WEBVTT - The A&G Wednesday Replay Hour Two

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 4>I saw an article in New York Times about the

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<v Speaker 4>Final Dead shows happening in San Francisco over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>They played Friday, Saturday, Sunday night final shows of their tour.

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<v Speaker 4>They said there's chances they'll get back together again for

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<v Speaker 4>a benefit or something, but they're never going to tour again,

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<v Speaker 4>they claim. I don't think they probably actually are. They've

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<v Speaker 4>made that claim many times over the years. They're very old. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Bubbweer's like Joe Biden old and I noticed him well

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<v Speaker 4>he was as an adult during the Summer of Love

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<v Speaker 4>in nineteen sixty seven. Yeah, that's one of the things

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<v Speaker 4>I want to bring up with this phenomenon. So, speaking

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<v Speaker 4>of it being a phenomenon, one of the reasons I

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<v Speaker 4>went was, it's a phenomenon. I haven't been to a

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<v Speaker 4>concert in I think fifteen years, so it had been

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<v Speaker 4>a long time. So I'd been to a concert and

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<v Speaker 4>Dead and Company was coming to the area. It's sixty

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<v Speaker 4>miles from my house, and I kind of thought about

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<v Speaker 4>it a couple of times. Then I looked at prices.

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<v Speaker 4>They're too high. Anyway, I finally decided, you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to do it. So I bought a ticket

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<v Speaker 4>two hours before, three hours before the show started, hopped

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<v Speaker 4>on my motorcycle, rode into San Francisco to the baseball line,

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<v Speaker 4>and and didn't even pay a ton for it. Luckily,

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<v Speaker 4>I think people started to panic. Some of the people

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<v Speaker 4>that had put I'll say you one for eight thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars for starting to panic if they had some left,

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<v Speaker 4>so it didn't get a bad price. Anyway, I was

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<v Speaker 4>trying to figure out while I was sitting there in

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<v Speaker 4>the concert, I was trying to figure out, what is

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<v Speaker 4>the phenomenon of the whole grateful Dead thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned. They've been doing this for.

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<v Speaker 4>Fifty five years, fifty seven years something like that, with

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<v Speaker 4>only a couple of exceptions. Every song they play is

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<v Speaker 4>fifty plus years old. They haven't created, they haven't created

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<v Speaker 4>anything new and forever, and the crowd and the place,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it was sold out, but I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't see any empty seats up in the stands.

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<v Speaker 2>The crowd varied.

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<v Speaker 4>There were lots of twenty somethings, there were lots of

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<v Speaker 4>thirty somethings, forty something, fifty something, sixty something, seventy somethings,

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<v Speaker 4>every age group there, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they created or why.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I was just looking around, trying to take

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<v Speaker 4>it all in, trying to figure out what what happened here?

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<v Speaker 2>Why has nobody else ever been able to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when we were in Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 4>North Carolina, the Grateful Dead came through in the mid nineties,

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<v Speaker 4>and I didn't know anything about the Grateful Dead. I've

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<v Speaker 4>never really been into the Grateful Dead. They came through town,

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<v Speaker 4>and I didn't go to the concert. I was at

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<v Speaker 4>a party that night at a house, and a number

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<v Speaker 4>of people had been to the Dead concert and they

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<v Speaker 4>This is pre internet, So in the Internet era, obviously

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<v Speaker 4>you can go online and check what the set list

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<v Speaker 4>is for every concert and they would be posted as

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<v Speaker 4>soon as the.

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<v Speaker 2>Concert is over.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is before the internet, so these guys would

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<v Speaker 4>run home and some of them took scraps of paper

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<v Speaker 4>and pens with them. Some of them are just using

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<v Speaker 4>their knowledge and they're sitting there at the kitchen table

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<v Speaker 4>at this party saying, okay, so what did they play

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<v Speaker 4>first set?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they opened with this, open with that.

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<v Speaker 4>They writing it all down, They kept the log of

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<v Speaker 4>all the concerts they'd seen in the set list in

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<v Speaker 4>a way.

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<v Speaker 2>That just I don't think happens that often with bands.

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<v Speaker 4>Part of it is they don't play that many songs

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<v Speaker 4>because each song is thirteen to fifteen minutes long. So

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<v Speaker 4>you play like four songs, take a break, play four

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<v Speaker 4>more songs, and your three hours are up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one weird aspect of the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>The other thing is they don't come out and say

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<v Speaker 4>a word, and never have, according to the New York Times,

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<v Speaker 4>they don't say, hey, Atlanta, good to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>There is one from the new while, you know, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for coming, or nothing. They don't see it.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>They wander out and start playing.

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<v Speaker 4>The wonder if start playing, and when they're done, they

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<v Speaker 4>walk off and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>And and from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>Another interesting thing is they've always encouraged people recording it

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<v Speaker 4>and posting live recordings, and they got gazillions alive albums

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<v Speaker 4>and just well, do you tell me what is different

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<v Speaker 4>about that band that allowed them to tour for fifty

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<v Speaker 4>some years. I was just looking up still one of

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<v Speaker 4>the top grossing concert tours out there.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't play that many shows, but they're making.

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<v Speaker 4>Gazillions of dollars, Yeah, in ticket sales and T shirt sales.

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<v Speaker 2>And everything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and one more thing before I let you you

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<v Speaker 4>answer the question, because you know more about it than

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<v Speaker 4>I do. So they walk out, they start playing, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's got a drum beat to it that I don't

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<v Speaker 4>quite recognize off the top of my head, because all

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<v Speaker 4>the songs kind of have a similar drum beat and

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<v Speaker 4>a similar thing, and everybody's twirling. All the girls are

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<v Speaker 4>twirling and thing, and then everybody's danced everything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Not a single person in that stadium that I saw

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<v Speaker 4>sat for one second three and a half hours. I've

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<v Speaker 4>never been to a concert like that. I've been to

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<v Speaker 4>plenty of concerts with people stand for the big hits,

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<v Speaker 4>then sit back down for a slow song or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Not a person I was expecting to get to sit

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<v Speaker 4>for a while. None of that happened. So they do

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<v Speaker 4>the drum beat, drumbeat, and they opened with the Buddy

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<v Speaker 4>Holly song that they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Regularly, probably not fade away. Yeah yeah, And so.

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<v Speaker 4>Then the drum, the drum stop, and then the whole

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<v Speaker 4>crowd in Unison.

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<v Speaker 2>Says I'm gonna tell you what I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna do it, and then everybody saying every word to

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<v Speaker 4>every song for three and a half hours, never said down.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never seen anything like that. Why is that? You

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<v Speaker 4>tell me why that is?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there are multiple books written to address that

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<v Speaker 3>very question, and they are book length, as books often are.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, I mean number one. At the beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>they were just a whale of a band. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>just a terrific band that was incredible. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a couple of sayings among musicians ragged but right

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<v Speaker 3>or loose but tight. They had a combination of being

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<v Speaker 3>extremely good and extremely loose and improvisational and and really

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<v Speaker 3>fun music to listen to if you're stoned. Plus, they

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<v Speaker 3>have a weird like hippie community thing going like, we're

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<v Speaker 3>all here, we're all friends, nobody's gonna get ugly, it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be great. Everybody's gonna enjoy themselves, nobody's gonna judge

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<v Speaker 3>anybody else. We're gonna listen to the jams and have

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<v Speaker 3>a great time, you know there, And there are actually

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<v Speaker 3>other bands that have it, you just don't hear about

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<v Speaker 3>it as much. Fish has an enormous following that's very grateful, deadlike,

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<v Speaker 3>and there are a couple others Dave Matthew's band.

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<v Speaker 4>Surely, but not on that scale for that long without

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<v Speaker 4>ever putting any nose.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, no, that's what's just like you.

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<v Speaker 4>And how do you grow new fans in their twenties

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<v Speaker 4>with fifty five year old songs?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's I don't know, well, part.

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<v Speaker 3>Of it's that the songs hold up pretty well and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a jam. Part of it's just there's an attraction

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<v Speaker 3>to being part of that that draws young people. The

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<v Speaker 3>whole i'm a hippie thing is hot amongst your your

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<v Speaker 3>twenty somethings, at least in some quarters.

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon for instance, right, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The people sitting next to me were from Oregon and

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<v Speaker 4>they were going to all three shows. Everybody around me

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<v Speaker 4>was going to all three shows. I was the only

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<v Speaker 4>one that was just going to the one show. And

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<v Speaker 4>it was a mom and dad roughly my age, with

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<v Speaker 4>their high school kids. They brought all their kids, and

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<v Speaker 4>their kids knew all the words every song.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's unlike anything I've ever been around.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been to.

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<v Speaker 4>I got plenty of acts that I like that do

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<v Speaker 4>that on a smaller scale, like there's several hundred people

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<v Speaker 4>that are that into it, but not hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 4>for six decades.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just yeah, I don't And then I wonder how.

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<v Speaker 4>Much of it was it like grew on itself, like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, becomes a thing, and a thing is that

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<v Speaker 4>it's nothing draws a cround like a crowd, that whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing, right, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's such an attractive like vibe, an attractive corner

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<v Speaker 3>of human kind that people who weren't there at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>or if you know, they didn't grow up with the

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<v Speaker 3>songs or whatever. Just the idea that that many people

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<v Speaker 3>could get together and have their energy be so positive

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<v Speaker 3>and a lack of conflict and a lack of people

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<v Speaker 3>being a holes like people tend to be, and listening

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<v Speaker 3>to the music and dancing and stuff. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 3>an attractive proposition and you know why, you know why,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's on a scale that nobody else has ever matched.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's hard, it's magic, it's culture, it's a vibe.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, at some point, surely we're going to sit

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<v Speaker 4>down during one of these slow songs, aren't we. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a Friday night, We've all worked all week long,

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<v Speaker 4>we're all a little tired on a lot of you

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<v Speaker 4>are way older than I am. Surely Nope, nobody was

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<v Speaker 4>sitting down at any point, even for a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I am a fan, I am not a dead head.

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<v Speaker 3>I have some good friends who are here. Is my

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<v Speaker 3>horrifying Well, I'm sorry, it's my impressive, but horrifying, grateful,

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<v Speaker 3>dead claim to fame. I was at Jerry Garcia's last

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<v Speaker 3>show before he died in Chicago. Did you play a role?

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<v Speaker 3>Or many years ago? And I fell sound asleep halfway

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<v Speaker 3>through it? Fell asleep because I may have been over served.

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<v Speaker 3>Fell It was well, yeah, okay, you call it what

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<v Speaker 3>you want. It was a very hot summer day in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, if.

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<v Speaker 3>Drinking beer and all getting rid of it and then

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<v Speaker 3>sitting there baking in the sun and Soldier Field just baking,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm surprised that I has this all been Maybe I'm dead,

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I died that day and this has all been

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<v Speaker 3>a prolonged illucination.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like.

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<v Speaker 4>Fifty five degrees in the middle of the concert for

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<v Speaker 4>this one, So yeah, I didn't have that problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you were better off, trust me. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>John Mayer plays guitar with a giant winter coat on

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<v Speaker 4>zipped up around his ears. The way he's flip flipping phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, John Mayer is just freaking unreal. Yeah

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<v Speaker 4>he's a monster, but he's not happy to have it

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<v Speaker 4>come to an end.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>There's not much said about why they decided to wrap

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<v Speaker 4>it up. New York Times went deep on that over

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<v Speaker 4>the weekend. But I didn't notice that Bob Weir, he

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<v Speaker 4>would play for a while and then he would take

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<v Speaker 4>his hand off and shake his hand a lot. And

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<v Speaker 4>I hadn't seen that in videos before, because I've watched

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of Dead and Company videos over the last

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<v Speaker 4>several years. Because I just like got into it when

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<v Speaker 4>John Mayer joined, which I know makes me something something

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<v Speaker 4>uncool among.

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<v Speaker 2>Real Dead advances. But Jerry come lately.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah something. But anyway, he wasn't doing that before. I

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<v Speaker 4>wonder if he doesn't have something that physical it's happening

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<v Speaker 4>and he just can't play every night like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Handful of my favorite musicians I've had to give it

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<v Speaker 3>up because arthritis.

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<v Speaker 2>About how are.

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<v Speaker 4>You standing up there for three and a half hours

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<v Speaker 4>and paying attention to what you're doing. I'm dying out

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<v Speaker 4>here standing for three and a half I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe they think about how much money they're making.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they enjoy playing music. Listen to you, y sink,

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<v Speaker 3>you couldn't be a deadhead. I'm surprised you weren't drummed

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<v Speaker 3>out of the stadium. I'm getting bad vibes from the

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<v Speaker 3>bald man over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, get out.

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<v Speaker 4>It was definitely the single best vibe at that scale

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<v Speaker 4>that I've ever been around in my life. And man,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a heck of a thing to pull off. I

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<v Speaker 4>doubt it'll ever be recreated, certainly, not for that length.

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<v Speaker 4>Not possible, Not in the modern world.

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<v Speaker 1>No, the Armstrong and Getdy Show, Yeah or Jack or

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<v Speaker 1>Joe podcasts and our hot links.

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<v Speaker 4>The New York Times with a hilarious long article about

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<v Speaker 4>pants and how wide pants are in now and skinny

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<v Speaker 4>pants are out, which it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 4>I read quite a bit of it just because I

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<v Speaker 4>found it hilarious how seriously they took this topic and

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<v Speaker 4>how in depth they went in The New York Times

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<v Speaker 4>about it. But anyway, that we then played a little

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<v Speaker 4>clip of Lyndon Baines Johnson, president of the United States

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<v Speaker 4>from sixty three to sixty eight, talking to his tailor

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<v Speaker 4>on the phone about his pants. And Katie had never

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<v Speaker 4>heard it before because Katie's new to the show. Roughly,

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<v Speaker 4>how long you've been here a year?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Time flies spikes.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is Lyndon made Johnson who had his pants

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<v Speaker 4>special made by a Taylor back in Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>And LBJ was a corn Pone.

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<v Speaker 4>That's actually what the Kennedy people called him, Colonel corn Pone.

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<v Speaker 2>To his face. That nice relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, from small town Texas, and he's talking to his

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<v Speaker 4>tailor about getting a new pair of pants ordered, and

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<v Speaker 4>it sounded something like.

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<v Speaker 5>This, Miss Tager, Joe Hagger, Joe is your father, the

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<v Speaker 5>one that makes clothes. Get there we're all together. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you all made me some real light weight slacks. Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>He just made up on his own sentimental four months ago.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a kind of a light brown and a light green,

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<v Speaker 5>rather soft green and soft brown, and the real light weight.

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<v Speaker 5>I need about six pairs were around in the evening

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<v Speaker 5>when I come in from work and I need about

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<v Speaker 5>a half inch too tight in the waist.

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<v Speaker 2>He would call it back there.

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<v Speaker 6>That didn't wanted to want me.

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<v Speaker 5>To get it right. Fault. You know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>You all just guessed out of my things sounded. But

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<v Speaker 5>once you have the measurements there for you, I can

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<v Speaker 5>send you a pair. I want him a half inch

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<v Speaker 5>larger in the waist than they were before, except I

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<v Speaker 5>want two or three inches of stuff left back in

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<v Speaker 5>there so I can take them up. I ury ten

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<v Speaker 5>or fifteen pounds a month. So leave me at least

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<v Speaker 5>two and a half thirt inches in the back where

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<v Speaker 5>I can let them out or take them up and

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<v Speaker 5>make these a half inch better in the waist, Make

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<v Speaker 5>the pockets at least an inch longer. Money, my money,

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<v Speaker 5>and my knife, everything fall out now, the pockets when

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<v Speaker 5>you sit down in the chair, the knife and your

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<v Speaker 5>money comes out, so I need at least another inch

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<v Speaker 5>in the pockets. Yeah. Now another thing with crouch down

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<v Speaker 5>where you hang is always a little too tight. So

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<v Speaker 5>when you make them up, give me an inch that

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<v Speaker 5>I can let out there, because they cut me. It's

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<v Speaker 5>just like riding a wire fence. These are almost the

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<v Speaker 5>best that I've had anywhere in the United States. But

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<v Speaker 5>when I gained a little weight, they cut me under there.

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<v Speaker 5>So leave me. You never do have much margin that

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<v Speaker 5>which see if you can't leave me about it an

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<v Speaker 5>age from the word of zippering and round under my

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<v Speaker 5>back of up hole so I can write it out

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<v Speaker 5>there if I need to. Now, be sure he got

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<v Speaker 5>the best zippers in them. These are good that I have.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you get those coming, I was sure be grateful.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go, at a historical moment, actual phone call

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<v Speaker 4>with president of the United States, and cut me like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm shitting on a wire fencer. Oh. The fact don't

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<v Speaker 2>leave me my margin. You gotta have margin.

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<v Speaker 4>The fact that he burps right before he uses the

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<v Speaker 4>word is my favorite part.

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<v Speaker 6>That is what that's one of my favorite pieces of amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh it shows you who he was. He was from

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<v Speaker 4>poor Texas hill country to his bones.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he was uh huh right, And.

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably worth the tip of the cap that he

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<v Speaker 3>was calling the Hagar family who became, you know, one

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<v Speaker 3>of the great clothiers of that time of history.

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<v Speaker 4>About five inches right back to my.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the best part of not crotch, you know where money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we know what a crotch is.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason people use the word crotch is so they

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to say where you're may.

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<v Speaker 2>Has some plain talk there can I tell you?

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<v Speaker 4>And if you're actually into you know, history and this

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<v Speaker 4>sort of stuff. The Carol book about the relationship between

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<v Speaker 4>LBJ and the Kennedy family is amazing because he just

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<v Speaker 4>heard who the guy was. That's way different than the

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<v Speaker 4>Kennedy clan, the Kennedys of Harvard. Yeah, yeah, Highenness Port

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<v Speaker 4>Kennedy's and their you know, golf clubs and tennis clubs

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<v Speaker 4>and that sort of stuff. No wonder they didn't get

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<v Speaker 4>along with when vice versa with LBJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, where their patrician accents and their crisp

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<v Speaker 3>suits and the rest of it with practically no margin

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<v Speaker 3>whether they're or banged at the time from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the same in the minimum. It's like riding

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<v Speaker 2>a rail fence. I mean, it's just, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>something my grandfather would say. Well, that's how I gained

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<v Speaker 2>some weight back. And it cuts me, cuts me.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Katie, you don't know this, probably, but Jack and

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<v Speaker 3>I have had a long running and bitter dispute. I

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<v Speaker 3>really like appetizers if I'm out to eat or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>He's got, like he's a member of ISIS. He's got

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<v Speaker 3>this militant anti appetite.

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<v Speaker 2>That's stupid. Just have the meal. Have the meal.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't need to have appetizers. And anyway, I won't

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<v Speaker 3>go any further because again we're not bad mouthing him, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and he is insane and unsupportable, some would say idiotic beliefs,

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<v Speaker 3>but Jack is anti appetizer. I, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 3>love appetizers, and in fact, Judy and I went to

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<v Speaker 3>a breast cancer fundraiser just last night and I bought

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<v Speaker 3>at probably excessive cost.

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<v Speaker 2>But It wasn't a purchase, it's a donation.

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<v Speaker 3>I bought an appetizer of the month club membership in

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<v Speaker 3>which some of the gifted chefs associated with this community slash.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a golf club.

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<v Speaker 3>They deliver to your home like a gourmet appetizer once

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<v Speaker 3>a month.

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. I know.

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<v Speaker 3>So like I'll say, yeah, can we do it this

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<v Speaker 3>coming Friday, And they'll say absolutely, And they'll show up

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<v Speaker 3>with like this brilliantly crafted stuffed mushrooms or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great excuse to have like friends over for

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<v Speaker 3>a glass of wine and stuff and we get the credit.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that is so cool. No, I know it.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So what kind of things do they offer? So

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<v Speaker 6>stuff mushrooms obviously, are there other Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I realized that this the very term has a negative connotation,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't know why they did, like a super

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<v Speaker 3>delicious cheeseball, one of those big cheeseballs you dig in

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<v Speaker 3>with the knife and put it on crackers.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was like home crafted, Oh cheeseball. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>good cheeseballs. Yeah, that sounds awesome to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And a friend, a friend of ours, actually bought

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<v Speaker 3>this last year. And I can't remember what else. They're

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<v Speaker 3>like a shrimp thing and various cannapis whatever that is,

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<v Speaker 3>but just super yummy like gourmet appetizers.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>See this sounds like I'm so excited to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I mean particularly, I mean it was several

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<v Speaker 3>hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, it's a donation out a purchase.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you look at what you spend to, like

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<v Speaker 3>go out for a nice dinner now, especially if you

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<v Speaker 3>have a bottle of wine or something like that, oh

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<v Speaker 3>lot of crap.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I'm happy to contribute.

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<v Speaker 3>Judy actually she quilted a thing, a golf cart seat

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<v Speaker 3>cover that fits like custom fits around the little what

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<v Speaker 3>do you call it, the hip rest things to keep

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<v Speaker 3>you from sliding off the end of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, so we made a nice donation too. It's a nice,

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<v Speaker 2>nice fundraiser anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>The game across this article playground bullies do prosper and

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<v Speaker 3>go on to earn more in middle age. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a five decade study that's thorough.

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<v Speaker 2>It britz.

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<v Speaker 3>Children who displayed aggressive behavior at school, such as bullying

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<v Speaker 3>or temper outbursts, are likely to earn more money in

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<v Speaker 3>middle age. According to a five decade study that upends

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<v Speaker 3>the maxim that bullies do not prosper any reaction to that,

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<v Speaker 3>Katie on the top of your head.

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<v Speaker 2>I can kind.

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<v Speaker 6>Of see where they're going with this, because the people

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<v Speaker 6>that are more outspoken maybe going further in business rather

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<v Speaker 6>than the meek that get picked on.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is one of the reasons I'm so militant

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<v Speaker 3>about in schools not making little boys act like little girls,

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<v Speaker 3>nor should you make little girls act like little boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Let them be themselves, but the idea that you're just

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<v Speaker 3>sit still and be quiet and just like the girls

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<v Speaker 3>are doing. Because as a youth coach, mostly in soccer,

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<v Speaker 3>I coach baseball and softball a little bit too, but

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<v Speaker 3>observing the difference between boys and girls, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>coached gosh. I coached eight year old boys, ten year

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<v Speaker 3>old boys, twelve year old boys, that sort of range,

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<v Speaker 3>and then fourteen year old girls was the oldest I

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<v Speaker 3>ever coached. But I would watch ten year old boys

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<v Speaker 3>and there are like fifteen guys on the team, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a nice like selection of different sorts of

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<v Speaker 3>human beings, and you could see, Okay, that kid is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a dynamic leader, but at age ten,

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<v Speaker 3>he's obnoxious because he has the tool, but he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>know how to wield it properly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just and I wish I'd thought about this more,

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<v Speaker 3>but I could give you more examples of just they're

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<v Speaker 3>all diamonds in the rough. I mean, some of them

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<v Speaker 3>are probably going to end up in jail or beating

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<v Speaker 3>their spouse or something like that. I mean, not everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>a diamond, but they're they're too much of everything. But

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<v Speaker 3>that's how you end up, I think with a good man.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very rare that a meek Well, no, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to I don't want to overstate this because some

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<v Speaker 3>people are just introverts. But we need to get back

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<v Speaker 3>to boys will be boys, and that that saying has

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<v Speaker 3>been perverted to mean allegedly so they can do anything

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<v Speaker 3>they want. But no, that's not what that saying means

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<v Speaker 3>at all. It means you have to put up with

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<v Speaker 3>the excesses of boyhood to end up with good men.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm a poor bullying but go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I like what you said too about they have

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<v Speaker 6>the tool, they just don't know how to use it yet.

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<v Speaker 6>Because you do, you might see a leader in this

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<v Speaker 6>ten year old. But that not yet because right now

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<v Speaker 6>they don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're they're loud and obnoxious, yeah, or they bully

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<v Speaker 3>for instance. Now, some bullies remain bullies in their a holes,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hate them and I hope they go to prison.

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<v Speaker 3>But some people, you know, this is if I have

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<v Speaker 3>told this story in ages. I remember the first time

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<v Speaker 3>I told this story. Now, gladys, do you play the

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<v Speaker 3>harp when I'm thinking about I'm looking back at telling

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<v Speaker 3>a story about looking back?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's there for Do you play the harp twice?

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<v Speaker 2>Or how does that work? Doesn't just go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>start talking. So I was, uh, I was having this

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<v Speaker 2>argument with a frenemy.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, he I was like the pitcher on the baseball team,

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<v Speaker 3>the high school baseball team, and he was the catcher,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was a really good catcher, really good ballplayer.

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<v Speaker 3>But he and I had this like two alpha dogs

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<v Speaker 3>thing going on, and so there was respect and all,

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<v Speaker 3>but we clashed. We clashed a fair amount and we

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<v Speaker 3>got We got into it one time verbally and he

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<v Speaker 3>said to me, and I wish I had I wish

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<v Speaker 3>I had written the quote down.

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<v Speaker 2>He said something like I'm not even going to get

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<v Speaker 2>into it with you because you'll cut me to bits.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought, he sees my verbal ability as a

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<v Speaker 3>tool of meanness and cruelty. And I thought, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to be that guy ever again. I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, unless somebody's got a coming. I decided, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I have the ability to hurt people with words. I

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<v Speaker 3>am never going to do that to an innocent victim.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe I've lapsed at times of loss of temper

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<v Speaker 3>or what have you in the intervening years, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>never thought of myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of it is I never thought of.

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<v Speaker 3>Myself as a bully, because I would never hurt anybody physically.

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<v Speaker 2>But I realized at that moment he used.

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<v Speaker 3>Me as some sort of verbal bully, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to be that and so and I

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<v Speaker 3>hate that. This is painful for me to admit that

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<v Speaker 3>I might have kind of been that quote unquote bully

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<v Speaker 3>who then grew up to not be a bully as

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<v Speaker 3>an adult.

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<v Speaker 6>That's interesting because when you said what when you quoted

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<v Speaker 6>what he said, I heard it as like you were

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<v Speaker 6>you have more of a verbal ability than him, not

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<v Speaker 6>that you're cruel with your words, but that you you

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<v Speaker 6>could verbally take him if you guys were to get

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<v Speaker 6>into an argument.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, right, I guess the subtlety of it is I

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<v Speaker 3>always saw it as like winning an argument as opposed

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<v Speaker 3>to leaving a victim. Okay, well, it's you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>the typical adolescent. It was self centered. I looked at

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<v Speaker 3>it from my point of view. I win and I

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<v Speaker 3>spanked him and sent him running. Yeah, but I hadn't

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<v Speaker 3>developed the compassion to really see it from the other

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<v Speaker 3>person's perspective. And like I say, if it's somebody trying to,

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<v Speaker 3>for instance, you know, like push experimental sex change procedures

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<v Speaker 3>on children, I'll rip them apart. If I can, I

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<v Speaker 3>will turn every skill. I have full blast for the

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<v Speaker 3>kid's sake. But like I said, no, no, nobody who

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have it coming, I just won't do that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And recognizing that about yourself too is a big thing,

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<v Speaker 6>because I have a very similar I like to call

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<v Speaker 6>it a sharp tongue.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially at all.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't have that one bit.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's something that I've been working on my whole life,

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<v Speaker 6>is realizing Yo, Okay, cool it because I know that

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<v Speaker 6>once it takes off bad news bears.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, right, you don't punch everybody who deserves it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and you don't, you know, strip them naked with your

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<v Speaker 3>verbiage if they don't deserve it either, even though you can.

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<v Speaker 2>And when they do, though, oh is it fun?

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<v Speaker 3>So now the temper outburst thing is interesting. They found

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<v Speaker 3>an increase in teachers observations of conduct problems such as

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<v Speaker 3>temper outbursts or bullying or teasing other children, was associated

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<v Speaker 3>with an increase in earnings of nearly four percent of

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<v Speaker 3>any given rise in conduct problems for boys or girls.

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<v Speaker 3>That compares to a six percent rise for higher cognition skills,

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<v Speaker 3>and so as a measure of who's going to do

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<v Speaker 3>well at least financially an old boy, now that I

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<v Speaker 3>think it, that's an interesting way to measure this anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>But being like hot tempered is almost as good an

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<v Speaker 3>indicator of being successful in life as being smart.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, based off how they put it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, wow, it's forty percent of six Well, I

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:21.919
<v Speaker 3>guess you could say fifty percent more likely, but you

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<v Speaker 3>see my point. Further analysis showed that by age sixteen,

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<v Speaker 3>those with conduct problems were more sociable as teenagers and

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<v Speaker 3>were more likely.

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<v Speaker 2>To smoke and be arrested at some point in their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there's that. Wow, So is it just being more

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<v Speaker 2>dynamic in general? I do not know. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They point out many people, many successful people, have had

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<v Speaker 3>various problems in school, like Winston Churchill. Various folks expelled, suspended,

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<v Speaker 3>who ended up being famous or successful or what have you.

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<v Speaker 6>Well like in today's news. I mean, look at Trump,

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<v Speaker 6>he's considered a bully.

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<v Speaker 3>He's probably Yeah, I think he's still a bully. It's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things I don't particularly like about him.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was thinking about Steve Jobs, genius, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>heard he was a complete bully. Oh yeah, that's right

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 3>at when. Yeah, I was picturing his youth. But yeah,

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 3>running Apple, he was absolutely was. Yeah. You know, maybe

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 3>this boils down to and this is an old, old message.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't make kids sit still and be quiet and all

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 3>act the same, because they're not the same. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>cynical view of education that modern education exists purely to

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 3>turn people.

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<v Speaker 2>Into rule following drones.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I certainly hope that's I know a

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of gifted teachers and that's not what they're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to do. But just to what, to whatever extent, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening, resist that a big yeah, we need more

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<v Speaker 3>kids who end up smoking getting arrested because the other

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 3>ones will be Winston Churchill.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's our takeaway here. What something like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Nailed that?

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<v Speaker 2>Your sweatshirt either says I p A or E p A.

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<v Speaker 4>I assume it says I p A like the beer,

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<v Speaker 4>and not E p A like the You're not wearing

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 4>a sweatshirt that you wouldn't catch me dead in an

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 4>EPA swatcher Environmental Protection Agency swag.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say how many how many agency

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 3>government agencies have swag?

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<v Speaker 2>I know the CIA and FBI. Do do they like

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 2>for public purchase?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely cool. I might have to get some of that.

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 2>I wear my FBI swag all the time and arrest people. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get the CIA stuff. I need you to

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 2>open your trunk. I bring them to justice. Open the trunk.

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<v Speaker 2>Please make lights on your car too. Who are you?

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll ask the questions? Do you open the trunk?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I see your badge, Can I see your hands

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<v Speaker 3>behind your back?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I tough them.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh so this, I hope this. I hope this works

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 4>what I'm about to do here. I came across this

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<v Speaker 4>last night and I laughed out loud several times. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's a guy with a kind of funny laugh and

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<v Speaker 4>this is pretty long. He speaking a different language. I

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 4>don't even know what language it is, but I don't

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<v Speaker 4>speak it. But it was still funny and I could

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<v Speaker 4>pick up on the universal cadence of telling a story.

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<v Speaker 4>And then he starts laughing about the story and then

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<v Speaker 4>filling in more details and continues to laugh, and the

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 4>other guy's laughing, and it just and then like, you know,

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 4>then you won't believe this, And then they I guess

0:31:57.680 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 4>that's what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't speak the language.

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<v Speaker 4>But if this is funny to you the way it

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<v Speaker 4>was to me, I think it says something about humor or,

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<v Speaker 4>because I've often thought people that are really really funny, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't they don't even need words.

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<v Speaker 4>Their timing is so good that the joke doesn't even

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.959
<v Speaker 4>have to even have to be a joke. The timing

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 4>is so perfect it's funny just with the timing. Yeah,

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 4>I suppose anyway, we'll see if this is funny or not.

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 4>You're not supposed to understand what this person is saying.

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<v Speaker 4>He's telling a story, right, good loud michaels.

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<v Speaker 7>Chank, no money, good say t me the interlope, the

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<v Speaker 7>on the bottle?

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<v Speaker 5>He won No.

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 7>Intern goes know my yet? Yeah, I drop into my.

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<v Speaker 5>I there you go. What I.

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<v Speaker 7>I got that buck?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I said.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell you by.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude is amused.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, I would like to have somebody translate

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 4>that story to me, because I just feel like at.

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Some point it was like and then no, you won't

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 2>believe this. Then she walks in with a canary on

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:11.839
<v Speaker 2>her head. Done yet.

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Her husband turns around and he says, but then the

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 3>dog comes into the room, and.

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<v Speaker 7>Hold on, I'm not done.

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 3>I just told the translation of that story, isn't They

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 3>were complaining about how loud my party was, so I

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 3>went to their home and murdered them all.

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 4>Or it's incredibly Yeah, it's incredibly graphic sexually or something.

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean just like racist or something.

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my god, here the record.

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<v Speaker 4>We got no idea what bro was saying that maybe

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 4>you should have run this by somebody who speaks whatever

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 4>language that is before.

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<v Speaker 2>Paynapping this out now. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus could be the most racist, sexist, overtly horrifying joke

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 4>you've ever heard in your life.

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<v Speaker 7>And then the.

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<v Speaker 2>Nazis, Oh, don't even say it. Boy. Dude's laugh was

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<v Speaker 2>just insane. Wait, it's thought, that was it. No, that's

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 2>not the end of it. Sounds like it must have

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<v Speaker 2>about a heck of a joke.

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<v Speaker 6>I think his laugh might have been what was making

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 6>you laugh, because it just just his laugh itself was

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 6>was funny?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I would clearly the infectious laugh had something

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<v Speaker 3>to do with it.

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<v Speaker 4>I would like to have the slightest idea what this

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 4>story was about, because it's got many tags, and just

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 4>when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's over, it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, exactly yeah that her husband, Her husband says, no, seriously,

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 3>this is what he said, right? Uh yeah, I wonder

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<v Speaker 3>can we run that through Google trams figure out what

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<v Speaker 3>sort of horror we've unleashed.

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<v Speaker 2>The closet and his mom is standing there and she says,

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<v Speaker 2>and just get going and going.

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