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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: AM on iHeartRadio, and welcome back to Coast to Coast 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: George nor with you. I'm going to tell you about 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: our guests. After losing her thirty five year old husband 14 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: to cancer, Christina rescues in overwhelming grief spurred her to 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: locate the afterlife in order to reconnect with her husband. 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: Now a skeptic of conventional mystical and religious descriptions, she 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: instead draws on basic principles of quantum physics to explore 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: other dimensions. Christina has proven step by step guide to 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: business in another world allows people to experience the afterlife, 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: discover a deep sense of peace, and to be with 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: our lost loved ones. She is also with the author 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: of Second First. This one is called Where Did You Go? Christina? 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: Welcome to Coast to Coast George, so good to hear 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: your voice. Hi, how are you? I am very well 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: and very happy to be talking to you. I'm glad 26 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: you're on the program and we're going to get a 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: lot of insight from you about this Now, without dwelling 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: on the tragedy you went through, could you tell us 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: a little bit about what happened absolutely a long time ago, 30 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: when I was really young, around thirty years old, my husband, 31 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: my thirty one year old husband, was diagnosed with colon 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: cancer and George, it was state four at the time. 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: We had a nine month old baby girl in a 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: two and a half year old daughter, and it was catastrophic. 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: We never expected anything so tragic to happen. He lived 36 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: with that colon cans for about three and a half years, 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: and at age thirty five, he passed away. And George, 38 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: and I know for many people who are listening tonight, 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: um that feeling of loss, the absence, the immediacy of 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: death was terrible and confusing, and I wanted to I 41 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: wanted to be the one who had died actually, and 42 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: another yeah, I wanted to be the one. And would 43 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: you believe prior to that, I had studied grief and 44 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: actually I did my thesis on the stages of rievemon 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: and studied Elizabeth called the Rossum. And nothing that I studied, 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: and nothing that that I thought I knew could have 47 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: prepared me for what happened. And George, in that moment, 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: also realized that millions and millions of people have experienced 49 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: and are experiencing what I was experiencing, and it was tragic. Christine, 50 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: were you a believer in odd at that time? You know, 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: I was raised in Greece, That's where my accent is. Okay, sure, yeah, 52 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: And we actually believed in a god, yes, and being 53 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: Greek Orthodox, so I was raised very traditionally and believed 54 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: in this higher power that was God. But when my 55 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: husband passed away, I have to tell you, George, I 56 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: questioned everything. How could God do this right? How could 57 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: God take the person I loved the most away from 58 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: me and from his children? Oh? Exactly, I've been in 59 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Saint Louis right now, Christina where they have a huge 60 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: Greek population. And every year I go to their church, 61 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: the Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church. They have a Labor 62 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: Day party and that the last three days and just 63 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: great people. Thank you, thank you very much. Yeah. And 64 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: we believe, we believe in we are religious people. We 65 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: believe in it, in God and divinity. But when tragedy strikes, 66 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: George your question everything, Yes, you do you doubt things? 67 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you doubt reality. That's what I That's what 68 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: I did. I doubted when he was here and in 69 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: the in those last moments he goes here, he was present, 70 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean he was in a comment, but he would 71 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: respond to what I was saying to him, and then 72 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: within one slit second he was gone. And when someone 73 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: is gone, there's nothing there. You would be considered now 74 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: a grief educator, wouldn't you. And you you help people 75 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: through grief, yes, by with with what you went through. 76 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: You wrote the book second first, and of course this one, 77 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: which is where did you go? What compelled you to 78 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: write this second book? You know, I helped so many 79 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: people um re enter life. That's what I called come 80 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: back to a full life, a whole life after loss. 81 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: I helped them escape what I called the waiting room, 82 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: that place where we go and wait until we feel better. 83 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: And even though all these people were able to find 84 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: their way back, George, there was one question that remained, 85 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: and that was my question as well, where did my 86 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: person actually go? And after you feel better and the 87 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: grieving is a little more settled, that question doesn't go away. 88 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: To be true, truthfully, it doesn't just disappear. I wanted 89 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: to know, and not just for myself, but for those 90 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: that I was helping. Um, they were asking that question. 91 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: Actually the question some people say where did you go? 92 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: And some people say where are you? Actually, millions of 93 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: people are asking that question all the time. You know 94 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: it right, people who you interview, and your your listeners 95 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: as well. And this is why. And actually, George and 96 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: I have to be honest with you, I did not 97 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: want to write this book. I did not did it 98 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: bring back memories? No, I've created a great body of 99 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: work m the Life Rangry model with my first book. 100 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: Um I've I've I've became a grief educator and experts. 101 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden I was about to 102 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: write a book about the so called afterlife. George, think 103 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: about that that that would not have been a good 104 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: that is not a wife step from from my point 105 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: of view. But I was so compelled and obsessed and 106 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: completely and totally taken by what I discovered that I 107 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: could not be a hypocrite and not write it. I 108 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: would have been lying to my community and my readers 109 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: and and and the people I was helping if I 110 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: did not reveal what I've discovered. UM, So I wrote 111 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: this book for for everyone, um not for me. I 112 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: UM I felt that there was no other way but 113 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: to write it, and to write it in a way 114 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: that not only was I going to talk about um 115 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: science and the quantum mechanics and and and how the 116 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: universe is made, but how we can experience this so 117 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: called afterlife, how can we actually connect with the people 118 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: we've lost? And in a way, George, I took a 119 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: major risk in this book. I gave people the controls, 120 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: and in every chapter there is an experience that they 121 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: have to take on their own. So this could be 122 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: a great book. But if people are not experiencing what 123 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm telling you the experience, then then then the 124 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: risk is on me. And but I wanted them to experience. 125 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: Actually the book is coming out now, it's it's midnight 126 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: here on the West Coast. Yeah, I've got one of 127 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: the proof sets already. Yeah. Actually, as George, we're we're 128 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: together in this moment, and I was really happy to 129 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: hear that it was tonight, that I was going to 130 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: be with you tonight while this book was coming out 131 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: of the world. Well that's great. Now, prior to your 132 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: husband's death, what did you think of dying at that time? Terrifying, 133 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: scared of it, very scared. I was scared about death. 134 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: I did not want to die. Not that I want 135 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: to die now now you know this is what I say. 136 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: Let's not be afraid of dying, but there's no rush 137 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: to do. I want to be very much alive. I 138 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: love my life. But I was. But before all of 139 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: this happened, I was terrified. I was so scared, and 140 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: even after he passed, I was so afraid, even of 141 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: turning off the lights. In my first book, I talked 142 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: about how I turned on the lights and left them 143 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: on for at least four months after he passed TV lights. 144 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: I even told him before he died too, after he 145 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: had passed, not to come and scare me with turning 146 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: on and off the lights or making any strange noises, 147 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: because this is not funny for me, and I don't 148 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: need to have signs because I was so scared. If 149 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: you had told me then that I was going to 150 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: go and write a book and put myself in this world, 151 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: I would have told you completely what compelled you? The truth? 152 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: I discovered first it was the question. And as I 153 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: stepped into that world, Actually, George, it was not that 154 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: scary because I didn't go to the ghostly, creepy kind 155 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: of dark world. I went to the to the atoms 156 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: and the particles and the holographic universe, and where does 157 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: light and energy come from? And what are we made of? 158 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: And there was nothing scary about that. Actually, that world 159 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: included a lot of answers and a lot of discoveries 160 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: and facts and experiments that what that nobody knew about. 161 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: The scientists knew about, a small group of people knew about, 162 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: but the masses and the regular folks like us actually 163 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: did not know about. And I said to myself, they 164 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: need to know this. They need to know that, you know, 165 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: energy and matter is the same thing. They need to 166 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: know that we can't hear all the sounds that are 167 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: taking place that we can't see all the light that 168 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: is around us, that when we die, it's just a 169 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: physical body that dies and not consciousness. What was it, Christina, 170 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: that got you to understand this? Did your self taught 171 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: yourself for what happened? I studied everyone and everything. And 172 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard of someone called Robert Lanza. 173 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeahs he said, and I'm quoting him. He said, 174 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: if one could travel at light speed, one would find 175 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: oneself everywhere in the universe, all at once. And he 176 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: basically said that time doesn't exist. There is no after 177 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: death except this is the part that stay with me, 178 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: except the death of your physical body in someone else's now, 179 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: that of your physical body in someone else's now. So basically, 180 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: we die in someone else's reality, not in our own. 181 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing? And you say that we don't have 182 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: to die to find out what death is all about. No, 183 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: we don't. I actually believe we can connect. I know 184 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: we can connect with the consciousness of our loved ones. 185 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: Someone said to me or to the other day. So Christina, 186 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: you have to make it very clear to people that 187 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: you're not talking to the dead the way traditional psychics 188 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: and mediums do. I'm not hearing voices, I'm not seeing ghosts. 189 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: We actually connect with a consciousness of the people with 190 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: lost and we can interact with them. I believe there 191 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: is a way to bypass a professional psychic and a medium, 192 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: and not that they can't do it and they shouldn't 193 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: do it. They're actually some of the them are amazing 194 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: that the real mediums and the real psychics have trained themselves. 195 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: They have spent time in that world, George, and they 196 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: know how to do it, and absolutely go to them. 197 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: If you don't trust your own selves in this journey, however, 198 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: we can become students of that world, and anyone and 199 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: everyone can access it. Listen to more Coast to Coast 200 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: AM every weeknight at one am Eastern, and go to 201 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast am dot com for more