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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks.

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Speaker 3: That is something that has been said Bucky one thousand times,

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Speaker 3: my friend, the thousandth episode to Move the Sticks.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, man, man, I'm great. How about that?

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Speaker 4: You think about the accomplishing the milestones in this business,

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Speaker 4: to be able to get to a thousand podcast episodes

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Speaker 3: No, no doubt, man. That's why it was worth us

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Speaker 3: coming in studio together. We don't get to do this

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Speaker 3: very often. We do it more in the spring as

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Speaker 3: we're doing draft shows and everything. Yeah, but this was

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Speaker 3: a big enough one we had to come in get

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Speaker 3: a chance to be around each other. Look, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: have a fun episode today. We're gonna go down memory lane.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna play some clips from the past. We have

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Speaker 3: some surprises I guess we are not aware of that

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Speaker 3: We're gonna send out some thank yous to everybody who's

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Speaker 3: helped make this whole thing possible since twenty fourteen. This

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Speaker 3: first episode of this podcast was umber of twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 3: So it's been it's been quite a ride. And I

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Speaker 3: got to say, just at the very top, I'm not

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Speaker 3: to come I always think about this, if you had

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Speaker 3: to come back to us.

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Speaker 2: When we were saying we're at Count Burke on a

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Speaker 2: morning practice, what is a podcast, we wouldn't. Yeah, that

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Speaker 4: We're leaving chasing certain dreams that we both had and

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Speaker 4: being general managers and those things. Now we're going to

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Speaker 4: work on the media side, and we're gonna become media

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Speaker 4: scaluts and talk about the game and players and all

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Speaker 4: this other stuff. And we're gonna do it for public consumption. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: to think that we would be at this point right now,

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Speaker 4: it's kind of crazy. But it has certainly worked out,

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Speaker 4: worked out well. It's been a lot of fun. I

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Speaker 4: think you and I have grown closer throughout this experience,

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Speaker 4: being able to finish each other's sentences, being able to

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Speaker 4: It's really been a fun experience. And then all the

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Speaker 4: people that we've kind to met along the way, those

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Speaker 4: those people, and so it's been a great ride. But

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Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to not only like celebrating the one

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, and think about it again, this

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Speaker 3: us and see the videos on social media, YouTube and

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Speaker 3: all the different channels of where we have this show,

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Speaker 3: we're trying to just learn and hopefully you can learn

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Speaker 3: a little something along with us. So that's fun. That's

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Speaker 3: been the goal here all along. All right, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: jump into this right now. I'm being told by Nabiel

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Speaker 3: that we have a surprise video here. Oh to a

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Speaker 2: What we got.

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Speaker 5: When I first started in the NFL, I received some

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Speaker 5: whys advice from an old scout. He said, those who

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Speaker 5: to scout out, and those who cannot scout start a

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Speaker 5: podcast something about scouting. Now, Luckily that statement does not

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Speaker 5: apply to you too. You both that decorated playing careers

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Speaker 5: and NFL scouting careers. You both do a tremendous job

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Speaker 5: educating and entertaining football fans around the world. So congratulations

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Speaker 5: of one thousand episodes and I'm looking forward to one

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Speaker 2: This is Joe Douglas with the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks on their thousandth episode.

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Speaker 4: It's always good to see two former road Dog college

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Speaker 2: Congratulations guys, DJ and Bucky.

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Speaker 6: Congratulations on your one thousandth episode. That is really cool.

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Speaker 6: Not many people get to hang around that long, so

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Speaker 6: you guys are obviously doing something right now. I wanted

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Speaker 6: but Bucky, You're always welcome back in chap Hill and

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Speaker 6: I'll always be on your show. So congratulations, guys, you've

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Speaker 7: Hey boy, just wanted to say congratulations to you and

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Speaker 7: DJ for your continued success in your thousand episode.

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Speaker 8: Congratulations in DJ for one thousand episodes, all right, DJ, Bucky,

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Speaker 8: what an accomplishment, A milestone episode. All right, let's not

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Speaker 8: forget why it exists in the first place.

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Speaker 2: That would be no Move the Sticks.

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Speaker 9: If I was.

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Speaker 8: Better at my job, If I were better, Bucky and

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Speaker 8: I would be celebrating the draft track of podcast ten

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Speaker 8: and just hey lit in, So hence the celebration for

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Speaker 8: you too, Well enjoy it because I won't.

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Speaker 1: So DJ and Bucky one thousand episodes of Move the Sticks.

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Speaker 1: You're valued.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you guys are one percent.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be making these quarterback salaries getting to one

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Speaker 1: We may do like a thousand yards worth of work, but.

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Speaker 2: A thousand episodes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we could treat it like running backs

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Speaker 1: do by the time we get there. But seriously, congrats

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Speaker 1: fellas well done. Love you guys. Keep on killing it.

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Speaker 1: You guys are serving the people and doing it right,

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Speaker 11: Hey, congratulations, What you've accomplished speaks volumes about your desire

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Speaker 11: and work ethic. What a tremendous accomplishment by you two guys.

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Speaker 11: Your love of the greatest game in the USA comes through.

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Speaker 11: Don't let that plane ever ever die. We're should do

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Speaker 11: nothing but contingent success.

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Speaker 2: Hi to Tom Coughlin.

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Speaker 11: I want to congratulate DJ and Bucky on the thousandth

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Speaker 12: So Nobil asked me to send a congratulatory.

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Speaker 2: Video to you guys for the.

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Speaker 8: One thousandth episode.

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Speaker 12: But I've been on like three hundred of the Why

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Speaker 12: Whatever, All right, kidding, obviously, it's been a blast to

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Speaker 12: be a small part of this immense success that moved

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Speaker 3: Ah, that is awesome. Hey, well done back there, So Bill,

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Speaker 2: Good job if you did about that.

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Speaker 3: If you're listening and didn't recognize a couple of those voices,

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Speaker 3: and that was Tom Telesca the GM and the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: That with Joe Douglas from the Jets, BUCkies coach, Mac Brown,

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Speaker 3: Ours, Ron Wolf, Hall of Famer Ron Wolf who's been

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Speaker 2: No, it's so great, man.

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Speaker 4: It's so great that they took the time to kind

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Speaker 13: A bal congratulations to Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks on

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Speaker 13: the one thousandth episode of Move the Sticks.

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Speaker 10: We are all huge fans.

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Speaker 14: We were asked by management to send this message, but

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Speaker 14: Daniel Bucky, excellent work. Here's to another fourteen years of

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Speaker 2: That'll be great. The feud is alive. It's a it's alive.

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Speaker 3: And once they start release in their podcasts in America

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Speaker 3: We're gonna go through and we're gonna go through history

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Speaker 3: that talent with being just a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit more safe?

446
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Speaker 3: With the football, if teams talk to you about that

447
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Speaker 3: or what's your own assessment of it.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean, just know wing the NFL game is

449
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Speaker 17: a little bit is different than the Big twelve. I

450
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Speaker 17: mean Big twelve you have to score almost every drive

451
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Speaker 17: in order to win the game, where in the NFL

452
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Speaker 17: you you can win score fourteen points and win games.

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Speaker 17: I mean that wasn't really heard of in the Big

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Speaker 17: Big twelve. Nah. Yeah, so I mean, I mean college

455
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Speaker 17: football really in general. But yeah, I mean it's something

456
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Speaker 17: where I'm gonna have to learn to take a little

457
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Speaker 17: bit less risk at the same time, keep that mentality,

458
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Speaker 17: keep that mentality. I want to move the ball. I

459
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Speaker 17: want to score every drive, but if something happens with

460
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Speaker 17: thirty and fifteen, they might be nicer is to get

461
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Speaker 17: nice eighty to nine yards, put the ball and flip

462
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Speaker 17: the field and that stuff that you just have to

463
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Speaker 17: learn with process and with time in the NFL.

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Speaker 9: But you're a gunslinger.

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Speaker 2: How hard is it for you to concede that.

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Speaker 4: The defense may win on a down and say, hey,

467
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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna dump into the back. How hard is

468
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Speaker 4: that for someone who has so much talent, so much

469
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Speaker 4: arm talent, to say, hey, sometimes they win.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna be okay, I'm gonna do it the right way.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean it's something I'm gonna have to learn

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Speaker 17: as I go. I mean at that when I'm young,

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Speaker 17: I might make a couple more. I mean, I think

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Speaker 17: you see a lot with Matthew Stafford. I feel like

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Speaker 17: when Matthew Stafford, he was kind of a gunslinger when

476
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Speaker 17: he first came out. He would always try to take

477
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Speaker 17: those chances. But as he's kind of settled his game

478
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Speaker 17: down a lot, he can see he was almost MVP

479
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Speaker 17: caliber season this last year. So I mean he's kind

480
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Speaker 17: of settled down, and with Tom he's learned when to

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Speaker 17: make those throws and when not to.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you said Stafford, because I have that down

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Speaker 3: in my notes and just some of the plays and

484
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Speaker 3: some of the throws I see you make. It's uncanny

485
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Speaker 3: how much it reminds me of Matthew Stafford. So when

486
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Speaker 3: you study his game and see some of the different

487
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Speaker 3: things he can do, have you ever adopted anythink, especially

488
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Speaker 3: right here watching him throw across his body right there.

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Speaker 3: I mean we always say like no, no, no, no, no, oh, okay, okay,

490
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Speaker 3: you got to have a big time armor to make

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Speaker 3: some of those throws. But when you watch, when you

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Speaker 3: watch Stafford, do you see a little bit of yourself there?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, Definitely the arm talent of being able to switch

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Speaker 17: your positions depending on where you need to make the

495
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Speaker 17: throw and what lane you have to throw it in.

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Speaker 17: And then definitely just always keeping your eyes down field.

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Speaker 17: That's the biggest thing to me. I'm not the fastest guy,

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Speaker 17: so while for me and why would I run? Why

499
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Speaker 17: would I put it in the hands of the fast receivers.

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Speaker 17: Let the playmakers make the place.

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Speaker 4: You know, Honny, you guys talked about Matthew Stafford. I

502
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Speaker 4: compared you to a little bit of Ja Color because

503
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Speaker 4: Jay Color at Vanderbilt had a similar situation where he

504
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Speaker 4: had to put everything on him and he was a

505
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Speaker 4: gun slinger and it's always been a challenge for him

506
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Speaker 4: to learn how to tone it down so he could

507
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Speaker 4: play winning football. When you look at Jay Color, do

508
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Speaker 4: you see any similarities in terms of the way that

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Speaker 4: you play or the talent that you guys have.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean definitely. I mean his his arm strength

511
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Speaker 17: is something that I mean that I try to get to.

512
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Speaker 17: I mean, he's a guy who can sling the ball.

513
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Speaker 17: I've watched him play, but at the same time, he's

514
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Speaker 17: he's had some success in the NFL. It's just he's

515
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Speaker 17: got a he hadn't figured it out all the way.

516
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Speaker 17: But I mean, you see guys like that. I mean,

517
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Speaker 17: just the hardy passion he's playing with right there. I mean,

518
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Speaker 17: you want to you want to go out there and

519
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Speaker 17: throw balls everywhere and throw touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: What about your comparison you have, Like we talked about

521
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Speaker 3: what we kind of see in your play a little bit,

522
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Speaker 3: what do you see in yourself or what are you

523
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Speaker 3: trying to strive to be?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well the guy I try to describe to be.

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Speaker 17: I mean it's for sure Aaron Rodgers. I watch a

526
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Speaker 17: lot of his film, how quick his release is, how

527
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Speaker 17: he extends plays but still gets back to platform and

528
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Speaker 17: fundamentally sounds makes throws. That's what I'm trying to get to, cause,

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Speaker 17: I mean he does extend plays and make crazy throws,

530
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Speaker 17: but you want to see him get he gets back

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Speaker 17: to those fundamental sounds outside the pocket, no question.

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Speaker 4: I think the big thing with Aaron Rodgers when you

533
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Speaker 4: look at him, is he has the ability to play

534
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Speaker 4: off platform, but he also can play a very discipline

535
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Speaker 4: and detailed style of ball, which would be the challenge

536
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Speaker 4: when you look at the way that he operates, his

537
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Speaker 4: mechanics and his footwork hasn't been anything that you've been

538
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Speaker 4: able to glean from just watching him where he say,

539
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Speaker 4: you know what, I can take to my footwork, and

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Speaker 4: I think I can play in that manner.

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Speaker 17: I mean, yeah, you said it. I mean he does

542
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Speaker 17: the extend to play stuff. He can do that stuff

543
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Speaker 17: and kill you there. But if you want to let

544
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Speaker 17: him put him in the pocket, hold him in the pocket,

545
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Speaker 17: he can deadly accurate and can kill you that that

546
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Speaker 17: way as well. I think you saw the Cowboys this

547
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Speaker 17: last year. I mean he tore them up from the pocket,

548
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Speaker 17: just picking him apart and making throws. And that's just

549
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Speaker 17: for the fundamentals and really working on his game. And

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Speaker 17: I feel like I saw something I'm trying to do

551
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Speaker 17: and trying to get.

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Speaker 3: To one of the things I want to do. When

553
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Speaker 3: you were coming into that, I want to refresh myself

554
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Speaker 3: a little bit. It's been a while since I watch it,

555
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Speaker 3: so I hadn't seen the TCU game, so I popped

556
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Speaker 3: that on and watched it. I want to check test

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Speaker 3: your recall a little bit here late in that game.

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Speaker 3: I want to say a little bit over a minute

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Speaker 3: left in the game. You guys are down seven. You

560
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Speaker 3: need to touch on you guys. You lead a nice

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Speaker 3: drive right down the field. What was a touchdown pass

562
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Speaker 3: that you hit?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 17: I hit a We caught coke La lock. It's a

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Speaker 17: little pop play. And then we have a first reads

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Speaker 17: a little like pop by the wide receiver, and then

567
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Speaker 17: the Z has an under delay under coming behind him.

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Speaker 2: Not throw it to the under you got him, and

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Speaker 2: it got a touchdown and they going over this. It

570
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Speaker 2: was a great game. I didn'tink it was ever gonna end.

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Speaker 3: So we ended up going two overtimes, right, So then

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Speaker 3: you go when you take off, describe the play where

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Speaker 3: you had the touchdown run there and over time.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, So we had a pass play called I went

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Speaker 17: through my first my second read, and I just saw

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Speaker 17: them all opened up that they were kind of like

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Speaker 17: a two man type thing. So they were kind of

578
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Speaker 17: all following their guys and he gets two man the

579
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Speaker 17: run with the quarterbacks deadly, and so I just took

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Speaker 17: off trying to get the first down. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 17: I was like, man, you can get to the end

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Speaker 17: zone there.

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Speaker 9: I loved it.

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Speaker 2: It was a good tape.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 3: How about that? That was the moment that was the

587
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Speaker 3: light bulb coming on and we said it. We walked

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Speaker 3: out of that studio. I remember it. We walked out

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Speaker 3: of that studio and said, I wish we weren't to

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Speaker 3: the end of the process because I would adjust this

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Speaker 3: just off of that conversation. Might have how smart that

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Speaker 3: dude was. And you know, and I've heard this, you know,

593
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Speaker 3: over the years times and I hear something different every time.

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Speaker 3: We always talked about the recall was awesome.

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Speaker 9: You know what?

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Speaker 2: What else struck me? Buck?

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Speaker 3: I probably was a little more pushy and kind of

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Speaker 3: like challenged him a little bit, critiqued him a little bit.

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Speaker 3: He didn't he didn't, didn't nothing, nothing. He was just like, no, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna work on this. I'm gonna work on that.

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Speaker 3: Like that. That was impressive. Yeah, you talked about that.

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Speaker 4: Part of it was the intelligence that he displayed, just

603
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Speaker 4: the instincts and being able to We're big on this,

604
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Speaker 4: like people that can walk you through their process, walk

605
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Speaker 4: you through certain moments. His ability to recall those games

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Speaker 4: that you alluded to, those plays that you alluded to

607
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Speaker 4: to me, that's next level stuff. That's the stuff that

608
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Speaker 4: you see. Kobe and Lebron always talk about those things.

609
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Speaker 4: So Pat Mahomes was able to do that. And I

610
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Speaker 4: just think his maturity, the maturity that he's played there.

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Speaker 4: You talk about the hard questions but not really flinching

612
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Speaker 4: or bowing up. Just okay, cool, I understand where you

613
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Speaker 4: can see that, But here's how I'm going to get

614
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Speaker 4: better and also annoying with enough humility. The pro game

615
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Speaker 4: is different than the college game, so I know I

616
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Speaker 4: have to value the ball more and do all those things.

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Speaker 4: He alluded to all of that in that conversation.

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Speaker 3: Golly, we both look so young too, man, Freshy podcast

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Speaker 3: was so hard on somebody.

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Speaker 9: Our glasses all the time.

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Speaker 2: No, man, all right, that was our longest cut.

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Speaker 3: We've got a bunch more. We're gonna get through. There'll

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Speaker 3: be smaller clips here about some of our favorites. The

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Speaker 3: next one up is is actually Sauce Gardner. You had

625
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Speaker 3: a chance to visit with him at the Combine and

626
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Speaker 3: talk to him about his nickname.

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Speaker 2: Were gonna get right to it. We're gonna get right

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Speaker 2: to it because the nickname is so nice.

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Speaker 9: I have to know where did the nickname come man

630
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Speaker 9: lit league man when I was six years old.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Coast tens Man.

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Speaker 4: He gave it to me when I was playing Lily

633
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Speaker 4: football Man.

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Speaker 2: It's just stuck with me all the way.

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Speaker 9: So what were you doing at six years old to

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Speaker 9: get a nickname? Sauce?

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Speaker 2: He just told me he's seeing a vision that he

638
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Speaker 2: don't think I seen, but man, I had.

639
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Speaker 9: I had the.

640
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Speaker 2: Moves man, I was playing running back.

641
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Speaker 9: I was saucy with.

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Speaker 2: The Duke moves. That's the hard hitting journalism you get on.

643
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Speaker 9: This short hit.

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Speaker 4: That's one of the fun things about our job and

645
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Speaker 4: who we encounter. To be able to talk to Sauce

646
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Speaker 4: before he makes his way into the Nation Football League

647
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Speaker 4: and to know that he's the same guy, the same

648
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Speaker 4: guy that you getting. Those interviews are the same ones

649
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Speaker 4: that we've seen, the same one we saw behind the

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Speaker 4: scenes when it came to Hard Knocks.

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Speaker 9: That's who he is.

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Speaker 4: But I love the fact that it's six years old

653
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Speaker 4: he had a nickname Sauce because he was so saucy.

654
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Speaker 9: With his movement.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, get a chance to learn about prospects on this

656
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Speaker 3: show and what the origin of a cool nickname is

657
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Speaker 3: all right, next one here, this is Mike Vick. Get

658
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Speaker 3: a chance to visit with Michael Vick. And this was

659
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Speaker 3: talking about Lamar Jackson and how he would be as

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Speaker 3: a quarterback. I think I know your answer, and you're

661
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Speaker 3: going to be in agreement with the two guys you're

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Speaker 3: talking to here. But this kid is a He's a quarterback, correct, Michael, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's a quarterback.

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Speaker 18: I haven't been hearing about things been thrown out there

665
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Speaker 18: by him playing receiver. They'll probably say he needs to

666
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Speaker 18: play defensive back next. But listen, the kid is six ' three,

667
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Speaker 18: two hundred and fifteen pounds. I know the hash is

668
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Speaker 18: a why they're college football, so it creates a little

669
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Speaker 18: bit more space in terms of running with the football

670
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Speaker 18: and stretching.

671
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Speaker 10: The field, moving the pocket.

672
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Speaker 18: But for anybody to say that Lamar Jackson is a receiver,

673
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Speaker 18: I don't think they understand the quarterback position.

674
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Speaker 10: I don't think they appreciate the.

675
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Speaker 18: Value that can be brung from the quarterback position.

676
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Speaker 10: You know.

677
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Speaker 18: It was just kind of mind boggling to me to

678
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Speaker 18: hear that, And I can understand why those type of

679
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Speaker 18: things can be said because people don't know him they

680
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Speaker 18: haven't sat down with him in a film room, they

681
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 18: haven't talked to him and had discussions with them. They're

682
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Speaker 18: only going off what they hear. And you can't live

683
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Speaker 18: in this world going off what you hear. I know, perception,

684
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Speaker 18: you know outweighed reality pretty much. You know one hundred

685
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 18: percent of the time in this world that you got

686
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Speaker 18: to give the kid a chance.

687
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Speaker 10: He's a quarterback. Hands down.

688
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Speaker 18: If I was the GM, I would draft him. You know,

689
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Speaker 18: whether it's the first round or fourth round. You look

690
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 18: at all the quarterbacks coming out in the draft. They

691
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 18: all projects. Nobody's guaranteed to do anything.

692
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Speaker 2: Well, exclamation point on that one.

693
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Speaker 4: Of yours, MVP quickly in his career, Mike Vick being

694
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Speaker 4: able to point out Lamar Jackson really being able to

695
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Speaker 4: say and that later in the interview you talked about

696
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Speaker 4: this dude is way light years ahead of where I

697
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 4: was at the same time, because Michael Vick was a

698
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Speaker 4: player at Virginia Tech who was doing this on a

699
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 4: big stage, had the big national championship game against Florida State,

700
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 4: they kind of set him up. He saw those similar

701
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 4: traits and Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson validated those comments by

702
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Speaker 4: having an MVP season in which he was absolutely ridiculous

703
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Speaker 4: as a running through m Yeah.

704
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Speaker 3: No, it's again, I feel like, get a chance to

705
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: be ahead of the curve with some of people, get

706
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Speaker 3: to have on and have those conversations.

707
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Speaker 2: In terms of quarterbacks. I don't know.

708
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Speaker 3: Maybe I guess Tom Brady's in the discussion now at

709
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: the end of his career, but for a long time

710
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: it was this man all by himself and Joe Montana

711
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: as the greatest quarterback of all time. We had a

712
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Speaker 3: chance to visit with him talking about the traits that

713
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Speaker 3: all those great quarterbacks possess. Joe I did a projects

714
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Speaker 3: with the Ravens. We went back and we looked at

715
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Speaker 3: all the Hall of Fame quarterbacks and we're trying to find,

716
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Speaker 3: you know, what, what's the common trait that they possess

717
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: and all obviously, you know, all different sizes of arm strengths,

718
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: athletic ability. But the word that I came up with

719
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Speaker 3: just looking at all of them was just poise. And

720
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Speaker 3: we think of you, that's the first word that comes

721
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Speaker 3: to mind with just your poise?

722
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Speaker 10: How would you describe that? What that is? What what

723
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Speaker 10: poise is?

724
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Speaker 19: I think it's it's concentration, and it's preparation.

725
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Speaker 10: You know.

726
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Speaker 19: One of the things that build also strive was you know,

727
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 19: coming to work prepared every day, not Sunday, right, he

728
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 19: wants to see it every day. And and you know,

729
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 19: for us and back early on, we never.

730
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Speaker 10: Had the little earpieces.

731
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Speaker 19: So we would we had a lot of plays in

732
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Speaker 19: our offense, and we'd have one hundred and twenty some

733
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Speaker 19: passes in every game plan thirty five plus runs. Every

734
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Speaker 19: one of those had two three formations and you had

735
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Speaker 19: to memorize them all and you had to memorize what

736
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Speaker 19: order he wanted to be ma because we would get

737
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Speaker 19: signaled just to play and you had to know. And

738
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Speaker 19: so it took a lot of preparation every day all

739
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Speaker 19: the way. You know, even you know, all the way

740
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Speaker 19: till Friday night was a big, crazy preparation day for me.

741
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Speaker 10: And you know, it was so funny.

742
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Speaker 19: We went we lost in the championship game to the Redskins,

743
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Speaker 19: and we went to the Pro Bowl and Joe Thaisman

744
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 19: was there and first day Bill's coaching the team because

745
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Speaker 19: that's how that all worked back then and now, and

746
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Speaker 19: he puts in thirty five passes in day one, show

747
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Speaker 19: goes to me, he goes.

748
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Speaker 9: I go.

749
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Speaker 19: He goes to me, Wow, I can't believe he put

750
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Speaker 19: in all the past plays.

751
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Speaker 2: And one day I go, are you crazy?

752
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Speaker 19: Installed till Saturday he goes, He goes. I go, I'm

753
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Speaker 19: not even studying. There was nothing that comes to day

754
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Speaker 19: one day, once eighty or ninety. He goes, Man, you

755
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 19: can do all that. It's not even regularly. Just get

756
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 19: used to it after a while.

757
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Speaker 2: How cool is that?

758
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Speaker 9: Man?

759
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Speaker 3: I'm the fun thing about going on memory lane is

760
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Speaker 3: I again? I don't know if I'd written that down.

761
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Speaker 3: Poise equals concentration plus preparation.

762
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Speaker 2: That's awesome. No, it is awesome.

763
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Speaker 10: Now.

764
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Speaker 4: I remember from that interview he talked about like first class,

765
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Speaker 4: just how first class, how they operated, how they practiced

766
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: the standard head. They talked about the ball never hitting

767
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 4: the ground all certain days of the week, and how

768
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Speaker 4: you hold your team is accountable. When we have an

769
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Speaker 4: opportunity to bring on those special guests, get those guests

770
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Speaker 4: who not only a gold jacket guys, but they've touched

771
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Speaker 4: greatness in so many different areas.

772
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Speaker 9: I love it when they're able to convey some of

773
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Speaker 9: those stories.

774
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Speaker 3: Yeah again, maybe one of the best clutch performers in

775
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Speaker 3: NFL history too. The moment got big. It was not

776
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Speaker 3: too big for Joe Montana. All right, we had we

777
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Speaker 3: heard from a little bit earlier. Let's play a little

778
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Speaker 3: snippet from a conversation we had on a training camp

779
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Speaker 3: visit to the Chargers with their general manager, Tom Telesco.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny.

781
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Speaker 4: I had a conversation with one of your mentors, Bill Paul,

782
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Speaker 4: and he talked about the growing importance of safety and

783
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Speaker 4: it's overlooked kind of in the scouting world.

784
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Speaker 9: But now you have a guy like Derwin James.

785
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Speaker 4: Why is it important to have a guy who has

786
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Speaker 4: versatility to play the run, to play the pass in

787
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Speaker 4: the middle of your defense.

788
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Speaker 20: I just think we asked them to do so much.

789
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Speaker 20: And what's funny is even like twenty thirty years ago,

790
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Speaker 20: I think they were still asked to do a lot

791
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Speaker 20: of different things. You know, tackle like a linebacker, be

792
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Speaker 20: able to cover. But I think because the game is

793
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 20: much more spread out, the safeties at least in our defense,

794
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Speaker 20: that are really down the box tackling safeties if they

795
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 20: can't cover real well, if they have a hard time

796
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Speaker 20: playing for us, So you know, to fine a safety

797
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Speaker 20: that has some corner like movement and cover skills, but

798
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Speaker 20: can tackle, you know, like I like I say, like

799
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Speaker 20: a linebacker, but just tackle get people down. They're hard

800
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Speaker 20: to find, so there's a lot of responsibility in those

801
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Speaker 20: guys and then all the communication that goes on. So yeah,

802
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Speaker 20: it's like twenty years ago, safeties that you didn't seem

803
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Speaker 20: to get drafted that high that often, and even Ed

804
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Speaker 20: Reid went I think late in the first round.

805
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Speaker 10: You imagine that.

806
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Speaker 20: But yeah, I've kind of changed a little bit where

807
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 20: you know, maybe that wasn't a premium position when I

808
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 20: started in this business, but now there is no doubt

809
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 20: my mind as a premium position because they play a

810
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 20: lot and they ask a lot of them, and you know,

811
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Speaker 20: we're only playing two linebackers.

812
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Speaker 10: Usually used to be three.

813
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Speaker 20: So it's it's just the game's changed again.

814
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Speaker 3: Trying to keep up with trends, Buck and get a

815
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Speaker 3: chance to talk out at training campus.

816
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Speaker 2: It's one of the fun parts of the gig.

817
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 4: Dan is one of the front pusson gig and to

818
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 4: be able to do it with a real live example

819
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 4: in Dermy James, to be able to use him as

820
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Speaker 4: the talking point.

821
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Speaker 9: Tom Sai LESCo.

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Speaker 4: Uh, being able to reference because I had a conversation

823
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Speaker 4: one day with Bill Poland so uh, they work together.

824
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: So being able to kind of take it and make

825
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: it almost a full circle moment where you're beginning to

826
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Speaker 4: hear I don't say the scouting gospel kind of handed

827
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Speaker 4: down from one generation to another.

828
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Speaker 3: Well, we also talked a minute ago about positionless players,

829
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Speaker 3: and we have a clip there going back to the

830
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Speaker 3: to the Combine conversation. This is a question you had

831
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Speaker 3: for Howie Roseman GM at the Eagles.

832
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Speaker 4: DJ and I have a thing where we're saying football

833
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Speaker 4: is moving to positionless ball, where you're seeing these guys

834
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Speaker 4: that are wide receivers but they play running back there

835
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Speaker 4: they're wing. And then on defense, you're seeing these safeties

836
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 4: dropped down in the box and play linebacker. How has

837
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: that changed the evaluation process for you guys versatility.

838
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Speaker 21: Well, it goes to what what you're seeing go on

839
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Speaker 21: in high school football and then college football, and so

840
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 21: you can try to change, you know, what guys know.

841
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 21: But we're in this win now mode, all of us

842
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 21: in the National Football League, and so we have a

843
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 21: short period of time like it's no longer where you

844
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 21: get your first or second round picks and they have

845
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Speaker 21: two years and then you know you're able to hold

846
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 21: on to them after that, like they got to come play,

847
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 21: and they got to come play now, so you can

848
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 21: either try to adjust their skill set. And now you're

849
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 21: taking a guy, you're taking him out of his environment,

850
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 21: You're bringing him into a new city, you're putting money

851
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 21: in his pocket, you're letting him live by himself, you're

852
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 21: teaching him new scheme, and now you're changing his whole

853
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 21: technique and what he does well. So it excoots you,

854
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 21: or you're saying, here's a guy, this is what he

855
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 21: does well, and this is what we're going to utilize,

856
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 21: so you better adjust, you know, and it better be

857
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 21: about what they do well and how you can acclimate

858
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 21: them into your scheme as opposed to this is what

859
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 21: we do well, and now you have to adjust or

860
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 21: you're gonna be wrong a lot. And you know these

861
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 21: positionless players, And it's funny because we just did a

862
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 21: podcast with with our website and on Behold, they use

863
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 21: DJ's positionless players.

864
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Speaker 15: Right from me, and I had to remind our fans

865
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Speaker 15: that some of these positionless players that just two of

866
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Speaker 15: you are talking about aren't getting anywhere close to twenty one.

867
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Speaker 12: In the draft.

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Speaker 2: You know, like this is not like this is not.

869
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 15: Like these you know, unicorn position of those players are

870
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Speaker 15: there in the sixth round.

871
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Speaker 2: Fair point.

872
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Speaker 3: It's a fair point from Howie Roseman on that one

873
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: buck a fair point.

874
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 4: But what I love and going down memory lane, just

875
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 4: how these things a kind of showing up in today's game.

876
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 4: And then to talk to him, you think about the

877
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles and what they're doing and how they're the

878
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 4: roster they players that they've assembled, and the depth and

879
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 4: the I would say, the versatility of the guys that

880
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: they have at the front line that can bounce all

881
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 4: over and do all these things. Howie Roseman was so

882
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 4: generous to give us the time, But I love this

883
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Speaker 4: part of what we were able to do.

884
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 3: We get a chance to visit with Super Bowl winning

885
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Speaker 3: head coaches. Also get a chance to visit with a

886
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 3: lot of National Championship winning college coaches, including Clemson's Dabbo Sweeney.

887
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 4: You know, coach, is interesting because I'm really close to

888
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: one of your former players, Dexter. Lawrence Dexter played for

889
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 4: my dad. Dexter played for my dad in high school

890
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 4: and wait for us. Yeah, and so Dexter always would

891
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 4: rave about the culture that you've created down in Clemson.

892
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: He just talked about how great of a man you were,

893
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 4: how great the program was for our listeners.

894
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 9: What is the culture down in Clemson? What is it about? What?

895
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: What have you put in place to help young people

896
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 4: grow and thrive?

897
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 10: Relationship?

898
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: Love?

899
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 22: You know, we serve their heart, not their talent. And

900
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 22: you know, our program is about what's best for the players.

901
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 22: And you know, now sometimes what's best for the players

902
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 22: the players don't like. But I think at the end

903
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 22: of the day. You know, there's an old saying that says,

904
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 22: rules without relationship leads to rebellion. And uh, you know,

905
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 22: we we have relationships and we we we have transparency

906
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 22: and we communicate lots of trust and respect and communication.

907
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 22: We've built a family atmosphere that's very real and genuine.

908
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 22: It's not something you can fabricate. We appreciate each other.

909
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 22: We talk about appreciation.

910
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: Uh.

911
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 22: We we teach servant leadership. You know, nobody's better than

912
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 22: anybody else. How can you how can you uh brighten

913
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 22: somebody's day? You know, so we we just every day

914
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 22: it's just woven into our culture here. We create opportunities

915
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 22: for our players, certainly as football players, but more importantly

916
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 22: as men, you know, through our Paul Journey program. And

917
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 22: but at the end of the day, it comes down

918
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 22: to you know, it's not just the people involved, but

919
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 22: the intentions of the people involved. You know, we're very

920
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 22: intentional in what we do.

921
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 10: And uh, you know, it's.

922
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 22: About graduating our players and equipping them with the tools

923
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 22: that they need to be successful on and off the field.

924
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 22: It's about making sure they have a great experience.

925
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 9: And that they win.

926
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 22: But it's in that order, and so everything in our

927
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 22: program is geared toward that.

928
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: No, that's outstanding there from Coach Swiney and I always

929
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: love about the interviews that we do, and if you've

930
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: listened to us for a long period of time, you know,

931
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: my favorite thing on the show is when we have

932
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: players that are at Clemson that we have on and

933
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: we get a chance to retell the story of Bucky

934
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: playing against.

935
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: Going down to the bottom of that hill.

936
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 3: Come on down, Come on down, down, Tigers, come on down, right.

937
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: They all they just light up, they light.

938
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: They light up, and they all have the same reaction,

939
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 4: Oh you did that? That that that that probably didn't

940
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 4: end too well. No, it didn't look it was. It

941
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 4: was a lesson learned. It was one of those things

942
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 4: we talked about a little humility. Yeah, we learned. We

943
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 4: learned a great less of humility going down to here.

944
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: True stories.

945
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 3: Well, that video was probably I don't know a handful

946
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: of years old, maybe four or five years old.

947
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: I wore that shirt two days ago.

948
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Speaker 3: Consistency, she speaks quality to the the athleisure wear holding

949
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: up well over the years.

950
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Speaker 9: Yes, all right.

951
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 3: How about Penn State's James Franklin. We've had a chance

952
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: to visit with him a couple of times. Uh, and

953
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: this was a little snippet when we asked him. We're

954
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 3: asking a bunch of guys this question. The best high

955
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 3: school football player you've ever seen, best high school football

956
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: player that you've ever seen. Could be somebody who signed,

957
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 3: didn't sign, but just best high school football player you've

958
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 3: ever seen. We've heard Alan Iverson, We've heard Frank Gore,

959
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 3: We've heard an unbelievable list of players.

960
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: So we want to get your answer on that one.

961
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 16: It's hard for me to say that because I'm gonna

962
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 16: piss a lot of people off of I don't say that.

963
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: That's I know. Everybody's done it. Everybody's done it.

964
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 23: It's hard for me not to say you're allowed.

965
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 9: You're allowed to say your guy loud.

966
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 16: It's like a home run saying my god, it's hard

967
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 16: to go against that guy. It is a cool picture

968
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 16: that I got in my basement with me and Sean Spencer,

969
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 16: my d line coach who had.

970
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 23: That recruiting area. And it's a picture taken from a

971
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 23: local newspaper. And it shot over Saquon's shoulder. It Saquon's back,

972
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 23: shot over his shoulder, and me and Shawn are standing

973
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 23: on the sideline scouting the game.

974
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Speaker 9: You know.

975
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: So it's a really cool shot.

976
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go with my man.

977
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 9: Nothing wrong with that coach, nothing wrong.

978
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: No, you're allowed, coach. It was a good one. We

979
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: had so many great stories. By the way, I think

980
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 3: these videos, Nobill, can you confirm that for us. I

981
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: think we actually have a camera on to bil back there, Nobill,

982
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 3: the high school stories. I know, the Lebron James one

983
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 3: that's on YouTube, right, you can find that on YouTube.

984
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 24: Yeah, YouTube, Twitter, I can resurface it.

985
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I was just but I mean, we asked

986
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 3: a bunch of people best high school player? You had

987
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: the brun We had some other videos to who else

988
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 3: did we have for some of those answers? I know

989
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 3: you would hunted up a bunch of video and found

990
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: video some of those high school kid.

991
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 24: Yeah, we also had Lebron's high school coach on and

992
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 24: we had a bunch of guys, a bunch of college

993
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 24: coaches over the years answer that.

994
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well again, Alan iverson the Lebron.

995
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 4: James one is interesting because I remember Irvan Meyer telling

996
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 4: the story about Lebron and just seeing the big kid

997
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: like going out there.

998
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 9: He he kid, that kid. Oh, it's just he stood

999
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 9: out all times leading school. Thenba, don't worry about him, coach,

1000
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 9: He's not gonna be there for you.

1001
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: Oh man, I was trying to think of some of

1002
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: the other ones.

1003
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: The other high school do you remember because we went

1004
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: to Pack twelve media day, we asked all those guys

1005
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: best high school player you'd ever seen?

1006
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 4: It was just such a it was such a collection

1007
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 4: of just like great players.

1008
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: You know.

1009
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 4: I can't remember if Reggie Bush was in that conversation.

1010
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: Maybe that was just our own feelings just watching Christian

1011
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 4: College and and that stuff, but it was it was

1012
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 4: great to kind of walk down memory lane.

1013
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: Oh you know, I think I think did Eric Weddle

1014
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: get a vote from somebody?

1015
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 4: He might have like he was such a good player

1016
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 4: at Utah. I can only imagine what he was like

1017
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 4: in high school.

1018
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so anyway, that was it? Oh yeah, no question

1019
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 3: is that Rachel Bernard high School?

1020
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: Our al right, gosh, what was it? And Nebille, what

1021
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: do we have?

1022
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 24: We had David Shaw, we had say Andrew Luck and.

1023
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 4: McCaffrey one yea, yeah, he was on the Homer train too,

1024
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 4: like everybody, Yeah, pump your guys.

1025
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 3: That's that's that's the way that works. All right, Let's

1026
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 3: get to another quick one here. I think this is

1027
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: our last cut that we have. This is on our

1028
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: conversation we used to you know, we do the three

1029
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: sixty episodes, so if you've never heard those before, you

1030
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: can go back in his classic We will find, you know,

1031
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 3: usually three or four guys each draft class, and we

1032
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: would do a deep dive talk to everybody that we

1033
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: could find that knew these guys well. And if we

1034
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: think about who the favorite is currently to be the

1035
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: MVP through three weeks, it's early, but twa tongue of

1036
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 3: Iloa has been the three game MVP.

1037
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: He's off to a great start.

1038
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: And when he was coming out, we did a two

1039
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: of three sixty and I had a chance to talk

1040
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 3: with Trent Dilfer, who was with you on the Elite

1041
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: eleven and got to know Tua and also was training

1042
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: toa in the run up to that year's draft.

1043
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: But here's a little snippet of what he had to

1044
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: say about Tua.

1045
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 13: And this is maybe the best thing I can say

1046
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 13: about He's a one rep guy. He can change, and

1047
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 13: one rep you can ask him to do anything you

1048
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 13: want him to be able to do. I've never personally

1049
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 13: seen a prospect as good as to us. I think

1050
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 13: the kid is beyond special.

1051
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: I don't know that you know what separates him to me?

1052
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 3: Like I always try and figure out what's the guy's

1053
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 3: superpower if you're a quarterback, what is the superpower you possessed?

1054
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 10: To me, I just keep.

1055
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 3: Coming back to that word twitch and the quickness.

1056
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 13: That he has, because there's a lot of guys that

1057
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 13: are twitching, but then they lack power. There's a lot

1058
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 13: of guys that are powerful, but they lack twitch. She

1059
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 13: was the ultimate combination of both for me.

1060
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: There you go again.

1061
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 3: So many fun conversations over the years, thousand episodes, buck.

1062
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: A thousand episodes, great players, great coaches, great contributors to

1063
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: the podcast, and just in terms of like just bringing

1064
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 4: an insight and wisdom. And sometimes there's something to being

1065
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 4: able to if you don't have the answer, but being

1066
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 4: able to go and ask somebody that they can give

1067
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 4: you to answer. So Trent and some of the other

1068
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 4: guys that we just saw in that videos, it was

1069
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 4: great to be able to kind of tap into their

1070
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: experience and expertise as we always are trying to get.

1071
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: Smart, no doubt.

1072
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: I jotted down a couple of names here and then

1073
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: add to it fill in the blanks. I'm not gonna

1074
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: be able to get to everybody. But this podcast originally

1075
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 3: started with TDH.

1076
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: He started it.

1077
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: Td has gone on to Unbelievable. He's gone on to

1078
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: New Heights. Let's just say that. Yeah, literally and figuratively,

1079
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: he's left what we were doing here. He was working

1080
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: with Lebron's group over Uninterrupted and had launched a bunch

1081
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: of those pods.

1082
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 10: Then.

1083
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: Now, if you look at the probably the most popular

1084
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 3: sports podcast right now, and especially with the latest news

1085
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: new Heights with the Kelsey's. That's TD running the show

1086
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: over there as well. He's the one who kind of

1087
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 3: got this thing launched.

1088
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 9: He did, he had some great ideas. He did a

1089
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 9: really good job. And we had what we had will Foul,

1090
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 9: We had Sully.

1091
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: Yep, we had Kent, We had our Juna, yeah, Ar

1092
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: Julia came through for me. So we've had a bunch

1093
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: of different guys. But I want to just take a

1094
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: minute here and give a special shout out because all

1095
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: those guys have been instrumental in this thing, but none

1096
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: of them have produced as many episodes as our current

1097
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: producer Nobil No Bill. I think we were talking about

1098
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: this a little bit earlier. What do you think maybe

1099
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 3: four hundred of these things? How many of these things

1100
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: have you done?

1101
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Speaker 24: I think about six hundred. I started six.

1102
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Speaker 3: Hundred, that's right, six hundred, No Bill, No Bill.

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00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 4: We would give you like a replica college jersey to

1104
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 4: support your fano, but we just don't know which one

1105
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 4: to get.

1106
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't depends on the week.

1107
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 9: I don't know. I don't know again, Like so it

1108
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 9: would be hard.

1109
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 4: I'm glad now that he's all the way back on

1110
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 4: the Packers. Yeah, he jumped off from he jumped off

1111
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 4: when Aaron Rodgers went to the back on the Day's back.

1112
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: Because Jordan Love is kind of looking like he may

1113
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 4: be the next one to kind of pick up the

1114
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: baton to carry for a little bit.

1115
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: Well, the thing I love about No Bill first of all,

1116
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 3: for those that you know, you get to hear him

1117
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: on an episode here or there.

1118
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: He does all the work.

1119
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: Man, he edited, trust me, when we're recording these things,

1120
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: a lot of times, hey stop down, you know, take

1121
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 3: this out, add this we screwed up. Let's do it

1122
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: over again. He's got to do all the editing.

1123
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 10: You know.

1124
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 3: All this stuff goes into video, which which he helps

1125
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: get all that or organized and orchestrated. Because every every

1126
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 3: podcast episode we have has a video component to it.

1127
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: Obviously it lives in its entirety, but then he'll cut

1128
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: it up and blast out on social So it's a

1129
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: lot of work that goes on with that. He's never come.

1130
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: I've never heard him complain one time anytime. Anytime I

1131
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: ever call him. It's my favorite thing because my son

1132
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: will be in the car with me. I'll pick him up.

1133
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: And then if I got to call him, the Bill

1134
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 3: on something. He answers the phone the same way every time.

1135
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this, but uh so

1136
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 3: I'll go, uh hey, DJ everything okay, you worried. He

1137
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 3: just wants to make sure that everything's smooth. But anyway,

1138
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 3: he cares. He cares a tremendous amount. He's really good

1139
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 3: at his job, and he's stuck with us for a

1140
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: long time, and he's loyal to the soil. In fact,

1141
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: I think we have a clip of the bill because

1142
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: he had some he had some words for for those

1143
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: that maybe not be on board with us.

1144
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 24: Here, Oh what is this episode?

1145
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 3: See, he's bow he's getting ready to bow up and

1146
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: he's literally trained and he literally trains m m A.

1147
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: So you know, any other podcast producers want to have

1148
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 3: a go, I mean, got our guy, We'll take our

1149
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: as long as it's in the in this weight class.

1150
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 4: Let's not get guys fifteen pound down there down there

1151
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 4: with the strawweights.

1152
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, but you know who else who We should

1153
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 3: give a special shout out to Mark Brady who's here.

1154
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: But Mark was really a driving force of this podcast

1155
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: in the early state. But Mark and Tom and Tom

1156
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,479
Speaker 3: Brady as well, you know, Jason Cleman has been over

1157
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 3: this thing running and to help run this thing for

1158
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: several years now and and again continue to give you

1159
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: know what I love.

1160
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 4: About climbing like like the last couple of years, like

1161
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 4: it's coincided with a lot of Dodger success, a.

1162
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 3: Lot of regular season that is a lot of regular

1163
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 3: season success. I know, I know you still we eliminated

1164
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: the Giants yesterday though, huh how about that?

1165
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: Which is great? Hope you guys can stay stay for

1166
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: the point. What happened to the enemy of the enemy

1167
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: is my friend or whatever? Does that not matter anymore?

1168
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 2: Come on?

1169
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 11: Uh?

1170
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: Anyways, again, I know there's people saying I've listened to

1171
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 3: a thousand episodes and if I have to here about

1172
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 3: the Padres one more time, I'm done. I'm unsubscribing the bill.

1173
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: Do we have a what do we have here? We

1174
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: have a cake or something?

1175
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 24: What do we got I'll bring it out to you

1176
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 24: guys right now.

1177
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 3: Oh you go see they do this thing right? A

1178
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 3: thousand episodes, Bucky Brooks thousand?

1179
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: How about that?

1180
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 3: How great would it be if we if we walked

1181
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: out of here and they said, yeah, you guys are done,

1182
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: this was it. We can get to a thousand, and

1183
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: look at this thing. How about is this homemade? Okay,

1184
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: it's okay, just lie to me. Yeah, we get uh,

1185
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 3: we got a thousand cake. You want to hold that up?

1186
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 3: We can see it here. Look at that, Look at that,

1187
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: Look at that, Look at that. We get a little

1188
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: shot of that thing that is really nice. And to

1189
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 3: think Hans has made this thing this morning very nice.

1190
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 3: Good well, no, I mean, let's be honest, Dan didn't

1191
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 3: make this. But it's in danger of getting eaten, oh

1192
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 3: for sure. I mean, let's call a spade a spade here,

1193
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: all right, that's gonna do it for us. On the

1194
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: one thousandth episode of Move the Sticks. You guys have

1195
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 3: been here with us. We cannot thank you enough. Here's

1196
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: to many thousand more and we'll see you next time

1197
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: next week right here on Move the Sticks