1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: room for insider news and draft analysis from deep within 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frisco. 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: There are seventy one days away. 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: From the NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan. Welcome into the 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: Draft Show, presented by Miller lte a taste you can 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: depend on. You can depend on us to provide some 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: investigation and education for the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: We've got Nick Harris. 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: Brian brought us back in the building after a great 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 3: week in Las Vegas. Ayisha Morrison, I'm Kyle Yeomans with 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 3: Chris Beam running everything in the back. 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: Brian, howid Vegas. 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 4: It was very nice and I want to give you 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 4: guys a compliment. I was listening to the show and 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: I thought, you guys did a hell of a job. 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 4: Appreciate the way you guys kick names around and again 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 4: you talk about educating people. Some of the most proudest 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 4: moments that I had I had people in radio row 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 4: come up to me and tell me how much they 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 4: enjoy their Draft show. And these are guys and galas 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: from around the country, some national media members as well, 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: like they're like, you guys do a hell of a 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 4: job on that draft show. And so I said, hey, 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 4: we've got a great crew, we got a great fan 26 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: base that follows us. That makes it makes it all worthwhile. 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 4: Every once in a while you have to help your 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 4: buddies here with their water bottles, even though they're retired military. Yeah, 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 4: seeing things you'll never see back there. 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 5: I was struggling. 31 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 4: Now you're good. You don't struggle looking at them players. 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 4: But yeah, but yeah, that's what matters here. But cheers 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 4: to by the way, Happy Fat Tuesday to everybody out there. Yeah, 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: getting your Mardi Gral on. But yeah, so proud of 35 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: you guys. Great shows. And then also the people that 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: coming up to me national media and saying, hey, you 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 4: guys have a hell of a show there. So and 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 4: thank to them, and thanks to the people who follow 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: us throughout the. 40 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: Year, no doubt about that. 41 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: That's awesome And it's odd thinking I was thinking about 42 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: it on the way to go get some coffee here 43 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: in a second ago, and I was like, man, Brian 44 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: hadn't been on for three shows. It's er that you 45 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 3: you aren't on for that period of time. 46 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: But we are glad to be bad I was losing. 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: He's probably watched fifty players since he was last on 48 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: this show because he had to get it going. 49 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 4: But we're glad to have you back. 50 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: Glad can get you back safe, and we'll have Brian 51 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: or Bobby and Zach on through later shows as well 52 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: as they make their return from Las Vegas too. All Right, 53 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: it's time to talk about Mike Zimmer. Of course, it's 54 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: official now he is your defensive coordinator. 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: In Dallas. 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 3: There was always the dan Quinn guys, right, there was 57 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: always those guys that you look at that are the long, lanky, athletics, 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 3: speedy defensive players. 59 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: Does Mike Zimmer have a type of guy? Brian? 60 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think what you're gonna now going to realize 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: with Mike is he's going to ask you for some 62 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 4: press corners. He's going to ask you for some guys 63 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: that have those sweet feet that we like to talk about, 64 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: the ability to jam, to turn, to run, to carry. 65 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 4: Those are all things that we're gonna have to look about. 66 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: We're gonna have to talk about those ones and those 67 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: three techniques inside. He's always had a good combination of 68 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 4: those guys. He's played with some small linebackers in his day. 69 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 4: He's played with some long linebackers in his day. He 70 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 4: likes the safety that's going to play with some range. 71 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: It's going to play with his eyes. You know, a 72 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 4: guy like a Harrison Smith who he had at Notre Dame. 73 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: You know that type of a player, a physical player. 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: Darren Woodson goes all the way back to the Super 75 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 4: Bowl days. But yeah, he has a certain kind of player. 76 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 4: And talking to Zim, there's a couple of things that 77 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: he's that he's going to look at coming in. He's 78 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 4: he's he's going to take a look at the staff. 79 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: He's got to meet with this staff that's still currently 80 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 4: here and kind of figure out because the QUI U 81 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: and I asked, is okay, are you're going to bring 82 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: a couple of guys in. You know there's some guys 83 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: that have left that and goes, well, I just got 84 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: to meet with the guys that are currently here and 85 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: kind of figure that out. Now, remember Sharif Floyd played 86 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 4: for him in Minnesota, so you know, hopefully Sharif will 87 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 4: get that opportunity. But Mike is really excited about being here. 88 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: I'm happy for him, but he is going to want 89 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 4: players that are smart, tough and get after the ball 90 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: and are dependable. And that's that's something that he's always 91 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 4: hung his hat on. And those are the types of 92 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: defensive players. You know. If you're seeing a guy on tape, 93 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 4: we're all evaluating here, and this guy looks like, okay, 94 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 4: football intelligence, Oh wow, look at this guy get off blocks. 95 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 4: Oh look at this guy close. Oh look at this 96 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 4: guy tackle. That's a Mike Zimmer type player. I'm sure 97 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 4: there's a lot of coaches out there, but Mike specifically 98 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 4: likes those guys that have the football intelligence but also 99 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 4: on the outside can play a little press coverage to 100 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 4: and run with those receivers. 101 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 6: When you talk about discipline, you talk about physicality. I 102 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 6: think that's two things that any fan would love to 103 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 6: have on this defense going forward. 104 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: So absolute right. 105 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 6: I think it's interesting with how he attacks the draft process. 106 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 6: And I mentioned this on Talking Cowboys, but somebody had 107 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 6: asked me yesterday if with Mike Zimmer now in the building, 108 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 6: does a guy like Tovandre Sweat become more of a 109 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 6: big time target, like a big, physical defensive tackle who's wide. 110 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 6: It's like, it doesn't matter if it's Mike Zimmer Hans Zimmer. 111 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 6: It doesn't matter. Defensive coordinator could be any of us 112 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 6: at this table. You have to be able to solidify 113 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 6: the middle of the spine of that defense. You got 114 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 6: to get defensive tackle help, you got to get linebacker help. 115 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 6: I'd be okay with a big safety as well. So 116 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 6: being able to bring that physicality along with with Mike Zimmer, 117 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 6: I think that's going to be the biggest thing in 118 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 6: what we look forward to as the draft process goes. 119 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, Brian mentioned the IQ players and things like that. 120 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 7: When you look at Zimmer systems, you know, adaptability is 121 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 7: one of the best things you could put on your resume. 122 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 7: Correct And one thing I noticed about him is that, uh, 123 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 7: he plays the matchup game really well. But with the adaptability, 124 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 7: he's not asking guys to do totally different things. You 125 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 7: have to be to do multiple things within your position 126 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 7: and do them well and stick to them and do 127 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 7: them well. So I think that's the most exciting thing 128 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 7: about the hire to me is my basket worker still 129 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 7: did a great breakdown on just how much he is 130 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 7: willing to say Okay, we saw it the other days 131 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 7: like spacers like Okay, y'all gonna keep pressing his line well, 132 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 7: the adaptability to be an end game and to also 133 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 7: play the matchup game. It's something that I'm really hoping 134 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 7: for with the next with the next coordinator, because I 135 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 7: just I never understood how it works for coordinators that say, Okay, 136 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 7: well this is what we are, this is what we're 137 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 7: gonna do. I mean, isn't it natural to want someone 138 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 7: that can, you know, roll with the punches and make 139 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 7: changes on the fly. And so I'm looking That's what 140 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 7: I'm looking at with him coming in. 141 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: And dan Quinn had an element of that to him 142 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: as well, which is what made him a successful defensive coordinator. 143 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: But there's nothing that Mike Zimmer has not seen in 144 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: the NFL at this point. I mean he's seen a 145 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: little bit of everything, and there's there's an element to 146 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 3: that when it comes to Zimmer and the fit that 147 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 3: he has here, is there something that he's going to 148 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: immediately say this is the top priority for this defense. 149 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: Because the first year for dan Quinn back in twenty 150 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: twenty one, he came in and said, we. 151 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: Need edge rushers, we need linebacker. 152 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: We went and got Michael Parsons at that twelve spot 153 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: and they gave him that first round pick. 154 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: Do you think there's something similar that could happen with 155 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: Zimmer coming in here? 156 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 6: Again, I don't think it's a Mike Zimmer specific questions, 157 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 6: just whatever they got in the middle of that defense. 158 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be able to address. 159 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 7: Agree right right, But I do I will say, like 160 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 7: when we talk about it is going to be interesting 161 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 7: to see how he handles it because you know, with 162 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 7: the Cowboys this past year, Yeah, you could run up 163 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 7: the middle, but the coverage in the middle of. 164 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 5: The field was a huge problem. 165 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 7: So even when you're addressing things like linebacker, are you 166 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 7: looking for linebackers that are able to drop in coverage 167 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 7: and do more or are you looking for I'm coming 168 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 7: down stopping to run consistently, Like there has to be 169 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 7: a balance. So I do think it's going to play 170 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 7: into some of his decision making as well. 171 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 5: With the linebacker specifically. 172 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: I think if Mike Zimmer and I haven't asked in this, 173 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: but I guarantee in the time that he's been waiting 174 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 4: for this job to materialize, that he sat down and 175 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 4: watched your tape and he has an idea of he 176 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 4: has an idea of you know, coming in here and saying, Okay, 177 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: when he meets with Will about the personnel, the first 178 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: question he's probably going to ask is, what was your 179 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 4: plan with Mazzi Smith? You know, what was what was 180 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 4: your plan with that? Where? Why was it a three 181 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty nine pound one technique now a three 182 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 4: hundred are excuse me, a two hundred ninety three pound three? 183 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: You know, what's your plan there? What was what was 184 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 4: the thinking? And to your point, Nick, he's going to 185 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: look at those linebackers too. He's going to realize though, 186 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 4: and Will's going to probably trying to explain to him 187 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 4: and like, listen, we took a gamble. We placed so 188 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 4: much nickel and dime and we you know, we gambled 189 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 4: on going a little bit light at linebacker. We had 190 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 4: injuries there that killed us. Dan had to play around 191 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: it with you know, with Bell and others. But Mike's like, Okay, 192 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: we're going to get linebackers here, right, and well it's 193 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 4: going to go, yeah, we're going to get linebackers here. 194 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 4: So you know, when you start to talk about Jerry 195 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 4: Jones and all in pushing chips in, I think free 196 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 4: agency and that's for a whole nother show. But uh, 197 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if the Cowboys look at free 198 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: agent linebackers, you know, and look at there, Yeah, and 199 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 4: there are. And that's the thing about it is that 200 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: you if you get a free agent linebacker, one that 201 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: could help you, like what you're talking about, I is 202 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: sure that's got adaptability, flexibility, you know, run past kind 203 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 4: of a guy, then maybe you could go ahead and 204 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: use the draft, which falls right into our neck of 205 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 4: the woods here too. The linebackers that we all like, 206 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 4: you know, maybe okay, free agency they get a guy, now, 207 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 4: we could take our draft show and say, okay, they're 208 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: probably not going to address this early, but here here's 209 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 4: some guys that we might see in that third, fourth 210 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 4: round that we could go after. So there's a there's 211 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 4: a lot of of there's gonna be a lot of 212 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: things that Mike is going to come in and say 213 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 4: he's going to want to do, and it's up to 214 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 4: Will to kind of figure out the direction that they, 215 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 4: you know, with the finances they have, but also the 216 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: draft capital they have as well. 217 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 7: Can I ask question, Okay, I don't know who's going 218 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 7: to break, which room do you think benefits the most 219 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 7: from his edition? 220 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 6: I would say the corners, just because you look at 221 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 6: two all pros or three if you want to throw 222 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 6: in Staman Gilmore if he's able to come back, and 223 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 6: the ability for Trayvon Diggs and to Ron Bland to 224 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 6: still elevate and get better. We haven't seen the peak 225 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 6: from either of those two guys, I don't believe. So 226 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 6: I would say that off off rip as far as 227 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 6: the front seven, you would have to come back to 228 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 6: me here in about two three months. 229 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, that's fair. 230 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 4: I think I think it's I think it's the secondary 231 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 4: that's Mike's area of expertise he's going to I think 232 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 4: the cop out answer is that the whole defense is 233 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: going to benefit because Mike is a get in your 234 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: face type of coach and it's going to be interesting 235 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 4: to see because it's a different way of coaching than 236 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 4: what these players have been receiving here the last three 237 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: years under Dan Quinn. And that's something to me that 238 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: I'm looking to see how that's going to affect some guys. 239 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: I know interviewing Gilmour at the Super Bowl, you know, 240 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 4: and he's hopeful about coming back, and you talk to 241 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 4: people in the organization. We talk to people all the 242 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 4: time in this place, they'd like to have him back. 243 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 4: It's you know, you can't lowball the guy, and you 244 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 4: know they know that. But he's the type of guy 245 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 4: that you know, when you really sit down and visit 246 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: with him, I'm like, damn, this is a sharp guy. Yeah, 247 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: you know, and he cares. I mean you could see 248 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: that he really bothered him, you know. But he's played 249 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 4: on championship teams before. He knows how to do it. 250 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 4: So my overriding thing, I think the defense is a 251 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 4: whole bit. If it's but one specific position, I think 252 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: it's the secondary. 253 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean for me, I think it's just gonna 254 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 7: be the safety room overall. 255 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 5: With the idea that I mean we had. 256 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 7: We interviewed one Ye Thomas on Girls Talk Boys Talking. 257 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 7: He said like I want to be coached hard, like 258 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 7: I'm ready, and he was excited about that. 259 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: He was about to get coached. 260 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 5: But when you look at. 261 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 7: We've talked about the Cowboys scheming, just some of the 262 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 7: things they do, you know, Zim he likes to run 263 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 7: some cover too and do some things like that. He 264 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 7: also too likes to use a robber sometimes. So I'm 265 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 7: excited to see Donovan Wilson do some more things closer 266 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 7: to the line of scrimmage. Again, maybe Marquise Bell do 267 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 7: some things closer to the line of scrimmage. 268 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 5: I do think it's gonna give. 269 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 7: Guys like Malie Cooker the opportunity to continue to show 270 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 7: off that sideline to signline, but maybe give one Ya 271 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 7: Thomas some opportunities to get back there and show off 272 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 7: what he can do in coverage as well. Side by 273 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 7: side with Mallie Cooker. 274 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 6: I'll say this, if if the Cowboys decide that there's 275 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 6: a little bit of flexibility that they feel like they 276 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 6: have in the first round and they want to eventually 277 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 6: get a defensive guy, Tyler Newman would be very fun and. 278 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 4: In Minnesota it's a good player. 279 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: So along those same lines, let's talk about press corners. 280 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 3: Let's talk about guys that fit that mold on the outside. 281 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 3: Because Brian said it a moment ago. When it comes 282 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: to free agency, Dallas likes to fill some spots and 283 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: then allow themselves BPA possibilities to a certain extent in 284 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 3: the NFL draft, So if they go out and let's 285 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: say they fill out linebacker, they fill out defensive tackle, 286 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 3: are there any names either late first round or mid 287 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 3: round picks. In terms of these press corners that you've 288 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: watched so far that impress you. 289 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 6: We could start, we could start up top Coolid mcentstree 290 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 6: is an interesting one out of Alabama, A corner corner talent. 291 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 6: He's been there three years. He's coming out as a junior. 292 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 6: I think when you look at Koloid mcentstry and what 293 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 6: he still has, he's still very raw. He's got that 294 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 6: press man ability. He's gonna jam you have the line, 295 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 6: he's going to give you that physicality. 296 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: It's the best name in the draft. 297 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, he definitely does really violent hands. I think with 298 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 6: what what you're looking for from a Mike Zimmer time 299 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 6: defensive back, this would be one. I've seen him in 300 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 6: mock drafts go anywhere from eight to thirty one, So 301 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 6: I mean he's got a long range of where he 302 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 6: could potentially go. If you're looking at twenty four and 303 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 6: you really like what Cooley mckinsry brings to the table, 304 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 6: that's certainly one you could look at. If you're looking second, 305 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 6: third round. This is the guy I've talked about a 306 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 6: little bit. TJ. Tampa out of Iowa State. In my opinion, 307 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 6: in my opinion, one of the he was the best defender, 308 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 6: a best secondary defender in the Big twelve this past season. 309 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 6: He's got that press man ability, but he's also got 310 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 6: some zone knacks as well. You look at his ball 311 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 6: hawking ability, his ball tracking ability as a defensive back 312 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 6: being able to do that, had a lot of interceptions 313 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 6: this past season. Really liked what he put together at 314 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 6: Iowa State. I was state. They're actually really impressing me 315 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 6: with their defensive back development over the course of the 316 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 6: last couple of years. TJ. Tampa, I think is going 317 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 6: to be a really good example of that. But I 318 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 6: think he sneaks into the top fifty at some point. 319 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 6: That's a guy that I really like out of Iowas. 320 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 4: I should tagg him tag who Tampa? 321 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: TJ Tampa, Oh talk about him? 322 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 4: Oh? 323 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 5: I was like, what is tagging? 324 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 8: No? 325 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 7: I've noticed that the change of direction and his ability 326 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 7: to recover it is just it stands out immediately. He 327 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 7: has a lot of calmness to his play, and that's 328 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 7: what you're looking for for a corner also too, you're 329 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 7: not looking for a guy that panics when the balls 330 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 7: in the air. He's able to Like you mentioned, just 331 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 7: the tracking ability to locate it in the air and 332 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 7: go for it, and the speed and size combo make 333 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 7: it difficult for receivers to get separation on him. I 334 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 7: was I liked his burst as well, and the way 335 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 7: he drives to the ball. He played wide receiver in 336 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 7: high school, and you can see some of that in 337 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 7: his play. 338 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 5: We're starting to see that a lot. 339 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 7: I mean, I know that guys kind of go back 340 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 7: and forth in high school, but I do think it's 341 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 7: hard not to notice that a lot of these gentlemen 342 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 7: that played wide receiver relating to high school, some of 343 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 7: them in college have those ball skills that stand out 344 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 7: as well. No, he's a player, and to your point, 345 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 7: Iowa State is starting to come on with it because 346 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 7: they have to. They look across the pond, and you know, 347 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 7: Iowa got yeah, across the corn. 348 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 5: I know they do have them, and they froze right now. 349 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 5: So go ahead. 350 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: Let's tell you what you both You both got the 351 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 4: player wired. You really really do this guy you talk 352 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 4: about it. There's natural movement and balance to this guy's game. 353 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 4: I mean, he does a really nice job of reading 354 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 4: the quarterback and then playing the route, and he gets 355 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: his hands on a lot of passes, the tracking of 356 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 4: the ball. The size gives him an advantage here when 357 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: he comes to carrying routes. The foot speed, the link 358 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 4: to stay connected the receiver, the fluid change of direction. 359 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 4: He loves the challenge you can tell of defending routes, 360 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: he really really does. And the tackling part. He's got 361 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: some wrap up to him, but he's also got some 362 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 4: of that blockdown where he throws his body at the 363 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 4: ball career and kind of tries to chop him down. 364 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Maybe he needs to 365 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 4: wrap up a little bit. But his length makes him 366 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 4: an ideal corner in this league. I'm glad you guys 367 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 4: brought his name up. 368 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 9: Yeah. 369 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, speaking of length, If you're looking for later round 370 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 6: to press corners that you think could work on this team, 371 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 6: look at Road Torrents out of Arizona State. He was 372 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 6: a Shrine Bowl guy, six foot three, two hundred pounds, 373 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 6: so he's a big dude. But he was playing boundary 374 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 6: corner for Arizona State. He jams him off the line, 375 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 6: that's physical. 376 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: In these practices he was at one on ones. Yeah, 377 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: he was absolutely beating people at the line. Physical guy. 378 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 6: The only downside is that's probably all you have with 379 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 6: Roe Torrns as of now, still really raw and really 380 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 6: physical and just throwing his weight around in different directions. 381 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 6: He's technical with his weight, but it's there's a lot 382 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 6: of corner work that you would need to do with him. 383 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 3: There's a similar probably a higher level prospect, but the 384 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: similar scouting report. Raw athleticism, physicality, played a lot of 385 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 3: zone in college, but he could make maybe make the 386 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 3: switch and be a good press man corner. What do 387 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: you think about Quinnon Mitchell corner from Toledo? Do you 388 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: think he can maybe fit that mold a little bit too? 389 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm okay with Quinnon Mitchell being asked to do anything. 390 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 391 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 6: Sure, I'm at a senior bowl. I'm okay with him 392 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 6: being the first corner off the board. Would be shocked 393 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 6: if he's further than the third corner off the board. 394 00:17:59,520 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 4: Wow. 395 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 6: I love what Quaneon Mitchell brings to the table. He's 396 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 6: not this like overwhelming guy that you look at with size. 397 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 3: It's like, gosh, he's a It's more tenacity than it 398 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 3: is physicality. 399 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 6: It's more technician. He is a technician. I had a 400 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 6: dB trainer who's training some guys here in Frisco. Ask 401 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 6: me what was so good about Quaneon Mitchell and Mobile? 402 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 6: Why is he catching the attention of all these scouts? 403 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 6: Why was that so big for him? I was like, 404 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 6: there's no one technique thing that he does where you're like, 405 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 6: I wish you would do that a little bit different. 406 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 6: He is a technician, yeah, pure book. I is a 407 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 6: textbook type type guy. And when you see what he's 408 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 6: done at Toledo, how he's been able to stack really 409 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 6: good performances as well being able to go up against 410 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 6: really good talent. They play good talent up there in 411 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 6: the MAC. I love Quanion Mitchell. I'd be okay with 412 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 6: him being asked to do anything. 413 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 4: How do you think he runs nick? 414 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 6: That's I probably. 415 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 4: I know that's a tough question because hopefully he'll train 416 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 4: be four or five. Yeah, when you watch the tape, 417 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 4: it does look like a guy. I mean, he's he's 418 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 4: he's the measurements I'm working off is six foot one 419 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 4: ninety six I think is right whereabout he's as a player. 420 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 4: That was the biggest question I had about him. You 421 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: could watch the Northern Illinois game and he gets four 422 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 4: interceptions in the game. I mean a couple of picks, 423 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 4: sixes and stuff like that. He looks taller on tape 424 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 4: to me than the six foot He's got some long 425 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: features to his body. I love the way he tacks 426 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: the ball. I love the reaction skills. I just one 427 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: note I put on my I said, we'll be interested 428 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: to see what his forty yard dash time will be. 429 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: I've got a note on that real quick. Bruce Feldman 430 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: from the Freaks List. He puts out his Freaks List. 431 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 3: Den Brulers mentioned it a couple. 432 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: Times throughout the Beast. 433 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: He was a part of it, and he said he 434 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: benched two hundred and twenty five pounds twenty one times right. 435 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: He said, he squatted forty four times right, and he 436 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 3: hit a top speed of twenty three point five miles 437 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 3: an hour. He said, it's forty times. He ran in 438 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 3: the four threes twice for NFL scouts. 439 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 4: Okay, well, if that's the case, then you know that 440 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 4: would be great. 441 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's and of course this is surprising, 442 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: just a report. We haven't seen Combine numbers or anything yet. 443 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: That's the official, but just based off of Bruce Feldman, 444 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: which is a trusted source. 445 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, he he's got he's got some mirror mirroring skills, 446 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 4: and I I thought he was a little bit more 447 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 4: straight lined in the way he played. You know, I 448 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 4: bet the tight coverage is there, the sticky coverage is 449 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 4: there for the player. Uh. Yeah, he's a guy that 450 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: that that senior bulk clearly helped him get get on 451 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 4: the radar even further than what he was at Toledo. 452 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 6: Talking about being inside of a hip pocket. He does. 453 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 6: And he's then he's got the ball tracking seals in 454 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 6: the back end for deep browns. 455 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 9: Yeah. 456 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: The Cowboys love their their Toledo defensive backs they had, 457 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: but we got one in the building here, Tod Barry 458 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 3: Church that does a great job. 459 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 7: I have. 460 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 5: I think this gentleman completed a nickel. Yeah, Jerry and 461 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 5: Jones f s. 462 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: U Jerry Jones, Jerry and Jerry and. 463 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 7: Jones Jerry And I think that's how you pronounce his name. 464 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 7: I want to get it right. I was you're talking 465 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 7: about jamming at the line like he jams went intent. Yeah, 466 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 7: it's not just for decoration. He's trying to redirect a receiver. 467 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 7: He has a lot of flexibility in his lower half 468 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 7: that allows him to stop and change direction quickly and 469 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 7: stay in front of and stay in front of receivers. 470 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 7: He plays with a lot of discipline and poise, y'all. 471 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 7: And also to the zone awareness is there we talk 472 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 7: about the track and ability, he has that as well. 473 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 7: I think he plays that line very well of being 474 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 7: aggressive but also being disciplined, and that's something that you 475 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 7: look for in players because when you look at him, 476 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 7: see how much he's Jimmy, You see how much he 477 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 7: likes to be involved in man, you sometimes wonder, Okay, 478 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 7: is this guy going to get penalized in the future 479 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 7: and things like that. Now you can see a whole 480 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 7: bunch of that from his game. He's physical, He's very active. 481 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 7: He's not afraid to tackle and run support, which is 482 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 7: something that I think Zim. 483 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 4: Will look for as Wellely. 484 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 7: And he's also been very durable and again important as well. 485 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 7: He hasn't played less than eight games his whole college career, 486 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 7: so he's played most of all his games, even his 487 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 7: I think it was his freshman year played eight games 488 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 7: to start. So I'm looking at the player. I like 489 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 7: what he's able to do. And so when you look 490 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 7: at it, when you look at Okay, what is Zimmer 491 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 7: Zim maybe looking for. This is a guy that can't 492 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 7: play on the outside, but I do think he can 493 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 7: do some nickel things and we know how important that 494 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 7: is in this league now. 495 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 6: So you talked about getting a corner that Zimmer could 496 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 6: improve with run support. You look at Treyvon Dicks and 497 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 6: what he's so I think one of the bigger negatives 498 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 6: you could take from his first couple of years in 499 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 6: the league or first few years in the league is 500 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 6: how he's able to defend the run and being physical 501 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 6: in that sense, I think there's an opportunity for Mike 502 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 6: Zimmer to come in and be able to develop that. 503 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 6: We're talking about how he can develop certain areas. I 504 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 6: think that's certainly one. When you look at the corner 505 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 6: room as well, and you had mentioned that I wanted 506 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 6: to throw. 507 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: That, Brian. 508 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 3: You were talking about instincts too, and he seemingly has 509 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 3: those instincts that you can bring to the NFL level 510 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: and say I trust you early, which is what Zimmer 511 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 3: wants to do. 512 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 4: Absolutely. Did anybody look, you know to my Florida state, 513 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: do youboy look at the other corner? Ronardo Green? 514 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, he was also a trim both both of 515 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 6: those guys. 516 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I heard that. 517 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, did we talk about him before? 518 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: I don't think so. If you want to bring him up. 519 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, the thing about him is with me, to this guy, 520 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 4: I was like, I saw a very physical, competitive, aggressive player, 521 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 4: and I didn't think he was the type of player 522 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 4: that was afraid to play you tight. He's going to 523 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 4: compete for every ball that comes his direction. He could 524 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 4: be a little grabby at times and drape his arm 525 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 4: across the back of the receiver, you know when they 526 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 4: run those insider outs. I would not say he's the 527 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 4: most fluid moving player when it comes to the movement, 528 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 4: but he when he gets his hands on his receiver, 529 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 4: it's really hard for them to get away from him 530 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: because he's got the ability to mirror when it's called 531 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 4: for the recovery and his footwork. I feel he's a 532 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 4: better man player than Zone. So I kind of brought 533 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 4: him back in my mind because of thinking of guy's 534 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 4: six foot one hundred and eighty six pounds. You know, 535 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: he's going to be one of those guys that has 536 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 4: a feel for how to play, how to use the 537 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 4: sideline to push this guy out when you know, in 538 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 4: the air, so smart, competitive, complete and assignments. You know, 539 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 4: when I started thinking again, zim type of guy. Maybe 540 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 4: that Ronaldo Green Florida State might be a guy that 541 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 4: will catch their attention. 542 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 7: Kim Hart, cornerback Notre Dame, had a good had a 543 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 7: good Senior Bowl showing man. Listen, if you got a 544 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 7: lot of waste of movement in your game as a receiver, 545 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 7: he's gonna make you pay. Yeah, because you're just doing 546 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 7: stuff for decoration with him. Because he's crazy, technically sound 547 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 7: to be as young as he is, he's hard to fool. 548 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 7: He mirrors well like we talked about, he's physical, impressed, 549 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 7: and at the top of the route. So he is 550 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 7: able to drive guys out to the outside. Now I 551 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 7: will say that he comes up in tackles. I think 552 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 7: I do prefer him on the outside though, as opposed 553 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 7: to you know, working in it, because he understands how 554 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 7: to use the boundary to his benefit and kind of 555 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 7: work guys over to the side. So he stood out 556 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 7: to me during the Senior Bowl. Nick, were you able 557 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 7: to see him and see some of the things he 558 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 7: was able to do. 559 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 6: Former receiver as well? Yeah, So yeah, there's there's definitely 560 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 6: those abilities. I like his press man ability with talking 561 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 6: about it here, but yeah, at Senior Bowl he backed 562 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 6: all that up for sure. 563 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: Where would you put him? Is he like an early 564 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 3: day three, late day two kind of guy? 565 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 566 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 6: I think firmly day two I think yeah, yeah. 567 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 7: Especially when he did the Senior Bowl because he was 568 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 7: I mean, he went up against some of these dogs 569 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 7: out there and they weren't able to get separation from him. 570 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 5: I thought he was impressive. I'm look, I'm jealous. You 571 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 5: got to see him? How close. 572 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 4: You speaking of Iowa, where does this Cooper de Jene? 573 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 4: Where does he fall in? 574 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 5: Lord have Mercy? 575 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a fascinating one. 576 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 7: I know. 577 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 6: We talked about him a little bit last week as 578 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 6: far as Okay, yeah, his secondary versatility, I think yeah. 579 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 6: I think he's going to be an interesting one overall 580 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 6: in this process because you see him go as high again, 581 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 6: it's kind of a kool aid. Yeah, that's where That's 582 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 6: what I'm saying teen. Yeah, and then you can see 583 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 6: him late second round. Yeah, Combine is gonna be huge 584 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 6: for him. 585 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. I was kind of like, I kind of feel 586 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 4: like he's a right place at the right time prospect, 587 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 4: you know, where like it's like he seems to be 588 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 4: the ball kind of gets knocked in the air and 589 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 4: he's standing there or you know, And I just think 590 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 4: he's got good instincts. I think he's got the awareness 591 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 4: to make it plays. I think he does a good 592 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 4: job as a tackler too. You know, here's where you 593 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 4: always kind of feel like that maybe he could play 594 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 4: another position or two. And you know, but I mean 595 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 4: the scheme kind of requires him to play sideways. You know, 596 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: you really don't get a feel for how he really pedals, 597 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 4: and you know, because they're funneling everything into the middle 598 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: of the field. And but man, he's he's a pretty 599 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: impressive play Guy's a really good punt returner too, is 600 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 4: one of the better ones I've seen. So, man, I 601 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 4: was just curious to where you guys had him. But 602 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 4: you're right, because the mock some of the mocks have 603 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 4: him like super high, and then others have him like, 604 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 4: you know, like you said in the second round, I. 605 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: Think I think he's a top twenty player. 606 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 4: I do. 607 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: I when I look at him, I look of I 608 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: look at a lesser polished Christian Gonzales from Oregon last year, 609 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: very similar skill set in the way that they've got 610 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 3: Lean they've got I really like Gonzalez was a better player. 611 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: I would have Gonzalez as a top ten prospect, but 612 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 3: I don't think Degene is that far off. 613 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: I don't think he's that far off as a player. 614 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 3: So if you're looking at a corner, like you said, 615 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 3: a lot of it is is is subjective. It is 616 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: what you like as a defense, it's what you like 617 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 3: as a scheme. He's going to fit a lot of 618 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 3: those areas. So I think he's going to go top twenty, 619 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: top twenty five, something like that. 620 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and then the Iowa pedigree. It matters 621 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 5: at this point. It just does, you know, because you 622 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 5: guys come in. 623 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 7: You're like, Oh, he's going to be fundamentally sound, He's 624 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 7: going to have his things together. 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Back here on the 680 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: Draft Show, presented by Miller Light, a taste you can 681 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: depend on. We've got Nick Harris, Brian Bradis, Aisha Morrison, 682 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeomans, and Chris 683 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: Beam's about to hit that sounder button because it's time for. 684 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: Some twitter on the Twitter. Darn right, it is all right. 685 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: Matthew asked Gabe Hall how to Baylor Can he play 686 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: one technique in Zimmer's system? Of course, you're talking about 687 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: improving the size, improving the spine of that defense. 688 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: Can Gabe Haul do something like that? 689 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? 690 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 6: So I think first we need to talk about Gabe 691 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 6: Hall a little bit more, six foot six pushing three 692 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 6: hundred pounds, so a tall, tall, tall, tall guy there 693 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 6: in the middle. He was somebody that overwhelmed everybody physically 694 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 6: at the. 695 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: Big twelve in these like just yeah, man handled mountains, and. 696 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 6: That's something I want to talk about. It's it's kind 697 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 6: of a trend that we're seeing from the high school 698 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 6: to college ranks too. And you see this big, tall 699 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 6: guy here in the interior for those for the audio only, 700 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 6: we got Gabe Hall here on film. But he's physical, 701 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 6: He's able to get off the line quick. I like 702 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 6: him more as a three tech. I'm not a huge 703 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 6: fan of bringing him in as a one because if 704 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 6: you're bringing him in as a one, you're gonna have 705 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 6: to put weight on him. That is a fact. You're 706 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 6: gonna have to put at least thirty thirty five pounds. 707 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 6: I want to keep him at the weight that he's 708 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 6: at right now, wherever team he goes, put him at 709 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 6: three tech and let him operate with a little bit 710 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 6: more fluidity and a little bit more athleticism. I think 711 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 6: that'll help him in his game long term. But man, 712 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 6: once he once he's able to shut his block, he's 713 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 6: able to create some violent things in the backfield. I 714 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 6: like gay Paul. 715 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. You see a guy that's sixty 716 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 4: six and wearing number ninety five, who do you think 717 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 4: of David Irving. Okay, remember David Irban. We couldn't figure out, 718 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 4: like is he where is he? 719 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 5: He ahead of his time? 720 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, he was. He was definitely the Beatles, you know, 721 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 4: I mean he was. He was. It's so funny because 722 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna spe fishing one day at my lake and 723 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 4: someone's gass me, who's the best player you ever saw? 724 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 4: That just kind of just kind of went by the wayside, 725 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 4: and David Irban is going to be my guy because 726 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 4: he could play like eighteen plays and have six tackles 727 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 4: in those eighteen plays and force the fumble. But yeah, 728 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 4: here's a guy, like you said, you know, probably a 729 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 4: little bit more of that three technique look than playing inside. 730 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 4: But man, I'll tell you what, that length is pretty 731 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: impressive with the way that he's kind of been able 732 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 4: to get rid of those blockers and then get over 733 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 4: to that football. 734 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 6: Do you guys remember Jerry Tillery in the twenty nineteen 735 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 6: draft was a first round pick for the Raiders. Yeah, 736 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 6: it's similar vibes here as far as the length and 737 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 6: what he's able to do with it. Tillary he had 738 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 6: a couple of really good years in Vegas, but kind 739 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 6: of phased out after that. I think he's with the 740 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 6: Chargers now, but with Gabe Haul, I really like what 741 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 6: he brings as a three tech type of defensive lineman. 742 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 6: You look at the size that he has got some 743 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 6: quick Yeah, he's got that explosiveness off the line. Can 744 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 6: he line up over center as you see right here? Yeah, yes, absolutely, 745 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 6: But I want him to be able to focus on 746 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 6: a three tech type situation. 747 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: As a Waco, Texas native. 748 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: Myself, my opinion, I say he was the best player 749 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: other than Ika on that defense for Dave Randa and 750 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: the Baylor Bears. But I want to ask the Baylor 751 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 3: Bear himself, Chris Beam in the back, what did you 752 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: think whenever you were watching him play this year? If 753 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 3: he's able to do it, he may be running running technical. 754 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 6: Season is not Waco. 755 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: He was a guy I was born in Waco. Come 756 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: on now, he definitely flashed. But I mean Baylor was 757 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: terrible this year. 758 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 4: Let's be honest with you. 759 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah that's said like a true Baylor Bear. Love it 760 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: all right. 761 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 3: Next question coming up, if you could have a Micah 762 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: like rookie season from one player in this draft class, 763 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: what position would you want it to be in? And 764 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: what and why Calvin asked that question, run that back. 765 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 3: If you wanted a Micah like rookie season, just an 766 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 3: explosive rookie season from one player in this draft class, 767 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: what position would you want that player to play? 768 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 6: Wow, that's a that's an interesting one. Does offensive line count? 769 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 4: Sure? 770 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 6: The offensive line? 771 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I mean you'd love you'd love for that 772 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 4: somebody who plays center come in here and coming in 773 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 4: all bro and be an all Pro right off the Yeah. 774 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 4: I think linebackers another position too. You know, I know 775 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 4: that a lot of people are are kind of throwing 776 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 4: these different linebackers. Eisch and I were walking in we 777 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 4: were talking about Colson from from Michigan, and every time, 778 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 4: you know, you talk about somebody from Michigan, everybody kind 779 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 4: of just turns the radio for sure. But you know, yeah, 780 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 4: if you could give me a center, a linebacker, I 781 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 4: would absolutely or an offense, uh I say, maybe a tackle. 782 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't you don't know what's gonna happen 783 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 4: with with Tyron Smith in that situation, or we'll see 784 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 4: what happens with the the you know, the guys that 785 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 4: are currently on the roster. But man, if you're going 786 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 4: to if you're going to give me one, give me 787 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 4: a center that they play at a very very high level. 788 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, we're talking Michael rookie year. Uh, we were surprised. 789 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 5: It was like, surprise he could play d N. Oh yeah, listen, honey, 790 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 5: I would love a surprise. 791 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 7: Oh he could really play running back and we can 792 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 7: run the ball. 793 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 5: And again it's not it's. 794 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: Not you want an Ezekiel Elliott type rookie. 795 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, no, I mean Micah's Micah's rookie year was 796 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 7: when when you mentioned his rookie year, I look at 797 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 7: it more of the surprise of. 798 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 5: Him being able to have that flex at d N. 799 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 7: So for me, I'm like, Okay, if you have a 800 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 7: running back that comes in here, maybe they can add 801 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 7: something different to your even if it's even if it's 802 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 7: like a third down guy or a guy that can 803 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 7: like I want to see if there's a gentleman that 804 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 7: can come in here and affect the run game, because 805 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 7: I think that's going to be important moving forward for 806 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 7: this team. 807 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 6: So you look what young fresh legs did for Detroit 808 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 6: and what they were talk. 809 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 5: About in the balance they had, right. 810 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 6: So maybe last couple of years. 811 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe you're not picking super high, like like you 812 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 7: just mentioned Kansas City with Pacheco. Like, maybe you're not 813 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 7: picking super duper high for running back. But if you 814 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 7: can have a guy that comes in here and he's 815 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 7: a surprise or he's a good addition to what you 816 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 7: do offensively, I think that means you're moving in the 817 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 7: right direction as an offense, because you need to be 818 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 7: able to. 819 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 5: Talk the rock. 820 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 3: Matt asked kind of along the same questions as you 821 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 3: were alluding to with Micah. Are there any players that 822 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 3: could add be asked to switch positions based. 823 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 2: Off of where they're going. 824 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 3: We talked about position flex a couple of shows last week, 825 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 3: but I'll start with you, Brian. Anybody on your list 826 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: so far that you can see, hey, maybe they'll end 827 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 3: up switching positions moving forward, that's I haven't. 828 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,959 Speaker 4: I haven't thought about it that way. You have one. 829 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 4: I think so because I was talking about the I 830 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 4: was talking about the that the Iowa corner, you know, 831 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 4: or I thought he might be a safety safety To 832 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 4: be honest with you, I thought that might be a 833 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 4: better you know, with the with the ball skills and 834 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 4: the range and his tackling ability. I kind of thought 835 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 4: that maybe that But I haven't really thought about. 836 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 6: He was a safety prospect. Yeah, Iowa converted. 837 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 4: I mean, there's there's these offensive linemen there. You know, 838 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 4: we we've kind of we've kind of talked about a 839 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 4: Graham Barton, you know, is that I mean that's a 840 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 4: guy's played tackle guard. You know, he was a left 841 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 4: tackle at at Duke. You know, is that a guy 842 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 4: that's now you know? Would that guy be your center? 843 00:36:59,440 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 11: Uh? 844 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 4: You know, I think that we kind of agree that 845 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 4: would be a direction that we would would go for there. 846 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 4: But that's really the only guys that I was kind 847 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 4: of thinking about right now. 848 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 5: That was a good question that I felt like. 849 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 7: Nick asked a lot of the gentlemen at the Shrine Bowl, 850 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 7: was you know. 851 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 5: If you could switch? Do you think you could? 852 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 7: And a lot of the guys said, you know, because 853 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 7: it's just kind of what happens sometimes in. 854 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 5: This league especially. 855 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 7: He asked a lot of the corner players if they're 856 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 7: going to but when you talk about somebody. 857 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 5: I think that somebody might. 858 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 7: Look at as a safety. He was recruited as a safety. 859 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 7: Tyryon Arnold cornerback out of Alabama. Yeah, six foot one, 860 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 7: ninety six. I feel like people could look at his 861 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 7: ranginess and how long he is and things like that. 862 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 5: And see maybe they see a safety or. 863 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 4: Like a Brian Branch right back to safety. 864 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 11: Yeah. 865 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: I mean he has had a great rookie year two. 866 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, he has. 867 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 7: It's his own discipline and balance and patience. 868 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 5: That I think allows will allow him to do that. 869 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 7: But he also can and go from hash to hash 870 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 7: and move move people out the way. He's he has 871 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 7: a really strong recovery speed and he's good and impressed 872 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 7: as well. So maybe tyry On Arnold is someone and 873 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 7: maybe people look at it at safety. 874 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 4: I did. That's that's actually a really good one I 875 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 4: looked at I was looking at my linebackers and I 876 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 4: was thinking, has anybody studied Kaylen DeLoach from Florida State. 877 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 4: Kaylen DeLoach is six ' one, He's two hundred and 878 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 4: fifteen pounds. Where's number four at Florida State. And he's 879 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 4: a guy that's a linebacker at Florida State. And I 880 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 4: wonder at six one two point fifteen if they're going 881 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 4: to have to move him as a safety or a 882 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 4: sub package player. This guy gets after the ball, you know. 883 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 4: And I was just I mean, we need to see 884 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 4: because at six one two fifteen, how about Beamer having 885 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 4: some highlights where you're right here. But this kid's a 886 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 4: hell of a player. And but again, that size is 887 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 4: will be a problem playing as a linebacker. But man, 888 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 4: when you study him play. This is against Boston College 889 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 4: right here, I mean, he's more than willing to step 890 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 4: up and make tackles, make plays. But I just don't know. 891 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 4: Could it be very much like what we deal with 892 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 4: with Bell here, you know, because of the size and 893 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 4: stuff like that. But he might be that guy that is, 894 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 4: like I said, strong safety down in the box, sub 895 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 4: player that you can you could put him in some 896 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 4: in coverage because you watch him play. He plays really 897 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 4: really well in space too, So maybe you have some 898 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 4: heares on the outside here I'm beam coming up with 899 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 4: these great highlights for you. But yeah, on the blitz 900 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 4: right here, look at the clothes right there. Look at 901 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 4: that first Yeah, yeah, that's against Clemson. So there you 902 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 4: go create and turnovers, getting the ball and then a 903 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 4: little scoop and score action there for the seminoles. 904 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 6: I hate to see that. Oh my god, Kate club Nick, 905 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,760 Speaker 6: But yeah. 906 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 7: Nick, are you is Javon Bullert from Georgia, A safety 907 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 7: or a corner. 908 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 6: I like him more as a safety. I want to 909 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 6: keep him where he's at. He's he does have that 910 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 6: corner type ability though, and they stepped him up at Nickel. 911 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 5: As many times this past season while I was asked. 912 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 6: But I I think with his range, with his ability 913 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 6: to kind of be able to cover that from the 914 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 6: defensive backfield, have everything in front of him, That's what 915 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 6: I would want. And you know, I've questioned what his 916 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 6: speed will look like at the combine a couple of 917 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 6: times on the show. With that in mind, I'd like 918 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 6: to keep him in safety. 919 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 4: Has anybody's seen Kaylen speaking of bullet Kaylan Bullock from 920 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 4: USC Yeah, have you seen Okay, he's sixty three, he's 921 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 4: one hundred and ninety pounds, you know, and he plays 922 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 4: as a free safety. I maybe, I mean, he makes 923 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 4: a lot of plays with the ball in the air, 924 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 4: and so I was kind of wondering, maybe, you know, 925 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 4: here's a corner sat I'm trying of trying to find 926 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 4: that again that Brian Branch trying kind of player, the 927 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 4: guy that can play safety but can also potentially play 928 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 4: in the slot and cover and blitz and do some things. 929 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 4: So there's guys just because of some of the heightened 930 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 4: height and weight. But Kaylan Bullock, he's like say sixty 931 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 4: three one ninety, he wears number seven at USC might 932 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 4: be a guy that you want to take care because 933 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 4: my final note on him was his covered skills are 934 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 4: what are going to get him drafted in the league, 935 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 4: along with his ability to read routes. So I wonder 936 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 4: if he's a safety that's probably should be playing corner 937 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 4: or should be playing more as a nickel. 938 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, next question, This one comes from JP. 939 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 3: He says, thoughts on Xavier Leget out of South Carolina, 940 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 3: the wide receiver, big playability, Where would you have to 941 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 3: draft him, and how could he fit into your offense 942 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 3: if you wanted to attack wide receiver. 943 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's an interesting one. He's one that I spent 944 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 6: a lot of time watching at Senior Bowl. First day. 945 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 6: He had a very, very rough day. I think if 946 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 6: you're looking at one of the bigger followers from the 947 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 6: Senior Bowl, you're looking at Xavier leg But I'm not 948 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 6: out on him what he was able to do at 949 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 6: South Carolina this past season. He's a big play guy 950 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 6: that you can get the ball in space to, and 951 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 6: he will take off, He'll go and he'll be able 952 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 6: to do it. I compare him Cordero Patterson in that 953 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 6: same sense because he can also work some things out 954 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 6: of the backfield with his build. I think there's a 955 00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 6: lot of different things you can do in an off 956 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 6: with Xavier Lagette, and it makes him an intriguing type 957 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,439 Speaker 6: of weapon. What I put in my notes here after 958 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 6: Senior Bowl, struggled at Senior Bowl and soul stock Fall 959 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 6: with the long, speed and physicality still make him a 960 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 6: legit offensive weapon out of the backfield and in the 961 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 6: receiving game. So I like Lagette. I think it's he 962 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 6: probably slipped to late the late third round. He's probably 963 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 6: a late day two option now. But if you're looking 964 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 6: for a big, beefy receiver that you want to bring 965 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 6: in and has some versatility with six foot one, two 966 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 6: hundred and twenty three pounds, that's a guy you can have. 967 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, physical at the catch point and he's he's very 968 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 7: physical through his routes as well. The concentration is there, 969 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 7: you know, the way he fights do trash. But yeah, 970 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 7: when you mentioned the separation and some of that stuff, 971 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 7: maybe that's something that. 972 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 5: Gives people pause. 973 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 7: But I think, I know, I know that Rashid Rice 974 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 7: isn't as big as him. But we've been there, done 975 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 7: that with thinking that guys just because they don't separate 976 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 7: a whole much, they can't play the game. 977 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 5: Found out already. 978 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 4: He just wanted to how was he run after catch? Yeah? 979 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 6: I love it? 980 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 981 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 4: Does he does he have any traits like what Deebo 982 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 4: Samuel does. Yeah, it's better than remember South Carolina. 983 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 5: It's really just like he's just I mean, can you. 984 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 4: Hand him the ball? Can you move him around? 985 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 9: You think? 986 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the temperament. Yeah, he has the temperament to 987 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 7: do those things. He's the temperament he I put down, 988 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 7: he's that's my ball. 989 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 5: That's that's that's the type of player he is. 990 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 7: But but to your point, it's not like you're not 991 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 7: gonna get super. 992 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 5: Sharp route running and stuff from him consistently. 993 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 7: But if you get the ball in his hands, yeah, 994 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 7: he's gonna make something happen. 995 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 6: He's got the Dbo thighs too. 996 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 4: When you say that's six, I haven't seen the player. 997 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 4: But when you say six to one and you say 998 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 4: two twenty three, you know, I start to think of 999 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 4: you know, running back kind of build. Yep, you know. 1000 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 4: But if if run after catch and all that's really good, 1001 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,959 Speaker 4: maybe maybe you have a similar type player that someone 1002 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 4: will find ways to use him in the backfield as well. 1003 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 6: There's a play on his film. I forget who they're playing, 1004 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 6: but they're they're lining up twenty five yard lines starting 1005 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 6: a drive and it's just a simple crosser over the 1006 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 6: middle and he explodes out of there. It's up quick 1007 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 6: and he's gone long. Speed is incredible. I think he's 1008 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 6: a weapon that you can definitely use in a lot 1009 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 6: of different ways at the next level. 1010 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 2: There you go, all right, along with Xavier Leget. 1011 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 3: I've got a couple names I want to hit when 1012 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,280 Speaker 3: we come back, and it's based off of a tweet 1013 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 3: from our very own Nick Harris. We're gonna talk about 1014 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 3: that here in a couple of moments when we come 1015 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 3: back with more of the draft show right after this. 1016 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 12: Hi Drew Pearson, former Dallas Cowboy and now Pro Football 1017 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 12: Hall of Famer. 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So 1071 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 3: on was this Friday? I think it was Friday ish, 1072 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 3: Thursday or Friday. Nick asked for some NFL Draft questions. 1073 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 3: He wanted to answer some questions on Twitter. Joseph Hoyt 1074 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 3: out of Texas Lone Star Life says, give a position 1075 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 3: in player comp for every member of the draft show 1076 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 3: oh my god. And Nick Harris responded and he provided 1077 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 3: a position in player comp for every person in. 1078 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 6: The draft with a little trade with a little bit 1079 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 6: of why he. 1080 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 2: Thought that was the case. So we're gonna start things 1081 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 2: off with Chris Beam in the back, he said. 1082 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 3: Isaiah Davis, running back out of South Dakota State said, 1083 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 3: don't forget about the FCS slash producers. 1084 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 2: Why did that one work out for you? 1085 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, Beam's got the Isaiah Davis film ready to go. 1086 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 6: Look at these long legs from Isaiah Davis. This is 1087 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 6: a guy who's had fourteen hundred plus yards and each 1088 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 6: of the last two seasons a really productive runner for 1089 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 6: the back to back national champions. You look at what 1090 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 6: they were able to do offensively, it ran straight through 1091 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 6: Isaiah Davis. This is a guy that will perform at 1092 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 6: the next level. He will be a running back on 1093 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 6: a team next year that you will want to pick 1094 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 6: up on your fantasy team. Type of guy. I mean, 1095 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 6: this is I really like Isaiah Davis. This is a 1096 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 6: sneaker running back that you can get in the fourth round, fourth, 1097 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 6: fifth round, and he'll have production of the day he 1098 00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 6: steps on. 1099 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 4: A He's very high cut, as we'd say in the 1100 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 4: scouting world, long legs, short up your body. 1101 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, very high legs, long legs. 1102 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 2: He got an invite to the Senior Bowl. 1103 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 6: Right shrine. Gosh, I don't remember mix. 1104 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,280 Speaker 2: He was in one of the All Star Games. 1105 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 3: There was a lot of jack rabbits in Frisco, so 1106 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,839 Speaker 3: I just kind of relied on that. 1107 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, he's he's fun. And that was Chris Beams 1108 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,280 Speaker 2: comp physical. 1109 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 4: Wow being just ran over, just ran over the guy. 1110 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 4: The dot com guy at the Buccaneers. 1111 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, easy money. 1112 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 3: Uh, I can't wait for Draft Day and we're gonna 1113 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,919 Speaker 3: take all these comps and we're gonna say, up, Beam 1114 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 3: just went off the board. 1115 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 2: He should just went off the board. 1116 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 3: Let's talk about aisha cornerback Chris Abrams, drain, scrappy and 1117 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 3: assertive was the. 1118 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 2: Reason why Nick Harris gave that comp. You guys have 1119 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 2: talked about him a little bit out of Missouri. 1120 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 6: Right, Yeah. Absolutely, he's he's gonna he's gonna come on 1121 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 6: the field and you're not gonna think that he's the 1122 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 6: most imposing corner in the world. That he's gonna make 1123 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 6: you feel you and he's he's really strong. I really 1124 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 6: like what he does in coverage. I gave him a 1125 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 6: lot of flak early in this draft show. Now I 1126 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 6: saw him at Senior Bowl, and I understood his abilities 1127 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 6: a little bit more. No, no, no, come on. When 1128 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 6: I understood his abilities a little bit more, I kind 1129 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 6: of fell in love with the prospect a little bit more. 1130 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 6: I still think he's I teeter with late Day two, 1131 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 6: early Day three with him, just because I think there's 1132 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 6: a lot that he'll give up in big play opportunities. 1133 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 6: But I love Chris Abram strain from a scrappiness stand, 1134 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 6: I think it's perfect. 1135 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 4: I think you got her. I think you got her nailed. 1136 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 11: Here. 1137 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 7: We talked about and what they're doing there putting together 1138 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 7: a good program. 1139 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 4: Here's here it is, Aysha yet a nice low back pedal, 1140 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 4: powerful hands, disrept receivers early in her out. Please can 1141 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 4: get under and turn it run in press coverage. Gotta 1142 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 4: love this could flip the hips, run down, feel quick, 1143 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:53,320 Speaker 4: surprisingly powerful, it has explosive is an explosive athlete. Ability 1144 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 4: to break on the ball close. The close is phenomenal 1145 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 4: on this guy and at rare ball skills. He puts 1146 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 4: himself in position to make plays on the ball. He 1147 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 4: finds it. He plays with awareness. There's instincts when Facian 1148 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 4: when he has action in zone coverage and stuff like that, 1149 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,359 Speaker 4: and he's not afraid to tackle. I mean he does 1150 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 4: in a variety of ways. The way this guy plays. 1151 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 6: So do you worry about the big play? Giving up 1152 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 6: the big play? It's not that he knew at Missouri 1153 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 6: necessarily so much. It's his his traits and what he 1154 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 6: does instincts. I would say, yeah, it's instincts that allow it. 1155 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 6: At the NFL level that I think could not translate. Well, yeah, 1156 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 6: he doesn't flip those hips as fluidly as I would 1157 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:28,359 Speaker 6: love him. 1158 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that to me, like they say, there 1159 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 4: you're if you watch the LSU game, because they l 1160 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 4: it was a man. LSU did a nice job of 1161 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 4: throwing the ball that game, and that was It was 1162 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 4: a little bit of a little bit of prompt. I 1163 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 4: think because some of the things you're talk about. I 1164 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 4: think it's just maybe a size because he's not the 1165 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 4: biggest guy weight wise. It's like one hundred and seventy 1166 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 4: eight pound guy you're doing with one of those Yeah. 1167 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, So so you really went deep into this. 1168 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 6: Comp like I gave these like five minutes of fun whatever. 1169 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see Cooper BB, guard out of Kansas State, 1170 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 3: said that's the man, and he comped that to Zach 1171 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 3: Woldchuck said, Zach Woldchuck is Cooper BB's. 1172 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 6: The man, and also Zach loves Cooper. 1173 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 2: So that was Yeah, that was a good one. 1174 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 6: That was the easiest one to throw it. It was perfect. 1175 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 3: And we talked a lot about Cooper BB in one 1176 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 3: of the previous shows. Yeah, not this past week, but 1177 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 3: the week before. So if you haven't listened to that yet, 1178 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 3: you can go back and listen to it. 1179 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,760 Speaker 4: He's got an old school build to him, by the way. 1180 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 4: That's why I think I like he's just a mauler. 1181 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 5: I mean, I would say the temperament is yeah school too. 1182 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. Man, push of knock guys down as many. I mean, 1183 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 4: anybody gets his way just kind of knocks knocks him down. 1184 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 3: So Walchuck did to me in the hallway the other day. 1185 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 3: I just turned the corner and he hit me and 1186 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 3: I was on the floor. Pancake block, That's what happened. 1187 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 4: Uh, this one's a good one. 1188 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 3: Brian brought us Is Jackson Powers Johnson the Oregon Center. 1189 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 3: He said he's a tone center. 1190 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 4: Oh thank you. I appreciate that. Uh. You know, yeah, 1191 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 4: I wish I had this kind of rare athletic traits. 1192 00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 4: I would have I would have played a lot more 1193 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 4: at Elish instead of just being a snapper. Yeah, this 1194 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 4: guy's got the right attitude about it, and there's a mean, 1195 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 4: nasty streak to his game. We've talked about him. He's 1196 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 4: he has a problem for defenders to deal with in 1197 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 4: space because he's got some of that road greater mentality 1198 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,320 Speaker 4: to him, the foot speed, the movement, very good angles, 1199 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 4: getting second level. The toughness is just so impressive with 1200 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 4: this guy. And you don't see him getting making busts 1201 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 4: assignments you know with guys when they run twist. He's 1202 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 4: got everything kind of in front of him, keeps him 1203 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 4: from He's not fooled, and you can see he loves 1204 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 4: to play the game. And that's I think the most 1205 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 4: important thing about him. 1206 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, my favorite part about him is just the fact 1207 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 7: that you can. You can have a toolbox. Boy, you 1208 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 7: better bring every single one you have, because his ability 1209 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 7: to counter with his hands is so impressive to me, 1210 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:48,720 Speaker 7: and the way he's able to recover. 1211 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 5: He's not beat often. Let's just keep it a buck like, 1212 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 5: he's not beat. 1213 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 7: Often, but the minute that a DN or somebody thinks 1214 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 7: that he's beat, he's like. 1215 00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,240 Speaker 5: Oh no, just kidding back fu. Yeah. 1216 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 7: Like, And it's the finishing blocks as well as that 1217 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 7: he's because that's one thing I noticed about this a 1218 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 7: lot of the guys in this class is I find 1219 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 7: myself being like finished the block, just I need another 1220 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 7: more second, just to tick longer and hold that block up. 1221 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 5: And this guy is so sturdy and dependable as well. 1222 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 3: I went back and watched my comps for not comps, 1223 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 3: but really rating and scouting report for Tyler Linderbaum back 1224 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 3: a couple of drafts ago. This is my fifth year 1225 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 3: of doing pure rankings and scouting reports for the Draft 1226 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 3: Show and Dallas Cowboys Dot Com. If I had to 1227 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 3: combine all five draft classes, Tyler Linderbaum would be my 1228 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 3: number one center, Jackson Powers Johnson would be my number 1229 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 3: two out of all of those. 1230 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,399 Speaker 2: And you think it could flip. 1231 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,879 Speaker 3: I think it's not very far off, and I would 1232 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 3: probably put Linderbaumb just a little bit of ahead of 1233 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,760 Speaker 3: what I had what I have currently for Jackson Powers Johnson. 1234 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,879 Speaker 3: You're right, by the end of it all, I could 1235 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 3: flip it. But right now those are one two, And 1236 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 3: that's a compliment in itself, the fact that that's five 1237 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 3: years of draft classes and if you're saying this guy 1238 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 3: is that good to where Tyler Linderbaum's a multiple pro 1239 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,839 Speaker 3: bowler by this point, I think you've got something working 1240 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,439 Speaker 3: in the right direction, and that's exactly what Jackson Powers 1241 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 3: Johnson has. 1242 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 6: That's funny you mentioned that, because along with the h 1243 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 6: that same kind of questions that I was answering back 1244 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 6: on Friday, somebody had asked me about the comparison between 1245 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 6: Tyler Linderbaum and Jackson Powers Johnson, and gosh, I'm trying 1246 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 6: to find it. It's the question was, wasn't Tyler Linnerbaum 1247 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 6: a better center prospect than Jackson Powers Johnson and he 1248 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 6: went picked twenty five? What makes you question JPJ goes 1249 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,479 Speaker 6: even earlier than him? And I was like, to be fair, 1250 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,959 Speaker 6: I think we're all starting to bridge into Linderbaum hype. 1251 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 6: For JPJ. It's just happened much faster because of Linderbaum. 1252 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 6: I mean, he was at Iowa, you had that going 1253 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,320 Speaker 6: the end to his last season, and he's like, Okay, 1254 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 6: this is the center prospect and Jackson Power Johnson I 1255 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 6: feel like has really made all his money in the 1256 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 6: last month. Yeah, it's it's it's it's really stacking up 1257 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 6: for him, just much quicker. And you look at the 1258 00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 6: age difference. I think as well, I think that's gonna 1259 00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 6: be JPJ such a more interesting prospect at the end 1260 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 6: of the day. Does he end up going higher than 1261 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 6: twenty five? I think so. I think you'd I think 1262 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 6: it'd be shocked if you did. 1263 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 4: You pick somebody for yourself. 1264 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 6: So I did. 1265 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 5: I picked uh. 1266 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 6: I picked Jonathan Brooks, first year starter and doesn't really 1267 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 6: know what the future holds because I choose what I 1268 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 6: you for dinner like five minutes before every night. 1269 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,279 Speaker 3: So I was I was thinking, I was thinking, have 1270 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,320 Speaker 3: you guys coming off of an acl sirch Yeah. 1271 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, first year starter, doesn't really know what's going on, 1272 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 6: you know. 1273 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 4: I was thinking, have you I was thinking of you 1274 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 4: maybe as a lad McConkey, I'll take you. That's good 1275 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,800 Speaker 4: for Georgia scrappy. Yeah, this guy's played a ton of 1276 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 4: big games in his career and he shows up well. 1277 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 4: He's a fluid moving athlete. He's slippery side to his game. 1278 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,319 Speaker 4: He's one of the best route runners I've studied in. 1279 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 2: This draft technician. 1280 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 4: He was acceptive with his speed with a burst, you 1281 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 4: would not think he's going anywhere with the ball. Then 1282 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,240 Speaker 4: the next thing you know, he's off to the races. 1283 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 4: He's just one of those types of guys. He's a 1284 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,720 Speaker 4: short air quickness player. He can create opportunities at different 1285 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 4: levels of the defense. I mentioned about the routes, good 1286 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,240 Speaker 4: quickness off the line that he can escape. He catches 1287 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 4: the ball with ease. If it's anywhere near him, he's 1288 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 4: going to make the play. And he just got toughness, 1289 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 4: is a willingness to go get it, and he's skilled 1290 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 4: when finding the ball. That's a great job of tracking, attacking. 1291 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 4: One of the best in the country and it comes 1292 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:17,839 Speaker 4: to receiving touchdowns and first down. 1293 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 7: That's funny that you picked it for that for him, 1294 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 7: because I actually said one of the best. 1295 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,760 Speaker 4: This guy's one of my favorite players. 1296 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he's one of the best at the 1297 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 7: top of the route that I've seen and transition from 1298 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 7: top speed and being able to stop on a dine 1299 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 7: with good releases. I was the separation he's able to 1300 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 7: create consistently. 1301 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 5: It's very impressive. 1302 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 7: So he has a good feel for the position. You 1303 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 7: can see that it's it's not it's not too fast 1304 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 7: for him. Things seem like they're slowed down for him. 1305 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 4: If you like Pokin Na Koua feel like this guy. 1306 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 8: That's fair. 1307 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:49,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1308 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,359 Speaker 5: And he gave people the business at the Senior Bone. 1309 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1310 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean almost here. 1311 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 4: Doesn't care who lines up across the room. He is 1312 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,400 Speaker 4: going to run a route that's going to corkscrew somebody 1313 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:57,879 Speaker 4: into the ground. 1314 00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 2: Was he on the All Practice team. I want to 1315 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 2: say he was for I'm sure he was voted. 1316 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, they always thought somebody had Yeah. The defensive backs 1317 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 4: I think voted him matter. I mean that's it's usually 1318 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 4: the opposite to who you know you're facing against. Yeah. Yeah. 1319 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,919 Speaker 3: The by the way, the the comp that he had 1320 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 3: for me was Xavier. Look at who just broke down 1321 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 3: in the previous segment. He was worried about his size. 1322 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 3: He was worried about translating to the next level. 1323 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 6: I appreciate you a big play guy, didn't I Yeah 1324 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 6: you did. You said big Yeah, get out of here. 1325 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is. 1326 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 7: But I'm so finally I'm glad we finally brought up 1327 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 7: lab mccomptly. 1328 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 5: I feel like it's it's it's it's overdue. 1329 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 4: That's overdue. I'll tell you what. He's a lot of 1330 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 4: fun to watch on tape. He's not hard to find, 1331 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 4: you know. He just every time the you know, the 1332 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 4: beck the quarterback which is shot back and he needs 1333 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 4: a big play, he's gonna throw it to eighty four. 1334 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 3: We always talk about those guys that you're watching one player, yeah, 1335 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 3: and the other guys show up. You're watching brock Bowers 1336 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 3: tear up defenses in the SEC and every couple of 1337 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 3: plays you start seeing, yeah, you start seeing eighty four 1338 00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 3: flash across the screen. 1339 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 2: You're like, holy, it's. 1340 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 4: Even fun when they put eighty four nineteen on the 1341 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 4: same side of the field and they're running routes for 1342 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 4: each other. 1343 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 5: Yea, just to stop and to stop and yeah, yeah, 1344 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 5: it's just crazy. 1345 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 6: Should we talk about brock Bowers really quick and how 1346 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 6: he's going to be under the fiftieth percentile for basically 1347 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 6: every single tight end measurement and measurable that you could ask. 1348 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,919 Speaker 6: You hate brock Bowers, No, no, no, I'm just I'm 1349 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 6: just throwing that out there as a potential concern with 1350 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 6: brock Bowers, that there was a picture that had got 1351 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 6: posted over the weekend at Super Bowl weekend and him 1352 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 6: standing next to Gronk and it. 1353 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 4: Looked like a different player, didn't Yeah. 1354 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 6: Brock looked like he he was, you know, like a 1355 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 6: sailing sailing a car insurance. Yeah, you know, so it's 1356 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 6: it's it's different. It's there's definitely a difference there. I mean, 1357 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 6: he is that shorter stock of your guy. 1358 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 3: Everyone knows that he sacrifices that size for his speed, 1359 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 3: because he really does have beat in verticality absolutely balanced, 1360 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 3: and I've seen some mocks slip him to as far 1361 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 3: back as fifteen. 1362 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,919 Speaker 6: I've seen him go as high as number five. 1363 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 5: Overall. 1364 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 6: I think it's an interesting prospect for sure. But I don't. 1365 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 6: I don't know if we're having this conversation about brock 1366 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 6: Bower as a day one type of guy that can 1367 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 6: walk onto an NFL team and contribute immediately. I don't know. 1368 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 6: I don't know about that. Do I think eventually? Absolutely? 1369 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 6: I mean, this is a dynamic offensive weapon you see 1370 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 6: when he's done for Georgia. I trust in brock Bowers, 1371 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 6: but I think there's gonna have to be a little 1372 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 6: bit more size added there. 1373 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 4: I really do think if he gets your spot, you're 1374 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 4: taking him. 1375 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 7: The versatility and the uniqueness of the player does make 1376 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 7: you want to be like he because he can do 1377 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 7: so many different things. 1378 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 5: It was different. 1379 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 7: It would be different to me if he was just 1380 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 7: a straight up tight end and whatever the case. 1381 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 9: Dude. 1382 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't. I don't. 1383 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 4: I'm not sure I have to like that Cede lamp pick. 1384 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a Cede Lambscenaria. 1385 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You think, like, oh, we're 1386 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 4: talking about sinners, and we're talking about you know, all 1387 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:46,600 Speaker 4: these other positions. 1388 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 3: Can I trade Jake Ferguson if I take him? 1389 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 7: You can't afford to the world what oh that you 1390 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 7: can afford to get rid of Jake Ferguson Because. 1391 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 2: You say're drafting a first round tight end, you got 1392 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 2: to trade somebody. You trade Schoolmaker. Nobody's going to. 1393 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 3: Take Schoonmaker for anything close to what you want. Ferguson's 1394 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 3: values high. Right now, I'm not saying I would want 1395 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 3: to do this. Let's get that straight. 1396 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, Would he be your best 1397 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 4: player on your board if he got to you at 1398 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 4: twenty four? Yeah? 1399 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 2: Probably he might be. 1400 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 5: Like he can do a lot. 1401 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 4: But also can take guys like Pitt's Better from Atlanta, 1402 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 4: Florida like. 1403 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 6: A prospect as a prospect, I think so. 1404 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 4: But I just liking. I just liking this Georgia guy. 1405 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 5: I like it. 1406 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 7: I like him. 1407 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 4: I think I'm with you. 1408 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 2: Did you have not? Carings was one of my top guys? 1409 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 4: He was, but you watched this kid play. I think 1410 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 4: right about it because. 1411 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 7: He's not he's not, but it will be different when 1412 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 7: you talk about the size he's up for the task. 1413 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 7: In blocking, he's not even even though you're you know, 1414 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 7: I think that the explosiveness and the way that he 1415 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 7: works through he works through things is going to stand 1416 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 7: out to people. And he can get up at the 1417 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 7: second level as well. But he can cut in the 1418 01:00:58,640 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 7: open field. 1419 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 5: He could be a weapon. And it depends on what. 1420 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 5: I guess it just depends on what you're looking for. 1421 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 7: It comes from a football family, comes from an athletic family, period, 1422 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 7: so he knows what the moment calls for. 1423 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not saying about on brock Powers. I want 1424 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 6: the rest. We know that we're not fussing at you 1425 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 6: twenty four. 1426 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 4: I want the record of the show. 1427 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 2: I'm not actually trying to trade Jake Ferguson. I love 1428 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 2: jac heard what you're saying. No, no, you stop it. 1429 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 4: We heard what you said, Savior, no question. 1430 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 2: Come on now. All right, that's it for us today 1431 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 2: on the Draft Show. 1432 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 3: We'll be back on Thursday, continuing to break down draft 1433 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 3: prospects with more here presented by Miller Life for Chris, 1434 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 3: Beam in the back for Nick Harris. 1435 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 2: Brian brought us Ayisha Morrison. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so 1436 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 2: long from the Draft Show. We'll see you on Thursday. 1437 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 1438 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.