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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator,

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Speaker 2: I feel like the entire show tonight we should just

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Speaker 2: scream at one another and yell in honor of the

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Speaker 2: state of the union that you just walked out of.

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Speaker 2: Are your ears okay?

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Speaker 3: Well, that they're not. I have a little bit of trauma.

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Speaker 3: It is twelve seventeen in the morning, and I just

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Speaker 3: spent a little bit over an hour sitting on the

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Speaker 3: floor of the house being yelled at by a deranged

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Speaker 4: It was an experience, and I'll.

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Speaker 3: Tell you what we're going to talk about that We're

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Speaker 3: going to break down everything that happened. But we also

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Speaker 3: have a very special feature tonight, and it is it

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Speaker 3: is a happy twist of fate because I was not

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Speaker 3: the only person in the chamber listening to that angry

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Speaker 3: old man screaming, but an unemployed podcaster and radio host

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Speaker 3: and former Marquee actor and book author turned out that

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Speaker 3: he was desperately in need of some liquor and cigars

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Speaker 3: and so sent me a text earlier tonight.

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Speaker 4: And so I'm actually.

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Speaker 3: Quite quite proud to welcome back to Verdict, my original

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Speaker 3: co host and my dear friend Michael Knowles, Michael, welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 5: Back, Senator. It's good to be back, Ben, it's good

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Speaker 5: to be back. But you tricked me. You tricked me

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Speaker 5: because I look, you're right, what do I do? I

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Speaker 5: don't do verdict anymore. So I had a lot of

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Speaker 5: time on my hands. I sauntered down to DC said,

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Speaker 5: I got nothing better to do than listen to this

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Speaker 5: old man yell at me for three hours, however long

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Speaker 5: it took at the State of the Union. And I said,

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Speaker 5: but you know what we'll make this night totally redeemed,

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Speaker 5: is I will text my friend Senator Cruz and we'll

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Speaker 5: have a nice cigar. And you said, absolutely, Michael, come

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Speaker 5: on over and we'll have cigars. Right after we finished

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Speaker 5: the podcast, and I said, all right, you got me.

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Speaker 5: I already agreed, Okay, I'm in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And this is how you and this is how we

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Speaker 2: welcome you back. By the way, you went to this

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Speaker 2: thing tonight as well, which was really just an hysterical

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Speaker 2: State of the Union. If you're ever going to go

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Speaker 2: to State of the Union, there's nothing better than saying

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Speaker 2: you can remember for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 1: I was at the one that lasts an hour and.

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Speaker 2: Eight minutes, where it looked like Joe Biden might have

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Speaker 2: been on some sort of drug and was screaming and

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Speaker 2: talking very fast for at least the first forty five

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Speaker 2: Joe's stature and slowed it back down a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So you can tell your kids and grandkids about that.

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Speaker 3: Wait a second, damn, it was the time, actually an

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Speaker 3: hour and eight minutes. It was, but it was because

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Speaker 3: which is Roger Marshall sent a text to a bunch

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Speaker 3: of us with all sorts of wagers, and one of

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Speaker 3: them was an over under on the length, and his

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Speaker 3: over under was seventy minutes. And I took the over, dammit,

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Speaker 3: And so I was two minutes off.

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Speaker 4: You took it.

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Speaker 5: I was betting I was just up there in the

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Speaker 5: national news story. Biden can't make it. So I thought

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Speaker 4: Say what you will.

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Speaker 5: It was a horrific speech, but it went a long

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Speaker 2: I said, fifty five minutes. That was what I thought.

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Speaker 2: I thought it'd be barely under an hour. But he

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Speaker 1: And is it true that he was late.

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Speaker 2: Did either of you guys see the protesters that apparently

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Speaker 1: Is that true?

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Speaker 3: I know that's what people were saying, but it was strange.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen at the State of the Union where

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I did not see protesters really. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: But you know that there were none that I saw

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Speaker 2: Hey, when you get the doctors and they got to

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Speaker 2: get you juiced uff for your night, it may take

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Speaker 2: and we're going to go through those, But first let

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Speaker 2: me tell you about our friends over at the International

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Speaker 2: Fellowship of Christian and Jews. We all know about the

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Speaker 2: atroses that were committed by Hamas last October seventh, and

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Speaker 2: The reality is the toll on the Israeli people is staggering.

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Speaker 1: It's massive.

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Speaker 2: There are hundreds of thousands of Israelis that have been

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Speaker 2: they're basically gone. Lives have been devastated by death and destruction.

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Speaker 2: And that is why I want you to help right

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Speaker 2: now by getting involved with the International Fellowship of Christian

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Speaker 2: to help those that are in critical needs of essentials

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Speaker 2: why we are partnering with IFCJ today. I want you

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Speaker 2: to visit support IFCJ dot org to help every donation

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Speaker 2: support IFCJ dot org center. I want to start with

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Speaker 2: the big shock for me was how he started the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, the whole thing was bizarre. I've been to

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Speaker 3: This was by far the worst I've ever seen and

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Speaker 3: the strangest I've ever seen. So this was a campaign speech,

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Speaker 3: and he was completely out of touch. The entire speech

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Speaker 4: Get off my front lawn. It was very odd.

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Speaker 5: I wanted your perspective on it, because You've been to

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Speaker 5: so many of these now and I couldn't tell. Maybe

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Speaker 5: did seem much angry, but there was something hollow about it,

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Speaker 5: I have to be yelling the whole time. But but

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Speaker 5: what was so odd was he was yelling and slurring

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Speaker 3: It is also interesting in that it reveals the political

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Speaker 3: strategy of the political White House for this election, which

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Speaker 3: is there were zero nods to the middle. This speech

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Speaker 3: said Republicans across America, I don't want your votes, independence

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Speaker 4: I don't want your votes.

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Speaker 3: That this was an effort to woo the squad, that

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Speaker 3: the reservation Elizabeth Warren. And you know, look, she's spent

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Speaker 3: a lot of time in reservation.

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Speaker 3: You know, Bernie Sanders AOC and I don't know if

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Speaker 3: But look, I can tell you one of the things

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Speaker 5: I couldn't figure out the calculus on that, because I agree,

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Speaker 5: We're going to bring our hostages back. I mean, that

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Speaker 5: for the Republican primary, and the Poles are putting Trump

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Speaker 5: could change. But if I'm Joe Biden, I don't need

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Speaker 5: AOC and Aana Presley. They were on their feet, they

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Speaker 1: Really And I think what it was when I was

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Speaker 2: Obviously I was watching on TV, and I had a

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Speaker 2: But when Biden entered the House Chamber and the dim

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Speaker 2: across as was I've got to let the Democratic Party

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Speaker 2: to replace me at the convention. I am the candidate.

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Speaker 2: The entire speech, watching again on TV, came across as

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Speaker 3: Look, it was a very strange moment, I will say

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Speaker 1: That's what America does.

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Speaker 6: That's what America does.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Ben I will say, if he was

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Speaker 1: You would have led with it before Ukraine, you would hope.

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Speaker 3: Like, like, wouldn't you just start? Good evening, I want

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Speaker 3: Look, it was it was out of touch. It was

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Speaker 2: But he's gonna give you four hundred dollars. Didn't he

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Speaker 3: It was over and over again. He had new things

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Speaker 3: moments in the State of the Union. And there were

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Speaker 3: no beautiful moments tonight.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's because he was running for reelection.

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Speaker 2: He was all about that I'm not going anywhere.

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Speaker 5: Even at the end of the speech though, because I

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Speaker 5: totally agree with you, Ben, he was and I agree

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Speaker 5: with you, Senator. You know, this is this rallying of

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Speaker 5: the base. Maybe it was just to shore up the

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Speaker 5: By the end, he started to lean in a little

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Speaker 5: bit toward what could have been poetry, but it was

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Speaker 5: within the span of about three minutes, at the end

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Speaker 5: of the speech, he says, we are still the United

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Speaker 5: States of America. We have enduring values. We believe what

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Speaker 5: we've always believed, these old enduring ideas, and then not

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Speaker 5: two seconds later, he says, but we got to get

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Speaker 5: rid of the old ideas. We need all the new ideas.

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Speaker 5: And I said, wait a second, but you had two

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Speaker 5: speech writers clearly with separate theses on this, and they

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Speaker 5: don't work together.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about tonight.

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Speaker 1: Center.

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Speaker 2: You did Hannity tonight, and there was one thing that

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Speaker 2: Handy said that I thought was very interesting in his monologue.

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Speaker 2: He was talking about the obsession with the White House,

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Speaker 2: saying that the economy's strong and Bidenomics is working. I

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Speaker 2: want you to hear what he had to say for

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Speaker 2: everyone that missed it. It's very interesting.

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Speaker 7: Let's start with his lives on the economy.

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Speaker 1: Take a look, I heard it. Economy is on the

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Speaker 1: brink now.

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Speaker 6: Our economy is literally the envy of the world. Fifteen

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Speaker 6: million new jobs in just three years, a record, a

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Speaker 6: record way.

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Speaker 1: Just keep going up. In flash, she keeps coming down.

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Speaker 6: Inflation has dropped from nine percent to three percent, the

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Speaker 6: lowest in the world and tending lower.

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Speaker 1: The land he is and will be saw all right.

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Speaker 1: Here is the truth. Here of the facts.

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Speaker 7: Since Biden took office, cumulative prices have risen over seventeen percent.

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Speaker 7: Real hourly wages have only risen thirteen percent. Sixty percent

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Speaker 7: of our fellow Americans, sadly, they are living paycheck to

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Speaker 7: paycheck now costs across the board. They are surgery, groceries,

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Speaker 7: are eating up more of the American people's paychecks, and

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Speaker 7: they have in over thirty years. In fact, according to

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Speaker 7: a recent study, Americans now need to make eleven four

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Speaker 7: hundred dollars more to afford the same quality of life

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Speaker 7: that they did in twenty twenty one. And his claims

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Speaker 7: about job creation another lie. In reality, almost ten million

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Speaker 7: of those jobs are just well backfield jobs or temporary

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Speaker 7: jobs that were lost during the pandemic. And as we

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Speaker 7: know now many of those other jobs were part time

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Speaker 7: jobs going too many farm born workers.

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Speaker 1: That he's led it in this country on veted illegally.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Senator, you hear that montage. It's spot on.

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Speaker 2: But this goes back to how tone death this White

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Speaker 2: House seems to be. It's the economy, stupid. You walk

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Speaker 2: out there and you the beginning of the stay of

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Speaker 2: the Union was, I'm going to tell the American people

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Speaker 2: you must give massive amounts of money Ukraine or you're

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Speaker 2: an evil person. You better give me abortion on demand

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Speaker 2: and help me allow me to kill more babies, or

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Speaker 2: you're a terrible person. And I'm going to oh and

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Speaker 2: on top of that, I'm going to attack the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court in front of me and basically say they're illegitimate.

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Speaker 2: And then after forty something minutes, I might mention the

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Speaker 2: number one issue for many Americans, which is border security.

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Speaker 1: It took him forty plus minutes to get to that.

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Speaker 3: Well, and before we turn to border security, which we

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Speaker 3: obviously are going to talk about, let's pause for a

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Speaker 3: second on inflation, and I'll say number one. Hannity referenced

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Speaker 3: the study that's say it's over eleven thousand dollars a

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Speaker 3: year to live the same standard of living you had

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one, just three years ago before Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden came to office. That works out to nearly one

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars more a month. Wow, is what people are

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Speaker 3: having to pay just to tread water, just to stay

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Speaker 3: where they were in twenty twenty one. And I get

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Speaker 3: to say, the moment where Biden seemed most out of

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Speaker 3: touch on this issue was when he did his whole

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Speaker 3: shrink flation thing, And it kind of felt like, you

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Speaker 3: remember Andy Rooney, who'd be like, you ever notice when

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Speaker 3: you have potato chips as many potato chips in the

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Speaker 3: bag as they used to be.

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Speaker 4: Why is that it's a direct quote from the State

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Speaker 4: of the Union.

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Speaker 3: It if you're trying not to seem like a crazy

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Speaker 3: old man ranting, maybe don't sound like a crazy old

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Speaker 3: man ranting. And on the other level, no kidding, Yes,

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Speaker 3: we're aware what shrink inflation is and you caused it,

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Speaker 3: Like there's no actual use of the cranium to say, well,

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Speaker 3: what is causing those mean old corporations to put fewer

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Speaker 3: potato chips in the bag. Do they just hate their

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Speaker 3: customers and don't want them to eat potato chips? Or

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Speaker 3: are they dealing with inflation and it costs more and

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Speaker 3: more and more and they're trying to find ways to

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Speaker 3: fight the inflation that you caused by printing trillions of

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Speaker 3: dollars in money we didn't have. There's no awareness of that.

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Speaker 3: There's just ranting, I don't like shrinkflation, So what are

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Speaker 3: we gonna do? Pass Bob Casey's bill on shrinkflation? And

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Speaker 3: we're all looking at each other going, what the hell

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Speaker 3: does Casey have?

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Speaker 4: Like, like, what does Casey have a law?

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Speaker 3: We're going to count the chips in your bag and

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Speaker 3: if you're below the chips, Joe Biden gives you four

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Speaker 3: hundred dollars.

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Speaker 5: Like Hostito's Protection Act from Casey you know it. It

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Speaker 5: reminded me of that meme of the guy who has

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Speaker 5: the gun and he turns around and he shoots someone,

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Speaker 5: and then he looks at the camera. He says, why

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Speaker 5: did X, Y and Z do that? Right, and blames

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Speaker 5: anything else, And it's Biden with the inflation. He has

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Speaker 5: all this massive spending and then he says, why did

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Speaker 5: the tostitos company do that? But if you had taken

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Speaker 5: even economics one oh one in high school, you would say, look,

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Speaker 5: the chip company has always had an incentive to maximize profits.

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Speaker 5: The thing that has change is not that all of

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Speaker 5: a sudden the potato chip company wants to make money.

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Speaker 5: Clearly something else in the economic He's changed here between

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Speaker 5: the last eight years or so.

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Speaker 3: By the way, when the economy is booming, think what

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Speaker 3: big mean corporations do they sell megamega size even more chips,

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Speaker 3: you know, the big gulp with enough to drink to

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Speaker 3: have you on caffeine for the next thirteen weeks.

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Speaker 4: Like that, Also is the profit.

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Speaker 3: Motive if you're not dealing with crushing inflation and trying

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Speaker 3: to figure out a way to make things work right.

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Speaker 2: All right, I gotta ask you guys about the heckling

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Speaker 2: that happened. There was one person that heckled tonight. It's

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Speaker 2: now being reported that that individual was a gold star

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Speaker 2: father whose son, Lance Colonel Karen nick Koori, who was

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Speaker 2: killed by a terrorist suicide bomber during Joe Biden's disastrous

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Speaker 2: withdraw from Afghanistan. I usually am not a big fan

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Speaker 2: of heckling. I don't think that's heckling once I learned

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Speaker 2: the backstory. That was an angry father who saw a

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Speaker 2: president that was rewriting history.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, we did not know the backstory when he yelled.

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Speaker 3: We could tell he was yelling something about a marine company,

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Speaker 3: but we couldn't tell the details in that room. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: if his son lost his life, I wondered if it

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Speaker 3: was if it was one of the Marines who was

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Speaker 3: killed in Afghanistan, if that's what he was referring to,

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Speaker 3: and apparently it was. Look, Joe Biden accepts no responsibility

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Speaker 3: for anything, and instead his White House tries to whitewash

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Speaker 3: every foreign policy disaster as an absolute success. And you know,

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Speaker 3: when it comes to the thirteen servicemen and women who

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Speaker 3: died in Afghanistan, that was completely unnecessary.

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Speaker 4: It was Biden's fault.

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Speaker 3: By the way, one of my favorite pods we ever

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Speaker 3: did is when we focused on the testimony of the

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Speaker 3: young marine who was there in Afghanistan and had the

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Speaker 3: suicide bomber, had him identified him, was prepared to take

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Speaker 3: him out, and the Biden White House wouldn't let him,

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Speaker 3: and he was prevented from doing so, and those service

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Speaker 3: men and women were killed.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm seeing a news report now. I don't

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Speaker 5: know if it's been verified or not, that the man

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Speaker 5: who was yelling out about his son and the Marines

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Speaker 5: was arrested and charged with a misdemeanor for interrupting Biden.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't know it was a crime at all

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Speaker 5: to interrupt the state of the Union. If it is,

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Speaker 5: I imagine not a court in the land would ever convict

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Speaker 5: him given the circumstances of what he did.

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Speaker 4: Have you seen the DC district courts? Well, fair enough.

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Speaker 2: I was saying, you'll have a much shot, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: trust me, they'll go after them all the way.

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Speaker 5: Right. I forgot where we were broadcasting from right now.

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Speaker 2: It was putting you in the swamp, brother, You were

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Speaker 2: right in the swamp.

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Speaker 5: But putting that particular instance aside it did seem to

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Speaker 5: me that there was more heckling than usual. You've been

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Speaker 5: to a dozen of these centators.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I mean there has been. The Democrats were

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Speaker 3: doing lots of the four more years, which was weird.

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Speaker 3: I don't recall I don't recall anyone doing that for Obama.

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Speaker 3: I don't recall folks doing it for Trump. I may

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Speaker 3: not be remembering it, but if it happened, I don't

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Speaker 3: remember it, you know, I will say, Look, in recent years,

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Speaker 3: I have not like. There are some House Republicans who

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Speaker 3: heckled the president, and I got.

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Speaker 4: To say, I really dislike that.

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Speaker 3: I disagree passionately with Joe Biden, but I respect the

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Speaker 3: office of the presidency and what it represents, and so

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Speaker 3: even if I disagree with him, I just think it's

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Speaker 3: not Look, a gold star father is a different circumstance,

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Speaker 3: But for a member of Congress, I think heckling is

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Speaker 3: is not not consistent with the decorum and respect that

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Speaker 3: is owed, not just the presidency. By the way, did

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Speaker 3: you notice what didn't happen at the beginning of the speech?

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Speaker 3: Did you notice the Speaker of the House speak the

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Speaker 3: House the speech up into shreds, and.

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Speaker 2: He didn't get to introduce him. Did you notice that

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00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: as well? Usually you have him introduce He didn't do that.

659
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: The President just walked up there, went straight to the

660
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: to the podium and started talking. And the entire moment

661
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: where you're supposed to introduce him that comes to the

662
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: Speak of the House never happened.

663
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Speaker 3: It was It was very odd and look the heckling

664
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: led to So I predicted before the speech that there

665
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 3: were four words that that Biden would not say, Lake

666
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: and Riley and Jeremy Caserras. Now, as it so happened,

667
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: he kind of sort of said Lake.

668
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 4: And Riley, but he almost tried to.

669
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: But he did so in response to heckling someone calling

670
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: out say her name, and there were many members of

671
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: Congress wearing buttons and pins that said Lake and Riley,

672
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: say her name.

673
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: And he said the wrong name.

674
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: He said Lincoln Riley, which the.

675
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: Head football coach at usc.

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00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: It and he had one of those buttons. So I

677
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: think I think one of the members of Congress had

678
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: given it to him.

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00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't know if it was Congressman Andy Ogles

680
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 5: who actually invited me tonight, or if it was Marjorie

681
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 5: Taylor Green or what but there were a handful of

682
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 5: the conservative congressman who had it, and what I heard

683
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 5: from one of the members was that they handed it

684
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 5: to the president. He leaned it, he said, oh, I

685
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 5: like your button. But I don't think it was sarcastic.

686
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 5: I think he legitimately had no idea what was going

687
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 5: on and what it represented.

688
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 3: Well, look when the heckling happened, he responded, and he

689
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: did sort of try to say her name, although he

690
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: didn't get it right. But then look what he said.

691
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: He said, you know, she was killed. I'm sorry she

692
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: was killed, and he expressed sympathy for the parents. And

693
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: I got to say that may have been the moment

694
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: that pissed me off the most because listen, so Lake

695
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: and Riley's parents were invited, and actually, you know, they

696
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: were invited and they decided not to come. And I

697
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: understand they are grieving the loss of their daughter, their

698
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: home in Georgia, and the Georgia House member who invited

699
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 3: them left the seat vacant in honor of Lake and Riley.

700
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: And you know, frankly, they don't want Joe Biden's empathy.

701
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: They don't want a Hallmark.

702
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 4: Card from him.

703
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: They want their daughter back and and what Joe Biden

704
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: didn't do is take responsibility for his direct culpability. And

705
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: let's walk through. Lake and Riley never should have been killed.

706
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: The illegal immigrant who murdered her was caught. He was

707
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: apprehended in Texas, in El Paso. He came illegally from Venezuela.

708
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: We had him. And what should have happened is the

709
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 3: Biden administration should have followed the law. They should have

710
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: put him on a plane and flown him back to Venezuela.

711
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 3: And if Joe Biden had done that, Lake and Riley

712
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: would still be alive today.

713
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 4: But it wasn't.

714
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 5: Just l Pass was so so frustrating about this, all

715
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 5: a totally preventable tragedy. Yes, they could have gotten him

716
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 5: in New York. They did get him in New York.

717
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 5: He committed a crime in New York they let him go.

718
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: He was arrested for endangering a child. But New York City,

719
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 3: again run by Democrats, calls itself a sanctuary city, and

720
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: they let him go. If Joe Biden had deported him,

721
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: Lake and Riley would be alive. If New York City

722
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 3: had kept it and jail, Lake and Riley would be

723
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: a lot forget.

724
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 4: About New York City.

725
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 5: He ends up in Athens, Georgia, and he steals from

726
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 5: a store. I forget which store. It was the Georgia authorities.

727
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 5: I think he was cited with a misdemeanor for shoplifting.

728
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 5: You had three distinct opportunities.

729
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: Three chances to get rid of him.

730
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 5: Three chances, three strikes, You're out, and a poor American

731
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 5: student winds up dead because.

732
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: And by the way, let's be clear, Jeremy Cassaris is

733
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 3: a two year old boy, a beautiful little boy who

734
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: was murdered just weeks ago in Prince George's County in Virginia,

735
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: about thirty miles from where Joe Biden was standing. And

736
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: that little boy was murdered again by an illegal immigrant

737
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 3: that Joe Biden let go. This is happening across the country.

738
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: We're getting day after day stories of children raped by

739
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: illegal immigrants. Joe Biden is let go. And he had

740
00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: zero acknowledgment of that, zero intention of changing anything. It

741
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: was just crocodile tears of I'm so sorry about your daughter,

742
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: without acknowledging it happened because of his policies, and he

743
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: continues to do those policies which means there'll be another

744
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: lake in Riley tomorrow and another set of parents that

745
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: he again disingenuously apologizes well.

746
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: And the proof that the President doesn't seem to care

747
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: about this issue is the fact that it took him

748
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: forty minutes into an hour speech to even mention the

749
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: border on his own. That's how far they buried the

750
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: border issue in his State of the Union speech.

751
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 5: What I wondered when he was browbeating the Republicans for

752
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 5: not voting for even more illegal immigration, which is what

753
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 5: his border bill would have done, is is he just

754
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: counting on the American people not realizing that he is

755
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 5: dismantling the fence that the Texas border authorities are putting up,

756
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 5: That it's not merely passivity that he's allowing.

757
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: Actually give you a little bit of correction on that

758
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 3: he wants to dismantle it, but he hasn't actually done it.

759
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 4: He hasn't succeeded.

760
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 3: No, No, the razor wire is there, and they ended up

761
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: Texas had gotten an injunction preventing the Biden administration from

762
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: removing the razor wire, and that injunction got reversed. So

763
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: the Biden administration is no longer prevented from removing the

764
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 3: razor wire, but they have not done so.

765
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 5: They wanted to do it, they're prevented from doing it,

766
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 5: they're then allowed to do it, but they got spooked

767
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 5: by the politics off Yeah. Wow, Wow, that's actually encouraging

768
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 5: that someone at the White House is saying, hold on

769
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 5: that that really crazy thing that we were going to do.

770
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 5: Maybe let's hold off, yeah for a few days.

771
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 4: Wow.

772
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: All right, before we end, I got to get you

773
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: guys reaction to two different things, two clips from CNN.

774
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: You guys were obviously in the chamber and you didn't

775
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: get to see all the commentary. I want you to

776
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: hear what CNN had to say about the state of

777
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: the Union. This is clip one.

778
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: Listen.

779
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 8: He seemed like Walkowski, you talking about this area, he said,

780
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 8: like Walkawowski and Grandtarino screaming at kids, get off my lawn,

781
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 8: like an old guy screaming agains.

782
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 9: My guess is that when he got into the heart

783
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 9: of his agenda, the things that you ridicule about the

784
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 9: cost of food and you know, price gouging and so on.

785
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: I bet you that scored.

786
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 9: With a lot of people. I think that they the

787
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 9: populist economic agenda is a powerful, powerful thing for him.

788
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: Look, there are parts of it.

789
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 9: I'm not sure that the attacks all landed exactly. They

790
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 9: may have landed well in that room for sure, and

791
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 9: they landed well with base voters for sure. I'm not

792
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 9: sure where those swing voters that they landed as well,

793
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 9: but I do think.

794
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: I mean, that's David Axrod, the former Obama you know,

795
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 2: senior advisor, who's saying, you know, in response to one

796
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: of the commenters saying, look it was it was like

797
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: an old guy screaming to the kids get off my lawn.

798
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: It's what you said earlier. Center.

799
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: But they're saying CNN and he's even admitting, hey, there's

800
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: a pretty good chance that didn't play well or land

801
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: with independent voters.

802
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 3: Okay, Ben, you're really scaring me? Are you telling me that,

803
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: unbeknownst to me, I was channeling David Axelrod on CNN.

804
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: Holy crap. I might have to just hang it all

805
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 4: up right now. It's over.

806
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 3: I am off the rails, Michael right now.

807
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 4: Something we need to correct something.

808
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 3: And I got to say even worse, Axelrod's analogy is better.

809
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: He threw out the whole grand Tarino like he took

810
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: it one notch better. I am just thoroughly humiliated.

811
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: And not only that, you'll like this one.

812
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: So then there was another commentator on CNN who actually

813
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 2: said this about the president's speech.

814
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 8: Listen, he talked about snickers and snack chips before he

815
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 8: ever got to the border. He was obsessed with his

816
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 8: political rival more than he was obsessed with the condition

817
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 8: of the American people.

818
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 4: It was so weird.

819
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 8: This guy lectures us all on unity, the soul of

820
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 8: the nation, and he gives the most partisan convention speech

821
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 8: in place of a state of a Union that I've

822
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 8: ever heard. It's the literal opposite of unity. It's so partisan.

823
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 8: He's obsessed with taunting Republicans. It's not statesman life. Can

824
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 8: let's say one thing on Israel?

825
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 2: I mean, that was Scott Jennings, a former col league

826
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 2: of mine, who said that.

827
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: And he's right, by the way.

828
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: I mean, he did talk about snickers and snack chips

829
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: before he ever got to the border.

830
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: It was his words. It was just weird.

831
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 5: I like his observation that Joe Biden thought he was

832
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 5: at the DNC.

833
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 4: Maybe that's as simple as that.

834
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 5: You know, he thought he walked into the convention Whoosie

835
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 5: Daisy had actually was a joint session for the state

836
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 5: of the Union. But you know, the man doesn't remember

837
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 5: his own name.

838
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 3: I will say one thing that also, that clip reminded

839
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 3: me of It was odd how many times he referenced Trump.

840
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: I cannot think of any state of the Union in

841
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: my lifetime with that many references to your opponent, the

842
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: forer president, the forer president, the former president. And you

843
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: know he's like, you know, you know, I believe in

844
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: in truth and happiness and love and puppy dogs and fairies,

845
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: and my opponent believes in hate and suffering, in misery

846
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: and dead puppies.

847
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 5: Like like it was just like, really, do a little

848
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 5: defensive you would.

849
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: Say, campaign one I want.

850
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: I will tell you the list of things Biden didn't

851
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: mention to say the Union. You guys ready for this.

852
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 2: He did not mention US service members killed in Afghanistan.

853
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: He did not mention US service members killed by Iranian

854
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: backed proxies in the Middle East. He did not mention

855
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: gas prices. He did not mention TikTok or China uh.

856
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 2: He did not mention North Korea. He didn't mention Cuba.

857
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: He didn't mention school choice. He didn't mention the classified

858
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 2: doc scandal. He didn't mention Hunter Biden or the Biden corruption.

859
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: He did not mention fossil fuels. He did not mention

860
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 2: deporting illegals. He did not mention border wall, he did

861
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 2: not mention the attacks on pregnancy centers, and he did

862
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: not mention China's human rights abuses. Notice a lot of

863
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 2: those connect with people that have given money the Biden

864
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: crime family.

865
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: I'll leave it with that center your reaction.

866
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: Well, but do you have anything to say about how

867
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 3: many chips are in a bag of chips?

868
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 5: I think you know, I think he did touch on

869
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 5: that important subject.

870
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: Do you know the state of the Union may be

871
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: in trouble, but the state of chips is really in trouble.

872
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: There you go, Michael, Hey, welcome back, my friend. Always

873
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: a pleasure. This is fun, nice way to recap the

874
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: stay of the Union here. Don't forget Senator Cruise Nighty

875
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: This show Monday, Wednesday and Friday. We also have the

876
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: Week in Review on Saturdays as well, So make sure

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