Speaker 1: What's that at the bed.
Speaker 2: It's spooky.
Speaker 1: I'm jooky. I'm pretty sure it's dead.
Speaker 2: It's coming, it's way Wait a minute, Hell, I'm ghosted.
Speaker 3: Hiras dresss Hey boo, it's me Roz. Welcome to ghost
Speaker 3: It by rasdres Fales, and welcome to anyone that's new
Speaker 3: that's joining us. I should say hi to new listeners.
Speaker 3: I love when you guys find me and find the
Speaker 3: show and all my friends that are part of the
Speaker 3: Ghosted universe. In fact, we have somebody back on the
Speaker 3: show today, Chris Colfer, who is the prolific author and actor,
Speaker 3: and he was on a couple months ago and it
Speaker 3: is one of the most incredible episodes ever. He has
Speaker 3: so many stories, and this time he is joined by
Speaker 3: his best friend, the actress and amazing personality that is
Speaker 3: Ashley Fink, and so we talk to them. They have
Speaker 3: a lot to say on this topic. But I should
Speaker 3: apologize here at the top. We you know, it's been
Speaker 3: almost two years of this pandemic, if you can believe it.
Speaker 3: And I'm still recording from home, and we recorded this
Speaker 3: over zoom and you hear the show every week. It
Speaker 3: usually sounds pretty good.
Speaker 1: This time we had a little bit of audio problem,
Speaker 1: so I apologize. It's just you know, zoom stuff, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound as good as it often usually does.
Speaker 1: So I do apologize for that, but you get used
Speaker 1: to it, you know, after like a couple of minutes,
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, you know it's fine, but the stories
Speaker 1: are great. The stories are there, and you're gonna love that.
Speaker 1: If you are new to the show, Hi, I'm Raz.
Speaker 1: I use she her or they them pronouns, and every
Speaker 1: week I have on celebrities, comedians, sometimes drag queens, and
Speaker 1: paranormal professionals and even listeners like you. You could be
Speaker 1: on the show too. In fact, I want to do
Speaker 1: a listener episode soon, so send me an email at
Speaker 1: ghosted by Raz at gmail dot com with the subject
Speaker 1: line listener episode, and just give me bullet points. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't always read everything, every little detail, but you know,
Speaker 1: just give me like a little idea of what your
Speaker 1: stories are about, and hopefully we can have you on
Speaker 1: sometime soon. Okay, I'm going to keep this a pretty
Speaker 1: brief intro, but there's one thing that I wanted to
Speaker 1: tell you about and show you. It's kind of a
Speaker 1: visual thing, but I was checking my emails and listener
Speaker 1: Katherine sent me. Thank you Catherine for sending me this
Speaker 1: something I have not seen yet. It is a realtor
Speaker 1: dot com listing and it's you know which I love.
Speaker 1: I love looking at relator dot com, Zillow, all these
Speaker 1: I love looking at houses. And you look at this
Speaker 1: house and you're like, oh, yeah, it's a nice house.
Speaker 1: It's in Kentucky. You go through all the pictures. Oh
Speaker 1: oh a kitchen, oh a living room, Oh nice, okay, great,
Speaker 1: and then you get to picture twenty, and in picture
Speaker 1: twenty you see what appears to be the most terrifying
Speaker 1: ghost I've ever seen. I don't know the story of it,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna include the link to what I'm talking
Speaker 1: about in the description of this episode. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: it's scary because you're gonna get a picture twenty. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, wait, I don't say anything. Then you
Speaker 1: zoom in you look. It is so scary. So check
Speaker 1: that out in the description of this episode. Also there
Speaker 1: you could find a link to my Patreon Patreon dot
Speaker 1: com slash whiles DRez Valles on my second tier. This week,
Speaker 1: I do have a bonus clip from these two where
Speaker 1: we talk about past lives. We talk about a lot
Speaker 1: of things. We get some amazing stories. I mean, these two,
Speaker 1: these two need their own podcast. I mean, you just
Speaker 1: they can talk about anything. They make it so interesting
Speaker 1: and fun whatever the topic is. And we do talk
Speaker 1: about some various paranormal phenomenals. What else do we talk
Speaker 1: about time travel? We get into wija boards. It's just
Speaker 1: a short clip, but it's good and it's a great
Speaker 1: way to support this podcast, and I love you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Okay, anyway, let's just get into it. Here
Speaker 1: is me talking to return guess, Chris Colfer and Ashley
Speaker 1: Think on with the show. Oh my god, you guys,
Speaker 1: we have an absolute fan favorite back and this time
Speaker 1: he brought his Gael pal and I am I can't
Speaker 1: wait you guys. We are joined by Chris Colfer and
Speaker 1: Ashley Think.
Speaker 4: Hello, Bhie, I didn't realize I was a fan favorite.
Speaker 1: I'm so honored, Chris, are you kiting me? You brought
Speaker 1: the story. I mean, it's a perfect episode when the
Speaker 1: last time you were on. But actually you are like
Speaker 1: no offense to every single human being I've ever met,
Speaker 1: but you are like the most likeable person I have
Speaker 1: ever my entire life, and I feel that you whatever
Speaker 1: you got for us today, I know it's going to
Speaker 1: be a I gotta.
Speaker 2: Get it right. Wow, that was a glowing review.
Speaker 1: Well, I was thinking, you know, it's funny because after
Speaker 1: Chris Thather you were on Uh is this paranormal? I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I've like run into you it a
Speaker 1: few times, and like right after you were on, I
Speaker 1: mean shortly after I ran into you guys at a
Speaker 1: wedding which I had no clue that you guys would
Speaker 1: be there, and we had a great time, and you
Speaker 1: had the best time.
Speaker 2: You were the highlight. You were. We had the best
Speaker 2: time that night.
Speaker 4: You see, I knew you were you were going to
Speaker 4: be there, and I stopped you.
Speaker 2: Chris is stalking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm because your podcast is my favorite podcast.
Speaker 4: So I'm I'm I'm ordering the line of fatal attraction here.
Speaker 4: And we'd also seen all the oh yes yeah and
Speaker 4: Sheet Juice and you've been a fan of ros for
Speaker 4: a long time, long time.
Speaker 2: Chris was just fully stalking.
Speaker 1: And then you came to the live that I did.
Speaker 4: That was so much fun. You really put on an
Speaker 4: amazing show. Absolutely terrifying.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: That bit about the haunted doll was hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, thank you. I do love my haunted dolls. Ashley.
Speaker 1: Are you scared of this stuff?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I was so honored when you asked me to
Speaker 2: come on with Chris here and could never say no
Speaker 2: to either one of you. However, this is I don't
Speaker 2: know that I'm your ideal guest. I am. I am
Speaker 2: absolutely like, no, thank you, I'm good. Please do not
Speaker 2: contact me aliens. You have the entire universe. You don't
Speaker 2: need to be in my bedroom.
Speaker 1: Other options okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I also feel like I definitely have a
Speaker 2: sense for you know, beings and ghosts and all the things,
Speaker 2: but I'm just not so open to it, which is
Speaker 2: possibly why they choose me, because I'm always like no, no,
Speaker 2: thank you, keep a pushing. I'm sorry, little girl. She
Speaker 2: is in deep.
Speaker 4: Denial, but don't worry. I will get the stories out
Speaker 4: of her.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm very witchy. I have a lot
Speaker 2: of intuition, but at the same time, I'm very very
Speaker 2: reticent to acknowledge it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they find you, could they find me gently? Yeah?
Speaker 4: We've been in places where like things have happened together,
Speaker 4: and Ashley will just bolt out of the room, yeah,
Speaker 4: shaking her head like, nope, nope, that did not just happen.
Speaker 4: Did not just happen? Nope, nope, no, nope. We were
Speaker 4: on tour and the Glee tour a million years ago
Speaker 4: and we were staying at the Savoy Theater in sorry,
Speaker 4: the Savoy Hotel, which is next door to the Savoy
Speaker 4: Theater in the West End in London. And uh, we're old,
Speaker 4: very old lot of history there. I mean like it's
Speaker 4: been it's literally been there since like the thirteen hundred,
Speaker 4: so there's a lot of energy. And as I got
Speaker 4: a knock on my door at the middle of the
Speaker 4: night on one night, it was Ashley and she had
Speaker 4: to sleep with me that night because her chandelier in
Speaker 4: her room distarted spinning or shaking for no reason whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was nothing. There was no windows, there was
Speaker 2: no air conditions, no heating. It just I was laying
Speaker 2: there and it just started moving and moving and moving,
Speaker 2: and I just grabbed my stuff and I got the
Speaker 2: f out. I was like, not today going to Chris's
Speaker 2: room bad.
Speaker 4: Of course, So I was like, oh my god, we
Speaker 4: gotta go back let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But the thing is ghosts are in love with well
Speaker 4: I'm so pale. They think I'm one of them.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, that's fun.
Speaker 1: Wait, so your mind goes to that's the ghost, Ashley.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. I'm like very aware. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: hello and nice to see you. I hope you're well. Goodbye.
Speaker 2: I will be this is your space, not mine, and enjoy.
Speaker 4: Yus you and your journey.
Speaker 2: Goodbye.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Actually, growing up, we had a ghost in our house,
Speaker 2: so we just all referred to as Bernard no fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you see, I knew, I knew this had happened.
Speaker 4: The blood gates are open, here comes the store.
Speaker 1: This is what I thought, what happened to Wait, So, Ashley,
Speaker 1: you grew up in a hat just so.
Speaker 2: Known and like our stealing fans would sort of go
Speaker 2: where lights would turn off and things would go missing,
Speaker 2: and we all just were kind of like, oh, Bernard.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: But I was always very ups very fearful. If it'd
Speaker 2: be in the shower the lights would go off of
Speaker 2: like Bernard. Not today, I'm not the one, you know.
Speaker 1: How did you come to the conclusion that it was Bernard?
Speaker 2: I don't know. We just named I just named him
Speaker 2: Bernard intuition felt like a Bernard energy.
Speaker 1: I don't know, just Bernard.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I couldn't tell you. I just totally
Speaker 2: had repressed that memory until right right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think about all last night.
Speaker 2: I was trying to think of my ghost stories because
Speaker 2: I knew we were doing this, and I didn't even
Speaker 2: think of Bernard until right now.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. See, that's what happens. There's so many
Speaker 1: people that, you know, I go around town ask people
Speaker 1: who's got a ghost story? And some people were like,
Speaker 1: not really, And then if you really think about it,
Speaker 1: you know, you really have to sit there and think
Speaker 1: about it. And there's probably a lot of situations. And
Speaker 1: I always think, how many times have you encountered a
Speaker 1: ghost that you right?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I will say honestly me zero, because I think
Speaker 4: everything is a ghost? Or are you or UFO? I
Speaker 4: think everything is a UFO. Yeah, that's happened. Yeah, There's
Speaker 4: there's been times I made actually turned down the street
Speaker 4: just so I could chase after a star.
Speaker 2: It's covering, it's going up and covering.
Speaker 4: Actually swear it is moving.
Speaker 1: It's I know. I'm always looking up. I'm like, is
Speaker 1: that it is this my day tonight tonight. But although
Speaker 1: I did have that experience when I went to Sedona,
Speaker 1: and I do believe that I saw unexplained things flying
Speaker 1: up in the sky. Really, that's because I was asking
Speaker 1: for it. That's like, you know, I went looking for UFOs,
Speaker 1: but I want to see one out in the wild.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So tell me a story I want to hear, Ashley.
Speaker 1: Let's let's hear what we got from you. So we
Speaker 1: just got a couple of quick ones.
Speaker 2: I don't know what which story? Do you know my
Speaker 2: story is better than I do.
Speaker 4: Uh. There there was a time that I was a
Speaker 4: really bad day, and uh Ashley showed up the next
Speaker 4: day she baked cookies using my deceased mother's cookie recipe
Speaker 4: because my mom had come to her in a dream
Speaker 4: and told her to make these kinds of cookies for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4: And they were like, there are these oatmeal chocolates cookies.
Speaker 4: I have never told anyone in my whole life about
Speaker 4: about them. But but then it was so it was
Speaker 4: so crazy that I was having such an awful day
Speaker 4: and then my mom came to you in a dream
Speaker 4: and said, you have to make these specific type of cookies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not it's not like a normal chocolate chip.
Speaker 2: It's like an oatmeal chocolate chip meal raisins normally the thing, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have. I'm terrible. I'm a bad sleeper. I have
Speaker 2: been my entire life. The Dems get me at night.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: Beautiful, Grammy nominated. I thank you for that, Chris, We're
Speaker 2: so lucky. No, And so I have like I have
Speaker 2: sleep paralysis. I have night terrors. I wake up gasping
Speaker 2: for air and things are always trying to get me
Speaker 2: and I but I've also had super I would feel
Speaker 2: like my most visitation from people that I've lost or
Speaker 2: people that I know have lost, have been in dreams.
Speaker 2: It happened super frequently to me. And yeah, that's maybe
Speaker 2: when they can catch me because I'm not so on guard.
Speaker 2: And his mom just came to me, uh clear as
Speaker 2: day and was like Chris having a really hard time,
Speaker 2: and whenever he was having a tough time as a kid,
Speaker 2: I would make him his favorite, which are these oatmeal
Speaker 2: chocolate chip cookies. You have to make him these cookies.
Speaker 2: And I woke up when I was kind of like
Speaker 2: that was such a vivid dream that I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: listen to it. And I made these cookies and I
Speaker 2: brought him over and he'd like, I feel like you
Speaker 2: almost started crying and you were so surprised, and and
Speaker 2: it wouldn't it turnout down even be your favorite cookie?
Speaker 1: But it was.
Speaker 4: No, it was my mom's favorite cookie. Yes, I had
Speaker 4: never liked them. Yeah, I which which if you if
Speaker 4: you knew my mom, my mom was a lovely woman.
Speaker 4: That was so something she would do. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: So that that even made it even more.
Speaker 2: Like it had to be real, because of course it
Speaker 2: was the cookie she always made me. It wasn't even
Speaker 2: your favorite, but was no.
Speaker 4: I'd always ask her please take the omil out, yeah,
Speaker 4: because who who wants that cookie?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh yeah? And so I it was that was
Speaker 2: like a that was definitely I felt super Your mama
Speaker 2: definitely come to see me. And my childhood best friend's
Speaker 2: brother passed away really tragically, and we had sort of
Speaker 2: been not out of touch but what we dated for
Speaker 2: five years and it didn't end so great. So we
Speaker 2: hadn't been talking that often. And his brother died really tragically,
Speaker 2: and I was in my apartment all alone at the time,
Speaker 2: and I'm just sitting on my couch. I look in
Speaker 2: my kitchen and his brother was just standing there looking
Speaker 2: at me like and it wasn't even that I could
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a corporeal form. It was just I
Speaker 2: looked over and I was like, oh hi, oh gosh,
Speaker 2: and he was like, you know Eric, who was my
Speaker 2: child with the best friend. He's like, he's not okay.
Speaker 2: I need you to call him, like he needs you,
Speaker 2: any anybody he needs right now. It's you, like, get
Speaker 2: over your pride and call this guy you communicated with.
Speaker 2: It just it just I didn't talking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again ran to your house.
Speaker 1: You were away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just sitting on my couch and I felt
Speaker 2: I was awake. I was just sitting on my cat. This.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this wasn't a dream, that this mom was
Speaker 2: a dream. I'm sorry. I was this another time I
Speaker 2: just thought of I was sitting. Yeah, I was sitting
Speaker 2: on my couch and I was all alone. I had
Speaker 2: a cat. And I looked over in my kitchen and
Speaker 2: there was just this energy of my childhood friend's brother
Speaker 2: who had grown up with I mean, he taught me
Speaker 2: how to drive, like we had been very close, and
Speaker 2: how he had passed and he was just kind of like,
Speaker 2: you got to you gotta get in touch with Eric's
Speaker 2: while your pride. Call him up. He needs you right now.
Speaker 2: And I was absolutely terrified, and I ran out of
Speaker 2: my house and I went to Chris's house and I
Speaker 2: told him and he was like, well, you got to listen,
Speaker 2: and I did. I called up Eric and we've been
Speaker 2: really close ever since. So we did a whole documentary
Speaker 2: about dealing with loss, and I think it helped him
Speaker 2: a lot. And yeah, I totally credit his brother for
Speaker 2: coming through. And it's interesting. So I've had I've had
Speaker 2: my experiences. I'm not completely closed off to it, but
Speaker 2: it does. It's very it's scarcely.
Speaker 1: It seems like you're some kind of medium. You might
Speaker 1: have some abilities where I don't know, nobody knows how
Speaker 1: it works, but it's almost like, uh to these people
Speaker 1: are like, you know, she's again you being so likable.
Speaker 1: They're just like, maybe you know I can talk to her?
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, I I mean, I definitely believe in a
Speaker 2: spiritual realm. I I I do feel I know I've
Speaker 2: had too many things happened that couldn't be coincidental. So
Speaker 2: but yeah, I need gonna to be a little less
Speaker 2: afraid and a little more open. But then once you
Speaker 2: open those floodgates, goodness, I already have too many people
Speaker 2: counting on me.
Speaker 4: That's what you're there.
Speaker 1: It is well, or it could be that you're playing
Speaker 1: hard to get and they like that.
Speaker 2: Oh right, they're like cats. They're like the one that
Speaker 2: ignores us. They want to talk.
Speaker 1: Because that's my problem that I always talk about is
Speaker 1: that I'm thirsty for it at this point, and these
Speaker 1: ghoasts are like, uh, we're good.
Speaker 2: We don't want to on Blast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Dad, They're like, we don't want to
Speaker 1: end up on your podcast, Like we don't want you
Speaker 1: to spill all the tea about us. We just want to.
Speaker 4: Say so, I'm sorry you were dead. You're not allowed
Speaker 4: to have standards.
Speaker 2: I feel like Chris is the same way. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think Chris is very intuitive, but he's had so
Speaker 2: many moments where you've picked up stuff and and then
Speaker 2: later it's confirmed. And I know, but I do think
Speaker 2: you you're so eager for it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: By the way, Rosie, you you can't see her right now,
Speaker 4: but Ashley, as she's talking about this is manically folding
Speaker 4: and unfolding and and and and caressing a scarf like nervously,
Speaker 4: like like it's pretty funny to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I yeah, you know, I guess I yeah, I
Speaker 2: need to be more comfortable with it.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Okay, I've thought about this now,
Speaker 1: maybe people wouldn't say this is paranormal. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but like the people that come into your life, like
Speaker 1: best friend connections or even dating, like falling in love
Speaker 1: with people that there's it's like a destiny thing or
Speaker 1: it's is it some kind of intuition. I don't know
Speaker 1: what how you explain that, But so interesting that you
Speaker 1: brought that up too, Like the people that come into
Speaker 1: our lives.
Speaker 2: It's so true because I mean even Chris and I
Speaker 2: now that you say that, Chris was, can I tell
Speaker 2: the story about cal State Fullerton? Oh? Yeah, please? Yayh
Speaker 2: Chris was got glee at eighteen, but he had just
Speaker 2: graduated high school and he was planning on going to
Speaker 2: cal State bullertin and had done a big tour there.
Speaker 2: They have a great, gorgeous new theater and he was
Speaker 2: excited about going.
Speaker 1: There and then wait, sorry to interrupt, I was really
Speaker 1: wanting to go there.
Speaker 2: Oh, way.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and we're like the same age.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And my uncle, I think is the head of
Speaker 2: the television and film department.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: It has a lot to do with the arts program.
Speaker 2: And I go to all the shows I've guest taught
Speaker 2: in his classes, and so Chris. Had he not gottenly
Speaker 2: and we hadn't met that way, it's a very large
Speaker 2: chance we'd have still cross paths at my in my
Speaker 2: uncle's department at cal State Fullerton. It's so weird, Like
Speaker 2: it's like I think it was like we were going
Speaker 2: to meet no matter what which way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and maybe we would have met you there.
Speaker 2: Ross.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to make this about me.
Speaker 2: It's true, though, it's true. It's interesting, like you have
Speaker 2: this little soul cluster. Yeah.
Speaker 4: They say people they people reincarnate in soule groups. Like
Speaker 4: it's it's not it's not just you know, an individual
Speaker 4: like you you you you know, you you choose to
Speaker 4: reincarnate with that with the people you love.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: That sort of makes the idea of passing away less
Speaker 2: scary too, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, totally. I think talking about this stuff really
Speaker 1: takes away my fear of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, did you hear what Betty White said. I
Speaker 4: mean not not not recently, but she like an old
Speaker 4: interview she gave like like three or four years ago,
Speaker 4: recently came back into the you know, into the circle
Speaker 4: of things there, and she was They're asking her point
Speaker 4: blank like are you afraid of dying? And she said no,
Speaker 4: because when I was younger, my mom Betty White's mom.
Speaker 4: I'll put it, put it this way where it's like,
Speaker 4: no one really knows what happens when you die, but
Speaker 4: like anytime someone dies, oh they know the secret. And
Speaker 4: that's so sweet, like to put it in that in
Speaker 4: that in that way anyway, I saw that.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 4: I know, what a what a what a wonderful woman.
Speaker 1: Did you guys ever cross paths with Betty White?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: I worked with her many times.
Speaker 1: I thought, you did, did you do hot in Cleveland
Speaker 1: or something?
Speaker 2: They did?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And I she was she was the best, and I
Speaker 4: was I was just in love with her and would
Speaker 4: just sit by her and listen to her stories and
Speaker 4: and and she she always like, oh, this gay boy
Speaker 4: wants golden girl stories. I'll give it to him.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 4: But I was I was so lucky because when I
Speaker 4: worked with her, I was also working with that Carol
Speaker 4: Renette very close. So when when they would start talking
Speaker 4: and start like reminiscing work, I know just I would
Speaker 4: like to just curl up with a blanket and Just
Speaker 4: and Just I would just be in heaven.
Speaker 2: So yeah, she was.
Speaker 4: She was wonderful and she was she loved animals so much.
Speaker 4: And she almost got me in really big trouble because
Speaker 4: she tried to convince me to sneak my golden tree
Speaker 4: for the onto the CBS right for a lot.
Speaker 2: Cooper would have loved that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I did a movie called You Again, like gosh twelve
Speaker 2: thirteen years ago, a long time ago, and she was
Speaker 2: in it and I was a small little part, and
Speaker 2: they invited me to the rap party because they were kind.
Speaker 2: And I was there with Jamie Lee Curtis and all
Speaker 2: these people, and I was so star trek star trek
Speaker 2: no starstruck. Gosh, this fifteen years ago, it's a long time.
Speaker 2: And I was in line and she was right next
Speaker 2: to me. I was like, oh my goodness, can I
Speaker 2: get you something? And she goes, well, I only drink
Speaker 2: white wine or chilled vodka straight. And I was like well,
Speaker 2: let's start with the wine and see where the day
Speaker 2: takes us. Like it was so incredible, and she was
Speaker 2: so kind, and she was so casual, she was so sweet.
Speaker 2: She was really rusty and is yeah, I hope she's
Speaker 2: drinking chill vodka straight.
Speaker 4: And now I just I hope there's a bar in
Speaker 4: heaven there.
Speaker 1: So okay, Chris, when the last time I saw you, well,
Speaker 1: one of these recent times they saw you, you said
Speaker 1: that you had another story, like something recently happened, right, yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I It's funny. We we talked for like
Speaker 4: an hour and a half last time I was on
Speaker 4: your show, but we still didn't get tell my stories.
Speaker 1: Well, you are always invited here anytime something happens.
Speaker 4: I thought one of the best stories that I'm actually
Speaker 4: I was actually kicking myself that I didn't get to
Speaker 4: you last time. Was this this this this one time
Speaker 4: I was on a book tour and I was staying
Speaker 4: in Columbus, Ohio. I can't remember what hotel it was,
Speaker 4: but uh, every time I would walk from the bed
Speaker 4: to the bathroom, I would pass a closet in my
Speaker 4: in my hotel room, and every time I'd walk past
Speaker 4: this closet, I'd hear a knock on the door every time,
Speaker 4: and I and I convinced myself, because I really wasn't
Speaker 4: too into all of this back then, but I convinced
Speaker 4: myself it must be like my room must be like
Speaker 4: next to the laundry. Shoot, and like laundry just keeps,
Speaker 4: you know, bumping the wall every time I walked by it.
Speaker 4: But it just kept happening, happening every time, like every
Speaker 4: time I walk, I walk by, and you know, I
Speaker 4: have to peel a lot during the night. So it happened, happened.
Speaker 4: I kept ignoring. I kept ignoring, and then finally I
Speaker 4: was in I was in bed, and I was awoken
Speaker 4: by just the sound of coming from that from that closet,
Speaker 4: and I I don't know what came over me, but
Speaker 4: I just I just remember I screamed, knock it off,
Speaker 4: and it then it never happened again. But then the
Speaker 4: next day I woke up and I did some research
Speaker 4: on the hotel and uh, apparently there was this huge
Speaker 4: fire in like the twenties during a wedding and thirteen
Speaker 4: people died in that hotel. I'm not sure if it
Speaker 4: was on the floor that I was on. But but yeah,
Speaker 4: that was that was that was. That was a really
Speaker 4: crazy experience.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, first of all, the curse of
Speaker 1: being an night time pier is when you're terrified of
Speaker 1: ghost I have that as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just hold it in case something's in here
Speaker 4: with me.
Speaker 1: I've definitely had those moments. But we don't have to
Speaker 1: get into it where I'm like, there's I'm afraid I'm
Speaker 1: going to see a ghost. So we're going to just
Speaker 1: get through the night. Anyway, Enough about me and my
Speaker 1: pea habits.
Speaker 2: No, I love that. I'm glad Chris is a fellow peer.
Speaker 2: I'm the opposite.
Speaker 4: I'm like, camel, we're hydrated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just go, yeah, I hold this. That's so
Speaker 2: funny because I was actually just in Ohio visiting my
Speaker 2: grandmother and we went to this restaurant and hotel that
Speaker 2: was from the eighteen hundreds that had all these old
Speaker 2: presidents and all these old people. It's been around forever.
Speaker 2: It's like the oldest hotel in that part of the country.
Speaker 2: And we were eating lunch at the restaurant and they
Speaker 2: were like, you have to take a tour of the
Speaker 2: hotel because they've preserved presidential sweets and like all these things.
Speaker 2: And so I walked to the second floor, and I
Speaker 2: instantly felt this energy and I was like, oh, this
Speaker 2: place is haunted, like half joking, but like dead serious,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I was like, there's some
Speaker 2: intense energy, and me go buy all these rooms. And
Speaker 2: then there's all these I was like, all these little
Speaker 2: toys and all these portraits of like people who have
Speaker 2: stayed there, and I was like, wow, this is so haunted.
Speaker 2: And I look up and there's this painted portrait of
Speaker 2: this little girl named little Daisy. I have a photo
Speaker 2: of it. It's absolutely terrifying, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this this is the one. She absolutely comes out of
Speaker 2: this painting at night and runs this place like this
Speaker 2: is her hotel and we're all just living in it
Speaker 2: jokingly to my cousins and all my family, and everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 2: actually he Hollywood type HG.
Speaker 4: Yeah, head ghosts in charge.
Speaker 2: I got it. That's funny. And then I go downstairs
Speaker 2: and my grandma was downstairs with my aunt and she
Speaker 2: was like, oh, did you did you go upstairs? Like
Speaker 2: what did you guys seem like. I was like yeah,
Speaker 2: And she's like, it's so interesting because there's this legend
Speaker 2: here that there's this ghost of a little girl who
Speaker 2: walks the halls at night. And I was like no.
Speaker 2: I was like, there's no, and everyone like looked at
Speaker 2: me and sort of gas was gasped. They were like
Speaker 2: what because out of all the portraits, out of everything,
Speaker 2: I have a picture in my camera role I was
Speaker 2: afraid to take you. I didn't really want her in
Speaker 2: my phone, but I took it anyway, and I was like,
Speaker 2: of all these things, like that's the sort of intuition.
Speaker 2: I was like, this little girl is one hundred percent here.
Speaker 2: And then apparently it's this legend that everyone knows about,
Speaker 2: and it was like, oh man, she's definitely there. So
Speaker 2: a little Daisy at the Golden Lamb in Ohio, I
Speaker 2: saw you.
Speaker 1: Where is her movie?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my gosh, it's yeah. She was not a
Speaker 2: happy ghost. No. No, I think it could be kind
Speaker 2: of fun to be immortally terrorizing people and hotels.
Speaker 4: I would want to be a child forever though.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know well. I also have this belief
Speaker 1: that a lot of people share where high high traffic
Speaker 1: places like a hotel sometimes or theater, energy that people
Speaker 1: are bringing in, like it just it sticks there. You know,
Speaker 1: if someone is is going there and there they have
Speaker 1: a fight with the people that they're with, maybe that
Speaker 1: energy sticks around, or they have a great time. It
Speaker 1: sticks around, like you know the vibes.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's very that's just very scientific too. Where energy
Speaker 4: just stays. You can't you know, you can't, you can't
Speaker 4: destroy energy. It just it just it either stays or
Speaker 4: moves on to something else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. It actually just texted me, is this.
Speaker 2: That's that's a little daisy.
Speaker 4: The photo?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: God, is that not kicky?
Speaker 2: I was. I was literally like, she comes out of
Speaker 2: this picture and.
Speaker 1: She's got the ring lit curls, she's holding some flowers,
Speaker 1: and she has a roughly dressed I'm sorry, but roughly
Speaker 1: dresses a little girl ghost uh uniform.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And that was so like joking and trying to make
Speaker 2: everybody laugh, but like absolutely serious. And then cut to
Speaker 2: like there's a ghost that's a little girl ghost who
Speaker 2: roams these holls. I was like, oh no, oh.
Speaker 1: Goodness, oh my god, you guys. You yeah, so casually
Speaker 1: just like dropping so many good little Cory nuggets here,
Speaker 1: Uh what else? What else have we got?
Speaker 2: Chris is definitely your guy for this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm totally like, I totally segued into
Speaker 4: something else, but you were asking me to talk about
Speaker 4: the story that I told you at Fortune's wedding that
Speaker 4: happened recently to me, where I like, I I do
Speaker 4: suffer from sleep proalysis, like like like I'll just be honest,
Speaker 4: where there are many times like well, I'll like I'll
Speaker 4: wake up and like and like you know, like half
Speaker 4: my brain isn't isn't awake, so I'm just like laying
Speaker 4: there as if I'm in a coma. And sometimes I'll
Speaker 4: like I'll like try to breathe really really hard to
Speaker 4: wake up my boyfriend and hopes that he wakes me
Speaker 4: up from the sleep proalysis, but you know, we'll sleep
Speaker 4: through nuclear bomb, so that never works out. But very
Speaker 4: there are many times in my life where I've woken
Speaker 4: up and I've seen something at the foot of my bed.
Speaker 4: All every time that that has happened has never been
Speaker 4: the sleep prowl sys sensation where where I feel stuck
Speaker 4: and I'm just like I'm immobile.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: And the most recent one that happened was I woke
Speaker 4: up the mill the night and there was this this
Speaker 4: woman standing at the foot of my bed. She had
Speaker 4: a dark curly hair, and she's wearing a black dress
Speaker 4: with a white collar, very like kind of like Coco
Speaker 4: Chanel esque, and she was standing there was another figure
Speaker 4: standing to her right, and I could not make out
Speaker 4: it was too dog. I could not make out any
Speaker 4: features on that one. But the woman was just looking
Speaker 4: at me, and she was just shaking her finger at me,
Speaker 4: like like like saying no. And I had no idea
Speaker 4: who she was or what time period she was from.
Speaker 4: But what I think happened was I had a guardian
Speaker 4: angel that broke up with me, and I think I
Speaker 4: think she had brought her a journey.
Speaker 1: In case it gets messy, in case.
Speaker 4: It got messy. But that that's literally the only because
Speaker 4: she did not look like any She did not look
Speaker 4: like any relative I've had, or any relative that I
Speaker 4: of anyone I know. Uh, but yeah, and it was
Speaker 4: it was very strange. And at that point, like I like,
Speaker 4: I like I sat up, uh and and just like
Speaker 4: stared stared at them. They lasted like I'd say, probably
Speaker 4: a good like thirty seconds before they faded away and.
Speaker 1: They just kind of dissolved.
Speaker 4: It's kind of just kind of faded. Yeah, just like
Speaker 4: like a like aaybo. Sorry, I don't know why, I'm
Speaker 4: like a broken Pandora station today.
Speaker 1: Did they look like humans, like, you know, yes, through
Speaker 1: them or what?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Definitely human?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I I couldn't really make out the man,
Speaker 4: but he was kind of hunched almost like almost like
Speaker 4: almost like a not hunchback, but like like he was
Speaker 4: just like honey.
Speaker 2: Weighing any sort of decisions like should I do this
Speaker 2: or should I do that?
Speaker 4: No, no, she was just not not that week. No no, no,
Speaker 4: no no no, right, I know and I'm not she's
Speaker 4: giving me a complexever, whoever it was.
Speaker 1: You should talk to your psychic friend about that.
Speaker 4: I know, I knew too. I I haven't seen her.
Speaker 4: She's she's been she's been in Michigan for a while.
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, I will I'll bring I will bring
Speaker 4: it up next time, next time we have Chinese food.
Speaker 1: There you go, and this one was in your home
Speaker 1: and you've never seen this woman any other time.
Speaker 4: Never seen this woman in my life before or not
Speaker 4: even a photograph, not not nothing just just but but
Speaker 4: but there she was and she was just she's just
Speaker 4: telling me no, yeah, maybe maybe she's trying to tell
Speaker 4: me that I need to say no more in my life, right,
Speaker 4: mar Mark.
Speaker 2: What else for you? I mean, you're you've met a
Speaker 2: lot of mediums and didn't you.
Speaker 4: Just yes, we went to Rachel's estabus his house for
Speaker 4: a like a winter solstice like reading, and it was
Speaker 4: I had so much fun do Yeah, And Rachel is
Speaker 4: so so gifted and and just like I I I
Speaker 4: love her because she's so and and I think Ross
Speaker 4: will completely agree with me because I loved her episodes
Speaker 4: on this podcast and she's just so articulate about about
Speaker 4: it all. And that's that's that's sometimes like psychic's get
Speaker 4: a bad name because a lot of them are very
Speaker 4: you know, airy and you know, like very you know,
Speaker 4: non age of Aquarius, you know, kind of but but
Speaker 4: but but she was just very just very factual and
Speaker 4: and and yeah, it was it's I'm so Ross, thank
Speaker 4: you so much for introducing me to her. I think
Speaker 4: she's so she's just so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you met her at the live show.
Speaker 2: But she could tell that I was afraid of her.
Speaker 1: She's like the good, the good person, like she knows
Speaker 1: the way the bad.
Speaker 2: Exactly I should. She is actually who wanted to get
Speaker 2: close to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. She's a good person to have in your phone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in case there is a demon crawling. Yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: at night.
Speaker 2: I think I was too afraid she was gonna look
Speaker 2: around me like demons they're everywhere.
Speaker 4: I mean that every day.
Speaker 1: I know. No, but she's so incredible. Anyone that's listening
Speaker 1: to this, if you don't know our H Savius or
Speaker 1: Rachel H. Davids, she has been on this podcast many times,
Speaker 1: and she is an exorcist and also she has a
Speaker 1: lot of medium abilities and I actually I don't think
Speaker 1: I talked about it on this show when when that happened,
Speaker 1: but she had like a small little seance and and
Speaker 1: that was another time I didn't know you were going
Speaker 1: to be there, and then I showed up and you
Speaker 1: were there, and she gave a group reading and it
Speaker 1: was incredible, and uh, from what people from people's reactions,
Speaker 1: she is incredibly accurate about the things that she was saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's the real deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah you tell Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I think I think she's she's so sweet because
Speaker 4: she doesn't consider herself a medium. But I'm like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, if you don't consider yourself a medium, Like, then,
Speaker 4: what is a medium?
Speaker 1: You know, Ashley? I think Ashley is the medium.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the reluctant medium. Yeah, yeah, I know. Gosh,
Speaker 2: it's so funny.
Speaker 1: Well, you guys, should we just listen to some ghost voices? Yes?
Speaker 4: You know this is the part. Whenever I'm listening to
Speaker 4: your show, I have to turn it off because it
Speaker 4: scares me so much, especially if i'm driving and I'm alone.
Speaker 4: When you when you get to the EVPs, I'm always like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta click next. It can be creepy,
Speaker 4: but actually I'm not alone Ashley sitting next to me,
Speaker 4: So I'll be brave.
Speaker 2: I'll protect you.
Speaker 1: Okay, then let's do it.
Speaker 2: It's time for evase.
Speaker 1: So you guys already know how this works. I go
Speaker 1: to YouTube and I look for electronic voice phenomenal ghosts
Speaker 1: speaking that people believe they have captured. And I got
Speaker 1: some good ones today, I believe. The first one is
Speaker 1: from uh Para x Para Xplorer and Para Explorer project
Speaker 1: on YouTube. And this is at the Queen Mary.
Speaker 4: Oh, oh my god, I took I took Ashley the
Speaker 4: Queen Mary for her birthday one year. It was a
Speaker 4: very self serving birthday gift. But we did. We did
Speaker 4: the haunted tours of the Queen Mary, so maybe we
Speaker 4: know that.
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go with some more. Now, how was
Speaker 1: the haunted tour at one of the most famous haunted
Speaker 1: places in the world.
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. I think the atmosphere, the air
Speaker 4: is way creepier than the tour we took, you know,
Speaker 4: like like I think I think the or like they're
Speaker 4: they're like trying to make it as cheesy as possible,
Speaker 4: but like I don't think they needed to, because it's
Speaker 4: like when they're taking you in that the room, it's
Speaker 4: like you, I'm sorry, you don't need you. We don't
Speaker 4: need to hear any stories. We can feel it.
Speaker 2: You know that metal swimming pool?
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god. I mean it's it's it's it's
Speaker 4: kind of like being on a on on the Titanic.
Speaker 4: I mean like it's it's very similar that just the
Speaker 4: blueprint of it all. And and maybe it was maybe
Speaker 4: we were there, maybe maybe you were Molly Brown and
Speaker 4: I was I was the rich, mean lady. But you know,
Speaker 4: did anything happen on Uh, nothing really happened, but you
Speaker 4: really can feel it and and I and the I
Speaker 4: would say, like they the stories are so creepy they
Speaker 4: don't really need to make they don't really need to
Speaker 4: add any theatrics to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was called I went to Salem in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: There's a those wax figures and stuff. But they're trying
Speaker 2: to like lean into the Lord.
Speaker 4: It's like you don't need you don't need to get
Speaker 4: but like there's like there, I remember there's one this
Speaker 4: this one section like where where they're they're talking about
Speaker 4: this this lady.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: They always they'd always see her walk through this this
Speaker 4: this wall in particular, and then like later they found out,
Speaker 4: oh this this this deck was remodeled and this used
Speaker 4: to be the hallway and so like her her spirit
Speaker 4: is trapped in whatever the original blueprint was. You know
Speaker 4: that to me gave me like chills. But it's things
Speaker 4: like that they don't need to like you know, they
Speaker 4: don't even have like an actor come out, you know
Speaker 4: as sheet.
Speaker 1: Then you know that's that's what they do do that
Speaker 1: like Halloween time. Oh, I've done tacular uh there, And
Speaker 1: I've talked to a couple of people that have you know,
Speaker 1: worked as actors on that, and I that is my
Speaker 1: worst nightmare to be, to be like standing in the
Speaker 1: in one of those haunted I don't know if they
Speaker 1: do it in the boiler room or where they do,
Speaker 1: but it's like sitting there waiting for people to jump
Speaker 1: out at and no thanks everywhere.
Speaker 2: What am I a joke to you? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Right, yeah right, I can't. I can't do Halloween haunted houses,
Speaker 4: I get, I know, just so crazy, it's so weird.
Speaker 4: I would rather go to an actual haunted place where
Speaker 4: I know no one's gonna jump out at me, like
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 2: To follow you home and haunt you forever.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, there there, that's always a possibility.
Speaker 1: Okay, So oh say.
Speaker 2: Sorry, honey, sorry, welcome to our friendship. I love that, adhd.
Speaker 1: Okay. So this one was in the first class lounge,
Speaker 1: which has also been called the Queen's Saloon, and it
Speaker 1: sounds like a young voice and tell me what to hear?
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, was creepy, right right? Just one more time?
Speaker 4: Do you need you need this car?
Speaker 1: Now? They were saying that in this YouTube video that
Speaker 1: the event that they were doing their there weren't any
Speaker 1: kids around her and.
Speaker 4: The girl yes, young.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you hear it and you go like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe it was just like a kid said something.
Speaker 4: It sounds like you're saying like I love you, or
Speaker 4: like you know I love you, or something like that.
Speaker 2: Do you play it one time?
Speaker 1: Of course? Okay, here we go, oh something like do
Speaker 1: you too? Here, we'll play it again.
Speaker 4: I've been watching you.
Speaker 1: Could be I've been watching you. Oh okay, here's some options.
Speaker 1: Is it a you gotta be kidding me, be you're
Speaker 1: not seeing me. See there are no kids in here?
Speaker 1: Or I got stuff to do.
Speaker 4: Okay, I would say yeah, but yeah, played again.
Speaker 2: Keep your mind.
Speaker 4: It's sun to sound like there are no kids in here.
Speaker 2: That's home. I kind of thought he or she said,
Speaker 2: you've got to be kidding me.
Speaker 1: You got to be kidding me.
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: What is the answer?
Speaker 1: B The answer is, see, there are no kids in here.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: The way they the way they wrote it, I think
Speaker 1: I said there are no kids in here. They believe
Speaker 1: it is there are no kids in here. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: play it again now that we know that.
Speaker 4: Yes, Oh my god, it's kind of like trying to
Speaker 4: understand Kenny on South Park.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's sort of what this whole entire segment is Okay,
Speaker 1: here's one more. Okay, this is from somebody on YouTube
Speaker 1: whose name is more Ritz. Uh and more more is
Speaker 1: m O R T I C and uh. This is
Speaker 1: at a really cool place I have never been, but
Speaker 1: I need to go in Detroit called the Whitney and
Speaker 1: it's like this old mansion and there's a restaurant. They
Speaker 1: even have a place called the Ghost Bar, and it's
Speaker 1: very famously haunted and old and beautiful.
Speaker 4: Have you Gray Stone man in Beverly Hills? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: we could go there together.
Speaker 1: I would love to. That's also very haunted.
Speaker 2: Oh go, I like to be included.
Speaker 4: I mean, someone's gonna drive.
Speaker 1: Okay, so uh what is this ghost saying?
Speaker 2: Quiz?
Speaker 1: Okay? Oh my whisper over? Like you can kind of
Speaker 1: hear people chattering in the background.
Speaker 4: Something like I'm behind you, but kind of a hissing sound.
Speaker 4: So it's like I'm standing behind Know that's too much.
Speaker 1: What's so creepy about it is that it's like right
Speaker 1: up next to whatever the Yeah, okay, let's do it again.
Speaker 2: Okay, I can I can smell you.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I can smell you.
Speaker 4: Take a shower.
Speaker 1: Would be so uncomfortable if you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like you're going to your ghost time, and you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sweating. I hope no one can smell me. It's fine,
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, the ghost is all
Speaker 1: I can smell you.
Speaker 4: Anti spirit okay, anti pir spirit?
Speaker 1: There it is merch merge, yes, okay, here we go.
Speaker 2: So something like.
Speaker 4: It's all you, it's on you.
Speaker 1: You well, okay, well that's one of the options I
Speaker 1: have here. Okay, really is A I'm a size too.
Speaker 1: They wanted you to know.
Speaker 4: I brag about that too.
Speaker 1: Yes, is it B, I'm sorry, is it C it's
Speaker 1: all you?
Speaker 3: Or D.
Speaker 1: I'm Sally, I'm going to see I'm gonna go see you. Okay,
Speaker 1: Here we'll play it again. Yeah, it's all you.
Speaker 2: That's so clear. You.
Speaker 1: Of course you brought it. I mean I knew you would,
Speaker 1: but I guess that's about it. I mean, unless I
Speaker 1: guarantee you guys have a thousand other stories in there.
Speaker 4: You know where to find us?
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll probably be behind you tonight.
Speaker 4: Around look over your shoulder.
Speaker 2: Knocking in a closet somewhere nearby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well tell everyone you know where to find you,
Speaker 1: and what's going on and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: We're not hard to find. We're we're yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, if you're at a party, we'll be by the bar.
Speaker 4: If we'll being the corner judging people.
Speaker 2: You'll find me in a Sophora or an alta new.
Speaker 4: You can find us on Instagram and on Twitter. Are
Speaker 4: you on Facebook? No, I'm not really in Facebook either. Facebook,
Speaker 4: but yeah no, uh, you know, we're a book story.
Speaker 4: You can find books at bookstores. That's that's my my
Speaker 4: main that's my main gig. When's the next book coming out?
Speaker 4: You're actually, oh, I can announce something. Uh you heard
Speaker 4: it right now and go say no, I'm working right now.
Speaker 4: I'm working on the tenth anniversary edition of my first book,
Speaker 4: the land Story is Wishing Spell. So that'll be coming
Speaker 4: out later this year, and I'm very excited. I can't
Speaker 4: believe it's been ten years and I can't believe it.
Speaker 4: I'm so excited to publish. You know, it's it's popular
Speaker 4: enough to warrant a tenth anniversary edition. So that's been
Speaker 4: a lot of fun. And it's gonna be illustrated, so
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a lot of it. It's really great.
Speaker 4: Can't wait. For the kiddos to get it.
Speaker 2: That's really exciting.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, congratulations ten years.
Speaker 2: That's incredible, crazy, And you'll find me at the bookstore
Speaker 2: putting copies of that book everywhere.
Speaker 4: God, God, blessed.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I guess that's it, so well.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having us. Yeah, thank you, adore you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you so much. To Chris and Ashley.
Speaker 1: The two of them are magnificent. I can't speak more
Speaker 1: highly of them. I just love them so much. And
Speaker 1: of course, if you want to hear a little bonus clip,
Speaker 1: go to patroon dot com slash whilst dress for us,
Speaker 1: link a description and listen to them talking about time
Speaker 1: travel and Ouija boards and past lives and all that
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Speaker 1: You can find me on Instagram at Roz Hernandez and
Speaker 1: I finally have started doing TikTok. I haven't gotten into
Speaker 1: spooky videos yet. Right now, I'm just being silly on there,
Speaker 1: but you know, I will be doing some spooky stuff
Speaker 1: and I want to be a TikTok star like the kids,
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Speaker 1: at ghosted by rosatgmail dot com with the subject line
Speaker 1: listener episode and brief bullet points of what your story
Speaker 1: are about. I think that's about it, so until next time,
Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.
Speaker 2: Hey bye.
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