WEBVTT - Phil Rosenthal 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.320 When my Christmas wish didn't happen. I know what you're wondering, Wells, 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:07.840 what is your Christmas wish? I was hoping that was 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:10.479 all a bad dream and then we were going to 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:14.560 get transported back to March thirteenth. This all wouldn't have 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:19.120 happened happen. I mean, Santa, come on, you had one job. 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.800 I didn't need the cutting board that I got from you. 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:26.440 I appreciate the cutting board. That wrong, they're excited about it. 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:28.920 I kind of just wanted some time travel, Santa, and 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:32.440 it didn't happen. Okay, so I'm a little peeved, a 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.040 little annoyed. Dot tell you was getting some coal and 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:39.519 you're stocking. Is you there, Satan, Nicholas, Chris Kringle, I 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.840 mean names you got anyways, sort of think that maybe 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.680 you're not real whatever? Rolling This is a Wells cast 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:50.640 with Wells atoms and I heart radio. Podcast. That is true. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.320 That is what it is. It is a podcast tosted 0:00:53.479 --> 0:01:02.440 by your truly atoms. I'm so excited about today's show. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.840 I think you guys will be as well. Everyone that 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.399 I talked to on this show has a job that 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.520 you probably with Shad. Let's be fair. Everyone's either a 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:16.280 famous musician or famous actor, or a model, or a 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:20.080 famous chef or famous athlete. And I imagine a lot 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.479 of people that listen to the show I think themselves. Man, 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:25.679 I would love to be them, And I agree with you. 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:27.680 Here's the thing, of all the people that I've had 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.680 on this show, I think that this guy is the 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.679 guy whose job I want the most. No joke. His 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:40.120 story is crazy and extremely diverse. His resume is packed 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.679 to the brim of everything Hollywood. He's a New York 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:47.560 boy who had the hofstra. He wanted to be an actor. 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.600 He hustled New York and eventually he found his little 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:55.760 niche in writing. He wrote on the show Coach Craig T. Nelson. 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.880 He wrote on a short lived show called baby Talk. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:01.960 He acted in projects for Um Spanglish, the Simpsons movie, 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:05.760 Curb Your Enthusiasm, Dirty Rock, and much more. But the 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:09.040 thing that kind of propelled him into big time Hollywood 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:17.400 he was the writer. He was the creator, the brain 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:22.560 child behind the show. Everybody looked Frank, it's probably way 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:29.320 I still one of the best. He's done it all well, 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.839 I guess, except for starring in his own show, which 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:35.160 he does now our guests today gets to travel around 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:40.359 the world and eat amazing food. It is the job 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:45.960 that everyone in the world wants. Everyone on their deathbed. 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.239 When you asked them most one thing you wish you did, 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.880 they will inevitably say, I wish I traveled more, I 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:56.240 wish I experienced more things. And literally, Netflix is paying 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.440 this guy to live all of our dreams. The star 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:03.600 of the Hitch Show on Netflix, Somebody Feed Phil, is 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.639 our guest today on The Wells Cast. I'm telling you, guys, 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:10.280 he's one of the nicest, sweetest and funniest dudes you 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:14.840 will ever meet. This is an episode I promise you 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:27.760 are not going to want to miss. All Right, back 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:31.639 on the Wells Cast, very excited to have a man 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:35.000 who literally has done everything but now gets to do 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:41.920 the greatest thing. Phil Rosenthal of Somebody Feed Phil, Yes, exactly, 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.920 said nobody ever. Oh no, it's gonna be happening a 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.360 lot more. You're gonna see after this thing takes off. Wait, 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.040 just you wait. You know, I come from the reality 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:56.000 TV world, and I've pitched shows left and right, and 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:02.360 I think that after Bourdain passed, everybody wanted that gig 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.760 and I feel like you're the one guy who got 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:11.200 the greatest reality TV gig ever with somebody feed Phil. 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.800 How did this come about? You're right, that is the 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:17.359 greatest gig ever. I was doing it while Bourdain was 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.640 with us, but I will say this, he was the 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:24.480 number one influence, right. I mean everyone who travels or eats, 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.599 not just on TV but in life owes a debt 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.640 to Mr Bourdaine. Here's how I sold the show, by 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:33.840 the way, with one line, I said, I'm exactly like 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:38.280 Anthony Bourdain if he was afraid of everything, and and 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.640 I've been wanting to do this show for a long time. 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.840 When I was doing Everybody Loves Raymond, we did an 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:49.760 episode where, uh, we went to Italy and ray did 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:53.240 not want to go. That was actually the impetus for 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.159 the episode was I asked him where he was going 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.200 to go on its vacation in between seasons the first year, 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.200 and he said, oh, I go to the Jersey or 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.320 And I said, well, that's nice. Have you ever been 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.160 in Europe? And he goes no, I said, why not? 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.200 He goes on, I'm not really interested in other cultures. 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:11.400 So that's when I thought we gotta do that show 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.600 where we go to Italy, his own culture that he's 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:18.240 not interested, and we send him over there with that 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.680 attitude of I'm not really interested, and we send him 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:26.839 back as me, someone excited about traveling and especially Italy. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.120 I mean, come on. So I write the episode about 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.080 Ray the character getting awoke, okay, when he goes to Italy. 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.840 And what happened was that thing that I wrote for 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.719 the character where he gets it. I saw Ray Romano 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.240 get it when we were over there. He was like, 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.160 oh my god, Philip, you tried this gelato, It's unbelievable. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.599 Have you tried the pizza? Oh my god, the pasta's crazy. 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.479 I'm like, yeah, that's why we go what I had 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:57.400 no idea. So now he's changed, and I thought, this 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.240 is amazing. I love doing this. I love turning. I 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.560 would dare say, that's why you do what you do. 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:07.000 You like turning people onto stuff you like, right, And 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.719 so that's that. That feeling got in really deep with me, 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:12.840 and I thought, wouldn't it be great to do this 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:16.159 for everybody? And so since then, and I'm talking about 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:21.600 twenty years ago, I had that experience with Ray, and 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.440 ever since then, I wanted to do this show Raymond 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:29.359 ended five years after that, and from that time it 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.680 took me ten years to get the show. So it 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.920 wasn't just like I can do whatever I want, Hey, 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.080 I'd like to do a food and travel show. No, 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.960 it took ten years of really trying to sell this 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.960 idea to people, because they don't just hand these out 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.359 shows like this, and I had to convince them. I 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:52.200 made little tapes, I made little you know, videos and stuff. 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:56.120 It took a long time. Is was it worth it? Yes? 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.520 Yes it was really. So did you go film essentially 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:04.279 a pilot episode to pitch two different networks? There were 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:08.320 things like I got asked by American Express once I 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.840 was putting it out there that I that I wanted 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.560 to do this. They said, well, we saw you in 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.560 this movie. I did a movie called Exporting Raymond where 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.400 I went to Russia and because they wanted me to 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.640 help them make Raymond over there, they wanted to make 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:27.840 Everybody Loves Kostia, and so that movie is a documentary 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.480 about me going over there and trying to help them 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:34.360 do a sitgun which they don't usually do. And so 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.960 that was that was my first time on camera. So 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.040 American Express when they heard I wanted to do something 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.360 in the food and travel space. They said, hey, do 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.120 do this thing for us, for our you know, platinum 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.600 card members or whatever. Go to London with a famous 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.320 chef and we'll film it for a week and we'll 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.400 have these snippets too, you know, we'll have this film 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.960 to show our card members and have a dinner around there. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.920 Something something for rich people. But this was going to 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.680 be the pilot for a show that they were gonna sponsor. No, 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:10.280 they just wanted these clips for rich people. But what 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.320 I did was I made my own clips of that 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.040 and that was my kind of audition. That was my 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.760 kind of pilot, right, And I went all over town 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.640 trying to sell it. And it wasn't until PBS said, 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.280 we've been looking for a food and travel show with 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:29.640 humor for a long time. And I called my brother, 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:33.800 who's a producer for other TV shows and commercials. I said, 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.080 I got this, I got this job. He goes what 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.480 I said, PBS is gonna give me six episodes on 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.760 the air where I go around the world and try 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:44.760 to get you to travel by showing you the best 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.600 places to eat. And he said, really, they've given you 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.080 that show. I said, yeah, because what are. They're gonna 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.760 call the show the Lucky Bastard and I said, quit 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.920 your job, Richard and produced the show with me, and 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:01.120 we'll call our production company lucky Bastards. That's what it is. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.280 That's what it is. And that show was called I'll 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.720 Have What Phills Having? I'll Have What Phils Having? You 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:11.000 can see that on iTunes now or Amazon Prime. And 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:15.480 then Netflix saw it and they said come to Netflix 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.640 and do uh do you have to change the title? 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:22.160 I said, all right, So I changed it to somebody Phil. 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.600 I got Lake Street Dive to do a new theme song, 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.440 which was nominated for a naming the theme song. Very 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.520 proud of that. I wrote down some lyrics and I 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.440 sent it to them. I knew the band, and they 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.760 expanded on the lyrics and change them a little bit 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.720 and made that tune, which is like the most danceable 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.440 theme song. It's so good. I'm so proud of it, 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.640 and I'm proud of them so great. It's probably the 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.760 show's success is the theme song. But when you look 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.640 at like some of the great shows of all time, 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:55.120 the theme song is definitely iconic. Seinfeld with the bass, 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.520 you know friends obviously, yeah, and I didn't know it's 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.120 Lake Street. I love those guys that that's amazing. I 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.960 would tell everybody if you if this is the first 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.560 time you're hearing that name, go on Spotify, go on iTunes, 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.559 and just download some of their records because that they 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:13.120 are fantastic. So you guys are in your fourth season 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:18.720 of Somebody Feed Phil. It did Hawaii, Rio de Janeiro, 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.000 San Francisco, Singapore, and the Mississippi Delta, which I love. 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:23.719 By the way, I'm from California, but I went to 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:25.840 school of Mississippi, so I used to go down to 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:27.840 the Delta a lot with some of my friends and 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.960 see where they grew up. I'm so glad. Did you 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:32.640 go to some of the places that that are in 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.880 the show? Not where you went, but I've been all around, 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:39.560 you know, in Greenwood and Rosedale and Cleveland, all those 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:43.320 like Mississippi Delta towns. You didn't go to Doze Eat place. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.640 Funny you say that, because there's a Doze Eat place 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.400 where I went to college in Oxford, Mississippi. But it's 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.600 not I guess that's not the original one, which is 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.160 I didn't even know they were. There were multiple locations 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.240 or at least another one. I didn't even know that 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.200 until recently. When I was down there, I thought that 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.760 this wasn't one of kind. By the way it feels 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.040 one of a kind. I must that that is the 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.400 original and it is spectacular. It's one of the best 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.679 steakhouses in the world, don't you think. Oh yeah, for 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.560 this most recent season, did you have a favorite locale 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.400 that was one of them? Mississippi Delta. Because it was 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.280 such a surprise, I thought, listen, I'm a nice Jewish 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.800 boy from New York. I don't go to the Mississippi Delta. 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.880 It's like for me, it was like going into deliverance. 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:26.760 I didn't know how they would take to me, right, 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.240 I thought. I thought I was gonna just going to 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:33.720 be honest. What's presented on TV and the media, it's 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.880 like redneck centrol. Right. I didn't know where I was 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.200 going and how it would be treated. And you see 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:47.040 the show the sweetest, nicest, greatest people, so inviting, so warm. 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.040 Was that your experience when you went to school there? 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:53.400 Obviously there's some history that's kind of hard to get around. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.679 For the most part, everyone was super nice, super hospitable. 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.160 I was from California. I was one of the first 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.800 people from California to go to Old miss They called 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.160 me a Yankee, and I was like, you guys are 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.160 very you have no idea what maps look like. I 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.960 am the I'm actually further from a Yankee than you are, 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.360 to be fair. But no, I loved it, and I 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:16.360 did love you know, the Delta. I have an emphasis 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:20.360 in blues anthropology, and so I would sit in the 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.040 mezzanine in our library and I would listen to old 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:26.360 blues records, records that don't even exist anymore. And then 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.000 we would go down to the Delta and and we'd 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:34.400 go to these juke joints and watch these old timers 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:41.240 play absolutely amazing blues music in these ramshackle, pre Civil 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.480 War era jew joints. If you had a chance to 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.240 go back, you should go to a place called Poe Monkeys. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:51.360 It's in Marigold, Mississippi, and it's one of the coolest 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:55.120 pieces of Americana left in the world. You'd love it. 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.320 I'm glad that you have a good experience down there 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.719 as well. It was wonderful and I would surprised at 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.800 like the modernity of the food as well. Yes, you 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.600 have your greatest hits, your your fried chicken and ribs 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:11.160 and all that great soul food, and I had like 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:15.440 stuff like chicken fried lobster tail, which when it comes 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.440 to the table, you're like, really, people, do we have 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:21.800 to chicken fry everything? Yes, you know, can't. Can't we 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.400 just have a steam blobster. No. What I realized was 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.960 when you chicken fry that lobster tail as well, you 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.960 get that amazing seasoning that batter, but it steams the 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.959 lobster meat in the shell surrounded by the batter, so 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:38.120 you actually get the perfect steam on it. It's so 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.480 tender and so juicy and has the flavor from the batter. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.720 That's one of the best lobsters. Like, right, how hands 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.040 on are you with the production of the show the 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.040 bits in between where you're going, are you able to 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:53.679 see like how listen, guys don't want to do that? 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.240 Or are you like that would be funny, let's do it. Well, 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.480 since it's my brother producing. If it was my brother 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.719 he before with me left and right. That's why I 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.600 asked the question, then you already have the answer because 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:08.760 that's exactly what happens. And he'll say, for instance, we're 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.560 in Vietnam, and they say, Okay, tomorrow, you're getting up 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.000 at four in the morning and we're gonna go to 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.000 this island in the middle of the river and in 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.560 the middle of the islands a swamp lake, and you're 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.480 gonna go in there and hip waiters and you're gonna 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.760 pick lotus roots with the family and and pick snails 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.720 out of the thing. I'm like, you lost me at 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:31.600 four a m I'm not doing that. Nobody needs to 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.880 see that. Oh, it's not fun for me, and and 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.560 it's not fun for the people watching because you're doing it. 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.720 I'm like, I'm not doing it. I don't want to 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.080 do it. I'm old, and I'm not going in some 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.400 lake that I don't know what's in there. Sure enough, 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.120 I did it, and it was one of the great 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:49.400 experiences of my life because it was first of all funny. 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.120 Second of all, the family, the family, the family. It's 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.480 always about the people you meet right in the experience. 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.600 And it was gorgeous because I was there, why before 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.920 before before sunru and I've got to see the sunrise 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.200 over this thing. And if you see that sequence, it's 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:09.920 kind of spectacular. And he was right. Don't tell him 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:14.440 that he was right, But the time he's right because 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.720 he knows me, and he knows it will be first 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:20.080 of all funny and second of all worth doing because 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.840 I'm stepping out of my comfort zone, which is all 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.960 I want people to do. You know, this show is 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.960 for people who don't travel. Not two thirds of us 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.440 don't have a passport in America. So if I'm trying 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.080 to get you to travel, I'm starting with what I 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.360 think our Earth's greatest hits, the stuff that's going to 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.480 be accessible where a lot of people speak English there. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.480 And there's gonna be a hotel. You don't have to 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.560 sleep in a tree, right, There's gonna be restaurants with 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:48.880 food that you recognize, right, and and yet once you're there, 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.720 you might be tempted to try something new. So that's why. 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.920 So if you see me going out of my comfort zone, 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.160 if you just see I think if people say, if 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.240 that Puts can go outside, make I can't too write 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:03.720 I love that man, and I do. I love to 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.680 travel as well, and I like to do weird and 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.760 eat weird stuff. I'm definitely like a when in Rome 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.560 type of guy. But I guess I have my limits. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:16.920 I heard that you don't eat before you film. You 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:18.840 know how they make a dog fruit commercial. They don't 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.840 think the dog un told the commercial, so the dog 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.280 looks excited to eat. That makes practical sense, doesn't it. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.520 If I went to Vietnam and they said, here's this 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.400 guy makes this dish. He's been doing it for sixty years, 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.880 and here it is, and I went, it's all right, 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.400 that's not a good show, is it. Now? I'm not acting. 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:41.080 I really do feel excited, but I'm extra excited maybe 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.000 because what you see me eating in each scene is 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.000 probably the first thing I ate that day. Yeah right, 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.520 So it looks like I'm a pig and I eat NonStop. 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:53.200 But you're seeing a week's worth of filming condensed into 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.880 an hour, and that those scenes there's maybe one or 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.080 two of them a day. So that's it. And and 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.520 I learned, by the way, from doing that American Express 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.520 thing in London. They booked us on that gig. They 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:09.879 booked us into twenty seven restaurants in seven days, and 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.800 because I was with a famous chef, they were all 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:17.760 like white tablecloth, fancy meals. So when the food was coming, 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.760 I was like, oh no, like I have to eat again. 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.800 You don't want that. You want to go oh yeah, 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.679 not oh no, So that I learned that you you 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.720 pace yourself, you don't finish anything. First of all, I 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:37.000 have a crew there who's looking at me like this, uh, 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:38.960 you know, while I'm eating, so it would be cruel 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:40.679 not to share it with them. I love sharing it 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.400 with them because it's fun to see their faces light up. 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.960 And what that also does is it saves my belly 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.760 for the next thing I'm gonna taste, right, So I 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.000 want to taste as many things as possible because you 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:54.880 never know where that home run is gonna be. Right. 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:58.360 Somebody said it looks like Phil likes everything. It does 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.199 mean not like in it. Yeah, you don't see that, 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.520 then it shows if I don't like it, it's not 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.840 in the show. I'm trying to get you to travel. 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.639 I'm trying to show you the best stuff. There's no 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.800 reason to show you the stuff that's just okay, we're bad, 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:16.520 right If it's really bad, like the thousand year old 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.119 egg I ate in Hong Kong, which almost killed me, 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.760 then you hear my brother laughing on the other side 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:23.639 of the camera. We leave that in. It's funny that 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:27.960 I almost died. Do you have any limits if it's 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:32.320 so disgusting, And by disgusting, everybody has their line for disgusting, right, 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:37.360 So I think I'm like most Americans who don't want 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:41.440 to eat bugs and snakes. I think that's fair to say, right, 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.640 And that's an American thing. In other cultures and other countries, 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:47.879 you know, they do that. My friend told me he 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.719 was the guest of honor at a in a rural 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.480 dinner in China, and because he was the guest of 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.919 honor the American, they brought over a poisonous snake to 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:02.080 the table live and held it off next to him 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.760 and took out a knife and cut open the snake 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.800 while it's alone, pulled out the gall bladder of the 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.960 poisonous snake and squeeze the gall bladder into a glass, 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:15.399 and gave it to him to drink as the guest 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:20.200 of honor, to which I say, please don't honor me, 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.720 because I would faint in that situation. I would faint. 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:26.480 First of all, I would run screaming out of the 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:30.720 restaurant at the side of the live snake. Second, cutting 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:34.560 it open, faint. Third, squeeze the gal about a fat 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.800 give me the glass faint. I would never recover from this, 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.920 I asked my friend, So, so why didn't you just say, 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.160 you know, I physically can't. I'm gonna be he goes. 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:48.560 That would have been the greatest insult to them, because 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.600 they were doing this special for me I had to do, 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:55.600 I said, and he goes, I drank it, and I 0:19:55.640 --> 0:20:02.920 go and he goes. It was much grosser than you think. Well, 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.760 then that is off the charts gross because I'm thinking 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.639 it's going to be really gross because you know what 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:12.760 the worst part was. It was warm. Of course, of 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:16.600 course it's warm. It's really so I see your face. 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.720 I know. So these are things that most people from 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:23.600 America wouldn't do, but in another land and another culture. 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:27.600 I'm not disparaging them at all. That is their thing. 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:31.480 That is like the height of I don't know, virility, honor. 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:34.200 For you to have that very special thing. I don't 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:36.280 know what I would do in that situation, other than 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.840 not get myself into that situation right so that I 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:42.480 don't have to insult anybody, because that's the last thing 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:46.000 I want to do. I have tried a bug or 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:50.000 two in the show. When pushed right, I've gone a 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.240 little out of my comfort zone. And I can tell 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.280 you that I'm eaten an ant or two write because 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:58.280 it's been served to me this way. This one Japanese 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.760 chef said, try this and it tastes like lemon, to 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.119 which I said, in that case, could I please have lemon? 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.359 And he said, I want you to try this ant. 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:12.960 And because the person I was with, this nice lady, 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.240 did it, I mustered up all my courage to take 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:19.080 that ant and put it in my mouth. With all 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:21.960 the courage I could muster bite down on that and 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:25.840 then damn if it didn't taste like lemon. And so 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:29.560 now the questions, okay, chef, what did you do based 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:31.399 this in lemon so that it tastes like me? Just 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:37.560 know these ants, not every ant, these particular ants from 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:43.159 this particular part of this forest in Japan tastes like lemon. 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:45.159 I don't know who was the first guy to discover that, 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.840 but but that was interesting and it didn't kill me, 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:49.280 and it was something cool. And I have a story 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:53.080 to tell you, right, the gallbladder story. There's a part 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:55.920 of me that thinks that they're like, hey, here comes 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:59.880 a stupid American. Let's let's just see if he'll do it. Nope, 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.679 I know that's what it must feel like, like a prank, 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:08.359 but a really that you know. Again, we can't disparage. 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:14.720 We can't. We can't say or judge because the cultures 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:16.960 are different and we we the whole point of the 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:20.359 show is to be more accepting and understand. There's just 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.720 things that I know that I'm a woss and I'm 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:27.520 not doing. Um. I mean, you've been all over Where 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:29.760 are places that you've kind of pinned on the map 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:32.639 that you want to go for future seasons? Oh? I haven't, 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.600 you know, I haven't scratched the surface of the earth. Right, 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:38.760