1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Ron and Anien, this is a No. Seven G. There's 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: more computer network in this car than the rocket that 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: went to the moon, and that that wiper circuit is 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: probably more advanced than half the circuit song and half 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: the airplanes flying today. The Car Doctor, who uh pastor 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: you're probably the next person that nine wives trust the mode. 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and an Ian 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage doors are open, 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your call at eight 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: five five five six and now he running. Hey, it's 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: time to start your engines. America eight five five five 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: six zero zero the phone number car DO hotline. Give 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: us a shout at dight five five zero nine zero zero. 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: I am Ron and any in the car Doctor, and 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm here to help solve your problem whatever you've got 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: going on, fender defender and door to door. And I 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: should actually not just say America, I should say around 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: the world, because you know that's where the car Doctor 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: is now with the power of the Internet and podcasting 23 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: and everything else and uh, the streaming and all the 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: different ways to take this radio show. UM, we were 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: glad to be here for you. You know, you've got 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: a lot of choices. I really do mean that. You 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: know you've got a lot of choices and a lot 28 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: of things to do with your time. And yet here 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: you sit with me each and every week to to 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: listen to my ramblings about solving and repairing automobiles and what. 31 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: And Mike and I are thinking about going to see 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: a psychiatrist because of that, Well you probably should. You 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: know what they always say about a psychiatrist's office, though, 34 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: everybody should have a hot rod, because you never see 35 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: a hot rod parked outside of a shrinks office. They're 36 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: all parked out back. Well, so they're all parked somewhere 37 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: where they're broken down on the side of the road 38 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: on the way to UM one or the other. UM. 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: But this radio show, if you're new to it, is 40 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: just you know, listen. I didn't I didn't ask for 41 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: this radio show. Was just kind of thrust upon me 42 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: by the universe twenty seven some odd years ago. And 43 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: here I sit been repairing cars forty three years and um, 44 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, we just kind of take the the the 45 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: events in the shop and sort of display up here 46 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: on air and somehow it becomes a show, and somehow 47 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: it became a show, and somehow it became a hit. 48 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: I can't kind of figure it out myself. It's just 49 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: but you know, here we are two cars I want 50 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: to talk to you about, and um, just just interesting 51 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: things that, you know, observations in the shop this week. 52 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: F two fifty x L t Ford pickup truck with 53 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: a six point two leader gas motor, big thing, you know, 54 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 1: double door uh tow vehicle for a race car. UM. 55 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, the young man um uh 56 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: Quinn Trimmer Um, he's racing today down at Wall Stadium 57 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: and we actually sponsored the car where one of the 58 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: sponsors on the car running any of the card doctor 59 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: and um, his dad's truck broke and we had to 60 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: look at the air conditioning this week and it was 61 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: funny because the car had been in an accident. The 62 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: truck had been in an accident two years ago, fixed 63 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: by the local Ford dealer and it was a front 64 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: end collision. And you know we're looking around like is 65 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: it somehow related to that? And you know, is it 66 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: isn't it? Just what's going on? And the A C 67 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: system failed a vacuum test, recovered refrigerant what little it 68 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: had in there in the system, pulled, pulled refrigerant out. 69 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: Uh did a did a vacuum test where we we 70 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, pull vacuum on the system, meaning we take 71 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: it into a vacuum state less than atmosphere and look 72 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: to see there's an old vacuum. And it failed a 73 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: vacuum test miserably. It failed it rather quickly to as 74 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, so I knew it had a leak. 75 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: The question is where. Started to put a little refrigerent 76 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: input announces of refrigerent in just to see, you know, 77 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: where does the leak? Where does it come out? The 78 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: fasts with some die just to kind of sniff around 79 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: and look for the fluorescence, and didn't really see anything. 80 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: And then you know, out of the corner of my eye, 81 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: I noticed there was a moon crater on the front 82 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: of the condenser. A moon crater is what I call. 83 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: You know, you could see that the truck had been 84 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: traveling down probably the New Jersey Rnpike at some point 85 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: during seventy five with the race car trail around the 86 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: back and a rock must have come up and cratered 87 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: against the condenser, so that must be the leak. Look 88 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: at that. I get down there with the sniffer, don't 89 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: pick up anything, but I hear the hiss. How can 90 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: that be? I get up my mechanic stethoscope, and Danny 91 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: thought I was losing my mind because I'm using a 92 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: stethoscope now, a mechanic stethoscope, just to listen. I'm listening 93 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: for an a c leak, right and I'm kind of 94 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: probing around the top of the condenser and I don't 95 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: and then it's it's to the left, to the left, 96 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: to the left, and you know, sort of the way 97 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: the sun was coming in the window and the shadows, 98 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: I could actually see the gas of the condenser, the 99 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: refrigerant leaking out. Quick hit the recover button. I found 100 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: it about three inches from the point of impact where 101 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: the little rock came up and hit the condenser. There's 102 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: the leak in it. Now. I don't know what bro 103 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: it's the same row of tube. Maybe when the rock 104 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: hit the condenser, it it cracked it against the well. 105 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: Because it's it's it's close to the one side. I'll 106 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: find out this week. I'm gonna take it apart on Tuesday. 107 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes it's it's you're looking for the unexpected. 108 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: Sometimes in order repair, you're looking for that, what's going 109 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: to be different about this repair, because it's it just 110 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: seems like order repair is becoming They're like, it's like snowflakes, 111 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: there's no twol like everyone is a little bit different, 112 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: and you're using things you've learned in the past. And 113 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, here I am using a stethoscope of mechanics 114 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: stethoscope to listen for an A C league because the 115 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: sniffer wouldn't pick it up. Of course, I think most 116 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: of the A C sniffers are garbage anyway. I don't 117 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: think half of them are worth a hoot. But um uh, 118 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: you know, it's just you're you're you're always looking for 119 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 1: a different way about it. At GMC Sierra, the different 120 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: ways you can get in the trouble and the repair shop. 121 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: And it came in. The owner had purchased new wheels 122 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: out on eBay and they were gonna be his summer wheels, 123 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: very nice, you know, chrome clad wheels off Donali, and 124 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: the person he bought it from took his tire pressure 125 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 1: sensors off the wheels and kept them with his truck. 126 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: So Bill had purchased these wheels and now he doesn't 127 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: have he doesn't have sensors. So he needs sensors, and 128 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: he needs them. He needs them installed and then programmed 129 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: or coded to his vehicle. So we we we we 130 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of confusion on what censors to use. 131 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: We got that sorted out. We we get the sensors, 132 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: we put them in. And usually in the past, and 133 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: I learned something this week. Usually in the past, we would, 134 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, clone the center. You take the censor off 135 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: the wheel, the censor's bed or it's got a weak battery, 136 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: You make a copy of it. You burn it by 137 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: physical contact that goes in the tool, hit the button, 138 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: it burns it into memory, and put it in the 139 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: car and you're done. I didn't do that with this 140 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: because we missed a step in that procedure. This is 141 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: the first time we didn't have sensors to burn. We 142 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: just figured we'd give it its own idea and away 143 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: we go. Boy where we surprised. We had four sensors 144 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: in the in the vehicle, on the on the tires, 145 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: and walk up with the tool and the tool reports 146 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: no sensor found. Now, wait a minute, how can that be? 147 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: The sensor has to have something in it, because when 148 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: we program or clone the sensor with an existing sensor, 149 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: it always says a racing flash. So here's that word. 150 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: I assumed that there was information in that sensor. It 151 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: turns out there's not. It's an empty sensor. It's it's 152 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: a dummy. It's completely empty. I could say it's like 153 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: somebody on other side of the control panel, but I 154 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: won't say that because I don't pick on Tom today. So, um, 155 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: Tom once again votes. So what do you do? You 156 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: gotta take the four, you gotta take the tires apart, 157 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: and now you've got a manually pro graham them back 158 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: in the tool. It seems like an awful waste of time. 159 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: We're on the website a smart sensor X thirty one 160 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: smart sensor and they have a software update that um 161 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 1: when they also have a new tool that will allow 162 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: you to wirelessly program the sensors. New technology. Right. I 163 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: called up my guy at bye Wise by Wise Auto 164 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: Parts here in New Jersey. They run a straight up operation. Boy, 165 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, they are the best. Should have found 166 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: wish I had found them thirty years ago. Um but 167 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, just write his rein and um uh, jees, 168 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, I can't think of his name, but he 169 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: showed Todd. Todd came out and saw me and um uh, 170 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: using the new tool from the folks at at at 171 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: X thirty one or smart sensor, he was able to 172 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: now watch this, watch the technology here. He was able 173 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: to log into the car. And I read about this, 174 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: that it was gonna happen, and I was glad to 175 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: see it work. He logged into the car, pulled the 176 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: entire press your sensor values out of the module where 177 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: they're stored, put them in the tool, then took them 178 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: from the tool and wirelessly transmitted them to each sensor 179 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: in each corner left front, right, front, right rear, left rear, 180 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: and the car was fixed. Look at the technology that's 181 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: available to the repair shops today. That's crazy, right, that 182 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: now we can wirelessly code tire pressure sensors. We don't 183 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: even need to have direct contact. And the point becomes, 184 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: and the bottom line becomes, that auto repair is something 185 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: different every day. I used to think, and I was 186 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: kind of disappointed that auto repair was getting too difficult. 187 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: You know, I longed for the days in eight where 188 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: every GM car took a CP one seventy six choke 189 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: pull off because the primary choke pull off went bad 190 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: in October. I mean I could count it like like 191 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: the sun came up right October three, first coal day, 192 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: everybody went out, hit the gas pedal. Right, how many 193 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: of you hit the gas pedal, set the choke? How 194 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: many remember what a choke is? And you know, you 195 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: started up and it would cough and and and miss 196 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: and stumble and shut off and you couldn't keep the 197 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: car running. And it was a phone call. And we 198 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean we'd sell fifty fifty a week sometimes it 199 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: was crazy. We don't we don't see fifty a week 200 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: of anything anymore. Okay, it's we see fifty different jobs, 201 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: and they're all different, and they're all just you know, 202 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: opposite ends of the scale of of technology, and it's 203 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: just you know, it's gonna be a challenge going forward 204 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: to keep up with all this. Um, I'm ready for it. 205 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: I know a lot of other guys are too. And 206 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: they're always going to school and they're always training and 207 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: they're always working hard to be ready for it. As 208 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: a consumer, you've got to be ready for it too. 209 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: You've got to talk to your mechanic more. You've got 210 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: to be aware of the diversity of what they're seeing 211 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. Is all about and by all 212 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: means when you go out to buy that new car, 213 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: talk to them like a couple of people did to 214 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: me this week. You know, can you work on this? 215 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: Can you work on that? And it's not just a 216 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: matter of can you work on that? Do you have 217 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: the tools and the technology for that? All right, because 218 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: that's going to be the defining pivotal moment in repair 219 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: life in the next ten years, fifteen years. If you 220 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: have to market, if you have to market continues continues um. 221 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: You know, do we have the tools for this? And 222 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: can we get information that's gonna be KA five five 223 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. Run any of the car doctor 224 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: coming back to open the garage doors up right after this. 225 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: Don't go away when you get keep Ron's number hand 226 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: eight five five five zero zero zero for when you 227 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: really need advice on your car. Here's Rob. Hey, let's 228 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: gonna talk to Charlie and Springfield, Illinois. Charlie, Welcome to 229 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help Ron? I 230 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: have used eleven Ford Edge Limited. I bought it a 231 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: few months ago from my second car. I really loved 232 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: the car. It has a problem and it happens randomly 233 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: and uh kind of often. Now the horn will start honking, 234 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: It'll honk for ten times and then quit. And uh. 235 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: I did some research on this problem, and it appears 236 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: this is a common problem with Ford Edges because I 237 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: read some blogs where a lot of owners posted the 238 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: same problem and they've taken it to Ford dealers and 239 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: uh it is they can't fix it. And as a 240 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: matter of fact, some of the blogs say they seem 241 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: to ignore the problem, like it isn't there, they don't 242 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: want to deal with it. So and I don't know 243 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: if you've ever ran a cross anything like that or not. 244 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: Similar things, Yeah, similar things. Um. Let me let me 245 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: ask you this, Charlie, do um uh do you leave 246 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: the car locked at night? Yes? I do so it's 247 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: out in front of the house locked up, yes, in 248 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: my driveway. Right. Do you have a garage? No? I don't. Um, 249 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: you know I would love to see. Well, let me 250 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: ask another question. There's no door ajar warning light on 251 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: the dashboard, is there? No? There isn't. Okay, Um, I 252 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: can't say that if once amort though, I'll get in 253 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: the car and that that that light will come on. 254 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: But there's nothing, Ajar. I hit the okay thing on 255 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: the sturring, Well it goes away, but there's no door, ajar. 256 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: But you've got all the doors closed? All right? So 257 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: does this car and I've got I'm thinking it does 258 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: this car has to have the factory alarm, meaning that 259 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: if the if the doors were closed and someone were 260 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: to open it, the horn would go off as a 261 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: mean of warning. That's what I understand. Yes, yeah, So 262 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'd like to see is if you 263 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: left the car and you can't do it because you 264 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: don't have a garage, I'd love to see if you 265 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: left the car closed, um, unlocked? Does the horns still 266 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: go off? Uh? No, every time it's one off. The 267 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: car has been locked, right, And I think what you're 268 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: going to find because what I'm getting to is I 269 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: think you've got a bad door jar switch. Well that 270 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: could be maybe. All right, there's a bulletin. There's a 271 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: bulletin from Ford. Do you have a do you have 272 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: a pencil, Charlie? All right, um, take a look at 273 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: bulletin fourteen dash one four and it talks about the 274 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: door a jar light. Now they say it as the 275 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: door jar light remaining illuminated. But in your case, that's 276 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: not really the best description. But if you read the 277 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: bulletin and get into it, what they're talking about is 278 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: that certain year Edges, Explorers, Flexes, and some of the 279 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: Lincolns of the similar body styles, the m k x 280 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: is and the m k t s have problems with 281 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: the door jar switches, and they will randomly tell the BCM, 282 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: the body computer, hey, the doors open if if it 283 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: sees the door, if it sees you know, quote unquote 284 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: the door open, even when it's not. If it sees 285 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: that switch change state, it will think someone's breaking into 286 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: the car, and then cycle the horn on an alarm basis. 287 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: And I bet it's I bet it's consistent. I bet 288 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: this is a consistent number of beeps every time. Every 289 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: time it's ten beats, right, yeah, this is this is 290 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: computer driven. You know. I have seen I have seen 291 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: some cases where the horn pad itself, the piece you push. 292 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: I've seen that on cars where that has an intermittent, 293 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: short or poor contact, or it's twisted or warped or 294 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: weathered or somehow beat up. But that's usually a case 295 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: where somebody tells me the horn goes off and it's 296 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: just it's it's one constant beep all the time until beppep. Right, 297 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: this this car thinks it's having a theft event, all right, 298 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: So a if we went in, if we went in 299 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: using a good scan tool and looked at the body computer, 300 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: is there a theft event? Pit? Sometimes there is. Sometimes 301 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: it will say theft event yes or no. If it 302 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: says yes, that means it saw a theft event when 303 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: there wasn't one, because obviously nobody was stealing the car. 304 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: All right, Are there any fault codes? Number two? Are 305 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: there any fault codes for intermittent door a jar circuit codes? 306 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: You know a B C M. A body computer can 307 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: have a fault in any one of its circuits. A 308 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: bad door jar switch. It'll never turn on a engine light. 309 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: They will never turn on a dash warning light on 310 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: that generation vehicle. Everybody waits. Everybody's you know, it's it's good. 311 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: Everybody's looking for codes. They're they're looking at check engine lights, 312 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: going hey, we're looking for a code. Nobody stops to 313 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: think that every other module on the car has the 314 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: ability to set codes, but it won't turn on any 315 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: dash lights in a lot of cases, in the case 316 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: of a door jar light, that's that's the absolute truth. 317 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: So do we have any fault codes? Number three? Get 318 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: a look at that bulletin, and that bulletin talks about 319 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: for it has some special tooling that you can tie 320 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: into the system. And they're cycling the latch enough times 321 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: on a repeated basis, they're wiping the switch clean. I 322 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: you know, if it were me, I'd probably put a 323 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: switch in it. But you've got to figure out which 324 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: door first. Even that message when it comes up, Now 325 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: that menie will has come up and it says left 326 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: door jar. Okay, so you know what, maybe we want 327 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: to take a hard look at that left door switch 328 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: and see if we can get that. You know, if 329 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: we cycle it enough times, can we fool it and 330 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: get it to think that it's open when it's really 331 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: closed and vice versa, maybe we'll see interior lights on 332 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: or the lights won't come on. Things like that. Read 333 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: that bulletin. But I'll bet you this is a bad 334 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: door jor switch making the horn honk. And that's where 335 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: you gotta go. Charlie, let me know what happens. I 336 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: appreciate the call, and I appreciate you being there. Good luck, 337 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: keep us posted. I'm on an aat of the car 338 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: doctor put back right after this. He drives that way. 339 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: But when it comes to fixing cars, Ron has card 340 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: advice done right eight five five five zero nine nine 341 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: zero zero. Here's Ron, Hey, welcome back. Let's get on 342 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: over and talk to Bill and I with thirty eight Chevy. 343 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: Thirty eight Chevy, I think I remember those. How are 344 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: you Bill? Hey? Great? Yes, sir, how can I help? Okay, 345 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: here's the deal. It's got a two thirty five six 346 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: Chevallet six cylinder in it with Corvette headers and it's 347 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: stock with three speed transmission. On the floor. It fell 348 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: on its face and I could not figure out what 349 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: was wrong. We changed electrical wires, we changed points condenser. 350 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: The whole works at a one barrel carburetor Rochester carburetor, 351 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: one barrel on the intake manifold, and it would always 352 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: start up and run perfect until you accelerated it. And 353 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: I thought it was in electrical. The whole problem was 354 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: the accelerator pump in the carburetor was pumping garbage gas 355 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: and it fell on its face it. I took that 356 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: carburetor off, turned it upside down, rented it out, put 357 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: it back on, and it's ran perfect every since. Now, 358 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: let me let me ask you. Let me ask you 359 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: this bill for everyone else out there was bringing their 360 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: hot rod out of retirement with the summer. Now, um, 361 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: did it? Did it run good when you put it away? 362 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: Or is this a year round vehicle? It's a year 363 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: round vehicle. I drive it almost monthly and it starts. 364 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: I've I've taken to car shows. I just scooped the loops. 365 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: We got several towns here in Iowa that they call 366 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: it the scoop the loop on Saturday nights. I'm not 367 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: afraid to drive it from Des Moines to Omaha. I 368 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: stay off of Interstate eighties system because when the semi 369 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: passes you at seventy mile an hour and you're doing fifty, 370 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: it has a tendency to suck you off the road. Well, yeah, 371 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: it's got to look pretty cool to a thirty Chevy one. 372 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: That's got to be pretty neat. You know, um it 373 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: just you know I have. I have had it since 374 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two. It was my first love. I've had 375 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: it in California on Long Beach in l A. I've 376 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: had it down in Biloxi, Mississippi, and New Orleans and 377 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: I've still got it today. Can you imagine you know 378 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: that that you know in that was the car? Right you? 379 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: You drive that cross country? Can imagine on cross country 380 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: in that? Um? You know, yes, that's that's But then again, 381 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: as you say, the highway system wasn't there, everybody did, 382 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: um So we had a We had an elder Brock 383 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: double intake manifold on it when I drove it to 384 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: California with two Rochester carburetors on her, and I could 385 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: smoke tires in second gear. Bill. And if you've never 386 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: been around, if you've never been around a six cylinder 387 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: Chivrolet or whatever with Corvette headers on it, it's undescribable. 388 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: The noise of those duels will make Bill. Can I 389 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: ask you a personal yes, yeah, just out of curiosity? 390 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: How old are you? Uh? I will turn seventy five 391 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: last week? Bill? You're you're you might be you might 392 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: be America's oldest hot rotter. Um or oh no, oh, 393 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: no oh no. I've gone to a lot of scoop 394 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: the loops and there's some pretty old fellas out there 395 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: that that we socialized with. I listened to your program periodically. 396 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: I finally got the phone number here a minute ago, 397 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, I'm gonna see if I can get in. 398 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: We're my my thirty eight sherwallet has no computer system, 399 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: no couple. It doesn't even have a fuse panel in 400 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: it because I've never updated it. All I did when 401 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: I bought it. We changed it to twelve volt system, 402 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: never changed the wiring, just changed the bulbs because all 403 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: you're wiring for a six volt system is heavier than 404 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: a twelve volte system. You know, you're you're an example 405 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: of what made the auto industry in the country, you know, 406 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: so unique and interesting from the sixties on up, because 407 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: everybody was always tinkering with something and using their brain 408 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: power to make something better, quicker, better, faster, more efficient. 409 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: And they didn't do it by writing a check to 410 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: buy a car. You know, it's modified work with what 411 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: you got. Um, you know, very cool. We we we 412 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: compete in the stock class when we go to the 413 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: shows because it's got the original Well, I got fifteen 414 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: inch tires on that instead of a little skinny seventeen 415 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: or sixteen. We used different rams off of pickups back 416 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: in the sixties fifties, and I don't have fancy rams. 417 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: I got the stock she cub gap that goes on 418 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: the middle of the clips, on the middle of the rim, 419 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: and uh, I got all the grill, the original grill 420 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: in it. I put new glass in at two years 421 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: ago and that was the first time there was new 422 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: glass in it. When I was at off off of 423 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: Air Force Base in nineteen sixty six, I drove it 424 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: and had it san blasted out in the in the 425 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: construction site. Okay, we passed up the windows. I did 426 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: it late afternoon and I drove it sixty miles after 427 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: that and put it in the body shop. It looked 428 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: like a cours light aluminum beer can. And that saved 429 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: that body. That saved that body. Bill, isn't amazing how 430 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: much well, it's amazing. It's amazing how much fun you 431 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: can have with a vehicle, right and and look at 432 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: all the return and enjoyment it's giving you. Bill, I 433 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: want to thank you for calling in. I you know, 434 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: guys like you r what makes doing well. Everybody makes 435 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: doing the show so much fun. But here in the 436 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: story is just really makes my day. And makes me 437 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: realize just you know, um, how important cars are to 438 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 1: this country and the culture of what it is and 439 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: what it will continue to be for years to come. Build. 440 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: Good luck to you in your thirty eight and continue 441 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: driving and uh enjoy it a lot. Brother. Get out 442 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: there and I'll be right behind you. Just look over 443 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: your shoulder. Eight five zero zero running in the car. 444 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: Doctor coming back right after this? Welcome back. Why don't 445 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: they in the car? Doculet's get over to Jim in Delaware. Ranger. Jim, 446 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: what's going on with this little Ranger? How can we help? Well? 447 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: I got a ninety four Ranger thousand mile standard transmission 448 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: for a point out all right. Uh. The original problem was, 449 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: the original situation was, uh, I when I would let 450 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: the clutch out, it would when when it was cold, 451 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: it would grab down towards the bottom of the pedal. 452 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 1: After it got warm, they would start releasing up at 453 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: the top. So I had everything replace flywheel, pressure plate, 454 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: throwout bearing, slave cylinder, everything. I was about a month 455 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: ago and then about a week ago the clutz weren't 456 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: right to the floor nothing. So the mechanics said, well, 457 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: you watch your parts online. I need to put some 458 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: better parts in say, he redid the whole transmission again 459 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: at my cost, no problem, but he said it was 460 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: already to go. But he said he had like he 461 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: tried for like four hours to bleed the clutch. He 462 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: said it was okay, great, so I don't pick it up. 463 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: It does release right at the floor. Great. However, now 464 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 1: it won't go into first year and it won't go 465 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: into reverse because the clutch doesn't have enough stroke on 466 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: it because there isn't enough clutch pedal, because it's still 467 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: not played properly. So let me let me, let me, 468 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: let me back up and comment about a few things. Um, 469 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: and it's funny. We were talking about this at lunch 470 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: three days ago at the shop. We've come to the 471 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: conclusion that, you know, barring making this a standard statement, 472 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: but it seems like clutch parts in a lot of 473 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: vehicles today. It's just they're real picky and it's got 474 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: to be a real good quality, name brand component. And 475 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: if you can't get something of a name brand calip 476 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: or something that's got a real good following and real 477 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: good reviews and ratings, a lot of this stuff online, 478 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: depending upon where it's coming from, could be real cheap 479 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: junk from overseas and it just doesn't pay. That. Being said, 480 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: you know, a Ford clutch, a Jeep clutch, and so on, 481 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: it seems like the oe manufacturer, although they're buying it 482 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: from somebody too. And if you can find out who 483 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 1: they're buying it from, that's fine. But my point becomes 484 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: good quality parts. That's number one. Number two, you have 485 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: a bad clutch pedal, right, the pedal doesn't feel the 486 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: great it's it's probably just grabbing down low off the 487 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: floor and then the rest of it just feels like 488 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: real soft in its air. Is that a true statement? Yeah? Um, 489 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: he's got to bleed this. But you know, and this 490 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: is listen. I've got an eighty seven Ranger three oh 491 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: five speed manual. I've been down this road. I've lived 492 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: this nightmare all right. Um. I've put three clutches in 493 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: the Ranger, two clutches in this Ranger over the last 494 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: fifteen years, and it's just, you know, it's just it's 495 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: horrible to bleed. You can try the factory bleed procedure, 496 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: which to me is a joke. I think the engineer 497 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: that designed this system should be shot, hung and sent 498 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: to the Russian Front as we say on Hogan's Heroes, 499 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: if that's possible, but uh, you know, it's just it's 500 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: just it's just a lousy design. You got to get 501 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: the front of the vehicle two to three ft off 502 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: the ground, all right. So typically what we'll do is 503 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: we'll set the vehicle up on either a wheel hoist 504 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: or the lift itself, or we'll put floor Jackson jack 505 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: stands under the frame. You get the nose two to 506 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: three ft off the ground, all right, push the clutch 507 00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: slowly in and out half to travel, and until some 508 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: resistance is felt. Because if you look at the angle 509 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: of the of the master or the slave on this 510 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: it's it's there's a there's an angle to it. It's 511 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: it's like it's nose down if I remember right. And 512 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: and the problem is that there's if there's any air 513 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: at the bottom, there's no way to get it out there. 514 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: You know, the air it just doesn't rise. So you've 515 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: got to raise the nose to get the air to move, 516 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: all right. I've I've seen reports and I've had the experience. 517 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: It could take fifty to a hundred strokes of that 518 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: pedal before you get any kind of resistance to that 519 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: pedal to to so that you know you're purging the 520 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: air all right, and then you can go through and 521 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: bleed it all right, you know, open the bleeder and 522 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: go through manual bleed. Now, the third alternative, which you 523 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: know you can get, you can do the factory procedure 524 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: which is in the books. You can do that getting 525 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: it high off the ground. I've also done it where 526 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: I've left it three ft off the ground, get the 527 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: nose up high in the air, leave the bleeder open, 528 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: put a drip pan underneath it, and let it sit 529 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: there and let it burp air on its own, and 530 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: just let it gravity bleed and and and see how long, 531 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: if anything, if that changes anything. Fourth method, Fourth method. 532 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: And I know they're out there, I haven't. I haven't 533 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: seen them new in a while. But we used to 534 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: call them syringe bleeders, all right. A syringe bleeder was 535 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: a giant hypodermic with a rubber cone on the end. 536 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: We would fill it with break fluid. And you know, 537 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: you've gotta be like a doctor, right like Hawkeye on mash. 538 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: You gotta sit there and flick the bubbles out of it. 539 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: So you get all the bubbles out the end and 540 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: then you put the rubber adapter or the rubber cone 541 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: on the end of the bleeder with the bleeder open, 542 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: and push fluid through the slave up the line into 543 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: the master and then at the top of the reservoir. Alright, 544 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: the problem is the problem is if the air is 545 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: lower than where the line comes in, you won't catch it. 546 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: So you have to do the two three ft off 547 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: the ground for first and then do the syringe move 548 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: to get it to come out. This is I'm telling you. 549 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: You know, you look at this and you think, how 550 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: could they design a system that can't be bled. It's 551 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: it's the stupidest thing in the world. It's but they 552 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 1: do it, and they got away with it. And you know, now, 553 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: I guess I'll tell you what. It keeps me on 554 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 1: my toes. But yeah, it really sounds like as long 555 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: as he used a good quality clutch, which I'm gonna 556 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: guess that he did because he was smart enough to 557 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 1: know not to buy something online, then um, it sounds 558 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: like it needs to be bled. The giveaway is it 559 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: doesn't work in first and reverse and that tells me 560 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: that the clutch isn't being depressed far enough, all right, 561 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: and that's why it's it's let's start with bleeding at first. 562 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: Go through that routine. If you need more ronnict card 563 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: Doctor show dot com, or give me a call next 564 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: week one or the other. 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We want to send you out a 574 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: copy of that and good reading and good uh basic 575 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: mechanics and things like that. All right, sir, stay on 576 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: the line, Tom, I get your information. I'm running any 577 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. We're coming back right after this. Hey, wow, 578 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: look at that? Is it my turn? Okay? Thank you. 579 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: Mikey and I were at a sorts there. I love you, Mikey. Um, 580 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: who am I I'm running any of the car doctor. 581 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: That's right. Let's go to Bob A Long Island. We're 582 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: both so excited. Bob, how are you? Hey? Run, It's 583 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: Bob good sir, um what do you got? Well? About 584 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: a week week and a half ago, the boy comes 585 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: in and they got a check engine light. It's a 586 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: two eight charger three point five p and uh, let'n 587 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: pull the code and it's intermittent signal from the cam sensor. 588 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know what, what would Ron do? 589 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: Let's check the codes. So I go to freeze frame 590 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: and I say, who happened? Ams? I'm thinking, I'm thinking 591 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: it's mechanical. So I checked for voltage and reference on 592 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: both the cam and the crank sensor, and then I 593 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: decided to look for a crack in the pulse ring 594 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: on the back of the camp pulley. Something there with 595 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: a little light, and I'm turning the motor over, turning 596 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: the motor, and I realized that the the pulse ring 597 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: is just loose. It's wobbling on the back of the pulley. Okay, 598 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: order a pulley, Order a pulley. Take the cover off. 599 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: Sure as a long bault, isn't it? Boy? Ron? Could 600 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: you please explain that one to me? And in three 601 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: quarter inches the hardest part of the job was taking 602 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: the radiator out because of the campbell. And I can 603 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: actually tell you I I've run into this before. I 604 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: ran into this way back when. And I actually spoke 605 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: to somebody, a friend of a friend who was a 606 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: Chrysler engine He actually was let me let me get 607 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: his official title. He was Chrysler valve Train camp shaft Development. 608 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: He was a Chrysler cam shaft valve train and UH 609 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: cam shaft valve train engineer in charge of development. He 610 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: was the research guy. And the thought process was because 611 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: of the twist load, the torsional load that that camp 612 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: chaft places on the valve train, they needed to put 613 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: a longer bolt for better clamp load to hold the 614 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: sprocket to the camp so that it doesn't fall off 615 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: at high rpm. How's that for a cockromami story. I 616 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: had a lot of cams and I've never seen nothing 617 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 1: like that, me neither, But that was the answer I got. 618 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: And I was just like, Okay, I you know, personally, 619 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: I think somebody made the mistake and they had a 620 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: leftover and didn't know what else to do with it, 621 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: and they shoved that engine into a vehicle. We're taking 622 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: the radiator. That was the only way you could change 623 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: this rocket. But that was the answer I got. I 624 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: did ask that of the Christler engineer that day, and 625 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: be for all I know, he's still got his job, 626 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: and I still got mine, and I'll continue to do 627 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: mine because I'm running any in the car doctor, reminding 628 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: you good mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. See you ye