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Speaker 1: It. Used to be a respectable outfit and then goddamn

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Speaker 1: are just the same. Welcome on this December second, twenty

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Speaker 1: not intentionally. We're trying to salvage what we had. Hi,

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Speaker 1: My name is Luke Thomas. That gentleman over there, the

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Speaker 1: King of CTE from ct by the way with the HIV.

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Speaker 1: It's Brian Campbell. I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Luke hold me now, I'm six feet from the edge,

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Speaker 2: I was not going to be in studio today because

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Speaker 1: I have? Luke? Yeah, full blown aids.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I caught the FBA Luke Okay, but thank

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Speaker 1: It's possible I gave it to you because I was

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Speaker 2: We cannot We've we've killed them all year, and for

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Speaker 1: Let's look at this picture here that I sent to

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Speaker 2: Those push head kicks, Luke, that she was doing, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: In, no question, at every range and from every side,

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Speaker 2: No, And I think it's a part of the almost

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Speaker 2: guys coming out of here that I want to see again.

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Speaker 2: But then to have it in that setting, I mean, look,

433
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Speaker 2: is that the way it has to be. Are they

434
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Speaker 2: only going to survive financially with the investments that the

435
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 2: now both sides of the Middle Eastern combat world have

436
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Speaker 2: made here.

437
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't have a fan base, you

438
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Speaker 1: have to have a B to B business, right, I

439
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,719
Speaker 1: don't know how else you do it. If you're not

440
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 1: consumer facing, what is there's no other alternative. You're either

441
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Speaker 1: one of the two essentially, and that is a possible

442
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Speaker 1: So yes, I think that they have to be if

443
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Speaker 1: they can't come up with a fan base, but I

444
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Speaker 1: think that they should try. I think that that they

445
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: should change their product in some kind of way. Now

446
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: we'll get to that in just a minute. But BC,

447
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: you mentioned the pacing, so as I understand it, like

448
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Speaker 1: from the pfl's perspective, because I had some people tripping

449
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Speaker 1: at me about it from you know, maybe inside that

450
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 1: world a little bit, and their claim is that, like, well,

451
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Speaker 1: it was differently labeled like there was the Meana thing

452
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Speaker 1: that was part of the same event, but it was

453
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Speaker 1: labeled differently. I don't think that that's very effective as

454
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Speaker 1: an argument when you have ten title fights and you know,

455
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Speaker 1: people are just accustomed to watching at full.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you got the potential to have sixteen five

457
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Speaker 2: rome fights on your card, that's a you problem, not

458
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Speaker 2: enough problem, Okay.

459
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Speaker 1: It's not a marketing or packaging problem in that particular sense. Also,

460
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Speaker 1: what I would say is I did think that the

461
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: main card went at a pretty decent speed, but I

462
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Speaker 1: clocked it and the first fight on the card doesn't

463
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Speaker 1: start within the broadcast until twenty eight minutes and twenty

464
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Speaker 1: two seconds. You know, that's a little much. Kevin Ka,

465
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Speaker 1: who used to run Spike TV again, told me years

466
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Speaker 1: ago when they had Beltort, they had wanted to make

467
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Speaker 1: sure that when the broadcast started, the fans could see

468
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Speaker 1: the two fighters in the cage right away. There was

469
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Speaker 1: no fat on that. There's so much fat.

470
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Speaker 2: I can echo that. Look what I was on the

471
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Speaker 2: last two years of ESPN Friday Night Fights in twenty

472
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Speaker 2: fourteen that area, they had an idealism that they had

473
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Speaker 2: to get to the first fight within I think it

474
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Speaker 2: was the first four minutes of the broadcast. So the

475
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Speaker 2: opening shot always was arena showing the two guys in

476
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Speaker 2: the ring, like a thirty second speech, and then we're

477
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Speaker 2: into the first fight. And I'm not saying it has

478
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Speaker 2: to be that quick, but I agree with you that

479
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Speaker 2: was a bit unnecessary, even though I'll say, like I

480
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 2: watched their fighter features closely before the fights to try

481
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Speaker 2: to see, you know, the effort they're putting in. I mean, look,

482
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Speaker 2: they're not incapable of delivering. I think what we think

483
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Speaker 2: they should be, Luke, is what I'm trying to say.

484
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Speaker 2: And this I think in the end, for all we

485
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Speaker 2: said negative coming in, I think it was a win

486
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Speaker 2: all across the card. I think they won on Friday

487
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Speaker 2: is what I'm trying.

488
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Speaker 1: They definitely did. We'll talk about how to change your product.

489
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Speaker 1: My basic issue with doing six title fights six tournament

490
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Speaker 1: winners is that in order to tell the story of

491
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Speaker 1: any one individual tournament, there's all of this subplot that

492
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Speaker 1: they and plot that they have to share with the audience,

493
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: and all these packaging and highlight reels and everything else.

494
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Speaker 1: And so if you only had, like it's say, two

495
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Speaker 1: of those on a card, and then just four really

496
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Speaker 1: good fights or even three really good fights. It's a

497
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Speaker 1: lot easier to put those big elements into the broadcast

498
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Speaker 1: because it's not taking up so much time, but when

499
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Speaker 1: you have six of them, it's just a lot harder.

500
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Speaker 1: So the question is like, is there you really need

501
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Speaker 1: six for a card? It sounds oh, six is better

502
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: than two. That must be tremendous, But then there's costs

503
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: associated I think with doing it that way. All right, BC,

504
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: neither here nor there. If we can't, let's get back

505
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Speaker 1: to the other pieces of this card that are worth mentioning. Now,

506
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 1: Strong Knight for Russian fighters. I'm not gonna go individually

507
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: through them, but I'm gonna.

508
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Speaker 2: Say they were all Russian fighters, Okay.

509
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Speaker 1: Strong Knight. So you had his Reeve, Goltsov, Musayev and Robotanov.

510
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Speaker 1: By the way, in Robotanov beating premise, that's still belator

511
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Speaker 1: versus belatore, but a bellator guy one. And then in

512
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: yakshure mooradv versus Impa, it's bellator versus pfl a bellator

513
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Speaker 1: guy one.

514
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Speaker 2: Shout out to turk Menistan with a champion there, Luke.

515
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Speaker 1: He was, I mean when he was in the Belatore

516
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Speaker 1: attorney that we promoed. I was like, he's gonna get smoked,

517
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: but here he has views later doing pretty good, all right,

518
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Speaker 1: BC of those and ones I mentioned in the main event,

519
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Speaker 1: his Reeve who beat Brendan Locknan, Goltsov who beat pop Off,

520
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Speaker 1: Musaiah who beat Malatov, and the Rabotannovo I just mentioned

521
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Speaker 1: beat Brent Primis among those four who had the most

522
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Speaker 1: impressive win in twenty twenty four campaign.

523
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Speaker 2: It's hard, man, It's a hard question to answer. I

524
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: mean getting it. How do you say the guy in

525
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: the main event's name, last name, his Reeve, his reeve, dude,

526
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Speaker 2: he's eighteen and no now and beat the crap out

527
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Speaker 2: of a very tough ex champion and Brendan lock name

528
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: bloodied him up, couldn't get the finish, but really just

529
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Speaker 2: bodied him across the dominant rounds. I guess two of

530
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Speaker 2: the three judges gave one round to Locknane in the end.

531
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Speaker 2: It could have been that Luke. But I also gotta

532
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Speaker 2: be honest, I was mispronouncing Dennis Goltsov's last name for

533
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: his entire career. I never took him that seriously outside

534
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 2: of just like another heavyweight the PFL has, but he

535
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: got into insane shape. He's made a nice transformation, and

536
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: then to see him against a red hot fighter was

537
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 2: a tough matchup here against Olig Popoff and the almost

538
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: ease in which he submitted him with the triangle round one.

539
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: I gotta say for having not many opponents that you'd

540
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: care to see against Francis and Ghanu, which could be

541
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Speaker 2: a future problem for the You know, it's a problem

542
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Speaker 2: the promotion among the most important things they have to

543
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Speaker 2: solve next year. I come out of this going, you

544
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Speaker 2: know what, Goltsov has maxed himself out here. Let's see

545
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Speaker 2: what he can do. I wouldn't hate a Goldsov in

546
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Speaker 2: Ghanu fight, So if it's if that's the stakes I'm

547
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Speaker 2: talking about, I gotta probably pick Goltsov here most impressive,

548
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Speaker 2: even though some of the other wins were maybe a

549
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Speaker 2: little bit more eye catching from the knockout or what

550
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Speaker 2: have you. But yeah, I mean, are all these guys

551
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Speaker 2: ali guys I don't like he used to kind of

552
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Speaker 2: run this place, right. This is kind of an impressive

553
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 2: night of or day of action across the board for

554
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Speaker 2: Russian fighters because a few of these guys we may

555
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Speaker 2: have known before, but I don't think they looked as

556
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Speaker 2: finished as they did on Friday. There's some strong wins

557
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Speaker 2: who caught your fancy. The most Luke out of that

558
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: group of Ruskies.

559
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: Probably sil probably Shamil Musayev, because he beat an undefeated

560
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: Megamed Lumladov, which I thought by itself was pretty impressive.

561
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: Now he's got let's call it unusual fat in areas

562
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Speaker 1: that can sometimes be populated when you take performance dancing

563
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Speaker 1: drugs wrong. I don't know if that's exactly what happened

564
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: to him. It is a little suspicious, but be that

565
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Speaker 1: as it may.

566
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Speaker 2: I mean he's getting like, is he left nipple fields

567
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Speaker 2: or no?

568
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Speaker 1: Right, I don't. I don't know what his situation is.

569
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Speaker 1: It just looked a little weird.

570
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Speaker 2: I'll put it there, Marquez Bacni, I mean, what's what's

571
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: the levels here? Luke? All right, it looked a little weird.

572
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Speaker 1: I'll leave it like that. But his performance was still

573
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 1: top notch. And again, if you're gonna be clear to fighters,

574
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: you saw it there. Everything it's above board. Let it

575
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: will let it rip. He with that absolutely brilliant left hook,

576
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Speaker 1: dropping them a lot off and finishing them off was

577
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: fan freakantastic. I was extremely impressed by that. The campaign,

578
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: he had to fight the same fighter twice, so it's

579
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: not as impressive, but just like in terms of the

580
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: guy who looked the most menacing, it's either him. I

581
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: also think Robodanov looked fucking awesome. He dropped promise multiple

582
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: times in this fight, defended the takedown multiple times, you know,

583
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: just really looked very very good. You know. I thought

584
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: it was kind of funny, like the rubber guard that

585
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: Primis was using was very good defensively and he couldn't

586
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: get anything offensively done, so Robodinov just kind of withdrew

587
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: from it and then the fight went from bad to

588
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: worse at that point. For premise, like, very very impressive

589
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: by Robodanov, so you could really pick any of them.

590
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: His rey was also very impressive. But I thought in

591
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: that main event, B see that Brendan Lockton like throwing

592
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: spinning attacks like from round one against the guy yes

593
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: who can strike but can obviously take you down and

594
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: hold you down.

595
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he did, yeah, yeah, and.

596
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: He does exactly what he did. So I was like,

597
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: would you say.

598
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 2: That looked a little like Bonner and the Anderson Silva

599
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: fight are more like Wideman in the rock Hold fight.

600
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: A little more wide men in the rock Hold fight

601
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: with with consequences not quite as disastrous, but yeah, it

602
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: didn't go well for him.

603
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: For you could also offer Son in the second Anderson

604
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: Silva fight in this conversation unnecessary spinny shit that led.

605
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: To you losing. Yeah, even Chipchenko Grosso, It's kind of

606
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: very true.

607
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: Look, I want to you know, you just identified a

608
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: couple of Russians who brought the absolute hammer. Speaking of

609
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: Hammer of the Month, shout out to that old thing.

610
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: But this turk Luke, Turkmenistan, Dovletzov, Dude, he did it

611
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: in fifty eight seconds. Like you gotta shout him out here.

612
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: He's a hold on, hold on. So I went back

613
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: and I watched this one. I was like, how did

614
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: this happen? Because Impa had an incredible story last season

615
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: and then he gets to this one and he's kicking

616
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: ass again. And we even said on Friday, like, man,

617
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: can you imagine the two guys we had sort of

618
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: mentioned Locknane and Impa, two guys who could have won

619
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: back to backttorneys and completely transformed their wealth. They're still

620
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: going to do obviously really well. They already won the

621
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: last one, but they didn't quite meet that threshold. But

622
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: in the case of Impa, dude, if you actually watch that,

623
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: he's kind of like lunging into Yuksha Muradov and then

624
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: stance switches and then goes square and stops, and that's

625
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: what he gets hit. It's like, I cannot tell you

626
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: how little that happens in boxing, where guys switch stances

627
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: through range, stop when they're square and get nailed. It

628
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: almost never happens because those guys just don't make mistakes

629
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: like that.

630
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: That kind of what al Jo didn't to lose the title.

631
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: I have to go back and look at these exact sequence.

632
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't remember that was an open side counter, so

633
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: it's more like a retreat. Get him to extend and

634
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: then come over the top. He may have been square

635
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: by that point. I have to go back and look.

636
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: But in any case, you know, I'm sure imp and

637
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: knows that I'm not saying anything. He doesn't know. He

638
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: was probably gonna want that one back big time. I

639
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: get it. I totally get it. But you know, you

640
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: have to grade that performance based on a decision like

641
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: that for what it is, and you know, that's not

642
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: a rookie mistake, but it's an unforgivable one.

643
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: And you know I felt the same way. You know,

644
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: god Zeer Erbodanov had such a hell of a tournament

645
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: and a run to this belt in this one million dollars,

646
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: but I'm like Brent premis man to have that turnaround

647
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: at thirty nine and make the run that we're talking about,

648
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: and then just no head movement in this in this

649
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: final matchup, and it was seemed just inevitable that every

650
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: punch was being thrown was catching him clean, that he

651
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: was going to go down. But he had a heck

652
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: of a run, but man, to see it go that way,

653
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: I felt bad for him.

654
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if I felt bad, but that's

655
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: why Rabodanov's run was great. But I have to kind

656
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: of grate them a little bit on a curve for

657
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: that reason. Nevertheless, though some great wins for these guys,

658
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: and as we mentioned in like an all Russian affair,

659
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: seemingly up and down, this main card really speaks to

660
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: the prowess of them now.

661
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: But do you want to say do you want to

662
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: just say though it's like Rabodanov has his biggest moment,

663
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: I'm suddenly like, damn, I'd like to see him on

664
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: whatever championship level they have, and they're like, oh wait,

665
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: he is their champion now they're you know, this this

666
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: year's champion. But this is the problem with the current

667
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: setup because then you're like, okay, well, who's the best,

668
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: like oh Sman Normaga Metov who's sort of unnecessarily defending

669
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: the Bellator title now in cards that are going to

670
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: be put in Dubai. If they could fix that glitch, Luke,

671
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: now we could be talking about is Robodenoff good enough

672
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: to beat Usmann? Like one champion? Okay, one promotion here,

673
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: let's get let's get that together. I hate that. Don't

674
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: you hate better alone?

675
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 5: No?

676
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: No, no, speaking of that, let's get to topic number two.

677
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: So there has been a lot of criticism about the PFL,

678
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: a lot of curiosity, and a lot of good things

679
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: that have happened. It's a mix, but if there's one

680
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: kind of common denominator, it's that people generally still aren't

681
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: quite comfortable with the product, and there's a lot of

682
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: demand for change. Even this twenty twenty four PFL championships

683
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: came with elbows that were allowed in all of the fights,

684
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: not just the title ones, and that was well received.

685
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: And I think if you go back and BC to

686
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: the Dakotah Ditscheva fight, the use of the elbows there

687
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: were absolutely fantastic and played an important role and gave

688
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: the fans some more to be excited about. But allowing

689
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: elbows seems like a pretty small thing. You can do it,

690
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: but it doesn't necessarily change the entire dynamic of what's happening.

691
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: But what would So for topic number two, we're going

692
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: to go and pick three things we would each do

693
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: for the PFL to change in twenty twenty five to

694
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: make a better product. B See, I'd like to pitch

695
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: it to you first. I know you've written a column

696
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: similar to this kind of concept, which may have been

697
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger. But give me your top three

698
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: What are the changes PFL should make in twenty twenty

699
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: five for a more dynamic product?

700
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: Okay, my number one, and then, to be fair, my

701
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: number one kind of extends into everything, and I wrote,

702
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: I guess the top five for CBS Sports heading into

703
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: this card about things I think PFL should do or

704
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: could do to try to do what they say they're doing.

705
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: Which is we're not here to be number two, We're

706
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: here to compete with UFC for number one. So what

707
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: would be my biggest point of concern the fact that

708
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: they so aggressively build horizontally and don't seem to be

709
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: putting their best strength, their best powers together and giving

710
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: one big swing. How could you compete with the number

711
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: one when you're trying so hard to establish eighteen brands

712
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: under your banner and all these different championships. We've got

713
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: a Super Fight Championship, We've got a regular season tournament championship,

714
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: we got Bello Tourt champions I think there's a few

715
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: other champions in there too that it's like, it's kind

716
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: of like when you watch Kitchen and Nightmares or any

717
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: of these celebrity chef shows, what's the first thing they

718
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: do when they go into a struggling restaurant. They're like, Oh,

719
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: your menu has four hundred items on it. We're gonna

720
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: bring that down to nine. Like, it's hard to be

721
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: as aggressive as PFL is trying to be by diversifying

722
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: and stretching out horizontally when it's at the at the

723
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: stake of, you know, watering down your actual overall product.

724
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: Like it's cool that you can call yourself the Champions

725
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: League of MMA, like you know, like it's the EPL

726
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: or some other soccer comparison, but like who cares, So

727
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: I would say the biggest way to like I enjoyed

728
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: that final card. I didn't watch a live, but I

729
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: you know, I enjoyed that. By the way, I think

730
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 2: swapping out Ken Flow and bringing in Dan Hardy, this

731
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: trio is pretty damn good, pretty damn elite in terms

732
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: of Randy Couture and Sean O'Connell. There, Dan Hardy as

733
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: an interviewer is kind of becoming my favorite for that job,

734
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: although I think Rogan is still super early in that

735
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: specific role of the post fight interview. But like, I

736
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: liked a lot of this, but I want to continue

737
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: to like it, and the way to do that is almost,

738
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: in my opinion, in old school pro wrestling territory mindset

739
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: or pride mindset of like storylining and everything playing together.

740
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 2: Every match, every fight should lead and carry on toward

741
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: the ultimate goal of the title. Well, the problem is

742
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: we got too many titles and we got too many brands,

743
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: and it's confusing and it just waters down what PFL

744
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: has a puncher's chance of making a dent in what

745
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: UFC does in the control they have, you can argue

746
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: to how big that dent can ever become. But like,

747
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: competition is great, it's fun, it fuels entertainment. Why wouldn't

748
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: you take your entire roster, bring it together, one champion

749
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: per division, simplify it and say this is what we got.

750
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: I don't care how many pay per views you try.

751
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 2: It's your financial risk, but give yourself a fighting chance.

752
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: Like it's cool that you signed Jake Paul, but what

753
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: does that mean for the cage. It's school you signed

754
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: Amanda Serrano, but what does that mean for the MMA cage? Right?

755
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,959
Speaker 2: And God, who's only fault once? But if you could

756
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: take some of these guys on Friday that we did

757
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: enjoy and now it's like, oh, well, they haven't fought

758
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: these bellatour guys over here, guys, bring it together and

759
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: give yourself one chance at swingin big and catching Strikeforce,

760
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: Magic or bellatore At at certain points when they had

761
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 2: certain strategies and they were making, especially on live cable TV,

762
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: huge impacts in the sport. So Luke, I know I

763
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: just gave you like eighteen answers in one. But it

764
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 2: all goes back, in my opinion, to building upwards before

765
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: you even consider buying all the properties on the monopoly board,

766
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: Like nobody cares if you have eighteen different sub prom

767
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: We want to see your best fighters. We like your

768
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: broadcast for the most part, tell us stories. Weave it together,

769
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: and then let the best fight the best. And then

770
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: you can maybe have an argument that you've got the

771
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: best division in this specific awight class and better than

772
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: the UFC. But you're never gonna be able to make

773
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: that argument unless you take all the items in your

774
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: cupboard that we care about and put it together and

775
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: make some fun comfort meals here, all right, Like, stop

776
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: overvaluing what you have. You don't have it yet, So look,

777
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: I'll throw it back to you. I hope you're gonna

778
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: get on them for selling some tickets live, But like

779
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: I think, before you do anything to make changes, take

780
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: your biggest swing with your best product, put them all together.

781
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: Enough of this separation segregation bullshit.

782
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I can't agree more with you got

783
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: to build vertically in that horizontally having a thousand brands.

784
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: If you have two quarterbacks, you have none. If you

785
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: have the chance no one is asking for the Champions

786
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: League of MMA, especially when the real Champions League involves

787
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: the most popular sport on the most well financed continent,

788
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: between the world's most adored brands with the world's best players.

789
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: Not a single part of that involves anything the PFL

790
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: is doing, and so you have to be consistent and

791
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: understand that from the get go. I did pick three

792
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: of them. Now I could pick three hundred of them,

793
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: because I genuinely think the product needs that much work. However,

794
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: the three ones that I would pick BC would be

795
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: as follows. To move this segment forward. Number one, I

796
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: think they should keep the tournament, but like Bellator, one

797
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: tournament at a time, one tournament at a time, pick

798
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: a weight class, pick a moment in time, select and

799
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: identify which weight class best suited for this. Make it

800
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: for one million dollars and run that thing through the

801
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: course of a season, or maybe you can run it

802
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: for half and then another half like you could run

803
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: two a year at most, but one tournament at a time.

804
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: First and foremost. Number two BC. This might be my

805
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: most controversial one, so I'd be very curious to get

806
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: some feedback from you in this I do not understand

807
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: what the point is of having a traveling circus if

808
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: nobody shows up to see it wherever it goes. I

809
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: don't get that. I don't get while you're in San

810
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: Antonio one week and you're in Detroit the next, and

811
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: you're in San Diego the next one, and you're in

812
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: Florida for that one. If you've got about one hundred

813
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: to five hundred people in attendance at any given time,

814
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: it seems to me a gigantic waste of resources and

815
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: personnel and time. Now, is it the long term goal

816
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: to be able to go to San Antonio and Atlanta

817
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: and Tampa. Of course it is. That can be a

818
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: place long term that you want to get to, but

819
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: that is not even remotely where they are now, and

820
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: it seems very foolish to spend money in that direction.

821
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: What I think would be best is if they had

822
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: some kind of and hear me out on this, what

823
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call it intimate venue, but mid intimate venue,

824
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: somewhere around one thousand to maybe two thousand people seated

825
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: at most in a home base Apex like scenario. To me, BC,

826
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: I really don't like that the UFC's and the apex

827
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: in part because it facilitates having this bloated roster, and

828
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: also they actually can go on the road and sell

829
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: tickets and are choosing not to. That is very, very

830
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: different from what the PFL is doing, which is choosing

831
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: not to save by having a more intimate home base

832
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: and then going on the road and then having to

833
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: pay per events. And even that doesn't really work. The

834
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: two should be flipped, or at least there should be

835
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: some differences in how they both currently approach it. It

836
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: is the PFL that is in need of their own apex. Now.

837
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: I don't mean like a barn warehouse where it's echoing

838
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 1: and no one's showing up to that. Either some kind

839
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: of a place, whether it's the guys are from DC.

840
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: You could put it here, or New York or someplace

841
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: cheap Florida, I don't care. I don't care where it

842
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: is someplace where you can reliably pack in a few

843
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: hundred to maybe more people at a time, and you

844
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: can get these shows in there, you can make it

845
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: look how you want, you can save on these costs,

846
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: and then BC you go on the road with cards

847
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: that you're making the best available fights on. Before I

848
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: go any further, What do you think of that.

849
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 2: You're nailing it. You're absolutely nailing it's inevitably, it's just simplify.

850
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: They're trying to do way too much. They're like when

851
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: a rich, you know, celebrity person buys a sports team

852
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: and thinks they can run it, you know, video games

853
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: style or fantasy football style, and then you kind of realize,

854
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: I mean, look, i'd add onto there, like empower MMA

855
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: people to make MMA decisions. That seems that's my number two, right,

856
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: that's got it? Like they're smart people in that company,

857
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: you know, Dan, Hardy, Randikatora Racepha. I mean, there's a

858
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: bunch of experienced names who've been through different parts of

859
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: this business and been through the wars. I just don't

860
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: get the feeling that MMA decisions are being made all

861
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: the time by MMA people. So can I add one

862
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: more on top of that one?

863
00:40:59,560 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: Please?

864
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: You don't have to try to get somebody that meets

865
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: Dana's personalities or quirks or style, but they've got to

866
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: have a mouthpiece for the company. And I by the way,

867
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: I said this about PBC and boxing. I think that's

868
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: the one miss they've had too of being too silent

869
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 2: and two behind the scenes, they've got to have a

870
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: voice that in my opinion, the public fight fans in

871
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: the media like trust and find credible and you can

872
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: still protect the company and do the used car salesman stuff.

873
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: But I think right now, what we get from the

874
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: pfl's faces, from Peter Murray, from Don Davis is like

875
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: we've already won the battle talk, you know what I mean.

876
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: Like there's trying to show you, like are you not

877
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: intelligent enough to see how successful they are right now?

878
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: And it's like you don't want your fans and your critics,

879
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: in my opinion, to question, like do they have the

880
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: right people running the show? Give us a mouthpiece that

881
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: can be accessible, that can be the between that can

882
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: sell your vision better and hopefully that can steer this

883
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: ship toward simplifying and making more MMA decisions above making

884
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: TV decisions or you know, marketing decisions. Like at some

885
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: point at the end of the day, what are you selling.

886
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: If you're selling MMA, then make MMA the leading sell

887
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: make like give us your best cut of the steak.

888
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: And that involves everything I said before. Consolidate and come

889
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: with it. Come with it, you know what I mean?

890
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: You don't just talk like you carry a big stick.

891
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: Let's go load it up and swing it right right, Luke.

892
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I totally agree. May I give you my my

893
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: third and final one here a little bit. If someone

894
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: asks you what does pepsi taste like, you can't just

895
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: say not like coke. It doesn't tell you much. And

896
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: by the way, it also doesn't take anything great because

897
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: coca cola tastes great. It's sort of brand is synonymous

898
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: with great tasting cocoa or great great tasting cola, great

899
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: tasting soda, whatever you want to call it pop depending

900
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: on where you're from. But saying that what pepsi is

901
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: different than coke? But what does that mean? It has

902
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: no identity and it has really no way to share.

903
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: Like a concept, you have to do something that is

904
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: very different from them. Now, of course, you are constrained

905
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: by what you can do in the United States and

906
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: a lot of other regulated territories. But here's what I mean. Rather,

907
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: you cannot be Coca cola, so don't even try to

908
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: be don't even try to be a pepsi cola, which

909
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: again is going to have a hard time identifying itself

910
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: as a coherent brand and identity. They need to be

911
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: mountain dew. They need to have a rule set that

912
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: catches the eye. They need to have a rule set

913
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: that sets itself apart and makes it a genuine alternative.

914
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: If there is one thing that they can take from

915
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: one championship, it is the notion that they are a

916
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: genuine alternative to the UFC. Now, they have their own problems,

917
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: and we've been over in a million times. It's not

918
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: asking to borrow everything that they do, but they are different.

919
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: They are meaningfully different. PFL as it stands, is a

920
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: place where also good fighters fight, But what is their

921
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: brand identity? When the WEC was around before being acquired,

922
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: it had an identity, and maybe some of that was

923
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: a little bit of romanticism, is somewhat in hindsight, but

924
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: it was like your smaller guys. It's action packed, it's

925
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: highly technical. It was a great different, dynamic product. The

926
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: UFC couldn't even compete with that. So you know what

927
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: they did. They just fucking bought them. They just said

928
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: we're gonna take those weight classes those guys have and

929
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: just make them ours. That is doing something a little

930
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: bit different. Now we're in a different age. We can't

931
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: just go to different weight classes and as easily just

932
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: come up with some kind of alternative. But if your

933
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: program is just gonna be hey, we also do nice

934
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: and shiny looking broadcast TV. It's just also UFC. But

935
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: not with guys you've heard of. Nothing good will ever

936
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: happen here. There must be some kind of a meaningful

937
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: differentiator in how the product is made in order to

938
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: set itself apart as an actual not even so much

939
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: competitor alternative for UFC fans.

940
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: Yes, and look, that is why the mouthpiece, in my opinion,

941
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: has to be filled and has to be filled first.

942
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it can be a chl

943
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 2: Sun and I don't know if he's the perfect fit

944
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: for that. But like everything you just said, everything I

945
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 2: said about you want to be able to trust the brand. Look,

946
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 2: when promoters are at their best, they're not just great

947
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: entertainment salesmen. They're like, I don't know, they're like leading

948
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 2: a cause and then they can you know, they can

949
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: get you caught up in the cause. That's probably Dana's

950
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: greatest strength back in the day when UFC was climbing

951
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: like he made you want that for that company, and

952
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: by proxy, the whole sport to succeed, to be the underdog,

953
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: the little legit that could. I think PFL should embrace

954
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: that side of the identity because if you're swinging big

955
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 2: at the big number one, that's that's basically designed how

956
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: this game is played. At the highest level, you are

957
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: an underdog story. So I think you need that off

958
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 2: piece so they can set the narratives week to week

959
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: and they can be that storyteller in constantly getting people

960
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: on your side and leaning into your chances of disrupting

961
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: the market. Uh, but I don't think they have that

962
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: right now. I mean, I don't think that you can

963
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 2: put enough value in that, Luke. That's just my opinion,

964
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: and it doesn't have to be somebody like Dana. Like

965
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: Scott Cooker is not the most charismatic guy, but I

966
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: think we trusted him to a certain degree and respected

967
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: the fight that he was taking on, and you know,

968
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 2: wanted that to succeed. They got to get us waving

969
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 2: the flag and saying no hold on PFL is really good.

970
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: Like you don't have to be the ECW, but you

971
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: have to have ECW level disruption, and they haven't figured

972
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: out the right formula to disrupt yet BC.

973
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: We didn't mention this, but one X factor for twenty

974
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: twenty five is absolutely going to be the Francis and

975
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: Gon who sweepstakes, Yes, and how they play that. Let's

976
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: show this on the screen. This was a tweet he

977
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: sent over the weekend. John Jones still out here, I

978
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: mean on Thanksgiving replying to people about being called a

979
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: duck in John was like crazy, how being called a

980
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: duck pays better than most of you Internet tough guys

981
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: will make in a lifetime. Hey, in fairness, John, there

982
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: was an only Fans model who revealed they made four

983
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: million a month forty eight million in a year. They

984
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: make more than him. And you know, I don't know

985
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: how noble it is, but doesn't really happen.

986
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: This person showing aw s luke Like what level.

987
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: I'm not, I don't know. I've not paid for it,

988
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: but whatever it is, it's working. I could say that

989
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 1: if you're making fifty million year showing buttthole and feet,

990
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: I mean, God, bless you. So Francis replies to this

991
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: and says, blessings make haters uncomfortable, but they can't change it.

992
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: There is only one fight, the right fight that will

993
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: multiply your blessings hashtag and Gonu versus Jones. You see,

994
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: I wonder what you make of this on what the

995
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: PFL canon should do. Goltsov is not a bad fight.

996
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: I don't hate that fight, but it's got not a

997
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: lot of juice. What should they do.

998
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: If they're doing what I think they're doing, like a

999
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: calculated move in the direction which they should even if

1000
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: you think it's a hell Mary the embrace of Hey John,

1001
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: forget about the aspinall fight. We know you don't it,

1002
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: but you should want this one, the real legacy fight

1003
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: and the only way it's gonna happen. And we're not

1004
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: there yet in the build where we're talking this honestly,

1005
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: and maybe we never will. I'm trying to think of

1006
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 2: it too much in pro wrestling terms. But the real

1007
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: cell here is that this this fight has the potential

1008
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: to be so special and such a once in a

1009
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: lifetime If you want to make a comparison to you know,

1010
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: Landmark Rumble in the jungle type fights in boxing. Has

1011
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: MMA had that yet? Well, you had Fador versus Crow Cop,

1012
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: which had like a you know, pro wrestling field and

1013
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: sort of like the regalness of it and the build

1014
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: and the yeah, but we don't get that too often.

1015
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: So this is the right move. If this is Francis

1016
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: and PFL Brass teaming up and going like we've got

1017
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: to change the narrative and we've got to aggressively put

1018
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 2: out there that this fight is possible, it could be made.

1019
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: It just comes down I mean, I think they should be.

1020
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: This is where I think taking on again almost a

1021
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: pro wrestling angle of heel work here publicly of trying

1022
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: to go them into it, put it out there, say

1023
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: to the media the only person holding this super fight

1024
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 2: of super fights up from happening is Dana White, Because Luke,

1025
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if you were if we're learning what we're starting,

1026
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: you know from reading the john S Nashes and the

1027
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 2: MMA draws, and we're starting to really understand the for

1028
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: the first time for some of us, like the real

1029
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: business of this business. Then like I wonder if it's

1030
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: best for business TKO business that UFC did entertain some

1031
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: type of Jones and Gan who crossover since they're on

1032
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: the same network, Like it's not you know, I think

1033
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: this is the right move. If this is everybody's saying, like,

1034
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: hold on, we got one chance at this we know

1035
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: that John doesn't even want that super fight that they're

1036
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: trying to build. Why wouldn't you, Why wouldn't you go

1037
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 2: to the level of embarrassing yourself even to try to

1038
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: put that out there and get people talking about it.

1039
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: So I support this, Luke, you think I'm crazy.

1040
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't think you're crazy. But there was one idea

1041
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: that was poop pood and let me be clear, I

1042
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: don't like it. I'm not going to tell you this

1043
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: because I like it, saying if we're trying to save

1044
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: pfl's fortunes, which is a different conversation, what would what

1045
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: would we do? B see if it were me and

1046
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: I was at the PFL, and I know people would complain,

1047
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't matter. I would try and book a

1048
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: uh you know, a changed rules about because I'm not

1049
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: sure what you would call it, to have striking only

1050
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: but with like MMA sensibility between Deontay Wilder and Francis

1051
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: in the PFL smart cage. Yes, right, I would not

1052
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: let that fight take place in boxing if I had

1053
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: any way to stop it.

1054
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: You might be able to convince well, you might be

1055
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 2: able to convince Jake if it's a success to Jake

1056
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: to try something stupid like that under.

1057
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: Year hundred and again, would the fight be stupid? Almost certainly?

1058
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: Has Deontay Wilder been shot for a while now? No, Like,

1059
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: without question, I'm not telling you I would like it.

1060
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,959
Speaker 1: What I'm telling you is, if you're trying to book

1061
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: something on curiosity, at least exploring ideas like that is

1062
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: going to be much better for them. Because you can't,

1063
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: you're locked out of the monopoly with UFC and goltsov Is.

1064
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: As we said, dude, that was a how many times

1065
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: do you see a heavyweight win from a win from

1066
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: their guard these days? I mean, it's so incredibly rare.

1067
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: And he choked the guy out completely and pomp Off

1068
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: like did a great job. He's a great fighter. I

1069
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: have a ton of respect for him, But there's not

1070
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: a lot of juice to it because of Koloh. Those

1071
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: goddamn tournaments don't do a lot for a lot of

1072
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: these guys in terms of changing how the public perceives

1073
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: them or even making them recognize more broadly, something like

1074
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: this gets you a little bit closer, even though it's

1075
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: gimmicky and fucking crazy as hell. Honestly, some what is

1076
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: the UFC doing you can't do that, try something a

1077
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: little bit different and then do more of that.

1078
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: If they don't open up the rosters in my opinion,

1079
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: like first thing twenty twenty five and maybe just come

1080
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: out and I think, I guess to do that, you

1081
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: probably have to change your format, which I still think

1082
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: is one of the biggest things they should do. We've

1083
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: talked about it. You agree, drop the regular season and

1084
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: playoff thing. It's too grueling. So once you get him

1085
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: to that point, I think we're gonna find out if

1086
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: they're truly serious when this new year starts, because right

1087
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: now they've got to split roster people in almost separate

1088
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: divisions or federations, but there's no interleague play or I guess,

1089
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 2: outside of the one pay per view where they tried

1090
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: that and then the actual second pay per view to

1091
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: open the air, which was probably the high points of

1092
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: the year for PFL. The PFL versus Bellatore pay per

1093
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: view in February and the October and Ghana one, and

1094
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: to some degree both were successes, at least critically. I

1095
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: don't know about, you know, commercially, but well, the a

1096
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: Ghana one seem to definitely be commercially, but like they

1097
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: got to I don't know, man, they really got to

1098
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: lean in that idea, Like you've got to start building

1099
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: up to what the possibility of the big breakthrough fights

1100
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: can be. You've got to really just if they start

1101
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: this year separating the rosters, who else are they? Like

1102
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: what's been the biggest problem with the belatour fighters in

1103
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: pflatur so far, outside of like what app are they

1104
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 2: on and why can't I find it? It's really been like, oh,

1105
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: they're just rematching fights. We've already seen them fight in Bellator. Well,

1106
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 2: then you mirror that with the problem already the pfl

1107
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: tournament format, it's rematches constantly all the time, only it's

1108
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 2: largely rematches of like some second and third rate fighters

1109
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: to be very fair, right, So you have more need

1110
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 2: than ever to cross pollinate, merge the rosters together and

1111
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 2: give us fresh matchups. If they open the new year

1112
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: without that and they're just leaning on, well, if we

1113
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 2: can get one big pay per view or something, then

1114
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: the ship's gonna sink. But they gotta start. They gotta

1115
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: like the match, That's what I'm saying. Like every time

1116
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: they get a spark, they act like they've won already

1117
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: and this is proof of concept. They got a long

1118
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: way to go. But I think, in my opinion, if

1119
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 2: they open the new year with that same structural format,

1120
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: which is the biggest thing holding them back, then I'm

1121
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: gonna know what direction they're head of the.

1122
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: Just remember and we see. I think you know the

1123
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: answer to this. Who is the most popular fighter in

1124
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 1: the history of Bellator? Kimbo, Kimbo Slice, Kimbo versus Ken Shamrock,

1125
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: and kim Bo versus Data. Again, you can only do

1126
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: these in limited doses. It cannot be the core of

1127
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: your product, otherwise it will fail as well. You cannot

1128
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: go down that path. But never forget that the most

1129
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: popular fighter in the history of Bellator by a considerable

1130
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: margin is Kimbo freaking Slice. That is why he got used,

1131
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: and it was very very helpful for them, at least

1132
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: at that time. In trying to stand out from the crowd.

1133
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: PFL needs not to go down a path where that's

1134
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: what they do, but where they can sprinkle that in.

1135
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: I think we may be among other changes well well received. BC.

1136
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Speaker 1: Speaking of well received, every time I wear my true

1137
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1138
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1139
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Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about it.

1140
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: I get compliments. Hell, you started the show talking about it.

1141
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: My wife freaking loves it. The fit, you know what

1142
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean. I buy a lot of T shirts. I

1143
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Speaker 1: buy a lot of T shirts from a lot of places.

1144
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Speaker 1: The fit doesn't always work. I don't know how you feel,

1145
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Speaker 1: but the fit for True Classic, for me, is like

1146
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Speaker 1: a glove.

1147
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Speaker 2: It's a game changer. If you've been working out, it

1148
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Speaker 2: only amplifies the work you've been doing. And Luke, sometimes

1149
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: if you're in between or you're having your best form,

1150
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: they do a lot to make the most of what

1151
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: you're bringing to the table. And I mean that it

1152
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Speaker 2: can be hard to be a middle aged dad and

1153
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Speaker 2: sometimes fall in and out of the priority of the

1154
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: things that we know we need to do. But this

1155
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Speaker 2: is like the right fit at the right time, high

1156
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Speaker 2: quality products at an affordable price. Like it's just more

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1158
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Speaker 2: But first and foremost, even separate from the price, it's

1159
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1161
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1162
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. That almost dictates everything when it

1163
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Speaker 2: comes to fashion and the success of trying to pull

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Speaker 2: something off.

1165
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Speaker 1: Especially as you get older as you indicate. And also

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Speaker 2: when I walk in with True True Classic on I

1184
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1185
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: that's the truth at the end of the day. So

1186
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Speaker 2: it's up to you, guys. It's up to you, all.

1187
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Speaker 1: Right, all right, please support our show. Tell them we

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Speaker 1: You see. With that in mind, let's move the show

1191
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: along to topic number three if we can. And of

1192
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: course you know what the deal is. UFC three ten

1193
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: is this weekend. It's the last pay per view of

1194
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: the year for the Ultimate Fighting Championship. Now there's a

1195
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: lot of consternation because Blal Muhammad is not going to

1196
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: be defending his title against Hamsatchman. Excuse me, mamsuch, mom,

1197
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: I should say rather Rochmanov. So there is, you know,

1198
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: a change to it fell out and now Kayas Sakara

1199
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: is going to be challenging ale Chandra Pantoje for the

1200
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: Flyway title in the main event. But BC, if you

1201
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: look up and down this card, like any card, but

1202
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: especially for pay per views, there are a couple of gyms,

1203
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: sometimes hidden, sometimes hiding and play in sight. Tell me

1204
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: in your mind, I know we're going to do a

1205
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: big preview on Friday, but right now, big one most

1206
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: underappreciated storyline heading into the last pay per view of

1207
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: the year for the UFC.

1208
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 2: Dude, I think it's not. I think it fits all

1209
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: the categories. I think it's the biggest, most important one

1210
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: entering this card, and I didn't think it's the one

1211
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: where we'd be having because if this when this card

1212
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: as originally booked, Schofcott Rockmanov was story you know, cashing

1213
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: in his money in the bank and showing us on

1214
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 2: the title level how great he can be and whether

1215
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: the destruction he left behind was at that level. But

1216
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: now let's see on the championship level or oh no,

1217
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: he's that dude. And now it's flipped, in my opinion

1218
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 2: completely with the way things went with Ballall getting hurt

1219
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: and now it's not a title fight, but it is

1220
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: a firm number one contender, big five round opportunity. It's

1221
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: Ian Gary. It's not just how big he is Balls

1222
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: we found out when he signed up for this and

1223
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: he accepted it. It's not just that like almost you know,

1224
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: babyface turn that he's been on in the public eye

1225
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: ever since, all the negativity about his wife and all

1226
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: that stuff with Kolby Covington. I mean, he's been through

1227
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: some dark turns in the social age, for sure, but

1228
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: his reputation has turned in the process, and I really

1229
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: think for me it's about Okay, that's as tough as

1230
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: a step up fight as you can make in any

1231
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: division for somebody at the point of where Ian Gary

1232
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: is in his career, where on paper it looks great

1233
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 2: and for the most part, I do believe in him,

1234
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: Like I take more positives and negatives at each of

1235
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: his tough step ups that he's been on before this,

1236
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 2: but he's yet to really have that big showcase perfection,

1237
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: walk through destruction fight where we're like, damn, he's arrived.

1238
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: He's Luke from you know, Chapter six, Return of the Jedi,

1239
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: Like he's dressed in black and he's here to kick

1240
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: some ass. He hasn't hit that moment yet, and if

1241
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: he is for real, he's gonna hit that moment against

1242
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: the boss at the end of the video game. So yeah,

1243
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 2: how many cliches can I fit in one long rant?

1244
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 2: Count for yourself. But Luke, tell me I'm not alone

1245
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: in really circling that. Look. I don't know. I don't

1246
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: know if Ian matchiae Olgary is the real But dude,

1247
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: we're a but buckle up, get me some popcorn, because

1248
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: we're about to find out. And it just so happens

1249
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: that he's going up against the largest sword of your

1250
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: bone air collection, Luke, and that is Shavcot.

1251
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: Rockman Off been on the shov Cut rock Mono of

1252
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: Boner Trains since the day one, my friend. Don't think

1253
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: I know, I have to. You can't even call me

1254
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: a late comer to that one. No, I certainly share

1255
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: all of your enthusiasm. I gotta tell you, do I

1256
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, Okay, it's different because I

1257
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: think let me let me double check. This is that fight?

1258
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,959
Speaker 1: How many rounds? Is that fight? Still five? Still? Five?

1259
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: But there's no title on the line? Do you like?

1260
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: Forget about the title being involved? Just fight? Do you

1261
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: like rockmanoff Muhammed better or rockmanoff Gary better?

1262
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: Rockmanoff Gary? There's more to learn, There's more and things

1263
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: I want to really see. I mean, look, they're both

1264
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: great fights, and this is nothing against ballal like I

1265
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: I really want. I think it's gonna play out perfectly

1266
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: because Shavcott should be Machiado Gary. The odds will tell

1267
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: you that we know that the entertainment values I just

1268
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: mentioned is finding out how great Gary can be. But uh,

1269
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: I think it still leads back there, Luke, and I

1270
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: think we're gonna see a very interesting fight if we

1271
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: do get to Shavkap versus Ball, which I think we will.

1272
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: I love this contest, and I gotta tell you, dude,

1273
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: I just think about this for a second. You know,

1274
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: I favor Rockmanov to win. I don't think that. I'm

1275
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: sure the odds do Long Island. Luke, what are the

1276
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: odds roughly right now for Rockmanov heading into this Gary fight?

1277
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Speaker 4: It's like minus three to twenty Rockmanov like plus two

1278
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 4: seventy five.

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Speaker 1: Ish Ian Garrett, how do you feel about that value?

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01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 4: I'm not taking ean Gary.

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Speaker 1: That's how I feel. So this is my point, BC.

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01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: I think Rockmanov probably will win, right. Can you imagine

1283
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: the meltdown that will happen if Gary finds a way

1284
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: to win, and not just that like wins somehow impressively.

1285
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: He is going to melt down all of in cells

1286
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: like in cel mma, like they will lose their fucking

1287
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: mind over this.

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01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 2: There will be a dragon ball zed explosion of of

1289
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: of what do you call that stuff, Luke? Anime all

1290
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 2: over there'd be Yeah, there's a look, there's anime all

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Speaker 2: over my laptop.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: Okay, uh, that's what I'm saying, dude, Seriously, those are

1294
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: the breakthrough moments like that's like, it's the same thing

1295
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: by the way it appears. We're and we'll probably talk

1296
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: about it. We're probably getting this Floyd Schofield, kid Austin

1297
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: like extreme step up against Shakers Stevenson and for all

1298
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: the people that are saying, you know that fights too

1299
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: early or it's reckless or whatever. You do want to

1300
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: find out, Luke, And there's only one way to find out,

1301
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: right at the highest freaking level with the brightest lights.

1302
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: These are the gladiators, Luke. That's why we love and

1303
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 2: respect them. But yeah, this would be one of those

1304
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: holy shit, remember like, never forget the way we felt

1305
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: heading in type of things where we were assured that

1306
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: one guy was the absolute hammer, you know, the absolute realist.

1307
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's possible, Luke, but damn, you gotta favorite

1308
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: shop Cut. You gotta favor them comfortably from what we

1309
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: know right now.

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Speaker 1: For what we know, I favorite shot Cut. I just

1311
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: think I would love it if shot cut one, because

1312
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: I think a rewarding a guy who gave up a

1313
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: title fight just to stay active is actually pretty important

1314
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: that you do that. Also, he's you know, undefeated and

1315
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: finishes everybody, Like you know, I want to see that continue,

1316
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: just because I think it'd be awesome. On the other hand,

1317
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: on the other hand, if Gary somehow wins, however unlikely

1318
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: we might perceive it, it will destroy the lives of the

1319
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: worst people, you know, and so therefore it's almost more

1320
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: desirable to get that dude.

1321
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: What if he just headkicked him in round two and

1322
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 2: knocked Shavka out with the kind of shot that was

1323
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 2: just perfect and anyone would have gotten hit with it, Yeah,

1324
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 2: which is possible. Like we hate stars being forced upon

1325
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: us until we've proven and seen how great they actually are.

1326
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: It's sort of that that that tension that's always bickering

1327
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: against one another. That's why when you get those moments

1328
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 2: the poster right here that you can't see al Do

1329
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: versus McGregor, it's why those moments end up and framed

1330
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 2: on your wall, because that's the ultimate Like I know Connor,

1331
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: I know Connor still had doubters after that, right, but

1332
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: that's the ultimate like, f you you know, here's my ticket.

1333
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 2: I belong here. You know what I'm saying, Like, we

1334
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: love when that transaction happens through the cage or through

1335
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: the boxing ring, rather than through social media or through

1336
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 2: a promoter playing you up.

1337
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm not even thinking about that. I'm just telling you

1338
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: it's nine to eleven for in Cells. If he and

1339
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: Gary wins, it's straight up September eleventh for them. It

1340
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: would be fucking hilarious. All right, Yeah, but that's but

1341
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: that is not my pick. Allthough it's a great pick,

1342
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: it's not my pick. My pick is a little bit different.

1343
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: Oh bring it, Luke, I have to go with al

1344
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: Jamaine Sterling versus Mozar of loy sitting on the fucking

1345
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: preliminary card. We have a clip of al Jamaine Sterling

1346
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: kind of talking about where he's at in the lead

1347
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: up to this fight. Long, look, let's play it.

1348
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 6: I wasn't really excited about the fight in a very

1349
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 6: very beginning because no one knows who the guy is.

1350
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 6: I know who he is, I know he's very good,

1351
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 6: but it's hard to get excited about something when you

1352
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 6: go from fight well known guys like Pioyan, Corey Sanhegen, TJ. Dillashaw,

1353
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 6: Henry s Udo, like those are big names, even though

1354
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 6: Mallley has a much bigger name here in the States,

1355
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 6: even before he even fought for a bell, you know,

1356
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 6: he's one of the more popular guys in the division

1357
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 6: back then. So with that said, it was a little

1358
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 6: bit harder for me to get excited about the matchup,

1359
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 6: which is why I called for Brian Ortega, even Diego Lopez.

1360
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 6: People that the world, not just that one side of

1361
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 6: the world. Everybody knows who these guys are. That's that's

1362
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 6: what gets you out of bed, gets you motivated to

1363
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 6: want to train and really put a stamp on the performance,

1364
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 6: you know. So I think some people started to come

1365
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 6: around after there's some trash talk back and forth, and

1366
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 6: I think that's given me a little bit more motivation

1367
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 6: to want to take the fight. And I was the

1368
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 6: only one who called them out. You know, a lot

1369
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 6: of these guys they don't want to fight Mozart, And

1370
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 6: I was like, all right, if no one else wants

1371
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 6: to fight them, I'll go out there and I'll be

1372
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 6: the hit man and I'll take care of this mission

1373
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 6: and go out there, take him out and I'll fight

1374
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 6: for the bill next.

1375
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: So I love this fight and I agree with almost

1376
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: everything he's saying there. Ev Loid is sitting at five,

1377
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: Sterling's sitting at nine. So first of all, just practically,

1378
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: what could he win a space inside the top five.

1379
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,479
Speaker 1: But when you think about that, you've got bulk there.

1380
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: Max probably was not going to take that, So he's

1381
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: gone diego sitting there waiting for one. Yaeir is then

1382
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: above him, like you. In other words, there are a

1383
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: couple of things that have to get resolved at the top,

1384
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: but at that point you are not far from a

1385
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: title shot. Dude, it is unbelievable. You're talking about in

1386
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: al ja Man Sterling, a Bantawey champion who won three

1387
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: times and this you know it's not his fault. The

1388
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: Dilshaw one should never have happened, but it does count

1389
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: a good champion for as long as it lasted in

1390
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: a very difficult division. I want to point that out.

1391
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: He was on his way to losing the first Yon fight,

1392
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: and then in the second fight left no doubt about

1393
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: it right. Took the Shan O'Malley fight on short notice,

1394
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: and it didn't go well for him. But in general

1395
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: has been I mean, the win over so Hudo was

1396
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: tight as well, but you know, really shows up when

1397
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: he needed to, has had a very good career, and

1398
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: he's taken on a guy that nobody else wants to

1399
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: fight for. It not a title shot, but not far

1400
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: from one at that point. They put a fucking former

1401
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: champion doing all of this on the prelims. The disrespect

1402
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: is intense and palpable and simply undeniable at this point.

1403
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: And yet BC. Yet if he wins this one, I

1404
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: don't see why he's not a tricky matchup for a

1405
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 1: guy like Ilio Tuporia. I don't see how that's something

1406
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: you can look the other way? Am I saying he

1407
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: beats I lea? I mean it's a different conversation. But

1408
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: a guy who is a former champion, who is now

1409
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: fully the right size at the weight class he's in

1410
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: now at one forty five, who's got extraordinary backpacking ability

1411
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: and knows what it takes to win at the highest level, Dude,

1412
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: that's a very very difficult challenge for a guy like Ilia,

1413
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: as well rounded as he might be. Holy shit, I

1414
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: cannot believe that they're making sterling not I can believe

1415
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: that they're making them go up the Q again. I

1416
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: get that, but like like they're making them go up

1417
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: the visibility Q again. Unbelievable to me that they're doing it.

1418
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: But here we are, and I can't wait to see

1419
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: how this one unfolds.

1420
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you this is almost like the third

1421
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: most important fighters of the night, you know what I

1422
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 2: mean in terms of stakes for its division and in

1423
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 2: our interests. Luke why and it's look, it's happened before.

1424
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 2: There's champions that, you know, are fighters that get to

1425
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 2: the championship level where they just catch the ire of

1426
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 2: the promotion once and they're just not the golden boys,

1427
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 2: not the chosen ones. They sort of have to do

1428
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: the dirty work. But like al, Joe seems to always

1429
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,879
Speaker 2: get dick down in some form, and I know sometimes

1430
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 2: he plays into it, like we're, you know, posing with

1431
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 2: the belt after winning by DQ. People then had like

1432
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 2: all these you know, critical things to run with. See

1433
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 2: he's rubbing it in our face. But like I always

1434
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: felt people were too harsh to begin with. Is it

1435
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 2: just that they feel like his fights are boring? Which

1436
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't see how you can say that

1437
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 2: if you appreciate, you know, elite mma, and you know

1438
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: he just controlled Cater and totally dominated him. I don't know, Luke,

1439
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: why does he constantly get like the Tyron Woodley. Try

1440
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 2: another fighter who seems to have to go like the

1441
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 2: hard way. It's like, you're right, if he gets a

1442
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 2: big win here, he might be a sneaky, perfect B

1443
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 2: side for a title fight, in a fight that is

1444
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 2: gonna be legit, absolutely legit. If he fought to Poria,

1445
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: that'd be a very interesting matchup. But he's gotta do

1446
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 2: the dirty work for the division to have a chance

1447
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,879
Speaker 2: at getting it. And I don't why, Luke, Why explain

1448
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: to me why this guy gets.

1449
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: Differ I have a feeling. I have a feeling over

1450
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 1: the years. I mean, I haven't talked to you, to

1451
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: anybody who is a UFC matchmaker since twenty twenty two

1452
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: something like that, so it's been some time. But and

1453
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: they've never told me this, But I get the feeling.

1454
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: I get the feeling that there are certain guys that

1455
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: they feel don't have the juice and are never gonna

1456
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: And that isn't necessarily people who can't win titles, although

1457
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: it's more commonly people who can't win titles, but it

1458
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: can be them too, and they just don't believe in

1459
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 1: him for whatever reason, as some kind of entity that

1460
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: they want to get behind. I bet if you pinned

1461
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: him down, they would be like, hey, we're giving him

1462
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: a fight that is still on a big card. It

1463
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: will be on free TV. They can hype it up

1464
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: as much as they want. People are going to be

1465
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 1: happier on the pay per view card because there's not

1466
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: a close wrestling contest, and in the end, you know,

1467
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: if he wins, they'll reward it with a top five guy.

1468
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: Maybe he fights Diego Lopez, maybe he fights you know

1469
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: who knows so Yahya Rodriguez, which would be out by

1470
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 1: the way, those are awesome fights too. They would find

1471
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: a way around it. But there can simply be that

1472
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: no denial that they don't view. They have to acknowledge

1473
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: where he is and they have to respect it, and

1474
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: I think that on some basic level they do, but

1475
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: they don't like it. They don't want him there, and

1476
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: they don't believe that he's a guy that they want

1477
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: to get behind. And I think this is the central

1478
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: tension that you're seeing. So that's why this fights so

1479
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: exciting to BC, not because of the matchup per se,

1480
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: although it could be, but not necessarily and maybe even

1481
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: it won't be. It's exciting because they can force the

1482
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: UFC's hand with something like this, and that is actually

1483
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: a little bit me a more of an interesting kind

1484
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: of concept that he's wrestling with here.

1485
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, Luke. Are you impressed at all that

1486
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 2: my twice insertion of casually injecting you with dick down

1487
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 2: as if it's a regular emit mater and you just

1488
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 2: see you just like.

1489
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 1: I laughed, I laught, didn't see me laughing?

1490
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what, that's a huge win right there.

1491
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: Let's make that part of the m M a lexicon. Please,

1492
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 2: let's let BC get dick down again that we're gonna

1493
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: make it wasn't pointing this way, you know, the shaft

1494
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 2: was in the other direction.

1495
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: There you go, right, Okay, very good with that of mine. BC.

1496
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: Well again, Full three ten preview coming this Friday. Let's

1497
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: move to topic number four, and I gotta say, BC,

1498
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 1: I have to tell you I was wrong about something.

1499
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: I think it was last Monday, even last Monday. Maybe

1500
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 1: I think it was last Friday show where I told

1501
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: you like you know, storyline. Yes, sometimes it can do

1502
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: something for me, but in general I don't really need it,

1503
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: and that is still generally true. Most storyline in the

1504
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: fight game doesn't do much for me. It doesn't move me,

1505
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't do a whole lot. But you know, for

1506
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 1: a big fight, when it's a bit rivalry, you'll love it.

1507
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: And then there could be the occasional, like funny kind

1508
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: of promotion. There's another one I want to introduce into

1509
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: the ways in which I think. So, what do you

1510
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: want to say? Promotion can really add a lot, all right,

1511
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: your mileage may vary. It's topic number four. It's Jamal Hill.

1512
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill went on a goddamn what do you want

1513
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: to call it? BC? Social media rampage, and not just

1514
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: social media. He was on YouTube, which I guess is

1515
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: social media. But you get the idea either responding to

1516
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: people calling out people, responding two callouts of other people,

1517
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: and just spray in the block the entire time BC

1518
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 1: Now BC A lot of people get really annoyed by this.

1519
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: But before we get to the actual substance of what

1520
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: he was replying to to me, pull a time at

1521
01:12:55,880 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: the top of the light heavyweight division unmitigated success It's

1522
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: huge twenty twenty four. Everybody loves him, nothing bad to

1523
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: say about him. But as I've argued, outside of the

1524
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: Onkalia fight, there's not a whole lot to get excited about.

1525
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill is maybe the only guy outside of like

1526
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: just the what Poeton brings to this division who is

1527
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: making people want to see him fight. Now, they might

1528
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: be wanting to see him get viciously chaoed, but they're invested. Dude.

1529
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: He is rolling grenades into these rooms. He's farting on

1530
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: elevators and then walking out. And I gotta tell you,

1531
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: I kind of like it.

1532
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 2: I kind of like it, Like I don't discount that

1533
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 2: he's gotta be in on it and that there is

1534
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 2: like a lane to do like just the extreme heel,

1535
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 2: and he's he's running with it because it feels like

1536
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 2: he's just like you know, pulling the pin off of

1537
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 2: the grenade and putting it between his legs and waiting

1538
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 2: to see what happens. He's he's dunking out here. But

1539
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: it is bringing a lot of attention. The only thing

1540
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 2: I I never liked about it is it's making him

1541
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: to some degree unlikable when I think as a fighter

1542
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 2: he's extremely likable, and I think he has the chance

1543
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 2: still to be in some very big pay per view

1544
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 2: main event fights because he's got balls. He's you know,

1545
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 2: skilled and very exciting and goes for it regardless of

1546
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 2: you know, having some swinging misses at the highest level.

1547
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 2: But that's where this division is right now. It's a

1548
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 2: bunch of gun slingers and one guy with a bigger

1549
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: gun than everybody else. But you know what it does

1550
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: add something in the long run. It is a little

1551
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's cheap heat though, Luke right, you

1552
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like it's it's uh yeah, it

1553
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 2: can get cringey, it could get abrasive, but it's gonna

1554
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 2: lead to a fight. And dude, you can't tell me

1555
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 2: you're not fired up to see him in yearie? Is

1556
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,839
Speaker 2: that the comin of the proposed January eighteenth Los Angeles

1557
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:53,839
Speaker 2: card at the New Arena.

1558
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: And this is my point. If he wasn't talking shit,

1559
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 1: I'd be moderately interested in it. But now he's It's

1560
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 1: not just that like, oh, you want to see one

1561
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: guy win versus the other. It's more like, dude, he's

1562
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: raised the stakes on what these even mean, right, it's.

1563
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: Not just John Jones to mention him. Luke, that's not nothing.

1564
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 1: It's not nothing. Let's go through what he actually said.

1565
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 1: Let's autopsy this just a little bit first. Let's go

1566
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 1: after what Hill said. Actually, let's go in order. He responded.

1567
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill to Michael Bisping, and this was on Twitter.

1568
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill first at Bisping calling me a sore loser

1569
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: and talking about as men on losing is the craziest

1570
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: shit to me ever. Bro, You've been crying and salty

1571
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: about Dan Henderson for twenty years and Vitr Belfoor for fifteen.

1572
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 1: You would think spending half your career losing, you would

1573
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: know how to Okay, it's a little much, but not

1574
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: bad heat.

1575
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some heat there.

1576
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: I like that, all right, twich Bispan replied, did you

1577
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 1: watch what I said or did you read some shitty headline?

1578
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: If it's a headline, I'll accept your apology. I said

1579
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: you were a bit of a sore loser because you're

1580
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 1: a true competitor, and then on to explain how if

1581
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,799
Speaker 1: that energy is channeled correctly, it can be truly beneficial

1582
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 1: to fighters mindset. I was being nice, not talking shit.

1583
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 1: Didn't you have didn't have you down. Excuse me as

1584
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: the easily offended type. Really, I mean all fighters are

1585
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,799
Speaker 1: the easily offended type. All the best with your camp.

1586
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 1: You know this one thing where I like, it's like

1587
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: I was kind of couching an insult in this broader

1588
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: explanation of Niceness's like, you can't like people try to

1589
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: do this with fighters, and I've done it too, where

1590
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: it's like I wasn't like I was actually saying something nice.

1591
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: They don't care, they don't care, they don't give a shit.

1592
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I kind of love the

1593
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: powpal of this one a little bit. That was actually

1594
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: all right? Then hold on, he went after as you

1595
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: mentioned UFC three eleven opponent, you're a prahaschka. Let's take

1596
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: a look at that.

1597
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 7: He says, don't talk about his fight IQ or his

1598
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 7: fights because my last performance I showed nothing, bro, Are

1599
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 7: you kidding me? Are you kidding me? So we had

1600
01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 7: the same opponent last last fight, Right, you can say whatever,

1601
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 7: try to go with the wave like that seemed to

1602
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 7: be the thing now because I get a lot of

1603
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 7: hate within the community and all of that, a lot

1604
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 7: of y'all want to try to jock on that, but

1605
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 7: you know, I'm really don't caring. I'm really gonna come

1606
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 7: at you right. Your last performance, you got dominated, dominated

1607
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 7: and knocked out, completely shut down, completely exposed, right and

1608
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 7: then got done bad. Bro, you got did bad. I

1609
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 7: got caught, you got dominated. It's a huge difference. You

1610
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 7: feel what I'm saying. My man's literally had your ponytail

1611
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 7: leaning to the left.

1612
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: I hope you wear that.

1613
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 7: I hope you wear that same ponytail in LA so

1614
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,759
Speaker 7: I could lean that motherfucker to the left.

1615
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: Right back for you.

1616
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like this is like like

1617
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 7: this is insane. We're talking about a dude who is

1618
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 7: getting his ass whipped in every fight that you've been in.

1619
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 7: And because you are, you know what I mean, You

1620
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 7: can take some shots and people and people get tired

1621
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 7: and they show make low IQ move. The only reason

1622
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 7: why you became champ is because Glover made a low

1623
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 7: IQ move in a moment.

1624
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: Okay, BC, I'm here for it.

1625
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 2: There is an endearing side to his to him like

1626
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 2: playing the villain role to some degree. The problem I

1627
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 2: think is that it always goes so quickly too far

1628
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 2: into like delusion and that's where I feel like he

1629
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 2: has to be in on the joke. I wish I

1630
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 2: kind of wish he would stop the the whole you

1631
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 2: know material that he builds behind, protecting the way that

1632
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 2: he lost the poeton and trying to frame it as

1633
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 2: the referee or Pereira himself.

1634
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: You know, he seems to like I don't agree with

1635
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,759
Speaker 1: all of his assessments there. I do agree that Eerie

1636
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: wins a lot because he endors a lot of abuse

1637
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 1: and then survives and then does well, which won't last

1638
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: like that eventually will go away. You do have to

1639
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: win on skills. I actually fully agree with that. However,

1640
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: included in truth.

1641
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: That's that's the key to his uh, him playing.

1642
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: The thing where him like being I got caught versus

1643
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: you got dominated. I understand what he's saying. He's saying,

1644
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: I didn't get fully audited in that way. I got

1645
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: hit with a big punch in a fight that was like,

1646
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 1: you know, relatively even until it just wasn't. I understand

1647
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: what he means by that. But at the same time

1648
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:23,919
Speaker 1: he got finished quicker.

1649
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 2: I just think he's got to drop that bit about

1650
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 2: the loss to Perreira, and people would spin around and

1651
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 2: be like, you know what, this guy's kind of a badass,

1652
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 2: and sometimes he does land some of these trash talking

1653
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 2: and you know he's gonna clap back. So like you're

1654
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 2: always like waiting to see what's gonna happen if you

1655
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 2: get caught up into that look, sometimes I get caught

1656
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: up into that noise. All right, this guy could be

1657
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: a player in that scene. You just got to drop

1658
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 2: that bit, you know.

1659
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 1: Well. He also responded to Pereira, responding to him, let's

1660
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: take a look at that if we can. So Poeton

1661
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 1: was out there being like, calm down, my son, pass

1662
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: this test, and Dad will give you a second chance.

1663
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 1: And then Jamal quote tweeted it and replied, beat it

1664
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,839
Speaker 1: funny how you rushed little ass roundtree and dumbass yearie

1665
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: like you were the man. But wait until the ref's

1666
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: got in the way to swing at me. You will

1667
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: see me again at one hundred percent soon, and we

1668
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: both know the fear that was in your heart. Okay,

1669
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't believe any of that, but it doesn't matter.

1670
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: He is making it appointment fucking viewing the next time

1671
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: he goes out there, because if he wins, you just

1672
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 1: know the trash talk is gonna go to the next

1673
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: fucking level.

1674
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, this is like nineties pro wrestling heel one

1675
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 2: oh one. What he's actually pulling off here? Yeah, this

1676
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 2: is Chill Sonon's bit. He's just reworking.

1677
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: But I don't do you think he's doing a bit

1678
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,839
Speaker 1: or is he just being a certain like side of himself.

1679
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 2: I think he's doing the bit so well that we

1680
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 2: can't figure it out. So I think he's winning either way,

1681
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 2: right because no matter what it is, he you know,

1682
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 2: he's he's leaning into it and guess what it's keeping

1683
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 2: him in the conversation of huge fights. Dude, again it's

1684
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: John Jones saying his name is is Like, you know,

1685
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 2: did you think about that he was in that category?

1686
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 2: But at the same time, would you hate to see

1687
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 2: that if it ever did materialize? No, So maybe he

1688
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 2: has uh found a way to really make this gimmick work.

1689
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I am now much more excited about

1690
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: this than I otherwise would have been.

1691
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 2: Someone the series could be one knockout away from just

1692
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 2: it all falling apart, because you can only take.

1693
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: Something when it falls apart. For him, it's gonna fall

1694
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 1: apart disastrously and then all at once, like his chin

1695
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: is gonna go and then it's curtains for him, Like

1696
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: that's it. I don't I'm not saying it's this fight.

1697
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's this fight. It could not

1698
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 1: could maybe not even next year. I don't know, but

1699
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: it eventually will get cracked and then humpty dumpty will

1700
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: not be put back together again. Yeah, all right, BC,

1701
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: let's quickly if we can go to topic number five

1702
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: for a bit of a boxing roundup. Tomorrow is the

1703
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 1: presser announcement for Tank Davis versus Lamont Roach. There's a

1704
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: lot to get to there. I want to talk about

1705
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 1: that a few of the things. Let's start with Davis

1706
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: and Roach.

1707
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 7: BC.

1708
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: As we indicate, it was supposed to be December I

1709
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 1: think sixteenth in the Toyota Center in Houston. It got

1710
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: moved to again fourteenth, fourteenth, I Apologist fourteenth at the

1711
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 1: Toyota Center in Houston. He got moved to March first

1712
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: at the Barclay Center in Brooklyn, New York. BC. I

1713
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: see a lot of consternation online about this fight. I

1714
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 1: have a talk little Mott Roach coming out tomorrow, but

1715
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: is moving it to Brooklyn? Any kind of meaningful improvement.

1716
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 2: In reality, it probably shouldn't be, but I think it's

1717
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, it's done a ton to sort of

1718
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 2: change the perception. Look, this was never a bad fight,

1719
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: right Lamont Roach Junior is absolutely legit at one hundred

1720
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 2: and thirty pounds, and this is, you know, a step

1721
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 2: up fight. He's unbeaten, like there's an amateur background in

1722
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 2: a rivalry. This is more interesting than I think kind

1723
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 2: of rushing it and sending it out to Houston, because

1724
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 2: I think that was Tank's preference than it was if

1725
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 2: it would have happened, because there were still some people

1726
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 2: going and maybe rightfully to some degree, saying like why

1727
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 2: is Tank kind of doing the Hector Garcia bit? Again,

1728
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 2: there's so many big names at thirty five and forty

1729
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 2: that we, you know, all to see Tank get a

1730
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 2: chance to fight, but time and shifting it to a place.

1731
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 2: I mean, look, when there's big fights in Brooklyn, it's

1732
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 2: a different level of energy and magic in the air.

1733
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 2: So I just think, for whatever reason, that fight just

1734
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 2: got an injection and now I'm seeing a lot more

1735
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 2: positivity and people excited for the actual matchup, which of

1736
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 2: itself is going to be very interesting, even if it

1737
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 2: didn't have that big commercial knockout punch of what we're

1738
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 2: kind of waiting for Tank to do. When he fought Ryan,

1739
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 2: it was huge. We want to see him do that again,

1740
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 2: whether it's you know, anyone of Chakura, any of those guys.

1741
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 2: Maybe this leads to it anyway, But I don't know.

1742
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 2: Do you feel the change in the air people, Dude,

1743
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 2: this is gonna be a while, Like this would be

1744
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 2: a great night to be in the arena for this.

1745
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a it's gonna be wild. Look, it's

1746
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 2: gonna be big.

1747
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: You know what's kind of funny. You've got DC versus Baltimore.

1748
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: It's not in DC and it's not in Baltimore, but

1749
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 1: it's in New York, which is a short drive for everybody.

1750
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: Barclays has been a great home for BAX. Generally, it's

1751
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 1: not a home game BC, but it feels pretty close

1752
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: to one. It feels kind of like one, So I

1753
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 1: feel like you're gonna get a good I can't wipe

1754
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 1: up my finger on it either, other than to say,

1755
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: it's not a big trip for the folks from this

1756
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: neck of the woods to go up there, and then

1757
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: that area is already good for boxing. I feel like

1758
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: the crowd might be electric. I didn't know what you

1759
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 1: were gonna get in Houston to be QUADASTI I mean

1760
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: Tank draws wherever, so you know it doesn't assari.

1761
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 2: I mean Texas has great fight fans, where the fight

1762
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 2: fans will show up, you know what I mean. That

1763
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna be an issue.

1764
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't think yeah, yeah, but I mean, like what

1765
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: kinds like? I just feel like, I don't know. There's

1766
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: something that Barclays in Brooklyn gives it a little bit

1767
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: of an edge, and I don't know how much that

1768
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: will matter in the end, but I like it better

1769
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: this way, although the delay is not so great. B

1770
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: see the bigger story here from boxing is less this

1771
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: one again. The presser will be tomorrow. It's about Jiron

1772
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: Ennison virgil Ortiz. So Jiron Nison virgual Ortiz were thought

1773
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 1: to be negotiating a fight for the February twenty second

1774
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 1: card in Reout in Saudi Arabia for one hundred and fifty

1775
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: four pounds, and then virgo Ortiz gets out there and said, hey,

1776
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: I tried to fell apart. It's not my fault. And

1777
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 1: then Boots gets out there and says we actually put

1778
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,560
Speaker 1: the Boots note up if we can Longani look the

1779
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: one that says Boots responds, he goes, I've seen the

1780
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: rumors on social media just like y'all did. As far

1781
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: as the fight with me and Virgil, I was unaware

1782
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: that a llegend negotiations were being made on my end

1783
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: from here on out if it didn't come from me

1784
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: and me only don't believe it. And I will address

1785
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: if I'm staying at forty seven or moving up to

1786
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 1: fifty four at a later date. But here's the problem

1787
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: BC is that they had declared right after the last

1788
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 1: fight against Chu Kazan that they wanted to go to

1789
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 1: fifty four there, Well, how about this play the video

1790
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: of Bozy innis this is the dad of Boots Ennis play.

1791
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 5: That Oscar de la Royees come out on social media

1792
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,719
Speaker 5: today and suggested a fight between Jarroon and Virgil Ortiz

1793
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 5: Junior and a Matt True Mercy's Golden Boy five verses five.

1794
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 5: Event you'd be interested in a fight with Virgil Ortis

1795
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 5: up at one fifty four.

1796
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 2: They already asked about that and they said they turned

1797
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 2: it down.

1798
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 5: Guys in Golden Boys tended on.

1799
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 2: I don't know it was Golden Boy, but I don't

1800
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 2: know who it was. They said, they turned it down.

1801
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 1: We'll fight him in a heartbeat.

1802
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 5: So if so, but Wendy Bap and if you don't,

1803
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 5: mont Masque when Wendy Bap and we two days ago.

1804
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 1: So there you have it. BC. His dad was unequivocal

1805
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: about it. They seemed to be ready to go with it.

1806
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 1: It was rumored, and then what was reported happened is

1807
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: that when the contract was sent over to Virgil Ortiz,

1808
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it was that one forty seven

1809
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 1: a weight class that Ortiz can no longer make weights safe.

1810
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 2: They know, and he hasn't made that in two years.

1811
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 1: Dude, here's the question. Is Boots and us ducking?

1812
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think once this fat these facts came out,

1813
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 2: I think Dan Rayfield had a lot of reporting in

1814
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: this area on Fight Freaks Unite about exactly what you're

1815
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 2: talking about. That it was sent out as a one

1816
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 2: hundred and forty seven pound title bout, and it made

1817
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 2: it look yeah, look, it makes it look like he

1818
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 2: doesn't want to fight, or he changed his mind, or

1819
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,839
Speaker 2: whatever is the case. I know in that post fight interview,

1820
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: after the Chuckins in rematch, he did seem to lean

1821
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 2: heavily to like he was going to one fifty four,

1822
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 2: even mentioning that it's you know, tough physically to keep

1823
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 2: making one forty seven. But he also did leave the

1824
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 2: door open that he might want to unify if he

1825
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 2: can get the champions in the ring for a big

1826
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 2: fight at forty seven. We all didn't think that was

1827
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 2: the right move, but it's on him, you know. Ultimately,

1828
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 2: it's just why would this fight go this deepened negotiation

1829
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: and be paraded publicly? If it from Boots' case, no

1830
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 2: one even told him like that doesn't make any sense.

1831
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 2: It was all over social media and it was everywhere.

1832
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, it makes Team Boots look bad. I think

1833
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 2: it comes down to, like, what was the real reasoning here?

1834
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 2: Did they just make the decision that for now, staying

1835
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 2: at forty seven is the path they want to go?

1836
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 2: Then come out and say that basically is what I'm saying,

1837
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: And don't let this, don't let this drag your name

1838
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 2: through the mud the way it has because this is

1839
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 2: a bad look.

1840
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 1: And then Xander's eyes, you can put up the tweet

1841
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 1: he's a young guy up and coming. He wants the smoke.

1842
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: They gave me an hour to say yes. I said

1843
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: yes in one minute. He responding to virgual Ort's being like, hey, guys,

1844
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 1: I try it takes to de tango. No one wants

1845
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: to do it BC. I like the moxie on Xanders

1846
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 1: Aias and thank you Long Island, Luke. I don't want

1847
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 1: him to take this fight, though, I would rather do

1848
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 1: it patiently and under the right circumstances.

1849
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:16,719
Speaker 2: I mean, look, we're not used to this in boxing.

1850
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 2: This is Riad says in effect happening. But sometimes, like

1851
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 2: the Jared Anderson Martin Bacoli heavyweight fight, sometimes these guys

1852
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 2: get dropped into the truth chamber and it's it's riveting

1853
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 2: to see and there will be those questions afterwards if

1854
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 2: these fights are taken too quickly. And again Kid Austin

1855
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 2: Floyd Schofield that looks like him and Shakur is gonna

1856
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 2: be on this loaded February twenty second card that they're

1857
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 2: trying to figure out the virgil Ort situation for right now,

1858
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 2: and this card's going to be loaded, or so we hope,

1859
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 2: because a couple of times what's happening in Riad Sayson

1860
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 2: is You'll hear all these rumors and it feels like

1861
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 2: Turkey and company or leaning into those rumors, and then

1862
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 2: the card you actually get is missing. You know, a

1863
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 2: couple of fights or things change, however, the message ends

1864
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 2: up getting delivered truncated like that. This has the potential

1865
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 2: to be a monster pay per view and a big deal.

1866
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't worry so much for Morties the standpoint, because

1867
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 2: Turkey's gonna make sure they get the next best opponent,

1868
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 2: because it seems like Virgil as a fighter, he's really

1869
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 2: backing and when you got that Turkey stamp, you're gonna

1870
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 2: get the big push, ready or not. Hey, Ortiz was

1871
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: ready against Bochuck and that was an instant classic. If

1872
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 2: they can make this fight though, Luke that I don't know, man,

1873
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,879
Speaker 2: I mean, who would you most want to see Virgil against.

1874
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 2: I love to seeing against Crawford, by the way. I

1875
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 2: don't know if they can make this this quickly with

1876
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 2: this short turnaround, but there's some things that would be

1877
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 2: very fun to see.

1878
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 1: I mean I would have said Tim Zoo, but.

1879
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 2: There you go.

1880
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that whole shit got fucked up. I mean,

1881
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: there's nothing else to say. Last bit on this BC.

1882
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 2: You think it's just bad pr from Boots. Really it's

1883
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 2: just bad. It's just like not controlling.

1884
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: The Here's what I don't get from Boots. It's like

1885
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: you can't hint about what direction you're going your father,

1886
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: get out there and say it, and then you get

1887
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 1: an offer for it with, by the way, probably the

1888
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: payday of his life, considering it's Saudi Arabia.

1889
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 2: Right, I heard the six million.

1890
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: Okay, pretty decent amount. Six million is probably more than

1891
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 1: he's made for any other fight up to this point,

1892
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: and by multiple as I'm guessing, and you're saying no

1893
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 1: to it at a point in time when like this

1894
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 1: is exactly like this deal is not going to get better. Also,

1895
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 1: I would favor him to win if he fought up

1896
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 1: to potential. Boots is having a rough go of it

1897
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: the end of his PBC run, in the beginning of

1898
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 1: his Matchroom run. It's not like it's gone bad, but

1899
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 1: it hasn't gone according to plan.

1900
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 2: And then they never signed with PBC, and I wonder

1901
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 2: if in hindsight that's what hurt him.

1902
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: Maybe I mean when I say PBC, he was fighting

1903
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 1: on PBC cards with an independent promoter.

1904
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 2: But you know what, I mean right, but he had

1905
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 2: the Showtime exclusive deal.

1906
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he was on PBC cards. I mean, I

1907
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: guess the best way to put that. But it has

1908
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 1: gone poorly for him relative to expectations, and it's hard

1909
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: to not see not a great thing last thing on

1910
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 1: this Explain to people, if you can, as briefly as possible,

1911
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 1: who the fuck is Shakur Stevenson fighting? And why is

1912
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 1: the entire tirety of boxing Twitter amped about it.

1913
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 2: Because it has the opportunity to be a huge show

1914
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,759
Speaker 2: me step through, just like we're talking about with Ian Gary,

1915
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 2: but even more of a early reach in a stretch

1916
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 2: is what kid Austin and Floyd Scofield's gonna make here,

1917
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,679
Speaker 2: And it looks like it's gone through according to Twitter,

1918
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 2: for whatever that's worth. But the report seemed to be

1919
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 2: that Oscar de la Hoy and Golden Boy, you know,

1920
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: put up the stop sign, just like they did when

1921
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 2: Canelo early on wanted big fights like Austin Trout and

1922
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,640
Speaker 2: you know Arislandi Laura like they tried to stop that too,

1923
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 2: but the fighter pushed through. This is what Schofield wanted

1924
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 2: and his dad running his career. It's a big step up.

1925
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 2: It's against him, you know, one of the top ten

1926
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 2: pound for pound fighters in the world in Stevenson, even

1927
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 2: if he's had some bad PRF late, he's still on

1928
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 2: a different level. This is a huge leap for a

1929
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 2: physical action fighter, but somebody who has not you know this.

1930
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's one of those early parachute right

1931
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 2: into the middle of the biggest stage, and you're gonna

1932
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 2: find out right away if you can swim. I think

1933
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 2: that's where the intention is really building. And I know

1934
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 2: some people are saying are really focusing on the negative

1935
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 2: parts of this, but the kid wants to prove how

1936
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 2: grad he is. I mean, he's making large comparisons on

1937
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 2: social media, bringing up when you know Tyson did at

1938
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 2: age twenty and and just leaning into like hey, you

1939
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 2: know when I'll e beat listenim, what was he twenty two?

1940
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 2: Like what balls he has? Luke, we do embrace that

1941
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 2: here in the boxing space. And again, if the fighter

1942
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 2: wants to f around and find out, we'll be witnesses.

1943
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 2: That's the theater of this sport, is.

1944
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: It not, Luke, Yeah, it is. I'll say this, this

1945
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 1: is an opportunity for Shakur to get some some fans yeah,

1946
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 1: because I think that there's gonna be a gap at

1947
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: skill and Shakerzi gon't have an opportunity to style on him.

1948
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 1: And let's see if he takes it, Let's see how

1949
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 1: it goes. But like, this could actually be good good

1950
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 1: for him, depending on what approach he ultimately takes in

1951
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 1: the fight. I'll look forward to it. Dude.

1952
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:07,679
Speaker 2: What a cash in of your money in the bank

1953
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 2: contract that would be to enter the elite status of

1954
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 2: boxing by by going through this guy under these circumstances.

1955
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 2: And I'm sure the paint. I think people have been

1956
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 2: upset at his father, and they've shared this on X

1957
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 2: about his father, saying that look like win or lose,

1958
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 2: there's it's so much money, and it lets us see

1959
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 2: what level we're at in what things we have to

1960
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 2: improve upon. Some people have framed that as oh, they're

1961
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 2: only doing it for the money, But dude, the money

1962
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 2: has to be part of the equation here, does it not, Luke,

1963
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 2: This is a prize, right, yes, I.

1964
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 1: Mean that's perhaps the most central one, to be quite

1965
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 1: honest with you.

1966
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 2: But it's that bag player, if you can get it now,

1967
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 2: sometimes you got to get it now, right, I mean,

1968
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 2: it doesn't always work, even a great one like Fernando Vargas,

1969
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 2: who's like a not in the Hall of Fame, but

1970
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 2: like a borderline guy. You know, the totality of his career.

1971
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 2: The critics will look back and say, you know, fought

1972
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 2: the real big ones, the Trendidad one, maybe too soon,

1973
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 2: was like twenty years old. But sometimes you know, if

1974
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 2: you're that phenom and you're rising, you want to find

1975
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 2: out too, Luke right, that's what the great ones want

1976
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,719
Speaker 2: to do. What how old was Leonard when he fought Hearns.

1977
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 2: I think he was like twenty two. I mean, it's wild, right,

1978
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 2: that's what.

1979
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was looking at what Hearn's fight? Was that? No,

1980
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 1: not Hearns. I was watching a sugar rate Leonard fight.

1981
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:19,679
Speaker 1: He was like twenty nine. God who was it against?

1982
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: I forget, but he performed like so absurdly ably. Oh gods,

1983
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 1: I watched it over the weekend.

1984
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 2: I don't know talking about the Donnie Lalande fight, No,

1985
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: it was.

1986
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 1: A different one, I forget, all right.

1987
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 2: I hope it wasn't the Terry Norris fight when Terry

1988
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 2: kicked the shit out of Leonard and that was the

1989
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 2: last time I let boxing make me cry.

1990
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 1: Luke, I don't think it was that. I'll have to

1991
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 1: look it up. I had it saved. But that's it

1992
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 1: for our top five BC. With that in mind, let's

1993
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 1: go to where the fans get to ask us questions.

1994
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 1: It's time for dms from the jizz and donks.

1995
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's just a it's a very uncomfortable

1996
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 2: sound to be honest with you.

1997
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 1: All right, BC from ALPW Underscore figures what current MMA

1998
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 1: fighters still get you excited about the sport? BC, we

1999
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 1: already know the answer from me. I mean, do I

2000
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 1: need to tell you?

2001
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 2: I know Paul Craig would say, Mackenzie durn right. Now, look, okay,

2002
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You just see that little

2003
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 2: bit then UFC social did with Thanksgiving. Yeah, I mean, look,

2004
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 2: you know, Ilio Tuporia is making a lot of grown

2005
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 2: men viciously erect. Look to be very fair with you, Okay,

2006
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 2: all right, in the most pure fighting sense, you've got

2007
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 2: a phoner, my friend. Okay, you know what I mean.

2008
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 2: Jake Hager was right, he was shout out to CT right,

2009
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 2: he was right, But I mean, who else belongs like

2010
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 2: collectively in that conversation. I mean, dude, I get really

2011
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 2: excited to see Islam fight every time because you know this,

2012
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 2: you know, for this stretch, this is the best fighter

2013
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:48,560
Speaker 2: in the world. I want to see how great he

2014
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 2: can be. Yeah, that's a guy that wakes me up, right.

2015
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: I get pumped for Islam, but he doesn't. I'd be

2016
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 1: lying if I said I was like crazy excited. I

2017
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 1: was crazy excited to see Habib fight.

2018
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 2: You don't get secondhand Habib vibes. Like I mean, like

2019
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 2: Dale Junior made his whole career off secondhand Senior.

2020
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 1: I respect Islam. I'm not gonna sit here and talk

2021
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 1: about about Islam. I he's he's phenomenal.

2022
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, you would have a problem if you did.

2023
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 2: Luke and I would lead those people. I would be

2024
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:18,440
Speaker 2: there there. You know, they're you're, You're always you're.

2025
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 1: If I was Julius Caesar, you'd be the first one

2026
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 1: to drive a knife either to my back or my heart. Yea,

2027
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 1: I know that.

2028
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:31,480
Speaker 2: I'm like Homer's sister in law Selma Yeah, and Patty Yeah,

2029
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 2: those brods yeah.

2030
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 1: Uh BC. So it's obviously gonna be Eliot, It's gonna

2031
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 1: be shot Catt Rock monof you share that one at least.

2032
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, I do, Yes, I do.

2033
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 1: Is there anyone from outside of UFC that we.

2034
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 2: Like, I'm gonna really be riding the d of Dagistan

2035
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 2: by saying this, but Usmander Maga Madoff. Doesn't that get

2036
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 2: Does that guy get you really excited?

2037
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 1: No, he's a little bit. He's still risk averse and

2038
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 1: still coming into his Yeah, but.

2039
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:00,600
Speaker 2: I want to see how great he is too. I

2040
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 2: just want to keep seeing that guy compete. I don't know.

2041
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:06,799
Speaker 2: Obviously there's a lot of exciting fighters we're not even focusing.

2042
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Poeton, dude, come on in every category.

2043
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:13,480
Speaker 1: Poton, Dakoda, ditch of A certainly put in that list. Yeah,

2044
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: anyone from one. I mean you could sort of say, like,

2045
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 1: you know, honorable Mention rug Rug, you could kind of

2046
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 1: say that, you know, it's a little fun.

2047
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mallakin was I think before that?

2048
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that loss to rugg Rug is

2049
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 1: like just shows you how fraudulent that triple Champ designation was.

2050
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 1: When there was like, well one of the belts is

2051
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 1: he's a bridger weight.

2052
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 2: It's like, okayyeah, we're not doing that.

2053
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 1: Yes, all right? From Aurelius ninety two, Hey, guys, why

2054
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,600
Speaker 1: was this weekend. The most violent I've ever seen across

2055
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 1: football across the NCAA and NFL. I don't know, was it.

2056
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got at least one of those clips in

2057
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 2: the in the feces that are coming your way. I

2058
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 2: think there was a lot of fights, but I don't know.

2059
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 1: That's right. Ohio State and then Michigan.

2060
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 2: You know the football I grew up with, Luke, they

2061
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 2: had fights in it all the time. You know what

2062
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I like a I like the smell of

2063
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 2: that man musk that's coming out of those sports right now.

2064
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 2: They got moxie.

2065
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 1: I'll fart in your mouth. I don't care.

2066
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, Okay, it's wow. Yeah.

2067
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:21,320
Speaker 1: Look Luke in studio going like, I'll farten your mouth too.

2068
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 2: Okay. One of my first class section on a plane, Luke,

2069
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 2: what do you do come?

2070
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 1: I'll say this. Every time one of those like big

2071
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 1: brawls happens between teams, the commentators are always like, this

2072
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 1: is this is not what this sport is about, and

2073
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, the fuck it is. Jode.

2074
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 2: When I when I was a sophomore, I went to

2075
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:40,839
Speaker 2: my first high school game in that year, my team,

2076
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 2: the naugat took Greyhounds, the same team by the way

2077
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 2: that beat and Sonya the night before Thanksgiving for the

2078
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 2: second straight year, Luke, first time that's happened since nineteen

2079
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 2: eighty six. Shout out to the Greyhounds. The first game

2080
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 2: I went to was the year they were state champions,

2081
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 2: and I was standing behind the end zone. It was

2082
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 2: a day game before the lights came in the next year,

2083
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 2: and dude, there was a massive brawl between Noggy and

2084
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 2: Woolkit in the end zone right in front of me,

2085
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 2: and the benches emptied and in like there was like

2086
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 2: legit one on ones. It was like a big hockey brawl. Dude.

2087
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 2: It was awesome.

2088
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 1: And I'm like, why don't you live in a place

2089
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 1: that steals more Native American territory and then uses their names?

2090
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 1: How about that? Why don't you do that?

2091
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 2: We respect our Yeah, there you go.

2092
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 1: All right? From uh Jimmy Underscore read top to bottom.

2093
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 1: Best pay per view card of the year for hardcore

2094
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 1: hardcore fans. I mean still would be three hundred.

2095
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:31,680
Speaker 2: Right, I was just gonna say, am I casual for

2096
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:35,559
Speaker 2: saying it's still three hundred? That was a big one, Luke.

2097
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 1: Two nine was good. Eight was good shit all three I.

2098
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 2: Run leading into three hundred. Even though we criticized how

2099
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 2: the three hundred finished process ultimately went. It fell. It

2100
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 2: didn't feel well planned enough. But the depth and the

2101
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 2: big moments Max, I mean, dude, that was that Max moment.

2102
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 2: That's that moment was something else.

2103
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 1: The best moment of the year. It's the best moment

2104
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 1: of the year for sure.

2105
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 2: The best moment in a while, to be fair, like,

2106
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 2: that's a I lived. I remember, you know, I remember

2107
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 2: how I felt forever, Luke, Okay, And that's the beauty

2108
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 2: of this sport. Once in a while, this absolute uh

2109
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 2: traveling horror of a combat sport, Luke boxing, and I'll

2110
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 2: lump mix martial arts in that. Once in a while,

2111
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 2: they'll they'll they'll steal your heart, you know what I'm saying.

2112
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 2: They'll remind you how good it feels to, you know,

2113
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 2: to jump in this bed.

2114
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 1: Luke.

2115
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Speaker 2: Look, you can't change it. You're in the bed. You're

2116
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 2: in it.

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01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm in it.

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01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.

2119
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 1: From Johnny Underscore thump gas station hot dogs or horse meat.

2120
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 1: We need answers. You see, what's the most exotic animal

2121
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 1: you've ever eaten?

2122
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 2: Knowingly yeah, you know, I had some low rent food

2123
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 2: for many a vender. You never know. I don't what

2124
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:57,679
Speaker 2: did I have? Oh, dude, I I've had a bunch.

2125
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,560
Speaker 2: There was a stretch where I thought I liked octopus

2126
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:04,559
Speaker 2: and that ended very explosively, Luke, it turns out I

2127
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:06,680
Speaker 2: was dead wrong, you know what I mean? And that

2128
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 2: wash I'll never you want to talk about moments, You'll

2129
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 2: never forget Max with one second to go against Gae Chee,

2130
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 2: and how many times I threw up when I realized

2131
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 2: octopus wasn't for me? You know what I mean?

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01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: Why was? I mean? I don't believe in eating octopus

2133
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 1: for ethical reasons, but it does taste good. Like what

2134
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 1: was so bad about it?

2135
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. But it was the night of Miguel

2136
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 2: Coto against Austin Trout at the Garden. Dude, I threw

2137
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 2: up for hours before that card.

2138
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 1: Sorry. I was gonna say, have you ever had venison?

2139
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, it was, it was, It was fine. I

2140
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 2: have I hate lamb. Dude, that can't handle lamb.

2141
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 1: You mean like lamb as separate from venison, like deer

2142
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: versus lamb.

2143
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 2: Uh, Like you go to like a cookout and lamb

2144
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 2: is the meat, you know what I mean? And you're like, yeah,

2145
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 2: I can, like I can figure this out, right, I

2146
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 2: know what I'm doing here, tastes wise, and then.

2147
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 1: You these are not super gamey like I've had wild boar.

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01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 1: I've been wild boar hunting. Ye, I've certainly had at

2149
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 1: venison a million different ways.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you have the same wander lust I

2151
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 2: have if I'm good, you know, like we talk about

2152
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:17,639
Speaker 2: in Japan, If if I'm gonna eat horse, then then

2153
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 2: it's gotta be a like a triple crown at least finalist.

2154
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 1: Right. Did you see Craig Jones? To your point, did

2155
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:26,600
Speaker 1: you see Craig Jones had dinner with Yankee Pseudo and

2156
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 1: put it on Instagram? Did you see this?

2157
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 2: I did not what happened in this.

2158
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 1: They ate turtles, but the way that it went was

2159
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 1: they drank turtle blood, then they had turtle soup. Then

2160
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 1: they drank and I'm not kidding turtle bile, and I'm

2161
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 1: not sure what they washed it down with, but like

2162
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: it was weird looking.

2163
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 2: Are you trying to say that Craig Jones has kind

2164
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 2: of become like combat sports as Anthony Bourdain like they

2165
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 2: should market.

2166
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:56,679
Speaker 1: This to a degree a little bit, yes, and just.

2167
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 2: Like go do hard drugs with prostitutes and have wild

2168
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 2: parties in different countries and then like explain in a

2169
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:05,559
Speaker 2: half serious, dry humor way, you know, try to talk

2170
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 2: about it like it's normal. It probably would be a

2171
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:09,679
Speaker 2: brilliant strategy on YouTube.

2172
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably would be. I'll just end this by saying,

2173
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 1: the gamiest thing I've ever eaten was a rattlesnake and

2174
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: it was fucking gross.

2175
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:19,799
Speaker 2: Yeah that doesn't, that doesn't.

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01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was like really really tough beef jerky.

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Speaker 2: That all right, here's a test of your meat manhood

2178
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 2: when you go to Jamaica and the hot dogs are

2179
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 2: like bright red and have that thick skin. I don't know, dude,

2180
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 2: that's I mean, you know, I mean, I've done it

2181
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:38,679
Speaker 2: many times.

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Speaker 1: How can you eat that and then not let me

2183
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 1: shit in your mouth? I don't understand that.

2184
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 2: I think those are paralzel.

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01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:52,439
Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, last, last, but not

2186
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:56,639
Speaker 1: least from PlayStation Shavvy. Need to know what you guys

2187
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 1: think is the bloodiest fight in UFC history. I'll go

2188
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 1: UFC eight Joe Stevenson versus VJ Penn. You'll recall when

2189
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 1: he is choking Stevens' excuse me, he had already had

2190
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:10,440
Speaker 1: a huge gash on his forehead and as Pen squeezed

2191
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 1: the choke, it shot a seven inch guyser out of

2192
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 1: the forehead of Joe Stevenson. That was a bad one.

2193
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 1: That was a bad dude.

2194
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 2: No bigfoot hunt won.

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01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 1: That was a bad one. Also a bad one, dude.

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01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 2: I that was inhumane. One round five started, I'm like,

2197
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 2: they're gonna die in there, like you know what I mean?

2198
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 1: But you know it gets me after all of these

2199
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:35,639
Speaker 1: bloody ass fights is the person who interviews the winner, who,

2200
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 1: by the way, is also usually like either bleeding or

2201
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 1: covered in blood, like it's a fucking horror movie. And

2202
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 1: they're always like, remember one time to someone did this

2203
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:45,560
Speaker 1: to Tim Kennedy. They were like, Tim, there was so

2204
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 1: much blood in this fight. How do you feel? He's like,

2205
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:49,640
Speaker 1: it's just blood. I'm like, oh yeah, the thing that

2206
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 1: gives you life just that is that? Is that what

2207
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: just happened?

2208
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 2: But it can go too far, like like in hindsight,

2209
01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 2: for is awesome of a fight? What was it Rory

2210
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 2: versus Lawler? How did it? Saying? Amount of blood?

2211
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: Also a ship ton of blood on that one.

2212
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 2: That was a gross amount of blood that was that

2213
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 2: was very.

2214
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 1: Like, you know, it's super bad when like they're trying

2215
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 1: to go for submissions and then they're slipping off because

2216
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 1: the combination of sweat and blood makes it way too

2217
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:14,760
Speaker 1: hard to hold on.

2218
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 4: And then the UFC, sorry it wasn't in the UFC,

2219
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 4: but Nicholas Dolby versus Ross Houston and ess no contest due.

2220
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:27,720
Speaker 1: To the blood bath. A blood bath, yes, And then

2221
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:29,599
Speaker 1: you see if you go to some of these cage

2222
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 1: surfaces outside the UFC that are like still slippery, the

2223
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 1: blood pours on it, and then they're slipping in their

2224
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 1: own blood like a fucking three stooges, skit gone bad

2225
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 1: or something.

2226
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when you got to shut the whole promotion down,

2227
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 2: you know, just just.

2228
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 1: Send them to the gulag, all right? With that in mind, BC,

2229
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 1: that's our top five. Those are our dms from Donks.

2230
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 1: It's time for BC's specs. What you got fourth, bro?

2231
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I scoured the globe, but I was sick when

2232
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:55,600
Speaker 2: I was doing it, so don't judge me by my

2233
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 2: she at right here. But I you know, it's it's

2234
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 2: viral videos to make Luke's. This one's called b c's feces.

2235
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 2: All right, Luc, it's time. It's time for MMA fighters

2236
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:16,680
Speaker 2: in the wild, my favorite one, Luke. It starts off

2237
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 2: in Vancouver WWE Survivor Series war games and there's the

2238
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 2: chant Ballah Muhammad getting that TKO rub.

2239
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 1: He announced today that he's back to training, so the

2240
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 1: antibiotics worked good for him.

2241
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 2: There we go. I can't wait to see who it's

2242
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 2: gonna be, Shavcott or that other guy, Luke. Let's go

2243
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 2: over to Leon Edwards. He was at the match room

2244
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 2: card on his own. It was five versus Edwards, Sonny

2245
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:46,640
Speaker 2: Edwards retiring after the loss. But did you hear that?

2246
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 2: Leon told the Dizonne announcers that he's headlining UFC London

2247
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 2: in March, no opponent named as of yet.

2248
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, people just forgot about him. Have you noticed that? Yes?

2249
01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 2: Who do you think it's gonna be? Luke?

2250
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:03,599
Speaker 1: Let me see, I'm gonna Brady. I'm thinking Sean Brady.

2251
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 1: That's a good one. I wouldn't mind that one. Sean Brady.

2252
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 1: Also Jack Dayla, Jack Dela Medelin.

2253
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 2: No, I've heard the Jack Della rumors. Strong on the

2254
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 2: old x Luke, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, yep, they're gonna save him for what the upcoming

2256
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 1: Australian card could be.

2257
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't know anymore. All I know is

2258
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 2: that Los Angeles card is gonna be good, right with Arman?

2259
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:29,559
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so, I'm not sure, Luke.

2260
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 2: Angela Hill has begun, uh booty training for the amous

2261
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 2: elbows of Gillian Robertson. You remember those, Luke, this is

2262
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 2: the preparation by old Ange. Your thoughts.

2263
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 1: I do like Angela Hill a lot.

2264
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 3: I okay, right, all right?

2265
01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:03,759
Speaker 2: What kind of show is this? Heah, hello, my baby?

2266
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 2: Hell Luke? You al Romero looked like a stud there

2267
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 2: in Dirty Boxing last week, but we forgot to show

2268
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:11,599
Speaker 2: him coming into the ring. Check this out.

2269
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, he's athletic enough to make that total tumble

2270
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 1: look like it was absolutely designed that way.

2271
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 2: Yes, Luke, you would never walk again after that back bump, never.

2272
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 1: Not in a million years. I'd be paralyzed from the

2273
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 1: neck down.

2274
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 2: Luke. Did you hear what Johnny Meat told the Schmo

2275
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 2: about the realist of the real Mike Perry?

2276
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 1: Is this an N word? Drop? Mike Perry is one

2277
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 1: of the realist niggas W've ever lived here. It is there.

2278
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:42,559
Speaker 2: It is Luke. Wow, Wow, I mean two percent, Luke.

2279
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 2: You gotta give him that respect, right.

2280
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:48,679
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan's best joke is when he talks about evolution.

2281
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 1: So it's a different topic, but it's a similar kind

2282
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 1: of concept, which is that he's like, you know, we

2283
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:58,880
Speaker 1: have similarity to DNA chimps, like ninety nine percent. He's like,

2284
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 1: but that's really not as much as you think. Because

2285
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 1: if I gave you a ham sandwich and it was

2286
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 1: it was, it was ninety nine percent ham and one

2287
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 1: percent shit, it's not a ham sandwich. There's a meaning

2288
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 1: you're not you know what I mean? Like, And of

2289
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 1: course he's talking about evolution. That's not the same thing.

2290
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:20,640
Speaker 2: But tell that to Don Davis. Luke, okay here right,

2291
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? There you go, Luke. You

2292
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 2: know if you took Tooks out for ice cream and

2293
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 2: she's like, daddy, is that kane Velaskaz what would be

2294
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:29,559
Speaker 2: your reaction?

2295
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 1: I like how his legs are just kicking like a

2296
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:33,599
Speaker 1: little kid.

2297
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 2: He's enjoying himself.

2298
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 1: Bro, this is how people roll up on me when

2299
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:38,679
Speaker 1: I'm high as shit out in DC.

2300
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 2: Dude, my best friend Bogo and I once went into

2301
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 2: Cumberland Farms in the eighth Row Deep and there was

2302
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:50,679
Speaker 2: a shirtless guy with a huge snake at like midnight,

2303
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 2: just walking around just like casually.

2304
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 1: And it's like, you see that was like that in

2305
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 1: New York City all the time. Though.

2306
01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's that's where I live, Luke, Okay,

2307
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 2: that's where I live. Do you know that's the town

2308
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 2: that made me all right? That I'm one with that

2309
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 2: snake fella? I bet uh, Luke, you know the uh

2310
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 2: your favorite person that we now feature here, the real

2311
01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:14,640
Speaker 2: or Cake Lady. She's got another greatest hit for you.

2312
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:16,519
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Who look at the.

2313
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 2: He I found out, Luke. She speaks French. I don't

2314
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 2: know if she speaks English at all, but.

2315
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 1: Uh, here we go. I just eat it all, you

2316
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:28,599
Speaker 1: absolute goat. I've seen that barn animal.

2317
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:30,720
Speaker 2: How does how does her fame end?

2318
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 1: What?

2319
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 2: What's what's the mountaintop moment?

2320
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: You know, hopefully it's a Darwin Award and it's on camera.

2321
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:37,600
Speaker 1: That's all I'm really asking for.

2322
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 2: I mean, well, she just pretend like present something that

2323
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 2: looks like shit. But then we'll turn out to the

2324
01:50:42,160 --> 01:50:42,559
Speaker 2: cake and then.

2325
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:44,600
Speaker 1: We'll go she should just do a hasslin pee on

2326
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 1: her and be like, oh, it's actually frosting.

2327
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:50,680
Speaker 2: All right. Luke, you mentioned how much you hate when

2328
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 2: people set up cameras at the gym and film themselves

2329
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:55,600
Speaker 2: twitch standard. They do that at my gym too, and

2330
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. Uh, this guy must hate this

2331
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:00,639
Speaker 2: set up. Watch watch what happens next.

2332
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 1: Could you row with less weight?

2333
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:04,800
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2334
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, go fuck yourself with the long stairs? Why don't

2335
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 1: you put some weight on that fucking rowing? Yeah? Absolute dork.

2336
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, that was aggressive, Luke. There is new do

2337
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 2: you hear? They have new milk for men. They're targeting

2338
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 2: men here.

2339
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:31,679
Speaker 8: It has hit the stores, keep refrigerated, yes, yes, definitely,

2340
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 8: But it requires this type of excretion process, Luke to

2341
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:36,560
Speaker 8: make it.

2342
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Bro, that's you and Long Island Luke. After the

2343
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 1: show is over, I know.

2344
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 2: Oh boy, well I do usually have to pee so

2345
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:46,560
Speaker 2: bad and I can taste it at the end of

2346
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,440
Speaker 2: that show. Wow, It's like, do I risk my reputation

2347
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 2: by pausing the show to urinate? That's what That's what

2348
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 2: I'm up against, you know what I mean?

2349
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:55,719
Speaker 1: That's the there's not much left of your reputation.

2350
01:51:55,920 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 2: Just Luke. Maybe Joe Rogan was right about the dangers

2351
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:02,599
Speaker 2: of nuclear bombs, right.

2352
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 1: Bro, that's a high end British breakfast, Yes it is.

2353
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2354
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:17,760
Speaker 1: They'll they'll put that monstrosity, that fucking raccoon food. They'll

2355
01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 1: put that on toast and be like, oh, this is

2356
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 1: Grandma's fucking you know, famous whatever. They'll give it a name,

2357
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:28,560
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, it's it's just garbage. You have

2358
01:52:28,640 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 1: some cigarette butts in there, and while you're out of

2359
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 1: you fucking oaf.

2360
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Luke, let's go to the bar. It's last call

2361
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 2: after this, right, wow, okay, all right, that's uh, that's something. Yeah, dude, Oh.

2362
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,639
Speaker 1: Look at that guy is fucking great. His hair hasn't

2363
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 1: been combed since nineteen eighty three, and his mouth he

2364
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 1: was breathing through it, so he barely knew.

2365
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:59,680
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke, it's been a while, but we might as

2366
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 2: well bring it back. It's time for some elder of you.

2367
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:03,720
Speaker 2: So all right, let's go to the mall.

2368
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:08,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, real hard to hold onto an escalator, you infirm pieces.

2369
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, Luke, all right, I mean.

2370
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 1: Keep tumbling ahead, okay, good job not exercising in your forties.

2371
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:21,760
Speaker 1: And then oh geez, Okay, now I'm starting to feel bad.

2372
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 2: Dude.

2373
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 1: You ever see an escalator beat the fuck out of

2374
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:26,759
Speaker 1: someone through multiple rounds?

2375
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 2: Bad dude, that's a sault lot.

2376
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 1: It's like a dog. Stop trying to fall off of

2377
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 1: it and just.

2378
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:32,600
Speaker 9: Ride it.

2379
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 2: All right? Grow He got a granny down in the

2380
01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:48,680
Speaker 2: next one. Oh yeah, I don't feel good about showing that.

2381
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:50,760
Speaker 2: Let's go to the golf course. Maybe this will make

2382
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 2: you feel better to hit it on.

2383
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 9: The short grass on this hole. Hit him laugh?

2384
01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 1: Oh oh, hope, hope he's dead.

2385
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 2: That was like Leon Edwards against Usman Luke.

2386
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 1: In the world, there's people dying in golf on TV.

2387
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:12,639
Speaker 1: I'm watching.

2388
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 2: Damn damn Luke. We might as well even out the

2389
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 2: world with some child abuse, right, haven't had this in

2390
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 2: a while?

2391
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 1: I know a lot about that.

2392
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 2: How okay, keep your eye on the ball.

2393
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 1: Indeed, I mean, did you see how he was holding

2394
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 1: that bat in his position? Like everything about it was amateurs?

2395
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 2: You know, Looke, be careful if you ever send a

2396
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 2: son to youth football if he has to line up

2397
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 2: across against nose tackle number sixty nine child abuse on

2398
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 2: the way.

2399
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:45,920
Speaker 1: Look at this guy, Luke, Is that the osh lady,

2400
01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 1: who is a Jesus? Who the fuck is this mongoloid?

2401
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 2: Wow? That is okay? That is aggressive?

2402
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 1: Wow? All right, they've got fucking barn animals out there.

2403
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 1: They just put pads on him and tell them to

2404
01:54:58,520 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 1: walk forward.

2405
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:02,600
Speaker 2: Luke, don't put Tukey on the motor sports until she's ready.

2406
01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 2: Let's watch this kid, all right, hit the brakes yep,

2407
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:11,520
Speaker 2: anytime though.

2408
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 1: You know Evil Knievel was a beast.

2409
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, time for ten line of the week, Luke,

2410
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 2: can you explain that.

2411
01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 1: I didn't want her to get burned? Yes?

2412
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 2: Okay? Uh Luke? You know the joy of like a

2413
01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 2: perfect NYC dive bar?

2414
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 1: Right? Oh yeah, they're of the best, whether.

2415
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 2: It's Jimmy's Corner outside of Times Square, boxing Mecho or

2416
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 2: any o the Mcsorleies. I never knew about this next one, watch.

2417
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 9: This Come with me to my favorite dive bar in

2418
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 9: New York City. The reason why this one is my

2419
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:50,680
Speaker 9: favorite is because they give you free hot dogs with

2420
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 9: every drink. The goaded combo to get here bro is

2421
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 9: the all American. You get a shot, a beer and

2422
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:58,640
Speaker 9: Lizzie for five dollars, like you can't find a deal

2423
01:55:58,720 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 9: like that anywhere in New York City.

2424
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sorry.

2425
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 9: They have a ton of other super cheap deals too.

2426
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:03,920
Speaker 9: The cheapest beer is only three dollars, and like I said,

2427
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 9: you get a gizzy with each one. B And beyond that,

2428
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 9: it's just a good vibe. You know, I love clubbing

2429
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 9: and all that, but you know, sometimes I just want

2430
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 9: a nice, divy vibe with some sketchy characters, you know,

2431
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 9: and this is perfect for that. Definitely check it out

2432
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 9: if you're in the city. Oh and brincash, they only

2433
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 9: take ca.

2434
01:56:17,240 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 1: So let max my something too. Let me make my

2435
01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:21,160
Speaker 1: few how expensive New York City is and how impossible

2436
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 1: what they're talking about is there. B See, in two

2437
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 1: thousand and three, I lived there briefly a little long,

2438
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 1: but in two thousand and three I was there. Worst

2439
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 1: year of your life, well as the ear my mom died.

2440
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 1: So thank you. Yes, yeah, I know, great, great, great

2441
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 1: great great Jezus, you go too far and then you

2442
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:40,680
Speaker 1: end up having to have a backtrack, but it's fine.

2443
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 1: I don't care. I went to a party a buddhy

2444
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, come to this party. We're gonna we're

2445
01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 1: all gonna meet at this bar. And this was two

2446
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 1: thousand and three and I ordered, at age twenty three,

2447
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 1: a red Bull in vodka. Remember those? Oh yeah, in

2448
01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and three at a bar in New York City.

2449
01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:00,040
Speaker 1: That was nineteen dollars.

2450
01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 2: That I paid. Those in New York City those were nine.

2451
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 1: That is how fucking insane that place is. And I

2452
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 1: was like, I remember being like, well, one and done,

2453
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 1: and I did it. I had the one and I

2454
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 1: left it. I bought a forty on the way home

2455
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 1: and then cried out, dude.

2456
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 2: I used to speak canned beers into bars to avoid

2457
01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 2: paying that when I like worked in a factory and

2458
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 2: would go, you know, go to the city for a

2459
01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:24,480
Speaker 2: weekend and then realize you really can't pull this off.

2460
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 2: You know, it's really just no.

2461
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 1: There's almost nowhere you can go to park.

2462
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if we could get a glizzy, a shot

2463
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 2: and a hot dog for five bucks, is that even legal?

2464
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:32,880
Speaker 2: I mean, we should we should go there.

2465
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 1: We should get that should.

2466
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 2: Be the official bar of Morning Combat. It's it's not

2467
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:37,800
Speaker 2: far from msg Luke, I don't.

2468
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 1: Know, it's not okay, Yeah, well, Luke, don't you know

2469
01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 1: about it?

2470
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 4: It's forty fourth and ninth. I looked it up because

2471
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 4: I saw that video and was like, damn, I goes

2472
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 4: Hell's kitchen. Yeah, exactly.

2473
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 2: Interesting. All right, let's go to the family photo fail.

2474
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 1: How one shoe can ruin family? Okay, I was gonna

2475
01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 1: say that the grossest looking hog I've seen it quite

2476
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 1: some time.

2477
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 2: Uh. Look, you've heard of a man cave right, Yeah,

2478
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 2: I wish I hadn't about a floor cave.

2479
01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 1: Through. Yeah that's a great. Oh look at him. Yeah. Hey,

2480
01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:25,520
Speaker 1: why don't you vandalize your own property, you fucking moron.

2481
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 2: That's great, that's great. Well, look the holidays are here,

2482
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:35,200
Speaker 2: as you can see, so it is time for a celebration.

2483
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:49,880
Speaker 2: Woo hoo. Well look, if you can't hear it and

2484
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 2: you lose the bit, so that's it. We'll retire that

2485
01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 2: one quietly and move on. Uh did you see this mascot?

2486
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 2: Take this l? I didn't know you could take an

2487
01:58:59,000 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 2: l this hard? Watch this?

2488
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 1: Oh shit?

2489
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 2: Oh that that is that's a ko. That is wow.

2490
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:11,560
Speaker 1: Talk about adding injury to insult.

2491
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:16,280
Speaker 2: That is wild. All right, Luke, you know how much

2492
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:19,440
Speaker 2: I love Reggie Jackson and he is so cool. Although

2493
01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:21,839
Speaker 2: most people in this house hate him, and I understand

2494
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:23,480
Speaker 2: why they hate him, but you know, I have to

2495
01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 2: have his back. But he's not as cool as this cat.

2496
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, smoking that dubes?

2497
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable. Right, wow, what would you call that cat?

2498
01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 1: A puss?

2499
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:43,000
Speaker 2: All right, well that's great, good stuff right there. Look,

2500
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 2: let's hit the football field. It was a big week

2501
01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:51,440
Speaker 2: for football fights. Oh that's a right cross, look at that.

2502
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but right to the face mask.

2503
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:56,080
Speaker 2: It doesn't that's not a rattle of the brain, probably.

2504
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:57,440
Speaker 1: Right, a little bit, a little bit?

2505
01:59:58,040 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, how out a pool trick shot of

2506
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:02,840
Speaker 2: the week. This was all I had this week? I

2507
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:04,640
Speaker 2: was ill, Luke, you got to grade me on a curve,

2508
02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 2: all right.

2509
02:00:17,080 --> 02:00:19,040
Speaker 1: Didn't didn't quite work, but you know you get an

2510
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 1: A for effort.

2511
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look that's all the ish I got. But next

2512
02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:26,640
Speaker 2: week I've already recovered a batch that is just filthy.

2513
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:28,560
Speaker 1: So it's gotta well, you know what, I'll give you

2514
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 1: a break because I know you have full blown aids.

2515
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:33,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, it is what it is. Let's remind everyone

2516
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 1: first of all our normal time. Thank you to everyone

2517
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:38,880
Speaker 1: who watched. Thumbs up. If you're so inclined, yes, that'd

2518
02:00:38,920 --> 02:00:42,760
Speaker 1: be great, subscribe. Here's all our socials Big Morning Combat

2519
02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 1: preview for UFC three ten on Friday, and don't forget

2520
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:49,640
Speaker 1: Morning Combat at gmail dot com. Morningcombat at gmail dot

2521
02:00:49,720 --> 02:00:52,320
Speaker 1: com to get in some dead Wrongs fan subs to

2522
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:54,840
Speaker 1: reach the show the whole nine yards, that's the place

2523
02:00:54,880 --> 02:00:56,520
Speaker 1: to go be see any thoughts before we get out

2524
02:00:56,520 --> 02:00:56,680
Speaker 1: of here.

2525
02:00:57,480 --> 02:01:00,760
Speaker 2: Thank you fans for adjusting to the change in the schedule.

2526
02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:02,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, we're gonna be back with a bank Friday.

2527
02:01:02,920 --> 02:01:05,920
Speaker 2: Just like Luke said, shout out to Long Island Luke

2528
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:08,560
Speaker 2: as well, No Cedar, shout out to you, your word

2529
02:01:08,680 --> 02:01:09,280
Speaker 2: to your mother.

2530
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:13,960
Speaker 1: There he is all right. You can finally go home.

2531
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:17,680
Speaker 1: He can finally go home. BC, get some rest. Good

2532
02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:20,760
Speaker 1: job today. Sorry everyone, and we couldn't be there in studio,

2533
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 1: but it just was cursed from the game.

2534
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:23,600
Speaker 4: You know what.

2535
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:25,839
Speaker 2: Look, this is the best show in combat sports.

2536
02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:29,720
Speaker 1: It can be. It absolutely can be. Yeah, it can be.

2537
02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:33,040
Speaker 1: But we're got it. We're done. Let's get out of here,

2538
02:01:33,080 --> 02:01:34,920
Speaker 1: all right. That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you

2539
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:37,040
Speaker 1: guys so much for watching. We'll catch you on Friday

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Speaker 1: for a full UFC three ten preview. Until next time,

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Speaker 1: may all of your gains be loyal