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Speaker 1: to who is coaching them, because I'll go back to

429
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Speaker 1: because the player that I kind of alluded to but

430
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Speaker 1: I can make the case for and against would be

431
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Speaker 1: Eric Ebron. Eric Bron would SA can maybe eight nine,

432
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 1: ten by the Detroit lines never lives up to it

433
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 1: he goes to Indianapolis. Indianapolis, Frank Brich says this out

434
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 1: of his mouth. He's like Lebron James on the back

435
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 1: side of the formation. It's like playing ice so ball.

436
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 1: Everyone has to pay attention to him and he creative.

437
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: Then he played at a pro Bowl level in any

438
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Speaker 1: decides to go to Pittsburgh and does this thing whatever.

439
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 1: But that sticks in my mind because you think about

440
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Speaker 1: Frank Brich and how respective Frank Bright is for what

441
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Speaker 1: he's been able to do from an offensive standpoint. Man

442
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: that matters. And so if you think about cal Pitts

443
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,120
Speaker 1: being your Lebron James and then you have Julio Jones

444
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,199
Speaker 1: and Calvin Ridley and I would urge them in the

445
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,239
Speaker 1: top of the second round if they go that route, Man,

446
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 1: get you a big time running back, because now offensively

447
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 1: you're ready to go. And maybe you're the Brooklyn Nets,

448
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, maybe maybe you're one of those

449
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 1: teams that can just score from all over and put

450
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 1: points up or whatever, because it is I mean, it's

451
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 1: it could be a problem trying to figure out how

452
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Speaker 1: you going to match with the Falcons when you have

453
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 1: so many guys that can did dictate double teams or

454
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: can absolutely wear out single cover. I'm gonna read you

455
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Speaker 1: something here, book. This is because I know, I know

456
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Speaker 1: some people have kind of You've talked about the improvement

457
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 1: with with the Pits, but I think some people, and

458
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 1: trying to push back on him, have kind of come

459
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: with come put out there like this is a Johnny

460
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Speaker 1: come Lately situation with Pitts. So I'm gonna read you

461
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Speaker 1: this here. I see a lot of similarities to the

462
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Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders Darren Waller when I study Pits. Waller

463
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 1: played wide receiver during his college career Georgia Tech. Pitts

464
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: these plenty of reps on the outside for his offense.

465
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: Both guys can really stretched the field and their length

466
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: creates huge targets for their quarterbacks. They can eat, use

467
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: their speed to create separation on deep crossers, and they

468
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 1: pull away from defenders after the catch. Waller is still

469
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 1: improving in the run game, and I expect he'll see

470
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Speaker 1: similar games from Pits as he gets bigger and stronger. Overall,

471
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Speaker 1: Waller is one of the top tier tight ends in

472
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Speaker 1: the game today. I see similar upside with Pitts. I

473
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Speaker 1: wrote that in July so that was that you could

474
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Speaker 1: see this stuff coming together with this kid, and he

475
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Speaker 1: got better as a blocker this year at Florida. So

476
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I think some people this is not

477
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Speaker 1: This is not Johnny you know, fifth rounder who bolted

478
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: himself up to a top five packages you know what

479
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,479
Speaker 1: I mean? Like that, Let's let's get rid of that narrative.

480
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: You know, he's definitely not just what I call a guy.

481
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Speaker 1: He's a talented player. He has unique traits. He plays

482
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Speaker 1: like a wide receiver out on the perimeter, and you're

483
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: not able to cover him with corners safety is a linebacker.

484
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: He's a very very difficult matchup, and if you're not

485
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Speaker 1: one of those teams who was invested in a hybrid,

486
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Speaker 1: you have a tough time figuring out how are we

487
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Speaker 1: going to treat him when he's on the field, Because

488
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Speaker 1: if he can just do a little something as a

489
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Speaker 1: blocker where they can put him next to the tight

490
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Speaker 1: end and have a credible running game with him on

491
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Speaker 1: the field, then it's really a problem, you know, because

492
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: then you really have to treat him like a why

493
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Speaker 1: And it's already tough enough to match up with him

494
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Speaker 1: when you categorize him as a flex. But if he

495
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Speaker 1: has just the ability to be a serviceable blocker, that's

496
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Speaker 1: when it's really a matchup problem. All right, I want

497
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Speaker 1: to go to the next conversation here, and this is

498
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Speaker 1: what You're not gonna be able to make it to

499
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Speaker 1: the whole draft. But this is a discussion I think

500
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: that's taken place in a lot of different teams. So

501
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a the teams there. Cincinnati's one

502
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: of them, U the Chargers would be one of them.

503
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: The Jets would be one of them. Oh gosh, I

504
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: would say Chicago is another one. Indianapolis could be another one.

505
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: So these are teams faced with this decision. Book, do

506
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 1: we have a hole on the offensive line, but we

507
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: also want to get more playmakers? Okay, so the question

508
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: is do I need to invest first round picks in

509
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 1: these offensive linemen to upgrade the top of our offensive

510
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 1: line or can we use the second third rounds in

511
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: this draft to get guys that are upgrades get the

512
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: Tomato Cans off our line. So we don't have any

513
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: easy wins, right. We might not have a great player,

514
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: but we can we can have a bunch of goods

515
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,959
Speaker 1: and we can get premium, premium playmakers for our quarterback.

516
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: Those guys have a lot of those teams have young

517
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks trying to make that decision. So like the Bengals

518
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,719
Speaker 1: are there the first one, right, what's better? Is it

519
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: better for us to take Jamaar Chase and pair him

520
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: up with let's just say Liam Eichenberg in the second round,

521
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: or is it better to take Penai Sewer and team

522
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: him up with maybe Rashad Bateman. You know, if he's there,

523
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: he might not be there. That's uh that I'm telling you.

524
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: That conversation is happening all over the league right now,

525
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: and and there's a there's a belief in some of them.

526
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: And I actually I am starting to buy into this

527
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: a little bit that the key to the offensive line

528
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: is not your best guy. That's your worst guy. You

529
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: just can't have. Like when you when you look at

530
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: all the sacks in this league, a lot more of

531
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: them are giving up than earned. In other words, they

532
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: find the matchup you've got a wal though we talk

533
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: about all the time, they will find you you cannot

534
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: have a wal though in your offensive line. Now you can't.

535
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: You can't have that. I would just think out of

536
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: this year from a sheer number standpoint, though, I would

537
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: steal leaning towards taking the big early. I feel like

538
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: the drop off is bigger between the A and B

539
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: class of offensive lineman and the Seeing D class of

540
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: offensive lineman compared to the AM B class of playmakers

541
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: and the Seeing D class of playmakers. I just think

542
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: when you look at the second and third round of

543
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: wide receivers and running backs and and and offensive skill guys,

544
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: we've seen those guys have success. Think of late the

545
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I mean, with the exception of the guy

546
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: in uh New York, Andrew Thomas. Yeah, he said a

547
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: little bit last year, those other guys were solid worse

548
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: wheels back to I mean, they came right in and

549
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: they were I mean, they might have exceeded x Xxason's

550
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: as a first round pick. I know there's some mixed

551
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: feelings on this class, but I think this class is

552
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: pretty solid. May that'd be the high end level of

553
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: last year's class, but I think it's a really solid

554
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: collection of Tier one and Tier two offensive linement. I

555
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: would take the offensive linement if I'm those teams that

556
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: you mentioned, because I'm a little more confident that I

557
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: can find someone who can make something happen with the

558
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: ball and hands. Yeah, I would say I think that's

559
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: a strong argument. I don't think this year like in

560
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: years in years past, I remember just thinking of all

561
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 1: those dudes we had in the second third rounds, like

562
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: ak Metcalf, like my six player with their A. J.

563
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: Brown was like my you know, thirtieth player. They got

564
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: him in the back. Like those guys were rated really

565
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: up high. I don't know if this year's like that

566
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: second tier of white outs, like Terris Marshall's got some

567
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: injury stuff that we're worried about. I don't think that

568
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: second groups as good as we've seen the last couple

569
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: of years. It's there's guys like Nico Collins, he play

570
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: last year, he's player. I don't know. I just don't

571
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: see like the Pittman's that all those dudes that we

572
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: saw last year, I don't. I mean, I'm sure maybe

573
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: they'll emerge, maybe they'll come out of there. But the

574
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: other thing I would say is I always think it's

575
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: you know how copycat, right, So let's go, let's go

576
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: who won the Super Bowl? Tampa Bay left tackle Donovan

577
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: Smith's second round left guard Ali mar Pett, second round

578
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: center Ryan Jensen's a free agent who was a late pick.

579
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: The right guard Alex Cappa, he was hurt. He didn't

580
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: play in that game, So Alex Aaron Stinney was not

581
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: a high pick. And then they had the first rounder

582
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: with Works. So you had a first rounder and like

583
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: to me, if you can fill in one a player

584
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: two bees because we say mar Pitt and Donovan it

585
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: just in terms of bees, in terms of second round

586
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: player round and and then a couple of seas. Yeah,

587
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: and they were able to pass. I mean they score

588
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: points in bunches. You know, let's all right, let's let's

589
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: do I haven't even looked at this yet. We'll do

590
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: it live right here, because I know, uh, I'm sure

591
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: now Bale is probably getting ready to type this in

592
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: or he's not. I don't know if he's in here today,

593
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: but he would be typing this in here. But it

594
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: was the Packers. Look at the Pickers offensive line. Okay,

595
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: the Packers had the best offense. Are as good offense

596
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: as we have in the NFL. So BOXTR is the

597
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: four John Runnings, the six. Elton Jenkins is a two

598
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: right now at right guard on our lads, they have

599
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: Lucas Patrick who's a free agent, and they have Billy

600
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: Turner right tackle, who is a down the line guy.

601
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: Maybe the better the quarterback. I don't know that. Hey, hey,

602
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: those are two all same quarterbacks. I don't I don't

603
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: just think that. I don't that, But but there's there's

604
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: something to it. I think the number one thing when

605
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: it comes to coaching, the first hard that you have

606
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: to make is the offensive line coach, because depending on

607
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: how good your offensive line coach man, he can make

608
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: miracles happen. You know, there is something to be said

609
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: for that. Though, when you look at it, I mean,

610
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: you don't have to have all the first round? Is

611
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: this thing about the in athletes coast on that front

612
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: line pulled up right here. So Costanzo's gone, so obviously

613
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: you've got even was he a one? He was the one.

614
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: He was a one. He was a one. But right

615
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: now they've got Sam Tevy left tackle, they got draft tackle.

616
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: But they have Quentin Nelson's a one. Ryan Kelly's a one.

617
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: Lewinskys came over from Seattle, he was downline. Brandon Smith's

618
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: the two. I think, like, to me, you've got to

619
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: sprinkle in a one here. I think that second round, Buck,

620
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: there's so many there's good offensive linemen like you. Again,

621
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: you might not get a great player, but you eliminate

622
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: the tomato cans. You just gotta that's the whole thing.

623
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: It's like it's like going to the fair and you've

624
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: just gotta hit the like, just get the tomato cans

625
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: to fall over, get those out of there. Maybe so

626
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the premises this first round might be reserved

627
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: for the tackles. Yeah, go and get the best into

628
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: your players in the second round. Yeah, Like, go and

629
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: get those guys because those guys play with neighbors, right,

630
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: they always have body help. They got a center and

631
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: they got a tackle. I just need to be able

632
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: to control my yoker, right, if you just around the yard,

633
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: the neighbors are gonna take care of to the other stuff.

634
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: And so there, I mean, there definitely is something to it.

635
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: And the system that you play on offense were really

636
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: dictate how you feel about the playmakers? Is it to

637
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: catch your run system? Are we relying on the a

638
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: quarterback to the ball into the hands of the playmakers

639
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: and let them work. Kansas City is a team that

640
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: is unique because Tyreek Hill, he may happen if you

641
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: just give him the ball, but he also can take

642
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Speaker 1: it down the field. And so I think I think

643
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: it's being able to understand exactly who you are. But yeah, man,

644
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: it's it's tough, right, But I think I think we've

645
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: stumbled onto something that in terms of if you have

646
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: an upper tier quarterback, they almost you almost penalize them

647
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: because you're like, guys, you got it, man, we're gonna

648
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: get you as many answers to outside as we can

649
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: get the weapons. That's with Peyton Manning, look at the

650
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: group he played behind Indian apples all those years. That's

651
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: really good. You know what, That's a good point because

652
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: I think if you go all the way back to

653
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: when Coley and was drafting with Peyton Manning first round

654
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: playmakers on the outside, Reggie, Wayne mar and Harrison Dallas

655
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: playmakers first round, Yeah, like all playmakers. I can't remember

656
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: where they drafted their tackles, but their tackles may have

657
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: been ones too. And then they spending money on pass rushers.

658
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: Everybody else playmakers and pass rushers and Peyton make every

659
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: boils right. But you know how that like like I

660
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: remember the Lions, Remember the Lions with Stafford with Lenahan

661
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: when he was there. I just remember them going four

662
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: getting five out all the time and just saying, look,

663
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: you have the talent, we're gonna give you answers. Offensive

664
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: lines probably not gonna be very good, but get it out,

665
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: get it out. I mean. And and there's some quarterbacks.

666
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: Look they almost if you gave them and said, hey,

667
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: look I'm gonna get you three stud receivers and a

668
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl tight end, or we're gonna have one good receiver,

669
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: one okay receiver. We have the best offensive line of football,

670
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: telling you give those quarterbacks true SEMy like, give me

671
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: the weapons, I'll make I'll make it work. And this

672
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: all goes back to you, your ability to know what

673
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: do I have at quarterback. The better the quarterback, the

674
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: more you want to get five out. The less of

675
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 1: the quarterback, the more we got to make sure that

676
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: the fortress is correct, because he doesn't have the ability

677
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: to do it, not only from a process standpoint, but

678
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: from a pure thing. Because we've seen the older quarterbacks

679
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks that are the A level, Hey, let's

680
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: go empty so I can see exactly where it is.

681
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: And now I can go deal because now I'm saying

682
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find the matchup that it's going to win

683
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: quicker than those guys can. Let me, and this will

684
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: be the last thought I want to leave this. We

685
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: have said for a while that Saturday is bleeding to Sunday.

686
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: Right the college game has turned into the NFL game.

687
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: Uh three to one. Tell me a good Clemson offensive

688
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: line in the last ten years, tell me one, not

689
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: one wide receivers. It's the most remarkable thing that you

690
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: think about. They have not had any one, and yet

691
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: they are consistently competing for titles. You know what. The

692
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: differences though, compared to Alabama, They've had a level quarterback play.

693
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Trevor Lawrence. You go to Alabama. I mean, look,

694
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to knock. I don't want to knock.

695
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: I don't want too of it. But like, let's look

696
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: at their quarterbacks. They've won titles without necessarily a top

697
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: dude to quarterback. But they've had the beef offensive line,

698
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: and yeah, they still had the skill players. But it's

699
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: a difference when you look at the quarterbacks, it's different.

700
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: The better to quarterback, the lesser to need to have

701
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: the fortress up front, and the greater than need give

702
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: me the weapons on the outside. You might have stumbled

703
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: into something. I'm talking about trucks and trailers. Yeah, I

704
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: think it's interesting, so to me again, Cincinnati, fascinating decision. Man,

705
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase quarterback, loves him, He's had a success with him.

706
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna be able to win. Right now, it's Jim.

707
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: It's the decision. Do I want Jim mar Chase and

708
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: Eikenberg or do I want Pine Stool and maybe Bateman

709
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: if he's there. Maybe. But nowever we had that discussion

710
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: kind of change because I'm like, man, you you put

711
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: you put Ja Mar Chase up there with Tyler boy

712
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: and t Higgins. You have a young core of White House.

713
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: Did I mean they'll grow together for a time because

714
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd has already signed a second deal, he signed

715
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: his big deal. You have Tee Higgins on the rookie deal,

716
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: you have Jamaar Chase on the rookie deal. Like that

717
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: crew can grow together, and then I find them. I

718
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: come right back, and I know you talked about Aikenberg.

719
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: I have to get someone over the middle of I

720
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: gotta find a tight end. And there's a drop off

721
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: after you get past the first not much there. Yeah,

722
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: but that's that's a good playmaker. Yeah, so that's that's

723
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: we We went long on that. That's kind of the

724
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: big discussion mist taking place. All Right, we'll give me

725
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: one more storyline or one thing you're keeping an eye on,

726
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 1: buck before we wrap this thing up. Who when we

727
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: when are we going to have the run on pass rushers?

728
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: Who is going to be the tipping point in terms

729
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: of the first guy to go? And what does it

730
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: look like um quitti pay Alizolari, what happens with Gregory Rousseau,

731
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips, all those guys? And then after I think

732
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: about the pass rusher, who is the surprise d lineman

733
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: that cree us into the first round? Is it Levi

734
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Speaker 1: on zurich A, is it bar More? Who? I think

735
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: most people, I think most people in the league kind

736
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: of have in the first round, but we on the

737
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: outside don't necessarily have them in the first round. Who

738
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: is going to be the one that we go? Whoa,

739
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: we didn't see that coming? Yeah, so I would offer

740
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: up I saw. By the way, it's still funny to me, man,

741
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: because I feel like my in my crazy like we've

742
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: been talking about so many these guys for so long

743
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: I saw somebody was like, my surprise first rounder, Joe

744
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: Tryon goes in the first I've been talking about Joe

745
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: try And go in the first round. What come on? Uh,

746
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: Peyton Turner is my Peyton Turner is my keeping eye

747
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: on player from Houston. He's a big kid, so that

748
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: would be kind of the sneaky one there. But um,

749
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: the kids and I'm keep an eye on. Because I

750
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: thought about it, I think we had this discussion. I

751
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: can't remember. They all blend together. Is on path or

752
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: it might have been on move to six? Lynn Dixon

753
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: all medical? Just what are your doctor say? He's been

754
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: heard almost every year. Um, he's a great player, he's

755
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: coming off in a c L. It's just whatever they need.

756
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: So so this is I have my top one fifty

757
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: that's posting today, So my my final rankings there, I

758
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: go to one fifty and just so because it's kind

759
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: of our loyal listeners and stuff, they'll go, oh there,

760
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: there's some some movement here there. I would just say,

761
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't get into character stuff. I don't get into

762
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: the medical stuff and detail. I just not going to

763
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: do that. But you can probably infer if you see

764
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: some some good movement at this point in time. It's

765
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: one of those one of those two. Um. The thing

766
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: I would add is the one thing this had nothing

767
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: to do with uh, with that, the one move that

768
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: I made. You kind of get to the end of

769
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: the process, Buck, and you're stacking everything up and you

770
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: read back through all your notes and you're like, this

771
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: kid reads really good. Man, Like, why am I not?

772
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: Why don't I have him higher than he is? You know,

773
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: you know those kind of moments like I had that

774
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: moment I had Darius Tony over Elijah More, And then

775
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: I went back through and I that, okay, let's follow,

776
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: let's follow Elijah More. I love the tape. Phenomenal Pro Day, right,

777
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: all this stuff was off the charts. Then you talk

778
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: to people around the league and interest stud like he's great.

779
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, he's kind of checked every single

780
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: box all the way through the process. Kadarius Tony. I

781
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: loved his tape. Loved his tape of Florida. Remember the

782
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl drop had some drops of the Sea Bowl

783
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: at the Pro Day. It seems like a little thing,

784
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: but it's a wide up Buck. You know this like

785
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: when guys have once when they stopped to catch everything

786
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: scares me a little bit, Like this guy does not

787
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: have natural hands. He's not just running through the ball,

788
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: so he's not super confident in his hands. So I

789
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: I still like him. I have him, He's been my

790
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: top thirty two players, but I'm like, you know what,

791
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: Elijah More is cleaner. He might be a little bit smaller,

792
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: but he's cleaner. So I ended up moving Elijah More

793
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: over to Darius Tony. That was a tough one noice cleaner.

794
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: Here's the thing with Tony. When I see you, ka,

795
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: Darius Tony, I think second round all day because I

796
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: think the second round is reserved for those what I

797
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: call the number two receivers, either the vertical playmaker or

798
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: the guy that has that. The first round, in my mind,

799
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: should be reserved for the guys who can do it all.

800
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: They have all the tools, they can run rouse, they

801
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: can make plays, their natural catches like it's easy, they

802
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: pluck it, they do all that. Elijah More has that.

803
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: And then when I think about Elijah More and the

804
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: versatility not only in terms of being in to play

805
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: inside outside, jezz sweeps and all that, to me, he

806
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: just has more tools in the toolbox right now at

807
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: this time. Yea, now that's it may be fun. Man,

808
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: we're here. We made it the draft week, I do

809
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: we referenced Trevor Lawrence and that Clempson offense. Do want

810
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: to courage everybody to check out the Trevor Lawrence three

811
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: sixty podcast. We have the Justin Fields three sixty which

812
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: is out now. I think we're just waiting on Zack Wilson, right.

813
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson comes out on Tuesday. Yeah, so that's there.

814
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: So again one of the best things we do. I

815
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: hope you guys have enjoyed it. Um. Uh, they're great,

816
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: They're fantastic. The guys did a great job. I do

817
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: want to shout out by the way, because I don't

818
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: think I did it on the actual shows. Um. David

819
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: Singer is our booker who when you listen to these

820
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: episodes and you see the volume of guests that we have,

821
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: he works his butt off. He may be a fan

822
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: of a overrated baseball team and the Dodgers, but he

823
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: is overrated. I think here's the thing, and I knew

824
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: this because I could. I could send bubbling up and

825
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: everyone's giving your flowers on Twitter. But my thing would

826
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: be this, if I just have to learn how to

827
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: be more teams than just the Dodgers. You can't you

828
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: can't sit it thirteen and eleven and all your wins

829
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: are over the Dodgers because that is not going to

830
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: be a recipe for you to win the whole thing.

831
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: And so I think there's their singular focus on the

832
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: Dodgers is great in series, but you're not going to

833
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: make him play off because you don't play the Dodgers

834
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: all the time. I think, um the announcement made the

835
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: analogy about big brother little brother. I do feel like

836
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: little brothers up there just taking his cuts and big

837
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: brother and just hitting him. But I feel like big

838
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: brother is looking past him to try and figure out

839
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: like okay, okay, okay, okay, I get it. And then

840
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: they're looking in the other yard. So they're focus on

841
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: a little brother when they need to, but right now

842
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: they're just kind of looking over the fence, like trying

843
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: to figure out, Hey, what else is out there? Like

844
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: it's kind of like when my dog jumps on me,

845
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: like okay, okay, Sunday, I get it. I get like

846
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: he's the best of the there's two parts of the

847
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: best analogy that I heard that I love this as

848
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: a Padre fan of It's like somebody tweeted out, I

849
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: just check. Looks like little brotherhood of growth spurt. I

850
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: like to meet up on a little brother told of

851
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: a sudden You're like, wait a second, what happened to him?

852
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: I don't want away to college. That came back. He's

853
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: bigger than I am doing Man, Superman miss some games.

854
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: Superman miss some games with that shoulder, Superman back, now

855
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: that's a different bird now some Yeah, I mean, he's

856
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: great as long as he's in the box. Don't put

857
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: him in the field, though, because he's gonna break your

858
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: heart with those nine errors and games or whatever used

859
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: to work the other's shoulder. He had, he had enough,

860
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: gidd he have to turn a double play that save

861
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: the bacon at the at the end of the game

862
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: of the day. But he is a freak show. And

863
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: that's like to me, I just look at it, and

864
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: I see, this is what I love about it. We'll well,

865
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: we'll get to October and see how it all works out.

866
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: But the uh, the thing that I love is that

867
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: everybody is like this with like the Patriots, Like I

868
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: just haven't been with the Ravens, like there are teams

869
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: that just used to they just bow down to the Patriots,

870
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: like they get freaked out by them. They just there

871
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: and all of them. And then like the Ravens have

872
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: always just had a we're better than these guys, like

873
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: even though it didn't always even away didn't always work out,

874
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: like there's no there's no fear in that. No, no, no,

875
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: no fear of fact or whatever. Now I think it's fascinating.

876
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: I think it's been great. I think it's been great

877
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: for baseball that they've been able to put it on.

878
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: It seems like they're playing every weekend. I know they

879
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: don't play again into June. I love the Tatis celebrations

880
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: and bad flips and the fact that Bauer came back

881
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: and was like, look, man, that's for whatever. That's what

882
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: it should be because I think it's more fun and

883
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: when you watch baseball like the World Baseball Classic and

884
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: those things, when you watch of the countries is very

885
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: celebratory when they hit home runs, and to me, that's

886
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: more exciting to watch. It's more fun to watch, and

887
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: it's more likely to keep me engaged outside of the

888
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: month of October. When this player ouf baseball. Yeah. The

889
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: one thing I was actually talking to a GM about

890
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: this this morning because I said this. I think we

891
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: talked about in the pod about going too that game

892
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: and watching kerr Shaw like like just foul off a

893
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: bunch of pitches and end up getting a walk. They

894
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: ended up winning the Dodgers the game. Yeah, but it

895
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: was like, I feel like, uh, in baseball they have

896
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: that phrase winning player. God, I love that, man Like, Like,

897
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: they didn't win the game, but justin Turner in extra

898
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: innings obviously start with the run around second just selfless

899
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: hit the ball to the right side, get him over

900
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: to third base with one out, Like I'm like that,

901
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: just he's a winning player, man Like the winning player.

902
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: Like there's those three or four players that need to

903
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: be made in any sport, in any in any in

904
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: any game, and there's just those certain players that always

905
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: make the right play. And that's what and that's what's

906
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: really really important in scouting is getting to note the

907
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: player enough and getting to know enough people around the

908
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: program to tell you no, no, no, he's too glue.

909
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: Like you may not look like whatever, but he's really

910
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: the guy that kind of stirs to drink. Being able

911
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: to know that. Yeah, anyway, it was fun. It was

912
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: a good baseball. It's fun to watch again, which they

913
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: played every week. It's far more enjoyable. And the pottery

914
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: is we need to beat the Pirates and company. Now

915
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: let to be emotional, but that's fun, man, enjoy uh

916
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: the rest of the stevits with Draftwick. It's funny, like I, I, uh,

917
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: we talked about this every year, but this is like,

918
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 1: are we scrimmage this stuff every day? And I feel

919
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: like people might be caught off guard or surprised maybe

920
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: a little bit on Draft Day, but I feel like

921
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: we've kind of run through the scenarios of of of

922
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: everything that can happen here. So that's why I love

923
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: the pod. Yeah, that's a lot of fun, a lot

924
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: of all right, man, I appreciate, appreciate everybody again. Shout

925
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: out to the crew they're putting this thing together. We

926
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: appreciate all you guys. We'll catch you next time right

927
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: here on Move the Sticks. Thank for downloading Move the

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