleven wins and we would
Speaker 1: win on their head to hit tiebreaker with them. So
Speaker 1: that is correct. Wow, that's pretty cool. I hadn't thought
Speaker 1: to think that high. I'm reluctant even think about the
Speaker 1: division title. This is going well beyond look at I'm
Speaker 1: just cold my breath to get to the playoffs in time.
Speaker 1: I have a couple of questions. Okay, I know Rojo
Speaker 1: only needs one yards break the thousand mark and Mike
Speaker 1: stills a shot to break the thousand mark receiving. How
Speaker 1: many times does that happen in franchise? I meant to
Speaker 1: look this up franchise history where we've had a one
Speaker 1: k rusher and a one K receiver. I'm guessing two
Speaker 1: thousand fifteen with Mike and Doug, and two thousand and
Speaker 1: twelve of Vincent and Doug, and maybe two thousand and
Speaker 1: ten with Williams and Blunt. This guy's got he is?
Speaker 1: Did you write this? I made this one? I I
Speaker 1: was gonna make it up. I wouldn't make it that good. Really? Wow,
Speaker 1: he's good. I'm sorry? What was Sam? Now? Sam? Nice job? Sam? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm gonna fact check him. Now you're you're
Speaker 1: gonna fact check him? Yeah, I mean you're just assuming
Speaker 1: that he was right about it? Well, why would you
Speaker 1: write it if he wasn't right? Well? I know he's
Speaker 1: right about um two thousand fifteen, because we know that
Speaker 1: Mike Evans has had a thousand yards every year since
Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen. So if you have a thousand yard
Speaker 1: rusher as we did that year, then obviously it's gonna qualify. Um. Here,
Speaker 1: let's just go through it real quick. Alright, So we
Speaker 1: didn't have a thousand year of rush for last year
Speaker 1: or seven or eighteen or seventeen or sixteen, so all
Speaker 1: those are out? Are you laughing? No? I just I
Speaker 1: just moved. Am I laughing? I laugh? Evans? So Evans
Speaker 1: and and Doug Martin in two thousand and fifteen. Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, I can't be right. Oh that's sixteen, Okay,
Speaker 1: nobody in Evans and Doug Martin in two thousand fifteen, Uh,
Speaker 1: Doug Martin didn't. Doug Martin didn't. And then two thousand twelve,
Speaker 1: let's see here Martin and yeah, and and Vincent Jackson
Speaker 1: and Mike I mean, Mike Williams was only four yards
Speaker 1: short of giving us two thousand yards receivers that season. Blunt. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's here's the one who's asking about two tho. No,
Speaker 1: Mike Williams fell short that year too, Um okay, going
Speaker 1: on two thousand and short Cadillac two thousand five, Cadillac
Speaker 1: made it. Yeah, Cadillac and Joey Galloway, you know five.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a great one. That's a
Speaker 1: couple of underrated players. I mean Cadillac. We all know
Speaker 1: he's derailed by injuries. It was a great player, great
Speaker 1: guy to a lot of fun. Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: So was Joey. Yeah. I think Joey is a guy
Speaker 1: that people wouldn't realize how how good of a guy
Speaker 1: he is. I hope not. No, too didn't have the rusher,
Speaker 1: h not No. One and two thousand maybe because we
Speaker 1: would have had so it has happened. I just wondered
Speaker 1: how often, not very Yeah, we didn't. We didn't used
Speaker 1: to have a lot of thousand yard receivers. How about it.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty recent development. Yeah, how about we put
Speaker 1: it this way. Let's see if we can make it
Speaker 1: happen in We just need Mike to really catch fire.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to. I really, I really, And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you you. Listen when he got a hundred
Speaker 1: and ten against Atlanta last week, after I told you
Speaker 1: we needed a d ten every week. Yeah, it like
Speaker 1: and I heard him go, oh, he's got a hundred.
Speaker 1: He's over a hundred yards that I went how much
Speaker 1: over it? It's just clear, it's like, oh, this is awesome.
Speaker 1: This is you know, because now you've got two games,
Speaker 1: it's not so far fetched. It's not so far fetched.
Speaker 1: But he still needs I would like to see him
Speaker 1: have one really big game, and so you're not really
Speaker 1: coming down to the wire. I don't have to have
Speaker 1: like a two fifty game and then be done with it,
Speaker 1: you know, continue, I'm almost done going through the years. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're almost through the years. Gosh, I don't know how you.
Speaker 1: Scott's actually looking at the media guide on his computer
Speaker 1: and he's twirling through it, and I have to tell
Speaker 1: you unless I have that in my hand, I cannot
Speaker 1: find anything. It's you know, where everything is in this meeting?
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it is. I used to do it,
Speaker 1: I used to put it together, but to me, it's cumbersome.
Speaker 1: On So it hadn't happened til two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: and it's happen a couple of times since. Alright, someone
Speaker 1: else did Sam, We're almost done here, all right, Sam?
Speaker 1: What else you get? What else did Sam have to say? Uh? Uh?
Speaker 1: I hope that buck logo that's painted all white in
Speaker 1: the middle of the field is not a sign of
Speaker 1: we're surrendering. It just means that this is Jeff's random thoughts. Things.
Speaker 1: Things just kind of when when the music stops, weird
Speaker 1: stuff happens continue. Okay, Um, what else? Also? Since Shaq
Speaker 1: broke the franchise sack record last year, Mike breaks franchise
Speaker 1: receiving records all the time, and Brady is about to
Speaker 1: get the single season passing TV record. That's right, he's
Speaker 1: got thirty two and it's thirty three. What individual franchise
Speaker 1: record do you think is the least likely to ever
Speaker 1: get broken? God, I really wish I had prepared for these.
Speaker 1: I think I think Shaq Barrett's that's probably that's a
Speaker 1: hard That's that's hard because we've come close. We've we've
Speaker 1: come close in the rushing a few times. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: ten interceptions doesn't happen that much anymore. They had ten
Speaker 1: that one year two thousand. I think, Um, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be tough. The only reason why I think sacks is
Speaker 1: because usually they get split up among people on your line.
Speaker 1: I got a good one for you, all right. In
Speaker 1: Hardy Nickerson's first year here, he had two hundred and
Speaker 1: fourteen tackles. That's a record that still stands. Uh. Actually,
Speaker 1: Barrett Rudy might be surprised to hear was the only
Speaker 1: other one to crack two some yere in the mid
Speaker 1: two thousands. That's not gonna be broken. And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you why. Back then, tackles were not an official stat
Speaker 1: they're really still not official staff but they are at
Speaker 1: least officially compiled by the league. Now. The league didn't
Speaker 1: compile and publish tackle stats back then in the nineties,
Speaker 1: and every team just recorded their own, and most teams
Speaker 1: got him from the coaches. Coaches would grade the film
Speaker 1: and we're giving grades. They'd marked tackles, and sometimes they
Speaker 1: would argue to make sure you got an extra tax. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're close, he got an assist there.
Speaker 1: So you if you were a stat crew um covering
Speaker 1: the game, you might come up with nine tackles in
Speaker 1: the game for Hardy Nickerson, but your coach thinks you
Speaker 1: got fifteen. So not Hardy Nickerson was great and probably
Speaker 1: would have the tackle record. I was waiting for you
Speaker 1: to say that because I was about this. I remember
Speaker 1: that is that you would have your official stat sheet
Speaker 1: on Sunday and then after the coaches grated out, I'd
Speaker 1: get an updated stat sheet and it was always Yeah.
Speaker 1: Falcons actually were notorious for that. Jesse Tuggle, remember, and
Speaker 1: he used to have like two or fifty tackles a
Speaker 1: year a right, and then some peo would do a study, go,
Speaker 1: there weren't that many players to be tackled all year.
Speaker 1: So that's a good one right there. There weren't that
Speaker 1: many plays in the game, all right. I think that's
Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah, yeah, the tackle on it, that
Speaker 1: would probably but I but yeah, I would say that
Speaker 1: would be it. Since you I think that's the end
Speaker 1: of the questions. When he finishes by saying, this is
Speaker 1: a guy from Nashville named Sam. Sam, I think we've
Speaker 1: had a question. Yeah, he's very very good, he is.
Speaker 1: He's got a good questions. That's since you guys were
Speaker 1: curious about how people became Bucks fans. My long story
Speaker 1: short is I was eight and I loved watching all
Speaker 1: Stime run over people during the That's a good reason.
Speaker 1: I was older than eight and I loved watch. Now
Speaker 1: this guy lives in Nashville, and maybe you always did.
Speaker 1: Which now we have to worry about losing him to
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. Which yesterday was I want to say, I
Speaker 1: want to say, was it yesterday? It was Mike's birthday,
Speaker 1: that's cool, and SAP's birthday was believe a lot of
Speaker 1: birthdays in December. He concludes by saying I was always
Speaker 1: exciting when he got the ball, and he just drew
Speaker 1: my interest to the whole team. Yeah. Thanks for the
Speaker 1: great work you both do, and I hope you have
Speaker 1: a merry Christmas. Thanks Sam and Nashville. All right, Sam,
Speaker 1: thanks to you to appreciate a good questions. Listen when
Speaker 1: you have to make Scott rip out the computer and start, well,
Speaker 1: normally I would get these questions right. Ahead of time
Speaker 1: and prepare some answers and then you have to do
Speaker 1: it blind. But I just brought my laptop today and
Speaker 1: it's like, I'll just read it off the laptop this
Speaker 1: time tonight. Well. The other thing too, is we're running
Speaker 1: a short week, and what we mean by that is
Speaker 1: that we we're gonna have Christmas Day off, but we
Speaker 1: are both working Christmas Eve and it's a short week
Speaker 1: because we play on Saturday. It kind of works out
Speaker 1: because Friday, which is Christmas, is like a normal Sturday,
Speaker 1: which we can usually get off of. Yeah, yep, Saturday
Speaker 1: of a road game. Because the team's traveling, what are
Speaker 1: we gonna do? Teams not leaving until late on Christmas Day,
Speaker 1: which is nice. They're they're they're leaving almost like six o'clock. Really,
Speaker 1: I think that would be a with sand during his
Speaker 1: radio show, is that, well that won't be the first
Speaker 1: time they've left that late this year. Well just not
Speaker 1: on purpose, you to say that because they had major
Speaker 1: delay is going to Carolina. But um he made he
Speaker 1: he said that, you know, some people like Christmas Eve
Speaker 1: and then others like Christmas Day, and so they're gonna
Speaker 1: have a short Christmas Eve. And Christmas Day and then
Speaker 1: play out Christmas night. Yeah, I'm sure every team makes adjustments. Well,
Speaker 1: if you're the uh yeah, you're you're leaving Christmas Eve
Speaker 1: and you're playing Christmas Day, which one's on the road
Speaker 1: there is? Uhum? I believe it's the Saints on the road. Okay,
Speaker 1: I believe they're playing in Minnesota. Well, too bad for
Speaker 1: those guys. Sorry. Yeah, well, if it's it's them and
Speaker 1: not us, so um, I'll think of them on Christmas
Speaker 1: Day as I'm watching them. All right, Jeff, I think
Speaker 1: we're done here. That's it. Those are all the questions.
Speaker 1: It's just that well that one was like three and one,
Speaker 1: so I just figured do that one. By the way,
Speaker 1: if you want to send his questions and you made
Speaker 1: it this far, just know that it's email it to
Speaker 1: Salty Dogs at Buccaneers dot NFL dot com. It's the
Speaker 1: best way. That is. We'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 1: We would. We really enjoyed the part of reading questions,
Speaker 1: you know what it is. I do enjoy that and
Speaker 1: I like them. Like you said, I like to go
Speaker 1: in blind because I have to, Bob, I do. I am. Well.
Speaker 1: The other the other option is you got to sit
Speaker 1: down and do some research. I know you don't want
Speaker 1: to do, like I got time for that job. Yeah, listen,
Speaker 1: I hooked up all the wires, so that's right. That's
Speaker 1: your job. That is it. And since you and your
Speaker 1: job is and since you did, thanks for listening.