1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,480 Speaker 1: To be with you. 2 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 2: I'm Katie Turror. Donald Trump is meddling, this time in Brazil, 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: using the cover of trade as a way to strong 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: arm the democratic country into backing off one of his 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: political allies, the former president of Brazil, Yayr Bolsonaro, a 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 2: man who also tried to claim the election he lost 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: was rigged, a man who also allegedly helped fuel an 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: attempted insurrection of Brazil's own government. But Bolsonaro, unlike Trump, 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: has gone to trial for his role, and the Supreme 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 2: Court down there could very well convict him and put 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: him in prison. Later this year, in a letter to 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: Brazil's current president, Lula, mister Trump calls the prosecution to 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: quote international disgrace, but Lula is not backing down, telling 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: Trump Brazil is a sovereign country with independent institutions that 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: will not accept being abused by anyone. But it isn't 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: just a letter from President Trump. He's actively trying to 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: press Brazil financially with fifty percent tariffs, claiming the US 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: as a trade deficit with the country. 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 3: But that's not. 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: True at all. 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: The US actually has a trade surplus with Brazil. So 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: why is Donald Trump using the cover of trade to 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: interfere in another democracy, what does he get out of it? 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: Joining us out NBC News Business and Data correspondent Brian Chung, 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: Managing editor of The Bulwark at MSNBC contributor Sam Stein, 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: and Senior editor at The Atlantic and host of Radio 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: Atlantic Hannah Rosen. Brian, first off, explain the trade relationship 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: with Brazil. 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, so a lot of Americans might be tuning into 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 4: the news of the Brazil tariffs and wondering how is 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 4: that going to impact the things that I buy. 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: At the store. 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: Brazil exports a lot of major goods that we see 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 4: at the grocery store on a daily basis, most namely coffee, 35 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: so we are a major importer of coffee from Brazil. 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: Also things like orange hues, as well as produce. We 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: even import some crude oil. So when you think about 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: a fifty percent tariff which would be effective August first, 39 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 4: unless Brazil can negotiate with the United States, that all 40 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 4: those things could in theory get fifty percent more expensive 41 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: for the consumer as well. You make another important point 42 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 4: about the politics of all of this as well. Up 43 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 4: until now, we had seen a lot of the letters 44 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 4: that the President have been publishing on truth social two 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 4: countries where the United States has a trade deficit where 46 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: they don't buy as many things from the United States 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 4: as the United States buys from them. Brazil is a 48 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: first country that we've seen in a letter so far 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: this week that buys more from the United States than 50 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 4: the US buys from Brazil. We have a trade surplus 51 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 4: with that country to the magnitude of almost seven and 52 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: a half billion dollars. So again that's the reason why 53 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: the rhetoric is also from the President about air Bolsonaro 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 4: as opposed to about the country cheating us through a 55 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: trade deficit, because we don't have a trade deficit with Brazil. Again, 56 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 4: we have a trade surplus. 57 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: Cap Is there any way to look at our trade 58 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: relationship with Brazil, Brian and to see something unfair going on? 59 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: Anything that would justify Donald Trump? Try? Do you use 60 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: trade as a cudgel? 61 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 4: Well, again, even when you look at the letter that 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 4: he's sent to Brazil, it is completely restructured from what 63 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 4: we had seen as the copy and paste shop for 64 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 4: every other country that he had sent letters to earlier 65 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: this week, including to South Korea, to Japan, to smaller 66 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 4: countries like Kazakhstan, Moldova with Brazil. He started the letter 67 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 4: essentially with an entire paragraph about how he felt Brazil 68 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: was unfairly treating Hyer Bolsonaro. So this kind of underscores 69 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: the president isn't very is going to succeed in using 70 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: the trade deficit and they are cheating us in a 71 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: trade relationship as the excuse to do this type of tariff. 72 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: But again the question here is can Brazil then still 73 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 4: negotiate with the United States, because that is still very 74 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: much relevant to this conversation, as it is with any 75 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: country that we have we have a trade deficit with. 76 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: There is a timeline now, there's a few weeks until 77 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: August first, and can the Brazilian government convince the United 78 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 4: States to not put that fifty percent tariff in place? 79 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 4: That is the open question at this point. 80 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: This is the will scream of a dying regime. 81 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 5: Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on 82 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 5: these people. 83 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying 84 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: about the people. The people have had a belly full 85 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I 86 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: know you've tried to do everything in the world to 87 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: stop there, but you're not going to stop it. It's 88 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: going to happen. 89 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: And where do people like that go to share the 90 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 3: big line? Mega media? 91 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 5: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 92 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 5: these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my 93 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 5: task and what is my purpose? If that answer is 94 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 5: to save my country, this country will be saved. 95 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Van. 96 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the War Room. 97 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 6: It's Natalie G. Winters hosting, filling in for Stephen K. Van, 98 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 6: and we are here a little bit of a different 99 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 6: background than the White House or anywhere in the horrible city, 100 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 6: though I guess it's slightly greater now that is Washington, DC. 101 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 6: But we are coming at you live from the Tampa 102 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 6: Convention Center. I guess it's the eve of Turning Points SaaS. 103 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: That is the Student Action Summit. 104 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 6: So I guess don't lose faith in this country for 105 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 6: a lot of reasons, but certainly in the youth. I've 106 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 6: already started to see so many hundreds of young kids 107 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 6: pouring in in school, out of school, on summer break, 108 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 6: you name it here, Excited to see so many people. 109 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: Speak, including Stephen K. 110 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: Bannon. 111 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 6: You got Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, DHS Secretary Christinome Charlie. 112 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 6: Of course the whole turning point and rav crew. Now 113 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 6: our set is in the midst of being built. So 114 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 6: I'm going to preemptively apologize if you hear any loud 115 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 6: shall we say, men at work noises? We got a 116 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 6: lot of hammers and construction tools going on. But that's 117 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 6: why we have the beautiful background behind us. You know warm, 118 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 6: We're always gonzo. We're gonna have Mike Ben's on shortly 119 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 6: to hit what you guys just saw in. 120 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: The cold open. 121 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 6: But before we get there, I went to flag at 122 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 6: Orient Denver. You can toss it up on screen coming 123 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 6: from Notice this isn't war room. This is a direct 124 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 6: quote the story titled Trump fired them. Now they're plotting 125 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 6: to stop him, and I guess we'll continue with the 126 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 6: no paraphrasing, just directly quoting because it's so diabolical. 127 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: Quote. 128 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 6: USAID and the State Department are now reapplying the skills 129 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 6: and knowledge they built up over decades. 130 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: To undermine Trump's power. 131 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 6: Now this piece goes on extensively reported several quotes, several officials, 132 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 6: anonymous and on the record, including people who are currently 133 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 6: employed by the federal government, got your tax pay hollers 134 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 6: working under President Trump as saying, quote, get ready for this. 135 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 6: They were so quick to disband USAID, the group that 136 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 6: supposedly supposedly instigates color revolutions. 137 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: But they've done a very foolish thing. 138 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 6: You just released a bunch of well trained individuals into 139 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 6: your population. If you kept our offices going and how 140 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 6: display solitaire in the office, you might have been safer 141 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 6: to keep your regime. Now, from a language an out, 142 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 6: we've got a lot of action going on, But from 143 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 6: a I would say analytical analysis of what they're talking about. 144 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 6: This is not democracy activists talking about their different worldview 145 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 6: or being apoplectic over tariffs. These are people who are using, 146 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 6: in some cases kinetic tactics to oppose President Trunk and 147 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 6: his administration. And to that point, they're actually hosting, as 148 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 6: highlighted in this article, secret workshops promoting a tactic they 149 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 6: call non cooperation. Again a direct quote from one of 150 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 6: these sources, quote, they're building a network of government workers 151 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 6: willing to engage in even minor acts of rebellion in 152 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 6: the office, and they're planting the seeds of what they 153 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 6: hope could become a nationwide general strike. And the go 154 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 6: to document that they're circulating and using to buttress a 155 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 6: lot of these activities. Will you probably want to believe 156 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 6: me or you think I'm joking, but I'm not. It's 157 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 6: a quote an old CIA pamphlet with allies who still 158 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 6: work in the government called simple sabotage. And before we 159 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 6: get into that, I know Mike Ben's is going to 160 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 6: have a lot of thoughts on that. 161 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: Let us just case closed. 162 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 6: I think war rooms theory of the case that there 163 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 6: is no meaningful distinction between domestic policy and foreign policy. 164 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 6: And frankly, all of these foreign wars, these mass foreign 165 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 6: surveillance states, the foreign interventionism really has only just been 166 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 6: a really training ground, a test run for the tactics 167 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 6: that they've wanted to deploy, fine tune them and hone 168 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 6: them in here in the United States. And through a 169 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 6: lot of these quotes in these programs, right, the idea 170 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 6: that the people who carried out color revolutions, regime change, 171 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 6: pro democracy movements, choose whatever euphemism you want, that those 172 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 6: people are now turning inwards, right, not focusing on saving 173 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 6: those countries, but instead weaponizing those tactics here in the 174 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 6: United States proves not only that the deep state exists, 175 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 6: I think we're far long gone past that, but that USAID, 176 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 6: the State Department, this foreign global apparatus has been ground 177 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 6: zero in the hotbed of so much of that resistance 178 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 6: against President Trump. Now I want to read some more quotes. 179 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 6: You know, rarely do we quote legacy media alice in 180 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 6: the warrant. But it's important to understand the enemy. And 181 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 6: I say the enemy because this is not just you know, 182 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 6: high flutin MSNBC rhetoric. 183 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: This is calls for kinetic action. Quote. Widespread practice of 184 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: simple sabotage will. 185 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 6: Harass and demoralize enemy administrators and police. The saboteur may 186 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 6: have to reverse his thinking. Where he formally thought of 187 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 6: keeping his tool sharp, he should now let them grow dull. 188 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 6: Services that formerly were lubricated should now be standed normally diligent. 189 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: He should now be lazy and careless. 190 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 6: And I guess we're exposed to what believe that those 191 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 6: very same people had nothing to do with the not one, 192 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 6: but two attempts on President Trump's life. They actually have 193 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 6: a new group called Democracy Aid where they're having quote 194 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 6: invite only workshops with federal employees who hear about them 195 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 6: from their friends, where they've quote shifted from salvaging the 196 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 6: foreign assistance infrastructure to redeploying that inside the United States. 197 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: Let that sink in. 198 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 6: The global apparatus that your tax dollars were used to 199 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 6: set up to influence elections abroad are now being turned 200 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 6: inward in a circular firing squad to come after the 201 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 6: president that you voted for in the administration that you elected. 202 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 6: And they're so bold, brave, and brash that they're willing 203 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 6: to be quoted on it in the media. Also flagging 204 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 6: no conspiracies, no coincidences. The Brennan Center that was one 205 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 6: of the consulting firms in weird think tanks that, of 206 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 6: course none other than Judge Merschawn's daughter was busy consulting 207 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 6: on behalf of they receive a ton of Soros money. 208 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 6: They put up a poll today that about half of 209 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 6: all election officials and election workers are and I quote 210 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 6: concerned about politically motivated investigations. Well to that, I would 211 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 6: say you probably should be. And if you're worried about 212 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 6: an investigation probably means you did something wrong. And of 213 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 6: course today you saw the sweeping idea right that President 214 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 6: Trump can't institute anything related to revoking birthright citizenships, sort 215 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 6: of doing it through a class action lawsuit instead of 216 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 6: the nationwide injunctions, right, kind of overruling what the Supreme 217 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 6: Court did. 218 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: Well, guess who was behind. 219 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 6: That lawsuit, none other than Norm Eisen, one of the 220 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 6: lead architects of everything USAID and State Department and color 221 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 6: revolutions abroad. Now, I do want to flag one piece 222 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 6: of very good news. You know, we've really honed in on, 223 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 6: particularly the United States shortage of rare earths, both on 224 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 6: the actual supply side, but also more importantly on the 225 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 6: processing side, especially when we engage in these ever expanding tariffs. 226 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 6: Tariffor is not just against the PRC, but based frankly 227 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 6: the whole world. 228 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: The United States really has. 229 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 6: A critical shortage of these critical minerals trying to dominate 230 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 6: about the bards of ninety percent of the processing the 231 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 6: refinement of these critical rare earths, not just for your 232 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 6: day to day lives, but of course for military technology too. 233 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 6: And if we want to toss the CNBC article up 234 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 6: on screen, and just a wonderful move from the Defense 235 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 6: Department from Secretary Pete Hegseth Pentagon. The Pentagon is set 236 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 6: to become the largest shareholder. They really helped spearhead a new, 237 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 6: if not the largest, rare earth mine called Mountain Pass 238 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 6: in the United States, which is going to help give 239 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 6: us an upper hand against China. You know, we talk 240 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 6: about undrestricted warfare all the time, right, the idea that 241 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 6: you don't have to invade the United. 242 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: States to overtake a country. 243 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 6: Frankly, I think they learned from Afghanistan the Graveyard of Empires, 244 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 6: that that's actually quite the depletion of resources. Instead, they 245 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 6: want to create a White House where, while it might 246 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 6: not be flying the Chinese flag, every single electricity tool, utilities, 247 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 6: you know, the medicines, the prescriptions that you rely on. 248 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 6: We are all relying on the Chinese Communist Party for 249 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 6: all of those supply chains, and the rare earth supply 250 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 6: chain in particular, has I think really grave ramifications for 251 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 6: the national security. 252 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: Of this country. 253 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 6: And it's great to see the DoD stepping up their 254 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 6: game and getting ahead of that. 255 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: Now, Mike Benz, I want to bring you on. 256 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 6: Obviously they're going to hold you through the break, I 257 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 6: guess trigger warning to the audience. 258 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: I will have to interrupt. You don't like it when 259 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: I do. 260 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 6: That, but just give me a few minutes on this 261 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 6: notice piece because my head was exploding, or I guess 262 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 6: maybe it wasn't because I expect it, but your thoughts. 263 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 5: Someone had plagiarized my work. I have this concept I've 264 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 5: been describing of a so called professional class of regime 265 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 5: change specialists at USAID, the State Department, and the CIA, 266 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 5: And this language that I've been using for years now, 267 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 5: which is that we have trained this professional class of 268 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 5: government officials at USAID, the State Department, and the CIA 269 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 5: with a very special set of skills, which is toppling 270 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 5: governments that the US State Department does not like, that 271 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 5: the Foreign Policy Establishment, US, UK, NATO are Transatlantic alliance. 272 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 5: When we need a government gone, we have a professional 273 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 5: class of specialists we employed to do that work. And 274 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 5: they are concentrated ati ID, the State Department, the Central 275 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 5: Intelligence Agency, and all of the USAID and State Department 276 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 5: funded NGOs and foundations and for profit contractors of that network. 277 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 5: And this is fundamentally what this group has been doing 278 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 5: to and against Trump, taking that special set of skills 279 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 5: to deploy US government funded and goos against the democratically 280 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 5: elected president. This is the group that we send in 281 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 5: to topp of a democracy when we do not like 282 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 5: the democractic John. 283 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 6: Humble Brake, I apologize, However, I would think for all 284 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 6: the military and military strategy that usaid and are better 285 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 6: is over at State of Dunn. 286 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Sunsu. They should appear weak when. 287 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 6: They are strong, and not be giving all these quotes 288 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 6: and airing out their strategy to notice, that's my humble 289 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 6: critique that I haven't received billions of taxpair dollars to 290 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 6: reach that conclusion. 291 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: We're coming at July from Tampa. We'll be right back 292 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: after the short break with more mc ben's he here's 293 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: your host, Stephen k Ban. 294 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 6: Welcome back to the war room, the temporary war room. 295 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 6: We're here in Tampa. I think it's probably the Tampa 296 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 6: Bay behind you at the Tampa Bay Convention Center. 297 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: This set we were supposed to be in and still 298 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: being constructed. That's okay. 299 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 6: I'm sure all of the workers there are actual American citizens. 300 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: Rab it's the best. 301 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 6: We're very excited for a fun week and weekend here, 302 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 6: so you will be getting here shortly. But in the meantime, 303 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 6: you've got Natalie Winter's holding the Ford down. And what 304 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 6: else is coming in hot that is virtical dot com 305 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 6: slash Bannon, where you gotta be texting Bannon to nine 306 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 6: eight nine eight nine eight getting the latest installment of 307 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 6: all things gold information. Obviously coming off the Bricks summit, 308 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 6: I saw there was some reporting that the PRC has 309 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 6: been back channeling asking questions about the status in terms 310 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 6: of the reserve currency being the United States dollar and 311 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 6: how they won is look in comparison, interesting questions. 312 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: No conspiracies, no coincidences, as you know here in the 313 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: war room. 314 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 6: But speaking of conspiracies and coincidences and pattern recognition, Mike, 315 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 6: I think MSNBC, despite all the brilliant luminaries over at 316 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 6: the Bulwark, like sam Stein, when they're sitting there saying well, 317 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 6: this is the typical tariff playbook, there's one thing that 318 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 6: was very distinctive about the Brazil tariffs, and that was 319 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 6: the explicit mention, as you noted, of the censorship that 320 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 6: they've been engaging in and the sort of weird Orwellian 321 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 6: games that they're playing. 322 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: So can you to pivot to that? Can you sort of. 323 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 6: Walk us through the significance of the brazil tariffs. 324 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 5: In a shout across the Bow, this is a fifty 325 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 5: percent massive whopping tariff on the on goods coming from 326 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 5: the country of Brazil, which is under a unbelievable dictatorship 327 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 5: through Blulah and his henchmen in the courts, who have 328 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 5: arrested the former president Bolsonaro, who are silencing tens of 329 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 5: millions of Brazilians, throwing them in jail for any speech 330 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 5: that criticizes Lula. This is the thumb of a total dictatorship, 331 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 5: something that we've not really seen in any Latin American 332 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 5: country outside of Venezuela since the Cold War. And what's 333 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 5: been done here is essentially massive economic pressure in order 334 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 5: to try to change the incentives inside the Brazilian government 335 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 5: around continuing these dictatorial coercive measures against their own people. 336 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 5: And the fact that this was explicitly done in the 337 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 5: name of what Trump called digital trade that essentially are 338 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 5: social media companies and their ability to operate in foreign 339 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 5: countries is part of the trade package that goes into 340 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 5: the bilateral relationship. The fact is is it was Lula's 341 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 5: government that not only ordered to shut down of x 342 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 5: in their country, but also ordered massive fines and even 343 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 5: seized assets from Starlink, a completely unrelated company, in order 344 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 5: to put more pressure on X to censor as the 345 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 5: government wanted. And so, given that Lula is on the inpower, 346 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 5: largely because the Biden administration orchestrated massive covert action to 347 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 5: prop him up, there has been no pushback directly against 348 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 5: the Lula government from the US government, who they were 349 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 5: in bed with on their way into power. But Trump 350 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 5: has now basically signaled a massive change to that policy, 351 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 5: and I think that the reverberations on that as the 352 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 5: tariff set in will be substantial. I believe that any 353 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: free speech diplomacy toolkit has to involve trade, aid, arms, 354 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 5: and tariffs. Every lever of our relationship with foreign countries 355 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 5: should be leveraged to promote the universal human rights principle 356 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 5: of free speech. We did this in the Cold War. 357 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 5: This is how we opened up much of the Iron Curtain. 358 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 5: This is how we promoted free speech, exported the First 359 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 5: Amendment in spirit throughout the Cold War. We have a 360 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 5: history of doing this. It's worked before, it's working now. 361 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 5: We just got a three percent digital tax and Canada 362 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 5: ban stopped over this. We got the UK to pause 363 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 5: enforcement of censorship aspects of the online harms built by 364 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 5: threatening tariffs. And I believe that this playbook has to 365 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 5: be taken not just on Brazil, but especially against the 366 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 5: European Union. 367 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 6: And I can't have Mike Benson without asking you the 368 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 6: latest with all things Epstein. 369 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you've been. 370 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 6: On the show since that debacle, and that's an understatement. 371 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm curious your thoughts on sort of. 372 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 6: Where we stand the weird undated unsigned memo. You had 373 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 6: a great hit with Jesse Kelly where you were really 374 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 6: getting into the sort of deep CIA ties there. But 375 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 6: I'm just curious your kind of overall assessment on where 376 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 6: we stand on that fight, that information warfare fight. 377 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 5: Well, I believe quite strongly that Jeffrey Epstein is exactly 378 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 5: as Vicky Ward reported. Epstein's Sweetheart plea deal. Justice Department 379 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 5: official Alex Acosta said that he belonged to intelligence and 380 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 5: the DOJ was told in two thousand and eight to 381 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 5: leave him alone. And I believe that there has been 382 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 5: a cover up of that aspect of the Jeffrey Epstein story, 383 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 5: which obviously inverts the entire conception of Jeffrey Epstein. If 384 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 5: indeed that is substantiated, and tonight I will actually be 385 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 5: publishing a detailed presentation video on the exact documents to 386 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 5: be sought by the Justice Department, so that there is 387 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 5: no wiggle room to get out of this issue any longer. 388 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 5: The exact documents to make public that I know the 389 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 5: Justice Department has the exact individuals to follow up with 390 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 5: and to keep the American people apprized as to the 391 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 5: on the record statements those individuals should give to the DOJ. 392 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 5: I believe they've been able to effect actively get away 393 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 5: with not investigating the Epstein's intelligence connections because of the 394 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 5: Pandora's box that opens. But I think that given the 395 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 5: public outrage over this and the intense pressure that's felt 396 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 5: by so many in the Admin, combined with the knowledge 397 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 5: that this is not going away, that they will at 398 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 5: least have to give a little bit. And tonight I'll 399 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 5: be publishing a video about what exactly they need to 400 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 5: give immediately in order to show that this is a 401 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 5: genuine investigation and not a cover up. 402 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the audience is certainly going to be all over that. 403 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 6: I think why this audience is so upset and myself 404 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 6: included at what has been going on, because I think 405 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 6: it's an affront to sort of what the core foundational 406 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 6: values of the MAGA movement really rest upon, which is 407 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 6: a frustration with the sort of establishment Republican belief and 408 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 6: ideology that accountability is found in, you know, strongly worded 409 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 6: letter and the tweets and the sort of performative politicking 410 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 6: of the day. Now it seems like we're not even 411 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 6: really getting that. We're being told that we just need 412 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 6: to move on and not care about it. Certainly we're 413 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 6: not getting prison sentences or anything, and sort of that 414 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 6: territory frankly on a lot of verticals, on. 415 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: A lot of fronts. 416 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 6: I'm just curious and sort of the you know, botched dissemination, 417 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 6: whether it was the Binder's stuff, now this weird letter, 418 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 6: where do you sort of maybe in your mind kind 419 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 6: of reverse engineer. Obviously we don't know the answer, but 420 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 6: place the blame. Perhaps it's a loaded word, but sort 421 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 6: of the issue with the release of these files. Is 422 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 6: this something that you know, is it the Trump admin 423 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 6: is it politicals? Is it something that you know, what 424 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 6: we would colloquially refer to as the deep state? 425 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: Is it a CIA thing? Where do you think that. 426 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 6: Sort of urge to suppress this is really emanating from I. 427 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 5: Think it's a combination of donors and national security officials. 428 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 5: I think that they have intersecting interests on this, and 429 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 5: they're both involved in the story, and they both have 430 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 5: considerable influence on not just the White House itself, but 431 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 5: the agencies, the policies at all the executive branch agencies. 432 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: I think that. 433 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 5: Part of the reason this is such a hot potato 434 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 5: is because there are Trump World donors who have been 435 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 5: intimately involved in this network. And part of the reason 436 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 5: this is such a hot potato is because if they 437 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 5: have to tell us about Epstein's ties, then they have 438 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 5: to tell the world because the world reads our media. 439 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 5: They can't just give us all all three hundred million 440 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 5: Americans national security clearance is to access it. It becomes 441 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 5: public knowledge, which means the entire network effectively would have 442 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 5: its cover blown and it would frankly generate a lot 443 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 5: more questions than answers about every single thing. Once Epstein's 444 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 5: intelligence ties are confirmed, then what that immediately proceeds to 445 00:23:53,640 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 5: is an intense, forensic, detailed, microscopic instigation into every single 446 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 5: thing that Epstein has done. Everyone that he's handled money for, 447 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 5: every company he's invested in, every region he did business in, 448 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 5: every business leader he met with, in order to effectively ask, okay, 449 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 5: well was that a CIA operation? 450 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: Was? 451 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 5: That you know is rarely intelligence saut the intelligence UK intelligence? 452 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 5: What every single thing you know of a storied four 453 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 5: decade international jet setting career then gets opened up and 454 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 5: infected by the intelligence label once Epstein does. And so 455 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 5: I think that, in combination with donor pressure, has been 456 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 5: has has created a real bind that has put the 457 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 5: White House squarely in the crosshairs of the power struggle 458 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 5: between the voting base and the donors who provide the money. 459 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: Mike Ben's as always, we love having you in the 460 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: war room. 461 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 6: I'm sure people are going to want to get those 462 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 6: documents you're going to be releasing or calling for tonight. 463 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: If people want to follow you watch that. Where can 464 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: they go to get all things? 465 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 5: Mike Ben's best place is on x at Mike Ben's 466 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 5: cyber I also have a YouTube channel where I upload 467 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 5: legacy videos. Have five hundred some there as well. 468 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: Mike Benz, thank you for joining us and sorry for 469 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: all the hammer. 470 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 6: Noises and it's you may have been hearing that was 471 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 6: not the deep state. 472 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: We have it on good authority. That was really a 473 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: raerica you're always making. I'm sorry, it's not me. 474 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 6: I flew down here to do this show, and this 475 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 6: that was already It's all good. 476 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: We have a beautiful background. We love Tampa Bay. 477 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 6: In the meantime, we also have, of course Birch Gold's 478 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 6: so I got to be checking out Birch gol dot 479 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 6: com slash Bannon texting Bannon to nine eight nine eight 480 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 6: nine eight. It's probably even a better looking asset than 481 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 6: everything we got going on behind me here. Fun fact, 482 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 6: I think this is a very shallow bay. It's about 483 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 6: only twelve feet deep. I googled that. In the break, 484 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 6: there you go. I will also add this right. If 485 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 6: you can't get the Epstein's stuff right, how in the heck, 486 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 6: how in the hell are we going to get the 487 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 6: twenty twenty election audit right? The origins of COVID Jan six. 488 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 6: This is rudimentary stuff. This is easy, This is basic. 489 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 6: All it takes is courage. And when I voted, and 490 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 6: I'm sure you to two for President Trump, I voted 491 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 6: for twenty twenty election audits and audits of stuff like this, 492 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 6: going after people like Brennan Laclapp are all these horrible 493 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 6: people who have lied and destroyed this country and probably 494 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 6: could be tried for treason. Not audits of I don't know, 495 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 6: you know, Patriot missile reserve, interceptor reserves and AMMO and 496 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 6: munition's reserves to make sure that we've enough so we 497 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 6: can continue to send more of them to Israel and Ukraine, 498 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 6: right election audits, not auditing Iran's nuclear program on behalf 499 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 6: of foreign countries like Israel, or arming Ukraine even more. 500 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: These are foundational values. But as Steve always. 501 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 6: Says, maga you guys, this audience, we're up for a 502 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 6: fight and you're the only ones who can do it. 503 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after the. 504 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: Four use your host, Stephen k Ban. 505 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the war room. 506 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 6: We are still here in Tampa. I think the Hammers 507 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 6: have subsided a little bit. That's good. Not the deep State. 508 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 6: Just setting up the stage for Steve the whole crew. 509 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 6: We're going to be here doing live shows tomorrow throughout 510 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 6: the weekend. In this break, I took a quick look 511 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 6: at some of the sponsors the other shows. Beautiful booths 512 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 6: being set up. I've yet to find the Patriot Mobile booth. 513 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 6: You guys know, we love the guys over there. Glenn's 514 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 6: story hardcore Patriots. Hence the name seems only fitting. So 515 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 6: you got to be checking out Patriot mobile dot com, 516 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 6: slash ban and using promo code ban and they have 517 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 6: a host of deals get off all these horrible America 518 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 6: hating and probably compromise networks. 519 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: That's why we love Patriot Mobile. 520 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 6: Now sort of linking what we're talking about before we 521 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 6: went to break what's going on over at the Pentagon. 522 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: Obviously, I think. 523 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 6: That rare earth Mine the Mountain Pass is a huge, 524 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 6: huge win for Secretary heg Seth and Franklin for the country. 525 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 6: I want to bring on will Tibau. I hope I'm 526 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 6: pronouncing that right from cra who we love so much. 527 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 6: For the latest on the NDAA. We've been tracking this 528 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 6: a lot, but where we sort of stand in terms 529 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 6: of our audience making calls, and then there's some other 530 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 6: breaking news I want to get into, but let's just 531 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 6: start with hitting everything that's going on with the NDA. 532 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,239 Speaker 3: Thanks Natalie. So you know, we're in the midst of 533 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: a few really important weeks for the National Defense Authorization Act. Again, 534 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 3: that's this annual you know, coloquially or otherwise known as 535 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: must pass legislation that defines the authorized activities for the 536 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: Department of Defense, against which then money money is allocated 537 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: and appropriators will spend money for the law that is 538 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: authorized in the National Defense Authorization Act. It is I 539 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: think a generational opportunity for America first conservatives to permanently 540 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: redefine how the military has functioned, you know, for too long. 541 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: For decades, we've seen this sclerotic combination of acquisition policy 542 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: that's inefficient and five years too slow. We've seen diversity 543 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: acuit inclusion take a stranglehold on every military personnel decision 544 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: and program decision. And then we see the application of 545 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: military power in a way that doesn't serve American interests. 546 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: So let's not let this chance go to waste. As 547 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: an opportunity to ensure the military serves the American people 548 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: well throughout the twenty first century. This effects a few things. 549 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 3: It's everything from ensuring that good states, good conservative states, 550 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 3: can regulate artificial intelligence and that our AI companies don't 551 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 3: run amok over the American way of life. It's about 552 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 3: codifying the important changes of Sexuary Headseeth and President Trump 553 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 3: of ending wokeness in the Pentagon, ridding the bureaucracy of 554 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: diversity acuit inclusion. That should be law, it shouldn't be 555 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: an executive branch action that ends at the next Democrat president. 556 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 3: And then we should ensure that our military isn't beholden 557 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: to the typical defense industrial base, but is responsive and 558 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: building the kinds of systems and technology that can deter 559 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 3: war and if it comes to it, win the ones 560 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 3: that matter protect our homeland. It is not enough to 561 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: rest on conservative laurels and assume that Sexuary Heaseeth and 562 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: President Trump have it. They do. They're implementing exceptionally important 563 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: policy for the nation, but it is still the job 564 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 3: of Congress to make sure that's real. So you'll probably 565 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: see the House and Senate released versions of the NBA 566 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: in the next ten days or two weeks, and that'll 567 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 3: be the mark on the line. But what comes next 568 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: is a little squirrely and uncertain. There are some secret 569 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: committee votes. There will be the understanding of what's in 570 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: the base text or what's an amendment, and it's imperative 571 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 3: that that based text of the NDA, the text that 572 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 3: is voted on, is as good for America as possible 573 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: on all the issues I mentioned. You know, when amendment 574 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 3: votes happen, that's when you start to have secret ballots, 575 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: when that's when we start to lose accountability over who 576 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 3: supports what. And I think the American people should expect 577 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 3: a lot more from the Conservative majority the Republican majority, 578 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 3: at least in both the House in the Senate. Now 579 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: is the time to act, you know, perhaps more than 580 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 3: any other year. And so it's about holding, you know, 581 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 3: appropriately and genuinely the feet of our senators and congressman 582 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: to the fire so that they're making permanent the actions 583 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 3: of President Trump and Secretary of Hegseth's. It's a golden opportunity. 584 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: But I think you're already starting to sense that the 585 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 3: blob is going to try and move the NDA in 586 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: a typical direction that guarantees status quo interests without good 587 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 3: change in some of the key areas, like we talked about, 588 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: you know, we have to make sure that the NBA 589 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 3: stays focused on the national defense Old America policy too. 590 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm curious to bring this to the news that 591 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 6: just happened today. Speaking of wokeness, speaking of these wins, 592 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 6: the sort of distinction between what Secretary heggsath ones and 593 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 6: what was going on before him. 594 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of holdovers there. 595 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 6: Admiral Donnelly, the person who was responsible for, I guess, 596 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 6: commissioning a lot of these drag shows on if I'm 597 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 6: not mistaken actual Navy vessels for cash prizes. Never thought 598 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 6: I'd be saying that, but maybe I guess under Joe Biden, 599 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 6: I can actually. 600 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: Totally believe that. Walk us through what happened today with him. 601 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: Right, Natalie, It's a great point to bring up Admiral Donnelly, 602 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: frankly and otherwise exceptional naval officer, but he was in 603 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: command of the USS Ronald Reagan back in twenty seventeen 604 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, and during that time, again this is the 605 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 3: first Trump administration, the USS Ronald Reagan hosted Navy sanctioned 606 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: drag shows while the aircraft carrier was deployed. This was not, 607 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 3: you know, kind of a private, offhand activity. This was 608 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 3: an official event where the drag queens were awarded cash prizes, 609 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 3: and then a lot of those drag queens became official 610 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 3: representatives of Navy recruiting efforts. And the point is, and 611 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 3: I think this is the point that Sexuary Hexeth especially understands. 612 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 3: The point is that it's not you know, frankly, it's 613 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 3: kind of absurd to just punish these enlisted service members 614 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: who are perhaps you know, confused about a lot of 615 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 3: things in life, and you know, doing this during their 616 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 3: tour of duty. But the people whom we really need 617 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 3: to hold accountable are the senior uniform military officers who 618 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: allow this to happen. 619 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: You know. 620 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 3: The point is is this is a disqualifying event to 621 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: be in command of a ship. And as a lot 622 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 3: of your audience knows, when you're in the military, you 623 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: are in charge for everything that does or does not 624 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: happen in your ship, on your platoon, of your military 625 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 3: infantry platoon. Right, So Admiral Donnelly was in charge of 626 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 3: those sanctioned events, and he allowed drag shows to happen routinely. 627 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: That's a bad thing. And so you know, he was 628 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 3: promoted once during the first Trump administration, promoted again under 629 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 3: President Joe Biden, and he slipped through the cracks of 630 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: the this time around to command the seventh Fleet. But 631 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 3: there's a lot of great opposition from groups like Claremont 632 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 3: cra and others to show that to show the administration that, hey, 633 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 3: you know, the deep state of the military got one 634 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 3: past you. You know, it's okay, these are the first 635 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: light of promotions. But now we've got to reel it 636 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: back in. It's not too late. We don't have to 637 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 3: seat that officer as commander of the seven of the 638 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 3: seventh Fleet. We can put someone who is not interested 639 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 3: in politicizing the military in charge, because there are a 640 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: lot of great naval officers out there who are not 641 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 3: interested in promoting drag or paying drag means thousands of 642 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: dollars to perform on Navy ships. You know, this is 643 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 3: about restoring the principles of war fighting in lethality that 644 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 3: President Trump and Secretary Heckseeth have been talking about for 645 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 3: months now. You know, it's somewhat tragic that Admiral Donnelly 646 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: got caught up in this, but it is such an 647 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 3: important signal to send to the rest of the general 648 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 3: and thaw grate officer class that no longer will this 649 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 3: kind of politicization be tolerated, and it will cost you 650 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 3: your career because it used to cost you to your 651 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 3: career to be a conservative or to be pro life, 652 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 3: as it was for peter Pace under the Obama administration. 653 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: But now we're restoring the military to lethality and merit. 654 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 3: And that's why the story of Admiral Donnelly is so important, 655 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 3: because it's about the people you put in charge of 656 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 3: critical organizations like an aircraft carrier. 657 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 1: And well, just give me a few minutes. 658 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 6: You had a great peace following Operation Midnight Hammer, talking 659 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 6: about really what is I think a quite large vulnerability 660 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 6: of the United States. 661 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: That is, in terms of drug owns, particularly cheap drones. 662 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 6: We obviously dominate the you know, high tech five time 663 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 6: million dollars and. 664 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 1: Erroll type dro mark of it really cheap drones. Obviously 665 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: China dominates that market. 666 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 6: A lot of the dji hik vision those type companies 667 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 6: are rightfully so banned or on entity list or whatever blacklisted. 668 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: Here in the United States. But just walk the audience 669 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 1: through a few minutes. 670 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 6: I think it's important for them to know where we 671 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 6: stand on that front. 672 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 3: Right the article you reference, Natalie, you know, wrote one 673 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 3: in the American Mind and the Federalist is kind of 674 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: about moving forward past Operation Midnight Hammer. You know, a 675 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 3: lot of rightful I think consternation and discussion about that operation. 676 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 3: But what should be acknowledged, and I think people of 677 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 3: all foreign policy stripes can can agree on, is that 678 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 3: we used a massive fleet to accomplish that mission. We 679 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 3: used probably over half of our functional B two bombers. 680 00:36:54,160 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 3: We almost certainly depleted our ascu as your bunker busks 681 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 3: or stockpile by over half. We expended a ton of 682 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 3: military resources to make this happen, and that's not insignificant, right. 683 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 3: We have to make sure that we can project power 684 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 3: in other ways in other theaters. We won't always be 685 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 3: able to fly from Missouri to the Middle East and 686 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 3: drop these kinds of bombs. China, for example, has hundreds 687 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 3: of four dohs. What we need now is a massive 688 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 3: fleet of unmanned drones in the air and dot sea 689 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 3: who can provide for deterrence in lethality in multiple different spheres. 690 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 3: That means we have to rapidly expand our acquisition policies 691 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 3: to be more flexible and to account for all these 692 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 3: great startups that are building drones. Sectary Heseth's just signed 693 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 3: a memo today as a matter of fact that does 694 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 3: just that. But there's time is of the essence. Ukraine 695 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 3: and Russia each build fifty thousand drones per month. China 696 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 3: is ordering one million one way attack drones in twenty 697 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 3: twenty five. In the US, you know, we're just starting 698 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 3: to think in terms of quantities like five or ten 699 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 3: thousand a year. That's not enough, it's not fast enough. 700 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 3: We have to move so that no matter the theater 701 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 3: of war, no matter the kind of threat, we're ready 702 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 3: to confront it. Because although Operation Midnight Hammer was a 703 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 3: pretty stunning show of force, pretty incredible in a lot 704 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 3: of ways, it's not necessarily going to scale all the 705 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 3: time in other theaters of war. And that's I think 706 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 3: just the sober minded assessment of what our military needs 707 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: to look like into the twenty first century. It goes 708 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 3: back to the NDA, because the NDA sets the conditions 709 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 3: and the framework for what you know, military acquisition needs 710 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 3: to look like. So our service members have the weapons 711 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 3: that they need to deliver capability when it matters in 712 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 3: a way that's repeatable and enduring and in service of 713 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 3: the American interest. 714 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 6: How about this drones not drag shows. That's I think 715 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 6: the way for it. I'm sure you would agree, will 716 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 6: before we have you back on in the meantime with 717 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 6: the audience wants to stay update with everything you and 718 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 6: the team over there are working on. 719 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: Where can they go to follow you and. 720 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 6: Call their senators, members of Congress, get get engaged in 721 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 6: this very critical fight. 722 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm at William Tebow, you know, I'm a director 723 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 3: of the American Military Project at Claremont, a visiting fellow 724 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 3: at CRA. Check out those wonderful organizations because there's a 725 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 3: ton of great work that happens there. To again, keep 726 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 3: the military the military, make sure the institutional integrity is 727 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 3: something that serves the American people and not the other 728 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 3: way around. That's in a way that's disconnected from American interests. 729 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir for joining us. We'll have you back 730 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: on soon. 731 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope so. 732 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: Thanks of course. 733 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 6: And to link whatever you want to call it, that misprioritization, 734 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 6: I think that's probably too euphemistic a term. Frankly, the 735 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 6: outright sabotage of the United States military, whether it's drag 736 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 6: shows or depleting dronestocks, not having adequate numbers or a 737 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 6: number I always like to cite for every one ship 738 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 6: we build, China builds three hundred, not necessarily all military. 739 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 6: But you guys know very well the idea of the 740 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 6: concept of military civil fusion, so they all are essentially. 741 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: Dormant military vessels. 742 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 6: When you think about those USAID, those State Department, all 743 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 6: those bureaucrats right who espouse the idea that they're going 744 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 6: to sabotage President Trump, that they're going to use these 745 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 6: tactics to undermine the America First movement, really makes you 746 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 6: wonder how we got here right to a place where 747 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 6: America's national security, where we need to be opening up 748 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 6: mines in the eleventh hour because we don't have adequate 749 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 6: rare earth supplies so much so that China can run 750 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 6: circles around us in a trade war, and that we 751 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 6: have to essentially buckle and give them what they want 752 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 6: because we can't sustain life from the United States for 753 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 6: more than what a week or two, all by design 754 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 6: on both sides of the trade China and here in 755 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:52,919 Speaker 6: the United States. 756 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: Will be right back from Tampa War Room. Don't go anywhere, 757 00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 1: four room. 758 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 3: Use your Stephen k Man. 759 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Warroom. We are here live and Tampa. 760 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 6: Just ahead of turning points to Student Action Summit, which 761 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 6: you can't see below me, but there are hundreds of 762 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 6: young kids getting their lanyards, their badges, getting ready to 763 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 6: attend a bunch of breakout sessions and chapters to focus 764 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 6: on their campuses and their communities. 765 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: How to bring the turning point conservative America. 766 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 6: First, MAGA message you name It Home, which I think 767 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 6: is a wonderful thing, and I'm sure for those of 768 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 6: you who are maybe feeling slightly defeated right now, it's 769 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 6: a wonderful sight to see. 770 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're not much younger than I am, but 771 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: still even it gives me hope. Something else that gives 772 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: me hope. 773 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 6: So of course, people like Brandon Showalter and doctor Miriam 774 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 6: Grossman who join us now. Doctor Grossman, I want to 775 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 6: start with you on the heels of a wonderful event 776 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 6: hosted by the FTC, which has been doing wonderful work 777 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 6: really going after the transing course of America's youth walk 778 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 6: the audience through I think there's a link of people 779 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 6: want to watch it, but what exactly you guys did, 780 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,280 Speaker 6: And then Brandon will bring in. 781 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 7: Well, thank you Natalie for having me on. Yesterday really 782 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 7: was a watershed moment in this country in the fight 783 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 7: against the transgender industry. 784 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 3: And the reason I. 785 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 7: Say that is because it was the first time that 786 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 7: a government agency, the Federal Trade Commission, actually had an 787 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 7: entire day in which the microphone was given to the 788 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 7: victims of the trans transgender ideology, meaning young people, their 789 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 7: parents who have been harmed, and the doctors and therapists 790 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 7: and attorneys who are fighting. 791 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 3: Against the ideology. 792 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 7: Now, the point of the day was to discuss fraud 793 00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 7: and to uncover the fraud that's occurring day in and 794 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 7: day out regarding transgender ideology and the way that young 795 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 7: people are led to believe things that are just not true. 796 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 7: And for example, that they could be born in the 797 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 7: wrong body and that they need to have their bodies 798 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 7: medically and surgically altered in order to feel better. This 799 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 7: is an untruth. There's no evidence of being able to 800 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 7: be born in the wrong body, and when young people 801 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 7: in their families are sold that falsehood, it's fraud. Furthermore, 802 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 7: when they are encouraged that the only solution to their issues, 803 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 7: to their suffering, their mental health suffering, is to sign 804 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 7: up for hormones and other intervention, surgical interventions, that is 805 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 7: also false. 806 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 3: That is fraudulent. 807 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 7: So we have tens of thousands of people who have 808 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 7: been harmed by the fraud of the gender industry, and yesterday, 809 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 7: for the first time we had an entire day of 810 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 7: people speaking the truth and in a government agency. It 811 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 7: was amazing, and I really urge your audience to go 812 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 7: to the link. I believe that you have it there, 813 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 7: the FTC link, and you can watch the entire thing. 814 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 7: It's very disturbing that we've reached this point where so 815 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 7: many people have been wrongly pulled into these false beliefs 816 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,240 Speaker 7: about what is a man and what is a woman. 817 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 7: Sex is determined at the moment of conception, when the 818 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 7: sperm and the egg unite. You have either a male 819 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 7: or female life at that time that is permanent, that 820 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 7: cannot be changed. And those are the truths that we 821 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 7: need to come back back to in medicine. 822 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 6: Indeed, return to tradition, return to truth. Brandon, just give 823 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 6: us a few minutes on how this links to the 824 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 6: breaking news kind of about yesterday today what the DOJ 825 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 6: is doing to sort of complement this. 826 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 8: Yes one of the most encouraging developments from this FTC 827 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 8: workshop that doctor Grossman was a keynote speaker for in 828 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 8: the morning was Chad Maizell showing up Attorney General Pam 829 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 8: Bondi's chief of staff, and he announced there and it 830 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 8: has since been put out on the DOJ's website that 831 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 8: twenty subpoenas have been issued toward these clinics and hospitals 832 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 8: who have been involved in performing these mutilating surgeries on children. 833 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 8: And I just can't say enough how much I appreciate 834 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 8: Attorney General Bondi's statement that medical professionals and organizations that 835 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 8: mutilated children in service to a warped ideology will be 836 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 8: held accountable by this Department of Justice. And I can 837 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 8: tell you that doctor Grossman and other presenters yesterday at 838 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 8: this work shop provided ample receipts. There is so much 839 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 8: evidence of fraud, and of course the entire premise of 840 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 8: gender ideology is a fraud. It's fraudulent that you can 841 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 8: be born in the wrong body. So of course anything 842 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 8: I said this yesterday and during my panel, anything that 843 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 8: begins with a lie is going to do damage. But 844 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 8: there's now concrete evidence of so many crimes and healthy 845 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 8: wealst diagnoses fraudulent practices. And I'm looking forward to seeing 846 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,399 Speaker 8: what the FTC and the dojdo. 847 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: What a difference the year makes, all. 848 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 6: Right, real quick, We're coming up against the end of 849 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 6: the show, Doctor Grossman, if people want to follow you, 850 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 6: where can they go to stay up to date with 851 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 6: everything you guys are working on. 852 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,919 Speaker 7: I think the best place is probably my website, which 853 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 7: is Miriam GROSSMANMD dot com. 854 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 1: Thank you, ma'am. 855 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 6: The audience loves you and the work that you guys 856 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 6: are doing. And Brandon, where can people go for you? 857 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 8: Brandon mshow on x dead Namdocumentary dot com, Generation Indoctrination 858 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 8: dot com. I would just echo doctor Grossman's words and 859 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 8: now he the entire NPC workshop that has already been 860 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 8: archiding on their website. I sent it to your producer 861 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 8: so the war room posse can watch it in full 862 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 8: of theay so. 863 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: Desire, amazing. Thank you sir, Thank you the two of you. 864 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 1: The work you guys are doing. 865 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 6: Let's just hope, not hope, make it so use action 866 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 6: action action that Bondie brings the same justice and protections 867 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 6: for the kids who were victimized by Epstein and his 868 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 6: elite cabal type associates. Of course, before we jump for 869 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 6: our final guests, you can probably hear the young turning 870 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 6: point kids getting all excited. 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