1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Real America's Voice News. This is Sunday the 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Road Forward. We have a lot to talk about this 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: week as we give thanks and look to Thanksgiving. As always, 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: a word of open encouragement for you those you love. 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm doctor Tim Clinton. I'll be your host our special 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: guest Young this week. He's the lead pastor of New 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Life Church International in Plant City, Florida. Bishop Calvin colbertis 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: is with us, and he is senior pastor of Cole 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Rich Presbyterian Church. Doctor Rob pascienzas with us. He's the 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: President of American Bodies and Senior vice President for Public 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: Policy for the Doctor James Staupton Family Institute. Gary Bauer 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: is back. He's a retired Air Force Brigadier general with 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: decades of experiences a chaplain and pastor. Chaplain Bob Page 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: is with us. Thanks for watching. ICE announced this week 15 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: a brand new operation to conduct welfare checks on the 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty plus thousand children that the Biden 17 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: administration placed with unvetted sponsors, some of whom were sex traffickers, 18 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: gang members, and abusers. Every child rescued is a reminder 19 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: of why we do this, said FBI Director Cash Bettel. 20 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,639 Speaker 1: Authorities in Florida rescued one hundred and twenty two missing 21 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: and exploited children in one of the largest child recovery 22 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: operations in US history. Social media was blowing up this 23 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: week also over the Epstein files. The bill compelling Attorney 24 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: General Pam Bondy to make all unclassified records on Jeffrey 25 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: Epstein public has now passed both chambers of Congress, and 26 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: we'll head to President Trump's desk for his signature. It's 27 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: going to be quite interesting for individuals like Bill and 28 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, who are refused to appear before the House 29 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: Oversight Committee for their depositions regarding Jeffrey Epstein. Many are 30 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: asking about President Trump and the Epstein files. Gary Bauer said, 31 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: We've reportedly pointed out that if there was any dirt 32 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: on Donald Trump and the Epstein files, it would have 33 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: been released by the Biden administration because they had the 34 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: files for four years and they didn't release anything. Operation 35 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: Charlotte's Web has caught the attention of the nation this week. 36 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: A number of rests are happening. Bad dudes in Charlotte, 37 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: North Carolina, Carolina area being arrested. Hey, but there's also 38 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: a lot of anti ice protesting going on. The raging 39 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: left continues, assaults on federal agents are up massively. Pretty unbelievable, really, 40 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: And it's that time of the year to slow it down, 41 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: take a break, and enjoy Thanksgiving. 42 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: A little history. 43 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: Fall of sixteen twenty one, the Pilgrims met Plymouth Colony 44 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: held a three day feast. Many regard that is the 45 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: very first Thanksgiving. Then it was in seventeen eighty one 46 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: that George Washington was the first to give a Thanksgiving 47 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: Day proclamation. Eighteen sixty three, President Abraham Lincoln declared the 48 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: last Thursday of November as a National Day of Thanksgiving, 49 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: an American tradition. Hey, and it's a record travel week 50 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: in America. Per Triple A, they are projecting eighty two 51 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: million people will travel at least fifty miles from their 52 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: home over the Thanksgiving holiday period from Tuesday November twenty 53 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: five through Monday, December one. This year's domestic travel forecast 54 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: includes an additional one point six million travelers compared to 55 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: last Thanksgiving, setting a new overall record. Pretty amazing. Thanksgiving 56 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: is the most busy travel holiday of the year. Hey, 57 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: here's some thoughts from the Bible to anchor our week. 58 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: The apostle Paul wrote in One Thessalonians five eighteen and 59 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: everything give thanks. This is the will of God in 60 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: Christ Jesus concerning you Psalm one hundred, verse four and five. 61 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: Say this, Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and do 62 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: his court with praise, and be thankful to him. Bless 63 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: his name. For the Lord is good, and his mercy 64 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: is everlasting, and his truth endures. 65 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: To all generations. I love that. 66 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Hey, we're gonna pray, We're gonna get started. God be 67 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: with us. Thank you for your goodness and grace in 68 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: our lives. God help us to all slow it down 69 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: and to give thanks and enjoy family and friends and 70 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: the blessings in our lives. Pray a special blessing over 71 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: our program today. Use it for your glory in Jesus' name. Amen, 72 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: let's get started. 73 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim 74 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a 75 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 3: part of your life. 76 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: Joys Now is Bishop Calvin Colberts. Bishop Colberts currently serves 77 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: as lead pastor of New Life Church International and Plant City, Florida. 78 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: He's a member of the National Faith Advisory Board he's 79 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: a strong voice for righteousness and culture. Bishop, welcome back, 80 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. 81 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: For joining me. 82 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me, doctor Clinton. 83 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: Bishop, Happy Thanksgiving week, my friend. It's time to slow 84 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: it down a little bit and get dialed in for 85 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: the holidays. What are you thinking about? What are you 86 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: planning for the holiday season. 87 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 5: I'm just planning to enjoy family. It has been a 88 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 5: busy and productive year, and just to slow down, reflect 89 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 5: and just also my thanksgiving unto the lower for all 90 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 5: that he's done and doing. 91 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: Bishop, we all knew it was going to be a 92 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: wild year. It started last year with the election and 93 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: my goodness, you know, come the inauguration January twentieth, and 94 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: it has been Katie bar the door. Because it's been 95 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: a wild ride, Bishop, a lot of great things happening. Bishop, 96 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: is still a lot of unrest, some division in the country. 97 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: Just your kind of take on where you think we're at, 98 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: where you think we're going. 99 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 5: I think you've laid it out business. There's a lot 100 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 5: of division in the country. However, that is to be 101 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 5: expected when you're trying to reveal the truth and the 102 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 5: devil is into details and what we're seeing happen in 103 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 5: our governate government today is those details are coming to light. 104 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 5: Many of the things that the campaign was about to 105 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 5: let the nation know what was happening are being revealed, 106 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 5: and that's why the riot is wild. 107 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bishop, that open border situation interesting piece this week, 108 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: this halt lost Kids issue. The Trump administration ICE announced 109 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: the brand new operation to find these kids, do welfare 110 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: checks on them. In other words, nearly five hundred thousand 111 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: children placed with some bad people, unvetted sponsors, people who 112 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 1: were even sex traffickers, gang members, abusers, and more shocking. 113 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: Cash Bertel said every child rescued as a reminder that 114 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: of why they do the work, and they rescued I 115 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: think one hundred and twenty two kids in Florida alone recently. Bishop, 116 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable how crazy that open border mess was 117 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: and still is. 118 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 5: Right, I mean, the open border was regious in every way, 119 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 5: and thank god that the President came in with that 120 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 5: as the top of his agenda item and a lot 121 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 5: of people midnimize what was going on at the borders 122 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 5: and the crime and the criminal activity that was taking place. 123 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 5: But again, I'm glad that this stuff is coming to 124 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 5: surface so that people are seeing the truth and the 125 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 5: need for it to be secured. 126 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Bishop's basically an invasion. And what's really stunning is all 127 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: the bad people they let in. And you really start 128 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: thinking about it was about getting votes, you know that, 129 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: and playing a game. Now, look what's happening up in 130 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: New York City everything else, Bishop, It's beyond the pale. 131 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they're playing a game at the safety 132 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 5: of the American people and just to get votes. And again, 133 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 5: that's why I'm glad that this stuff is coming to surface, 134 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 5: is coming to light. You're seeing the game players that 135 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 5: was involved in the background and making these things happen. 136 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 5: And I'm just glad for our president being bold and 137 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 5: confident in getting this work done to protect our borders 138 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 5: and to basically protect the American citizens. 139 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: Bishop, this raging violent left stuff. You know, they always 140 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: were trying to paint conservatives as being violent, you know, 141 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: in the last administration. How we're watching it, it's unbelievable. 142 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: I saw where ICE agents they had bounties like they 143 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: were placing on their heads for like ten thousand bucks 144 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: up in Chicago. This week, we've seen a lot of 145 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: quote unrest and push back against ICE agents in Charlotte 146 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: with this Charlotte's Web thing that's going down there, and 147 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: social media is blowing up over but it's just it's 148 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: crazy to think people out there trying to defend these 149 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: bad dudes. 150 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: You hear what I'm saying. 151 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: We're just trying to get get those people out of 152 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: the country. People who's scare us in our bedroom communities. 153 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 5: Yes, And that's it's just unfortunate again to see the 154 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 5: position of these individuals and offending these bad dudes and 155 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 5: standing up for the horrific things that have been done 156 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 5: against the American people. And again that's why I'm so 157 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 5: glad that this administration is taking the forefront and executing 158 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 5: every order that is possible to get this stuff out 159 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 5: of our country and to address those issues so that 160 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 5: we can make America safe again. 161 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bishop, is Thanksgiving week. It's a week where we 162 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: slow it down, a time to do some soul searching reflection, 163 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: certainly getting into that attitude of gratitude, thanking God for 164 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: his goodness and grace, so taste and see that the 165 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: Lord is good and as mercy endures forever. As a pastor, bishop, 166 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: a shepherding of flock, and just even on personal reflection 167 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: about God's goodness and grace. And you've been on both 168 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: sides of the river. You understand pain, you understand brokenness. Bishop, 169 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: but I've seen you just swell with I mean love 170 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: and graciousness in your heart towards the Lord because of 171 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: his favor, even towards you. But Biship, just some reflections 172 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: from you and for all of us as we move 173 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: into the holiday season. 174 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 6: Again, thank you for this moment, Doctor Clinton. 175 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 5: I was telling my children on the way to school 176 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 5: this morning at our devotion, never forget to say thank you. 177 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 5: People don't have to be nice, and even God is 178 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 5: good because he's God. But yet our response to his 179 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 5: goodness should always be thankfulness. No matter the tact, pain, 180 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 5: the severity of the challenge, God is still good. Right now, personally, 181 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 5: my mother has dementia, and we just learned that she 182 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 5: has a termin disease cancer. And while I have been 183 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 5: emotionally challenged by that over the last few weeks, what 184 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 5: gives me a peace is because she has dementia, she's 185 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 5: not even aware of what's going on in her physical body. 186 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 5: Was God reminded me of the peace that all of 187 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 5: us should have. That my mother, who is cognitively challenged, 188 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 5: is not aware of the tumoil going on in her body, 189 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 5: but yet because of her memory loss, she's at peace. 190 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 5: And I say to everyone listening today, be at peace 191 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 5: as you reflect upon the goodness of God. No matter 192 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 5: how bad it has been, God has been good and 193 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 5: is going to get better because God is involved in it. 194 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: This will be thankful. 195 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bishop, it's interesting. In the psychological research world, there's 196 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: been a lot of focus on gratitude and just learning 197 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: to and I hate to use that kind of cachet phrase, 198 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: an attitude of gratitude, but there is something about being thankful. Yes, 199 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: it changes so much. I mean, the research is astounding, astounding. 200 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: If you can learn to say thank you have that 201 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: spirit of gratefulness toward God toward other people again, it 202 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: changes you. It changes your body chemistry. It does so much. 203 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: It relieves you of stress and anxiety and so much more. Bishop, 204 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: What do you think is in it that really does 205 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: that to us, that helps calm and soothe and kind 206 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: of give rest to our souls. 207 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 5: I think what's in it is happiness and contentment is 208 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 5: based and predicated upon circumstances, but the joy of the 209 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 5: Lord is strengthened by our relationship with God. And because 210 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 5: we have a relationship with God despite all of the 211 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 5: things that may go on around us or within us, 212 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 5: that gratefulness and thankfulness comes from the strength of the 213 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 5: joy that we have in our hearts, that comes from 214 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 5: a relationship with God. And giving that gratitude and the 215 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 5: Lord gives a satisfaction and a peace that brings a 216 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 5: calming and and and and a reliance to know that 217 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 5: all is well and all will be well as we 218 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 5: continue to put our trust in God. So that's what 219 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 5: the attitude of gratitude is all about. The joy of 220 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 5: the Lord strengthens us through that gratitude. 221 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: Bishop, a lot of people are going to be going home. 222 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: It's our most favorite destination during Thanksgiving holidays. It's, by 223 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: the way, the busiest travel holiday of the year. Eighty 224 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: two million people are going travel fifty miles or more 225 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: to go home. 226 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: Bishop. 227 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: When you get home, you might find a couple of 228 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: people there that maybe you know, it's an interesting time 229 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: to get along together. But Bishop, somewhere, put differences aside 230 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: and hug on and love on each other. Bring that gratitude, 231 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: if you will, to the table. There's good things that 232 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: can happen any wisdom from you just as we go here. 233 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, thank god the government shutdowns in 234 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 5: that people can travel and it could be a lot better. 235 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: It's up one point six million, one point six more 236 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: million people are traveling this year according to Triple A. 237 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: It's amazing, it's amazing. 238 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 5: It's amazing. So when you get your destination, if you're 239 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 5: not of the same party of filiation, don't talk about politics, 240 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 5: just talk about family. Just talk about the great things 241 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 5: that's going on with the kids. Just enjoy a great 242 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 5: holiday together away from any controversial topic that will cause 243 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 5: you to end and everybody just bursting and going to 244 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 5: separate ways. So just reflect on you, reflect on the 245 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 5: goodness of God and enjoy one another. 246 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: Hey, Bishop, you eat turkey your ham on Thanksgiving Day. 247 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 5: I take care of them both. 248 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: Bishop, so great to see happy Thanksgiving. Thank you for 249 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: enjoying it. Blessure my friend. 250 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 6: Bless you. 251 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: Coming up next, Senior Pastor of Cole Ridge Presbyterian Church, 252 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: Doctor Rob Passienza's with us. 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He 280 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: is the senior pastor of Coal Ridge Presbyterian Church in 281 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale, Florida, the CEO and President of coal Ridge Ministries, 282 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: and the founder of the Institute for Faith and Culture. 283 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: Doctor Potsienza, thank. 284 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: You for joining me. 285 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 4: It's a real privilege. 286 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: He as we get started, Rob, Happy Thanksgiving to you. 287 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: And it's a time I think where we come together 288 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: as families, hey, as a nation, reflect on the goodness 289 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: and grace of God. While we know there are a 290 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: lot of challenging issues and things happening in our country 291 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: right now, there's a lot to be thankful for. 292 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: Rob. 293 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: I just saw reflections from you on where you think 294 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: we're at and where we're going as a. 295 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: Nation, certainly, and thank you once again for having me on. 296 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 4: When I think about this Thanksgiving in particular, and particularly 297 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: on the eve of the two hundred and fiftieth Birthday 298 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: of America, there's been a lot of talk about making 299 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 4: America great again, but I think we need to remember 300 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 4: what made America great in the first place, who was 301 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 4: the providential hand of God? Before there was a declaration 302 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 4: of independence, there was a great awakening and a revival. 303 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 4: And I really do believe that as we enter into 304 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six with grateful hearts, I think we have 305 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 4: an opportunity again to seek the favor and the wisdom 306 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 4: of God, to humble ourselves as a people, and to 307 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 4: be grateful for what God is doing. Because I think 308 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 4: what we see not only in Washington, d c. But 309 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 4: in the heartland of America, pastors rising up and speaking 310 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: biblical truth, seeing more and more young people coming to church. 311 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 4: Bible reading is up, Bible sales are up, so so 312 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: much to be thankful for. I think we are seeing 313 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: the beginning of a movement of taking this nation back, 314 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 4: not through political strength, but crying out to Almighty God 315 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 4: to make our nation great again. 316 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: A lot of people are asking, Rob do you think 317 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: faith will shape the next chapter of our country? Because 318 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: there is so much happening, and you're right. I saw 319 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: some Barner research that came out and said, in particularly 320 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: a young men are coming back to God or coming 321 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: to Christ, and how exciting it is. And a lot 322 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: of people are talking about revival in our country. I 323 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: think I'm seeing a lot of it, but just your reflections. 324 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think faith has to play a role in it. 325 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 4: I actually believe that we're nearing the end of secularism, 326 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 4: that age that we experienced, particularly in the West and 327 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 4: in America, that said, believe whatever you want to believe, 328 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 4: get God out of the public square, get go out 329 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 4: of the public education. And we're moving into a very 330 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 4: interesting time in our nation where I either believe what 331 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 4: I call neo paganism, all of the ideologies that we're 332 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: seeing coming out of the progressive left, or it's going 333 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 4: to be a Christian worldview that takes a hold of 334 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 4: the public square, takes a hold of our cultural centers 335 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: of influence. And I am hopeful as we're seeing young 336 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 4: men return to church, we're seeing, as I said before, 337 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 4: pastors speaking out boldly from the pulpit, I am praying 338 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 4: that it's Christianity and the Christian worldview that shaped this 339 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 4: nation two hundred and fifty years ago that rises to 340 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 4: the top and fills that void and fills the bankruptcy 341 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 4: that secularism has left us with here in America. 342 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: We came through some pretty tough years. Rob had got dark, 343 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: and people of faith were being pressed at every turn, 344 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: even branded as domestic terrorists and being put in prison. 345 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: People worried about where their kid's going to grow up 346 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: in America that they grew up in, Rob. We're seeing 347 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: also some pretty significant pushbacks, some raging left stuff, rising violence. 348 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: Obviously the assassination of our friend Charlie Kirk and what 349 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: happened there. I know that really was in your heart. 350 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: And people have this fear piece at the same time, 351 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: like this faith factor and this fear factor because they 352 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: they're concerned about the open borders and terrors possibly being 353 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: in our bedroom communities, things like that. 354 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: All those factors. 355 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: Come together and they're kind of waiting for the next 356 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: proverbial shoot to fall. But at the same time, there's 357 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: an energy or excitement about, Hey, maybe God's doing something 358 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: in America two fifty and faith is coming back, and Rob, 359 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: how do you temper that? 360 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: How do you encourage people? 361 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: Well, the good thing is we don't have to open 362 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 4: up or develop a new playbook. We actually open up 363 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 4: the playbook, the ultimate playbook that was written by God himself, 364 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 4: and it's in the Word that we find the answer. 365 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 4: We find the antidote to fear, and the answer to 366 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 4: fear is the presence of God. It's relying on our faith. 367 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 4: It's having a spirit of thanksgiving and supplication that guards 368 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 4: our hearts and minds in Christ Jesus. So we want 369 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 4: to drive away the fear, We want to drive away anxiety. 370 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 4: We don't have to look to a new age virtual 371 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: guru to tell us how to do that. We look 372 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 4: to God's word and we say, God, will you fill 373 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 4: me with your presence? Will you fill me with faith? 374 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 4: Will I learn to practice gratitude. I just got done 375 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 4: talking to our church staff, our church thanksgiving feasts that 376 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 4: we have every year, and I talked about the importance 377 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: of practicing gratitude, not just one day a year, but 378 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 4: every day a year. The more we practice gratitude, the 379 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: more our faith increases, the more our anxiety decreases, and 380 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 4: we are filled with the presence of Almighty God that 381 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 4: Paul promises will guard our hearts and minds in Christ Jesus. 382 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: You know when the Pilgrims landed in Plymouth Rock and 383 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: they were so grateful. I can't even imagine what it 384 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: would have been like to be bold and courageous back 385 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: in those days. Rob but they came in with the 386 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 1: Native Americans and came together for that very first feast, 387 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: I guess you would say, and people regarded it as 388 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: the first Thanksgiving in sixteen twenty one. But religious liberty, 389 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: that's what they were pursuing, and they wanted to honor 390 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: and thank God for his goodness and grace. When you 391 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: look at Thanksgiving, you have to step back and realize, 392 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: this is an American tradition, is what it's all about, 393 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: and it's anchored in what our faith. That's what this 394 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: is about. Rob your reflections on Thanksgiving. You just spoke 395 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: to your team there, but I know, as a pastor, 396 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: what are you sharing with your people? 397 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: Well, I think the secular left would have us believe 398 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 4: that the First Thanksgiving was a feast of oppression, a 399 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: feast of prosperity. But when you read the journals, when 400 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: you read the early writings of our fathers, our Pilgrim fathers, 401 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 4: we see that it was a feast of providence, providence 402 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 4: of Almighty God. Recognizing that the only way, the only 403 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 4: explanation for how the Pilgrims could have survived escaping England, 404 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: eventually escaping Holland, crossing the Atlantic and into the new world. 405 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: The only explanation is the providential hand of Almighty God, 406 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 4: and so we need to remember that that's what Thanksgiving is. 407 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 4: It in a celebration of God's providence, God's providence for 408 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 4: our first founding fathers, the Pilgrims, and our founding fathers 409 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 4: in the eighteenth century, and we need to two hundred 410 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 4: and fifty years later, continue to be grateful for the 411 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 4: providential hand of God. This is not only an American holiday, 412 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 4: it is a Christian holiday where we are celebrating the 413 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: right to freely exercise our religion and relying on the 414 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 4: providence of God throughout every season of this nation. 415 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: Rob we know the holidays are upon us, and they 416 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: are obviously it's a wonderful time of the year. It 417 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: can also be a pretty challenging time, difficult time for some. 418 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: Maybe they're coming into this particular Thanksgiving, the guests around 419 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: the table, family around the table. Maybe there's someone missing, 420 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: they're going through a season of difficulty financially or whatever 421 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: it is. You know you're only a phone call away 422 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: from a disaster, pastor how do you encourage people to 423 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: kind of rise above it, maybe put a bridge over it, 424 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: which is so hard. 425 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 4: I think it's a great question, and it's important why 426 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 4: we not only practice gratitude and thanksgiving the last Thursday 427 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 4: in November, but why as Christians in particular, we need 428 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 4: to practice gratitude three hundred and sixty five days a year. 429 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 4: Gratitude is such an important virtue, not only for the 430 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 4: American citizen, but for the Christian. This is something that 431 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 4: has guided the people of God. We see in the 432 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 4: Old and New Testament scriptures. As soon as the people 433 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,239 Speaker 4: of God forgot about God, and they forgot about the 434 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 4: hand of God and the provision of God, they began 435 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: to grumble, they began to complain, and they began to sin, 436 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 4: they began to stumble. But as soon as they continue 437 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 4: to remember about God and they practice gratitude, it protected 438 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 4: their heart and their mind, it protected their soul. So 439 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 4: I would say this is the reason why we need 440 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 4: to always be reflective of how God has provided, why 441 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 4: we need to be practicing gratitude all the time, because 442 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 4: it's on your worst day where maybe you fail to 443 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 4: believe that God is for you, that you're able to 444 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 4: go back to that reservoir of memories and that reservoir 445 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: of gratitude that you've been practicing and be reminded. No, 446 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: it's a lie of the devil that God's against me 447 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 4: if I'm in Christ, that God is for me on 448 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: my best days. God is for me on my worst days. 449 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 4: But it's practicing gratitude all the time that trains our 450 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 4: heart and mind to not allow it to despair and 451 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: not allow it to go into dark places. I think 452 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 4: this is all the more the reason why we need 453 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 4: to cling to Christ. And I would just say to 454 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 4: your audience, if you don't know Jesus Christ as your 455 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 4: Lord and Savior, that this would be a moment where 456 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: you can look to Him by faith. That the world 457 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 4: is hard, that life is full of struggles, but it's 458 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 4: through Jesus that he allows us not only to be 459 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 4: sustained and to survive this life and flourish in this 460 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 4: life with life to the full, both now and forever. 461 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad, who was a pastor for nearly sixty 462 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: years in the hills of central Pennsylvania, Rubb he would say, Tim, 463 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: go with God, go with him and he will see 464 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: you through. And he looked at me and when he 465 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: was in his that phase where God was taking him home, 466 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: he said, Tim, it's because of him, I'll see you 467 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: again and we hold on to that hope. 468 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: That's what this is all about. Rob. 469 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 1: If people want to learn more about you and the 470 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: ministry and how they might follow you, what have you 471 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: Maybe I learned about some of the writings you have. 472 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: Where can they go? 473 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, they can go to Coridge Ministry's website, which is 474 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 4: simply CRM dot tv. You can also go to our 475 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 4: streaming platform, watch dot CRM dot tv. We have books, documentaries, 476 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 4: television programs all about helping people understand does your faith 477 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 4: play a role in this cultural moment? And it does, 478 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: and so all of our species, all of our resources 479 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 4: help point people in that direction. Go to CRM dot 480 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: tv or watch dot CNRM dot tv. 481 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: Doctor Rob Posienza, Happy Thanksgiving, my friend, Thank. 482 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: You for joining me. Thanksgiving to you coming up next. 483 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: He's the president of American Values and Senior vice president 484 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: for Public Policy for the Doctor James Staupton Family Institute. 485 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: Gary Bauer is back. 486 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: For more encouragement and to stay connected. Follow doctor Tim 487 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a 488 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: part of your life. 489 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: Johnny's now is Gary Bauer. 490 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: Bauer served in President Ronald Reagan's administration for eight years 491 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: as Undersecretary of Education and Chief Domestic Policy Advisor. Today, 492 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: he serves as president of American Values and Educational nonprofit 493 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: based in Washington, DC. He's also senior vice president of 494 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: public policy for the Doctor James Stopson Family. 495 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: In to Gary. 496 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. 497 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 2: Gary. Thanks for joining me. 498 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 7: Hey, thanks so good to be with you, and Happy 499 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 7: Thanksgiving to you. This is a wonderful holiday. I really 500 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 7: love it. 501 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: That's one of my favorites. Gary was one of my 502 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: dad's favorites too. You know, it's the time of the 503 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: year where you can come together. You don't have to 504 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: worry about bringing presents or anything like that. You're just 505 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: coming to thank God for his goodness and grace. And Gary, 506 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: by the way, that's been a wild year. It's been 507 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: unbelievable ever since we got a new sheriff in town 508 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: January twentieth. A lot happening, but Gary, also a lot 509 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: to be thankful. 510 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 7: For, no question about it. You know, I love reading 511 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 7: the old history books, said Tim. You know they talk 512 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 7: about the mayflower, you know, just the fact that they 513 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 7: would come across the Atlantic Ocean and something that today 514 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 7: you know it was no carnival cruise, right, This was 515 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 7: a very dangerous thing. And what did the men and 516 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 7: women on that ship do. As soon as they see land? 517 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 7: They make this mayflower comp had this mayflower compact where 518 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 7: they dedicate all their efforts to God. They say that 519 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 7: they want to come to the new Land to plant 520 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 7: the cross of Christ and define seek and fine religious liberty. 521 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 7: So even before we weren't even a nation, we were 522 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 7: still just in the beginning. This is over four hundred 523 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 7: years ago. Christianity and faith in God and the following 524 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 7: of Jesus Christ played an integral part in the beginning 525 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 7: of America and it's gone on from then, this wonderful 526 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 7: history of God's hand on America. And Tom, you know, Tim, 527 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 7: you mentioned that we got a new sheriff in town. 528 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 7: The last guy that was in town kept issuing Christmas 529 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 7: proclamations and Thanksgiving proclamations that never mentioned God. I don't 530 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 7: even know how you do that, but they managed to 531 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 7: do it for four years running. So it's nice to 532 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 7: have a president that knows where our liberty comes from, 533 00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 7: and that's the God of the Bible. 534 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, Gary, it continues this expos of the deep 535 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: state and all of the corruption that's been going on 536 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: for a number of years, for a long time. Gary, 537 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I saw where twenty 538 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: former CIA and FBI insiders basically dropped a bomb confirming 539 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: again that Barack Obama and former CIA director engineered that 540 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: Russian hoax, locked it away in a CIA vault for 541 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: nearly a decade political game. At the end of the day, 542 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, the tables are turning 543 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: and the tide is shifting, truth is becoming exposed, and 544 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, again, it's just it's how in the world 545 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: does the human heart, human condition go to these kind 546 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: of places. How did we get leadership that began to 547 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: just spin us in those kind of dark, evil places. 548 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 7: Gary, It's an amazing thing, and of course I'm with you, 549 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 7: I'm glad to see this coming out, but it's also demoralizing, right. 550 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 7: Our founders knew and a lot of philosophers over the 551 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 7: years understood that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. 552 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 7: And what we did with these agencies like the CIA 553 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 7: and many others was we gave them incredible power to 554 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 7: deal with America's enemies. We gave them the ability to 555 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 7: quite frankly, lie on behalf of the United States, to 556 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 7: spread misinformation around the world that would hurt our enemies 557 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 7: and those that wanted to harm us, in order to 558 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 7: weaken those enemies and keep them under control. And what 559 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 7: we found out sadly and really shockingly as they took 560 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 7: book those power and they turned them on the people 561 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 7: of the United States, on the one half of the 562 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 7: country particularly that supported the concept of make America great again. 563 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 7: So this is an incredible breach of the trust that 564 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 7: we made in these individuals, and tim it is hard 565 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 7: to clean it all up because even now we can't 566 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 7: be sure they're not lying again. There's been a big 567 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 7: controversy this week about whether the investigation of the assassin 568 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 7: that almost killed Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, whether that 569 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 7: investigation was really carried out in a way that we 570 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 7: can trust, or whether it too has somehow been abused, 571 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 7: or that there's a cover up involved. 572 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 6: Gary. 573 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: The Pilgrims when they came across you right as you 574 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: opened up our segment here you're talking about their quest 575 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: for religious liberty, and the God factor becomes really important here, 576 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: and our religious liberties were being taken away from us. 577 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: You look back, it was just a couple of years ago. 578 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: We're in the middle of a throwdown. We're talking about 579 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: locking people up and branding people as domestic terrorists who 580 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: want to believe in God, you know, and see their 581 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: faith God and influence a lot of their decision making 582 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: and how we operate our country and more Gary, all 583 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: that becomes central here. What a way to step back 584 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: and reflect on God. This thanksgiving and his goodness and 585 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: grace even in our country and in our own individual homes. 586 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 7: It's a great summary tim the American experience, the American 587 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 7: the history of the great nation, that none of it's 588 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 7: possible without God. George Washington giving that first inaugural address 589 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 7: in Manhattan, actually because in New York was the capital 590 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 7: at the time, just a few blocks away from where 591 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 7: on nine to eleven, just a few years ago we 592 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 7: were brutally attacked. But in that first inaugural address, he 593 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 7: thanks Providence. He says no nation rises or is allowed 594 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 7: to fall without God allowing one of those two things 595 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,479 Speaker 7: to happen. And he dedicates the nation to the God 596 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 7: of the Bible, and history records that on his own 597 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 7: he added, so help me God to the end of 598 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 7: the oath he took as the first president of the 599 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 7: United States, and you can just go step by step 600 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 7: through our history. Lincoln US deeply steeped in the Bible, 601 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 7: taught to read by reading the Bible. He knew all 602 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 7: of it in a very intimate way. And you can 603 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 7: see the cadence of the Bible and central theories and 604 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 7: ideas about the American Republic that we borrowed from the 605 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 7: Bible or all over his speeches. You can just go 606 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 7: step by step, decade by decade and see God's hand. 607 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 7: And the only way we're going to and the dangerous 608 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 7: waters we're in now, is if we continue on bended 609 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 7: knee to ask for God's blessing. And we can only 610 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 7: ask for that blessing if we deserve it, and the 611 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 7: way to deserve it is to turn back to Him. 612 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving, Gary, to you and Carol and your entire family. 613 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: And it's always great to have you. 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General Page, what I'd like to have 650 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 1: you thank you so much. 651 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 2: For joining me. 652 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 6: Hey, thank you, Doctor Clinton. It's so great to be 653 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 6: here with you, and thank you for what you do 654 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 6: for our country, helping to restore hope and give encouragement. 655 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 2: General. 656 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: It's Thanksgiving week, significance of giving thanks. Even the research 657 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: is showing how important it is. But this is the 658 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: week world we all slow it down. It's an American 659 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: tradition which I find fascinating. You go all the way 660 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: back to the fall of sixteen twenty one, the Pilgrims 661 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: met at Plymouth Colony, Native Americans coming together celebrating God's 662 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: goodness and grace in general. As we think about our 663 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: current our country right now, I know that, Hey, we've 664 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 1: been through some challenging times lately, still some division or unrest. 665 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: But God's been so good to the United States of America. 666 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 6: Oh, that is so true. And one of the great 667 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 6: privileges of my life was to serve God and country 668 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 6: as a chaplain. Served in the United States Air Force 669 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 6: for thirty three years, and that in no way qualifies 670 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 6: me to be called a hero. But I did get 671 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 6: to serve heroes as their chaplain and walk with them 672 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 6: through some really hard times and point them to the 673 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 6: hope that we have in Jesus. 674 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: I know, one of my favorite commercials growing up as 675 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: a kid was a soldier getting on a plane and 676 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: heading home. Home is our most favorite destination. I saw 677 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: where eighty two million Americans. By the way, I don't 678 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: know if you know this, are going to travels or 679 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: more this Thanksgiving holiday. Triple A says it's the busiest 680 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: travel holiday of the year. There's something about home general 681 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: that just kind of warms our hosts. What is it 682 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: and just your reflections on serving those who, yeah, who've 683 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: served our country and the connection with home and the 684 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: grint and the significance of being anchored. 685 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, so good. What a great question, you know, deploying 686 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 6: with the airmen, the soldiers going with them, and you 687 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 6: know they're missing the holidays. You know they're missing the birthdays, 688 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 6: the special events. So bringing to them, going with them 689 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 6: and bringing to them a sense of purpose and calling. 690 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 6: And we're doing this for our families so that everyone 691 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 6: can live safe and free and enjoy this good life 692 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 6: that God has given us. We have so many reasons 693 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 6: to give thanks this Thanksgiving general. 694 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: We also know that while the holidays can bring a 695 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: lot of joy, it can bring a lot of pain. 696 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: And maybe it's memories or you're going into the holidays 697 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: and they're going to be different this year. You've come 698 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: up with a new book. God is still for you. 699 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: It's that piece that even in the midst of and 700 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: we all know this, we're only a phone call away 701 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: from a disaster probably or a life change, but general, 702 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: you've spent your life doing that kind of ministry with 703 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: our heroes and more. Take us down the road on 704 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: how this book came about and what the heart of 705 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: it is anchored in. 706 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 6: So this book has been taking shape in my heart 707 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,959 Speaker 6: over the decades of coming alongside people going through their 708 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 6: hard times. But it was always just an idea in 709 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 6: my head him until one day as a pastor after 710 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 6: I had retired from the Air Force, and I was 711 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 6: serving as a pastor as at a church here in 712 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 6: the Houston area, and I was sitting with a family 713 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:20,919 Speaker 6: that was devastated. We were planning the funeral of their 714 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 6: nineteen year old son who had taken his life. He 715 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 6: had a dream, he had his life home papped out 716 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 6: as only a nineteen year old could do. He had 717 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 6: life figured out, and then nothing worked out the way 718 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 6: that he thought it was supposed to. He wanted to 719 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 6: be a marine, and so when he got out of 720 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 6: high school, he went to the recruiter, he went through 721 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 6: his medical and exams, and he found out that he 722 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 6: had a medical issue that disqualified him. And it was 723 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 6: devastating to him, and so he tried to plan b 724 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 6: and that didn't work in his sweetheart broke up with him, 725 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 6: and it was just all more than he could bear, 726 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 6: and he took his life. And that day, sitting with 727 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 6: his mother in her agony, just agonizing, and his dad, 728 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 6: who was hurting so much, I knew then I had 729 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 6: to write. I had to get this book that even 730 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 6: when life is confusing or bruising, you can know that 731 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 6: God is for you, and He will work together with 732 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,839 Speaker 6: you through your greatest pain, through your darkest night, through 733 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 6: your biggest disappointment, to bring hope and purpose out of that. 734 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 6: And so I started to write. I decided I would 735 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 6: test the water with a chapter and excuse me. That 736 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 6: same week I was scheduled to preach at a chapel 737 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 6: service at the prison not far from my house. And 738 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 6: so that Sunday afternoon, there must have been about one 739 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 6: hundred and twenty or so men in the room, and 740 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 6: I was preaching to them out of the overflow of 741 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 6: writing that chapter, and so I was using the scripture 742 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 6: and a story from that chapter, and just they responded 743 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 6: so wonderfully as every preacher would hope a congregation would respond. 744 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 6: And after the message, there was a group of them 745 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 6: that lined up to speak to me and ask for 746 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 6: prayer and or the prayer for someone they loved. And 747 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 6: there was a fellow dressed in as all prison guard 748 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 6: who was standing at the very end of the line, 749 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 6: and he waited patiently, so patiently, to get to the 750 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 6: front of the line. And when he got there, he 751 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 6: took my hand and he looked me in the eye 752 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 6: and he said he said, Chaplain, I just wanted to 753 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 6: tell you you ought to write a book, and you 754 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 6: ought to put that story in it. Tim, I heard 755 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 6: from God that day in a most unlikely place, from 756 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 6: a most unlikely person, and so I started to pour 757 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 6: out this book with all my heart to come alongside 758 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 6: young men with a dream that's been derailed, or someone 759 00:44:54,719 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 6: going through trauma, someone who's experienced a great disappointment or 760 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 6: pain in life, to come alongside them with the voice 761 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 6: of a chaplain, to know that God is for them. 762 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 6: And there are solid reasons we can know that's true. 763 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 6: And isn't hope built on truth? Yea, not on our 764 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 6: changing circumstances, but on the solid rock of God's unchanging character, 765 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 6: and so we could put our hope in. 766 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: In general, you say there are ten reasons, can you 767 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: give us one or two, just real quickly, right at 768 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: the tip of your tongue. 769 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 6: I would love to do that. Of course. The ultimate, 770 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 6: the ultimate way that we know that God is for 771 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 6: us is that he sent his son so that we 772 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 6: could be forgiven and the slate wipe clean, and so 773 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 6: we could live free from the fear of death. Even 774 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,879 Speaker 6: death doesn't have the last word. There is hope even 775 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 6: in facing death, because Jesus said this, whoever believes in 776 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 6: Me will live even though they die. And so there 777 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 6: is a whole chapter. It weaves together biblical truth and 778 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 6: the story of a real life couple facing a devastating 779 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 6: diagnosis of pancreatic cancer and how the Lord gave them 780 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 6: hope even in that very difficult circumstance. 781 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: General, I want to say this, I believe you. I 782 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 1: believe God's given you a word. It's in your heart 783 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: and it comes through this camera. I can tell you 784 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: that General, if people want to learn more about you, 785 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: maybe how they could get a copy of your new book, 786 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 1: God Is Still for You. Where can they go? 787 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 6: They can go to Bob Page author dot com, bobpageauthor 788 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 6: dot com and Tim. There they will find a free 789 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 6: sample chapter they can read that. They can learn more 790 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 6: about my story and learn more about this book and 791 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 6: how it came to be. 792 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: General Page, I want to say thank you for your 793 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: service and happy thanksgiving to you. 794 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 2: We will have you back. Thank you for joining me. 795 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 6: Thank you, sir, I would love to be back. God 796 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 6: bless you. 797 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: Hey and closing, what are you thankful for? I know 798 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: some of you are thinking asking how do you give 799 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: thanks when the wheels are coming off and life's not 800 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to be. 801 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,240 Speaker 2: Help you'll do this this week. 802 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: Make a list of five things, take the time they quote, 803 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: pause and thank God for them every day. Watch how 804 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: it begins to transform change your thanksgiving. Remember these verses 805 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: Psalm one hundred, verse four. Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, 806 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,439 Speaker 1: and his courts with praise, and give thanks to him. 807 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: Bless his name, Psalm one oh seven, verses twenty one 808 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: and twenty two. Give thanks to the Lord for his 809 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: loving kindness, Offer sacrifices of thanksgiving. Tell of his works 810 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: with joyful singing. Remember during your festivities this week to 811 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 1: make a new and special effort to bring alive the 812 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: thanks and thanksgiving, and go easy on the turkey and dressing. 813 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: Doctor Jim Clinton is always thanks for watching. See you 814 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: next week right here on Sunday, The Road Forward, Hey 815 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,839 Speaker 1: by God,