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Speaker 3: as they make their return from Las Vegas too. All Right,
Speaker 3: it's time to talk about Mike Zimmer. Of course, it's
Speaker 3: official now he is your defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: In Dallas.
Speaker 3: There was always the dan Quinn guys, right, there was
Speaker 3: always those guys that you look at that are the long, lanky, athletics,
Speaker 3: speedy defensive players.
Speaker 2: Does Mike Zimmer have a type of guy? Brian?
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think what you're gonna now going to realize
Speaker 4: with Mike is he's going to ask you for some
Speaker 4: press corners. He's going to ask you for some guys
Speaker 4: that have those sweet feet that we like to talk about,
Speaker 4: the ability to jam, to turn, to run, to carry.
Speaker 4: Those are all things that we're gonna have to look about.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to talk about those ones and those
Speaker 4: three techniques inside. He's always had a good combination of
Speaker 4: those guys. He's played with some small linebackers in his day.
Speaker 4: He's played with some long linebackers in his day. He
Speaker 4: likes the safety that's going to play with some range.
Speaker 4: It's going to play with his eyes. You know, a
Speaker 4: guy like a Harrison Smith who he had at Notre Dame.
Speaker 4: You know that type of a player, a physical player.
Speaker 4: Darren Woodson goes all the way back to the Super
Speaker 4: Bowl days. But yeah, he has a certain kind of player.
Speaker 4: And talking to Zim, there's a couple of things that
Speaker 4: he's that he's going to look at coming in. He's
Speaker 4: he's he's going to take a look at the staff.
Speaker 4: He's got to meet with this staff that's still currently
Speaker 4: here and kind of figure out because the QUI U
Speaker 4: and I asked, is okay, are you're going to bring
Speaker 4: a couple of guys in. You know there's some guys
Speaker 4: that have left that and goes, well, I just got
Speaker 4: to meet with the guys that are currently here and
Speaker 4: kind of figure that out. Now, remember Sharif Floyd played
Speaker 4: for him in Minnesota, so you know, hopefully Sharif will
Speaker 4: get that opportunity. But Mike is really excited about being here.
Speaker 4: I'm happy for him, but he is going to want
Speaker 4: players that are smart, tough and get after the ball
Speaker 4: and are dependable. And that's that's something that he's always
Speaker 4: hung his hat on. And those are the types of
Speaker 4: defensive players. You know. If you're seeing a guy on tape,
Speaker 4: we're all evaluating here, and this guy looks like, okay,
Speaker 4: football intelligence, Oh wow, look at this guy get off blocks.
Speaker 4: Oh look at this guy close. Oh look at this
Speaker 4: guy tackle. That's a Mike Zimmer type player. I'm sure
Speaker 4: there's a lot of coaches out there, but Mike specifically
Speaker 4: likes those guys that have the football intelligence but also
Speaker 4: on the outside can play a little press coverage to
Speaker 4: and run with those receivers.
Speaker 6: When you talk about discipline, you talk about physicality. I
Speaker 6: think that's two things that any fan would love to
Speaker 6: have on this defense going forward.
Speaker 4: So absolute right.
Speaker 6: I think it's interesting with how he attacks the draft process.
Speaker 6: And I mentioned this on Talking Cowboys, but somebody had
Speaker 6: asked me yesterday if with Mike Zimmer now in the building,
Speaker 6: does a guy like Tovandre Sweat become more of a
Speaker 6: big time target, like a big, physical defensive tackle who's wide.
Speaker 6: It's like, it doesn't matter if it's Mike Zimmer Hans Zimmer.
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter. Defensive coordinator could be any of us
Speaker 6: at this table. You have to be able to solidify
Speaker 6: the middle of the spine of that defense. You got
Speaker 6: to get defensive tackle help, you got to get linebacker help.
Speaker 6: I'd be okay with a big safety as well. So
Speaker 6: being able to bring that physicality along with with Mike Zimmer,
Speaker 6: I think that's going to be the biggest thing in
Speaker 6: what we look forward to as the draft process goes.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Brian mentioned the IQ players and things like that.
Speaker 7: When you look at Zimmer systems, you know, adaptability is
Speaker 7: one of the best things you could put on your resume.
Speaker 7: Correct And one thing I noticed about him is that, uh,
Speaker 7: he plays the matchup game really well. But with the adaptability,
Speaker 7: he's not asking guys to do totally different things. You
Speaker 7: have to be to do multiple things within your position
Speaker 7: and do them well and stick to them and do
Speaker 7: them well. So I think that's the most exciting thing
Speaker 7: about the hire to me is my basket worker still
Speaker 7: did a great breakdown on just how much he is
Speaker 7: willing to say Okay, we saw it the other days
Speaker 7: like spacers like Okay, y'all gonna keep pressing his line well,
Speaker 7: the adaptability to be an end game and to also
Speaker 7: play the matchup game. It's something that I'm really hoping
Speaker 7: for with the next with the next coordinator, because I
Speaker 7: just I never understood how it works for coordinators that say, Okay,
Speaker 7: well this is what we are, this is what we're
Speaker 7: gonna do. I mean, isn't it natural to want someone
Speaker 7: that can, you know, roll with the punches and make
Speaker 7: changes on the fly. And so I'm looking That's what
Speaker 7: I'm looking at with him coming in.
Speaker 3: And dan Quinn had an element of that to him
Speaker 3: as well, which is what made him a successful defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: But there's nothing that Mike Zimmer has not seen in
Speaker 3: the NFL at this point. I mean he's seen a
Speaker 3: little bit of everything, and there's there's an element to
Speaker 3: that when it comes to Zimmer and the fit that
Speaker 3: he has here, is there something that he's going to
Speaker 3: immediately say this is the top priority for this defense.
Speaker 3: Because the first year for dan Quinn back in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one, he came in and said, we.
Speaker 2: Need edge rushers, we need linebacker.
Speaker 3: We went and got Michael Parsons at that twelve spot
Speaker 3: and they gave him that first round pick.
Speaker 2: Do you think there's something similar that could happen with
Speaker 2: Zimmer coming in here?
Speaker 6: Again, I don't think it's a Mike Zimmer specific questions,
Speaker 6: just whatever they got in the middle of that defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be able to address.
Speaker 7: Agree right right, But I do I will say, like
Speaker 7: when we talk about it is going to be interesting
Speaker 7: to see how he handles it because you know, with
Speaker 7: the Cowboys this past year, Yeah, you could run up
Speaker 7: the middle, but the coverage in the middle of.
Speaker 5: The field was a huge problem.
Speaker 7: So even when you're addressing things like linebacker, are you
Speaker 7: looking for linebackers that are able to drop in coverage
Speaker 7: and do more or are you looking for I'm coming
Speaker 7: down stopping to run consistently, Like there has to be
Speaker 7: a balance. So I do think it's going to play
Speaker 7: into some of his decision making as well.
Speaker 5: With the linebacker specifically.
Speaker 4: I think if Mike Zimmer and I haven't asked in this,
Speaker 4: but I guarantee in the time that he's been waiting
Speaker 4: for this job to materialize, that he sat down and
Speaker 4: watched your tape and he has an idea of he
Speaker 4: has an idea of you know, coming in here and saying, Okay,
Speaker 4: when he meets with Will about the personnel, the first
Speaker 4: question he's probably going to ask is, what was your
Speaker 4: plan with Mazzi Smith? You know, what was what was
Speaker 4: your plan with that? Where? Why was it a three
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty nine pound one technique now a three
Speaker 4: hundred are excuse me, a two hundred ninety three pound three?
Speaker 4: You know, what's your plan there? What was what was
Speaker 4: the thinking? And to your point, Nick, he's going to
Speaker 4: look at those linebackers too. He's going to realize though,
Speaker 4: and Will's going to probably trying to explain to him
Speaker 4: and like, listen, we took a gamble. We placed so
Speaker 4: much nickel and dime and we you know, we gambled
Speaker 4: on going a little bit light at linebacker. We had
Speaker 4: injuries there that killed us. Dan had to play around
Speaker 4: it with you know, with Bell and others. But Mike's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we're going to get linebackers here, right, and well it's
Speaker 4: going to go, yeah, we're going to get linebackers here.
Speaker 4: So you know, when you start to talk about Jerry
Speaker 4: Jones and all in pushing chips in, I think free
Speaker 4: agency and that's for a whole nother show. But uh,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if the Cowboys look at free
Speaker 4: agent linebackers, you know, and look at there, Yeah, and
Speaker 4: there are. And that's the thing about it is that
Speaker 4: you if you get a free agent linebacker, one that
Speaker 4: could help you, like what you're talking about, I is
Speaker 4: sure that's got adaptability, flexibility, you know, run past kind
Speaker 4: of a guy, then maybe you could go ahead and
Speaker 4: use the draft, which falls right into our neck of
Speaker 4: the woods here too. The linebackers that we all like,
Speaker 4: you know, maybe okay, free agency they get a guy, now,
Speaker 4: we could take our draft show and say, okay, they're
Speaker 4: probably not going to address this early, but here here's
Speaker 4: some guys that we might see in that third, fourth
Speaker 4: round that we could go after. So there's a there's
Speaker 4: a lot of of there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 4: things that Mike is going to come in and say
Speaker 4: he's going to want to do, and it's up to
Speaker 4: Will to kind of figure out the direction that they,
Speaker 4: you know, with the finances they have, but also the
Speaker 4: draft capital they have as well.
Speaker 7: Can I ask question, Okay, I don't know who's going
Speaker 7: to break, which room do you think benefits the most
Speaker 7: from his edition?
Speaker 6: I would say the corners, just because you look at
Speaker 6: two all pros or three if you want to throw
Speaker 6: in Staman Gilmore if he's able to come back, and
Speaker 6: the ability for Trayvon Diggs and to Ron Bland to
Speaker 6: still elevate and get better. We haven't seen the peak
Speaker 6: from either of those two guys, I don't believe. So
Speaker 6: I would say that off off rip as far as
Speaker 6: the front seven, you would have to come back to
Speaker 6: me here in about two three months.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 4: I think I think it's I think it's the secondary
Speaker 4: that's Mike's area of expertise he's going to I think
Speaker 4: the cop out answer is that the whole defense is
Speaker 4: going to benefit because Mike is a get in your
Speaker 4: face type of coach and it's going to be interesting
Speaker 4: to see because it's a different way of coaching than
Speaker 4: what these players have been receiving here the last three
Speaker 4: years under Dan Quinn. And that's something to me that
Speaker 4: I'm looking to see how that's going to affect some guys.
Speaker 4: I know interviewing Gilmour at the Super Bowl, you know,
Speaker 4: and he's hopeful about coming back, and you talk to
Speaker 4: people in the organization. We talk to people all the
Speaker 4: time in this place, they'd like to have him back.
Speaker 4: It's you know, you can't lowball the guy, and you
Speaker 4: know they know that. But he's the type of guy
Speaker 4: that you know, when you really sit down and visit
Speaker 4: with him, I'm like, damn, this is a sharp guy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, and he cares. I mean you could see
Speaker 4: that he really bothered him, you know. But he's played
Speaker 4: on championship teams before. He knows how to do it.
Speaker 4: So my overriding thing, I think the defense is a
Speaker 4: whole bit. If it's but one specific position, I think
Speaker 4: it's the secondary.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean for me, I think it's just gonna
Speaker 7: be the safety room overall.
Speaker 5: With the idea that I mean we had.
Speaker 7: We interviewed one Ye Thomas on Girls Talk Boys Talking.
Speaker 7: He said like I want to be coached hard, like
Speaker 7: I'm ready, and he was excited about that.
Speaker 4: He was about to get coached.
Speaker 5: But when you look at.
Speaker 7: We've talked about the Cowboys scheming, just some of the
Speaker 7: things they do, you know, Zim he likes to run
Speaker 7: some cover too and do some things like that. He
Speaker 7: also too likes to use a robber sometimes. So I'm
Speaker 7: excited to see Donovan Wilson do some more things closer
Speaker 7: to the line of scrimmage. Again, maybe Marquise Bell do
Speaker 7: some things closer to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5: I do think it's gonna give.
Speaker 7: Guys like Malie Cooker the opportunity to continue to show
Speaker 7: off that sideline to signline, but maybe give one Ya
Speaker 7: Thomas some opportunities to get back there and show off
Speaker 7: what he can do in coverage as well. Side by
Speaker 7: side with Mallie Cooker.
Speaker 6: I'll say this, if if the Cowboys decide that there's
Speaker 6: a little bit of flexibility that they feel like they
Speaker 6: have in the first round and they want to eventually
Speaker 6: get a defensive guy, Tyler Newman would be very fun and.
Speaker 4: In Minnesota it's a good player.
Speaker 3: So along those same lines, let's talk about press corners.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about guys that fit that mold on the outside.
Speaker 3: Because Brian said it a moment ago. When it comes
Speaker 3: to free agency, Dallas likes to fill some spots and
Speaker 3: then allow themselves BPA possibilities to a certain extent in
Speaker 3: the NFL draft, So if they go out and let's
Speaker 3: say they fill out linebacker, they fill out defensive tackle,
Speaker 3: are there any names either late first round or mid
Speaker 3: round picks. In terms of these press corners that you've
Speaker 3: watched so far that impress you.
Speaker 6: We could start, we could start up top Coolid mcentstree
Speaker 6: is an interesting one out of Alabama, A corner corner talent.
Speaker 6: He's been there three years. He's coming out as a junior.
Speaker 6: I think when you look at Koloid mcentstry and what
Speaker 6: he still has, he's still very raw. He's got that
Speaker 6: press man ability. He's gonna jam you have the line,
Speaker 6: he's going to give you that physicality.
Speaker 2: It's the best name in the draft.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he definitely does really violent hands. I think with
Speaker 6: what what you're looking for from a Mike Zimmer time
Speaker 6: defensive back, this would be one. I've seen him in
Speaker 6: mock drafts go anywhere from eight to thirty one, So
Speaker 6: I mean he's got a long range of where he
Speaker 6: could potentially go. If you're looking at twenty four and
Speaker 6: you really like what Cooley mckinsry brings to the table,
Speaker 6: that's certainly one you could look at. If you're looking second,
Speaker 6: third round. This is the guy I've talked about a
Speaker 6: little bit. TJ. Tampa out of Iowa State. In my opinion,
Speaker 6: in my opinion, one of the he was the best defender,
Speaker 6: a best secondary defender in the Big twelve this past season.
Speaker 6: He's got that press man ability, but he's also got
Speaker 6: some zone knacks as well. You look at his ball
Speaker 6: hawking ability, his ball tracking ability as a defensive back
Speaker 6: being able to do that, had a lot of interceptions
Speaker 6: this past season. Really liked what he put together at
Speaker 6: Iowa State. I was state. They're actually really impressing me
Speaker 6: with their defensive back development over the course of the
Speaker 6: last couple of years. TJ. Tampa, I think is going
Speaker 6: to be a really good example of that. But I
Speaker 6: think he sneaks into the top fifty at some point.
Speaker 6: That's a guy that I really like out of Iowas.
Speaker 4: I should tagg him tag who Tampa?
Speaker 2: TJ Tampa, Oh talk about him?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: I was like, what is tagging?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 7: I've noticed that the change of direction and his ability
Speaker 7: to recover it is just it stands out immediately. He
Speaker 7: has a lot of calmness to his play, and that's
Speaker 7: what you're looking for for a corner also too, you're
Speaker 7: not looking for a guy that panics when the balls
Speaker 7: in the air. He's able to Like you mentioned, just
Speaker 7: the tracking ability to locate it in the air and
Speaker 7: go for it, and the speed and size combo make
Speaker 7: it difficult for receivers to get separation on him. I
Speaker 7: was I liked his burst as well, and the way
Speaker 7: he drives to the ball. He played wide receiver in
Speaker 7: high school, and you can see some of that in
Speaker 7: his play.
Speaker 5: We're starting to see that a lot.
Speaker 7: I mean, I know that guys kind of go back
Speaker 7: and forth in high school, but I do think it's
Speaker 7: hard not to notice that a lot of these gentlemen
Speaker 7: that played wide receiver relating to high school, some of
Speaker 7: them in college have those ball skills that stand out
Speaker 7: as well. No, he's a player, and to your point,
Speaker 7: Iowa State is starting to come on with it because
Speaker 7: they have to. They look across the pond, and you know,
Speaker 7: Iowa got yeah, across the corn.
Speaker 5: I know they do have them, and they froze right now.
Speaker 5: So go ahead.
Speaker 4: Let's tell you what you both You both got the
Speaker 4: player wired. You really really do this guy you talk
Speaker 4: about it. There's natural movement and balance to this guy's game.
Speaker 4: I mean, he does a really nice job of reading
Speaker 4: the quarterback and then playing the route, and he gets
Speaker 4: his hands on a lot of passes, the tracking of
Speaker 4: the ball. The size gives him an advantage here when
Speaker 4: he comes to carrying routes. The foot speed, the link
Speaker 4: to stay connected the receiver, the fluid change of direction.
Speaker 4: He loves the challenge you can tell of defending routes,
Speaker 4: he really really does. And the tackling part. He's got
Speaker 4: some wrap up to him, but he's also got some
Speaker 4: of that blockdown where he throws his body at the
Speaker 4: ball career and kind of tries to chop him down.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Maybe he needs to
Speaker 4: wrap up a little bit. But his length makes him
Speaker 4: an ideal corner in this league. I'm glad you guys
Speaker 4: brought his name up.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, speaking of length, If you're looking for later round
Speaker 6: to press corners that you think could work on this team,
Speaker 6: look at Road Torrents out of Arizona State. He was
Speaker 6: a Shrine Bowl guy, six foot three, two hundred pounds,
Speaker 6: so he's a big dude. But he was playing boundary
Speaker 6: corner for Arizona State. He jams him off the line,
Speaker 6: that's physical.
Speaker 3: In these practices he was at one on ones. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was absolutely beating people at the line. Physical guy.
Speaker 6: The only downside is that's probably all you have with
Speaker 6: Roe Torrns as of now, still really raw and really
Speaker 6: physical and just throwing his weight around in different directions.
Speaker 6: He's technical with his weight, but it's there's a lot
Speaker 6: of corner work that you would need to do with him.
Speaker 3: There's a similar probably a higher level prospect, but the
Speaker 3: similar scouting report. Raw athleticism, physicality, played a lot of
Speaker 3: zone in college, but he could make maybe make the
Speaker 3: switch and be a good press man corner. What do
Speaker 3: you think about Quinnon Mitchell corner from Toledo? Do you
Speaker 3: think he can maybe fit that mold a little bit too?
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm okay with Quinnon Mitchell being asked to do anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Sure, I'm at a senior bowl. I'm okay with him
Speaker 6: being the first corner off the board. Would be shocked
Speaker 6: if he's further than the third corner off the board.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 6: I love what Quaneon Mitchell brings to the table. He's
Speaker 6: not this like overwhelming guy that you look at with size.
Speaker 3: It's like, gosh, he's a It's more tenacity than it
Speaker 3: is physicality.
Speaker 6: It's more technician. He is a technician. I had a
Speaker 6: dB trainer who's training some guys here in Frisco. Ask
Speaker 6: me what was so good about Quaneon Mitchell and Mobile?
Speaker 6: Why is he catching the attention of all these scouts?
Speaker 6: Why was that so big for him? I was like,
Speaker 6: there's no one technique thing that he does where you're like,
Speaker 6: I wish you would do that a little bit different.
Speaker 6: He is a technician, yeah, pure book. I is a
Speaker 6: textbook type type guy. And when you see what he's
Speaker 6: done at Toledo, how he's been able to stack really
Speaker 6: good performances as well being able to go up against
Speaker 6: really good talent. They play good talent up there in
Speaker 6: the MAC. I love Quanion Mitchell. I'd be okay with
Speaker 6: him being asked to do anything.
Speaker 4: How do you think he runs nick?
Speaker 6: That's I probably.
Speaker 4: I know that's a tough question because hopefully he'll train
Speaker 4: be four or five. Yeah, when you watch the tape,
Speaker 4: it does look like a guy. I mean, he's he's
Speaker 4: he's the measurements I'm working off is six foot one
Speaker 4: ninety six I think is right whereabout he's as a player.
Speaker 4: That was the biggest question I had about him. You
Speaker 4: could watch the Northern Illinois game and he gets four
Speaker 4: interceptions in the game. I mean a couple of picks,
Speaker 4: sixes and stuff like that. He looks taller on tape
Speaker 4: to me than the six foot He's got some long
Speaker 4: features to his body. I love the way he tacks
Speaker 4: the ball. I love the reaction skills. I just one
Speaker 4: note I put on my I said, we'll be interested
Speaker 4: to see what his forty yard dash time will be.
Speaker 3: I've got a note on that real quick. Bruce Feldman
Speaker 3: from the Freaks List. He puts out his Freaks List.
Speaker 3: Den Brulers mentioned it a couple.
Speaker 2: Times throughout the Beast.
Speaker 3: He was a part of it, and he said he
Speaker 3: benched two hundred and twenty five pounds twenty one times right.
Speaker 3: He said, he squatted forty four times right, and he
Speaker 3: hit a top speed of twenty three point five miles
Speaker 3: an hour. He said, it's forty times. He ran in
Speaker 3: the four threes twice for NFL scouts.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, if that's the case, then you know that
Speaker 4: would be great.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's and of course this is surprising,
Speaker 3: just a report. We haven't seen Combine numbers or anything yet.
Speaker 3: That's the official, but just based off of Bruce Feldman,
Speaker 3: which is a trusted source.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he he's got he's got some mirror mirroring skills,
Speaker 4: and I I thought he was a little bit more
Speaker 4: straight lined in the way he played. You know, I
Speaker 4: bet the tight coverage is there, the sticky coverage is
Speaker 4: there for the player. Uh. Yeah, he's a guy that
Speaker 4: that that senior bulk clearly helped him get get on
Speaker 4: the radar even further than what he was at Toledo.
Speaker 6: Talking about being inside of a hip pocket. He does.
Speaker 6: And he's then he's got the ball tracking seals in
Speaker 6: the back end for deep browns.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The Cowboys love their their Toledo defensive backs they had,
Speaker 3: but we got one in the building here, Tod Barry
Speaker 3: Church that does a great job.
Speaker 7: I have.
Speaker 5: I think this gentleman completed a nickel. Yeah, Jerry and
Speaker 5: Jones f s.
Speaker 2: U Jerry Jones, Jerry and Jerry and.
Speaker 7: Jones Jerry And I think that's how you pronounce his name.
Speaker 7: I want to get it right. I was you're talking
Speaker 7: about jamming at the line like he jams went intent. Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's not just for decoration. He's trying to redirect a receiver.
Speaker 7: He has a lot of flexibility in his lower half
Speaker 7: that allows him to stop and change direction quickly and
Speaker 7: stay in front of and stay in front of receivers.
Speaker 7: He plays with a lot of discipline and poise, y'all.
Speaker 7: And also to the zone awareness is there we talk
Speaker 7: about the track and ability, he has that as well.
Speaker 7: I think he plays that line very well of being
Speaker 7: aggressive but also being disciplined, and that's something that you
Speaker 7: look for in players because when you look at him,
Speaker 7: see how much he's Jimmy, You see how much he
Speaker 7: likes to be involved in man, you sometimes wonder, Okay,
Speaker 7: is this guy going to get penalized in the future
Speaker 7: and things like that. Now you can see a whole
Speaker 7: bunch of that from his game. He's physical, He's very active.
Speaker 7: He's not afraid to tackle and run support, which is
Speaker 7: something that I think Zim.
Speaker 4: Will look for as Wellely.
Speaker 7: And he's also been very durable and again important as well.
Speaker 7: He hasn't played less than eight games his whole college career,
Speaker 7: so he's played most of all his games, even his
Speaker 7: I think it was his freshman year played eight games
Speaker 7: to start. So I'm looking at the player. I like
Speaker 7: what he's able to do. And so when you look
Speaker 7: at it, when you look at Okay, what is Zimmer
Speaker 7: Zim maybe looking for. This is a guy that can't
Speaker 7: play on the outside, but I do think he can
Speaker 7: do some nickel things and we know how important that
Speaker 7: is in this league now.
Speaker 6: So you talked about getting a corner that Zimmer could
Speaker 6: improve with run support. You look at Treyvon Dicks and
Speaker 6: what he's so I think one of the bigger negatives
Speaker 6: you could take from his first couple of years in
Speaker 6: the league or first few years in the league is
Speaker 6: how he's able to defend the run and being physical
Speaker 6: in that sense, I think there's an opportunity for Mike
Speaker 6: Zimmer to come in and be able to develop that.
Speaker 6: We're talking about how he can develop certain areas. I
Speaker 6: think that's certainly one. When you look at the corner
Speaker 6: room as well, and you had mentioned that I wanted
Speaker 6: to throw.
Speaker 2: That, Brian.
Speaker 3: You were talking about instincts too, and he seemingly has
Speaker 3: those instincts that you can bring to the NFL level
Speaker 3: and say I trust you early, which is what Zimmer
Speaker 3: wants to do.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Did anybody look, you know to my Florida state,
Speaker 4: do youboy look at the other corner? Ronardo Green?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, he was also a trim both both of
Speaker 6: those guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I heard that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, did we talk about him before?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. If you want to bring him up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the thing about him is with me, to this guy,
Speaker 4: I was like, I saw a very physical, competitive, aggressive player,
Speaker 4: and I didn't think he was the type of player
Speaker 4: that was afraid to play you tight. He's going to
Speaker 4: compete for every ball that comes his direction. He could
Speaker 4: be a little grabby at times and drape his arm
Speaker 4: across the back of the receiver, you know when they
Speaker 4: run those insider outs. I would not say he's the
Speaker 4: most fluid moving player when it comes to the movement,
Speaker 4: but he when he gets his hands on his receiver,
Speaker 4: it's really hard for them to get away from him
Speaker 4: because he's got the ability to mirror when it's called
Speaker 4: for the recovery and his footwork. I feel he's a
Speaker 4: better man player than Zone. So I kind of brought
Speaker 4: him back in my mind because of thinking of guy's
Speaker 4: six foot one hundred and eighty six pounds. You know,
Speaker 4: he's going to be one of those guys that has
Speaker 4: a feel for how to play, how to use the
Speaker 4: sideline to push this guy out when you know, in
Speaker 4: the air, so smart, competitive, complete and assignments. You know,
Speaker 4: when I started thinking again, zim type of guy. Maybe
Speaker 4: that Ronaldo Green Florida State might be a guy that
Speaker 4: will catch their attention.
Speaker 7: Kim Hart, cornerback Notre Dame, had a good had a
Speaker 7: good Senior Bowl showing man. Listen, if you got a
Speaker 7: lot of waste of movement in your game as a receiver,
Speaker 7: he's gonna make you pay. Yeah, because you're just doing
Speaker 7: stuff for decoration with him. Because he's crazy, technically sound
Speaker 7: to be as young as he is, he's hard to fool.
Speaker 7: He mirrors well like we talked about, he's physical, impressed,
Speaker 7: and at the top of the route. So he is
Speaker 7: able to drive guys out to the outside. Now I
Speaker 7: will say that he comes up in tackles. I think
Speaker 7: I do prefer him on the outside though, as opposed
Speaker 7: to you know, working in it, because he understands how
Speaker 7: to use the boundary to his benefit and kind of
Speaker 7: work guys over to the side. So he stood out
Speaker 7: to me during the Senior Bowl. Nick, were you able
Speaker 7: to see him and see some of the things he
Speaker 7: was able to do.
Speaker 6: Former receiver as well? Yeah, So yeah, there's there's definitely
Speaker 6: those abilities. I like his press man ability with talking
Speaker 6: about it here, but yeah, at Senior Bowl he backed
Speaker 6: all that up for sure.
Speaker 3: Where would you put him? Is he like an early
Speaker 3: day three, late day two kind of guy?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think firmly day two I think yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: Especially when he did the Senior Bowl because he was
Speaker 7: I mean, he went up against some of these dogs
Speaker 7: out there and they weren't able to get separation from him.
Speaker 5: I thought he was impressive. I'm look, I'm jealous. You
Speaker 5: got to see him? How close.
Speaker 4: You speaking of Iowa, where does this Cooper de Jene?
Speaker 4: Where does he fall in?
Speaker 5: Lord have Mercy?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a fascinating one.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 6: We talked about him a little bit last week as
Speaker 6: far as Okay, yeah, his secondary versatility, I think yeah.
Speaker 6: I think he's going to be an interesting one overall
Speaker 6: in this process because you see him go as high again,
Speaker 6: it's kind of a kool aid. Yeah, that's where That's
Speaker 6: what I'm saying teen. Yeah, and then you can see
Speaker 6: him late second round. Yeah, Combine is gonna be huge
Speaker 6: for him.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was kind of like, I kind of feel
Speaker 4: like he's a right place at the right time prospect,
Speaker 4: you know, where like it's like he seems to be
Speaker 4: the ball kind of gets knocked in the air and
Speaker 4: he's standing there or you know, And I just think
Speaker 4: he's got good instincts. I think he's got the awareness
Speaker 4: to make it plays. I think he does a good
Speaker 4: job as a tackler too. You know, here's where you
Speaker 4: always kind of feel like that maybe he could play
Speaker 4: another position or two. And you know, but I mean
Speaker 4: the scheme kind of requires him to play sideways. You know,
Speaker 4: you really don't get a feel for how he really pedals,
Speaker 4: and you know, because they're funneling everything into the middle
Speaker 4: of the field. And but man, he's he's a pretty
Speaker 4: impressive play Guy's a really good punt returner too, is
Speaker 4: one of the better ones I've seen. So, man, I
Speaker 4: was just curious to where you guys had him. But
Speaker 4: you're right, because the mock some of the mocks have
Speaker 4: him like super high, and then others have him like,
Speaker 4: you know, like you said in the second round, I.
Speaker 2: Think I think he's a top twenty player.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 3: I when I look at him, I look of I
Speaker 3: look at a lesser polished Christian Gonzales from Oregon last year,
Speaker 3: very similar skill set in the way that they've got
Speaker 3: Lean they've got I really like Gonzalez was a better player.
Speaker 3: I would have Gonzalez as a top ten prospect, but
Speaker 3: I don't think Degene is that far off.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's that far off as a player.
Speaker 3: So if you're looking at a corner, like you said,
Speaker 3: a lot of it is is is subjective. It is
Speaker 3: what you like as a defense, it's what you like
Speaker 3: as a scheme. He's going to fit a lot of
Speaker 3: those areas. So I think he's going to go top twenty,
Speaker 3: top twenty five, something like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and then the Iowa pedigree. It matters
Speaker 5: at this point. It just does, you know, because you
Speaker 5: guys come in.
Speaker 7: You're like, Oh, he's going to be fundamentally sound, He's
Speaker 7: going to have his things together. But I do think
Speaker 7: he's a good representation of the position and how he
Speaker 7: plays it.
Speaker 3: There's some press corners for you, though. If you're looking
Speaker 3: for Mike Zimmer, you're looking for something happening.
Speaker 4: There's a couple of where we could have talked about.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, we can hit that. We've got a couple
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Speaker 4: We'll hit it.
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Speaker 3: Matthew asked Gabe Hall how to Baylor Can he play
Speaker 3: one technique in Zimmer's system? Of course, you're talking about
Speaker 3: improving the size, improving the spine of that defense.
Speaker 2: Can Gabe Haul do something like that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: So I think first we need to talk about Gabe
Speaker 6: Hall a little bit more, six foot six pushing three
Speaker 6: hundred pounds, so a tall, tall, tall, tall guy there
Speaker 6: in the middle. He was somebody that overwhelmed everybody physically
Speaker 6: at the.
Speaker 3: Big twelve in these like just yeah, man handled mountains, and.
Speaker 6: That's something I want to talk about. It's it's kind
Speaker 6: of a trend that we're seeing from the high school
Speaker 6: to college ranks too. And you see this big, tall
Speaker 6: guy here in the interior for those for the audio only,
Speaker 6: we got Gabe Hall here on film. But he's physical,
Speaker 6: He's able to get off the line quick. I like
Speaker 6: him more as a three tech. I'm not a huge
Speaker 6: fan of bringing him in as a one because if
Speaker 6: you're bringing him in as a one, you're gonna have
Speaker 6: to put weight on him. That is a fact. You're
Speaker 6: gonna have to put at least thirty thirty five pounds.
Speaker 6: I want to keep him at the weight that he's
Speaker 6: at right now, wherever team he goes, put him at
Speaker 6: three tech and let him operate with a little bit
Speaker 6: more fluidity and a little bit more athleticism. I think
Speaker 6: that'll help him in his game long term. But man,
Speaker 6: once he once he's able to shut his block, he's
Speaker 6: able to create some violent things in the backfield. I
Speaker 6: like gay Paul.
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. You see a guy that's sixty
Speaker 4: six and wearing number ninety five, who do you think
Speaker 4: of David Irving. Okay, remember David Irban. We couldn't figure out,
Speaker 4: like is he where is he?
Speaker 5: He ahead of his time?
Speaker 4: But yeah, he was. He was definitely the Beatles, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean he was. He was. It's so funny because
Speaker 4: I'm gonna spe fishing one day at my lake and
Speaker 4: someone's gass me, who's the best player you ever saw?
Speaker 4: That just kind of just kind of went by the wayside,
Speaker 4: and David Irban is going to be my guy because
Speaker 4: he could play like eighteen plays and have six tackles
Speaker 4: in those eighteen plays and force the fumble. But yeah,
Speaker 4: here's a guy, like you said, you know, probably a
Speaker 4: little bit more of that three technique look than playing inside.
Speaker 4: But man, I'll tell you what, that length is pretty
Speaker 4: impressive with the way that he's kind of been able
Speaker 4: to get rid of those blockers and then get over
Speaker 4: to that football.
Speaker 6: Do you guys remember Jerry Tillery in the twenty nineteen
Speaker 6: draft was a first round pick for the Raiders. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's similar vibes here as far as the length and
Speaker 6: what he's able to do with it. Tillary he had
Speaker 6: a couple of really good years in Vegas, but kind
Speaker 6: of phased out after that. I think he's with the
Speaker 6: Chargers now, but with Gabe Haul, I really like what
Speaker 6: he brings as a three tech type of defensive lineman.
Speaker 6: You look at the size that he has got some
Speaker 6: quick Yeah, he's got that explosiveness off the line. Can
Speaker 6: he line up over center as you see right here? Yeah, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 6: But I want him to be able to focus on
Speaker 6: a three tech type situation.
Speaker 2: As a Waco, Texas native.
Speaker 3: Myself, my opinion, I say he was the best player
Speaker 3: other than Ika on that defense for Dave Randa and
Speaker 3: the Baylor Bears. But I want to ask the Baylor
Speaker 3: Bear himself, Chris Beam in the back, what did you
Speaker 3: think whenever you were watching him play this year? If
Speaker 3: he's able to do it, he may be running running technical.
Speaker 6: Season is not Waco.
Speaker 2: He was a guy I was born in Waco. Come
Speaker 2: on now, he definitely flashed. But I mean Baylor was
Speaker 2: terrible this year.
Speaker 4: Let's be honest with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's said like a true Baylor Bear. Love it
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: Next question coming up, if you could have a Micah
Speaker 3: like rookie season from one player in this draft class,
Speaker 3: what position would you want it to be in? And
Speaker 3: what and why Calvin asked that question, run that back.
Speaker 3: If you wanted a Micah like rookie season, just an
Speaker 3: explosive rookie season from one player in this draft class,
Speaker 3: what position would you want that player to play?
Speaker 6: Wow, that's a that's an interesting one. Does offensive line count?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 6: The offensive line?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I mean you'd love you'd love for that
Speaker 4: somebody who plays center come in here and coming in
Speaker 4: all bro and be an all Pro right off the Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think linebackers another position too. You know, I know
Speaker 4: that a lot of people are are kind of throwing
Speaker 4: these different linebackers. Eisch and I were walking in we
Speaker 4: were talking about Colson from from Michigan, and every time,
Speaker 4: you know, you talk about somebody from Michigan, everybody kind
Speaker 4: of just turns the radio for sure. But you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: if you could give me a center, a linebacker, I
Speaker 4: would absolutely or an offense, uh I say, maybe a tackle.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't you don't know what's gonna happen
Speaker 4: with with Tyron Smith in that situation, or we'll see
Speaker 4: what happens with the the you know, the guys that
Speaker 4: are currently on the roster. But man, if you're going
Speaker 4: to if you're going to give me one, give me
Speaker 4: a center that they play at a very very high level.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're talking Michael rookie year. Uh, we were surprised.
Speaker 5: It was like, surprise he could play d N. Oh yeah, listen, honey,
Speaker 5: I would love a surprise.
Speaker 7: Oh he could really play running back and we can
Speaker 7: run the ball.
Speaker 5: And again it's not it's.
Speaker 2: Not you want an Ezekiel Elliott type rookie.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, no, I mean Micah's Micah's rookie year was
Speaker 7: when when you mentioned his rookie year, I look at
Speaker 7: it more of the surprise of.
Speaker 5: Him being able to have that flex at d N.
Speaker 7: So for me, I'm like, Okay, if you have a
Speaker 7: running back that comes in here, maybe they can add
Speaker 7: something different to your even if it's even if it's
Speaker 7: like a third down guy or a guy that can
Speaker 7: like I want to see if there's a gentleman that
Speaker 7: can come in here and affect the run game, because
Speaker 7: I think that's going to be important moving forward for
Speaker 7: this team.
Speaker 6: So you look what young fresh legs did for Detroit
Speaker 6: and what they were talk.
Speaker 5: About in the balance they had, right.
Speaker 6: So maybe last couple of years.
Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe you're not picking super high, like like you
Speaker 7: just mentioned Kansas City with Pacheco. Like, maybe you're not
Speaker 7: picking super duper high for running back. But if you
Speaker 7: can have a guy that comes in here and he's
Speaker 7: a surprise or he's a good addition to what you
Speaker 7: do offensively, I think that means you're moving in the
Speaker 7: right direction as an offense, because you need to be
Speaker 7: able to.
Speaker 5: Talk the rock.
Speaker 3: Matt asked kind of along the same questions as you
Speaker 3: were alluding to with Micah. Are there any players that
Speaker 3: could add be asked to switch positions based.
Speaker 2: Off of where they're going.
Speaker 3: We talked about position flex a couple of shows last week,
Speaker 3: but I'll start with you, Brian. Anybody on your list
Speaker 3: so far that you can see, hey, maybe they'll end
Speaker 3: up switching positions moving forward, that's I haven't.
Speaker 4: I haven't thought about it that way. You have one.
Speaker 4: I think so because I was talking about the I
Speaker 4: was talking about the that the Iowa corner, you know,
Speaker 4: or I thought he might be a safety safety To
Speaker 4: be honest with you, I thought that might be a
Speaker 4: better you know, with the with the ball skills and
Speaker 4: the range and his tackling ability. I kind of thought
Speaker 4: that maybe that But I haven't really thought about.
Speaker 6: He was a safety prospect. Yeah, Iowa converted.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's there's these offensive linemen there. You know,
Speaker 4: we we've kind of we've kind of talked about a
Speaker 4: Graham Barton, you know, is that I mean that's a
Speaker 4: guy's played tackle guard. You know, he was a left
Speaker 4: tackle at at Duke. You know, is that a guy
Speaker 4: that's now you know? Would that guy be your center?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 4: You know, I think that we kind of agree that
Speaker 4: would be a direction that we would would go for there.
Speaker 4: But that's really the only guys that I was kind
Speaker 4: of thinking about right now.
Speaker 5: That was a good question that I felt like.
Speaker 7: Nick asked a lot of the gentlemen at the Shrine Bowl,
Speaker 7: was you know.
Speaker 5: If you could switch? Do you think you could?
Speaker 7: And a lot of the guys said, you know, because
Speaker 7: it's just kind of what happens sometimes in.
Speaker 5: This league especially.
Speaker 7: He asked a lot of the corner players if they're
Speaker 7: going to but when you talk about somebody.
Speaker 5: I think that somebody might.
Speaker 7: Look at as a safety. He was recruited as a safety.
Speaker 7: Tyryon Arnold cornerback out of Alabama. Yeah, six foot one,
Speaker 7: ninety six. I feel like people could look at his
Speaker 7: ranginess and how long he is and things like that.
Speaker 5: And see maybe they see a safety or.
Speaker 4: Like a Brian Branch right back to safety.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean he has had a great rookie year two.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he has.
Speaker 7: It's his own discipline and balance and patience.
Speaker 5: That I think allows will allow him to do that.
Speaker 7: But he also can and go from hash to hash
Speaker 7: and move move people out the way. He's he has
Speaker 7: a really strong recovery speed and he's good and impressed
Speaker 7: as well. So maybe tyry On Arnold is someone and
Speaker 7: maybe people look at it at safety.
Speaker 4: I did. That's that's actually a really good one I
Speaker 4: looked at I was looking at my linebackers and I
Speaker 4: was thinking, has anybody studied Kaylen DeLoach from Florida State.
Speaker 4: Kaylen DeLoach is six ' one, He's two hundred and
Speaker 4: fifteen pounds. Where's number four at Florida State. And he's
Speaker 4: a guy that's a linebacker at Florida State. And I
Speaker 4: wonder at six one two point fifteen if they're going
Speaker 4: to have to move him as a safety or a
Speaker 4: sub package player. This guy gets after the ball, you know.
Speaker 4: And I was just I mean, we need to see
Speaker 4: because at six one two fifteen, how about Beamer having
Speaker 4: some highlights where you're right here. But this kid's a
Speaker 4: hell of a player. And but again, that size is
Speaker 4: will be a problem playing as a linebacker. But man,
Speaker 4: when you study him play. This is against Boston College
Speaker 4: right here, I mean, he's more than willing to step
Speaker 4: up and make tackles, make plays. But I just don't know.
Speaker 4: Could it be very much like what we deal with
Speaker 4: with Bell here, you know, because of the size and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. But he might be that guy that is,
Speaker 4: like I said, strong safety down in the box, sub
Speaker 4: player that you can you could put him in some
Speaker 4: in coverage because you watch him play. He plays really
Speaker 4: really well in space too, So maybe you have some
Speaker 4: heares on the outside here I'm beam coming up with
Speaker 4: these great highlights for you. But yeah, on the blitz
Speaker 4: right here, look at the clothes right there. Look at
Speaker 4: that first Yeah, yeah, that's against Clemson. So there you
Speaker 4: go create and turnovers, getting the ball and then a
Speaker 4: little scoop and score action there for the seminoles.
Speaker 6: I hate to see that. Oh my god, Kate club Nick,
Speaker 6: But yeah.
Speaker 7: Nick, are you is Javon Bullert from Georgia, A safety
Speaker 7: or a corner.
Speaker 6: I like him more as a safety. I want to
Speaker 6: keep him where he's at. He's he does have that
Speaker 6: corner type ability though, and they stepped him up at Nickel.
Speaker 5: As many times this past season while I was asked.
Speaker 6: But I I think with his range, with his ability
Speaker 6: to kind of be able to cover that from the
Speaker 6: defensive backfield, have everything in front of him, That's what
Speaker 6: I would want. And you know, I've questioned what his
Speaker 6: speed will look like at the combine a couple of
Speaker 6: times on the show. With that in mind, I'd like
Speaker 6: to keep him in safety.
Speaker 4: Has anybody's seen Kaylen speaking of bullet Kaylan Bullock from
Speaker 4: USC Yeah, have you seen Okay, he's sixty three, he's
Speaker 4: one hundred and ninety pounds, you know, and he plays
Speaker 4: as a free safety. I maybe, I mean, he makes
Speaker 4: a lot of plays with the ball in the air,
Speaker 4: and so I was kind of wondering, maybe, you know,
Speaker 4: here's a corner sat I'm trying of trying to find
Speaker 4: that again that Brian Branch trying kind of player, the
Speaker 4: guy that can play safety but can also potentially play
Speaker 4: in the slot and cover and blitz and do some things.
Speaker 4: So there's guys just because of some of the heightened
Speaker 4: height and weight. But Kaylan Bullock, he's like say sixty
Speaker 4: three one ninety, he wears number seven at USC might
Speaker 4: be a guy that you want to take care because
Speaker 4: my final note on him was his covered skills are
Speaker 4: what are going to get him drafted in the league,
Speaker 4: along with his ability to read routes. So I wonder
Speaker 4: if he's a safety that's probably should be playing corner
Speaker 4: or should be playing more as a nickel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, next question, This one comes from JP.
Speaker 3: He says, thoughts on Xavier Leget out of South Carolina,
Speaker 3: the wide receiver, big playability, Where would you have to
Speaker 3: draft him, and how could he fit into your offense
Speaker 3: if you wanted to attack wide receiver.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's an interesting one. He's one that I spent
Speaker 6: a lot of time watching at Senior Bowl. First day.
Speaker 6: He had a very, very rough day. I think if
Speaker 6: you're looking at one of the bigger followers from the
Speaker 6: Senior Bowl, you're looking at Xavier leg But I'm not
Speaker 6: out on him what he was able to do at
Speaker 6: South Carolina this past season. He's a big play guy
Speaker 6: that you can get the ball in space to, and
Speaker 6: he will take off, He'll go and he'll be able
Speaker 6: to do it. I compare him Cordero Patterson in that
Speaker 6: same sense because he can also work some things out
Speaker 6: of the backfield with his build. I think there's a
Speaker 6: lot of different things you can do in an off
Speaker 6: with Xavier Lagette, and it makes him an intriguing type
Speaker 6: of weapon. What I put in my notes here after
Speaker 6: Senior Bowl, struggled at Senior Bowl and soul stock Fall
Speaker 6: with the long, speed and physicality still make him a
Speaker 6: legit offensive weapon out of the backfield and in the
Speaker 6: receiving game. So I like Lagette. I think it's he
Speaker 6: probably slipped to late the late third round. He's probably
Speaker 6: a late day two option now. But if you're looking
Speaker 6: for a big, beefy receiver that you want to bring
Speaker 6: in and has some versatility with six foot one, two
Speaker 6: hundred and twenty three pounds, that's a guy you can have.
Speaker 7: Yeah, physical at the catch point and he's he's very
Speaker 7: physical through his routes as well. The concentration is there,
Speaker 7: you know, the way he fights do trash. But yeah,
Speaker 7: when you mentioned the separation and some of that stuff,
Speaker 7: maybe that's something that.
Speaker 5: Gives people pause.
Speaker 7: But I think, I know, I know that Rashid Rice
Speaker 7: isn't as big as him. But we've been there, done
Speaker 7: that with thinking that guys just because they don't separate
Speaker 7: a whole much, they can't play the game.
Speaker 5: Found out already.
Speaker 4: He just wanted to how was he run after catch? Yeah?
Speaker 6: I love it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Does he does he have any traits like what Deebo
Speaker 4: Samuel does. Yeah, it's better than remember South Carolina.
Speaker 5: It's really just like he's just I mean, can you.
Speaker 4: Hand him the ball? Can you move him around?
Speaker 9: You think?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the temperament. Yeah, he has the temperament to
Speaker 7: do those things. He's the temperament he I put down,
Speaker 7: he's that's my ball.
Speaker 5: That's that's that's the type of player he is.
Speaker 7: But but to your point, it's not like you're not
Speaker 7: gonna get super.
Speaker 5: Sharp route running and stuff from him consistently.
Speaker 7: But if you get the ball in his hands, yeah,
Speaker 7: he's gonna make something happen.
Speaker 6: He's got the Dbo thighs too.
Speaker 4: When you say that's six, I haven't seen the player.
Speaker 4: But when you say six to one and you say
Speaker 4: two twenty three, you know, I start to think of
Speaker 4: you know, running back kind of build. Yep, you know.
Speaker 4: But if if run after catch and all that's really good,
Speaker 4: maybe maybe you have a similar type player that someone
Speaker 4: will find ways to use him in the backfield as well.
Speaker 6: There's a play on his film. I forget who they're playing,
Speaker 6: but they're they're lining up twenty five yard lines starting
Speaker 6: a drive and it's just a simple crosser over the
Speaker 6: middle and he explodes out of there. It's up quick
Speaker 6: and he's gone long. Speed is incredible. I think he's
Speaker 6: a weapon that you can definitely use in a lot
Speaker 6: of different ways at the next level.
Speaker 2: There you go, all right, along with Xavier Leget.
Speaker 3: I've got a couple names I want to hit when
Speaker 3: we come back, and it's based off of a tweet
Speaker 3: from our very own Nick Harris. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 3: that here in a couple of moments when we come
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Speaker 3: Back here on the Draft Show, presented by Miller Like
Speaker 3: Glad you're with us here on this Tuesday again. We'll
Speaker 3: be back on Thursday eleven am Central to continue breaking
Speaker 3: down this twenty twenty four draft class.
Speaker 2: But I think it's time to break down one of
Speaker 2: Nick Harris's best tweets of the week in My Thing to.
Speaker 3: Do, And we're gonna break it down player by player,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna see if we we like this. So
Speaker 3: on was this Friday? I think it was Friday ish,
Speaker 3: Thursday or Friday. Nick asked for some NFL Draft questions.
Speaker 3: He wanted to answer some questions on Twitter. Joseph Hoyt
Speaker 3: out of Texas Lone Star Life says, give a position
Speaker 3: in player comp for every member of the draft show
Speaker 3: oh my god. And Nick Harris responded and he provided
Speaker 3: a position in player comp for every person in.
Speaker 6: The draft with a little trade with a little bit
Speaker 6: of why he.
Speaker 2: Thought that was the case. So we're gonna start things
Speaker 2: off with Chris Beam in the back, he said.
Speaker 3: Isaiah Davis, running back out of South Dakota State said,
Speaker 3: don't forget about the FCS slash producers.
Speaker 2: Why did that one work out for you?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Beam's got the Isaiah Davis film ready to go.
Speaker 6: Look at these long legs from Isaiah Davis. This is
Speaker 6: a guy who's had fourteen hundred plus yards and each
Speaker 6: of the last two seasons a really productive runner for
Speaker 6: the back to back national champions. You look at what
Speaker 6: they were able to do offensively, it ran straight through
Speaker 6: Isaiah Davis. This is a guy that will perform at
Speaker 6: the next level. He will be a running back on
Speaker 6: a team next year that you will want to pick
Speaker 6: up on your fantasy team. Type of guy. I mean,
Speaker 6: this is I really like Isaiah Davis. This is a
Speaker 6: sneaker running back that you can get in the fourth round, fourth,
Speaker 6: fifth round, and he'll have production of the day he
Speaker 6: steps on.
Speaker 4: A He's very high cut, as we'd say in the
Speaker 4: scouting world, long legs, short up your body.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, very high legs, long legs.
Speaker 2: He got an invite to the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 6: Right shrine. Gosh, I don't remember mix.
Speaker 2: He was in one of the All Star Games.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of jack rabbits in Frisco, so
Speaker 3: I just kind of relied on that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's he's fun. And that was Chris Beams
Speaker 2: comp physical.
Speaker 4: Wow being just ran over, just ran over the guy.
Speaker 4: The dot com guy at the Buccaneers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, easy money.
Speaker 3: Uh, I can't wait for Draft Day and we're gonna
Speaker 3: take all these comps and we're gonna say, up, Beam
Speaker 3: just went off the board.
Speaker 2: He should just went off the board.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about aisha cornerback Chris Abrams, drain, scrappy and
Speaker 3: assertive was the.
Speaker 2: Reason why Nick Harris gave that comp. You guys have
Speaker 2: talked about him a little bit out of Missouri.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah. Absolutely, he's he's gonna he's gonna come on
Speaker 6: the field and you're not gonna think that he's the
Speaker 6: most imposing corner in the world. That he's gonna make
Speaker 6: you feel you and he's he's really strong. I really
Speaker 6: like what he does in coverage. I gave him a
Speaker 6: lot of flak early in this draft show. Now I
Speaker 6: saw him at Senior Bowl, and I understood his abilities
Speaker 6: a little bit more. No, no, no, come on. When
Speaker 6: I understood his abilities a little bit more, I kind
Speaker 6: of fell in love with the prospect a little bit more.
Speaker 6: I still think he's I teeter with late Day two,
Speaker 6: early Day three with him, just because I think there's
Speaker 6: a lot that he'll give up in big play opportunities.
Speaker 6: But I love Chris Abram strain from a scrappiness stand,
Speaker 6: I think it's perfect.
Speaker 4: I think you got her. I think you got her nailed.
Speaker 11: Here.
Speaker 7: We talked about and what they're doing there putting together
Speaker 7: a good program.
Speaker 4: Here's here it is, Aysha yet a nice low back pedal,
Speaker 4: powerful hands, disrept receivers early in her out. Please can
Speaker 4: get under and turn it run in press coverage. Gotta
Speaker 4: love this could flip the hips, run down, feel quick,
Speaker 4: surprisingly powerful, it has explosive is an explosive athlete. Ability
Speaker 4: to break on the ball close. The close is phenomenal
Speaker 4: on this guy and at rare ball skills. He puts
Speaker 4: himself in position to make plays on the ball. He
Speaker 4: finds it. He plays with awareness. There's instincts when Facian
Speaker 4: when he has action in zone coverage and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: and he's not afraid to tackle. I mean he does
Speaker 4: in a variety of ways. The way this guy plays.
Speaker 6: So do you worry about the big play? Giving up
Speaker 6: the big play? It's not that he knew at Missouri
Speaker 6: necessarily so much. It's his his traits and what he
Speaker 6: does instincts. I would say, yeah, it's instincts that allow it.
Speaker 6: At the NFL level that I think could not translate. Well, yeah,
Speaker 6: he doesn't flip those hips as fluidly as I would
Speaker 6: love him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that to me, like they say, there
Speaker 4: you're if you watch the LSU game, because they l
Speaker 4: it was a man. LSU did a nice job of
Speaker 4: throwing the ball that game, and that was It was
Speaker 4: a little bit of a little bit of prompt. I
Speaker 4: think because some of the things you're talk about. I
Speaker 4: think it's just maybe a size because he's not the
Speaker 4: biggest guy weight wise. It's like one hundred and seventy
Speaker 4: eight pound guy you're doing with one of those Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So so you really went deep into this.
Speaker 6: Comp like I gave these like five minutes of fun whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see Cooper BB, guard out of Kansas State,
Speaker 3: said that's the man, and he comped that to Zach
Speaker 3: Woldchuck said, Zach Woldchuck is Cooper BB's.
Speaker 6: The man, and also Zach loves Cooper.
Speaker 2: So that was Yeah, that was a good one.
Speaker 6: That was the easiest one to throw it. It was perfect.
Speaker 3: And we talked a lot about Cooper BB in one
Speaker 3: of the previous shows. Yeah, not this past week, but
Speaker 3: the week before. So if you haven't listened to that yet,
Speaker 3: you can go back and listen to it.
Speaker 4: He's got an old school build to him, by the way.
Speaker 4: That's why I think I like he's just a mauler.
Speaker 5: I mean, I would say the temperament is yeah school too.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Man, push of knock guys down as many. I mean,
Speaker 4: anybody gets his way just kind of knocks knocks him down.
Speaker 3: So Walchuck did to me in the hallway the other day.
Speaker 3: I just turned the corner and he hit me and
Speaker 3: I was on the floor. Pancake block, That's what happened.
Speaker 4: Uh, this one's a good one.
Speaker 3: Brian brought us Is Jackson Powers Johnson the Oregon Center.
Speaker 3: He said he's a tone center.
Speaker 4: Oh thank you. I appreciate that. Uh. You know, yeah,
Speaker 4: I wish I had this kind of rare athletic traits.
Speaker 4: I would have I would have played a lot more
Speaker 4: at Elish instead of just being a snapper. Yeah, this
Speaker 4: guy's got the right attitude about it, and there's a mean,
Speaker 4: nasty streak to his game. We've talked about him. He's
Speaker 4: he has a problem for defenders to deal with in
Speaker 4: space because he's got some of that road greater mentality
Speaker 4: to him, the foot speed, the movement, very good angles,
Speaker 4: getting second level. The toughness is just so impressive with
Speaker 4: this guy. And you don't see him getting making busts
Speaker 4: assignments you know with guys when they run twist. He's
Speaker 4: got everything kind of in front of him, keeps him
Speaker 4: from He's not fooled, and you can see he loves
Speaker 4: to play the game. And that's I think the most
Speaker 4: important thing about him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, my favorite part about him is just the fact
Speaker 7: that you can. You can have a toolbox. Boy, you
Speaker 7: better bring every single one you have, because his ability
Speaker 7: to counter with his hands is so impressive to me,
Speaker 7: and the way he's able to recover.
Speaker 5: He's not beat often. Let's just keep it a buck like,
Speaker 5: he's not beat.
Speaker 7: Often, but the minute that a DN or somebody thinks
Speaker 7: that he's beat, he's like.
Speaker 5: Oh no, just kidding back fu. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Like, And it's the finishing blocks as well as that
Speaker 7: he's because that's one thing I noticed about this a
Speaker 7: lot of the guys in this class is I find
Speaker 7: myself being like finished the block, just I need another
Speaker 7: more second, just to tick longer and hold that block up.
Speaker 5: And this guy is so sturdy and dependable as well.
Speaker 3: I went back and watched my comps for not comps,
Speaker 3: but really rating and scouting report for Tyler Linderbaum back
Speaker 3: a couple of drafts ago. This is my fifth year
Speaker 3: of doing pure rankings and scouting reports for the Draft
Speaker 3: Show and Dallas Cowboys Dot Com. If I had to
Speaker 3: combine all five draft classes, Tyler Linderbaum would be my
Speaker 3: number one center, Jackson Powers Johnson would be my number
Speaker 3: two out of all of those.
Speaker 2: And you think it could flip.
Speaker 3: I think it's not very far off, and I would
Speaker 3: probably put Linderbaumb just a little bit of ahead of
Speaker 3: what I had what I have currently for Jackson Powers Johnson.
Speaker 3: You're right, by the end of it all, I could
Speaker 3: flip it. But right now those are one two, And
Speaker 3: that's a compliment in itself, the fact that that's five
Speaker 3: years of draft classes and if you're saying this guy
Speaker 3: is that good to where Tyler Linderbaum's a multiple pro
Speaker 3: bowler by this point, I think you've got something working
Speaker 3: in the right direction, and that's exactly what Jackson Powers
Speaker 3: Johnson has.
Speaker 6: That's funny you mentioned that, because along with the h
Speaker 6: that same kind of questions that I was answering back
Speaker 6: on Friday, somebody had asked me about the comparison between
Speaker 6: Tyler Linderbaum and Jackson Powers Johnson, and gosh, I'm trying
Speaker 6: to find it. It's the question was, wasn't Tyler Linnerbaum
Speaker 6: a better center prospect than Jackson Powers Johnson and he
Speaker 6: went picked twenty five? What makes you question JPJ goes
Speaker 6: even earlier than him? And I was like, to be fair,
Speaker 6: I think we're all starting to bridge into Linderbaum hype.
Speaker 6: For JPJ. It's just happened much faster because of Linderbaum.
Speaker 6: I mean, he was at Iowa, you had that going
Speaker 6: the end to his last season, and he's like, Okay,
Speaker 6: this is the center prospect and Jackson Power Johnson I
Speaker 6: feel like has really made all his money in the
Speaker 6: last month. Yeah, it's it's it's it's really stacking up
Speaker 6: for him, just much quicker. And you look at the
Speaker 6: age difference. I think as well, I think that's gonna
Speaker 6: be JPJ such a more interesting prospect at the end
Speaker 6: of the day. Does he end up going higher than
Speaker 6: twenty five? I think so. I think you'd I think
Speaker 6: it'd be shocked if you did.
Speaker 4: You pick somebody for yourself.
Speaker 6: So I did.
Speaker 5: I picked uh.
Speaker 6: I picked Jonathan Brooks, first year starter and doesn't really
Speaker 6: know what the future holds because I choose what I
Speaker 6: you for dinner like five minutes before every night.
Speaker 3: So I was I was thinking, I was thinking, have
Speaker 3: you guys coming off of an acl sirch Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, first year starter, doesn't really know what's going on,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 4: I was thinking, have you I was thinking of you
Speaker 4: maybe as a lad McConkey, I'll take you. That's good
Speaker 4: for Georgia scrappy. Yeah, this guy's played a ton of
Speaker 4: big games in his career and he shows up well.
Speaker 4: He's a fluid moving athlete. He's slippery side to his game.
Speaker 4: He's one of the best route runners I've studied in.
Speaker 2: This draft technician.
Speaker 4: He was acceptive with his speed with a burst, you
Speaker 4: would not think he's going anywhere with the ball. Then
Speaker 4: the next thing you know, he's off to the races.
Speaker 4: He's just one of those types of guys. He's a
Speaker 4: short air quickness player. He can create opportunities at different
Speaker 4: levels of the defense. I mentioned about the routes, good
Speaker 4: quickness off the line that he can escape. He catches
Speaker 4: the ball with ease. If it's anywhere near him, he's
Speaker 4: going to make the play. And he just got toughness,
Speaker 4: is a willingness to go get it, and he's skilled
Speaker 4: when finding the ball. That's a great job of tracking, attacking.
Speaker 4: One of the best in the country and it comes
Speaker 4: to receiving touchdowns and first down.
Speaker 7: That's funny that you picked it for that for him,
Speaker 7: because I actually said one of the best.
Speaker 4: This guy's one of my favorite players.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he's one of the best at the
Speaker 7: top of the route that I've seen and transition from
Speaker 7: top speed and being able to stop on a dine
Speaker 7: with good releases. I was the separation he's able to
Speaker 7: create consistently.
Speaker 5: It's very impressive.
Speaker 7: So he has a good feel for the position. You
Speaker 7: can see that it's it's not it's not too fast
Speaker 7: for him. Things seem like they're slowed down for him.
Speaker 4: If you like Pokin Na Koua feel like this guy.
Speaker 8: That's fair.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And he gave people the business at the Senior Bone.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean almost here.
Speaker 4: Doesn't care who lines up across the room. He is
Speaker 4: going to run a route that's going to corkscrew somebody
Speaker 4: into the ground.
Speaker 2: Was he on the All Practice team. I want to
Speaker 2: say he was for I'm sure he was voted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they always thought somebody had Yeah. The defensive backs
Speaker 4: I think voted him matter. I mean that's it's usually
Speaker 4: the opposite to who you know you're facing against. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The by the way, the the comp that he had
Speaker 3: for me was Xavier. Look at who just broke down
Speaker 3: in the previous segment. He was worried about his size.
Speaker 3: He was worried about translating to the next level.
Speaker 6: I appreciate you a big play guy, didn't I Yeah
Speaker 6: you did. You said big Yeah, get out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 7: But I'm so finally I'm glad we finally brought up
Speaker 7: lab mccomptly.
Speaker 5: I feel like it's it's it's it's overdue.
Speaker 4: That's overdue. I'll tell you what. He's a lot of
Speaker 4: fun to watch on tape. He's not hard to find,
Speaker 4: you know. He just every time the you know, the
Speaker 4: beck the quarterback which is shot back and he needs
Speaker 4: a big play, he's gonna throw it to eighty four.
Speaker 3: We always talk about those guys that you're watching one player, yeah,
Speaker 3: and the other guys show up. You're watching brock Bowers
Speaker 3: tear up defenses in the SEC and every couple of
Speaker 3: plays you start seeing, yeah, you start seeing eighty four
Speaker 3: flash across the screen.
Speaker 2: You're like, holy, it's.
Speaker 4: Even fun when they put eighty four nineteen on the
Speaker 4: same side of the field and they're running routes for
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 5: Yea, just to stop and to stop and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's just crazy.
Speaker 6: Should we talk about brock Bowers really quick and how
Speaker 6: he's going to be under the fiftieth percentile for basically
Speaker 6: every single tight end measurement and measurable that you could ask.
Speaker 6: You hate brock Bowers, No, no, no, I'm just I'm
Speaker 6: just throwing that out there as a potential concern with
Speaker 6: brock Bowers, that there was a picture that had got
Speaker 6: posted over the weekend at Super Bowl weekend and him
Speaker 6: standing next to Gronk and it.
Speaker 4: Looked like a different player, didn't Yeah.
Speaker 6: Brock looked like he he was, you know, like a
Speaker 6: sailing sailing a car insurance. Yeah, you know, so it's
Speaker 6: it's it's different. It's there's definitely a difference there. I mean,
Speaker 6: he is that shorter stock of your guy.
Speaker 3: Everyone knows that he sacrifices that size for his speed,
Speaker 3: because he really does have beat in verticality absolutely balanced,
Speaker 3: and I've seen some mocks slip him to as far
Speaker 3: back as fifteen.
Speaker 6: I've seen him go as high as number five.
Speaker 5: Overall.
Speaker 6: I think it's an interesting prospect for sure. But I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't know if we're having this conversation about brock
Speaker 6: Bower as a day one type of guy that can
Speaker 6: walk onto an NFL team and contribute immediately. I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know about that. Do I think eventually? Absolutely?
Speaker 6: I mean, this is a dynamic offensive weapon you see
Speaker 6: when he's done for Georgia. I trust in brock Bowers,
Speaker 6: but I think there's gonna have to be a little
Speaker 6: bit more size added there.
Speaker 4: I really do think if he gets your spot, you're
Speaker 4: taking him.
Speaker 7: The versatility and the uniqueness of the player does make
Speaker 7: you want to be like he because he can do
Speaker 7: so many different things.
Speaker 5: It was different.
Speaker 7: It would be different to me if he was just
Speaker 7: a straight up tight end and whatever the case.
Speaker 9: Dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure I have to like that Cede lamp pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a Cede Lambscenaria.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You think, like, oh, we're
Speaker 4: talking about sinners, and we're talking about you know, all
Speaker 4: these other positions.
Speaker 3: Can I trade Jake Ferguson if I take him?
Speaker 7: You can't afford to the world what oh that you
Speaker 7: can afford to get rid of Jake Ferguson Because.
Speaker 2: You say're drafting a first round tight end, you got
Speaker 2: to trade somebody. You trade Schoolmaker. Nobody's going to.
Speaker 3: Take Schoonmaker for anything close to what you want. Ferguson's
Speaker 3: values high. Right now, I'm not saying I would want
Speaker 3: to do this. Let's get that straight.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, Would he be your best
Speaker 4: player on your board if he got to you at
Speaker 4: twenty four? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Probably he might be.
Speaker 5: Like he can do a lot.
Speaker 4: But also can take guys like Pitt's Better from Atlanta,
Speaker 4: Florida like.
Speaker 6: A prospect as a prospect, I think so.
Speaker 4: But I just liking. I just liking this Georgia guy.
Speaker 5: I like it.
Speaker 7: I like him.
Speaker 4: I think I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Did you have not? Carings was one of my top guys?
Speaker 4: He was, but you watched this kid play. I think
Speaker 4: right about it because.
Speaker 7: He's not he's not, but it will be different when
Speaker 7: you talk about the size he's up for the task.
Speaker 7: In blocking, he's not even even though you're you know,
Speaker 7: I think that the explosiveness and the way that he
Speaker 7: works through he works through things is going to stand
Speaker 7: out to people. And he can get up at the
Speaker 7: second level as well. But he can cut in the
Speaker 7: open field.
Speaker 5: He could be a weapon. And it depends on what.
Speaker 5: I guess it just depends on what you're looking for.
Speaker 7: It comes from a football family, comes from an athletic family, period,
Speaker 7: so he knows what the moment calls for.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not saying about on brock Powers. I want
Speaker 6: the rest. We know that we're not fussing at you
Speaker 6: twenty four.
Speaker 4: I want the record of the show.
Speaker 2: I'm not actually trying to trade Jake Ferguson. I love
Speaker 2: jac heard what you're saying. No, no, you stop it.
Speaker 4: We heard what you said, Savior, no question.
Speaker 2: Come on now. All right, that's it for us today
Speaker 2: on the Draft Show.
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