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Speaker 1: You're listening to part three of Unexplained, Season seven, episode eighteen,

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Speaker 1: A Dance with Mister d. Back in March fifteen eighty two,

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Speaker 1: a story was doing the rounds in London. It was

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Speaker 1: about an event that took place in a park one

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Speaker 1: night under cover of moonlight, on the outskirts of Walton

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Speaker 1: in the Dale, some two hundred miles northwest of the capitol,

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Speaker 1: A long bearded young man wearing a hooded cloak walks

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Speaker 1: gingerly with a cane on his head is a black

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Speaker 1: skull cap pulled down low above the ears, the tops

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Speaker 1: of which just discernible under the soft light of the moon,

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Speaker 1: have been completely chopped off. The man is accompanied by

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Speaker 1: an associate and Thomas Langton, the local lord of the manor.

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Speaker 1: He is there to conduct a ritual at Langton's request,

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Speaker 1: to determine what the future holds in store for the lord.

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Speaker 1: And so the bearded man strides on into the depths

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Speaker 1: of the park until on finding the perfect spot, he

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Speaker 1: tells the others to stop. Then, taking out a large

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Speaker 1: book from within his cloak, he bids his associate to

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Speaker 1: light a candle. Under the orange glow of the single flame,

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Speaker 1: the man speaks an incantation into the still night air.

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Speaker 1: It's a message for the devil, or rather a request

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Speaker 1: for the information that Thomas Langton so desperately craves, how

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Speaker 1: long does he have left to live? And in what

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Speaker 1: manner will he die? Precisely with the incantation over, the

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Speaker 1: strange bearded man asks Langton's servant if he knows of

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Speaker 1: any recent burials at a nearby church. The servant replies yes,

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Speaker 1: as it happens, a recently executed criminal had just been

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Speaker 1: buried there that very afternoon. The man in the cloak

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Speaker 1: asks to be taken there straight away. Moments later, the

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Speaker 1: group are standing next to the fresh burial mount, whereupon

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Speaker 1: Langton's servant is instructed to dig up the body immediately.

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Speaker 1: When the executed man's carcass is finally unearthed, the cloaked

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Speaker 1: man bids his associate to light the candle once more

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Speaker 1: before continuing the incantation. As the words flow from the

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Speaker 1: man's mouth, much to Langton's horror, the dead man's stiff,

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Speaker 1: rubbery eyelids spring open to reveal two milky eyeballs rolled

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Speaker 1: back in their sockets. Then, from out of the body's grotesque,

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Speaker 1: twisted mouth comes the most hideous voice delivered to them

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Speaker 1: from the very bowels of Hell. A short time later,

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Speaker 1: a pale and shaking Thomas Langton as all the information

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Speaker 1: he needs, and the bearded, hooded, cloaked man a reputation

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Speaker 1: for necromancy that would precede him from that point on

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Speaker 1: almost everywhere he went. On March eighth, fifteen eighty two,

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Speaker 1: a few hours before that strange display of fiery lights

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Speaker 1: in the sky that John Dee had witnessed at Mortlake,

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Speaker 1: this same man arrived at Dee's home. His name, he said,

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Speaker 1: was Edward Talbot. Throughout the fifteen seventies, John d was

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Speaker 1: busy with conventional scholarly activities. He edited an addition of

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Speaker 1: Euclid's Elements, writing a famous preface justifying the study of mathematics.

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Speaker 1: D also observed the same supernova in fifteen seventy two

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Speaker 1: that the much revered astronomer Tycho Brahe is often praised for,

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Speaker 1: and in fifteen seventy three he wrote a book outlining

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Speaker 1: the trigonomic methods he used to find the distance to

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Speaker 1: this new star. Brahey is said to have greatly admired

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Speaker 1: D's work. No one knows for sure, exactly when these

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Speaker 1: scholarly interests began to deviate into more occult realms in

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Speaker 1: his diaries, The first reference to overtly magical and spiritual

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Speaker 1: activities appears in June fifteen seventy nine. D's own term

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Speaker 1: for crystal gazing and his attempts to contact angels was

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Speaker 1: scientific observations he made. The principal method he employed was scrying,

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Speaker 1: the act of looking into some kind of material, usually

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Speaker 1: of the future. Despite these absolute belief in the method,

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Speaker 1: Shortly before Edward Talbot showed up at his door, d

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Speaker 1: who he no longer trusted. When he and Talbot had

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Speaker 1: was quick to twist the knife in He told D

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Speaker 1: that Barnabas Saw was a well known commat among the

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Speaker 1: fraternity of squires. And Mediums of England. D quickly warmed

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Speaker 1: made of Edward Talbot exactly at that first meeting, whether

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Speaker 1: he noticed the cropped ears under Talbot's skullcap or the

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Speaker 1: man had endured numerous punishments for committing crimes, or what

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Speaker 1: he made of the young man's lameness as D led

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Speaker 1: D closed the double doors behind them and beckoned Talbot

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Speaker 1: the crystal ball in which Barnabas saw claimed he'd seen

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Speaker 1: the archangel Michael, and placed it on the desktop. At

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Speaker 1: the mere sight of it Talbot collapsed to his knees,

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Speaker 1: his apparent lameness seemingly completely gone. The crystal ball glinted

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Speaker 1: darkly on top of John Dee's desk as Talbot began

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Speaker 1: Sensing a shift in the atmosphere, D hurried into an

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Speaker 1: he called good creatures to appear and help them in

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Speaker 1: their quest. Fifteen minutes later, Talbot called him back to

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Speaker 1: with intense concentration, he relayed the figure's description to D

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Speaker 1: and then its name, Uriel. This, as D knew well,

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Speaker 1: hastily relaying them back to the apparent angel, until finally

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Speaker 1: he was seemingly released from the crystal ball's grip. Breathlessly,

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Speaker 1: he apologized to d Uriel had not been able to

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Speaker 1: the archangel Michael. They agreed to reconvene that afternoon. Elsewhere

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Speaker 1: after the couple's two young children. As is typical with

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Speaker 1: many accounts of men's life from this period, there are

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Speaker 1: few recorded details of John D's wives. The first was

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Speaker 1: of his second wife is not known at all. She

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Speaker 1: died a year after they were married, in fifteen seventy six,

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Speaker 1: possibly during childbirth. Neither were survived by children. D's third wife, Jane,

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Speaker 1: in fifteen seventy eight, D was fifty one. On spying

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Speaker 1: D's latest assistant, Jane asked for a word with her husband.

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Speaker 1: The strange man made her feel uncomfortable. She said he

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Speaker 1: as D and Talbot prepared for their second seance of

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Speaker 1: the day, Talbot turned suddenly serious. Ever since first stepping

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Speaker 1: inside D's home, he said he'd been aware of an

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Speaker 1: been possessed by an evil spirit named Lundrum Gupher, and

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Speaker 1: it was threatening the safety of D and his family.

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Speaker 1: But there was nothing to be worried about. He said

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Speaker 1: the middle of the afternoon, John D's whole house swirled

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Speaker 1: out a gasp. He could see something. He said. It

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Speaker 1: then a second figure appeared. It was the angel Uriel,

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Speaker 1: Talbot said. He continued on excitedly telling D everything that

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Speaker 1: even more awesome creature appeared in the crystal, blowing like

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Speaker 1: archangel Michael. Three days later, D and Talbot convened for

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Speaker 1: yet another seance. This time, Talbot described how a new

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Speaker 1: described how the angels took off this man's robe, dressed

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Speaker 1: then commanded him to kneel before the archangel Michael, who

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Speaker 1: if making him a knight. The kneeling man is now

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Speaker 1: rising to stand, explained Talbot excitedly. He's turning now I

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Speaker 1: can see his face. D waited with bated breath. My God,

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Speaker 1: gasped Talbot, he has your face, Sir John D's eyes

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Speaker 1: D and Talbot carried out numerous seances. Talbot was the

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Speaker 1: including Raphael and Gabriel, supposedly spoke to Talbot in sweet,

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Speaker 1: booming voices that D was sadly unable to hear. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: the angels would spell out characters to Talbot, which D

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Speaker 1: would transcribe. At one point, the apparent angel Gaines Abriel

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Speaker 1: Talbot then embarked on a quest to find the names

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Speaker 1: of what were said to be the forty seven Good Angels.

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Speaker 1: But first, according to Talbot, D would need to gain

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Speaker 1: fluency in their language, which was called Inochian, in order

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Speaker 1: Talbot told him they had to craft an angel scrying station.

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Speaker 1: It consisted of a nine inch wide carved wax seal

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Speaker 1: placed at the center of a square wooden table. Each

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Speaker 1: leg of that table was also placed on wax, and

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Speaker 1: the whole table anointed with oil. Talbot would then speak

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Speaker 1: these questions into the crystal ball, and the apparent angels

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Speaker 1: would reply through his fingers make them move along the

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Speaker 1: written down in the form of elaborate tables, each cell

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Speaker 1: containing a number and a letter. Each table purported to

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Speaker 1: explain topics such as the gain and trade of merchandise,

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Speaker 1: this way, varied and elaborate instructions were apparently conveyed to

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Speaker 1: the men by the angels. Some instructions related to contemporary

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Speaker 1: and unify Christendom. The archangel Michael himself was also said

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Speaker 1: to have revealed an important message about the relationship between

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Speaker 1: divine and earthly powers. Although Edward Talbot's supposed angelic transmissions

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Speaker 1: were sometimes only semi coherent, It's believed that Dee told

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Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth's key adviser, William Cecil, among others of the

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Speaker 1: most important insights. Though it isn't known exactly what was

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Speaker 1: conveyed in these meetings, they just so happened to coincide

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Speaker 1: with one of the greatest periods of English imperial expansion.

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Speaker 1: Throughout this period, John Dee, who was still revered for

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Speaker 1: his intellect and skills in cartography, developed close friendships with

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