1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Happy Saturday. Coming up on the show, we're going to 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: mention the household of Elizabeth Van lu who ran a 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: spine network for the Union during the US Civil War 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: and she ran it from the Confederate capital of Richmond, Virginia. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: Previous hosts actually talked about Van Lou and her spy network, 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: and that is in Today's Saturday Classic, which is about 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: one of her spies, Mary Elizabeth Bowser. This episode was 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: by previous hosts of the show, Sarah and Deblina, and 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: it originally came out on July, So enjoy Welcome to 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of I 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Deblina 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Chalko Boarding and and we are taking another look in 13 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: this episode at what is apparently my new favorite topic, spies. 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: I sent you an article last week and you were 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: pretty thrilled about it. Yeah, I was. I'm sorry, Sarah, 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm afraid you think I might be obsessed with this 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: subject r spy. I wish I were a spy, but 18 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: really I'm not obsessed with this topic. I just think 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: it's really fascinating and there are so many different facets 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: to it that you can look at and we're going 21 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: to get off of it soon or at least move 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: on to something else civil war related. But we couldn't 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: do that without at least taking a look at this 24 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: last or one other facet I should say, of the 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: of Civil War espionage, which is African American spies. And 26 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: it appears as though many Black Americans took an active 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: role in Union espionage during the war, although, as we'll 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: see a little later on, in most cases there aren't 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: a lot of records around now to tell us exactly 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: what their individual accomplishments were. Yeah, and there are a 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: few reasons for that. It's due in part to racial prejudice, 32 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: but also because Union spy masters would often destroy any 33 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: record of their contributions after the war to protect the 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: African American spies. And then most didn't want their identities 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: to become known in the first place, even after the war, 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: because they feared repercussions if Confederate sympathizers ever found out 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: about it. They had taken a big risk spying in 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: the first place and didn't want to get caught after 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: the fact. Yeah, the penalty was death, so it would 40 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: be really bad if you were found out. But According 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: to the CIA Center for the Study of Intelligence, intelligence 42 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: on the Confederates provided by African Americans, which was known 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: as Black dispatches, was the quote most prolific and productive 44 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: category of intelligence obtained and acted on by Union forces 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: throughout the Civil War. So former slaves and free blacks 46 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: alike participated in this and Harriet Tubman is probably the 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: most well known name in this category of spies, although 48 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: she's probably better known for her work with the Underground Railroad. 49 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 1: That's how most people know her, I think, but existing 50 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: records and books written by other self proclaimed spies. In 51 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: other words, white spies give us information to substantiate about 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: eight to ten more include Udine. The person we're going 53 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: to talk about in this episode, Mary Elizabeth Bowser. We 54 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: don't know that much about Bowser, including whether that was 55 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: even her real name. Some people still question her very existence, 56 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: but she was eventually inducted into the U. S. Army 57 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: Intelligence Hall of Fame, so clearly some people believe in 58 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: her contributions. Yeah, you can't tell her story though, without 59 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: talking about someone whose existence is definitely known, that of 60 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: her Union spy master Elizabeth Van lou who started a 61 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: ring of spies in Richmond, and with the help of 62 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: Van lou story, we learned the generally accepted version of 63 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: events concerning Bowser too and can explore the mystery surrounding her. 64 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Who was she really all right? So, Mary Elizabeth Bowser 65 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: was born into slavery in about eighteen thirty nine, and 66 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: there's some questions surrounding her exact name, as we mentioned, 67 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: but it's likely that in those days she was known 68 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: just as Mary or even van Lose Mary, because she 69 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: was the slave of John van Lou who was a 70 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: wealthy hardware merchant in Richmond, Virginia, and the Van Leus 71 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: were a very prominent family. They were well connected, they 72 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: were well respected. They had this huge mansion on the 73 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: highest hill in Richmond. Things started to change though for 74 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: the family after John van Lew died, and sources differ 75 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: as to when that was eighteen forty three or eighteen 76 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: fifty one. But it wasn't the wealth that changed. The 77 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: family definitely inherited all of that. It was some of 78 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: their social conventions and beliefs that started to change. Right. So, 79 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: after his death, the eldest Van lou daughter, Elizabeth van Leu, 80 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: convinced her mother to free all nine of the family 81 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: slaves Mary included, and she also supposedly bought the relatives 82 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: of those slaves and freed them too. So why did 83 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: she free these slaves? Well, Elizabeth had always had a 84 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: sympathy for slaves, but she had also been educated by 85 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: a school in Philadelphia that opposed slavery, so that just 86 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: reinforced her beliefs and kind of solidified them. Several slaves 87 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: chose to stay on as paid servants in the Van 88 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: Lou household, and Mary was one of them. Elizabeth, though, 89 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: after being around Mary for a wild did recognize her 90 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: intelligence and ended up sending her up to school up 91 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: north in the late eighteen fifties. We're not sure where 92 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: exactly it was, but may have been a Quaker school 93 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. Mary did return to Richmond though, before the 94 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 1: war started, and according to a two thousand six article 95 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: in American History, public record does show that she married 96 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: a free black man named William or perhaps Wilson Bowser 97 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: in eighteen sixty one in St. John's Church, and that's 98 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: where her last name of Bowser comes from. But she 99 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: seems to have immediately taken up with the Van Lou 100 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: household again, this time though it was to do a 101 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: very different kind of work. Yeah, because after the war started, 102 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: Elizabeth van Leu really didn't waste any time contributing to 103 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: the union effort. She got permission to nerves wounded union 104 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: soldiers in Libby Prison, and conditions there were really pretty bad. 105 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: She would visit regularly and assist the soldiers, you know, 106 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: bringing them items like books and stationary and food, and 107 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: she in this way started her spy efforts too, because 108 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: she would carry letters and messages in and out of 109 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: the prison, and the way she'd do this was pretty clever. 110 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: She'd hide them in books or in the bottom of 111 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: a food pan, and then relay those messages to union officers. 112 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes she would just talk to the new prisoners and 113 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: they would tell her what they'd seen, and other times, uh, 114 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: they'd tell her what they had overheard from doctors or 115 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: nurses or guards who were talking in the prison. So 116 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: she had a lot of different means of communication going 117 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: on within the prison, but also some cool ways to 118 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: code or messages. Yeah. Sometimes the books she carried out, 119 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: for example, would have faintly underlined letters and numbers that 120 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: formed a message when you put them together and read 121 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: them altogether. A little smarter than Bell Boyd's tactic of 122 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: signing Bell at the end of her aspect or early 123 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: tactic at least or the pages of the books would 124 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: have tiny pin pricks on them that meant something, so 125 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: the books were used in that way. But another tactic 126 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: of Eliza Bits is that she would write letters that 127 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: had coded messages written in invisible ink between the lines, 128 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: and the ink would turn black if you applied milk 129 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: to it. And Sarah loves this one because she used 130 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: to be quite the connoisseur of invisible ink. I was 131 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: kind of the treehouse spy in my day, and I 132 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: did have some invisible ink, which which I used a 133 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: great effect. But Elizabeth would carry the CIPHERD code for 134 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: all of these messages in the back of her watch, 135 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: which I thought that was really interesting too, because who's 136 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: going to take apart this Richmond socialites watch when she's 137 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: leaving the prison, you know, just a real clever final 138 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: detail for all of this. Yeah, And it said that 139 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: years later when she died, they actually found that code 140 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: in the same place, So she kept it all those years, 141 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: even after the war, right, so when it became dangerous 142 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: to send this information through the mail or through the post. 143 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: Elizabeth set up an elaborate network with five courier relay 144 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: points between her home and Union army officers. Sometimes she 145 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: would um tear a message into pieces and have each 146 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: piece delivered by a different agent to keep it hidden. Yeah. Again, 147 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: pretty amazing tactics. So of course others in Richmond noticed 148 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: that this woman had clear union sympathies. She was visiting 149 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: the prison and all of that, and they didn't improve. 150 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: So to offset suspicion, she started up an act. She 151 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: pretended to be crazy. She wore dirty, torn clothing, she 152 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: left her hair uncombed, it got all matted. She would hum, 153 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: she would jerk her head back and forth and carry 154 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: on conversations with herself while she walked down the street. 155 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: People even started calling her crazy bet, so nobody paid 156 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: that much heed to what she was doing. Yeah, and 157 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: again to compare her to Bell Boyd, I mean, in 158 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: that episode we talked about how Bell used her feminine 159 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: wiles to carry off her spine draw out information from 160 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: from union men. Yeah, exactly. And Elizabeth has had to 161 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: pretend to be crazy and you know, use all these 162 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: secret codes, all these kind of involved tactics because she 163 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: was in her forties when she started spying and was 164 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: a spinster, not necessarily considered that attractive, so she took 165 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: a different approach. She did um and it was a 166 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: fairly effective one. Another thing that she did that was 167 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: different from Bell too, though, is that she didn't work alone, 168 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,359 Speaker 1: and probably the best known for is establishing this extensive 169 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: network of spies in Richmond that the Federals dubbed the 170 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: Richmond Ring, and it consisted of hundreds of spies that 171 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: managed to work their way into pretty much every arm 172 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: of the Confederate establishment, Libby prison, the war, Navy departments, 173 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: Richmond businesses, and with the help of Mary Bowser, into 174 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: the Confederate Executive Mansion itself. All right, So we've got 175 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: to explain the background behind that. It said that Elizabeth, 176 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: perhaps through the recommendation of society connections, got Mary a 177 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: job as a servant in none other than Jefferson Davis's 178 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: household under the name Ellen Bond. And Mary, of course 179 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: was said to be intelligent, she had gone to school, 180 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,479 Speaker 1: but she also put on an act, just like Elizabeth 181 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: in a way she didn't let others know how smart 182 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: she really was. She pretended to be kind of dim 183 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: wit it a little bit loopy, so no one in 184 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: the executive mansion would think anything of saying important things 185 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: in front of her. Yeah, up to that point, slaves 186 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: in general were underestimated, though that started to change a 187 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: little bit as the war went on. That was one 188 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: of the things that really blew me away about this 189 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: this podcast too, that that you would have to go 190 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: through that transformation of feeling that people would be so 191 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: confident to speak in front of their slaves at the 192 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: beginning of the war at least. Yeah, it's hard for 193 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: us to imagine nowadays. But in eighteen sixty three, General 194 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: Robert E. Lee made a statement that I think was 195 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: kind of a revelation at the time. His quote was, 196 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: the chief source of information to the enemy is through 197 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: our negroes. I mean, people didn't even realize that their 198 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: servants would be listening or would be taking in and 199 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: interpreting the information that they were so freely giving out. Yeah, 200 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: so apparently Mary's tactic worked. You know, she made herself 201 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: blend into the background, just kind of a spacey young 202 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: woman who was working in the house. And meanwhile, though 203 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: she was listening to everything she heard while she was 204 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: serving meals in the Presidential dining room, she saved scraps 205 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: from Davis's waiste basket while she cleaned up his study. 206 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: She would memorize messages that she read on his desk 207 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: while she was dusting. And a man named Thomas McNiven, 208 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: who was a Scottish baker in Richmond at the time 209 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: and also a union spy and the one who gave 210 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: us the only documented reference to Mary as a union spy, 211 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: said that she had a photographic memory, so she could 212 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: remember every word of the mess wages that she saw. Yeah, 213 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: and the info that she got included things like true movements, 214 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: military strategies, treasury reports, and from time to time Mary 215 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: would meet up with Elizabeth near the Van lou mansion 216 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: to give her reports of what she learned, and then 217 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: Elizabeth would come dressed as a countrywoman so that she 218 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't be recognized, basically, and it said that McNiven, for 219 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: his part, would sometimes serve as a courier for Mary too. 220 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: When his bakery wagon came around to the Executive mansion, 221 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: she'd passed information along to him, and nobody thought anything 222 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: of it because it was just the baker coming backer 223 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: and the servant picking up the goods. So Mary pulled 224 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: off this act from about eighteen sixty three to eighteen 225 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: sixty five, and Elizabeth reported everything she found out back 226 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: to Ulysses s. Grant, and it said at one point 227 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: General Lee complained that the enemy received his directives before 228 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: they even reached his own lieutenant. So clearly there was 229 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: a pretty sophisticated spying system going on in Richmond. Yeah, 230 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: and it's all said that Davis suspected that there was 231 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: a leak in his house, but he never managed to 232 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: really figure out who it was. But Mary must have 233 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: felt the heat of suspicion because in eighteen sixty five 234 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: she just disappeared. She fled the capital, and some even 235 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: say that she may have tried to burn down the 236 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: house on her way out the door. We're not sure 237 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: if that's actually kind of call attention to your own flight, 238 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: but nonetheless, no one knows what happened to her. So 239 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: after the war, Van Loo and the federal government destroyed 240 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: all the records of the Richmond Ring to protect the 241 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: lives of everybody who was involved. But again that's why 242 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: so many details of Mary's life are still very sketchy. 243 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: So we mentioned McNiven and how he gave us our 244 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: only documented source of Mary's spying, but some people even 245 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: feel that his account can't be trusted because he had 246 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: this tendency to exaggerate. Nevertheless, stories about Mary did start 247 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: showing up as earliest nineteen hundred in Richmond newspapers, and 248 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: Van Loo's niece even revealed her name in an inner 249 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: you in nineteen ten, So clearly some people knew who 250 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: this was, and they were talking about her well after 251 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: the fact, right Bowser maybe even left a diary behind, 252 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: and it had reportedly been seen by the wife of 253 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: her great great grand nephew as late as in nineteen 254 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: fifty two and would have been a gold mine of 255 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: information about her life potentially, but it was thrown away. 256 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: And we mentioned in the beginning that we weren't even 257 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: exactly sure about what Mary's real name was, because more 258 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: recent research by scholar Elizabeth Varren, who wrote a book 259 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: on Van Lou, suggests that Mary's name was actually married 260 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: Jane Richards and Mary Jane Richards was a Van Lou 261 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: slave who was sent to be educated in New Jersey 262 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: as a child, and after the war, Richard's married this 263 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: guy with the last named Garvin and went on to 264 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: become an educator, and a couple of times in an 265 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: interview and in a letter, she did admit to working 266 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: in the Secret Service during the war as a detective, 267 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: even though parts of her story contradict some other account 268 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: of Bowser's life. So it's it's hard to say. Maybe 269 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: this is the same woman, maybe maybe it's different. Yeah, 270 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: but maybe it does lend some validity to Bowser's story though, 271 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: the story that a person like her existed after the war. 272 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: Verena Davis Jefferson, Davis's wife, was asked about the espionage 273 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: work of her former maid, Mary Bowser, and she denied 274 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: that any of her Richmond servants could have been spies, 275 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: and in nineteen o five letters she even said quote, 276 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: I had no educated Negro in my household and really 277 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: just flatly denied having hired anyone from Van lou So 278 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: her response is considered kind of questionable, though, because she 279 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: reportedly had a few servants on staff who were very 280 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,479 Speaker 1: well known and widely known around the area to be educated. 281 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: So she may have just said this because she didn't 282 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: want to admit that she had been duped by someone 283 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: working in her household. Yeah, or maybe she wasn't even 284 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: aware of what was going on in her household, didn't 285 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: realize her own servants were educated, especially since we know 286 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: Mary was putting on an act. Presumably others could have 287 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: been too, And that's a good point. But as for 288 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: Van lou, Grant praised her after the war for her contributions. 289 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: He said, quote, you have sent me the most valuable 290 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: information received from Richmond during the war. So very high praise. 291 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: And when he became president, he appointed her Richmond postmaster, 292 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: a position that paid four thousand dollars a year, but 293 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: after he left office, she lost that gig. She went 294 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: on to work in the Washington Post Office, but eventually 295 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: had to leave that too, and then couldn't get work. Yeah, 296 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: and by the time she died on September at the 297 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: age of eighty two, she was very poor. She was lonely. 298 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: She had spent all her money off her inheritance on 299 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: her spy efforts during the war and helping former slaves 300 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: after that, And in the end, the family of a 301 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: man she had helped in Libby prison came through for her. 302 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: They gave her some income, but she still had no 303 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: friends locally because of that controversial stance. She had taken 304 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: during the war, so kind of a sad ending to 305 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: the story of a master spy that interesting in the US. 306 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: She certainly stuck to her principles. 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