1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Iheartradios live coverage. I've not twenty twenty five Steelers training camp. 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: He's presented by FedEx where now meets Next and also 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: brought to you by bud Light, Independence Health System, by 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania One Call System, by Live Casino, Calciente Pizza and 5 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Draft House by Tom's Appliances, South Hills Auto, Laurel Highlands 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Visitors Bureau, we Max, Select Realty, the Pittsburgh Steelers Pro Shop, 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: and by us. 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Steel Practice still ongoing in front of us here, Matt. 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: It's a long one here for the Steelers. It is 10 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: makes sense. Non pads, so not as physical, and you 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: know you are in the grinded out stage of camp. 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: There's no more warming up to it. There's no more 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: acclamation period, and it's not you know, ninety five degrees 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: like some of these other days have been out here. 15 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: Looks like we've got some some red zone team period 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: going on to our left here. Exactly as Will Howard 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: is in the game for the Steelers, he will hand 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: it off to Trey Sermon, who is just met by 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: a wall of humanity Logan Lee in there causing some 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: disruptions on that one. Ya Black as well too. 21 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: These deep guys in general today getting a lot of 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: good quality work. You know, I'm sure that there'll be 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: dudes that we haven't really paid attention to or highlighted 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 3: because we're not watching the All twenty two. But man, 25 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: he gave us two hours of high quality work. You know, 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: the backup linebacker, the backup guard that isn't getting a 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: lot of talk. I think these position coaches are gonna 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: get a lot out of this. And been paying an 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: extra attention to Roderick Jones today, by all accounts, had 30 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: a very rough day at Friday night lights and one 31 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: on ones and he is, to his credit, battling a groin, 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: but he's in great spirits and he's been dancing around. 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: You mentioned him in the end zone. He's had joking 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: with one of the trainers here before and running laps 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: extra and just watching his body language. It's very positive, 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: it's very upbeat. In one of the Steel tunes, he 37 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: was an Energy edition guy today, Yeah yeah, yeah. 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: Adders, subtractors, multipliers and hiders. 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: He was. 40 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,279 Speaker 2: He was an addition to the energy. 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: Yep and laughing and you know, not like he's disengaged, 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: but he's super engaged and really hang with his guys, 43 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: and maybe he's feeling better. 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope that's a good sign. Maybe he's you know, 45 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: like you said, he's feeling good, feeling better about to 46 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: settle in and uh and get going here. 47 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 3: As we as him. Man, no doubt, critical, no. 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: Doubt, and pretty cool here. So this just came across 49 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: the timeline today obviously the NFL Hall of Fame and 50 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: shrime at ceremony out in camp right going in was 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: Jared Allen, of course, very successful defensive end. Yeah, pass rusher. 52 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: I think he's top, if not top ten, top fifteen 53 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: in sacks and NFL history. And of course his defensive 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: line coach was Carl Dunbar for a large chunk of 55 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: his career. Carl Dunbar was there at the ceremony today 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: and Jared Allen gave him a big shout out during 57 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: his speech and said about Carl Dunbar, you got me 58 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 2: to where I'm at. While he's talking about Carl Dunbar, 59 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: so pretty cool. 60 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: Well, he's doing a well a job with the Steelers 61 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 3: d line and now he's got some young multible dudes 62 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 3: to add to that mix, and that is very cool. 63 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: And I mentioned this to you off the air that 64 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: I thought it really resonated with every player, but especially 65 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 3: the O line room back in the day, and I 66 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: would always make sure I brought it up on the air. 67 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: When coach Munchak was the O line coach, that'd be 68 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: a day or two every camp like where's munch you know, 69 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, he he's a Hall of Famer. He 70 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: had to go to go to Campton and put the 71 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: jacket on and hang with this. Then that Fraturn You're like, 72 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: huh yeah, pretty good coach too. But yeah, he was 73 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: also like the best guard in the league. 74 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: It's very rare that you get the combination of both 75 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: of those things. 76 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: Right, I mean because a lot of those guys don't 77 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: want to. I was great at what I did. I 78 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: made a ton of money. I'm not going to do 79 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: the grind of coaching, or maybe some of dudes just 80 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: came supernatural to that. 81 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: You know, right, just because you can do doesn't mean 82 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: you could teach right right, And just because you could 83 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: teach doesn't mean. 84 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: Ted Williams was a manager at one point. Can't you 85 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: read the seams on this? 86 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: No, Ted, like, you know, who has one of the worst. 87 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: And again there's like you gotta meet the minimum criteria 88 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: for games, coach and all that stuff, right, But you 89 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: know who has one of the worst winning percentages as 90 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: a head coach in NHL history, No clue, Wayne Gretzky. 91 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: He's the best hockey player everey. I can't teach you 92 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: how to do this. 93 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: You got that or you don't. Nobody else does. 94 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 2: The best player ever, maybe the worst coach ever. 95 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of examples. 96 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: I think so. 97 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: But I'm going to dip my toe in the coaching 98 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: water and be like, I'm not nearly as good as 99 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: this as I playing. 100 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: I just do how to play. I can't teach these 101 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: great about great at both, and I think I think 102 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: that is pretty pretty rare that you have Hall of 103 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: fame player, hall of fame type coach as well as 104 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: that aclusion of practice. See everybody start to come together here. 105 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: It does sure look like a good work today for 106 00:04:59,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: the game. Yeah. 107 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: Minutes on the on the grass, Yeah right. 108 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: Two hours and ten minutes, two hours and fifteen minutes. 109 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: I thought we saw a lot of different. 110 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: Guys pop Yeah, depth, guys making the case for themselves. Yep. 111 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: Good to see. Roger can say, imlu back there as 112 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: we highlighted some more Roman Wilson today, which was encouraging. 113 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he seems to be making more and more plays 114 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: I thought. 115 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: I thought Pat Shine, James Pierre as well had a 116 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 2: very good. 117 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: Practice, but Washington made some plays. Yeah, some of the 118 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: depth though Linemen I was kind of concentrating on moved 119 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: around pretty well. You know, yep, we'll see. 120 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: The officials are heading off the field, So I would 121 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 2: imagine that will do it if they've done their press 122 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: conference already here, I would think so. 123 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: I think so because I I ate lunch with some 124 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 3: of the media guys and they were talking about talking 125 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 3: to the referees. Yeah, like what the refs have to say, 126 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 3: and yeah, I kind of caught that as I was leaving. 127 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: But I think that's done. 128 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: I don't know what they're doing what they I know 129 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: what they were going to sit down with the media 130 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: at some point and help explain some role changes and 131 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: things like that. 132 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: I expect that all the Pittsburgh outlets you'll see some 133 00:05:58,520 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: media based articles come. 134 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe there'll be something in there that that we 135 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: can chew on or discuss one of these days. But 136 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: the Steelers the little breakdown and that will do it 137 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: for practice, Matt as they will start to exit the field, 138 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: hit the jugs, sign autographs, work on their craft, all 139 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: those different things that I have a feeling it will be, 140 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: or at least I hope it is, because there's a 141 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: ton of people here today. I got a feeling that 142 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: will be the case tomorrow as well too, with another 143 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: weekend practice, and there's not in fact that tomorrow might 144 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 2: be the last. If I'm remembering correctly, Tomorrow might be 145 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: the last weekend practice of training camp because next weekend 146 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: you're gonna be in Jacksonville the following week camp wraps. 147 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, tomorrow, Yeah, tomorrow the final weekend practice. It'll 148 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: be a padded practice tomorrow, at least if they are 149 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: you know, following the the format script, whatever you want 150 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: to call it to this point. The day off coming 151 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: up today. 152 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: I'm wouldn't be shocked if tomorrow is the most physical 153 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: practice of all camp. 154 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: I think, and it'll be right up there with Friday 155 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: Night Lights as one of the if not the most 156 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: physical practices we will be. 157 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: Looking watching all these years. I think that's probably sets 158 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: up really well to be a banging practice. 159 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't wait for that. Tomorrow. But that 160 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: is practiced today in the books. And with that, Matt, 161 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: we'll continue to if we see anything fun or noteworthy 162 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 2: going on in the field. 163 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: Like, look at all these kids coming down. I was 164 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: gonna say, it's like a parade of young young pop. 165 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: That's awesome. I wonder if they're like a youth football organization. 166 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: They're all together, that's for sure. 167 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 2: A lot of TJ want jersey, a lot of TJ. 168 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, And look at all the nineties 169 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: down there amongst these, I mean every other jersey that 170 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: they're wearing is a number ninety. There's a Paula Malu 171 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: in there, there's a cant. 172 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: In the Troy Yeah it Smeller. 173 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: And seventy eight watch jerseys amongst amongst the young kids. 174 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: That's that's pretty awesome. We gotta love it all right, Matt, 175 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: let's talk about some of these sack numbers. 176 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're pretty startup for me. 177 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: And to paint the picture. And I know a lot 178 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: of you have heard this because we have so many 179 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: diehard listeners here on Steeler Nation Radio. You and Dale 180 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: have built up an amazing following on this show, so 181 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: I know a lot of people have heard us discussing this, 182 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: but quickly for those who haven't sat conversation, how how 183 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: it relates to the ecosystem of the Steelers need more sacks, 184 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: and we've broken down how what they're going to do 185 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: on the back end. More manda Man coverage should allow 186 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: them to play a little more chess up front and 187 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: hopefully get back to some Blitzberg things. 188 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: Added more d Lineman, I mean added more d Lineman. 189 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: It's like three guys that weren't here yet last year 190 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: will probably make theme, if not more exactly right. 191 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: We've also highlighted how Matt is, for a lot of 192 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: rightful reasons, optimistic that Aaron Rodgers is going to take 193 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: less sacks than Russell Wilson and Justin Fields did last 194 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: yst year. Yes, yes, we've discussed it's very very sack differential. 195 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: How it's right behind turnover differential is one of the 196 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: biggest indicators for who's going for wins and losses. So 197 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: Matt talk to us at the stage here about how 198 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: sacks affect drives for an offense. This this is these 199 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: numbers that you on Earth. 200 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so we started this conversation, well, frankly, I 201 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: started this conversation pretty much the day the season ended 202 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: was they're taking too many sacks. But more bothersome is 203 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: they're not creating enough despite being what I think is 204 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: the best pass rushing team in the league and in 205 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: pressures and batted passes and force fumbles, but the sack 206 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: numbers just aren't there. And hey, I'm gonna sound like 207 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: a spoiled Steeler fan too, but it's kind of their 208 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: god given right to lead the league in sacks or 209 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: be at the top of the league, and they went 210 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: an uncanny number of years where that's been true. Time 211 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: to get back to it. And I think you mentioned 212 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: this even if they had like five or six more 213 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: that have been amongst the leaders, which doesn't seem like much, 214 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: and it isn't, so it's very attainable. I'm not asking 215 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: them to get twenty more sacks this year. Get me 216 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 3: ten more, you know, something like that. And again I'm 217 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: not asking for huge goals. Get your sack numbers down, 218 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: which I think will directly be a quarterback driven situation, 219 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 3: and get your defensive sack numbers up, which I think 220 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: will have a lot to do with coverage. You would 221 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 3: think these things are well, you got a pass block better, 222 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: and you got to have better pass rushers. No, they 223 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: have those things, you know what I mean, And I 224 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: don't know the past blocking is not as good as 225 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: the pass rush, don't get me wrong. But quarterback has 226 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: a lot to do it. Coverage has a lot to 227 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: do it. These are team stats. Now I don't have 228 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: it in front of me, I send it to you. 229 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: But there are really harsh drive stats that I know 230 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: you're looking at of drives where and this is just 231 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: across the league. It's not news to you. Yours, specifically 232 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 3: points scored, like when you take a sack in the 233 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: drive against you know, a sackless drive. And obviously these 234 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: could be defensive or offensive stats. 235 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I want to pull these up for 236 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: you here. But the big thing that sticks out for 237 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: me is just by taking a sack on a possession, Yes, 238 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: you cut your points per drive by more than half 239 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: while lowering your odds of scoring a touchdown by nearly two. 240 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: Thirds just by a sack. I mean, it could be 241 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: a well play drive, but we took one sackle. 242 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 243 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: That's crazy because I mean, you could possibly get a 244 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 3: quarterback injured, you could possibly cause a fumble, you could 245 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: possibly just put them into It's a third down sack 246 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: and boom punt, you know, I mean, I think everyone realizes, 247 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 3: but I do think when you break down the numbers 248 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: per drive, you wouldn't think a sack would be that 249 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 3: massive in derailing an entire drive, eight or nine drives 250 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: a year a game. 251 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: And I think we hear a lot like sacks don't 252 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: mean as much as they used to because in the 253 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: NFL now, you know, a second and fourteen isn't as much, 254 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: isn't a big of a deal when you have Joe 255 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: Burrow and Jamar Chase, you know, like, but the numbers 256 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: don't back that up, and theory, I think that makes 257 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: a lot of sense, you know what I mean? Like 258 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: teams passing offenses are better and better every year than 259 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 2: they've been in the past. Quarterbacks get more talented wide 260 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: receiver pool of talent in the NFL is insanely deep 261 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: right now, Like a second along a third and long 262 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: didn't mean as much as it used to. Again, on 263 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: the surface, I do think there's a lot of I'm 264 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: in reason to that. 265 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: Right, the numbers stop Josh Allen on second and nine 266 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 3: or whatever, right. 267 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: Just by taking a sack on a possession, you also 268 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: have over fifty percent chance to punt the football away 269 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: on that possession. 270 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, you wouldn't think that it's that derailing, but 271 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 3: more than fifty percent of the drives where you took 272 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: a sack an entire league result in a punt. I mean, 273 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 3: you gotta get these numbers because if you really really 274 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 3: nerd out and you go through the entire chart, it's 275 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 3: just very harsh differences in every category. Sack versus a 276 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 3: in a series versus sacked not in a series for 277 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: an offense, and obviously the reciprocal's true for the defense. 278 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 3: And bring it back to the Steelers. They may apply 279 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: more than any team in the league of who's who's 280 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: got the best chance to improve their sack differential Steelers year, 281 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: they have to be the top of the list. 282 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: They have to be one hundred percent. Yeah, when you 283 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: consider that they were deadly average sixteenth out of thirty 284 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: two teams in sacks last year created and as you mentioned, 285 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: they're sacked differential was my it's nine is correct. 286 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: The minus six or minus nine, but it's not right 287 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 3: that was the only one that was bad of the 288 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: key category. 289 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: Yes, and so that's one of those things too. When 290 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: you're accelerating or excelling, part of me not accelerating. When 291 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 2: you're excelling in the other areas, you bring that up 292 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: to speed as well too. Right, then that's how you 293 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: start to, I think, really get cooking with fire, certainly. 294 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: I mean if they were deficient and explosive plays, which 295 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: they were positive in explosive plays, they weren't great, but 296 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: they were positive, they were plus six or plus nine 297 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: and that and not negative, I'd be like, moy, that's 298 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: gonna be harder to get back to where you want, 299 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: you know where with the sack stuff. It's right there 300 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: for you. Yeah. I mean again, you got great players. 301 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: You threw a first round pick on your D line 302 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: in the boot, you know, et cetera. It's great. 303 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: You could see a very feasible path where they can 304 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: get that moving in the right direction. 305 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, And it almost would shock me, and I'll 306 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 3: be critical if they don't. It's not even like, oh 307 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 3: that'd be nice. No, No, it should happen. Right, That's 308 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: what you're built to do. This is what that's how 309 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: the structure of this team is built. 310 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: It's not like we're asking the IOWA offense to suddenly 311 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: throw for forty touchdowns season. 312 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 3: Absolutely not, absolutely not. You're not asking, you know, a 313 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 3: running quarterback that doesn't pass well to sit back on. 314 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 2: His back the ball fifty times a game. 315 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: No, I'm not asking to play left handed. I'm asking 316 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: you to play to your strength, to your strengths, and 317 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: get the result. They are playing their strengths, but get 318 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: the results to your strengths even more because it'll pay 319 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: off in a big way. Wins losses, more successful drives, 320 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: more drive stops on the other side of it, and 321 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: the numbers bear these out year after year. And I 322 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: do think even more than ever sacks of derailed drives 323 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: more than five years ago, more than ten years ago. 324 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: And that's why these edge rushers are making so much. 325 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: I mean, the tjs of the world. 326 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: Yep, no doubt. And as you mentioned, the only position 327 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: group whose money has gone up with inflation of the salary. 328 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: Neck and neck with inflation of the cap is edg rushers. 329 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: John Smith getting some extensive. 330 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: Even though work, but that doesn't miss it. 331 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: Good to see doesn't miss it practice today. 332 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: Yep. 333 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: Saw Ramsey down there earlier, as he has done every. 334 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: Single day, as those two are immediate. 335 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: Those two are It's like they race down to the 336 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: jugs machine. 337 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: There's two judge machines and they're all say like they're 338 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: always first in. 339 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: Line, always always that. Everybody else gotta stand by and wait. 340 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: As practice is winding down, still a lot going on 341 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: on the field out there, but much quieter now, of 342 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: course than it was a few minutes ago. Uh, we're 343 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: gonna take another break here. We come back on the 344 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: other side. We'll do a little around the league. Our 345 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: our typical penultimate segment here of training camp, will go 346 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: around the league with some league news and keep you 347 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: posted on any final tees to cross and ies to 348 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: dot out here at Chuck Nolefield. 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I 366 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: expect the weather will be a little bit warmer in 367 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: Jacksonville than it was here today. Uh, perfect day for 368 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: people like us here. Today it was in the seventies 369 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: and sunny, so not too hot, but no rain or 370 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: weather elements or anything like that. Great day brought out 371 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 2: a ton of fans here, as we have shared multiple times, 372 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: and led to a energetic upbeat practice meant yeah. 373 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 3: One hundred percent and all the folks unlike a couple 374 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 3: of times, not to anyone's fault, but the folks that 375 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: came out in droves on the bleachers and on the 376 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: hill here all got a great practice with great weather 377 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 3: and enjoyable experience even watching now you know who's muddling 378 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: around on the field. There's a lot of autographs being 379 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: signed all around still and so no highly profitable day, 380 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: I would say, by fans, players, et cetera, even though 381 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: it was not the padded physical banger head practice, which 382 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: I think it's tomorrow, and a lot of the biggest names, 383 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: including Aaron Rodgers, who I'm sure everyody would love the scene. 384 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 3: We're not participating today, but that's fine. Again, you're gonna 385 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: have that, yeah. 386 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: Part, it's part of the part of the occupational hazard 387 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: of whatever random day you might be able to make 388 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: it out here to camp. 389 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 3: This is a marathon. This isn't a sprint, you know, 390 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: And they want to keep these guys as fresh as possible. 391 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: Two opening day and well passed. You know, the season 392 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: is upon us quite soon. 393 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, I mean these guys are entirely like 394 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: we remember the famous Ben Roethlisberger schedule out here for 395 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 2: his you know, last handful of years of his career. 396 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: He'd have a full practice one day, half practice the 397 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: next day, and then day off. 398 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was. 399 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: It didn't matter if it was Friday night lights and 400 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: that fell to be his day off, it was day off. Well, 401 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: when you when you got a plan, you got to 402 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: stick to it, even if it's, you know, not the 403 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 2: most ideal timing, unfortunately. 404 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: And there's a lot of sports science people contributing to this, 405 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 3: and this is this is common all over the thirty 406 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: two teams. Times are changed, and frankly, we're smarter about 407 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: it now. Yes, yes, we certainly are seasons longer. 408 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 2: You know, all those all those kids that you were 409 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: talking about down on the field getting getting treated to 410 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: some autographs. I see Logan Lee signing. I see Warren signing. 411 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: I can't tell if that's Zach Frasier down there on 412 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 2: the end or not, but one of the offensive linemen 413 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: down there. As as they're like, there's a ton of 414 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: people here today, as we've said, but a lot of kids. 415 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: And that makes a kid Saturday, you know what I mean. 416 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: Like during the week, kids are at I know it's 417 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: not school time yet, but kids are at daycare, summer 418 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: camps or church camp or whatever the case may be. 419 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: Parents are parents are working, but not here on not 420 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: here on this Saturday. 421 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 3: Baby. 422 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: The young pups are out here and and uh and 423 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: that's always like the guys like that, you know what 424 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: I mean, They to paint the picture for everybody. You know, 425 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: they come down the hill from practice, from the locker room, 426 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: and there's obviously always a huge crowd of people there 427 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: looking for pictures, looking for autographs, cheering on all that stuff. 428 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: What they do is they set up like a youth 429 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: football team at the bottom of the hill. It's a 430 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: different youth football team. You know. It might be it 431 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: might be Mount Libo one day, it might be Mars 432 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: one day, if you weren't fortunate enough to go to 433 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 2: one of those great institutions like myself or at Sorry, 434 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: but you know, those the only ones that get mentioned here. 435 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: And every time, without fail, the players come down the hill, 436 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 2: it's hot, it's sweaty. They're about to go practice and 437 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: be miserable for a. 438 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: Couple of hours their serious mode, you know. 439 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: But they see those thirty forty kids in their youth 440 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 2: football jerseys at the bottom of the hill, right, and 441 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: like they always light up and they high five of 442 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: them and and you know all these different like sometimes 443 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: they'll stop and pump them up, and you know what 444 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's cool. 445 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and nine percent of those kids will never go 446 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: on to do anything in the world of football. Yeah, 447 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 3: but they'll remember that their entire life. If it's a 448 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: backup lineman that they don't remember exactly right. 449 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 2: Still, a Pitts Park Steeler gave me a high five, 450 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 2: like that's the that's the coolest thing ever when you're 451 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: that age. Uh, Matt. Let's go around the league here 452 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: a little bit, not a ton. Yesterday was a busy 453 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: day around the league as we talk about Michael Parsons 454 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: and Terry mclaurin's trade demands, trade demand, more. 455 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 3: Rumblings in the last twenty four hours. 456 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: No, it's it's gone gone quiet on on on those fronts. 457 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: But the big news of the day Broncos defensive lineman 458 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: Zach Allen agreeing to terms on a four year, one 459 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: hundred and two million dollar extension that includes sixty nine 460 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 2: point five million guaranteed. Was a third round pick of 461 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: the Cardinals back in twenty nineteen, now with the Broncos, 462 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: and I think you said it well earlier when we 463 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: just kind of mentioned this briefly, but I think he 464 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: is he's not mentioned with the big name, no high 465 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: paid defensive lineman in the NFL, but he might be 466 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: like the next one in line that should. 467 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 3: Be Yeah, and again he went to a pretty bad 468 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: Cardinals team with a bad d line, didn't you know, 469 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 3: got a lot more attention what's up? 470 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: And played for a really bad college football team in 471 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: Boston College toot Paint, So it's not like he got 472 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: a ton of attention in college. 473 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 3: First pick in the draft, right, and these defensive tackles 474 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: that are just total freaks, but had a good career 475 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 3: at the Cardinals and got better and better and better 476 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: and better despite being kind of the focal point of 477 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 3: what people were blocking, but really took everything to the 478 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: next level with Denver. I think he signed a two 479 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: year deal with them originally he sounds right, and now 480 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 3: the extension. So he's played two years with the Broncos 481 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 3: and it's been a top ten defensive tackle both those years. 482 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 3: And guys like that I love, you know, like, no, 483 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 3: the normal fan wouldn't look at him and be like, oh, 484 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: that's one of the better defensive tackles in the league. 485 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: You know, he wouldn't be on the tip of your tongue. 486 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 3: But then he gets a contract like this and ends 487 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 3: up in two or three Pro Bowls in a row 488 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: and people start to realize, Man, this guy is a 489 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: really effective player, that's really hard to play against, that's 490 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: budding at the right time. Like, I know this isn't 491 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: He's not a topic of conversation right now. But the 492 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 3: Broncos have a guard, Quinn Minor, who is a second 493 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: round pick. Yep, small school. 494 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: We talked a lot about him during the comb. 495 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was fun to watch. I mean, he'd 496 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: work out in crazy manners, blah blah blah, small school. 497 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 3: But I think he's the best guard in the league now, 498 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: you really, yeah, I mean and second round pick Denver's 499 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: developed him extremely well. He had a lot of ability. 500 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 3: People would never stay off the top of their tongue, 501 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 3: Quinn Miners is the best guard in the league, you know. 502 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 3: But he's right there, and they extended him a month 503 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: or so ago or whatever. You know. 504 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 2: I think they're the Broncos are a little sneaky. They've 505 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: got might have had the best defense in the NFL 506 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: last year. I think both agree. 507 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 3: On that, and used the first round pick there and 508 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: it could be the best d again. 509 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: So this is like one of those like there's an 510 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: article on NFL dot com right now about like who 511 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: challenges the Chiefs thrown in the a f C, who 512 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 2: challenges the Eagles thrown in the NFC. The Steelers are 513 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 2: one of the teams that are that are listed to 514 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: could jump into the challenge in the AFS. Like they say, 515 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: we assume, we assume Buffalo and Baltimore, right, we we 516 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: assume the Detroit Lions was the one that they said 517 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 2: in the NFC, which who knows, We'll see if they 518 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 2: take a step background. But I also get it based 519 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: off of who they've been the past the past couple 520 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: of years. I think the Broncos are another one of 521 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: those candidates as well too. I as a team, who 522 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: could you know, by the time we get to Halloween 523 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: or Thanksgiving, everyone's talking about them as like a legit contender. 524 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: If bo Nix takes a step forward and their defense 525 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 2: is what we think it's gonna be. 526 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty easy to look 527 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: at Mahomes, Alan Lamar and those three teams absolutely as 528 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: the favorites. Rightfully so, they have superhuman quarterbacks, They've won 529 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 3: a ton of games collectively over the last five years. 530 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: They've consistently been contenders, you know, no doubt about that. Now, 531 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 3: who's number four, Who's in that next tier? I think 532 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 3: you look at Denver for sure, Houston. Houston's been certainly 533 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: showing signs of that, but they totally revamped their own line. 534 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: I absolutely think the Steelers are in that group. Denver 535 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: people might be like man, but bo Nicks is nothing 536 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: like Allen or Mahomes right now, I would definitely take 537 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: those guys over next, don't get me wrong. And I'm 538 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 3: sure some Steeler fans remember Week two in Denver was 539 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: like a rookie. Yeah, I mean he was not. In 540 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 3: the first month or five six games of the year, 541 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 3: he wasn't very good. You know. He was a rookie 542 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 3: that looked in over his head that they threw right 543 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 3: in the mix from get go, I mean opening day rookie, 544 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 3: and to his and Peyton's credit, he just got better 545 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: and better and better. And he's a much better athlete 546 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: than people realize. He's a perfect We talked about Drew 547 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: Brees yesterday. I mean, Breeze is the prototypical Peyton decision maker. 548 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 2: Like people didn't really talk about Drew Brees like he 549 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: was Peyton Manning, Tom Brady. 550 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Peyton got together, but. 551 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: I think there could but he still had a ton 552 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: of success, Like I could think that could be Bo Nicks. 553 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: He's not gonna get talked about like Mahomes or Josh Allen. Yeah, 554 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean he still couldn't win a super Bowl 555 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: and have a ton of success. 556 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 3: I mean even that draft class with six quarterbacks going, 557 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 3: I think into what the top fourteen picks or thirteen picks. 558 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 3: A lot of people myself included, thought man Nix is 559 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: getting over drafted. Yeah, but Peyton knows exactly what he's 560 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: looking for. He wants a quick process, are accurate. The 561 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 3: athleticism and stuff is all plus, and he knows what 562 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 3: he wants in his offense and that quarterback fits it 563 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 3: very very well. They also extended Court and Sutton a 564 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 3: day or two ago. Denver's doing stuff. Yeah, I mean, 565 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: don't just think they're gonna be eight to nine win 566 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 3: team and go away. They're hard to play against. 567 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: Clearcuts, second best team in that division. Or do you 568 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 2: think the Chargers could have something to say there. 569 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 3: I'm a huge Herbert guy, but I trust Denver top 570 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: to bottom more in the entire roster. Again, I don't 571 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: think that the defense isn't predictable as offense year to year. 572 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 3: Sure because because the quarterback touched also much so so important. Absolutely, 573 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 3: But I would be shocked if Denver, after adding really 574 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: three new starters to the best defense in the league 575 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 3: isn't still top five. And that just gives you a 576 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 3: pretty high floor. 577 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, I see here. So on ESPN 578 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: dot com, New York Giants best quarterback of camp so 579 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 2: far has been Russell Wilson, and that's not surprising to me. No, 580 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 2: he's a veteran, he knows what he's doing. He's a pro, 581 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: he's a super Bowl champion, he's got Hall of Fame 582 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: type credentials. 583 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: Yes, and he's an impressive human being. We were around 584 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: him a lot just one year ago. You know, he shines. 585 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 3: There's leadership stuff there, and here be a shock if 586 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 3: he wasn't. Honesty, I'm a Winston fan as well, and 587 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 3: dark apparently is that's where we're pretty good. 588 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: That's where I was gonna go with this. I think 589 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: we both health aside, right, but but but ideal health 590 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 2: scenario for the Giants, Russell Wilson is QB one to 591 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 2: start the season. 592 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. 593 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: Would you put an over under like on how long 594 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: that might be? 595 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: See, I think they're a really interesting team, and I 596 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna go well now. I think if 597 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: in their shoes, assuming Dart does some good things here, 598 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 3: maybe they turned Winston into a pick like sure, we 599 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: don't need I went dark to be the two Jamis 600 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 3: has won games in this league. One team might be 601 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 3: a quarterback injury away from you know, yeah, your quarterback 602 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 3: gets banged up in Week one or whatever, he might 603 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 3: be your first call. So the thing is, I think 604 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: the Giants are pretty vastly improved. I mean their defensive line. 605 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: Their defensive front is scary. 606 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: It might only be behind the Steeler and the rest 607 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: of the defense has talent and they're O line. Their 608 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: best O lineman missed the whole year. Andrew Thomas, he's 609 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: coming back. Neighbors is a star. Say what you wanted 610 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: by Russell Wilson. He's gonna be better than Vinnie Cutlet's 611 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: or you know the exactly. I mean, he's a professional quarterback. 612 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: They're gonna get better quarterback play. So I think they're 613 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 3: a better team. But boy, they play the worst schedule 614 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 3: in the league. 615 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: By by a landslide in terms of difficulty. 616 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: How it looks right now you know about the rest 617 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: they're going to have. The teams are. Division is tough 618 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: like it's it's a murder's row. If you pull up 619 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 3: a giant schedule, it's bad, bad, bad. So my hunch 620 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: is Wilson plays five six games. They're a better team 621 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: than they were last year. But they're one and five, right, 622 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 3: and coaches on the hot seat, and then you get 623 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: Dart in there and hopefully he survives. But the league's 624 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: so nasty this way. Then what if they end up 625 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: being a better team than last year with a worst record, 626 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: and they have a coaching change and the new coach 627 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 3: isn't married to Dart. 628 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: Happens all the time. 629 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: It happens all the time, and we don't this isn't 630 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: the guy we want to coach. We want to we're 631 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 3: picking second in the draft. We want to take Drew 632 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 3: Aller or whoever, you know what I mean. And then 633 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: things get off the rails, you know, real quick. 634 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: And then you end up trading Dart for a fourth 635 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: round pace a year later, less. 636 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: On your investment, or I mean, he'd have to blow 637 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: your doors off if you're picking in the top five 638 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 3: to not at least consider a quarterback, you know, and 639 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 3: playing its tough teams in the league. 640 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: Last one I had for you and was just nice 641 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: to see, as much as it might have would have 642 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: helped the Steelers if he wasn't one hundred justin fields 643 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: today full practice participant had a highlight that I saw 644 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: where he pulled the ball down and took off again. 645 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: As much as you could say, like from a Steelers standpoint, 646 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: it'd be nice if he was a little behind schedule 647 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: for week one. That's selfishly bigger picture, I'm happy. I'm 648 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: happy for him that that was nothing serious and that 649 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: and that he's gonna get the opportunity to get training 650 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: camp in and hopefully have a season where he can 651 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: you know, keep that that career trajectory going up here. 652 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm definitely rooting for him. Everyone that was 653 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: around him last year in the Steeler uniform respects them 654 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 3: like some hard workers. Smart blah blah blah, all that 655 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: great stuff. Good talking on him as a clear number one. 656 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 3: Hopefully they can find their quarterback of the future with 657 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: Fields and Uh that offensive staff comes over from Detroit, 658 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: which is a very quarterback friendly system are gonna run him, 659 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 3: I'm sure more than the Steelers. But yeah, I mean 660 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: I don't root for anyone to be injured, you know. 661 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: No doubt, absolutely not. And good to see somebody around. Yeah, 662 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: and again full back to full participant out there running 663 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: and scooting and doing all the justin fields things. And 664 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 2: we will we will see him sooner rather than later. 665 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder how much he plays in the preseason. 666 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: Tyrod Taylor, the backup doesn't need much, you know, But 667 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: you also don't want him getting better. No, no, absolutely not. 668 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: Let's get to our last break here, but come back 669 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: on the other side, we'll hear a little bit of 670 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: what Move Nice and Slay had to say. 671 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: We put off autographs going on. 672 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: There's still a lot of autographs. I I love it 673 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: as uh as these kids are. They're getting their money's 674 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: worth down there on the sideline, that's for sure. We'll 675 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: wrap things up on the other side here a little 676 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: bit from Sleigh and Move before we get out of here. 677 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: It's all part of our ongoing training camp coverage. West 678 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeuler Matt Williamson special edition of the Drive here on 679 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Net. 680 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: Work iHeartRadio's live coverage Jobbot twenty twenty five Steelers Training Camp. 681 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: He's presented by Fadex where Now meets Next and also 682 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: brought to you by bud Light, Independence Health System by 683 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania One Call System, by Live Casino, Caliente Pizza, and Draft. 684 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: House by Tom's Appliance. 685 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: It's South Hills Auto, Laurel, Highlands Visitors Bureau, Wemax Select Realty, 686 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers Pro Shop, and by Hus steel. 687 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: Practice. In the books, the field's about clear, final autographs 688 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: being taken. Couple players still kind of out there with 689 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: their kids and their family, but for the most part, 690 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: it is going quiet here on the campus of Saint 691 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: Vincent College. But two guys who are not quiet today 692 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: and aren't quiet really ever, both on the field and 693 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: when they speak, Pat Fryarmouth and Darius Slayh. A couple 694 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: of minutes of these two veterans of the Steelers offense 695 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: and the Steelers defense giving their thoughts on Friday night, lights, 696 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: last night, and just everything that's transpired to camp to 697 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 2: this point. Take a listen. 698 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's awesome. I Mean, this is by far the 699 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 4: biggest I've seen it since I've been here and it 700 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 4: was just awesome to see the fans and it can't 701 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 4: get to juiced up for the season, So I'm excited. 702 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: Do you talk about the biggest crowdy? 703 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 4: Oh, like just in general? Oh just like driving in, 704 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 4: everyone was packed out in the streets, you know. I 705 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 4: saw people tail get at the house over there and 706 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 4: jumping in, like sitting in the pool watching us. Like 707 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 4: it was cool and like everyone out here, it was 708 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 4: just an awesome experience. And you know, expect nothing less 709 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 4: from Steelers fans. I think, you know, everyone has a 710 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 4: lot of high expectations for us, and we do as well. 711 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 4: And I think we had a lot of big time 712 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 4: players in our team, and I think everyone's excited to 713 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 4: see how obviously with Aaron coming in and DK and 714 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 4: and Jalen and Johnny, we're just seeing how we're all 715 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 4: clicking together. And we got a lot of exciting things 716 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 4: on the team right now and a lot of a 717 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 4: lot of exciting times ahead. So we're looking forward to 718 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 4: that and I think the fans feel that as well. 719 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: Did seem like anything to you, doctor Crown? 720 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 4: He was he was asking me today like what to 721 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 4: expect and all that, and I was like, dude, it's 722 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: literally like going to play for like a state championship 723 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 4: out of high school. And you know, he was like, 724 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 4: all right, cool, and then he came and he was like, 725 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 4: this is awesome. So he loved it and it was 726 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 4: just great to be a part of that. I'm sure 727 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 4: he appreciated it, you know, being later in his career 728 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 4: just kind of experiencing that, and I think he's been 729 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 4: loving it so far. 730 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: Seem like there's an excellent shiel playing, like the guys 731 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: would extra should be ex something just to kind of 732 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: like show up. 733 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Obviously, you know, we practiced in 734 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 4: front of fans like every single day in camp, but 735 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 4: you know, here, it's like an extra juice. Once the 736 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 4: music turned on, everyone was dancing. 737 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 3: I was loving it. I was dancing. 738 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 4: It was it was great, It was it was awesome. 739 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 3: He confused the guys when after a minutes. 740 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, obviously we didn't execute how we wanted to, 741 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 4: but you know, we got to continue to build on that. 742 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 4: It was our first two minute all of camp, and 743 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 4: so you know, obviously we wish it ended differently, but 744 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 4: you know, we're working towards, you know, the end goal. 745 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 4: Of week one and being able to shoot and then 746 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 4: so there's gonna be some ups and downs and we'll 747 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 4: get corrected. So we've always been pretty good at two minutes. Yeah, 748 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 4: we're coming together for sure, you know. I think you 749 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 4: see a daily improvement and there's gonna be ups and 750 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 4: downs and all that that comes with it. And it's 751 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 4: been great. I mean, it's just been it's been cool 752 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 4: to learn from Aeron. I think everyone's appreciated it. It's 753 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 4: been a grind to get on the same page with everyone, 754 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 4: but you can see it starting to progress and starting 755 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 4: to get there, and that's the exciting part about camp. 756 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 4: We have what two more weeks, three more weeks of 757 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 4: in games then we're ready to go. And so I 758 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 4: think we're all getting getting there to the point where 759 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 4: you know, we're getting on the same page and its 760 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 4: and it's feeling fun. 761 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 5: My first time being at a high school, well no, 762 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 5: I've been. My last time inn it was in Detroit, 763 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 5: went to high school stadium before. But yeah, man, it's 764 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 5: to be way back, definitely, after being in the lead 765 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 5: for thirteen years, it's been a been a good fun man. 766 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 5: It was a good man. The crowd showed up pretty nice, man. 767 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 5: It was a nice fun my first experience with Joy 768 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 5: and I loved it. 769 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: Give me you excited? Non excuse me? 770 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 3: No you get. 771 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: What are you expected out here? After? You know? 772 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 773 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 774 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 3: I was. 775 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 5: You know, I didn't know what to expect. I just 776 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 5: know that they was talking about it big and heavy. 777 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 5: I was like, man, I'm looking forward to it. 778 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 2: I was excited. 779 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 5: I almost traded like a game day for me, you know, 780 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 5: just because it's my first appearance and I want to 781 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 5: make sure I show the you know, you know that 782 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 5: I'm supposed to belong here and until the fans getting 783 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 5: what they see. So I was making sure I treated like. 784 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 3: A game rep. 785 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 2: Does it kind of get you excited for the season 786 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: of Steel Nation in Personaire? 787 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm always ready for the season, man, because 788 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 5: it's always a great opportunity, and I'm blessing I'm fortunate 789 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 5: enough to play this game that I love to do, 790 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 5: so I'm always thankful just to be able to do it, 791 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 5: but I'm more thankful to be able to do it 792 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 5: in some great fans. 793 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: Did they feel like I'm in the drill? Is that 794 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 2: another step to showing how good you guys are? As 795 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 2: a defense, I mean. 796 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 5: As a part of the situation of football. 797 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 2: Man. 798 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 5: So we got continue to keep working it, man, and 799 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 5: keep doing it both sides of. 800 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 3: The ball, all of us. 801 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 5: We're going to be great at that situation, so cause 802 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 5: that's when you win and lose games at So we 803 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 5: got continue to keep working out. Our first time actually 804 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 5: drilling it. Uh, we did a great job. But you 805 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 5: know we got continued that all in the year. 806 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: Taylor play. 807 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 5: Oh great, man, We're a great We're a great trio. Honestly, man, 808 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 5: we're a great dudes. Man, great guys. We work hard, 809 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 5: we worked together, we help. We're here for each other. 810 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 5: Maybe we want nothing but the best for each other 811 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 5: no matter who's out there. All I know is one 812 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 5: thing we're gonna do all together is compete and try 813 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 5: to do our best to be one of the best 814 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 5: in the game. 815 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 2: Out there. Well, yeah, for sure the other guys. You know, 816 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm always juiced up. 817 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 5: When I'm getting put these clicks on, so uh to 818 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 5: see other guys get amped up and witness uh some 819 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 5: great players out here. 820 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 3: Man. 821 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 5: On a live action kind of light. It's kind of 822 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,959 Speaker 5: good man, with a great atmosphere with this better field 823 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 5: game like so just seeing the guys on the light, man, 824 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 5: it's a good feeling. We man definitely been in a 825 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 5: new atmosphere. 826 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 2: High energy last night, high energy today. You could feel 827 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: it from Pat Fryermuth. You could feel it from Sleigh 828 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 2: Slay don't call me Darius. 829 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got some too to man. 830 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 2: And that's my favorite when you when he when he 831 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 2: was on the drive with you with Dale, this is slick. 832 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, all right, let's go. Coming off a 833 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 3: super Bowl victory and an amazing career. I mean, I 834 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 3: urge people just even look at like his career stats 835 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: like PBUs and. 836 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: Forget because I mean he obviously was a part of 837 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 2: a very successful Eagles team that went two super Bowls 838 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 2: and one another. People forget how good he was in 839 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 2: Detroit before he. 840 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 3: Got the follow your number one one of the best. Yeah, 841 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 3: absolutely big place slag. And I will say not that 842 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 3: he started slow, but these last few days he's really 843 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 3: been shining here too. I mean, they got three big 844 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 3: time corners and Joey's missed a little time here with 845 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 3: the thumb. I think it is a thumb. But if 846 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,479 Speaker 3: that would be the case in the regular season, it'd 847 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 3: be okay, which is amazing. I mean, Porter to me 848 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 3: was almost like Pickings last year, like you. 849 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: Couldn't afford to lose that guy, right right, right, Matt. 850 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 2: We got like a minute or two left here, so 851 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 2: I apologize. We did get a handful of tweets, but 852 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: we did. Maybe we'll save some of them for tomorrow 853 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: or get back into some Twitter stuff tomorrow. But this 854 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: one was funny from scut I had to get too 855 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 2: real quick. He said. I keep hearing Rock Taylor his 856 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 2: name coming up. He seems to be having a solid camp. 857 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 2: You guys think if he shows out in preseason, I 858 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 2: wonder if there's a spot on the roster for him. Also, Wes, 859 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 2: are we going to see you sport a kilt in 860 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 2: Ireland in September? Oh no, listen, I'll do whatever the 861 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 2: Irish want me to do if that's what's going on there. 862 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 2: As long as there's Guinness involved on, somebody has to 863 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 2: a wide receiver. 864 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 3: I say, somebody asked about Rock Taylor every day, and 865 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 3: I get that there's traits there, and I'm not discrediting 866 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 3: the guy, but I guess I give him, excuse me, 867 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 3: I guess I give him the best chance of the 868 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 3: this is mean, but the no names, you know. 869 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: The undrafted agents. 870 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the guys aren't making big money or 871 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: of any pedigree or any of that kind of thing. 872 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 3: So I'm certainly interested. He's on the radar. 873 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 2: We're going to start to find out answers to those 874 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 2: questions a week from today in Jacksonville. Yeah, we do 875 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: finally get some in stadium action, but obviously plenty to 876 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 2: get rock Taylor. 877 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 3: Starts taking reps against Lake Slay. You know that they're excited. 878 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: About him, right absolutely, and that'll be something else. We 879 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 2: continue to keep an eye on tomorrow. We're anticipating another 880 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 2: big practice, big crowds, pads on tomorrow. Weather report looks good, 881 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 2: although as we've said, maybe I should not proceed knock 882 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 2: on wood because that can change very rapidly here in 883 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 2: the Laurel Highlands. But that will do it for today's 884 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 2: coverage as another day in the books here on the 885 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 2: campus of Saint Vincent College. We will be back same 886 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 2: time tomorrow, Matt and I at two o'clock to bring 887 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 2: you practice. Then, of course, our coverage here on your 888 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: twenty four to seven home when the Black and Gold 889 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: starts at ten am. Every single morning that the Steelers 890 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 2: have practice. Big thanks to Matt and to our producer 891 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: Justin back at the ranch for holding us down. Everybody 892 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 2: take care and we'll talk to you tomorrow. As always, 893 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 2: you know where to find us. It's Steelers Nation Radio 894 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.