Speaker 1: Worrying.
Speaker 2: Today's episode contains a lot of spoilers for a lot
Speaker 2: of different things across television and film, so just be warned,
Speaker 2: but you're gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 2: My name is Jascon Sepsion and I'm Wedsday Night and
Speaker 2: welcome back to the Extra Vision of the podcast where
Speaker 2: we dive deep to your favorite shows, movies, comics and
Speaker 2: pop culture. Coming from iro a podcast where we're bringing
Speaker 2: you two episodes a week every Tuesday and Thursday, with
Speaker 2: an extra episode on Wednesday most of the time.
Speaker 3: Yes, and this is an extra episode on a Wednesday
Speaker 3: for you. In today's extra episode, we are inviting the
Speaker 3: whole crew, the Panel, the Jedi Council, wherever you like
Speaker 3: to call them, the super Producers apart from a boo
Speaker 3: we miss you, we wire Shure here, but also we
Speaker 3: have the rest of the crew Carmen, Aaron, Joel, and
Speaker 3: they're all coming to celebrate characters.
Speaker 1: Who deserve their deadly end.
Speaker 3: This is the They Had It Coming episode, inspired by
Speaker 3: Maximus's incredible ending of the Nightmarish Commoduce played by Joaquin Phoenix.
Speaker 3: We're going to be in the gladiator training pit talking
Speaker 3: about our runner ups or deaths that brought a little
Speaker 3: relief to our spirits. Then we're heading to the Colosseum
Speaker 3: to discuss the character endings that brought us to our
Speaker 3: feet and earn the audience's thumb up. And then in
Speaker 3: the Thick They Had It Coming Hall of Fame, where
Speaker 3: we will examine several candidates still breathing.
Speaker 1: Who should be put six feet under.
Speaker 2: All fictional, of course, But first let's welcome the extras. Aaron,
Speaker 2: Carmen and Joel are your size ready?
Speaker 4: Are you ready?
Speaker 2: Are you ready to celebrate some dessols that must be reaped?
Speaker 3: Time, baby, everybody pull up your hoods and do some reepin.
Speaker 1: Let's start with our with our runners up, the list
Speaker 1: of our guests. Okay, yeah, you guys at Common who's
Speaker 1: your runners up? So?
Speaker 5: I love the movie fans Labyrinth, seen it many many times,
Speaker 5: and Captain Vidal, the Wow, terrible evil, terrible evil guy
Speaker 5: who needed to die.
Speaker 3: Definitely one of I think that's like an iconic if
Speaker 3: you were going to make a list of ten best
Speaker 3: had It Coming moments.
Speaker 1: He's definitely up that. He's definitely.
Speaker 2: I love that he didn't even get to finish whatever
Speaker 2: he was saying.
Speaker 1: Get him out of here. That's a great and that.
Speaker 2: Is a wonderful runner up. I can't wait to say,
Speaker 2: see who actually did want Aaron? Any notable runners up?
Speaker 2: My runner up is Nedrie and Jurassic Park. You know,
Speaker 2: not a great good one and his ahh, not the
Speaker 2: magic word, a lot of things that make you hate him.
Speaker 1: We got thoughts in here.
Speaker 6: See nobody cares his actual his death scene is just
Speaker 6: three and a half minutes of pure slapstick comedy.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 6: He falls down the waterfall, he loses his glasses, he
Speaker 6: bumps his head against the King signy, and at the
Speaker 6: end he's making fun of the dinosaurs and they ultimately
Speaker 6: cat him and he loses shaving cream can all around
Speaker 6: like an incredibly well getting.
Speaker 3: Up the Jurassic World franchise for many more years. I
Speaker 3: think this is like celebrating a death in a movie
Speaker 3: can be tough because sometimes they're very moving, but this
Speaker 3: one is absolutely comedic.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely cheering for the dinosaur.
Speaker 3: And it is also one of the most scary deaths
Speaker 3: in Jurassic Park because they have the paralysis. You're paralyzed first,
Speaker 3: and then you can't see because they spit in your
Speaker 3: eyes and.
Speaker 1: Then they're just yamming on you, like that's that's scary stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm scared of I'm scared of a dinosaur.
Speaker 7: There's so much love about this because one like, Okay,
Speaker 7: some does are satisfactory not for a person's actions but
Speaker 7: for their just general behavior. And this guy is so annoying,
Speaker 7: like he's just like not showing up at the job,
Speaker 7: slowing everybody down. His space is a mess. He's just
Speaker 7: like Mallow Jackson's really hard. Guys sound so hard his best.
Speaker 4: He just wants to ensure safety. Who is your runner
Speaker 4: up or runners up?
Speaker 7: Okay, so first all my runners up, I'm going Frank
Speaker 7: from Fried Green Tomatoes.
Speaker 2: Shout so shout out to my to a teenage crush,
Speaker 2: Mary Stuart Masterson and Mary.
Speaker 7: Yeah with Mary, Frank's a freaking asshole, like beat his
Speaker 7: pregnant wife jerk. Luckily lesbian to be lover was around
Speaker 7: the corner like, babe, absolutely not come back to Whistlestop,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna protect you. And not only does she protect her,
Speaker 7: eventually she's like, I'm just gonna barbecue this son of
Speaker 7: a bitch and.
Speaker 4: Feeds him to the sheriff.
Speaker 7: So the sheriff, can never solve it because who would
Speaker 7: admit they hate human and said it was the best
Speaker 7: barbecue they ever had.
Speaker 4: Frank's death that I've earned. And then so.
Speaker 7: Satisfactory massacre shit that I'm just saying, truly, truly not
Speaker 7: even a horror movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nope, I thank you. It was great. Then quickly
Speaker 4: burke from Aliens.
Speaker 7: Yeah again, another stabateur, another liar, another, another guy who
Speaker 7: kept telling a woman she didn't know what she was
Speaker 7: talking about. Absolutely deserved his death. Super satisfactory. Walder Frey
Speaker 7: liar woman over abused to a pregnant lady.
Speaker 1: Great cool, great cool. Listen, now, first, was he betrayed?
Speaker 4: First?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 7: Was his reaction to that betrayal overdone? Absolutely fuck Walter Frey,
Speaker 7: you got what you deserve. And because Aria one of
Speaker 7: her first assassins, like on her own list, which was
Speaker 7: really SHA's kiss, so great, love it.
Speaker 4: And then was a AJ firm Barbarian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, I'm so glad you put this up.
Speaker 1: What the fuck off? Just I dude, I.
Speaker 3: Will ever forget watching Bavarian in the cinema. And when
Speaker 3: he's like going Justin Long does such a good job.
Speaker 3: Like when he's going underground and he's like measuring, and
Speaker 3: he's like and he just keeps going under this terrifyingly
Speaker 3: creepy tunnel and all he cares about is does this.
Speaker 1: Add to the square footage of his house?
Speaker 3: The cinema was like in hysterics, Like he played it
Speaker 3: so well, and when he dies, I'm so happy every.
Speaker 1: Time I watch that movie, Everyone's who you got?
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm starting off with Emma Roberts as Jill
Speaker 3: in Scream four Boo, who she is such a.
Speaker 1: Good villain in this.
Speaker 3: She kills her little partner who she kind of in
Speaker 3: cell tricked into helping her out, and then when she
Speaker 3: actually finally dies, they do a great job of the
Speaker 3: news reports outside are like this woman, she's the new hero,
Speaker 3: She's the new Sydney.
Speaker 1: Which is what Jill always wanted.
Speaker 3: But inside, Gail Weathers and Sydney have teamed up to
Speaker 3: kill her and they say to I've got one last
Speaker 3: I've got one last thing to say to you, and
Speaker 3: she's like what, and she says charge and then get away.
Speaker 3: There's like fucking electrocutes her with the head in the
Speaker 3: head with those heart pump things. Very very distressing. But
Speaker 3: she had it coming. Also want to shout out Paul mccrane,
Speaker 3: who played a Meal in RoboCop. He's he eventually gets
Speaker 3: melted after killing Murphy and kind of torturing him because
Speaker 3: it's pul verho of a movie with lots of horrible
Speaker 3: gunshots to his body leading to him becoming RoboCop. And
Speaker 3: then as he's trying to get away drive he drives
Speaker 3: into some nasty nuclear waste that he melts. That's a
Speaker 3: really satisfying one. And of course I'm going to bring
Speaker 3: up which will perfectly lead into Jason's picks. I'm going
Speaker 3: to bring up Jeoffrey Barathium played by Jack Leeson. That
Speaker 3: is definitely like one of the best TV deaths of
Speaker 3: all time. You everyone was waiting for it. The whole
Speaker 3: international TV watching community was rooting for a child to die.
Speaker 3: And I don't think we've ever come together. He was seventeen, yeah,
Speaker 3: but he's still still a child, still a child to
Speaker 3: get married.
Speaker 8: In many states of the of the Union, everyone was
Speaker 8: everyone loved to watch him die from that poison pie.
Speaker 3: And that was when things released like Kicking Off and Gammocrats,
Speaker 3: And I just want to say congrats to Jack Gleason.
Speaker 3: Because you did such an incredible job with that character,
Speaker 3: and the fact that adults couldn't tell the difference between
Speaker 3: the two of you is ridiculous and I'm glad to
Speaker 3: see you maybe stepping back into the Hollywood Fray Jack Gleason,
Speaker 3: because you're very talented at Jason.
Speaker 2: What are your picks for my runners up from the
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones television program Ramsey Bolton, Oh my god.
Speaker 8: Television Knights in History that he's so scary, so scary, can't.
Speaker 2: Go wrong with this one Hitler Joseph Gerbel's arrested enough, high.
Speaker 1: Commanded and glorious divests that is truly.
Speaker 3: A cathartic movie, like good on Fantastics, like.
Speaker 2: An exale, not how history you know went off, but
Speaker 2: it was still you love. We can't have a dream
Speaker 2: in a in a film, Gus Fring and break just
Speaker 2: like you know, very clever and you love to see
Speaker 2: him go. And then finally, I'm gonna take a way
Speaker 2: back to a TV program of my childhood that I
Speaker 2: used to love to watch La law Ra's Shayes. She
Speaker 2: was like the evil, bad attorney Shark who tries to
Speaker 2: take over the law firm and then she just like
Speaker 2: calls an elevator, gets on.
Speaker 1: The She's about to take over the law.
Speaker 2: Firm, shed the The elevator doors opened, but the elevator
Speaker 2: doesn't arrive.
Speaker 4: She doesn't realize it.
Speaker 2: He steps into the shaft, goes plumbing.
Speaker 7: I love the universe, gotcha, the craziest that happens that
Speaker 7: I love.
Speaker 1: We got some good runners up there, guys. I'm excited
Speaker 1: about it, But we got to move on.
Speaker 4: We got to move on.
Speaker 2: But before that, before we really get into the grave
Speaker 2: with the skeletons that we love to see bouldering there, moldering,
Speaker 2: We're going to take a break, talk to our sponsors,
Speaker 2: and we're back. Okay, folks, welcome to the coliseum because
Speaker 2: it's time chop off some heads to give a thumbs
Speaker 2: down to various characters who we want to see take
Speaker 2: their last breath, give their last look, longing look towards
Speaker 2: their loved ones, and watch the blood slowly drain from
Speaker 2: their bodies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, often introduction, I think we have to start with
Speaker 3: Aaron's starting.
Speaker 2: The same Well, yeah, okay, fine, we'll start there.
Speaker 1: Who do you want to die?
Speaker 3: Aaron?
Speaker 1: Who do you want to die? Who has it coming?
Speaker 6: I just want to preface it with, I didn't know
Speaker 6: that the phrase was Who's going to die? I just
Speaker 6: thought it was who got who had it coming? And
Speaker 6: the person who had it coming had it coming. It's
Speaker 6: Spike in Little Giants and also this is also Kevin
Speaker 6: O'sha a little bit too, but Spike in particular, how's it.
Speaker 1: Coming, Aaron? You have been holding onto this for so
Speaker 1: long in your life. Let it go, baby, let it out.
Speaker 6: Spike number one comes to town Urbanaville, Ohio or whatever,
Speaker 6: and he refuses to play with the Little Giants because
Speaker 6: he doesn't want to be on a team with a girl.
Speaker 6: And then when he gets to the main game and
Speaker 6: the the pee Wee Cowboys are facing the Little Giants,
Speaker 6: his father urges him basically like a bounty gate game,
Speaker 6: and he goes out there and he's trying to knock
Speaker 6: Junior out. After the whistle, he like intentionally leads with
Speaker 6: his helmet, and we've got obvious health concerns. We have
Speaker 6: concussion concerns here. This is football, but also completely dirty,
Speaker 6: dirty and illegal play and a dick move. You know.
Speaker 6: Give a little bit of credit to Kevin O'Shea for
Speaker 6: like reprimanding his father and saying he can't do that again,
Speaker 6: but like a little too late there, of course, you know, famously,
Speaker 6: this is the play that gets ice Box back in
Speaker 6: the game. She comes in and then she just like
Speaker 6: levels him prevents him from scoring a touchdown. And then
Speaker 6: the last play of the game, the Little Giants are
Speaker 6: running their trick play and ice Box is the decoy
Speaker 6: ball carrier. Spike chases her down. I guess in pee
Speaker 6: wee football everyone's Travis Hunter, so they play offense and defense.
Speaker 6: So Spike's chasing her down for the tackle, which he
Speaker 6: requires the help of like three other teammates to get
Speaker 6: her down, and he stands over her and goes no mercy,
Speaker 6: and she's like, no ball. So I love that he
Speaker 6: has like a completely horrible catchphrase when he knocks her down,
Speaker 6: and then she responds with like an even worse one,
Speaker 6: and then grudy like is running with the ball, and
Speaker 6: we get the whole trick play thing.
Speaker 2: So did you let me just let's clarify, did you
Speaker 2: want you want a child to die?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 1: And you heard.
Speaker 2: Us also discussing our picks and what the show is
Speaker 2: about for thirty to forty minutes. Yeah, before we hit
Speaker 2: record and you didn't change her.
Speaker 1: Put Yeah, you were like, so I just want.
Speaker 2: You to own Yeah, so I just want you to
Speaker 2: own that a child hit little gus, a thirteen year
Speaker 2: old with like with a clear brain.
Speaker 6: Injury, yes, yeah, clear brain injuries. And then the other
Speaker 6: thing so no comment. But then also Kevin coach Kevin
Speaker 6: in the tryouts, I mean he cuts Icebox and her friends.
Speaker 6: Icebox is the best player on the field. Everyone knows
Speaker 6: that he cuts her because she's a girl, and he
Speaker 6: thinks the only thing she can do to help the
Speaker 6: team is be a cheerleader, which is horrible. But the
Speaker 6: scene that I want to call attention to is in
Speaker 6: the tryouts Icebox Becky knocks Rudy out and they take
Speaker 6: his helmet off and you see the you see like
Speaker 6: the blood and you're worried. It turns out it's as
Speaker 6: Berry Jelly or Pete Strawberry. Okay, he's got a peb
Speaker 6: and j in his helmet along with a bag of Cheetah.
Speaker 3: Feel Aaron, I feel like you are explaining to me
Speaker 3: like the deeplaw of like a Sunday Funnies comment.
Speaker 1: And then he had a peb and Jay under his head.
Speaker 1: This is incredible.
Speaker 3: Okay, Aaron, if they were gonna do like, you know,
Speaker 3: everything's out of license now, Winnie the Pooh, when Little
Speaker 3: Giants goes out of license in one hundred years, will
Speaker 3: you write a Little Giants like murder revenge story where
Speaker 3: Spike can die as an adult.
Speaker 1: It's like a legacy sequel and no comment. Well, back
Speaker 1: to the Murderers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, incredibly, well argued to Back to the Murderers, Carmen.
Speaker 1: Who is your top winner?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: For me, it's got to be Mason Berger from the
Speaker 5: Hannibal basically the whole what is it, Silence of the
Speaker 5: Lambs Hannibal, Red Dragon.
Speaker 1: Great pick.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So Mason Viger is just a really bad fucking guy.
Speaker 5: And he's this rich guy from ironically a meatpacking family dynasty,
Speaker 5: and uh he is one of Hannibal's patients and he's
Speaker 5: a kitty diddler and Hannibal doesn't like that, so he
Speaker 5: drugs with morals, Yes, hannibals morals.
Speaker 7: Hey, he's a pedophil, Like, he's just people to like
Speaker 7: her die and who can't get buying that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's he's like our original dexter. You know, he's
Speaker 5: out there taking revenge. So he drugs, Mason Berger has
Speaker 5: him cut his own face off, which I think is
Speaker 5: just iconic, so incredible, and then Mason Berger spends the
Speaker 5: rest of his life trying to take revenge on Hannibal.
Speaker 5: He eventually captures Hannibal trying to feed him to his bores,
Speaker 5: but then he gets fed and has one of my
Speaker 5: favorite movie endings of all time. So I was very
Speaker 5: satisfied and Gary Oldman great fucking job portraying Mason vere.
Speaker 3: I will also say the version of this that we
Speaker 3: get in the Hannibal TV show is also incredibly cathartic
Speaker 3: because they make Mason an even worse guy and we
Speaker 3: see him do all this terrible stuff to his sister.
Speaker 3: So when he eventually gets eaten, You're just like, I
Speaker 3: love this. Oh yeah, I'm I'm watching and I feel
Speaker 3: like being eaten by a pig has become quite like
Speaker 3: a classical movie.
Speaker 2: It's almost over, It's almost which is unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that could be something that was almost Overdomee Joel,
Speaker 3: I love this pic that you have.
Speaker 7: Who is next ins We're talking about one of my
Speaker 7: favorite films of all time, The Descent, which is about
Speaker 7: arids movie who take one of their best gals into
Speaker 7: the woods to do some cave diving because she's suffered
Speaker 7: a horrible tragedy. Her husband and daughter have died in
Speaker 7: a car crash, and they're.
Speaker 1: All there's belunking.
Speaker 7: It's a fun it's a fun pastime and applely okay,
Speaker 7: beautiful scenery, it's supposed to be a good time. But
Speaker 7: one person, Juno, is like, you know what, it's got
Speaker 7: to be extra fun. What if we did a whole
Speaker 7: cave system that has not been charted or explored, and
Speaker 7: we don't tell anyone where we're going. We'll discover it
Speaker 7: and that'll make us famous and successful.
Speaker 4: I guess when.
Speaker 3: They get you and splunking monthly, Like, what were you
Speaker 3: going for that, babe?
Speaker 4: I have no idea.
Speaker 7: So she gets down there and it's it's chaotic. People
Speaker 7: are injured rather quickly. They can't kill it with the
Speaker 7: way they went in.
Speaker 4: Literal goblins down there.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and she will betray, she'll betray anyone down that
Speaker 3: to protect to try and survive those monsters.
Speaker 7: Like she she's a dope, almost final girl, like the
Speaker 7: best character because she's like, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 4: I will live and I expect that about trade.
Speaker 7: What I don't respect is effing your best friend's man
Speaker 7: right in front of her face. Her child is present,
Speaker 7: crazy journeys with them, and then feeling so guilty about
Speaker 7: it that you lead all of your friends into an
Speaker 7: incredibly dangerous situation. When I tell you my girl got
Speaker 7: herself together, she was diving under bloody pools of water.
Speaker 7: She said, this bitch is going to die here today.
Speaker 7: I don't care as she kills her, and Juno's death
Speaker 7: is so satisfactory.
Speaker 4: She gets you get a.
Speaker 7: Great atl moment where her necklace gets ripped off. She's like,
Speaker 7: I know my husband gave that to you. I'm snatching
Speaker 7: that necklace back. Yeah. I had all men in my
Speaker 7: runner ups, but when women betray women, no death immediately
Speaker 7: horrible hate.
Speaker 4: You know, glad she died.
Speaker 3: Jason, who is your top winner in the coliseum, the
Speaker 3: most thick guy.
Speaker 2: I am going to take you back to the Walking
Speaker 2: Dead comics. I think great pedolist and the greatest of
Speaker 2: the major antagonists of that series is the governing many people.
Speaker 2: I'm sure many people are familiar with the Governor from
Speaker 2: the Walking Dead television program, and he was a bad guy.
Speaker 2: He was an evil guy.
Speaker 3: But I have a shadowed in the show by Megan,
Speaker 3: I think, whereas in the I agree governor is the scariest.
Speaker 2: The governor is the scariest guy. Megan was was almost
Speaker 2: I like, I enjoyed the nagan era, but it was
Speaker 2: almost a transparent attempt to one up the governor, and
Speaker 2: the governor was the worst.
Speaker 1: Let's just go through quickly some of some of his.
Speaker 2: Multiple grizzly murders, makes people, for like no real reason,
Speaker 2: fight gladiator matches to the death for the entertainment, just
Speaker 2: the rest of the people in town. Yeah, like there's
Speaker 2: actually like there's no justice thing. There's no like, oh
Speaker 2: this person, these are two thieves. There's nothing.
Speaker 3: It's just like also sexually assault, he's sexually I forget.
Speaker 1: I am so much Jason, I can't.
Speaker 4: Stop commits numerous violent.
Speaker 2: Sexuals like violent violent sexual assaults, including one in a
Speaker 2: room filled with aquariums that are that have human heads
Speaker 2: in them and what is the victim's ex lover.
Speaker 1: Sexually assaults.
Speaker 2: Mitchione kisses the corpse, the zombie corpse of his niece,
Speaker 2: which he had removed like the teeth from the jaw,
Speaker 2: and then French kisses his own yes, decapitated garrific zombie
Speaker 2: head murders Herschel, the beloved elder statesman, good guy is
Speaker 2: no fight left in him, has basically completely surrendered, executes
Speaker 2: him for no apparent reason, cuts off Rick's hand, and
Speaker 2: he does eventually get got. How does he get got?
Speaker 2: And pretty satisfying. It could have been more satisfying, I think,
Speaker 2: but just the fact that he died is great. Lily
Speaker 2: one of his followers who had tried to engineer a
Speaker 2: coup against him, which he found out. A governor finds
Speaker 2: out about it and basically weasels his way out of
Speaker 2: this coup situation. And then there's like a zombie attack
Speaker 2: and everybody's like, oh, well, we kind of need him now,
Speaker 2: so like let's all get him back, and there's a
Speaker 2: gunfight takes place. They're gunning down Rick and his band
Speaker 2: of survivors as they escape, right and Lily, one of
Speaker 2: the governor's followers, shoots a person who's carrying a baby, Judith,
Speaker 2: who is the infant daughter of Lord Grimes and the
Speaker 2: daughter that Rick was raising but not his biological daughter,
Speaker 2: and that person falls over and the baby is crushed
Speaker 2: under this The falling corpse, and Lily, who shot the person,
Speaker 2: blames the Governor for.
Speaker 1: This, and Jason's like, but it was not fault.
Speaker 2: I mean she shot the person, and like, I get it,
Speaker 2: but it is all of their fault below he needs
Speaker 2: to take anyway, whatever what happens next is great. She
Speaker 2: shoots the Governor in the in the brain and then
Speaker 2: kicks him into this pack of bobbies and they devour him.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: I wish she could have shot him somewhere where he
Speaker 2: could have been alive still as they devoured him. Either way,
Speaker 2: the Governor was a fucking nightmare. Truly one of the
Speaker 2: worst characters you've ever ever ever.
Speaker 3: He's always in the top one hundred, like evilist, comic
Speaker 3: book villain. He always makes it in that.
Speaker 2: Is doing the worst, worst, worst, worst ship. And that's
Speaker 2: just like in the present timeline when they do the
Speaker 2: flashbacks and you find out like how he became him,
Speaker 2: it gets even worse. Just a terrible guy and I
Speaker 2: love to see him go.
Speaker 1: That's it. I love I loved that pick. I just
Speaker 1: imagine if I had to go next and I was doing.
Speaker 2: Like a young man that there's a young man you
Speaker 2: might have heard of.
Speaker 3: People have been saying he should die for a long
Speaker 3: time because he didn't like a girl playing baseball, and
Speaker 3: who comes for that?
Speaker 1: Foll Okay, I'm going to go I'm football football, Yeah, football,
Speaker 1: I know sports. So it's all sports ball.
Speaker 3: There's a ball and you hit it. I don't know,
Speaker 3: BA basketball, you know all that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 3: I'm going to go for this is like, I guess
Speaker 3: it's kind of a cheap because hypothetically the creator has
Speaker 3: said the character is still alive. But I think at
Speaker 3: the end of season three it was very final. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go for Hannibal mad my love, and I'm going
Speaker 3: to go for him dying at the end of Hannibal
Speaker 3: season three when Will Graham tips him over the edge
Speaker 3: in a lover's caress, because you know what, I do
Speaker 3: love that show.
Speaker 1: And I do think they do a great job of
Speaker 1: making you root for Hannibal at times because he is
Speaker 1: killing annoying people or like and he's so lovely about it,
Speaker 1: and him and Will have this very toxic romance, but
Speaker 1: I will never forgive him.
Speaker 3: And it was truly cathartic for me to see this
Speaker 3: because by the end of the season, everyone's like shipping them,
Speaker 3: But Hannibal does one of the most nefarious things from
Speaker 3: all the human human eating and like making people eat
Speaker 3: us human flesh consensually.
Speaker 1: That's terrible humans. He is also like, you know, a
Speaker 1: serial killer.
Speaker 3: But the thing that I will never forgive him for
Speaker 3: is in like Hannibal Season one, Will Graham really is
Speaker 3: so bad. You know.
Speaker 1: Will Graham is really struggling, he is losing.
Speaker 3: Time, and he goes to the doctors with his boyfriend
Speaker 3: Hannibal Lecter, who is also his psychologist at this point,
Speaker 3: and he goes, Oh, I'm really struggling. I should get
Speaker 3: an MRI, I think, like, and Hannibal's like, do it,
Speaker 3: And then they go and get the MRI and they
Speaker 3: find out he has a en capholitis, which is like
Speaker 3: inflammation and infection of the liquid around your brain. Very serious,
Speaker 3: really sucks Anna. And you know what Hannibal does. He
Speaker 3: goes to the doctor and he's like, wouldn't it be
Speaker 3: sick if we just didn't tell him and then we
Speaker 3: could basically just.
Speaker 9: Like do a study of how it how.
Speaker 3: In catholitis and like brain disease would like hurt this man.
Speaker 3: And Hannibal does that to him for the whole first
Speaker 3: season and he gaslights him the whole time and tricks
Speaker 3: him into believing that he is the Chesapeake Ripper.
Speaker 1: And I've never forgiven him for that.
Speaker 3: Hannibal, Hannibal Willy to friend, Will loves you, and having a.
Speaker 1: Brain disease is no joke.
Speaker 3: Doctors are terrible enough, so don't be going in there
Speaker 3: and making a doctor gaslight a man when they will
Speaker 3: already do that for freehanded.
Speaker 9: He did, and I really liked that because then he
Speaker 9: was like mad the doctor did it, and I'm like, guy,
Speaker 9: it was your idea, Like this was literally faults, Like
Speaker 9: it was clearly you you should have you, like, how.
Speaker 4: Could you have done that?
Speaker 3: I was very I was sad but very happy when
Speaker 3: Will tipped him over the edge and it was done
Speaker 3: for them. But apparently, according to Brian Fuller, show creator,
Speaker 3: who I spoke to during a Hannibal reunion in season,
Speaker 3: he imagines that they're alive somewhere in like Cuba, just
Speaker 3: like chilling exactly and drinking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he caught a fly, and good for.
Speaker 3: Them, but I think it'll Hannibal always gets away. But
Speaker 3: also he did deserve to die in that moment, so that.
Speaker 7: Is my win soprano, Like, I was questioning whether we
Speaker 7: should because the showrunner essentially has been like, yes, Tony dies,
Speaker 7: but you don't see it, and you have no idea
Speaker 7: if you're just watching.
Speaker 4: Like what's actually going to happen? He's just like, but
Speaker 4: then we see it.
Speaker 7: This is a difficult thing to put on, but I
Speaker 7: appreciate you leaning into it. I mean, like, you know,
Speaker 7: if I had Cannon dead.
Speaker 1: If he's dead, he's dead.
Speaker 3: And also, this actually is really good because this is
Speaker 3: going to lead perfectly into our last segment, which you
Speaker 3: will get to listen to after a message from our sponsors.
Speaker 3: How I back, Hey, hey, hey, the next question, which
Speaker 3: I guess I could have used Hannibal for this, but
Speaker 3: I'm sticking with my decision. Who should be six feet under?
Speaker 3: But still George best?
Speaker 1: Aaron? Are you going to pick Spike again? I don't know.
Speaker 1: He isn't dead yet, but he could be. Jason, why
Speaker 1: don't you start this time?
Speaker 2: I think this is a pretty easy pick for me.
Speaker 2: The Homelander kill the Bolls, Please God, he should have
Speaker 2: shuffled off already in my season to agree. Yes, but
Speaker 2: it'll be a great day in TV when he does
Speaker 2: shuffle off. That's going to be a Jeff reader along
Speaker 2: dam levels people cheering it on.
Speaker 3: I think, I hope, I hope it's satisfying. I hope
Speaker 3: they understand what the people want to see. That's a
Speaker 3: great pick common what about you? Okay?
Speaker 5: I gotta go with and big time spoiler alert for
Speaker 5: those of you who have not read or watched the
Speaker 5: mini series on HBO's Sharp Objects if you If you haven't,
Speaker 5: it's an amazing watch.
Speaker 3: Put your AMFS on right now so you don't get boiled,
Speaker 3: because it is an incredible one.
Speaker 5: But I have to go with Camille's sister, Alma Ellen,
Speaker 5: who in the very last episode is revealed to be
Speaker 5: the one who has been you know, murdering, torturing all
Speaker 5: of these horrible things in the town where she's trying
Speaker 5: to kind of solve these murders, and uh, and I
Speaker 5: just want her to suffer. She put her mom in prison,
Speaker 5: She she torturally bullied and and just was like one
Speaker 5: of the most sociopathic, true sociopathic characters, and she got
Speaker 5: away with it. They moved to a new city and
Speaker 5: she has her little her little dollhouse and her her
Speaker 5: sister walks in and looks at her doll.
Speaker 1: Yes, her trophy house, her baby. Yeah.
Speaker 5: She walks she picks up those teeth and she's like,
Speaker 5: what the fuck And her sister walks in and is like, oh.
Speaker 1: You found you on.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite things about this So the HBO
Speaker 3: series is incredible.
Speaker 1: And when you picked it.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I Amma, Like, that was such
Speaker 3: a good reveal because you don't expect it the whll
Speaker 3: way through it. Oh my se did It's it's a
Speaker 3: big twist.
Speaker 1: Was hilariously.
Speaker 3: I was like, what does the internet say about Amma Kreline, Like,
Speaker 3: and on the Villain's wiki, my favorite thing is they
Speaker 3: have a picture of her in the swimming pool and
Speaker 3: she's like doing a little smile and underneath somebody went
Speaker 3: to the point of adding a caption that says Amma's
Speaker 3: evil grin.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, I love that. Yes, this is
Speaker 1: That's when you know she's up to something. That's when
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 7: She's like she gives that smile a lot. There's a
Speaker 7: part where she's like leading a bunch of teen girls
Speaker 7: like through the woods. You're like drinking and they're like
Speaker 7: and you know what's about her? Yeah, and she gives
Speaker 7: the smallest smile and you're like, what is up with
Speaker 7: this girl?
Speaker 4: She's so weird.
Speaker 7: But maybe they play it like, oh, she's just a
Speaker 7: teenager who's acting out like she's pretty and popular, and
Speaker 7: she just is acting out a little bit. And you
Speaker 7: think her mother is such a jerk because the main character,
Speaker 7: the detective, hates her mom. She doesn't want to come back,
Speaker 7: she doesn't to speak to her mom. And you're like, man,
Speaker 7: that mom is bad, she's awful. She look at what
Speaker 7: she turns her daughters into. Of course, the younger daughter's
Speaker 7: like acting like this, the mother's a monster. You're like,
Speaker 7: oh god, she's my god. Great pick, amazing pick, absolutely, And.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, speaking of innocent Saren, who's
Speaker 3: on the death list?
Speaker 6: I feel like my choices give away that I don't
Speaker 6: watch horror movies or horror TV. So my pick for
Speaker 6: the thick Hall of Fame who's still technically alive is
Speaker 6: Jafar from Aladdin.
Speaker 3: And true he needs to die. Put him back in
Speaker 3: that fucking time machine. What other things cooled my machine?
Speaker 3: What movie are you watching? My main issue with Jafar
Speaker 3: is he clearly can think on his feet. He comes
Speaker 3: up with things pretty quickly. He can react to things.
Speaker 3: He's just not very smart.
Speaker 6: So Jafar spent all this time plotting and planting queen.
Speaker 6: He wants to be sultan. He becomes sultan within five
Speaker 6: minutes of becoming sultan. He's been tricked into using up
Speaker 6: another wish for like one little level up to become
Speaker 6: a sorcerer. And then he's a sorcerer and then everyone's
Speaker 6: trying to.
Speaker 1: Beat him, and that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 6: And here here are here's like actual I went back
Speaker 6: and rewatched the scene and here are the actual words
Speaker 6: that he says.
Speaker 3: Here we go.
Speaker 6: First he goes, u uh uh, princess, your time is up,
Speaker 6: and then he traps her in an hourglass. And then
Speaker 6: he says, don't toy with me, and he turns a
Speaker 6: boo into a toy monkey. And then he says things
Speaker 6: are unraveling fast, now, boy, and he unravels the carpet
Speaker 6: and then he says, get the point, and he drops.
Speaker 1: A row of swords in front of a laddin.
Speaker 6: And then he says I'm just getting warmed up, and
Speaker 6: he breathes fire. As we all know, comedy is best
Speaker 6: in groups of what is that five?
Speaker 1: He can coo, famous, famous ruler five.
Speaker 6: He comes up with these puns and none of them
Speaker 6: are that good. I like her time is up and
Speaker 6: trapping her in the hour glass like that was the
Speaker 6: first one that was pretty good. But then to just
Speaker 6: be tricked into becoming a genie, and then that's how
Speaker 6: he's defeated, like he really fumbled it. Uh so I
Speaker 6: just disliked his plan. Basically, you thought he was a
Speaker 6: bad plan, so you should think he should die.
Speaker 4: Yes, I tried to pin up Jasmine so evil.
Speaker 1: He will say he was an evil guy. You don't
Speaker 1: have a job to do to die. Elin shouldn't be
Speaker 1: a Robin and daven.
Speaker 4: Breaking an entrink Ja he shares his brand.
Speaker 3: He can a worrying ton, A worrying ton to the right,
Speaker 3: Jason Jesson's like no stealing, no Jafa.
Speaker 1: But the real truth about Jeff I feel bad for
Speaker 1: the guy. He needed to go. He didn't get locked
Speaker 1: in a bottle. It's sad. But also I will say,
Speaker 1: you know what, Jaffa was very good.
Speaker 3: I should have focused his attention on fashion because when
Speaker 3: he wishes, when he wishes his own fashion is good.
Speaker 1: And when he wishes to become the Sultan you can fire.
Speaker 3: And also when he puts Jasmine in that sexy little outfit, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the best outfit, you know. So I'm saying maybe
Speaker 3: he should have focused on that, But you're right. I
Speaker 3: do think it's definitely Disney loves to He could have
Speaker 3: been a designer, could have had some support if you know,
Speaker 3: they had that in Agrabar House of jaf.
Speaker 1: Aaron, I actually think you are correct.
Speaker 3: And I do think that in a realm where Disney
Speaker 3: loves to kill an evil character like Gaston or something,
Speaker 3: I do think it's kind of weird that Jaffa is
Speaker 3: like technically alive.
Speaker 1: And I think the second Aladdin movie.
Speaker 3: Is called Return of Jafar, so they say to kill him,
Speaker 3: wouldn't have had to deal with that again.
Speaker 1: Wow, how about you?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 7: I have what may be considered a controversial choice. I
Speaker 7: love Bob's Burgers. Guys great, My favorite TV show is
Speaker 7: so cute, and it's the whole show was based on
Speaker 7: the premise of like, life is just difficult, but if
Speaker 7: you are like stick close to your family, you can
Speaker 7: get through and usually find pockets of joy.
Speaker 4: What a delightful thing to just.
Speaker 7: Tune into for me almost every day Bob's burgers slowly.
Speaker 7: Who is the stick in the mud ruining purposefully those
Speaker 7: little pockets of joy?
Speaker 4: It's freaking Jimmy Pesto.
Speaker 7: And he's across the street and at every single turn
Speaker 7: he's like, you know what, I'm just gonna laugh at Bob,
Speaker 7: like he just oh oh, Bob stuck to the.
Speaker 4: Toilet when he's over there.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying.
Speaker 7: I'm Hannibal on the Just be polite, okay. All you
Speaker 7: have to do is be nice to the person standing
Speaker 7: next to you. It's not that freaking hard. And when
Speaker 7: people go out of their way to be cruel, I
Speaker 7: can't stand it. Really burns me up. I think Jimmy
Speaker 7: Pesto deserves to die. I will love it if we
Speaker 7: can off his character. His kids will be better off.
Speaker 7: He don't spend no time with them, don't like them anyway.
Speaker 7: His restaurant sucks. Bring in a new restaurant.
Speaker 4: I was like, I.
Speaker 7: Would like to see Missus Pesto come down stairs one
Speaker 7: day and be like, actually, Jimmy, we're divorced, were running guy?
Speaker 7: Or she could kill him, just like just like I
Speaker 7: have one murderous on the show.
Speaker 4: I'm I would the second one coming up.
Speaker 3: Okay, I will with pro women who kill guys, pro
Speaker 3: women who kill We love women's wrongs, we love women's rights,
Speaker 3: and actually speaking of women's rights and women's wrongs, I
Speaker 3: am gonna pick.
Speaker 1: I was gonna. I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: Oswald copp Old Ossie cop Hey, Mai Ma, But you
Speaker 3: know what, hey ma, We we know he's gonna die.
Speaker 3: We we know we know, we know he's not gonna die.
Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna be I'm like, he's not gonna die. Sadly,
Speaker 3: he's too fantastic. Jason's gonna beat up Colin Farrell, put
Speaker 3: him back in that suit, and Peng the penguin will go.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go a different way.
Speaker 3: I last night watch the Oscar Buzz movie A Noura
Speaker 3: in an absolutely packed cinema Century City.
Speaker 1: It was full, like you're watching an MCU movie.
Speaker 3: When the sex was happening, the kids were going crazy,
Speaker 3: and the the It was a very interesting experience.
Speaker 1: And you know who I want to kill, who I
Speaker 1: think needs to die.
Speaker 3: And because the movie did have like a Safty Brother's
Speaker 3: Uncle Jam's kind of vibe, I think they could have
Speaker 3: done it. I'm killing Vanya from Anora, who is the
Speaker 3: Russian oligarch child that she ends up getting married to.
Speaker 3: And I will say, this, motherfucker, I hate him. And
Speaker 3: you know what, he's so fantastic in the movie, the
Speaker 3: kid who plays him. You so believe the charm, you
Speaker 3: so believe everything else. But when it comes down to it,
Speaker 3: he leaves Annie in the dust. He leaves out to
Speaker 3: be assaulted, tied up, and yeah, she's a queen.
Speaker 1: Mikey Madison's a queen. And Anora gets out of it.
Speaker 3: But I gotta say, van Ya, if it was up
Speaker 3: to me, you would be getting the Uncle John's death
Speaker 3: and Annie would be walking away with the money Uncle
Speaker 3: Johm's style. So you are the one that I want
Speaker 3: to see he gone from the fictional universe.
Speaker 4: That's a that's a great to kill list. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: It is a wonderful and as we have reaped so
Speaker 2: many souls, most of us anyway, how many souls have
Speaker 2: reached so many deserving souls today, Aaron still will as
Speaker 2: we close this episode and and go our separate ways,
Speaker 2: keep the the agonizing death of a child.
Speaker 1: Septence his mind.
Speaker 2: Harmon as hard as he goes throughout his day.
Speaker 6: I realized I failed to because Rosie, as you mentioned
Speaker 6: return of Jafar, I just looked it up and he
Speaker 6: dies in return of.
Speaker 1: Future episode. No, Aaron, this is incredible. This is impressible.
Speaker 3: Also, I own Return of Jafar Aladdin too on VHS,
Speaker 3: so we we'll have to watch it and see if
Speaker 3: his death is cathartic.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's a really good one. Maybe it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope he has a fabulous quip.
Speaker 2: It's been wonderful having the full crew here to celebrate
Speaker 2: the necessary culling of evil people from our pop culture population.
Speaker 2: On the next few episodes of X ray Vision, we're
Speaker 2: diving into stuff.
Speaker 1: Stuff. That's it for this episode.
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