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Speaker 3: Practices in states that he.

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Speaker 2: Conspiracy of those alleged by Donald Trump, and the sort

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Speaker 7: If we do not restore checks and balances in these

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Speaker 8: What I took away from last night was bad.

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Speaker 5: Bunny said, this is America, now, y'all.

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Speaker 8: This is who we are now. This isn't the future

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Speaker 9: Latinos are part of our past, were the present, and

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Speaker 9: And there is diversity, right. I do not know Puerto

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Speaker 10: So this is largely a political statement that's being made

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Speaker 3: As long as Donald Trumps president.

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Speaker 8: A game that others want you to play.

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Speaker 5: What you saw last night was the future coming to

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Speaker 11: Trump has never been less powerful. The agenda he's pursuing

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Speaker 12: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray

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Speaker 8: In these people.

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Speaker 6: He's not got a free shot.

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Speaker 12: All these networks lying about the people, the people have

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Speaker 6: Belly full of it.

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Speaker 7: And where do people like that go to share the

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Speaker 12: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 12: Bath Tuesday, ten February, Year of Elwer twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 12: The Senate are actually bringing up a different piece of

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Speaker 13: Sir, Yeah, I mean, I would say to these Democrats

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Speaker 6: This must pass.

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Speaker 13: Senate Republicans should not have any excuse for not passing this.

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Speaker 6: It's an eighty twenty issue again.

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Speaker 12: Purge of voter rolls of because this is how they

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, how are dead people supposed to vote?

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Speaker 13: And here's the tell that Democrats are concerns that immigration

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Speaker 6: And so if illegals are going to vote, they're already

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Speaker 12: They're in a complete meltdown about President Trump saying he's

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Speaker 12: Why the left literally every day they're hammery, They're saying

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Speaker 6: Democrats use COVID to change election laws.

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Speaker 13: They mass mailed ballots out to old voter lists, including

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Speaker 6: This will change.

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Speaker 12: You'll actually show how they stole a presidential election and

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Speaker 6: He is fighting every day for America.

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Speaker 13: He knows that if he does not succeed, America is

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Speaker 13: and we are certainly not out of the woods. Trump

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Speaker 6: We are going to become Europe. We're going to look

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Speaker 13: Mass invasion of Europe with Islamists all over Europe who.

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Speaker 6: Are conquering Europe. They've conquered the United Kingdom.

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Speaker 13: We have an Islamist in New York City who is

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Speaker 6: This is they are here.

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Speaker 13: And if Trump does not succeed in getting these illegal aliens,

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Speaker 6: We are conquered.

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Speaker 12: Mike a minute, what should people look for in this Senate?

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Speaker 12: I know you get a bounce. The Senate of fight.

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Speaker 12: Schmidt goes to mar Lago. Lindsey Graham goes to mar Lago.

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Speaker 12: They watch the Super Bowl with the President. They come

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Speaker 12: the word, I want to fight this thing in the Senate.

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Speaker 12: What should we look for, sir in this fight?

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Speaker 13: Look, I think Eric Schmidt is a bold and fearless

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Speaker 13: warrior for the Constitution, and so I am very happy

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Speaker 13: he's going to serve as the tip of the spear

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Speaker 13: on this. He was a very he's been a very

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Speaker 13: on this lawfair he's on the Judiciary Committee. So hats

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Speaker 13: off to Senator Eric SCHMIDTZ. We should all get behind

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Speaker 12: We're Article three one more time, give me the pitch

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Speaker 13: That's Article three, Project dot org. Article number three, Project

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Speaker 13: dot Org. The most critical action item on the screen

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Speaker 13: right now is click on the top right, which is

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Speaker 13: the Save Act. Tell Congress to stop your legal immigrants

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Speaker 12: Thank you, brother, appreciate you. Now what you got to do,

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Speaker 12: Let's do it. Short commercial break. James Rosen, chief Washington

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Speaker 12: correspondent for Newsmax, his new book, the second installment of

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Speaker 12: the biography Escaliam.

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Speaker 4: Here's your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back.

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Speaker 12: James Rosen, the chief Washing correspondent for Newsmaks, joins us.

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Speaker 12: Today is publishing day for the second volume of his

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Speaker 12: magisterial biography of Justice Scalia. The first book was The

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Speaker 12: Rise to Great Greatness. This is the Supreme Court years.

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Speaker 12: It's the first part of Scalia's time on the bench,

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Speaker 12: I think from nineteen eighty six or eighty seven, all

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Speaker 12: thousand election. James, first off, it is I want you

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Speaker 12: to tell us about the book, but more probably what

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Speaker 12: inspired you. You're you're one of the top news people

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Speaker 12: in DC. You have been for decades and decades. You're

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Speaker 12: now the chief Washing correspondent for NEWSMAS, which you oversee

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Speaker 12: an incredible branch. You guys are breaking news all the

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Speaker 12: time doing stories. You just wrote a huge piece in

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Speaker 12: the New York Times. We'll get to in a moment.

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Speaker 12: How do you find time? I mean, what is the

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Speaker 12: inspiration that felt you had to do this and take

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Speaker 12: as much time and energy not just to do the

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Speaker 12: research in the interviews.

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Speaker 6: But write this book.

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Speaker 12: It's just a beautifully written book.

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Speaker 14: Thank you on all accounts, Steve, and it's great to

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Speaker 14: be back with you. You ask about the time I steal

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Speaker 14: it from my family and this originally began this book

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Speaker 14: as a concise biography of Antonin Scalia, and as Missus

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Speaker 14: Rosen can tell you, I don't do anything concisely. And

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Speaker 14: I wrote about one hundred and seventy thousand words and

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Speaker 14: I had just gotten the man to sit down in

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Speaker 14: his chair at the Supreme Court. So that was volume one,

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Speaker 14: published three years ago. Scalia Rise to Greatness nineteen thirty

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Speaker 14: six to nineteen eighty six. The new book released today

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Speaker 14: and you're very kind to have me on to promote

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Speaker 14: it is Scalia's Supreme Court Years nineteen eighty six to

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Speaker 14: two thousand and one, and this covers the first half

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Speaker 14: of Justice Scalia's nearly thirty terms on the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 14: It starts with his first day on the court and

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Speaker 14: takes us all the way through the national trauma of

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Speaker 14: And what inspired me was watching Scale on television when

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Speaker 14: participate in these PBS debate programs, and they were sort

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Speaker 14: would be Antonin Scalia, Dan Rather, Gerald Ford, you know,

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Speaker 14: Alexander Haig, and Scalia struck me as being fundamentally different

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Speaker 14: from everyone else on that stage. He was, first of all,

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Speaker 14: like me in Outer Borough, New Yorker, where he was

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Speaker 14: born in New Jersey, but he was raised in Queens.

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Speaker 14: I'm from Staten Island. He has that sort of sarcastic,

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Speaker 14: to begin with, which a lot of people in official

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Speaker 14: life don't really display. When I came to Fox News

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Speaker 14: in nineteen ninety nine to Washington, I wrote to Scalia

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Speaker 14: and he wrote back and basically said, I have a

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Speaker 14: policy which makes it that I don't make a spectacle

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Speaker 14: of mysel as a judge, but I'd be happy to

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Speaker 14: get together for lunch. And I said, I appreciate your policy,

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Speaker 14: but what other than a spectacle should we call it?

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Speaker 14: When you're appearing on a theater in the round setting

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Speaker 14: hypothetical scenarios. And Scalia wrote back, and he said, you

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Speaker 14: know you are right right there. That's in a major concession.

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Speaker 14: A lot of his clerks never heard those words. Maybe

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Speaker 14: some of his children never heard those words. You are right.

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Speaker 14: I probably should not have done that those PBS shows.

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Speaker 14: We had lunch twice and we continued writing to each other.

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Speaker 14: We had a really amusing correspondence. The lunches were off

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Speaker 14: the atmospherics and the correspondence between us, and that's all

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Speaker 14: in the book. There's a chapter in the book called

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Speaker 14: the Rabbit, and this is about what it was like

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Speaker 14: when I was thirty years old and not a lawyer,

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Speaker 14: still not a lawyer, to have lunch with antonin Scalia,

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Speaker 14: where we're knocking back red wine, and he overruled my

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Speaker 14: lunch order. Steve America, his foremost opponent of judicial activism.

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Speaker 14: When I ordered the veal at his favorite restaurant, now gone,

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Speaker 14: the av Ristauranti Italiano, he overruled my order and said

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Speaker 14: looked at him and said rabbit. He goes, yeah, he's

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Speaker 14: gonna you're gonna like the rabbit. Give him the rabbit.

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Speaker 14: I didn't want rabbit, and I haven't had it since Steve.

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Speaker 14: And all of this appears in this book, Scalia Supreme

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Speaker 12: So you're not a lawyer, and I don't think you're beat.

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Speaker 12: When he first got there was covering the courts, because

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Speaker 12: you're not a lawyer. But tell me why do you

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Speaker 12: Because in this volume, I think you're making the case

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Speaker 12: that he's not just simply one of the most important

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Speaker 12: jurists ever sit on the Supreme Court ever, but he's

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Speaker 12: one of the most important personages in modern political history

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Speaker 12: and maybe all of American political history.

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Speaker 14: Sir Well, I wouldn't even confine him to political history.

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Speaker 14: Because when you're one of the nine justices sitting on

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Speaker 14: decisions are going to touch every aspect of American life.

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Speaker 14: Scalia's legacy as a justice is profound and stretches across

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Speaker 14: all known sectors of American life. One example is criminal

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Speaker 14: defendant's rights, and he wrote a key opinion, for example,

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Speaker 14: that rendered it that held it unconstitutional for accused sex

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Speaker 14: And Scalia said, hey, as a textualist, as an originalist,

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Speaker 14: busted out the dictionaries. Confront means confront, It means eyeball

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Speaker 14: to eyeball, And while that might be painful for the

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Speaker 14: alleged victim, nonetheless that's what justice requires. That's one example,

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Speaker 14: and that's that's not just pulit a history. The way

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Speaker 14: Why he's one of the most important Americans of the

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Speaker 14: last hundred years is because of the judicial philosophy he

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Speaker 14: what the laws mean. And when Scalia came along as

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Speaker 14: That's where their famous friendship began. Where he sat with

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Speaker 14: Just an incredible array of talent on that court. When

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Speaker 14: an accordion to account for things that the founders never

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Speaker 14: Scalia stood athwart all that he said, the intent of

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Speaker 14: what lawmakers intended. We know what they intended. It's the

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Speaker 14: text of the law. That was a profound revolution in

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Speaker 14: by judges and justices by the time he died. When

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Speaker 14: Supreme Court by the time he died. Even Ellena Kagan,

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Speaker 14: the Supreme Court justice appointed by President Obama, had proclaimed

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Speaker 14: in essence, thanks to the Scalia Revolution, we are all originalists.

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Speaker 12: Now, let's talk about that revolution when he first got there,

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Speaker 12: because you had the reason even got the slot. As

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Speaker 12: they made renquists, went from associate justice to become the

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Speaker 12: chief Justice. And of course there was a lot of

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Speaker 12: ranker in his confirmation hearing. I think you said thirty

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Speaker 12: three votes against, which was a record at the time.

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Speaker 12: That would be a landslide today, but times are different.

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Speaker 12: You also had I think Scalia was ninety eight to nothing.

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Speaker 12: But when he first got on the court, what was

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Speaker 12: his reception? In the book, what's his reception as he

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Speaker 12: starts putting this judicial philosophy because they always had these

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Speaker 12: conferences right immediately after they immediately after the case comes in,

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Speaker 12: classic conservative. How is it taken?

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Speaker 14: So when he was on the Court of Appeals, the

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Speaker 14: judges ruled on cases in groups of three, and it

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Speaker 14: was very intimate and collegial, and he could which just

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Speaker 14: waltz down the hall and kibbets with Ruth Bader Ginsburg

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Speaker 14: or Abner Mikvah or any of the people who had

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Speaker 14: been appointed by Democrats. It was all very collegial. When

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Speaker 14: he got to the Supreme Court, he was made to

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Speaker 14: understand by his robed colleagues that there would be no

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Speaker 14: kibbutzing in chambers, that there would be no give and take,

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Speaker 14: no arguments about how they should rule in the conferences.

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Speaker 14: Renquist as chief Justice, as an associate justice, had labored

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Speaker 14: under and chafed under these long winded perorations by the

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Speaker 14: Chief Justice warren Berger, and Renquist was determined when he

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Speaker 14: became chief we're gonna run these conferences quick. We're gonna

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Speaker 14: go around the table. You're gonna say how you're voting.

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Speaker 14: You give a couple of lines of explanation, and that's it.

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Speaker 14: And Scalia, who had been a professor, loved debate. He

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Speaker 14: loved getting into it. His sons told me that if

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Speaker 14: he should stumble into a room where they're watching a

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Speaker 14: football game, even if he doesn't know the players or

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Speaker 14: which teams are playing, if he got a sense of

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Speaker 14: which team his sons were rooting for, he'd start animatedly

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Speaker 14: rooting for the other team. He just loved to mix

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Speaker 14: it up like that. But at the Supreme Court, he

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Speaker 14: called it a locked vault. That's the name of the

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Speaker 14: chapter about his early days there. And it took some

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Speaker 14: getting used to, and so, like a mighty river redirected,

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Speaker 14: he instead turned his energies to oral arguments, which is

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Speaker 14: the only public setting of the Supreme Court's work, where

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Speaker 14: spectators are allowed in to watch the proceedings, and he

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Speaker 14: began dominating oral argument and producing riotous laughter in the

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Speaker 14: Supreme Court. Studies have been done and they showed it

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Speaker 14: far and away. Antonin Scalia was not only the most

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Speaker 14: frequent questioner on his time on the court, but also

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Speaker 14: most frequently the one to produce laughter. And you can

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Speaker 14: listen to those recordings of these oral arguments, even in

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Speaker 14: bushby Gore, and the laughter that Scalia produces it's like

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Speaker 14: comedy club laughter. It's not polite laughter as you might

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Speaker 14: see at a congressional earring. It's like explosive laughing and

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Speaker 14: clapping that goes on for ten seconds. And just like

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Speaker 14: a pro he would know to wait and then start

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Speaker 14: in with his additional questioning. So he was seen as

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Speaker 14: a kind of a bull in the china shop. But

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Speaker 14: the truth is he was pressing upon his colleagues, people

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Speaker 14: like Sandred O'Connor, Thurgood Marshall, William Brennan. These are some

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Speaker 14: hallowed names. He was, in essence pressing him, Hey, tighten

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Speaker 14: up your act. Okay, you are not obeying the law.

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Speaker 14: You are not actually interpreting the law according to what

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Speaker 14: the text says. You're doing crazy things, like saying like

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Speaker 14: a nineteen seventy six law was actually preempted by an

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Speaker 14: earlier law, like crazy rulings, and he stood athwart all that.

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Speaker 14: And this book, Scalia's Supreme Court year is nineteen eighty

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Speaker 14: six to two thousand and one, has all of the

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Speaker 14: memos back and forth between Scalia and the other justices,

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Speaker 14: their personal letters, which sometimes got snippy. At one point,

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Speaker 14: Scalia declares to Justice Harry Blackman, the author of Roe v. Wade,

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Speaker 14: who did not like Scalia, I am hurt, Scalia wrote

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Speaker 14: to him at one point, I am hurt that she

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Speaker 14: would accuse me of X, Y and Z. So there's

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Speaker 14: a lot of human drama here as well as the law,

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Speaker 14: and as well as shaping of American society.

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Speaker 12: I'm holding through the break to talking about this New

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Speaker 12: York Times peaks. We've got about ninety seconds here. Make

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Speaker 12: your pitch why non lawyers and people that don't follow

726
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Speaker 12: the Supreme Court so closely should buy this book and

727
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Speaker 12: buy it today.

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Speaker 14: This book is written for non lawyers. Reading it myself,

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Speaker 14: I'm telling you, I crack up all the time at

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Speaker 14: Scalia and his antics and his brilliance and his wit.

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Speaker 14: If you want to know how we got to modern America,

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Speaker 14: And if you want to know about the life and

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Speaker 14: thinking of one of our greatest patriots and really one

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Speaker 14: of our greatest literary stylists, you're going to read this book. Scalia,

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Speaker 14: Supreme Court Years nineteen eighty six to two thousand and one.

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Speaker 12: Okay, we've had a pretty good track record here of

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Speaker 12: getting books on the New York Times Bestseller List. We

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Speaker 12: need this book on the New York Times Bestseller List

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Speaker 12: number one to send a message that books about leading

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Speaker 12: figures and dominant personalities in the conservative movement have a

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Speaker 12: broad readership out there. I tell people also, having seen

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Speaker 12: this and done some background studies on it of James's

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Speaker 12: the first volume, which is amazing, that this is a

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Speaker 12: book you want to buy and give to young people

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Speaker 12: in your life. This is a book that shows you,

746
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Speaker 12: you know, Slia came from a very middle class environment, uh,

747
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Speaker 12: you know, just a hard working guy, kept his nose

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Speaker 12: down and rose not just at the top of his profession,

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Speaker 12: but become one of the most important people, as James says,

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Speaker 12: one of the most important people in American history. And

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Speaker 12: the first the first volume is I call it Badgisterial.

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Speaker 12: The second volumes out. It's in bookstores today. Knowing how

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Speaker 12: they they rig it, you may have to go and

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Speaker 12: actually ask for the title. It may not be at

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Speaker 12: the front of Barnes and Noble, but Scalia the White

756
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Speaker 12: The Supreme Court Years is out today. You can get

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Speaker 12: it on Amazon. More importantly for voting on the For

758
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Speaker 12: the way the New York Times calculates, go to a

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Speaker 12: bookstore and get it. We're to take a short commercial break,

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Speaker 12: James Rosen on the other.

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Speaker 4: Side, here's your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 6: Bath.

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Speaker 12: Okay, the second volume of Scalia. This one's The Supreme

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Speaker 12: Court Years, which is basically the first part of Justice

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Speaker 12: Scalia's term on the Supreme Court. A must read. Also,

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Speaker 12: get a copy for a young person in your life.

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Speaker 12: We need role models, and Scalia is a role model.

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Speaker 12: Whether you want to go into law or you have

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Speaker 12: interests in the Supreme Court or not. You'll learning a

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Speaker 12: lot about American history and the direction of American history. So,

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Speaker 12: James Rosen, you also had in The New York Times

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Speaker 12: a day or a Sunday, I don't know, six seven,

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Speaker 12: eight thousand words maybe more a huge story which was

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Speaker 12: I think one of the most important stories about Richard Nixon,

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Speaker 12: about law Fair, and about President Trump and where we

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Speaker 12: currently stand as a country. The title is kind of

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Speaker 12: an obscure title. Why it's really the title should have

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Speaker 12: been like the Secret History of the Deep State. This

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Speaker 12: is a profound and powerful piece. I'm shocked the New

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Speaker 12: York Times publisher. Can you walk our audience through, because

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Speaker 12: we've talked about Lawfair a lot with Nixon as kind

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Speaker 12: of the Kansas Kansas as bloody Kansas was to the

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Speaker 12: Civil War. So the Lawfair against Nixon was exactly what

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Speaker 12: they've done to Trump.

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Speaker 14: Sir, well, thank you, Steve. One of my previous books,

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Speaker 14: my first book was called The strong Man, John Mitchell

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Speaker 14: and the Secrets of Watergate, published by Doubleday in two

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Speaker 14: thousand and eight, and it told the story of Richard

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Speaker 14: Nixon's law partner and his campaign manager in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 14: eight when he won, and the Attorney General of the

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Speaker 14: United States John Mitchell, who then went to prison for

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Speaker 14: his role in the Watergate cover up, the highest ranking

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Speaker 14: US official ever to serve time. So I've been at

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Speaker 14: work on Nixon and Watergate for a very long time. Honestly,

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Speaker 14: I've been obsessed with it. Since I'm a child, I'm

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Speaker 14: ashamed to tell you I did play Little League. I

797
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Speaker 14: had a normal childhood. I want you to understand, Steve,

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Speaker 14: but I've had this obsession for a long time. And

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Speaker 14: one of the episodes of the first Nixon tern before Watergate,

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Speaker 14: that is the most important in his presidency, was something

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Speaker 14: that very few people know about today. It was called

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Speaker 14: the more Radford Affair. And this was the discovery by

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Speaker 14: the White House Plumbers that was a secret group that

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Speaker 14: was formed to plug news leaks after the release of

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Speaker 14: the Pentagon papers to the New York Times. The plumbers

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Speaker 14: were the ones who broke into the Watergate complex and

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Speaker 14: planted the wire taps in the Democratic National Committee headquarters.

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Speaker 14: The plumbers were the ones who broke into the psychiatrist's

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Speaker 14: office for the physician who was treating Daniel Ellsberg, the

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Speaker 14: men that leaked the Pentagon papers to the New York Times.

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Speaker 14: But one of the other projects that the plumbers worked

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Speaker 14: on was this more Radford affair. And what happened was

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Speaker 14: there was a very famous columnist at the time, Jack Anderson,

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Speaker 14: who won a Pulitzer Prize for publishing contents of some

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Speaker 14: White House and Defense Department memoranda, and also the minutes

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Speaker 14: taken at a National Security Council meeting that had occurred

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Speaker 14: just ten days earlier. Okay, that was one of the

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Speaker 14: most astonishing leaks in the history of the United States government,

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Speaker 14: that Henry Kissinger, running the National Security Council is having

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Speaker 14: a private meeting with his aides about what to do

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Speaker 14: about the India Pakistan War. The United States was publicly neutral,

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Speaker 14: but they were sort of tilting towards Pakistan because Pakistan

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Speaker 14: was helping Nixon arrange his trip to China, and Kissinger

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Speaker 14: was basically telling his own staff, I'm catching hell from

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Speaker 14: the President every half hour because he thinks we're not

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Speaker 14: doing enough to till towards Pakistan. So how are we

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Speaker 14: fulfilling his orders? And Jack Anderson published that like ten

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Speaker 14: or eleven days later and won the Pulitzer Prize. The

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Speaker 14: plumbers went to work on the league. They swiftly zeroed

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Speaker 14: in on a twenty eight year old Navy yeoman still

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Speaker 14: alive now eighty two, named Charles Radford. At the time

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Speaker 14: in December nineteen seventy one, when the Anderson columns ran,

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Speaker 14: Radford was twenty eight years old. He was a trained

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Speaker 14: navy stenographer, courier, body man, etc. And he had been

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Speaker 14: assigned to Kissinger and his deputy at the time, Alexander Haig,

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Speaker 14: to work in those functions, and he accompanied both men

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Speaker 14: on trips around the world to foreign capitals, to Vietnam,

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Speaker 14: to Pakistan, et Ce, even to China when Kissinger was

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Speaker 14: setting up that trip for President Nixon, and under instructions

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Speaker 14: from his supervisors at the Pentagon, Joman Radford, as he

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Speaker 14: later admitted, stole about five thousand documents classified documents from

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Speaker 14: the NSC, diving into wastebaskets, burned bags. Anything he saw,

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Speaker 14: he made a copy of it at xerox. If he

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Speaker 14: didn't couldn't copy it, he memorized it. And he delivered

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Speaker 14: this back to a pair of admirals, who in turn

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Speaker 14: gave all these documents to the Joint Chiefs of Staff,

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Speaker 14: America's top military uniformed commanders. The chairman of the Joint

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Speaker 14: Chiefs of Staff at that time benefiting from this spir

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Speaker 14: ring was Admiral Thomas Moore, who had been the Chief

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Speaker 14: of Naval Operations and then had become the Chairman of

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Speaker 14: the Joint Chiefs of Staff. And the plumbers found this

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Speaker 14: Yeomen they polygraphed him. He broke down and cried because

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Speaker 14: he was a devout Mormon. He admitted knowing Jack Anderson,

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Speaker 14: who was also a Mormon. Their families were friendly through church.

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Speaker 14: He denied giving the documents to Anderson, which the FBI

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Speaker 14: or the NSA, which conducted the wire the polygraph, found

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Speaker 14: to be deceptive, but he admitted giving these documents to

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Speaker 14: the Joint chiefs of Staff. In the year two thousand,

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Speaker 14: Steve October of two thousand, the tape of President Nixon

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Speaker 14: being informed of this development for the first time was

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Speaker 14: released by the National Archives. It was a rare nighttime

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Speaker 14: session in the Oval Office December twenty one, nineteen seventy one,

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Speaker 14: and not until the year two thousand was that tape declassified.

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Speaker 14: And when it was, there was only one lonely researcher

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Speaker 14: in America who showed up at the National Archives to

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Speaker 14: hear that tape, and that was me. And I listened

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Speaker 14: to the tape of that meeting where it's Nixon only

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Speaker 14: the heavy hitters. Nixon hauled him in the Chief of

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Speaker 14: staff Erlikman, who ran the plumbers, and John Mitchell, the

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Speaker 14: Attorney General, President's confidant and friend Henry Kissinger was excluded

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Speaker 14: from the meeting because they saw him as a profligate

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Speaker 14: leaker who was part of a problem in some way.

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Speaker 14: And it fell to Erlikman to explain to the President,

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Speaker 14: we've just discted through using a polygraph and investigative means,

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Speaker 14: that the Joint Chiefs of Staff have been spying on you,

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Speaker 14: stealing documents from the National Security Council delivering it to

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Speaker 14: the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff for thirteen

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Speaker 14: months in wartime. It was a unique crisis that no

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Speaker 14: president had ever faced. Nixon on the tape says this

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Speaker 14: is a federal offense of the highest order, and he

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Speaker 14: demands that Admiral Moore, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs

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Speaker 14: of Staff, be prosecuted for espionage. John Mitchell, the Attorney General, says,

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Speaker 14: in essence, we can't do that because all your secret

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Speaker 14: operations around the world, in Cambodian elsewhere would leak. But

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Speaker 14: we're gonna go see Tom Moore. We're gonna tell him

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Speaker 14: this ball game's over with, and we're gonna wire tap

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Speaker 14: this yellman, and we're gonna send him far out of town.

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Speaker 14: And they did all of those things I published the

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Speaker 14: contents of those tapes in the Atlantic Monthly in two

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Speaker 14: thousand and two, and I expanded on its James, James,

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Speaker 14: can I.

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Speaker 6: Hold you just through this break? At short break, I

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Speaker 6: want to get this story.

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Speaker 14: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 6: The criticize him.

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Speaker 12: Even back then, the Pentagon did not trust Kissinger, did

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