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Speaker 1: a very troubling side of the times. Here in New

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Speaker 1: how to prepare in the event of a nuclear attack.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. So there's been a nuclear attack.

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Speaker 1: big one has hit. Okay, So what do we do?

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Speaker 1: There are three important steps that I want you to remember.

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Speaker 1: Step one, get inside fast, you, your friends, your family,

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Speaker 1: Desuz's two Thousand Mules movie. Let me read to you

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