WEBVTT - "MY BOYFRIEND WORE MY THONG"

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<v Speaker 1>The whole drive. I'm just crying. I'm sobbing the whole way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's almost an hour drive, no music type of drive.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I come home, I want to bend.

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<v Speaker 2>To my boyfriend, you know. So I come home and

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<v Speaker 2>I open I go to my bedroom because he's in there,

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<v Speaker 2>and the first thing I see is him just.

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<v Speaker 1>Laying in the bed faith down, asked so high.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Noticeable in one of my pink lace songs. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't know, man, we don't. We both just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of look at each other. And I'm still sobbing

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<v Speaker 1>because the day was just so ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Georgia. Yes, yeah, Georgia. What's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>Not a whole lot?

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<v Speaker 3>What's your are you? You're in a car right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I just heard a turn signal.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yes, I am actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are we going? Are we turning right or left?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I am actually turning left.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going home, going home.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what's what's home?

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<v Speaker 6>Home?

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<v Speaker 7>In Oklahoma?

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<v Speaker 3>Where are we coming from?

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<v Speaker 2>We're coming from my boyfriend's work and McDonald's. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>work at McDonald's. He works actually a piece of please.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also wanted to get McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, what'd you get at McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a cheese burger happy nail.

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<v Speaker 3>I also do. I don't get mine with any onions

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<v Speaker 3>or any pickles.

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<v Speaker 1>I do get the pickles.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it really depends on my mood that day.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you get a toy? What's the toy problem they

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<v Speaker 3>got going on?

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<v Speaker 8>Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Batman?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I haven't checked yet because I was too

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<v Speaker 1>excited to like rush home, because I was nervous if

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to answer before I got home, or.

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<v Speaker 2>If I was still driving. But that ends up happening anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, your turn signal has been on the

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<v Speaker 3>entire time we've been talking, and I'm are you did

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<v Speaker 3>you make.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm just now turning. I'm finally turning. Don't worry,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about to turn off.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay. You know, for a second, for a second,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you were just like taking aly long right turn.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wait, you said you're turning left. I thought would

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<v Speaker 3>take a really long left turn. And then I and

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<v Speaker 3>then it came to me, I was like, oh, I'm dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>She's in the left lane waiting to turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But by the way, but if you're in. If you're

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<v Speaker 3>in the left lane, do you really and do you

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<v Speaker 3>really need a turn signal? Because everyone behind you is

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<v Speaker 3>also turning left, so they and like just being being

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<v Speaker 3>in the lane that itself signifies that you are turning left,

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<v Speaker 3>So do you need to add a turn signal on

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<v Speaker 3>top of it?

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<v Speaker 1>I have actually had arguments with people, well, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, arguments just over there. In my opinion, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the turn signal is there for you should

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<v Speaker 1>just use it, Just use it just in case you

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<v Speaker 1>never know. I mean, granted the point, it's true, but

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know. I've seen people do some function

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<v Speaker 1>on the road and you can't trust their turn signals.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not and they do some of their stuff. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, okay, just just follow the general guidelines and

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<v Speaker 1>we're all cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Georgia. It says here you one day came home from

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<v Speaker 3>work crying, and then you when you got home you

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<v Speaker 3>found your boyfriend face down, ass up, wearing one of

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<v Speaker 3>your pink thongs, and then that and that made you

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<v Speaker 3>feel worse. What tell me that story?

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<v Speaker 1>So I used to work, uh, I mean, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really matter where you used to work, But I was

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<v Speaker 1>having a terrible, terrible day at work. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>cut in there and just at the place they wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted us to like cut so many people, and

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<v Speaker 1>the men there were so rude. It was a barbershop

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<v Speaker 1>takes place, and it was just terrible. So I'm coming home.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole drive, I'm just crying. I'm sobbing the whole way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's almost an hour drive, no music type of drive.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it was terrible. So when I come home, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanna bend.

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<v Speaker 2>To my boyfriend, you know, because ship fav that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you do. And so I come home and I open

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<v Speaker 2>I go to my bedroom because he's in there, and

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing I see is him just.

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<v Speaker 1>Laying in the bed, face down, asked so high, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's noticeable in one of my pink lace songs.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We both just sort of look at each other. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still sobbing because the day was just so shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's sort of just laying there awkwardly, and for

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<v Speaker 1>I swear to god, it it felt like it was

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. It was probably just thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>But eventually he, you know, suits up and he's like.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to like make you laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess when you came home and I just kept.

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<v Speaker 1>Crying and it was just really, really fucking awkward. He

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<v Speaker 1>then was like consoling me and his in the song

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<v Speaker 1>still his balls were hanging out and everything, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just crying. He was comforting me with it was

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<v Speaker 1>a whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, you know, that's actually nice. So when I first

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<v Speaker 3>read this, I thought it was I I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 3>that he intentionally wanted to be walked in on in

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<v Speaker 3>this position. I thought he was doing something discreet and

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<v Speaker 3>you encountered upon him in the act.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, he uh, he likes to be seen doing these

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<v Speaker 2>things for for shiitts and giggles. I guess he's I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know where he got the idea from. He

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I think I honestly, I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>And did you eventually find yourself amused by this once

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<v Speaker 3>you calmed down or or I mean you said you

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<v Speaker 3>said it made it it made it worse?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you know, I was already having a bad

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<v Speaker 2>day and I just wanted to talk to him about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and just something about knowing that like his his I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a man you know, and sometimes men are like

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<v Speaker 2>nasty and sweaty and shit, and like he was in

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<v Speaker 2>my thong and I don't know something about his ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Just being up in my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Just it was just a weird I was already having

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<v Speaker 2>a bad day, so I see bad situations. But yeah, Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>after I had calmed down, though, we both laughed so

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<v Speaker 2>fucking hard about it. We were talking about it last night. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I told him that, uh, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably gonna potentially talk to you and tell you about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, it's the most embarrassing thing he ever had

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that your boyfriend, and ten only puts himself

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<v Speaker 3>in embarrassing situations. I think that there is a strong

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<v Speaker 3>power in that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, honestly, it's it's one of the he makes my

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<v Speaker 2>life really amazing with that. I'm never bored with him ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt. That's so great to hear, because I think a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people think, like, oh, if I'm doing this

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<v Speaker 3>way or whatever, women won't like that. But here you are,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy is in your thong, ass up, and you

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<v Speaker 3>you're you're you enjoy that. It's a part of his whimsy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, it's amazing. Truthfully, while in the moment, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of shitty. It's it's it's fucking hilarious

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<v Speaker 2>to look back up for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>How long he has been dating for?

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<v Speaker 2>About three years?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Three years? Wow? Is he with you right now? Oh no, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Well let me know. Uh, I'm wondering what he's probably

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<v Speaker 3>like setting something up right now, like he's wearing one

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<v Speaker 3>of your bras, or he's put one of your tampons

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<v Speaker 3>in and you'll walk in through the door and he'll

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<v Speaker 3>be spread eagle.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be a you know, I hope so.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'll update you all for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Update you or oh yes, oh yes, let us know.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much for calling Georgia untily.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Jacob, Yeah, Jacob, Jacob.

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<v Speaker 3>It says here that you're having anxiety about whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not you are an asshole.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Actually, a.

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<v Speaker 8>Few weeks ago, I had a few drinks with some

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<v Speaker 8>friends at a concert and uh, I made some I

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<v Speaker 8>guess asshole has joked out loud and it seems like

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<v Speaker 8>a few people heard and I said, out loud, am

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<v Speaker 8>I a dick? And my friends started laughing, And I

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<v Speaker 8>believe they think that I'm a dick.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So you make a joke, h then you

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<v Speaker 3>second guess the joke. I wonder if you're an asshole,

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<v Speaker 3>and then your friends laugh along, and that makes you

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<v Speaker 3>think that you're an asshole.

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<v Speaker 8>That's not I mean, that's when I started thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But now I okay, So I'm sorry, can't continue.

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<v Speaker 8>I just feel like I'm micro analyzing my actions day

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<v Speaker 8>to day and I guess the and take much micro analyzing.

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<v Speaker 8>But I feel like I am a dick.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you feel like you're a dick.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I'm a delivery guy or a delivery company in

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<v Speaker 8>the not so nice part of town here, and I

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<v Speaker 8>don't have very good customer service skills. I've come to

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<v Speaker 8>found or at least not now, but my road rage

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<v Speaker 8>has gone up. If someone gives me attitude, I just

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<v Speaker 8>don't I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>Care.

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<v Speaker 8>I just go off or I'll give him a finger.

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<v Speaker 3>And all right, So, so you feel like you, as

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<v Speaker 3>you've gotten older, have become more prone to anger.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe anger, yeah, bitterness, frustration Okay, I'd like soak like

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<v Speaker 8>all day long.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you're getting agitated. So you have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>like of stimulus and variables coming in, do you feel

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<v Speaker 3>like all this stimulus and variables are like going through

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<v Speaker 3>you and then coming out of you in the form

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<v Speaker 3>of assholeish behavior as defined by you.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's not a bad way to put it yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so do you let me ask you something. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you care about whether or not you're an asshole? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you desire not to be an asshole?

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<v Speaker 9>Well?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well yeah, so this went hand in hand with

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<v Speaker 8>some other thoughts that I've been having and just about

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<v Speaker 8>why we're here and why this is all.

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<v Speaker 3>Well well okay, well let's let's let's focus. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to focus on one thing because if we get on

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<v Speaker 3>other thoughts go crazy, We'll never you know. So all right,

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<v Speaker 3>but why let me ask you? Let me ask you

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<v Speaker 3>what what makes someone? Do you Do you desire to

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<v Speaker 3>be actively good or you just desire not to be

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<v Speaker 3>actively bad?

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<v Speaker 9>No?

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<v Speaker 8>I want to I want to be I want to

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<v Speaker 8>be actively not bad if we have to all be

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<v Speaker 8>in this world together.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, that's not what I'm asking there, Like, do

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<v Speaker 3>you want do you want to be actively good or

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<v Speaker 3>do you just like want to cease this behavior that

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<v Speaker 3>you say is being an asshole?

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<v Speaker 8>No, I want to be good.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's I want to. I want to with you

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<v Speaker 3>right now. I want to define what does it mean

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<v Speaker 3>to be an asshole? Like do we even know or

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<v Speaker 3>are we just like or are we just saying that,

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<v Speaker 3>like we don't even know what we don't even know

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<v Speaker 3>what that means? Being an asshole is just words?

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<v Speaker 5>What is that?

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<v Speaker 3>What does that actually mean? To be an asshole?

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<v Speaker 8>Sure? So, I guess an asshole is someone who should

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<v Speaker 8>affect the way a person is feeling and not care.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, an asshole, in your definition is somebody who negatively

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<v Speaker 3>affects the way another person is feeling and doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, uh. When is the last time you feel

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<v Speaker 3>as though you negatively affected another person?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 8>They but perhaps they negatively affected me? First?

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<v Speaker 3>Jacob, Jacob, When is the last time you feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you negatively affected another person?

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<v Speaker 8>Today?

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<v Speaker 3>Today? What happened today?

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<v Speaker 8>I yelled at a lady at worked?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you yelled at a lady at work?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel bad about that?

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<v Speaker 5>Not so much?

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<v Speaker 8>But there's a reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, So yelled at lady at work and

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<v Speaker 3>you don't feel bad about it, and you feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you negative affected that lady? Hm, what was what's the reason?

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<v Speaker 7>Her dog?

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<v Speaker 2>Bit my hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Her dog tod bit your hand, so you yell at her.

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<v Speaker 8>I tried to handle the package and her dog jumped

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<v Speaker 8>up and bit my hands.

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<v Speaker 3>M hmm. Okay, what would you like to have done

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<v Speaker 3>in that situation?

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<v Speaker 8>If I had set the scene this this place is what?

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<v Speaker 3>Jacob, Jacob, jac what would you like to have in

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<v Speaker 3>that situation?

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<v Speaker 5>Hm?

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<v Speaker 8>I guess gotten in my car or my truck and left.

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<v Speaker 8>But it's just hard to compose myself in those situations.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it hard to compose yourself in these situations?

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<v Speaker 8>Because getting bit by someone's dog hurts, and they could

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<v Speaker 8>have stopped the dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. All right, I'm gonna tell you this is

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<v Speaker 3>something like I've been reading a little bit about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Look look at me. I've been reading you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you know stoic philosophy. You ever heard about

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<v Speaker 3>that Shitai? Yeah, basically like trying to have I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>coming at this as a master of it. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>coming at this again as a thought exploration alongside you,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, accepting things that we can't control. Right, this

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<v Speaker 3>dog bit you, This dog bit you. You cannot control

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<v Speaker 3>other people you can't control if somebody puts you off

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<v Speaker 3>in traffic. He said, you have road rage. Can't control

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<v Speaker 3>if a lady's dog bites you, but you can control

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<v Speaker 3>how you act, and you desire.

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<v Speaker 2>It.

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<v Speaker 3>Seems it seems like you desire this, because if you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't desire this, you wouldn't be calling me, we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be talking about this. So you do. You've bought Your

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<v Speaker 3>actions are shoying. You desire to be cooler and calmer

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<v Speaker 3>in these situations. Okay, So you can't control if the

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<v Speaker 3>lady's dog bites you. You can't control if the guy's car

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<v Speaker 3>hits you or cuts you off or whatever, but you

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<v Speaker 3>can control how you act towards it. So if a

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<v Speaker 3>lady's dog bites you, you have an opportunity. You look at

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<v Speaker 3>it not as a bad thing. You look at it

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<v Speaker 3>as an opportunity. You're get to retrain your brain. Here

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<v Speaker 3>to go. Oh, a bad thing happened to me that

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<v Speaker 3>was under no circumstances my control. Here's now an opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>for me to work toward this thing I want by

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<v Speaker 3>choosing not to care, by choosing not to yell at

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<v Speaker 3>the lady, choosing not to get upset, because it's the

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<v Speaker 3>most logical choice, right, Because the dog bit you that

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<v Speaker 3>that already happened, So why would you not take that

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<v Speaker 3>as an opportunity. It's like, logical, this isn't like this

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't feel good, wholesome bullshit. This is like, yeah, legit, Logically,

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<v Speaker 3>it is of your best interest to see it as

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity to work toward what you want, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a greater control over your emotions. So take this bad

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<v Speaker 3>thing that happened, decide to use it as an opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to not get upset. And dude, fucking you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to become a monk overnight. But like, next time, like

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<v Speaker 3>some homework here, next time that happens, gain like be conscious,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because because because you're you're gonna you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>slip into your unconscious habit of getting pissed. Next time

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<v Speaker 3>this happens, choose not to be upset about it. Choose

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<v Speaker 3>to just get back into your car and see how

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<v Speaker 3>that feels. Because once you've been able to consciously choose

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<v Speaker 3>how you feel about a situation, once you then learn,

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<v Speaker 3>oh shit, this is within my power, this is of

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<v Speaker 3>my control, and maybe that'll make you feel empowered to

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<v Speaker 3>keep acting in that direction. What do you think about

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<v Speaker 3>all of that.

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<v Speaker 8>I like that good advice. It's easy to get caught

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<v Speaker 8>up in the moment, especially because I'm listening to you

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<v Speaker 8>in my right year all day long while I'm driving,

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<v Speaker 8>and uh yeah, sometimes it just seems to happen so fast.

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<v Speaker 8>People are fucking crazy. They're definitely steel packages and down

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<v Speaker 8>to get my fucking truck. Like they need to know

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<v Speaker 8>that I'm not putting up with that shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Why why do they need Why does anyone need to

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<v Speaker 3>know anything? James, because James, could you have me, James,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just that, James. This is like you're telling you're

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<v Speaker 3>we're on the phone, you're telling me like the thesis

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<v Speaker 3>of the reason why you called. I don't know. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you called in just to tell me these stories, like

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<v Speaker 3>just for fun, which is fine, I guess that's the

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<v Speaker 3>whole point of this. But like it sounded to me

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<v Speaker 3>like you you have a desire to like change your behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you actually do. It's fine, by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, by the way, it's fuck. It's fucking fine

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't, like, you don't have to, so you

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<v Speaker 3>can you can continue, you know, doing whatever it is

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<v Speaker 3>you're doing. No one gives a ship, but I know

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<v Speaker 3>if you do. I don't know if you do. You

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<v Speaker 3>might not, but like, do do you do? You do

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<v Speaker 3>you want to be a little bit calmer?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, next time, next time, next time, next time, something

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<v Speaker 3>like that happens. Just like make the decision to take

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<v Speaker 3>the path of least resistance and be calm about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just make that conscious decision, and if you do that enough,

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<v Speaker 3>it'll become a happy.

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<v Speaker 5>Word.

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<v Speaker 3>James, Good luck to you, my friend. I'll talk to

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<v Speaker 3>you soon. I love your gay I will damn dude.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, no, iouly wasn't sure if I was going

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<v Speaker 7>to actually connect with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well here we are. We've connected. Whatever that means. How

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<v Speaker 3>are you doing, will, Yeah, I'm doing good.

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<v Speaker 7>While Oh yeah, fucking uh?

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<v Speaker 5>What's up?

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<v Speaker 7>What's happening? What's cracking?

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<v Speaker 3>Not much? Can I can? I read what it says here.

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<v Speaker 3>It says here that you were homeless sleeping in a

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<v Speaker 3>dumpster two years ago, but you have your life. I

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<v Speaker 3>was behind a dumpster. That's a little bit n I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's a little bit nicer than in the dumpster.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah yeah, yeah, so you know I was probably I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know, like eighteen at that point, and I'm like

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<v Speaker 7>twenty one now, for reference, didn't necessarily have like a

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<v Speaker 7>super troubled childhood or anything, but you know, got into

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<v Speaker 7>drugs when I was like fourteen or fifteen, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>started playing the drums in a punk band and on

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<v Speaker 7>my nose pierced and all that jazz, and I was like, hell, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>let's you know, do a bunch of coke and speed

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<v Speaker 7>and stuff. I guess, yeah, obviously got me into some trouble.

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<v Speaker 7>So I got kicked out of my parents' house and

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<v Speaker 7>got kicked out of school, wound up in the city nearby, Calgary.

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<v Speaker 7>And yeah, it wasn't like I was sleeping behind a

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<v Speaker 7>dumpster regularly, but I was couch hopping and whenever I

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<v Speaker 7>couldn't find a place, I'd hop on down to seventh Tab.

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<v Speaker 7>And so you had.

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<v Speaker 3>You had a dumpster in particular that.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, yeah, you know it was a spot.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you find that spot and declare it as

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<v Speaker 3>your spot? Did you like sort of go looking around

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<v Speaker 3>or did you happen upon it. What's the story of

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<v Speaker 3>how you found your spot?

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<v Speaker 7>Honestly, it was just like I used to just check

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<v Speaker 7>around with a couple of pairs of clothes and a

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<v Speaker 7>blanket on my backpack. And this spot was not too

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<v Speaker 7>far from one of the train stations downtown, so I

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<v Speaker 7>was buying an W burger chain. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>used to hang around to that burger chain with some

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<v Speaker 7>of the other hoboes. And yeah, no, just you know,

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<v Speaker 7>it's just right behind the ANW. Pretty pretty secure. There's

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<v Speaker 7>like some kind of generator or heater or some shit nearby,

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<v Speaker 7>so it was actually pretty warm in the winter. And

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<v Speaker 7>did it's not too bad for being a burger chain.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, like good beef at least. Yeah. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 3>ANW is a good one. I wanted to ask you

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<v Speaker 3>said you were hanging out with other hobos. You said,

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<v Speaker 3>did you make friends during this time period with other

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<v Speaker 3>people that were staying around the A and W.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, like not good ones, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 7>anybody in that situation recognizes that to a certain degree,

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<v Speaker 7>you got to stick together. You know, there were a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of people that I didn't necessarily agree with that

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<v Speaker 7>I found myself around because the numbers kind of provided security,

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<v Speaker 7>or also like knowing some of these scumbags and knowing

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<v Speaker 7>that some of the other scumbags who would potentially give

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<v Speaker 7>me trouble new them. You know, that's a sense of

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<v Speaker 7>security in and of itself. I didn't really ask too

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<v Speaker 7>many questions when you're with when you were with other people,

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<v Speaker 7>So that was the main thing, honestly, Like, I can't

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<v Speaker 7>think of too many people I was hanging out with

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<v Speaker 7>downtown that I would want to hang out with now.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, definitely I made some friends. It was just

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<v Speaker 7>kind of making deal with what I had at the

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<v Speaker 7>time though too.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, So, what are the main thoughts going through

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<v Speaker 3>your mind as you are What would do you have

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<v Speaker 3>a sleeping bag or anything?

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<v Speaker 7>No? No, I had had a blanket that I stole

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<v Speaker 7>from my friend's house.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you're falling asleep behind the dumpster, you got

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<v Speaker 3>your blanket you stole from your friends. What as you

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<v Speaker 3>lay down at night and go to sleep, what are

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<v Speaker 3>the thoughts going through your head?

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<v Speaker 7>Nine times at a time, it was holly fuck, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>hungry a lot of the time. It wasn't a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of sleep and being done. It was just sitting there

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<v Speaker 7>listening to you know, trains go by, cars go by, sirens,

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<v Speaker 7>listening to all the bullshit that a big city has

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<v Speaker 7>to bring. Yeah, I'm just kind of thinking about what

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<v Speaker 7>I could do next to make sure the next night

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<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't be in the same position.

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<v Speaker 3>That was pretty much and eventually and eventually, as you say,

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<v Speaker 3>you got out of that position. You say, what was

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<v Speaker 3>the process for you of getting yourself out of there

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<v Speaker 3>into a more stable place?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean it was a lot of help, for sure.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, like there's there's a community center in my city,

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<v Speaker 7>and they helped a lot, for sure. A lot of

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<v Speaker 7>volunteers there that literally would just hang around, like they'd

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<v Speaker 7>cook food for vagrants like me and just hang around

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<v Speaker 7>and listen to whatever we had to say or whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>And yeah they be Alex, anybody from there's listening and

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<v Speaker 7>shout out. So but yeah, no, so a lot of help.

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<v Speaker 7>You know. I had a couple of good friends from

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<v Speaker 7>from school and whatnot that have my back, and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>my brother and my mom and my dad obviously, But

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<v Speaker 7>at the same time, same thing that I was telling

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<v Speaker 7>the screener, not like like you know, I had a

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<v Speaker 7>conversation with my brother a couple of years after the matter,

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<v Speaker 7>and the big thing that I took away from it

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<v Speaker 7>he told me, you know, you can't jump away, jump

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<v Speaker 7>in front of a runaway train, you know, like he

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<v Speaker 7>was there to support me. He you know, he made

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<v Speaker 7>it very clear he loved me. But whatever decisions I

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<v Speaker 7>was going to make were mine to make. And you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>that's pretty much all it is to say about that.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I had to change my perspective. It was up

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<v Speaker 7>to nobody else, you know, like it was it was

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<v Speaker 7>my own thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can't of a run away train. I like that,

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<v Speaker 3>Uh that phrase?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, I liked that one too, And it's true.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, like you can't whatever reckless decision somebody's gonna make,

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<v Speaker 7>they're gonna make for themselves and you can't stop that.

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<v Speaker 7>All you can do is provide your own perspective. And

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<v Speaker 7>that's exactly what my brother did. That's my family and

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<v Speaker 7>you know, my good friends. But I'm glad none of

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<v Speaker 7>them took that upon themselves to change the way that

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<v Speaker 7>I was thinking, or what I was doing or anything,

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<v Speaker 7>because you know, let's some juju nobody needs.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh what is your life like now?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, about like eight months ago, nine months ago or whatever,

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<v Speaker 7>I moved from the prairies of Canada, just a little

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<v Speaker 7>ways east of the east of Calgary out to the

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<v Speaker 7>mountains into a ski town too.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>Chase a cheats A dream I had since I was

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<v Speaker 7>like fifteen or whatever. I moved out to Whistler to

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<v Speaker 7>work at a mountain bike park and I decided to

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<v Speaker 7>stay for winter. I'm working at a at a ski

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<v Speaker 7>rental shop. Now it's pretty sick. I can't lie, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I get to go skiing all my lunch break. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>looking out out my out my back door right now,

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<v Speaker 7>a beautiful mountains. So it's nice. Money's not great, but yeah, honestly,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think I I'd changed anything for the world. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 7>even my past experience is all that homelessness and druggy

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<v Speaker 7>bullshit and whatnot. I think a lot of that gave

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<v Speaker 7>me the perspective I have now. Uh, that perspective gives

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<v Speaker 7>me the ability to really enjoy where I am now.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, man, that's cool. I like, uh, I

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<v Speaker 3>like whenever I you know, I hear people I can

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I have gone through something something tough, but

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<v Speaker 3>they like get something out of it that they can

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<v Speaker 3>use in their sort of current life. That's awesome a

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<v Speaker 3>ski rental, But do you go skiing yourself?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely every day that I can.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful uh, Will, is there anything else that you want

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<v Speaker 3>to say to the to the people, thank you for

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 3>sharing this story. I I uh I I always enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>hearing a nice comeback tale.

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<v Speaker 7>Well yeah, honestly, one big thing I want to say is,

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<v Speaker 7>first of all, my god, you guys have such a

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<v Speaker 7>pleasant show on your hands. Even the screener was just

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 7>like such a such a nice dude. Yeah, just overall

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 7>vibe pleasant. And then beyond that, fuck, don't give up

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<v Speaker 7>on yourselves, people, you know, do what you can to

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<v Speaker 7>make it work, and eventually it will.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful. Thank you for calling Will, Hey.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks for having me man appreciate what you're doing here.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm, this is the wrong thing to have gotten out

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 3>of that, but I'm kind of craving a and w now.

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<v Speaker 3>Rick Fallon, Oh hello, hey, Rick Fallon, what's uh? What

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 3>have we got going on in the background? Are you're

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<v Speaker 3>watching a soap opera of some kind?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>It stays of our lives?

0:31:55.080 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh is it actually no, it's just I thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for yes anding me. By the way, it's it's nice.

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 3>I always I always appreciate that. I always appreciate It's

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<v Speaker 3>really hard, Rick Fallen, It's so hard to have a

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<v Speaker 3>conversation where you feel like you're being listened to and

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<v Speaker 3>the other person is taking feedback from what you said

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<v Speaker 3>and using it to inform what they then say. And

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<v Speaker 3>then you back take what they said that was informed

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<v Speaker 3>by what you said and then using that to inform

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<v Speaker 3>you say. And I mean that's ideally how a conversation goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you not agree?

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<v Speaker 5>Wow?

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, isn't. And that's the whole point of the show.

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 3>I think right now. The point of this show is

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 3>being a gecko and talking to people on the phone.

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 4>Oh you are a gecko. I paused the sentence, thank you.

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't that great of an episode.

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 3>What's going on, Rick Fallen? Is there anything in particular

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 3>that you want to to talk about? It's fine if not.

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 3>If you seem like a guy, we could just kind of,

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, hang out together on the phone.

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I'm down for anything. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>told the call screener guy, I I don't know. I

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 4>guess I've just been feeling a little weird lately. I

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<v Speaker 4>turned thirty over the summer, and it's pretty strange because

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, you know, I think maybe I'll live till

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like ninety and then after that, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how much, you know, you can really consider that living.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like a third of my life. It's pretty strange.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, why are you so sure that you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to live to ninety? I feel like I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>most people are getting too eighty these days.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, I don't know. My great grandma lived till she

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<v Speaker 4>was nine one hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, all right, so you have the jeans, you'll

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<v Speaker 3>all right, you know, we could we could say, we

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 3>could say ninety, but then you're right, you did make

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<v Speaker 3>a good point eighty to ninety or even if you

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 3>have to one hundred, ninety to one hundred, it's like,

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 3>what are you really even doing at that point?

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<v Speaker 4>It's I feel like it's generally like thirty years is

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<v Speaker 4>like about a third of your life maybe, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just strange to think about that, you know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh it's and you know, and I so that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of you know, I was dissatisfied with my job, so

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 4>I quit that. Oh nice, and then I decided to

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<v Speaker 4>go camping.

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<v Speaker 3>So you you're sort of coming to terms with the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that a third or more of your life is over.

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 3>And if we're looking back, let's look back at that

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 3>thirty years now, we don't don't have to go into

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 3>every every single sunday of it. But what at a glance,

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<v Speaker 3>what are we uh? What are we looking at here?

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<v Speaker 4>Hmm? My life's been kind of weird and kind of sad,

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:12.240
<v Speaker 4>but I've done a lot of fun stuff and crazy stuff,

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 4>so I feel like I've always had friends and stuff.

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 4>But I never went to college and got a degree.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to be a musician and I was in

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<v Speaker 4>some cool bands.

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<v Speaker 5>But.

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<v Speaker 4>I never really, I guess, put enough effort into it.

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 4>And then I became a carpenter and I did a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of really nice wouldwork, like working for very wealthy people,

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<v Speaker 4>and that was cool. But then I tried to go

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<v Speaker 4>to school, and as soon as I went to school,

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 4>COVID happened and kind of shut down the campus. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's been a pretty wild, pretty strange like I've been,

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<v Speaker 4>like I've been, you know, I've been trying a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of different things, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>So you said kind of did you say fun? Kind

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<v Speaker 3>of fun? Kind of sad? That was the two immediate

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.240
<v Speaker 3>words you used to describe your life thus far, which,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, you know, that's pretty that's pretty good

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<v Speaker 3>if we're talking about trying to live a colorful life,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, yeah, reveling in the reveling in the highs

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<v Speaker 3>and the lows.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, yeah, it's been.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what's been the most I guess fun time

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<v Speaker 3>period of these thirty years? And what were you doing

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<v Speaker 3>in that particularly fun time period?

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<v Speaker 4>Probably from like the ages of like maybe twenty to

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four, like you know, early twenties.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess early were pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 4>I just played a lot of shows in my band,

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 4>drank a lot, smoked a lot of weed, did a

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 4>lot of psychedelics, and didn't really care what was what

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 4>was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>That was cool, okay, And so then all right, let's

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 3>do twenty four to thirty. What's going on twenty four

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 3>to thirty the sort of mid late.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenties, I don't know. I just I kind of just

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 4>worked and didn't really didn't really think much of it.

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 4>I became like a carpenter because I thought, like i'd

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 4>feel like flipping houses or something like, I thought it'd

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 4>be cool, like I wouldn't have to have a real job,

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 4>Like I just like go in and like flip houses,

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 4>and I wouldn't have a boss and I'd make like

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 4>a lot of money or something, but he needed a

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:00.040
<v Speaker 4>lot of money to start doing.

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<v Speaker 3>That, right, did I mean did it work out kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like that? Or did it work out not like that?

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Even slightly? Stuff worked to work? How would you? How

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 3>would you? Where would you put it? Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>Works worse to work.

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 3>On a scale of it works like that too. It

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 3>didn't work like that at all? How much did it work?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, well, it didn't work like that at all. Then

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 4>I tried to go to school to be an engineer,

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 4>but then COVID happened, and then it was kind of weird.

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 4>I was forced to go back doing this sort of

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 4>carpentry stuff. And then I've been like freelancing and just

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 4>sort of living at my mom's house and writing some

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 4>music and uh yeah, not really sure. It's it's very strange,

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 4>like nothing. I've been down twenty different paths, but nothing.

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 4>It's all just been one intertwined experience. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of okay with it.

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<v Speaker 3>So you had this realization lately, Uh, you just turned thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>You're You're like, all right, this is a solid third over.

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:10.919
<v Speaker 5>We were.

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<v Speaker 3>We've we've looked back at the third, we've had some

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 3>pretty damn good times. We've had some sad times, but

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 3>we we kind of I feel like we're accepting it

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:25.879
<v Speaker 3>all as part of the human experience. Now, what's oh yeah,

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:29.360
<v Speaker 3>let's let's get a all right, now we're in the present.

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.839
<v Speaker 3>What's what's going on? What's going on the present, what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on today this week?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm just thinking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I don't. I don't really like think

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<v Speaker 4>about much. I just kind of I just kind of

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 4>go to the gym and I'm just I'm I kind

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 4>of stopped caring what's going to happen, and I just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like exist with what's going on around me.

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 4>I just kind of stopped trying to be something. I

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:08.240
<v Speaker 4>got really into this guy. His name is Ecker Tole.

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's who I thought you were gonna say, yeah,

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 3>the power of now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, oh yeah, And I've been kind of like that,

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 4>but you know, I still have to figure out like

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:26.240
<v Speaker 4>how to make money and stuff.

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 5>I guess.

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So let's see early early part of your life,

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 3>you're making all these plans, trying to do all these things,

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 3>thinking about the future, and contemporarily you're trying to live

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 3>more in the present. I'm trying to do that too.

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm always trying to see if I can do both.

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:52.400
<v Speaker 3>It's really hard to do both. But I'd like to

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 3>fucking believe that you can both live in the present

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 3>and plan for the future.

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<v Speaker 7>It's kind of weird.

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 3>It is kind of weird. It's a really tough balance.

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 3>So you're trying to live more in the present. What's

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 3>what's what's what about the future? Or are we thinking?

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:10.839
<v Speaker 3>Do we? You know? I know you say you're trying

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 3>to live in the in the present, which is a

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 3>good thing to do. I feel like it's pretty easy

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 3>to neglect that, considering it's all we ever really have.

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 3>But when you're looking for the future and you're thinking

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 3>about the next I don't even want to say five

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:29.240
<v Speaker 3>or ten, you're like, just, you know, the vague future.

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 3>What are we what are we looking at here?

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:41.280
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, I'm gonna figure out what I'm doing

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 4>based on like what I feel like doing, because you know,

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 4>sometimes I've had a job because I've had anxiety because

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't have a job. But now I'm like, I'm

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 4>just going to try to utilize my skills and figure

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 4>out something that doesn't really suck to do.

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 3>I guess, yeah, if.

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:06.800
<v Speaker 4>You really want to know, Like, I mean, my real

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 4>dream would be to have like a homestead sort of thing,

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 4>like a small farm. Maybe not completely off grid, but

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, off grid enough. I'm very good at building things,

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:25.720
<v Speaker 4>since I've built houses. Uh, and I'm not never farmed,

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 4>but I could probably farm. And I like animals, and

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm you know, I think I could do that, but

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't have money to do it. So that's just

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, how do I make money. I guess that's

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 4>what I have.

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<v Speaker 3>To figure out.

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 8>Well.

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 3>I like I like that you've got this like focus

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 3>on your You're kind of you're kind of doing what

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about with trying to pair a desire to

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 3>live in the present with at least a vague desire

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.919
<v Speaker 3>for something in the future, so you can vaguely walk

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 3>toward that direction. I like that.

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, everything's vague.

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 3>How do you feel about everything being vague?

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 4>I feel vague vague. I feel like it's just strange

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 4>watching like every like just existing is so strange. I

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 4>feel so vague, Like I don't feel good at bad

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 4>about it, and dying is weird. I don't really care

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 4>what happens after you die. I'm pretty spiritual, but just

0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 4>the idea that you're gonna have to experience infinity, that's

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 4>pretty strange.

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 3>M hm, you're gonna have to experience in art? Do

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 3>you believe?

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 8>What?

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Why would we have to No, I'm gelling you curious,

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm not, but like, why why would we have to

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 3>experience infinity? If we'll be dead, we wouldn't even we

0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:58.280
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't experience anything.

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, I guess you know, if you just if there's

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 4>no experience after you die, I believe that there is

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 4>some experience after physical life, you know, whether that's not

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 4>really dying and go to heaven, but you know there's

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 4>some sort of you return to some sort of source

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 4>of something maybe or maybe you just.

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 5>Go.

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 3>So the final thing, I'll ask you, yeah, despite what

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 3>you believe, because you're bringing up all these options, maybe

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 3>you do, Maybe you don't. Maybe this maybe that you

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 3>kind of accepting that you don't really know. If you

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 3>could choose, if it were up to you, if you

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 3>could play god for a moment, what of these different

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 3>sort of maybees would you choose to be the correct way?

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:02.280
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 4>Man, I don't know, not really like have consciousness like

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 4>you do now, but almost just like I don't know,

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 4>because that's sort of weird, because sort of asking like

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 4>what do you want to happen when you die? And

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:23.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm just like, I don't really, Yeah, I don't.

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't really. I think i'd rather just if it had,

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 4>if I had to actually experience something, I just hope

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 4>it wouldn't be.

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 7>Too I'm like unpleasant.

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 4>Thank you for sharing, Yeah, no problem, thank you, good night, Rick,

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:43.959
<v Speaker 4>good night.

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Lyle Rick had a. Rick had a good point about

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:51.319
<v Speaker 3>living in infinity that always used to scare me when

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 3>I was a kid. The idea of living forever, living

0:45:55.640 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 3>forever scares me way more than dying. If we just

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 3>are constantly reincarnated into something. Although I don't know, maybe

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 3>that's beautiful, Maybe it's cool. You get to be a butterfly,

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 3>you get to be an aunt, get to be a plant,

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 3>just forever your stuff. At least you're not alone, right Like,

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 3>if I'm here forever and my spirit is here forever,

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 3>then everyone else is here forever. And you know, my

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 3>mom's spirit when she dies becomes something else, so she's

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 3>still there. You know my dad's spirit when he dies,

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 3>he is still there. The guy who works at the

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:50.280
<v Speaker 3>seven to eleven where I buy gummy worms from, he's

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:56.919
<v Speaker 3>he's still there somewhere, you know. So we're all kind

0:46:56.960 --> 0:47:08.439
<v Speaker 3>of chilling forever. Sit tight. It's a long road ahead. Hellop, Yeah,

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:16.400
<v Speaker 3>how's how's everything going in uh various various h sections

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 3>of your life?

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 5>Ah, so far and it's uh it's looking up.

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:31.320
<v Speaker 5>Today is actually my birthday, so I mean, yeah, it

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 5>just started to work.

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:35.319
<v Speaker 3>Is is is your birthday important to you? Is it

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:38.479
<v Speaker 3>like is it a big events or is it like.

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 5>A not really I over the years, I had a

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 5>kind of a big event around my birthday a few

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:51.359
<v Speaker 5>years ago. I live in a tower where drugs are

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 5>kind of pretty bad. But it got my mom and

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:59.279
<v Speaker 5>her ex husband, but I was able to pull my

0:47:59.320 --> 0:47:59.799
<v Speaker 5>mom out.

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 4>But I don't really.

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 5>Care for birthdays too much or like, I don't know,

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:17.319
<v Speaker 5>no cake, but uh yeah, I just wanted to call

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:23.320
<v Speaker 5>in say hi, Yeah, I don't know. I started smoking

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:25.800
<v Speaker 5>a little bit ago before I started watching the stream,

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 5>so probably wasn't the best idea.

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 3>I was about to say. I was about to say,

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 3>are you are you bringing that up as a form

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 3>of like justification of your current behavior.

0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 5>On Oh I'm a little bit spacey, it's fine.

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh uh, why do you why do you feel like

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 3>your behavior needs some form of justification?

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 5>Oh, it's I don't know, it's something that I've done.

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 5>I constantly say sorry all the time, and yeah.

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 3>What do you Why do you think you do that?

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:00.879
<v Speaker 5>For sure?

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:09.280
<v Speaker 5>And I probably developed round some time after high school

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 5>where I graduated.

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh so this is a thing that went on sort

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 3>of sort of late in your life. I fet how

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 3>old are now?

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 5>But I am twenty two.

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Twenty two okay, And so for the last four years

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 3>you've been apologizing a lot.

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, pretty much after I kind of like moved out

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 5>of my my parents' house right before I graduated. Yeah,

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:44.560
<v Speaker 5>I never really felt like I really had like a

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 5>place I don't to I don't know. I always felt

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 5>like in a way or like a burden.

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:55.319
<v Speaker 3>But why are you trying to work on that? You're

0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:56.400
<v Speaker 3>trying to apologize less?

0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Yeah, it's one of those forces that habit things

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 5>now for four years, Like you said, mmm, but it

0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:13.000
<v Speaker 5>wasn't for sure. There's any uh topic.

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Of are you still are you still? Are you still you?

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:16.799
<v Speaker 7>All right?

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:19.480
<v Speaker 3>What's happening right now. You're you're I can tell you

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:22.319
<v Speaker 3>feel like you're doing this wrong somehow is that? Am

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 3>I protecting that on you? Or is that that's what

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:25.600
<v Speaker 3>it sounds like?

0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:30.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, kind of yeah, I'm always sure. I was just

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 5>watching the stream, uh, just recently, and I wasn't for sure.

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 5>There's any topic of choice.

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 3>What do you what if you were doing what do

0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:39.920
<v Speaker 3>you this is?

0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:40.120
<v Speaker 5>Like?

0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 3>How what would you doing this correctly? Look? Even look like?

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 5>To be honest, I kind of wanted to come on

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:57.000
<v Speaker 5>to get some sort of like I guess false guidance

0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 5>if you will, because it's it's really comes in myself.

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.200
<v Speaker 5>But uh, any sort of like way in on the

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 5>situation I'm dealing with.

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's what's Yeah, what'sh what's what's the situation? What's

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:08.080
<v Speaker 3>going on?

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? So I I'm decently skilled with computers and like

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 5>a networking or like a cybersecurity kind of way.

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.320
<v Speaker 7>But the area where I live, it's.

0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 5>Midwest and it's farming and random. I live in a

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 5>city where there's nothing here but I need to move.

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:32.239
<v Speaker 5>But everyone in my family that I like talk to,

0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:35.360
<v Speaker 5>which I stopped talking to all of my family except for.

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 3>The few people.

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:40.120
<v Speaker 5>Availa want me to stay. So I'm at an impasse.

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:43.400
<v Speaker 5>Gek and I don't really know what to do. I

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 5>want to move and starts college, but you know it's

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:50.600
<v Speaker 5>it's a cliche, like a small.

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 7>Town kind of thing.

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:54.799
<v Speaker 3>I so you want to move and start Why why

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:56.280
<v Speaker 3>why can't you move and start college?

0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:07.520
<v Speaker 5>Well, uh, I don't know. It's well, it's gonna be.

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:12.759
<v Speaker 5>I'll just say fear. Yeah, the fear of fear.

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:16.359
<v Speaker 3>I was going to say, you seem and again, I'm

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:18.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm just a guy on the phone. I'm a stick

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:20.880
<v Speaker 3>gecko guy. I'm not a psycho, I'm not anything. I'm

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:24.960
<v Speaker 3>a sick guy. But but listen, you seem scared. I

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 3>don't know. I don't know how to take this fear

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 3>out of you. But but we we both know it's there,

0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:33.719
<v Speaker 3>like a general fear or anxiety or whatever. I don't

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:35.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't have the skills to take

0:52:35.440 --> 0:52:37.759
<v Speaker 3>this fear out of you. I cannot, I cannot do

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:41.759
<v Speaker 3>that for you. But we know it's there. We know

0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:44.520
<v Speaker 3>it's there. We know there's a fear. And I'm thinking,

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting here, I'm talking to you and I and

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 3>I know and because I don't feel fear for it

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:53.759
<v Speaker 3>all right now, like you're afraid of like even just

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:56.880
<v Speaker 3>how you're being on this phone call. And I know

0:52:57.320 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 3>from my perspective that you have nothing to be afraid of.

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:06.920
<v Speaker 3>But I can't. I can't input that data from my

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:12.799
<v Speaker 3>end into your central nervous system and cause you to

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 3>not be afraid. So I don't. So I don't know,

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:18.879
<v Speaker 3>but I do know that your fear is or maybe

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:22.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know this, but work work with me here

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:26.160
<v Speaker 3>as I come up with this uh, with this, with

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:29.920
<v Speaker 3>this thing. I do know that your fear at the

0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:35.640
<v Speaker 3>very least on this call is unfounded. It's not helpful

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 3>or backed up by by anything sort of legitimate. So

0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:44.520
<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe that could mean that your fear about other

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:51.879
<v Speaker 3>things is UH is on a a sandy foundation by

0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:55.360
<v Speaker 3>But again that's all that's all information. It doesn't it

0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 3>won't compute with your central nervous system. You can't you

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 3>can't tell your you can't use logic to become unfearful

0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:07.240
<v Speaker 3>or unnervous. I've tried it myself a lot, yeah, and

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:09.440
<v Speaker 3>it never works.

0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:11.799
<v Speaker 5>It's been my problem because thats a very analytical mind

0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:15.080
<v Speaker 5>I like to break things down a lot and try

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:16.240
<v Speaker 5>to think of them logically.

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:21.759
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, okay, so you're a very analytical guy. You

0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:26.760
<v Speaker 3>break things down logically. How have you attempted to logic

0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:29.800
<v Speaker 3>yourself out of fear and has that worked?

0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 8>Like?

0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:39.520
<v Speaker 5>Uh so, I have bipolar. So it's it's it swings

0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:42.120
<v Speaker 5>of like where I feel, you know, good, and I

0:54:42.160 --> 0:54:47.200
<v Speaker 5>have those positive you know, like thinking processes. Because the

0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:49.399
<v Speaker 5>only way you can change, like the way you can

0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:55.080
<v Speaker 5>actually I don't know necessarily I feel better, like succeed

0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:58.839
<v Speaker 5>quote unquote, is if you can, you know, put your

0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:02.280
<v Speaker 5>yourself in the right mindset or set healthy mind habits

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:04.360
<v Speaker 5>and like the way of thinking that it was positive,

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:06.920
<v Speaker 5>I'll get in a good swing to that, you know,

0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:11.799
<v Speaker 5>do great then just kind of like a cycle, sell

0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:15.640
<v Speaker 5>and repeat. I've been trying to find the the the.

0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Point, you know, what's your end? Michael, Michael. Have you

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:23.359
<v Speaker 3>spoken to a real Have you spoken to a real

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:26.040
<v Speaker 3>therapist about your shoes? Oh?

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:27.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah?

0:55:27.560 --> 0:55:28.960
<v Speaker 3>And what do they tell you to do?

0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:32.719
<v Speaker 5>I'm underwent E. M.

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:33.120
<v Speaker 1>D R.

0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:35.920
<v Speaker 5>Which is like a kind of like a which it

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:40.840
<v Speaker 5>was psychotherapy and stuff. But yeah, I just have like

0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:44.520
<v Speaker 5>a lot of past traumas that was they were trying

0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:47.720
<v Speaker 5>to unload and like put away in the filing cabinet.

0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:54.880
<v Speaker 5>If you will, so mhm, yeah, well.

0:55:54.719 --> 0:55:58.160
<v Speaker 3>I think you should move I that's that'll if if,

0:55:58.200 --> 0:55:59.600
<v Speaker 3>if you, if you did come here for me to

0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:01.959
<v Speaker 3>weigh in anything, and I and I and I try

0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 3>to fucking I guess I try to weigh in as

0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 3>little as I can. But I think you should move

0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 3>right because what no, you know you don't think you

0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:15.239
<v Speaker 3>should have shouldn't. But I hope I'm not being a

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:18.239
<v Speaker 3>dick to you. I I it sounds like I'm being

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 3>a dick. I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm

0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:25.359
<v Speaker 3>saying all these things. I'm actually just saying all these

0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:28.360
<v Speaker 3>same I'm like thinking. I feel like the majority of

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:31.400
<v Speaker 3>my talking has been me just sort of thinking aloud

0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:35.000
<v Speaker 3>to myself, which maybe is maybe is being a dick.

0:56:37.239 --> 0:56:38.960
<v Speaker 3>The point is, I'm a big, fat green dick. But

0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:45.399
<v Speaker 3>I think, would you say, Michael, Michael, I think, look,

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:49.520
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the day, you're twenty two. Where

0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:51.759
<v Speaker 3>where are we moving to? Where are we moving out of?

0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 5>I had what I really wanted to like a bigger city.

0:56:58.000 --> 0:57:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Just where where where are we? Right? Now where are

0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 3>we right now?

0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:06.080
<v Speaker 5>Right now? We're fucking Central Indiana.

0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Speaker 3>We're in Central and we want to move to a

0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:10.480
<v Speaker 3>big city. What what? What? What big city? Give you

0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:12.480
<v Speaker 3>some big cities? Where where ever? We think we're going

0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:14.000
<v Speaker 3>to New York, We're going to Philly, We're going to

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:17.120
<v Speaker 3>l A. Where are we going the awesome?

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 5>I was thinking probably Seattle? And like it kind of

0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:21.920
<v Speaker 5>sounds ridiculous, Like.

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Why does it sound? Why is that your gut? That's

0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:25.240
<v Speaker 3>that's what I want to know. And I'm not a

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:28.160
<v Speaker 3>real therapist. I'm trying to be careful here, But why

0:57:28.160 --> 0:57:30.160
<v Speaker 3>why is that? Why is it? Why is it ridiculous?

0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Why is it off the bat ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, here, at least you know a lot of people.

0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:39.280
<v Speaker 7>From where I live.

0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:41.720
<v Speaker 5>At least they it's always the safety and that.

0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Kind of thing.

0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 5>They always want to you know, I don't. They don't

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:48.920
<v Speaker 5>want to go very far do big things.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike, Fuck those people. Okay, Within you, within you, I know,

0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 3>I know you have you, you've got your stuff, I

0:57:57.600 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 3>know you've got your fear. But within you, deep in,

0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.960
<v Speaker 3>and I could sense this from you from talking to you.

0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Within you, though you may have your obstacles of fear.

0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:12.360
<v Speaker 3>You have this little burning light that that desires to

0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:17.120
<v Speaker 3>uh do things in spite of those obstacles. I hear

0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:21.880
<v Speaker 3>that within you. Mike, you want to move or else

0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:23.800
<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't you, or else you wouldn't have called me.

0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't have brought it up. You wouldn't it, wouldn't

0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:29.320
<v Speaker 3>have thought, wouldn't have even come to the surface of

0:58:29.320 --> 0:58:37.120
<v Speaker 3>your mind. You want to live a more rich life,

0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:43.240
<v Speaker 3>you want new experiences. But all these fucking people in

0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 3>your Indiana town have this way of thinking that's like

0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:51.520
<v Speaker 3>rubbing off on you. Don't don't let that happen to you, Mike,

0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:55.160
<v Speaker 3>because look, I know that you're afraid. But here's the thing, dude,

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 3>is you're afraid, but you can still do these things

0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:02.400
<v Speaker 3>in spite of your fear. You know, like, yes, these

0:59:02.400 --> 0:59:06.400
<v Speaker 3>are obstacles that you have to overcome, but I still

0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:08.440
<v Speaker 3>think you could do these things in spite of them.

0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:11.040
<v Speaker 3>So you know, I don't I just I don't care

0:59:11.120 --> 0:59:15.160
<v Speaker 3>what you know, your dad, or your neighbor or your

0:59:15.200 --> 0:59:18.360
<v Speaker 3>classmate thinks about you going to Seattle. You want to go,

0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 3>I could I can tell I know I have barely

0:59:22.040 --> 0:59:24.000
<v Speaker 3>been letting you speak this entire time. But I just

0:59:24.040 --> 0:59:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I can tell that you want to go, Mike.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because now I'm at the point where I mean, like,

0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 5>I don't I don't even see myself having anything to lose,

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:39.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, I mean, I might as well try rather

0:59:39.640 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 5>than not and then being regretful and thinking about it

0:59:45.080 --> 0:59:47.600
<v Speaker 5>for the rest of my It's small, you know, like

0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 5>the rest of my existence on this rock, working at

0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:56.720
<v Speaker 5>a restaurant job or a dead end factory, because that's

0:59:56.760 --> 0:59:58.560
<v Speaker 5>all that's here is restaurant factory.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike, you should be in my Mike, I'm not a

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<v Speaker 3>real therapist, but you got it. You should be nicer

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<v Speaker 3>to yourself, man, should be nice to yourself, should give

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<v Speaker 3>yourself more credit. Because all the people around you, it

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<v Speaker 3>sounds like are are are are thinking small. But within

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<v Speaker 3>you want to think big. And I think I think

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<v Speaker 3>you should listen to listen to that voice that's thinking

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<v Speaker 3>big for your life. And and and I guess I

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<v Speaker 3>can just I can tell like you just you have

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<v Speaker 3>a thought and then you attack it with like negativity

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever whatever it is. But but but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a real therapist, and I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to pretend to be. But all I will tell

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<v Speaker 3>you Mike before we go is from talking to you again,

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<v Speaker 3>I see within uh I can. I can hear it

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<v Speaker 3>in your voice. You desire to do things in spite

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<v Speaker 3>of the obstacles to doing them that you've described to

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<v Speaker 3>me as well, so that that is within you, and

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<v Speaker 3>I believe you can overcome those obstacles.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Gek. That means a lot. It's it's good,

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<v Speaker 5>a pleasure, a great birthday. I have a good night chat.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Gonna be lurking for the foreseeable future.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Devin, Yeah, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 9>Is this Gek?

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<v Speaker 3>This is Gek, this is me?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh shit, hey man, It's an honor and privilege.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, it's a fucking honor and privilege that anyone calls

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<v Speaker 3>into this thing. So thanks for being on the phone

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<v Speaker 3>with me, Devin. What's what's going on? Is there anything

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<v Speaker 3>you want to talk about?

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<v Speaker 9>I am a real estate photographer, Okay, So anytime a

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<v Speaker 9>person is getting ready to sell and an agent reaches

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<v Speaker 9>out to me to do the marketing, and I'm a

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<v Speaker 9>pretty busy boy. I probably average four to five homes

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<v Speaker 9>a day, so you got to think that's five different

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<v Speaker 9>households five different lives. I'm just kind of walking into

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<v Speaker 9>and like kind of getting it behind the scenes look

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<v Speaker 9>really quickly. I mean you can you can only decipher

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<v Speaker 9>so much in an hour or two hour appointments. But

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<v Speaker 9>people are very They're a lot more alike than they

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<v Speaker 9>want to believe in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, you're a real estate photographer. You're constantly

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<v Speaker 3>meeting a lot of people doing this gig, and not

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<v Speaker 3>only meeting them, but meeting where they live. Meeting Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 9>Get to go into their dwelling. I mean, how crazy

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<v Speaker 9>is That's like, hey, yeah, here's my sir bedroom, this

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<v Speaker 9>is where all my possessions are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not only.

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<v Speaker 9>A big part of my job is to kind of

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<v Speaker 9>coach them to get their home looking the best it can.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know, we all live in our homes, so

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<v Speaker 9>it is kind of impossible to like make a photo

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<v Speaker 9>ready at all times. So like, not only do I

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<v Speaker 9>have to go into their home, I have to like

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<v Speaker 9>touch all of their things, which is you know, and

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<v Speaker 9>especially COVID times that's a little it's a little sensitive.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Well, real quick, I don't want to lose this

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<v Speaker 3>because I want to I want to hear what you

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<v Speaker 3>mean by this, you said, people are more like than

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<v Speaker 3>they are, people are more like than they think. What

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<v Speaker 3>what led you to that conclusion?

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<v Speaker 9>Just like, man, it's hard to put it into a word,

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<v Speaker 9>but when people like present themselves, they all do it

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<v Speaker 9>in a very similar manner. Basically, there's personality type a's

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<v Speaker 9>type BS, type c's, et cetera. And the people who

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<v Speaker 9>have like the picture perfect home and everything's immaculate, they

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<v Speaker 9>all kind of like carry each other carry themselves the

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<v Speaker 9>same exact way. They use like very similar verbiage. They

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<v Speaker 9>have very similar to pore sometimes and items and it's just,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, like I said, when you're like going into

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<v Speaker 9>these communities and you're like going into people's homes, you

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<v Speaker 9>you get to line up all the similarities very quickly.

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<v Speaker 9>And yeah, it's just it's just a kind of a

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<v Speaker 9>mind fuck. Really, like we're a lot more similar than different,

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<v Speaker 9>and we're all, I think, we're all just trying to

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<v Speaker 9>do the very very best we can.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, And.

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<v Speaker 9>A lot of a lot of what I found is

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<v Speaker 9>these families with large families, Like you know, I've I've

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<v Speaker 9>walked in the homes with like children of ten. Honestly, Like,

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<v Speaker 9>the more people there are at home, the merrier it is,

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<v Speaker 9>which is not bizarre, but it's like you would think

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<v Speaker 9>with so many different personalities there be a lot more

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<v Speaker 9>tensions or dramas, and it's kind of the opposites, like

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<v Speaker 9>the more people involve, the more helping hands there can

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<v Speaker 9>be the achieve or a tackle a problem. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 9>if you have any goals, I have big families. I

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<v Speaker 9>can tell you there's a very specific energy around that.

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<v Speaker 6>And although that sounds sounds exhausting, Brady Bunch, right, they

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<v Speaker 6>tell me that it gets a lot easier after child

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<v Speaker 6>like six, because they're all kind of starting.

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<v Speaker 9>To help a lot, and they're old. They're older, and

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<v Speaker 9>I could just takes the village.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if I were like the if I were

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<v Speaker 3>like one of the first three, I'd be pretty offended

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<v Speaker 3>if my parents had five more because because at that point,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, you're not having ten kids unless if something

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<v Speaker 3>about the first few you were just like.

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<v Speaker 9>We need to do over here, right, You're kind of

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<v Speaker 9>like the beta test.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're kind of like a beta test and then

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<v Speaker 3>there was something wrong with you where they were like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, all right, we fucked up these kids.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's try again, let's have five more.

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<v Speaker 9>God do you do you have any kids? Mister?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? God, that would be such a terrible I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I'll I don't think I'll always be a terrible parent.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think if I had a kid by a

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<v Speaker 3>kid right now, like if a kid popped out of

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<v Speaker 3>my dick hole immediately, yeah I would, it would he

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<v Speaker 3>would not be having a good life right now.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I'm a parent of two kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Your parents, well, oh well, you can't call it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a little blasted first. But you you like them both?

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<v Speaker 3>Do they like each other?

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<v Speaker 9>You know, there's six and three. They're so different. I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>I love them both the same. There is a big

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<v Speaker 9>difference between boys and girls, in my opinion. Boys are

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<v Speaker 9>a lot more They're a lot more physical learners, so

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<v Speaker 9>they need to touch everything, pull everything apart, jump off

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<v Speaker 9>the couch to learn about gravity, you know, get the

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<v Speaker 9>bunk on the head, that kind of stuff. When girls

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<v Speaker 9>are a little more in tune with like like they're

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<v Speaker 9>smarter in a sense, like they actually get reality as

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<v Speaker 9>it comes in and can decipher it just through observation,

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<v Speaker 9>I would say, And.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have to touch pain on them if it's dry.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, no, they like, oh, obviously paint is wet. You

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<v Speaker 9>just put it up. It's still wet. Let's not touch that,

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<v Speaker 9>you know. So, but there's with boys, it's a little

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<v Speaker 9>harder in the beginning to because you know, they break

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<v Speaker 9>everything and that's just part of it. And people don't

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<v Speaker 9>really tell you this as someone who doesn't have kids.

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<v Speaker 9>They just say, well, have kids, it's great. They don't

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<v Speaker 9>let you know, like, hey, you're going to like literally

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<v Speaker 9>question everything in life by having kids and watch them

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<v Speaker 9>just destroy everything around you that you built and that

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<v Speaker 9>you loved. And it's just part of the process of

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<v Speaker 9>being a good parents, like having the biggest thing I've

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<v Speaker 9>probably gained through being a parent is patience. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 9>kind of like the zen Master at this moment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>just because you have to be. You have to be.

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<v Speaker 9>They test you. Man, there, it's hard. Being a parent

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<v Speaker 9>is not easy, and especially if you're trying to set

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<v Speaker 9>them up to be a better version of you, because

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<v Speaker 9>I think that's all we kind of really want is

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<v Speaker 9>to do a little bit better than our parents said,

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<v Speaker 9>not a ton, just leave a little bit, you know.

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<v Speaker 9>It's like, hey, if I never got a car, growing

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<v Speaker 9>up as a teenager. So I want to be able

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<v Speaker 9>to leave them a car just because I know like

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<v Speaker 9>it can be an enabling force to make him more successful,

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<v Speaker 9>like speed up the timeline for them. That's like when

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<v Speaker 9>I can't step in and spoil them with like finances,

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<v Speaker 9>it's only to like speed up the timeline.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not to.

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<v Speaker 9>Actually spoil them. It's to be like, hey, you don't

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<v Speaker 9>need to have this much of a struggle here you go.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's nice of you to try to provide

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<v Speaker 3>them with the things that you didn't have when you

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<v Speaker 3>were growing up.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it does feel good, It really does.

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<v Speaker 3>HM. So you said you've had a lot of patience.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like this patience it comes from like a

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<v Speaker 3>patience by fire sort of sort of way. Like it's

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<v Speaker 3>like you got to develop patience or else you will, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you will lose.

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<v Speaker 9>No, that's absolutely it. Yeah you have to.

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<v Speaker 3>What about what about your h Do you have a

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<v Speaker 3>partner of some kind? Are they involved in this? Or

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<v Speaker 3>are you raising the kids yourself?

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<v Speaker 9>Do you have a lovely wife?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 9>I feel like, you know, and it's so weird. I'm

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<v Speaker 9>thirty five years old. I'm looking at these younger kids

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<v Speaker 9>who you know, and I get the whole, like tender

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<v Speaker 9>apps and the Internet of things and having that immediacy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>but they're not learning. They're not learning how to like

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<v Speaker 9>build anything long term or like actually deal with shit,

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<v Speaker 9>because when you can just say peace out and go

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<v Speaker 9>to the next person until you need to say peace

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<v Speaker 9>out again, you're not really facing that challenge and like

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<v Speaker 9>overcoming it and growing. You're just you're to me, you're

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<v Speaker 9>just damaging yourself or you're just you know, hindering your

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<v Speaker 9>own growth as a personally.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that Do you think that having multiple

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<v Speaker 3>partners instead of just sticking to one person is actively damaging?

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<v Speaker 9>It really depends. I mean, I was raised in a

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<v Speaker 9>fairly conservative household. I've never really been a fan of authority.

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<v Speaker 9>My father was law enforcement, so that I did not

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<v Speaker 9>like that. Growing up very fucking strict, insanely strict.

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<v Speaker 3>And are you are you significantly less strict?

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<v Speaker 9>You know, I don't know yet because the kind of

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<v Speaker 9>strictness I'm talking about. You don't really have to deal

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<v Speaker 9>with those things until like later in life. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>there's six and three. There's not much they can do

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<v Speaker 9>other than destroying my stuff. Just by not understanding.

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<v Speaker 3>Have they been destroying your stuff's been on understanding?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh dude, thousands my sons destroyed thousands of my gear

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<v Speaker 9>is not cheap.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, what's he doing? What's is he fucking with

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<v Speaker 3>the cameras.

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<v Speaker 9>And cameras, monitors, drive button mouth and stuff. No? No, okay,

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<v Speaker 9>So he like literally shoved my iMac and my like

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<v Speaker 9>three thousand dollars twenty terbyte hard dripe just off the desk,

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<v Speaker 9>just wanted it off.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's off.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank God for insurance.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is why I'm not. I can't have a kid.

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<v Speaker 9>You just have to like baby proof, baby proof more

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<v Speaker 9>than you because I thought it was babyproofed. No, he

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<v Speaker 9>showed me he got into the office. And that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 9>It really depends on your kid, if they're really like,

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<v Speaker 9>if they're really not to say, he's like really intelligent,

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<v Speaker 9>but he just figures it out. That would never think

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<v Speaker 9>he could figure out. You know, this was an interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>This was an interesting sort of look into you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a you know, what I like about doing this

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<v Speaker 3>is that we have all kinds of people call in, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I talked to a guy yesterday and then

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<v Speaker 3>I used on Monday, who is your age? And he

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<v Speaker 3>was like, you know, I'm gonna I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a wife or kids or a job or anything

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<v Speaker 3>like that. I'm just gonna peace out and become a nomad.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I have I have people who are you know,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to live that sort of traditional life, right. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's people who are all sorts of lives and have

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<v Speaker 3>all sorts of desires, of all sorts of ages. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's very cool to hear it's and it just always

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<v Speaker 3>instills into me that there is no one correct way

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<v Speaker 3>to do it. You know, everyone's wired differently, everyone has

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<v Speaker 3>different paths to their own happiness, and it's very cool

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<v Speaker 3>to see, Like, like I think, you know, would you

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<v Speaker 3>say that if if you didn't have your wife and

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<v Speaker 3>your children and your job, and you were just sort

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<v Speaker 3>of wandering around visiting new places all by yourself, You know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you would be if I.

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<v Speaker 9>Was okay, if I was no, because I could totally see,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, like I've always gravitated towards the arts, so

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<v Speaker 9>I could pick up a guitar and draw a crowd

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<v Speaker 9>or a piano or whatever I need to do. And

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<v Speaker 9>this whole experience with like generating revenue from my creativity

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<v Speaker 9>with the photography, I could see like, man, if I

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<v Speaker 9>was single, I could just like live out of a

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<v Speaker 9>van because all my I mean my gears. It is expensive,

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<v Speaker 9>but it's like the the footprint of it's very small.

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<v Speaker 9>So I only need like a pelican case worth of

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<v Speaker 9>gear and a laptop and I'm able to generate six

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<v Speaker 9>figures wherever I want. So, you know, having that kind

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<v Speaker 9>of freedom, Yeah, stude, I'm I'm incredibly incredibly kids.

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<v Speaker 3>But the but the con is that your your son

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<v Speaker 3>won't be there to take your guitar and and throw

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<v Speaker 3>it off a cliff.

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<v Speaker 9>And mash it. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean and that's

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<v Speaker 9>you know, that's and that's the whole thing. It's like,

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<v Speaker 9>if that were to happen, sure it sucks, but do

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<v Speaker 9>it makes a good story. So you have to think

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<v Speaker 9>on the flip side, you know, like think about the

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<v Speaker 9>badass story or yeah, you gotta be like, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 9>at the Grand Canyon and you know, I just got

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<v Speaker 9>done with the job and took the kids out and

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<v Speaker 9>pick the guitar, and Liam grabbed it and started playing

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<v Speaker 9>and then immediately threw it off the freaking down the Cliff,

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<v Speaker 9>it makes a badass story kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Devin, Also, I appreciate you, uh sharing your perspective

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<v Speaker 3>with us. It's definitely as I said, it's very interesting

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<v Speaker 3>to get all these different callers, different perspectives on things,

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<v Speaker 3>and hear from everyone at different states in their journey

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<v Speaker 3>to whatever it is that they're looking for. If it's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, uh, just general calmness or stability or adventure

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<v Speaker 3>or or whatever it is, it's uh, it's very interesting

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<v Speaker 3>to hear your take on all this, man is Is

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<v Speaker 3>there anything else you want to say to the to

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<v Speaker 3>the people before we go?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, just do you like a hundred if you want

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<v Speaker 9>to be a doctor, do that grind at the college

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<v Speaker 9>and get that awesome piece of paper and grind. Also,

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<v Speaker 9>medical industry is gay, But if you want to do that,

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<v Speaker 9>do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you say the medical industry?

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<v Speaker 9>Do we need we need medical reform in this country? Crazy?

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<v Speaker 9>That's another thing. Going to all these people's homes, I

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<v Speaker 9>can't tell you how many people have fucking pills upon

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<v Speaker 9>pills upon pills upon It breaks my freaking heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you did you say did you say the medical

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<v Speaker 3>industry was gay?

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<v Speaker 1>Or what?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you say it was not not.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I mean that's probably the wrong word. It's it's

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<v Speaker 9>medical industry is a scam.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh for lack of a I I didn't understand what

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<v Speaker 3>you were saying.

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<v Speaker 9>It's not literally homosexual.

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<v Speaker 3>No, okay, that's why I thought. That's why I thought

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<v Speaker 3>you I was confused.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah I was, but no, just you know, go for

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<v Speaker 9>go for the shoot for the stars, like if you

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<v Speaker 9>if you want to be a creative mind, go to college,

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<v Speaker 9>find people equally as passionate about you as you and

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<v Speaker 9>actually just create with them as someone will notice. That's

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<v Speaker 9>all it takes. All this is about is the enriching

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<v Speaker 9>each other's lives, and if you can tap into any

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<v Speaker 9>facet of that, you're going to be lucrative and you're

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<v Speaker 9>gonna be successful.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Devin, no matter what, gek bless you help you

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<v Speaker 3>continue your climb into the Republican tax bracket. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>pleasure talking.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, get keep on keep an eye man, Thank you man.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk to you soon. H You know what, I I

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate that. I am you know what. The medical industry. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's right, it's it's a little gay at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>He's he's he had a point. He had a point.

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<v Speaker 4>Goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything goes to his teaching you cloud line that he's

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<v Speaker 3>not really an expert.