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Speaker 2: And we are Nay, hello and welcome to the Action

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Speaker 2: Network Podcast. I'm your host, Brandon Anderson. Here as all

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Speaker 2: is with Raheem Palmer to wrap up four awesome Divisional

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Speaker 2: round playoff games. We almost had all four road teams

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Speaker 2: win for the first time ever. Not quite. We did

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Speaker 2: have the lowest combined spread total for divisional weekend ever,

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Speaker 2: and it lived up to the hype. We ended up

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Speaker 2: with only fifteen points between all four games thanks to

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Speaker 2: that ridiculous blowout Sunday night at a six point victory

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Speaker 2: after the three field goal games. Rahim, was this the

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Speaker 2: greatest weekend of NFL football of your life?

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Speaker 1: I think it was. I mean, look, I had a

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Speaker 1: profitable weekend. I can't complain. I had a great time

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Speaker 1: watching some of these games. All of them came down

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Speaker 1: to the wire and we just got some unexpected stuff

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Speaker 1: that just happened. That just made it really exciting. So

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Speaker 1: you can't beat the NFL when it's at the top

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Speaker 2: And it somehow seemed to get better and better as

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Speaker 2: the weekend went along too. You know, last weekend, the

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Speaker 2: It wasn't really like super entertaining, but it was close.

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Speaker 2: It couldn't complain. And then as the weekend went on,

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Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, I guess that was our good

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Speaker 2: that's That's kind of how I felt again this weekend, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's it's interesting. I've got some things to say. Please

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Speaker 2: let the other games be better football. And it just

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Speaker 2: got better and better and better as the weekend went on.

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Speaker 2: So we will talk through all them. We're gonna go

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Speaker 2: in reverse order today, start with the big one Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk conference championship hot red at the end. And

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Speaker 2: that's basically it. No Monday Net Football anymore. We're down

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Speaker 2: only three games left on the season. Odds Today from BETMGM,

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Speaker 2: So we got to start with the instant classic at Arrowhead.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs win forty two to thirty six. In overtime.

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Speaker 2: We went over, we went away over, the Chiefs get

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Speaker 2: the cover. Of course, we'll go through everything, but obviously

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Speaker 2: it's closelate, We're back and forth. We saw twenty five

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Speaker 2: points in the final two minutes. The Chiefs get the

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Speaker 2: ball in overtime and don't give it back, walk it

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Speaker 2: off with the touchdown to Kelsey. This was an awesome,

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Speaker 2: awesome game. Cancel the rest of the season and just

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Speaker 2: let these teams play two more like best of three,

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Speaker 2: best of five. We get like an NBA series going here.

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Speaker 2: This was awesome. This felt like the championship. We'll see,

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Speaker 2: we'll see what happened to the Chiefs. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: it is, but this was every bit the heavyweight fight

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, without a doubt. I mean, even from the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So that first quarter, those first two drives, just

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Speaker 2: First drive, the Bills are driving right down the run

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I got that filling on the first drive. But

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing. It felt like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that drive is just Mahomes is in god motor right now.

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Speaker 2: He had one of those classic Mahomes plays where he scrambles,

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Speaker 2: And then suddenly the first half just flew by after that,

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Speaker 1: I still felt like this was anyone's game, But I

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Speaker 1: all right, this is the promposition for the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: to continue to take over. And they end up punting,

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Speaker 2: As I said, not everyone can be Brandon Stalely.

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Speaker 1: The thing I had a problem with was the fact

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Speaker 1: Buck Kiss misses the extra point and I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 1: right back. Gabriel Davis catches the seventy five yard pass.

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Speaker 1: Josh Oh, he was incredible today. You can't say enough

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. Yeah. It again, it

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Speaker 2: felt like, Oh, the Chiefs dealt the knockout blow there.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the AFC champs. You know, they put them away.

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Speaker 2: Mikole Hardman, that was an awesome run. Just like that,

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Speaker 2: It feels like, all right, there's some distance and yeah

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Speaker 2: I've seen this Chiefs game this season. I watched that

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Speaker 2: they put it away, but the defense left the back

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Speaker 2: And we saw Josh Allen walt through that door over

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Speaker 2: but then there was offsetting penalties. They kick it again

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Speaker 2: But then you hated the play the third down and

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Speaker 2: I hate when it's third and one, fourth and one, whatever,

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Speaker 2: What are you doing? Don't take the ball out of

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Speaker 2: pack picking Mahomes' hands. They run an option with their

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Speaker 2: tight end. Too creative. Well let's settle down instead, they

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Speaker 2: and I'm feeling like, Okay, that was a decision that

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Speaker 1: No, I actually actually have to go back a little

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Speaker 1: further than that, because to me, it felt like the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs had another chance to deliver another knockout blow. Right

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Speaker 1: after the Bills scored it was twenty one to twenty three.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs got the ball back and they're actually driving.

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Speaker 1: They're in Buffalo territory. It's four and five from the

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Speaker 1: Why aren't you going for it? If you score there

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Speaker 1: a touchdown there, like you make it a two score game.

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Speaker 2: really really screwed the game up for them. But the

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Speaker 2: Rams take the huge lead early, the Bucks come all

433
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Speaker 2: the way back. The Rams get the late field goal

434
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: after the cup catches, and when at thirty to twenty

435
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 2: seven they get the cover and the plus one twenty

436
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 2: in the money line. Obviously another over here, So back

437
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: the beginning. The Rams are just all over the Bucks

438
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 2: early early on as the Rams score and then a're

439
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: in the back gield on every single play. I feel

440
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 2: like Brady's under pressure every play. How quickly were you

441
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: very worried for Tampa Bay.

442
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Speaker 1: I came into this game actually liking the Rams because

443
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Speaker 1: I felt like, coming into this game, we know about

444
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,719
Speaker 1: the offensive want injuries for the Tampa Bay bucket years.

445
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: We knew that against Von Miller and Aaron Donald, they

446
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Speaker 1: would be able to call some pressure for Tom Brady.

447
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: You know, I love Tom Brady's one of my favorite

448
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 1: players of all time. He can get the job done

449
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 1: with anybody. But at some point, when you don't have

450
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: your offensive line against this dominant pass rush, which is

451
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Speaker 1: first in ESPN's pass rush one week, you're gonna have

452
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Speaker 1: some issues. And I think we saw that early. I

453
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Speaker 1: actually took the first half under.

454
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Speaker 2: Locked in that one.

455
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Speaker 1: I've really looked it into that one. This is one

456
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Speaker 1: of the first games that I've seen in the playoffs

457
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: where it felt like Tom Brady's team weren't getting the calls.

458
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: So you had the Rams come down kick a field goal,

459
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: next possession, Tampa Bay punts and then it looks like

460
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: the Rams are driving and you get to do would

461
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 1: consue sack on Matthew Stafford and they end up calling

462
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Speaker 1: a taunting penalty because he's pointing his finger at Matthew

463
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: Stafford saying don't kick me. So that ends up leading

464
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Speaker 1: to a touchdown Tampa Bay to come back down a

465
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Speaker 1: field goal. That kind of stars the momentum. You're starting

466
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Speaker 1: to feel like, Okay, Tampa Bay's in this game. They

467
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Speaker 1: actually get another sack of Matthew Stafford. It's third and twenty.

468
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: We have the blown coverage on Cooper Cup. He's wide open,

469
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: seventy yard past. It's seventeen to three. Next possession, Tampa

470
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: Bay punts and you're thinking the Bucks may might be

471
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Speaker 1: out of this one.

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Speaker 2: Definitely felt like they're out of that one. You know,

473
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 2: scott Hockey League had a podium game from himself early

474
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: at referee just just ridiculous calls. I mean literally, Tom

475
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: Brady has played football for like seven decades and ed

476
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 2: never in his life had an unsportsmanlike call. That has changed.

477
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: He now has one because apparently Brady gave gave Hi

478
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 2: him a little bit too much lep literally bloody a

479
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 2: lip because he actually taken a hit on it and

480
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 2: complained about it. So he gets his fifteen yards probably

481
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: should have been fifteen yards against the Rams if you

482
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: call that penalty, it's easy to look at the end

483
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: of the game and say, oh, well, as a tie game,

484
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: then take away those penalties early and the one. That's

485
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 2: not my takeaway here, but it certainly didn't help that

486
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: the Bucks were getting buried by these calls early on

487
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 2: twenty minutes in and they had three fifteen yard penalties already,

488
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: and twice this game they kicked it at a bounce.

489
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: That's just a penalty, Like, that's not a bad call,

490
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: but that's just a huge loss of special teams yardage.

491
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 2: The Rams were dominating all three phases here. Their defense

492
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: was all over them. The Bucks offensive line was just

493
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 2: a mess. Kristin Wurfs was out, and I actually ended

494
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: up just buying out of my Bucks position. I was

495
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: fading when you and I talked about this on the

496
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: last podcast. I was fading in my belief on Tampa.

497
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 2: When Worse went out. I was like, you know what,

498
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm out. I don't know what to expect

499
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: from either line when they're both missing such a key player.

500
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: And the Rams line held up pretty well, I think

501
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: in part because the Bucks pass rushers just weren't healthy enough.

502
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 2: They just weren't getting a lot of pressure on. But

503
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 2: the replacement for the Bucks not getting the job done,

504
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: Donovan Smith not a replacement, Absolutely horrible. I left Tacka

505
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: like he was just a turnstyle von Miller just coming

506
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: on through like classic old Denver Broncos von Miller phase.

507
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: Rams offense looked good. Ram's special teams certainly played better.

508
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 2: This was just a game where for two thirds of

509
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 2: the game, the Rams were way better, and they were

510
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: way better at everything.

511
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you know, as good as they were,

512
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: the Rams just didn't put this game away. Right before halftime,

513
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Speaker 1: you had the Tom Brady interception, which really pissed me

514
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Speaker 1: off because I have that first half under twenty four

515
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: and the Rams get the ball in Tampa Bay territory.

516
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: You have the fumble from cam Akers at the one

517
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: yard line with ten seconds to go. Tampa Bay is

518
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: able to basically kneel on it, and I hit my

519
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: first half under. We had a lot of celebration on

520
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: Twitter for those guys who trailed me. I appreciate it.

521
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: But you know, coming out of halftime, the Rams actually

522
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: pumped in the first possession and you're thinking, this is

523
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: Tom Brad on of the end you gotta they got

524
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: the momentum. Tampa Bay doesn't do anything with the first possession,

525
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: Rams end up scoring our next possession. It's twenty seven

526
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Speaker 1: three in the third quarter. I'm thinking this is over.

527
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Speaker 1: What are you think?

528
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm totally thinking it's over. I'm writing my eulogy

529
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 2: for the Bucks already. Here's my notes at that point. No,

530
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: At number one, I thought it looked like both left

531
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: Wich and Bulls were coaching like they spent all week

532
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 2: interviewing for other jobs. They just got very out coached

533
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: this game. And you know, the the Rams coaches have

534
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: had the number of the Bucks coaches in this matchup,

535
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: and sometimes you just get that in various coaching matchups,

536
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: less than number two. Hard to repeat. The champs played

537
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: a long, griuland schedule last year. They came into the

538
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: year as clear favorites with you know that, just a

539
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: roster that was loaded. They brought back everyone, all twenty

540
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: two starters. But literally from week one, from the opening

541
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: game of the season, the injuries start piling up, and

542
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: they piled up at corner and on a line, two

543
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: of the places where you really can't hide and do

544
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: anything about it. They got them at some of the

545
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 2: skill positions. This just wasn't the team I was supposed

546
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: to be. That's why it's really hard to repeat. Like

547
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: you've got a long schedule and everyone's coming at you.

548
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: This was about the Bucks just didn't have it anymore.

549
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: This just wasn't the Bucks team we were supposed to

550
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: be hoping for. This was the shell of whatever was left.

551
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 2: And it wasn't to me that the Rams were this

552
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: absolute jugger not burying them. It's what the scoreboard said,

553
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: But it was just that the Bucks they just didn't

554
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: have anything left. They were a heavyweight fighter that had

555
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: given everything and they were just gassed.

556
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: And even looking at them like they were gas. To me,

557
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: I just felt like injuries destroyed this team. And then

558
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: one of the things that stood out to me is

559
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: the Bucks couldn't block the Rams with their offensive line issues,

560
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: but they really needed another weapon. And I said to myself,

561
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: it's like they would have been better off just letting

562
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown be their Dennis. When it comes to team sports,

563
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: you got to understand it. There's gonna be a black sheet,

564
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a guy who's callsing problems. I'm a

565
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: fan of the Cowboys, So I've seen it with my

566
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: The most successful years of my Cowboys fandom has been

567
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys were at their most troublesome, and they

568
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: could have used Antonio Brown today, they just didn't have

569
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: the weapons. This game turned on his head at some point.

570
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. For me, the real turning point, I thought was

571
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: the Cooper Cup fumble. So we had that the cam

572
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 2: Akers fumbled just before the half where it should have

573
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: been twenty seven to three at the half, and it's

574
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: basically game over at that point. I kind of felt

575
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: like it was still game over. It felt like it

576
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: was just prolonging the misery at that point. But then

577
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: the Cooper Cup fumble comes. Bucks get a touchdown, so

578
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: I think they're up to thirteen. At this point, I

579
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: still feel like it's over. The Bucks offense has really

580
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: not had a real drive yet. They haven't really done

581
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: a whole lot. But the Rams go three and out.

582
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: The crowd is roaring, it's the start of the fourth quarter.

583
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: We all know Tom, we all know he can come

584
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: back from twenty eight to three, and they get the

585
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: ball back. I think the very first play on their drive,

586
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: Brady gets hit strip sack and it's back to being

587
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: over again, except on the very next play, Matt Stafford

588
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: rears his ugly head and enters the chat. They snap

589
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: it over his head is not looking thirty yards backward

590
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: and the Bucks recover just like like you said, a

591
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: classic Tom Brady sequence to blow the game. And then

592
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: it turns out you basically strip Sack fumbled himself thirty

593
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: yards forward for the drive. But then they get nothing

594
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: out of it anyway, And on top of it, they

595
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: get that weird bang bang call fourth down. They go

596
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: for it correctly. They throw it deep to Mike Evans,

597
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: no penalty. It is a correct no call, except that

598
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: afterwards there is a late hit by Eric Weddle AND's

599
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: a bang bang play if the ball, if if Evans

600
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: doesn't touch the ball, then maybe the ball like hits

601
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: the Rams guy and bounces up in the air. The

602
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: Bucks probably win this game, right.

603
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: Like, the penalty doesn't even make any sense. They say

604
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: it was after the play Weddell was launching himself into

605
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: Mike Evans before the ball hits the ground, But because

606
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: the ball hits the ground first, they say it was

607
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: after the play was over, which was completely goofy. And

608
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: if you're all for player safety. You're trying to protect players.

609
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: Certainly should have been a first down for Tampa. I agree,

610
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: you got it, Like that's a rule change coming. And

611
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: let's be fair here. The Rams have been on the

612
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: wrong end of more than a few pivotal rule change

613
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: moments in the playoffs, so maybe this is just the universe,

614
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: you know. Finally, Tom's been on the right hand of

615
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: about like forty over the years. So Tom finally had

616
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: to give one back to their Rams. Maybe that's all

617
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: it was. But yeah, Brady, just under pressure all game long.

618
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: The Rams then get another drive and I'm thinking, okay,

619
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna put this one away any points now, it's

620
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: a fourteen point game, even a field goal back to

621
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: three scores, game over. They missed the field goal, so

622
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: we still have the game. It's still open, still not

623
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: really open, and the right really can't let the Bucks

624
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: haven't done anything yet.

625
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they still haven't done anything. The Bucks get the

626
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: ball and they turn it over on downs again. It's

627
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: four minutes left there, down fourteen darre in Rams territory.

628
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: They turn it over on downs like you're like, okay,

629
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: this game's over. And then the Rams get the ball back.

630
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: They pretty much go three and out and they punt,

631
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: Brady gets the ball. They score in pretty much a minute.

632
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: You got the bomb to to Mike Evans.

633
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: Avans beats Jalen Ramsey one on one and plays the ball. Well,

634
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: it gets a touchdown. Rams get the ball back. We're

635
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: still up seven, We're still fine. And then two plays

636
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: later they're trying to hand it off. You know, you know,

637
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: they're not letting Matt Stafford do at this point, that's

638
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: the last thing they're doing. Just hand it off, run

639
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: the ball, and then Akers fumbles it and the Bucks

640
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: recover in field goal range already, but they need a touchdown,

641
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: and oh my god, the Bucks have a chance. Now

642
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: they drive down. I think we get the fourth down

643
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: and they go for it. They have to go for it.

644
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: I thought Tom's gonna sneak, because Tom is like thirty

645
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: eight or thirty nine or whatever lifetime. I think the

646
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: Rams probably thought he's gonna sneak too, and they get

647
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: it off to playoff. Lenny he Waltz is in for

648
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Speaker 2: the touchdown. We're tied with forty three seconds left.

649
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Speaker 1: And you know the crazy thing about that Rams possession

650
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: is it looked like cam Akers was actually going to

651
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Speaker 1: break it, and he gets right to the first down

652
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: and that's when he fumbles, and you know, one first

653
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: top down actually ends the game because the Bucks didn't

654
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Speaker 1: have any more time outs left at that point. So

655
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Speaker 1: it's todd At this point, you're just thinking Tom Brady's

656
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Speaker 1: gonna do this again. On the first play of the

657
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: Rams drive, Matthew Stafford fumbles it and it's like, oh

658
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: my god, there's no way that this is going to happen.

659
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: So I think he did that himself. I think that

660
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: he looked up the middle, saw there was nothing there.

661
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Speaker 2: I think the Rams were gonna kind of play somewhat

662
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: conservative and just try to run the clock, make sure

663
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: that they didn't give the Bucks the ball back. I

664
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: think he just called his own number, goes right up

665
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: the middle like takes like the one step drop and

666
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: immediately goes and then fumbles and the one piece of

667
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: luck they finally get all a game, it basically lands

668
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Speaker 2: on the ball. Otherwise this is just an all time

669
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: epic Cholls like for them to lose in overtime here

670
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: it would have been one thing, but to do that

671
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Speaker 2: and fumble it away and then lose in regulation after

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Speaker 2: twenty seven to three.

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Speaker 1: This would have been worse than like There's disiness and

674
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Speaker 1: all time postseason comebacks. This would have been worse than

675
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Speaker 1: twenty eight three, worse than Frank Wright in the Buffalo

676
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Speaker 1: Bills coming back against war Moon. This would have been

677
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Speaker 1: the worst I've ever seen.

678
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Speaker 2: I have to give credit here to Sean McVay. If

679
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: I just saw my quarterback follow his own number, run

680
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: up the middle and nearly fumble literally my season away.

681
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Speaker 2: The guy I traded my entire franchise of picks four.

682
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: I'm taking a knee. I'm going to overtime, and I'm

683
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: gonna try to catch my breath and try again. I'm

684
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: certainly not letting my quarterback drop back and throw. But

685
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 2: you play to win the game. Dafford drops back, and

686
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: you're only going to one guy at this point, it's

687
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: Cooper Cup. To hit Cooper Cup down the sideline, he

688
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 2: gets the ball, he gets out of bounds. The next play,

689
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: drop back and goes over the top to Cooper Cup again.

690
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: I didn't think about it at the time, but Antoine

691
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: Winfield should have let him score, right because at least

692
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: then you get a chance like you should let him score.

693
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Speaker 2: And I mean, look, the Chiefs got the ball tonight

694
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Speaker 2: with thirteen seconds left and had a chance and scored Winfield.

695
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: Lets him score, you at least have a shot. He

696
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 2: tackles him. The Rams sprint down the field. I always

697
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: think it's so dumb, like if there's a play twenty

698
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: yards or more, twenty five more, I don't know what

699
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: the number is, you should just have like everything should

700
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: stop for ten seconds, Like the clock shouldn't just keep

701
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: on going. Because how many times do you see a

702
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: team never get up to the line and you have

703
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: to call time out or get the delay of game.

704
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: I always think that's ridiculous to the Rams for being

705
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: aggressive and forgetting all the way down the field lining

706
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: up bit the ball they're bringing on the kicker they

707
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: make the field goal. The head of the NASC Championship game.

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Speaker 1: Got to call out Todd Bowles for that play call

709
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: because we saw the Rams kicker miss a forty seven

710
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: yard field goal, and I know that Cooper Cup was

711
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: like he caught the pass at the forty four yard line.

712
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: Bucks were thinking and Tom Bowles were thinking that if

713
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: they get fifteen more yards they can ice this game.

714
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: But to call a slot blitz and leave a safety

715
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: solely responsible for Cooper Cup. To me, that was just

716
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: the worst decision I've ever seen, And I just don't

717
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: understand how you're that aggressive in that situation when to me,

718
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: you have a dominant pass rutch. There's no reason to

719
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: call that slot blitz. They said the Rams kicker got

720
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: hurt before a pregame. A fifty yard field goal is

721
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: not a gimmy. So it's just to me that was

722
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: the play call that truly cost the Bucks the game,

723
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Speaker 1: because look, I know Cooper Cup is difficult to guard,

724
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: but you just made it too weasy and I felt

725
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: like it was frustrated and watching real time.

726
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I would put I'd take it further.

727
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: A fifty yard field goal is not a gimme. I'm

728
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: not even positive they try a fifty yard field goal,

729
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: Like they may not even think that's in his range.

730
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: If he's worried about kicking it short. You may not

731
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: want to give up a chance at a return if

732
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: his leg can't quite handle it. Like you got to

733
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: be playing a pre event thinking that you just need

734
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: to keep them like outside of the thirty really, and

735
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: you probably have a good shot at heading to overtime.

736
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 2: You have to like your chances in overtime the way

737
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: that the Rams are melting down. And look, the Rams

738
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: literally two weeks ago had this exact same meltdown to

739
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers on their home field, like they

740
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 2: just did this. Matthew Stafford has had more than a

741
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 2: few meltdowns like this against good teams. So you have

742
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 2: to know if you got Tom Brady on one side

743
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: and the Champs versus the meltdown happening on the other side,

744
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: you got to feel good about it. So I agree.

745
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: Rough look for Todd Bowles just I mean, that's that's him.

746
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: That's him and Bruce Arians they're aggressive to the max

747
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 2: and it got him here. Tom Brady for the game,

748
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: credit to the old man. He wasn't good. He was

749
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: under pressure all game. It wasn't all on him. But

750
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 2: negative point two two epa per play, that's rough. That's

751
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: her rough look, negative ten completion over expectation. Matt Stafford

752
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: numbers obviously much better. You know this. We talked on

753
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: our last podcast. I said this felt like it could

754
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: turn out to be the opposite of the Super Bowl,

755
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: where the Bucks now were the team that had the

756
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 2: quarterback and nothing else, And it did feel a lot

757
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: like that this game where just Brady just never had

758
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 2: any time. He kind of ran out of weapons. The

759
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 2: defense wuldn't get the job done, and just like, well,

760
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: you can't play quarterback by yourself. You need someone to

761
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: give your time and someone to get open. And he

762
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: wasn't good, but he wasn't given much opportunity.

763
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like even like in the third quarter,

764
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: right before a punt, Tyler Johnson dropped a wide open

765
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: catch the pretty much into drive and it's just like

766
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: you just had situations like that all day. Obviously they

767
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: couldn't block, so it was just tough. But look, Tom Brady,

768
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what he does. I don't know what

769
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: type of voodoo his wife does, but for whatever reason,

770
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: he's always in these games. And there's just this sense

771
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: of inevitability with Tom Brady because at some point he's

772
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: gonna start playing well enough, and if you just leave

773
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: the girl open for him, he's gonna he's gonna run

774
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: through that door. And he almost got there today. So

775
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: it's just for me, it's always inspired and watch him

776
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: play or whatever whatever's going on with his team, they

777
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: just always they always find a way to stay in

778
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: these games like it's just it's incredible to really watch.

779
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: There was and there was some buzz in this game

780
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: and near the end that maybe this was it for Brady. Boy.

781
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: There is some symmetry if that is it, if he

782
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: go like Brady got Brady. You know, he came all

783
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 2: the way back and rather than being safe and going

784
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: for overtime, the other team's quarterback threw a couple of

785
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: plays down the field. They have the field goal. That's

786
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: where the legend of Tom began. So there is kind

787
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: of an interesting symmetry. But the man is so competitive

788
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: in to end the season that way. To have come

789
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: all the way back and then not get to touch

790
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: the ball again after that, I have a hard time

791
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 2: believing he's gonna step away after that. I hope he doesn't.

792
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: You know, he's so good. He was an MVP Canada

793
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: all year. Hopefully see him again. Other takeaway from this

794
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: game the Rams still cannot run the ball. Cam Akers

795
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 2: had twenty four carries for forty eight yards. He had

796
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 2: two monster fumbles. I don't know how they're gonna get

797
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: any running game or rely on any running game next week.

798
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: So that's a big problem. But for you, bottom line

799
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: for this game. Was this a bigger Does tell you

800
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: more about the Rams? Does this tell you more about

801
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: the Bucks?

802
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: I think this told me more about the Buccaneers. I

803
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 1: think you saw that within the betting markets as well,

804
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: Like this line actually got down to two and a

805
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: had and I think a lot of it had to

806
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: do with professional selling on the Buccaneers who had their

807
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: offensive line issues and for the Buccaneers to be able

808
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: to make this a game. It's said a lot about

809
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: what the Rams are and still I still can't totally

810
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: trust the same. So yeah, those concerns are going to

811
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: be there next week.

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00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. This told me that the

813
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: Bucks just didn't have anyone left. Credit to the Rams.

814
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: They got the job done. We're not taking anything away

815
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Speaker 2: from them, but the fact that the Rams beat up

816
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: on a bad Cardinals team that had fallen apart at

817
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: the end of the year and a Bucks team that

818
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: just didn't have many bodies left. I'm not quite ready

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00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,120
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Speaker 2: All right. So Saturday night was the big one for

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Speaker 2: me and you. We were all in on the forty

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Speaker 2: the weekend. Closed at five and a half about two

860
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: hundred on the money line. Game went way under, not

861
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: much scoring, so the Packers come out. This is a

862
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: classic Lambeau game, zero degrees basically throughout the game, just

863
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: like Aaron Rodgers prefers from his medical advisors, by the way,

864
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: zero degrees. So the Packers come out, they get the

865
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: long opening drive. They're chewing up the clock. They get

866
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: the uncalled block in the back, you know, because that's

867
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: what the Packers do at home. They never get the

868
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: penalties called on them. Davante has three touches of the

869
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: first drive. They're doing anything they want, touchdown, Packers seven

870
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: to nothing. The Niners get the ball fall start, they

871
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: get the third downs that Darius Smith gets the sack.

872
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: Packers get the ball back. They're driving again. At this point,

873
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: I'm already to bury my bet, all my futures, and

874
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: the Niners are done. The Packers are about to absolutely

875
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: slaughter them. And ten minutes into the game, it's already

876
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: over right, yeah.

877
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: And then I mean, obviously you get the fumble from

878
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: Mercedes Lewis, Brad Warner knocks it out, Drake Greylaw picks

879
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: it up, and you're thinking the four nine ers are

880
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: back in this. But the offense just can't get it,

881
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: can't get it going. Jimmy Garoppolo gets sacked, you get

882
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: a three and out. They point it again, and the

883
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, you pretty much have a pop fest.

884
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, And even after that Mercedes Lewis fumble. The very

885
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: next two plays, the forty nine Ers turn it over

886
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: on both of them, but they get overturned. Otherwise the

887
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: game could have basically been put away multiple times right away.

888
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: But the Niners are on life support. They're getting nothing

889
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: first four drives, they're at negative ten yards, no first downs.

890
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: But it's at that point after that Mercedes Lewis fumble,

891
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: the Niners defense woke up. Demiko Ryans, the Niners defensive coordiner,

892
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: had himself a game. The defensive line, Nick Bosa Eric

893
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 2: Armstead each had two sacks. Monster game for them. Packers

894
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: O line that has normally been very reliable was not

895
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: looking good. David Bochterary was a late scratch in this

896
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: one and that was a huge factor here. So after

897
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: that Mercedes Lewis fumble, the Niners were still were still

898
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: only twelve percent to win the game on win probability.

899
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: But here's what happened on the yardage after that. The

900
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: Packers had a seventy five yard catched Aaron Jones right

901
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: before the half. Other than that play, Green Bay ran

902
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: thirty eight other plays for eighty six yards the entire

903
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 2: rest of the game two point three yards per play

904
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: for the league's number one offense. That is a heck

905
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 2: of a showing for the forty nine ers defense.

906
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, without a doubt. And it's just

907
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: they cover for their offense so well. And you look

908
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 1: at the forty nine ers. They were about to score

909
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: before the end of the half and Jimmy Garoppolo it

910
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: looks like he has a wide open George Kittle. He

911
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: underthrows it and it's an interception, and it's just like,

912
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, you're looking at this game. It's like,

913
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: when are you gonna score? Then you know you have

914
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: the broken play to Aaron Jones and it looks like

915
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: Green Bay is gonna go up ten and they blocked

916
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 1: the field goal. So you're going into the half seven

917
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: nothing as a forty nine Ers better. You can't be

918
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 1: happier than what you saw at that point.

919
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, Like the game should have been over every

920
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: direction by now. And I actually know that too watching live.

921
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: I tweeted those out. I doubled down at the half

922
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: because what I saw on that last drive. So the

923
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: very last drive, George Kittle got to catch a really

924
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: good play gets the catch the first first down of

925
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: the game for the Niners. They're moving the ball, and

926
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: the thing you noticed after that, for whatever reason, I

927
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: don't know why, but the Niners had not done much

928
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: motion pre snap motion before that drive. They get the

929
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: cut of Kittle first down, and after that is when

930
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: they finally get the run game going, and you see them.

931
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: They line up, they motion one guy over, they put

932
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: Kittle or another guy in motion and sweep run that

933
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: way and they're getting these six yard chunk plays of runs.

934
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: That is classic Kyle Shanan football. They didn't do that

935
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: for the first like twenty twenty five minutes. After that,

936
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: I thought that last drive, even though they didn't get points,

937
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 2: I saw something there. So I actually was plus three

938
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: sixty on the money line at half. I took it.

939
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: I thought that this was shaping up like a classic

940
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 2: Packers playoff game where they left the door open. They're

941
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 2: making these mistakes. We knew that the run defense wasn't good.

942
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: We knew they had the worst special teams in the NFL,

943
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: and we're seeing those mistakes crop up. And you know,

944
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, you can't make too many of those mistakes.

945
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: So it's going to come back to bite you. So

946
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: the second half starts and like what happened with Tyreek Hill,

947
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: they put Deebo back to return the kick, and Deebo

948
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: returns it out to the fifty. It just has himself

949
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: a drive. He got a catching a run after he

950
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: gets the ball a couple times on a handoff. We're

951
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: getting it right down into the red zone. The Niners

952
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: about to score a touchdown and tie this thing up,

953
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: but of course it's in Lambeau, so penalty on whatever

954
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: it is. The Rafts feel like calling because they just

955
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: have a button that the fans pressed whenever the Packers

956
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 2: needed a penalty. That's you know, you talked about it.

957
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: They have the best home field advantage in sports, and

958
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: the penalties are a big part of that. That's the

959
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: fans just you know, giving them, giving them the medicine.

960
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: So they settle for a field goal. Seven to three

961
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: at that point, but you still are feeling pretty solid

962
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: about the nine is at this point compared to what

963
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: could have gotten.

964
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're really filling solid. Green Bay punts

965
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. They also punt they get another three

966
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: and now so it's just a defensive minded game and

967
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: you're kind of just waiting for somebody to make play,

968
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: and then you kind of look up and it's like, okay,

969
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: Anon Rodgers, DeVante Adams. They get down to the San

970
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: Francisco twenty four yard line, and this is the danger territory.

971
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: You're thinking, Anon Rodgers and the Packers are gonna punch

972
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: it in. It looks rough because obviously you got the

973
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: whole in penalty, which makes it first down and their

974
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: first and goal at the seven, and it looks really bad.

975
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: Eric Armstead is able to make the set. It's just

976
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: a seven point game, and you're thinking the forty nine

977
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: ers they have a shot, So.

978
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Niners if the Packers get to touchdown there

979
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: at fourteen to three, Like, look, Jimmy Garoppolo was just

980
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: awful on this game. He was so bad at no

981
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: point of that change is terrible. Kyle Shanahan greeted him

982
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: like he does when he has one of those bad

983
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: games where it's just like, I'm not even gonna give

984
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:11,479
Speaker 2: you a chance to scrup anymore. Like Garoppolo, who had

985
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: like five or more passes to the flats, just like

986
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: lofting it over there. Dude was dying to throw the

987
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: game season ending pick six. He's just laying it up

988
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 2: over on the side. So you're not feeling great if

989
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: if the Packers go out fourteen three, we're done like

990
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: the Niners, you know, by the way it's snowing, it's

991
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: it's we got everything coming at him.

992
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: Now.

993
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: It's a classic Lambeau game, and it's feeling like the

994
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 2: Packers could just start to run away with this if

995
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: this goes the wrong way, but the Niners get to

996
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: stop the Niners, you know, get get the ball moving again.

997
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 2: As the snow is coming down, we're losing traction, getting

998
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: harder and harder to pass. It's getting easier and easier

999
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: to run. The Niners are getting there, blocking going, they

1000
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: got their run game going. I feel like we're having

1001
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 2: a chance here. This is where I got a dump

1002
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: on cal shann In a little bit. So Shanahan just

1003
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 2: gets a little too cute sometimes. Deebo Samuel on that

1004
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: return kickoff return great obviously, fifty yard play, huge return,

1005
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 2: you love it. But what you don't notice necessarily is

1006
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: that Deebo missed the entire next series because he's gassed

1007
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: from returning the long play. Now it's a trade. You're

1008
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: willing to make. If you're gonna get a fifty yard return,

1009
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: you're gonna take him out a few plays. But then

1010
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: there's the huge third down for a fourth down, I

1011
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: think where they go Trenton Williams, the stud blocker. They

1012
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: put him in motion again. I hated that when they

1013
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: did it last week they got a false start out

1014
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: of it. They try it again, didn't learn their lesson.

1015
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: Pick up a monster pancake block looks super cool. First down,

1016
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 2: guess what, you put your giant lineman in motion. He

1017
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 2: gets gassed, so now he's over on the sideline, and

1018
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: now you bury yourself on first and second down because

1019
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: he's missing the next two plays. And they keep doing

1020
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: that later of the game. It's fourth down for the season.

1021
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: You put Trent Trent Williams in motion again, your best player,

1022
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: by the way, he blocks No. One because he motioned

1023
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: him out of the play, and you run Alijah Mitchell

1024
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: into the pile. And I'm just thinking, Shanahan, you blew it.

1025
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: You cost yourself the season. Deebo is off the field,

1026
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: Trent is blocking nobody on the side, and what are

1027
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: you doing in the biggest play of the season. I thought,

1028
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: Shanahan played himself.

1029
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that that fourth down play, it was just

1030
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: it was really really rough we saw last week with

1031
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: the with them putting Trent Williams in motion and getting

1032
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: fall start penalty. It's just I would rather have seen

1033
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: Deebo in that situation more than Mitchell. For whatever reason.

1034
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: Debo is just able to break some tackles and he's

1035
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: able to get to the outside. But this Packers team

1036
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: has shown that they can't really stop to run in

1037
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: the middle.

1038
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 2: So I rather would rather Jimmy just keeps it. You

1039
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 2: got your giant quarterback. Grappolo had a better QB keep

1040
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: record than Tom Brady, like he's nearly perfect. I think

1041
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: lifetime I'm the key. So just you're like six inches away,

1042
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: you've got an old line that's winning, and a Packer

1043
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: is lying. That can't stop you stop getting creative.

1044
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: Just push forward and.

1045
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: Get the first down and run another play here. So

1046
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 2: the Packers get the ball back again, it feels like

1047
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: it's over and again. This is where Eric Armstad I believe,

1048
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: made another huge sack. They get the Niner or get

1049
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: the Packers in a negative script. Packers line up for

1050
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 2: the punt and this is where the entire game swings

1051
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 2: right up the middle. The poor long snapper never has

1052
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: a chance, and the guy comes right up the middle

1053
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: blocks the punt. I have no idea where the ball is.

1054
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: Neither is the camera man, neither the half the guys

1055
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: on the field. I rewound it. I kind of like

1056
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: two and a half seconds of the ball is just

1057
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: off the screen, in the air somewhere. The Niners pick

1058
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: it up, run it in. Holy crap, it's ten to ten.

1059
00:52:58,600 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: We're tied.

1060
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they felt like the ball was in the

1061
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: air forever. And you know, when that play happens, you're thinking, look,

1062
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: it's a great score from the forty nine ers. But

1063
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has the ball. All he needs is a

1064
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: field goal. He's gonna get it. And they get a

1065
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: three and out. And then not only do they get

1066
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: a three and out, they pick up a penalty. So

1067
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: you're pretty much punting from even further back, and you're

1068
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: given the San Francisco forty nine Ers an opportunity to

1069
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: get better field position. Yeah.

1070
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, Aaron Rodgers. By the way, this was not

1071
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: all on Aaron Rodgers. The Packers' special teams were just

1072
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: just terrible, like hard to be much worse. They gave

1073
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: up a block punt touchdown, they get the field goal block,

1074
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 2: they gave up pick returns of thirty two and forty

1075
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: five yards. Just atrocious game by them, but Aaron Rodgers

1076
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: not atrocious, but not good enough. We don't know if

1077
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers will play another snap for the Packers. If

1078
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: he doesn't, here are his last five for the Packers,

1079
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: his last five dropbacks, I should say, first one, he

1080
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: throws it in completion. Josh normanist come on the field

1081
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: and he's on devant to Adams, and this is what

1082
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 2: we saw. The theme is that Aaron Rodgers loses trust

1083
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: in the guys on his team and he only will

1084
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: go to the guys that he trusts, and that's Adams

1085
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: and Cob So he forces it to Adams, doesn't make

1086
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: a good throw in completion. Next play, he holds on

1087
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: the ball too long and that's the Armstead sack. So

1088
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: he takes the sack. Then the punt gets blocked. So

1089
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 2: now it's tied. But again, like you said, the Packers

1090
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: are still sixty two percent and winning probability. Here, you're

1091
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: still in good shape. It's a disaster, but you got Rogers.

1092
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: You're at home. The Niners can't move the ball. You're

1093
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: still in fine, chick, so they get the ball back.

1094
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: First pass, Rogers forced it to Adams four yard out. Fine, whatever,

1095
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: but there are other guys open. Next play, Rogers throws finally,

1096
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: remembers he has another receiver and forces it over to

1097
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: Randall Cobb on the left side of the field. I

1098
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 2: think COB's only target of the game. We're like a

1099
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 2: split second away from a pick six, Like the Niners

1100
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: guy is right there. Another split second later he's gone

1101
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: the other way, and that's it. And by the way,

1102
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 2: two other Packers' receivers are like button hooked in the

1103
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: middle of the field, just wide open, uncovered, but no,

1104
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 2: Randal Cobb is my guy. I trade it for him.

1105
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 2: I'm throwing the cop so we got incomplete to Cob.

1106
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: We're third down. I'm watching a game with my dad.

1107
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 2: At this point, I turn him and I say, this

1108
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 2: is the play when the Niners double cover DeVante Adams

1109
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: because they know it's going to him, and Rogers finds

1110
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: Equanimia Saint Brown or Lazard is somebody for like a

1111
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: killer thirty five yard play. So what happens They double

1112
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: cover Davante Lazard comes over the middle on a long

1113
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 2: slant and is completely uncovered wide open. Should have been

1114
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 2: like a thirty forty yard play in the field goal range.

1115
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: Rogers forces it to Adams, double covered, incomplete, and that's

1116
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: pretty much the last pass that we get from him.

1117
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really tragic when you thought about it. Actually,

1118
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: he had two guys wide open on their play, and

1119
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: when you look at the targets, Aaron Jones had ten targets,

1120
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams had eleven targets, and no other receiver had

1121
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: more than one except for Dominique Daphney, he had two targets,

1122
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: but he essentially just wasn't passing the ball to anybody else.

1123
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: So I think that's been a weakness of this Packers

1124
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: team at Aaron Rodgers and for whatever reason, as great

1125
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: as Aaron Rodgers is in these playoff moments, he just

1126
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten it done it. And you know at times

1127
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: that we could blame Mike McCarthy, blame the defense, but

1128
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: when you have other guys wide open and you're not

1129
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: getting the ball, it's kind of your fault.

1130
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 2: So you got to take a chance to make a play.

1131
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 2: At some point he took five sacks in the skam

1132
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: sacks or quarterback stat that is on you for holding

1133
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 2: the ball too long. He wasn't getting all of the blocking,

1134
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 2: not entirely on him, but he's taken socks for throwing

1135
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 2: it away. DeVante is beating every time you have a chance,

1136
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: and you've got other receivers who were repeatedly seeing open.

1137
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 2: I went back and watched the last like ten minutes,

1138
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: and if you watch Adams, I remember watching live. My

1139
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: eyes are finding Adams on every single play. Where is he?

1140
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: Where is he? Because I know I've got to make

1141
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: sure he's covered. You watch the other guys they're open

1142
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: because the Niners are all watching Adams too, And apparently

1143
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: they knew what I knew, which is that that's what

1144
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: Rodgers is watching him as well. So Rodgers actually finished

1145
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: at negative point nineteen epa per play on throws. The

1146
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: last few drives, the Packers go six plays from minus

1147
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: fifteen yards. Obviously the Niners still had a work to do.

1148
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: They go to Kittle over the middle, they got the

1149
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: third down and seven call. They hand it off to deebo.

1150
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: A game because for you to call a draw there

1151
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: like that, that says a lot.

1152
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought they'd throw a kittle. But

1153
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: thinking back on it, I think that play to me

1154
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: is we are not giving Rogers any chance to beat

1155
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: us in regulation. This is about a minute left. So

1156
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 2: worst case scenario, we run the clock, we don't risk

1157
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 2: any incompletion. We get forty five seconds off the clock,

1158
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: and we either try a long field goal or we

1159
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: punt it and go to overtime. Best case scenario, we

1160
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 2: pick up a first down and get a shot at this.

1161
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: I think that that was just in a conservative call

1162
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: to not give Aaron a shot. No pun intended. I

1163
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: guess Aaron doesn't like taking the shot anyways. But Deebo

1164
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: got the first down. Again. We said this, We've seen

1165
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: this in other games. It's the run defense that cost

1166
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: them here. They couldn't get off the field on the

1167
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: run defense. I love as a guy that lives in

1168
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 2: Chicago Land, Robbie Gold, longtime Chicago Bear, comes on the field.

1169
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: Robbie Gold knocks the Packers out. You know he loves

1170
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: that moment. After spending like a decade with the Bears,

1171
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: and of course one more blow. The Packers season ends

1172
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: with ten guys on the field for special teams. Play

1173
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: just for one more last special team's mistake to end

1174
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: this thing, because of course, how could that any other way.

1175
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: We've said it all year. This team reminded us of

1176
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: the Saints from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty, whereas just

1177
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: they had these dominant regular seasons and maybe they get

1178
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: into the playoffs and they just had some bad luck

1179
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: or they just flat out couldn't get it done and unfortunate,

1180
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: but it appears that this is the end of an era.

1181
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: Packers are over the cat and Aaron Rodgers has stated

1182
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: that he's not interested in playing for rebuild. So it's

1183
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: gonna be interested to see what's going forward. Who's going

1184
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: to be their quarterback next year. I know they're gonna

1185
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: have to re sign or franchise Tag Deafonte Adams, but

1186
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: it canna be interesting to see what Jordan Love can do.

1187
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: As a Vikings fan, I can't wait to find out

1188
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: what Jordan Love can do. Real sick of watching Brett

1189
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: fav and Aaron Rodgers wearing green and gold in my

1190
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: entire life. So my question for you, So we're both

1191
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 2: on forty nine Ers futures, but late in the game,

1192
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 2: Brent Williams was picking up injuries multiple times. Deebo limps

1193
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: off the field on the last drive, Hittle limps off

1194
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: the field on the last drive. Certainly it looks like

1195
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: Shanahan lost confidence in Jimmy I thought maybe even in

1196
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 2: Elijah Mitchell. They got a little too cute there. Did

1197
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: we win the battle but lose the war? Do you

1198
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 2: think that the Niners can still win two more after

1199
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 2: that game?

1200
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they can win two more because

1201
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously that's gonna require them to beat the

1202
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: Chiefs or the Bank I mean, which they beat the

1203
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: They beat the Bengals before on the road. I think

1204
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs are favorite, so asking them to beat

1205
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: this Chiefs teams is tough. But so much of that

1206
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: game has to do with the weather. And when you

1207
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: have these inclement weather games and snow and win and

1208
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: everything like that, you're gonna you're gonna see an offensive suppression.

1209
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: And Jimmy g has never played in a game that

1210
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: that was that cold in his life. And I think

1211
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: they're going into a place where they've dominated. They've beaten

1212
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: the Rams six straight times, so I think they have

1213
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: and you have to assume that Debo's gonna be playing.

1214
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about Trent Williams, but I think they're

1215
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: the They have a solid chance of winning next week.

1216
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that they'll you know, they'll be in

1217
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 2: a good shot. I gotta believe all those guys are

1218
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 2: gonna play. But I am a little worried about my futures.

1219
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 2: Not that I ever really was confident in any Super

1220
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: Bowl future. You're not confident when you pick a fifty

1221
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 2: to one future to win. They certainly have a shot now.

1222
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: So I'm feeling good about the ticket, but I'm certainly

1223
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: not confident that they're gonna sweep through these next couple

1224
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 2: of games. You know, I want to see the injury

1225
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: report before I go too heavily on this game. One seed,

1226
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: by the way, since two thousand and three, one seed

1227
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 2: favorites in the divisional round of ten points or less

1228
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: after Saturday fell to eight twenty four and a one

1229
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: against the spread twenty five percent cover rate, and that

1230
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: takes us into our other game. We got to go

1231
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 2: quick on this one because we've gone long on the

1232
01:01:53,800 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: other three Bengals. Titans in Tennessee, Titans bad early in control,

1233
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: later gave it up late. Bengals get to win on

1234
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 2: the cover, plus four on the cover, plus one sixty

1235
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 2: five on the money line nineteen to sixteen, Cincinnati's first

1236
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: franchise win ever on the road in the playoffs, and

1237
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill laid an egg and the Bengals took advantage

1238
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: of up.

1239
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. Look, the game comes down to

1240
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. Some of it wasn't his fault in the

1241
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: sense that his interceptions did come off with tip passes. Now,

1242
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: one of the interceptions it was his fault because he

1243
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: threw it right to the guy that got tipped it

1244
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: and ran it back. But when you looked at this

1245
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: this Bengals team. I mentioned it before, I've been saying

1246
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: it all year. I've been faiting this Bengals team against

1247
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: teams with prolific passing offenses. And the Titans and AJ

1248
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: Brown was open all game. He had five receptions one

1249
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: hundred and forty two yards. Julio Jones was able to

1250
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: make some plays, but it's like guys were wide open

1251
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: and it just felt like ten and Hill couldn't get

1252
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: from the ball or they forced the ball into Derek

1253
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: Henry Altt. But too much to me, Devonse Foreman was

1254
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: the better running back I mean, he had four carries

1255
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: sixty six yards sixteen point five average, and they're forcing

1256
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: the ball to Derrick Henry right off the injury. Twenty

1257
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: carries sixty two yards three point one yards per carrying

1258
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: and he's not really effective. So it was frustrated to

1259
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: see that. And despite everything that went on, it's just

1260
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: like the Titans defense pretty much dominate. It had non

1261
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: sex in this game. This very little time where you're

1262
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: gonna see a team get sacked nine times and win

1263
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: the game. But Joe Burrow just came up big. Twenty

1264
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: eight to thirty seven, two hundred and forty eight yards,

1265
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: win an interception. Titans had a chance to win this game,

1266
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: and you get a Ryan Tannehill interception which pretty much

1267
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: puts the Bengals in range of scoring. You give Joe

1268
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: Burrow a chance with Jamar Chase, he's gonna make a play,

1269
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what happened.

1270
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what's happened all down the stretch

1271
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 2: this season for Burrow and for Chase. Yeah, the sacks

1272
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: were a huge issue. Nine sacks. You said, rarely do

1273
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: you get the win. It's only a second playoff game

1274
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 2: ever that a team is won allowing eight sacks. The

1275
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 2: only other one was two thousand and three your hometown

1276
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: Eagles against the Packers fourth and twenty six Freddie Mitchell.

1277
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 2: That was a fun one for sure. That's the only

1278
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 2: other one when they got the had so many sacks

1279
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 2: and still came in with the win. The Titans were

1280
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 2: the better team on this one. But this made too

1281
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: many mistakes and the big plays, the third down, the

1282
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 2: fourth downs, the turnovers, they just lost all the big plays.

1283
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: They lost the turner battle three nothing. Tannehill intercepted on

1284
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 2: the first play of the game. They were one of

1285
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,959
Speaker 2: eight on third down, zero for one on fourth down,

1286
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: one for three in the red zone. I agree, Derrick

1287
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 2: Henry just didn't look himself. Didn't feel like he could

1288
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: plant and get up field. There was a drive later

1289
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: in the game, Titans had a third and one and

1290
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: they run an option keeper. So Tannehill good hand it off,

1291
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: keeps it himself and gets just crushed. And then they

1292
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: go on a slow Derrick Henry run up the middle

1293
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: and they get stuffed, and that was the fourth down.

1294
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 2: They didn't convert. They just didn't have a chance here.

1295
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 2: The Bengals. I made some jokes about you know, coming

1296
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 2: to the season, we talked about did they make the

1297
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 2: right draft pick, did they taking Jamar Chase or they

1298
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 2: could have taken the pinay so well to come and

1299
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: play tackle for them. They sure could have used the

1300
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: you know, a tackle or for eighteen in this game

1301
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 2: because that line was rough. Joe Burrow had a four

1302
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 2: point zero average depth of target in this game because

1303
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 2: the poor dude was like getting sacked by the time

1304
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 2: he got the snap every time. But Burrow not great,

1305
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 2: Tannehill worse. Not a great football game, but a close game,

1306
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: not a great game. Too much, too much running in

1307
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 2: the middle for both teams. I keep harping on this

1308
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: for the Bengals, but for early down runs, they just

1309
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: went way too much and early down seventeen early down

1310
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,959
Speaker 2: runs and they're at negative zero point eight epa per play,

1311
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: only twenty four percent success grate. You can get away

1312
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 2: with that against the Titans and against the Raiders. Good

1313
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: luck if you try to pull that off against the Chiefs,

1314
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 2: It's not gonna go well for you.

1315
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just it felt like both teams should have

1316
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: abandoned and run a lot more. And I was expecting that,

1317
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: and I think that's why I like to over in

1318
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: this game. It didn't work out for me. But I mean,

1319
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: obviously you had the turnovers from Tannehill, he had the

1320
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: Redsonia interception, you had the Derrick Henry. They went for two.

1321
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: They didn't work out, And I can't understand why the

1322
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: Bengals ran the ball little more considering they had trouble blocking.

1323
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: You got you got to run the ball when your

1324
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: offensive line is performing at poorly. But the Titans, to me,

1325
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: I would have liked to see them throw the ball

1326
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: more because to me, the Bengals had no answer for them.

1327
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: But if Tanners will turn the ball over, not much

1328
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: you can.

1329
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 2: Do right Exactly like Tannehill throwing. When he's throwing, well,

1330
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 2: he's hitting some big plays. Andrew Brown was tearing him

1331
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: up when they got it to him. But when you

1332
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: got three interceptions of a playoff game, you're not exactly

1333
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: eager to keep throwing at that point either. So tough

1334
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 2: spot there. Having McPherson, the kicker for the Bengals, gets

1335
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: the walkoff winner. Dude has been absolutely nails for them

1336
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: as a rookie, just keeps bailing them out. And I

1337
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: feel like too, you know, we do NBA obviously me

1338
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: and you to me, the Bengals here are last year's

1339
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: Atlanta Hawks, or they're the Portland Trailblazers from a few

1340
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 2: years ago. They're a good team, They're a fun young team.

1341
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: We're not taking anything away from them. They just got

1342
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: the favorable draw here. You only can play the teams

1343
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: in front of you. That's nothing against you. But I

1344
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 2: don't look at this and be like, wow, the Bengals

1345
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 2: are a top four team in the NFL.

1346
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: Now.

1347
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 2: No, the Bengals are in the final four of the NFL. Now,

1348
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: the Bengals are going to be big underdogs against any

1349
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: team that they play left, including a sixteed nine ers

1350
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: if it got there. They're just they're the worst team left,

1351
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: but they take care of business, and you know Burrow

1352
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: and Chase will give them a chance. You can be

1353
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: the worst team and still have a chance. We saw

1354
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: that against the Chiefs week seventeen. They were the worst

1355
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: team then too, and Burwin Chase got the job done there.

1356
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: So all you want to see at the table, And

1357
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,919
Speaker 2: unlike the Hawks of the Blazers, we're not playing best

1358
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 2: of seven. Anything can happen in one game and the

1359
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 2: Bengals only need anything to happen two more times here.

1360
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, without a doubt. I mean it's the NFL.

1361
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: It's like, this is a game with a lot of

1362
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: variants where turnovers can totally change the game. That's second

1363
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: what we saw in Saturday's game. And the interesting thing

1364
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: about it is the Bengals have a little bit of

1365
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: an advantage in terms of rest because they did play

1366
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 1: on Saturday, and the Chiefs are coming off a big,

1367
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 1: pot profile win where they needed to fight back and

1368
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 1: score multiple times to take the lead and win it overtime.

1369
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: So the Bengals are I'm not counting the Bengals out

1370
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: of this one.

1371
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll get to that in a second. Fourth

1372
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 2: time ever that both one seeds lost in divisional weekend,

1373
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 2: first time ever they both lost on the same day.

1374
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 2: Can you recall any of the previous three times that

1375
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: both one seeds lost in the same divisional round playoff?

1376
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 2: There's been two of them, two of them during our lifetime.

1377
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 2: Do you recall you the one of them?

1378
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: There's been two of them. I can only think of

1379
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: the only actually, dam I can't even remember the only

1380
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: only year I remember where the one seed lost was.

1381
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: I remember when the Cowboys lost the Giants two thousand

1382
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: and seven, but the Patriots segment to Super Bowl, so

1383
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 1: I know it's not that year. Which year was it?

1384
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 2: So it's the year after that it was the Giants.

1385
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: The Giants were the one seed the following year, and

1386
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 2: the Titans were a one seed, so that's one of them.

1387
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: Oh, the Chris Johnson year. Yeah, yeah, they lost to

1388
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: a Bengal I mean to the Ravens out on the road.

1389
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 1: I remember that Kerry Collins thirteen and three.

1390
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 2: Yes, I believe that that they that was the only

1391
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: team that beat them that year, and they swept all

1392
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 2: three of them, I think. So that was that one.

1393
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 2: Two eleven Patriots and the Falcons was another one. And

1394
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,759
Speaker 2: then back in nineteen seventy nine, San Diego and Dallas

1395
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 2: somehow weirdly, and all three of those times the Steelers

1396
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 2: made the Super Bowl. So at least we don't have

1397
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 2: that going for us this time around. No Steelers in

1398
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 2: this Super Bowl. I did note the teams that pulled

1399
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: the upset. The teams that beat the one seeds were

1400
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 2: two and four the next week, so not terrible. Obviously,

1401
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 2: you know they're they're underdogs they're going on the road,

1402
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 2: so they still had a shot. So the the Niners

1403
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 2: and the Bengals obviously are those teams this time, so

1404
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens there. No stink of the week

1405
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 2: this week. I made the executive decision. This was an

1406
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 2: awesome week in a football give the NFL credit. Applause

1407
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 2: for the NFL. No stink your stink free no Monday

1408
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 2: Night football were down only three games left. We've previewed

1409
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,560
Speaker 2: the conference championship a little bit. Bless us do a

1410
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: quick hot read before we get you out here.

1411
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: Hot rap Bo sevent day on ice Rights ice cream.

1412
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: Nineteen seven, nineteen Bengals Chiefs AFC Championship is our first

1413
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: one Sunday. Chiefs are minus seven, maybe seven and a half.

1414
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 2: They open at six and a half and the money's

1415
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 2: coming in on Kansas City. The total open at fifty

1416
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: one and a half and quickly went up to fifty

1417
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: three and a half. The money is pretty clear right now.

1418
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 2: Everyone believes in the Chiefs just going and taking care

1419
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: of business there and narrow had sounds like you're looking

1420
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 2: towards the Bengals here.

1421
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: Okay, First things first, I like the over over fifty

1422
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 1: three and a half. I think this lone shoup be

1423
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 1: around fifty five. When you look at the first matchup

1424
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: between these two teams, Joe Burrow's thirty of thirty nine

1425
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: to four hundred and forty forty six yards for touchdowns

1426
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes that first half, they were absolutely dominant. Twenty

1427
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: eight points in the first half and just three in

1428
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: the second half. I can assure you, whatever happens, win

1429
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: or lose, the Chiefs are not scoring three points in

1430
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: the second half of this game. So I really think

1431
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: you're going to see a shootout. Both teams, I mean

1432
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: both teams just their offenses were just rolling. And I

1433
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: think one of the things that you saw in this

1434
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: game is that the Chiefs had some injuries. Obviously you

1435
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: lose the honey Badger in this one, they also wore

1436
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: it actually got banged up. So I mean these two teams,

1437
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: they put up nine hundred yards sixty five points. Both

1438
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: teams had over seven yards per pass. These teams are

1439
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: gonna put up some points. But I think this line

1440
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: is getting up there to the point I think we

1441
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: were at six and a half from now we're seven

1442
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: and a half. I think you got to be looking

1443
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: at Bengals are passed. I just think this is too

1444
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: many points. The Bengals they proved it they could score

1445
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: back to back to the Chiefs, and the Chiefs haven't

1446
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: really proven it they can really stop this team. So

1447
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: I'm leaning Bengals in the er.

1448
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm leaning the same way the early pick that

1449
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 2: I turned in here, and I think you're right. The

1450
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 2: key number, the switch from one side of the key

1451
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 2: number to the other side. I was kind of trying

1452
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: to side, Well, this seems like a lot of points.

1453
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 2: The Bengals just beat them literally this month. It was

1454
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 2: in January that the Bengals beat them. It was in Cincinnati,

1455
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: and I remember going back to that game. Early in

1456
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 2: that game, they just felt like these were in different

1457
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 2: weight classes. The Chiefs just were running them off the field,

1458
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 2: scoring anytime they wanted to, right down the field. And

1459
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 2: that for me was confirmation biased because I already felt

1460
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 2: like the Bengals were overrated, and I remember early in

1461
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,839
Speaker 2: that game being like, see, I knew it. The Bengals

1462
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 2: are frauds. The Chiefs are awesome, Bengals had no shot.

1463
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,919
Speaker 2: I'm like writing all my notes piling on the Bengals,

1464
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,799
Speaker 2: and then for the second half, Somedd of the Bengals

1465
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 2: are piling up everything Chiefs can't score. Jamark Chase was

1466
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 2: incredible in that game, get three touchdowns two hundred and

1467
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 2: sixty six yards. To me, that's the thing that sticks

1468
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 2: with me here is that the Chiefs could not cover

1469
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 2: these receivers. Chase and t Higgins had man coverage, and

1470
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow looked at his guys and said, you can't

1471
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 2: cover me. If you're putting man on my guy, I'm

1472
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: just throwing it up and letting my guy win the ball.

1473
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: And Chase and Higgins did it time after time after

1474
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 2: time in that game. So I agree, Matthew is a

1475
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,879
Speaker 2: huge loss for the Chiefs. If he's out concussion protocol

1476
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 2: and the history he's had, I'm not feeling optimistic that

1477
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 2: he'll play. So I think the Bengals are going to score.

1478
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: You're right.

1479
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: I think that that probably leans toward the over there,

1480
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 2: and I think the back door will be open. Either

1481
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 2: the Bengals scoring up to make this a game. They

1482
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 2: have eleven to one score games already this year, and

1483
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: at seven and a half, a one score game does

1484
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 2: the trick or maybe they just find the back door.

1485
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 2: You know they're gonna keep passing Joe Burrow. We've seen

1486
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 2: them put up some huge yardage games. So yeah, I

1487
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: think the Chiefs are gonna win. But I think the

1488
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: Bengals can cover this line.

1489
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. You know, maybe it might be

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01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: a good teaser candidate to possibly take the Chiefs down

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01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: to minus one or pick them, maybe tease that with

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01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: our next game.

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01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking. Man,

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01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 2: I might be doing a little Chiefs forty nine ers

1495
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:47,560
Speaker 2: teaser here. So somehow, I think we're about to be thirteen, no,

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01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 2: twelve games into the playoffs, and I don't know if

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01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: we've yet actually really disagreed on one of our games,

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01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 2: which is pretty crazy, but forty nine ers at the

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01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 2: Rams NFC Championship game. The Rams are three and a

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01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 2: half point favorites total out forty six and a half.

1501
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 2: The Niners money line. We got to point out because

1502
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 2: we've been playing in the last two weeks plus one

1503
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 2: fifty five on the money line. The Niners been my team.

1504
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: I've been riding for three weeks in a row. The

1505
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: Niners have gone as underdogs and knocked off the Rams

1506
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 2: in Week eighteen. Cowboys in the playoffs Packers in the playoffs?

1507
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 2: Are the Niners going to keep it rolling and get

1508
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 2: another one here?

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01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think they keep it rolling here. Look, I

1510
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: mean alast gonna be made of this. But Kyle Shanahan

1511
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 1: is a underdog. We've spoken about it before. He's twenty

1512
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: five to savent a team against the spread, but he's

1513
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 1: absolutely dominated Sean McVay in this era. He's seven and

1514
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: three against the spread and he's actually won sixth straight.

1515
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: Actually know, he's seven and three straight up against Sean McVay,

1516
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: and he's won the last six matchups, with the last

1517
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: four coming in a row as an underdog. So I

1518
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: think that's pretty huge for this team to know that

1519
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: they can go into Los Angeles and be able to

1520
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: beat this team in Los Angeles doesn't really have a

1521
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 1: strong home foot advantage anyway, So I think you're going

1522
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: to see a lot of people from the Bay Area

1523
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: coming down. But the thing that stands out for me

1524
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: as far as this matchup, when you get rid of

1525
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: the trends, is that the San Francisco forty nine ers,

1526
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: they've been able to dominate on both sides of the

1527
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: ball in terms of the offensive line. Then the first

1528
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: matchup that they won it earlier this year thirty one

1529
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: to ten. They had one hundred and fifty six rushing yards,

1530
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: and the second one is just the entire second half.

1531
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: They ran the ball down their throat and it's just

1532
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: like they dominated the time possession. They had one hundred

1533
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: and thirty five rushing yards, and early on this season,

1534
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: Deebo wasn't a thing. Elijah Mitchell wasn't a thing, and

1535
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: they proved that they can make it a thing. I

1536
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: just think the Rams they can't run the ball. I

1537
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 1: think three and a half points is too much, and

1538
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: I think this is supposed to a pick.

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01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: You're right off my notes. Basically, that's everything that I

1540
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 2: think about that game. Yeah, the home field advantage that's

1541
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 2: being factor to the line here should not be a factor.

1542
01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 2: Week eighteen, that was a home game for the night.

1543
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 2: There were loud, loud Niners fans cheering for their comeback

1544
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 2: as the Rams at home try to play for a

1545
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: division clincher. That's embarrassing. There's gonna be Niners fans here.

1546
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: It's not going to be a home field advantage. I

1547
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: think that the matrics paint these teams as relative equals.

1548
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 2: So if there's not a real home field advantage and

1549
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 2: retel equals. I agree, I should be around a coin

1550
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 2: flip at that point. You said Shanahan seven and three

1551
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 2: in those games. The forty nine Ers have been underdogs

1552
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 2: eight out of the ten games, and there's he's still

1553
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 2: seven and three in these games. So I kind of

1554
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: tease this before, but sometimes you just have the right

1555
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 2: coaching matchup and the way that the Shanahan running system

1556
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 2: goes that the McVeigh and his defense just haven't been

1557
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 2: able to stop that this year in eight quarters, basically,

1558
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,839
Speaker 2: the Niners have dominated for seven of the eight quarters.

1559
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 2: Week eighteen, the Rams had a huge first quarter and

1560
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: then laid an egg the entire rest of the game.

1561
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 2: The Niners actually almost doubled up the Rams and yards.

1562
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 2: He had four and forty nine yards to undred and

1563
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 2: sixty five in that game, and most of the two

1564
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 2: sixty five came that first quarter, and no Tren Williams

1565
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 2: in that game, so that that game wasn't as close

1566
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: as it looked. It was thirty one ten Niners favor

1567
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 2: in the previous matchup. Like you said, six wins in

1568
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,719
Speaker 2: a row. I agree with the Lions too. The Rams

1569
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 2: offensive line. I think it's struggle a little bit. We've

1570
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 2: seen Armstead and Bolsa how good they've been, and we

1571
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 2: saw Stafford got sacked seven times in those two games

1572
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 2: this year. On the other end, as good as the

1573
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,799
Speaker 2: Rams pressure was today against the Buccaneers, the Niners offensive

1574
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 2: line is not the Bucks offensive line. Trent Williams is

1575
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 2: not Donovan Smith, I promise you that much, and Trent

1576
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 2: Willen and they could be in motion this game because

1577
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 2: he's going to be eliminating von Miller from the game

1578
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 2: for most of the time instead. So I'm with you,

1579
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 2: I'm fully in line. The only thing for me is

1580
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 2: that the injuries do worry me a little bit. I

1581
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 2: just I want to wait it out. And just I

1582
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: got burned a little by the Bucks this week, being

1583
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 2: all in fading the Rams and then having to wait

1584
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 2: out the Bucks injuries, having to buy out a little bit.

1585
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 2: So wellman, Look, Garoppolo is injured, playing through. Kittle got hurt, laid,

1586
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,919
Speaker 2: Deebo got hurt late. Trent Williams is playing through injuries.

1587
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 2: Bolsa was a question mark, played through. Fred Warner was

1588
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 2: a question mark. That's basically the who's who of all

1589
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 2: the players that matter on this team and Jimmy Garoppolo.

1590
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1591
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 2: So I want to see who's actually playing for this team.

1592
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 2: But I'm definitely on the Niners. I will be betting

1593
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 2: the Niners. I'll be playing the Niners money line. I've

1594
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 2: got all the futures. But I don't even think I

1595
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 2: can headch out of it because I just think this

1596
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 2: is the right matchup for San fram here. And the one.

1597
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: Advantage that they have the same advantage as the Bengals have.

1598
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 1: They have an extra day. They played on Saturday. The

1599
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: Rams played on Sunday, so with their injuries, they had

1600
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: have an extra day to rest. I think it's pretty big.

1601
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: And one thing I will say is that it's so

1602
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: interesting the twenty to ten Bears. They actually let the

1603
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: Packers into the playoffs in week seventeen and then Green

1604
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: Bay went into Chicago, won the NFC title game and

1605
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 1: actually won the Super Bowl. If you look at another scenario,

1606
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: which is very similar than it is in two thousand

1607
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: and nine, the Coats blew a second half league because

1608
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: they brought Curtis Payter into the game. I'm pretty sure

1609
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: about this. You know about this. The coach They basically

1610
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: gave up their chance of going undefeated that season by

1611
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 1: bringing Curtis Painter in and allowed Rex Ryan in the

1612
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: Jets to get into the playoffs as a wildcard. Just

1613
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,560
Speaker 1: pulled off two straight upsets and then faced Indianapolis in

1614
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game. Coach end up winning that game

1615
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: and then losing the Super Bowl. So those are the

1616
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: two scenarios where you saw that things are very similar

1617
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 1: to the forty nine ers that beat the Rams in

1618
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:41,799
Speaker 1: weeks eighteen.

1619
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I there was definitely some history on her side here.

1620
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 2: My pick is up on this one as well. I'm

1621
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 2: definitely on the Niners. I got some friends in there

1622
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 2: that you can check out. Obviously, we'll do more on

1623
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: this game, much more depth on our Friday episode, but

1624
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things to like about the Niners here.

1625
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 2: It feels like a game where the public is probably

1626
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 2: going to back the Rams. We saw how good they

1627
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 2: looked against Tom Brady and the Bucks, and it feels

1628
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 2: like we're going to overrate how awesome that was early

1629
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 2: and that we're gonna look at the Niners and be like,

1630
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 2: what a terrible team the Packers blew at The Niners

1631
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 2: were awful. The Niners defense was really impressive in that game.

1632
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:22,719
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo was awful, but Jimmy Garoppolo was playing in snow.

1633
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: Garoppolo is playing injured. He has those games, he doesn't

1634
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 2: always have them two games in a row. And he's

1635
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 2: been pretty good against the Rams and we're not playing

1636
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: one on one. Jimmy Garoppolo is playing with the line,

1637
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,759
Speaker 2: with the run game, with good weapons, with the system,

1638
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 2: and honestly with a lot of confidence. I think against

1639
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 2: this Rams team. He knows He's been the quarterback for

1640
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 2: six of those wins, so he knows how to beat

1641
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 2: this team.

1642
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: As we talked about Jimmy Garoppolo, he led the game

1643
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: winning drive last week. That's something that Aaron Rodgers couldn't do.

1644
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers went three and out. Jimmy Garoppolo drove the

1645
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: ball down the field and I know Debo got the

1646
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: draw play to pick up nine yards to move it

1647
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 1: from the green bay thirty eight to about the twenty

1648
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: nine to twenty eight or so. But Jimmy Garoppolo still

1649
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 1: got it done when it matters, and he's done his

1650
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: all season.

1651
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 2: So he did and he hit He hit Kittle up

1652
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 2: the middle on the seam a couple of key plays

1653
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 2: and guess who else. He got it done against the

1654
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 2: Rams in Week eighteen with the season on the line,

1655
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 2: and he drove them all the way down the field

1656
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 2: for the win in Los Angeles. So I think the

1657
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: Niners go to La get the win and then set

1658
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,719
Speaker 2: up shop and stay in La Sola. Can Rams fans

1659
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 2: can watch them play the Super Bowl in their home

1660
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 2: field there too, So we'll talk more about that one

1661
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 2: on Friday. We'll get back to the Chiefs Bangles. That

1662
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 2: will wrap it up today at a marathon. Action Network

1663
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 2: podcast talking about an awesome weekend of football. Don't forget

1664
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: to rate and review the podcast on Apple and Spotify.

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Speaker 2: back Wednesday with their six pack betting guide. We're back Friday.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk both games. Get you ready for Championship Sunday.

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