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Speaker 2: Tucker, You're not the father. This has to be wrong.

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Speaker 3: After Hours with Alex Stein, no filter, if it was okay,

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Speaker 2: About things that probably you shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Talk about, the undisputed King of Trolling show.

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Speaker 3: At one point, your ancestors own slaves.

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Speaker 2: Us deep platforming works. He went to kill babies. But

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Speaker 2: she's still beautiful. Look at that booty on AOC. That's

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Speaker 1: Politics, culture hypocrisy.

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Speaker 3: They want them to have their penises cut.

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Speaker 1: Late Night just got dangerous. After Hours with your host

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Speaker 1: Alex Stein starts right now.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys for being here this evening.

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Speaker 3: You're watching After Hours with Alex Stahn on Real America's Voice,

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Speaker 3: and we got a great episode for you this week.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday evening, we.

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Speaker 3: Have NFL legend Jamal Lewis joining us after receiving his

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Speaker 3: presidential pardon from the one the Only Donald J. Trump,

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Speaker 3: very deservedly so, if you actually look into his court case.

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Speaker 3: Apparently he made a phone call and they tried to

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Speaker 3: say that he set up some big drug.

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Speaker 2: Deal, but he never even touched the drugs.

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Speaker 3: And apparently he wasn't even on the phone call that

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Speaker 2: It's absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy that we have a great president and

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Speaker 3: like this Jamal Lewis does not deserved to live in

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Speaker 3: constant fear, can't own a gun, can't vote. It's all ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: And now all of that has gone away because of

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Speaker 3: our great President, Donald Trump. But before we get into

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, I have to talk about somebody that's very

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Speaker 3: near and dear to my heart, my biological stepfather, Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 3: Tucker was just recently detained at gary On Airport in

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Speaker 3: Tel Aviv, Israel, during his interview with Mike Huckabee. Now

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Speaker 3: some people are saying that this is Tucker over exaggerating,

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Speaker 3: and some people are very mad. Now I'm on the

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Speaker 3: side of very mad. I texted Tucker. He said everything

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Speaker 3: is copasetic, everything is cool, but that the situation was

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Speaker 3: very tense. Now, if Israel is trying to do a

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Speaker 3: strategic propaganda campaign to gain more support.

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Speaker 3: And I know they're listening because I watch everything I do.

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Speaker 3: They probably record my phone calls, but whatever. My point is,

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Speaker 2: If you're having a propaganda.

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Speaker 3: Campaign where you want people that are moderate or don't

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Speaker 3: Israel Palestine conflict, don't detain journalists for going to Tel

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Speaker 2: That only makes it.

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Speaker 3: Scarier for me when I decide if I want to

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Speaker 3: to get to Tel Aviv, Israel. I'm about to go

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Speaker 3: They might think that I have something on my keyster

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Speaker 3: You're gonna send Tucker Carlson there to go do a

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Speaker 2: Yes, he has critiqued.

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Speaker 3: But that is a label that they constantly put on

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Speaker 3: it or not. So Israel we got to do better.

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Speaker 3: We got to protect Tucker Carlson. He's an American icon,

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Speaker 3: But there are a lot of reasons for him to

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Speaker 3: Nobody's perfect. We're not going to hold you to some

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Speaker 3: forty sevens. That's all I'm saying, Israel, because this is

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Speaker 2: So I get it.

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Speaker 3: You guys are in an eight front war. Things are tough.

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Speaker 2: You guys know Tucker's not a criminal.

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Speaker 3: You guys know he's not a terrorist, So don't treat

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Speaker 3: you know what is gay? The City of New York,

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Speaker 4: the only option we have remaining is the second path.

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Speaker 3: So in a way, I do do you blame Israel

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Speaker 3: You're ridiculous, Mom, Donnie, and you deserve to already be impeached,

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Speaker 3: Well, Jamal, you know you're making ways because you were

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Speaker 3: just recently pardoned by Donald Trump, which I loved.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Also, Nate Newton received a pardon, but I had to ask.

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Speaker 3: Nate Newton was getting a little kickback in the Dallas

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Speaker 3: which I think that sounds ludicrous.

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Speaker 2: Of course you got to take the pardon.

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Speaker 3: But my point is, have you gotten any similar kickback

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Speaker 6: It's been all positive, all positive from the people here

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Speaker 5: It's about time and it's been a long time coming.

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Speaker 6: I can remember going into training camp and I think

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Speaker 5: And they said, well, that's ray Lewis.

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Speaker 6: You don't nobody got it, So he's That was my

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, luckily you didn't have to play against him.

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Speaker 2: Now, Ray, what do you excuse me? Jamal? What do

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Speaker 3: You're a guy that ran like a four to three forty,

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Speaker 2: Now the game has changed a lot.

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Speaker 3: Are we going to see the same type of Jamal

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Speaker 5: I think it tip of the way.

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Speaker 5: But I think the nature of us changed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a business. But I want to go

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Speaker 3: It's the second week of the season, you break the

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Speaker 2: Who had a better game?

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Speaker 3: I think if you just watch the highlights in his game,

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Speaker 5: Love for it to be him, and he got it.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, this is my problem to Jamal is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think they do.

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Speaker 5: But it's like anything else.

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Speaker 5: And I think that these guys the last two years.

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Speaker 5: I try to make it deciding every time, but you

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Speaker 2: And you did hit a lot of home runs.

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Speaker 3: But a lot of people, since I am conservative, they

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Speaker 3: I don't think he deserves a lot of the hate

443
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Speaker 3: that he gets because he was great Assissippi State.

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Speaker 2: He's been great with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Do you foresee the Cowboys ever having success with Jerry

446
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Speaker 3: Jones as the owner, because I know he's an icon,

447
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Speaker 3: But I'm just I've lost hope in the Dallas Cowboys.

448
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Speaker 3: So what is your professional opinion on the Dallas Cowboys.

449
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Speaker 3: Can they be saved and ever get back to championship levels?

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Speaker 2: In your opinion, I.

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Speaker 6: Think they can, But I just just like you said, man,

452
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Speaker 6: I think Jerry Jones is really in the way. I

453
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Speaker 6: think he's in the way making all the calls, calling

454
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Speaker 6: all the shots. You know, has a lot to do

455
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Speaker 6: with everything that's going on there. And I've never played

456
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Speaker 6: for an owner like that, especially with Steven Shandey and

457
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Speaker 6: Art Moredell. They let the organization handles everything and make

458
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Speaker 6: all the right moves and they stay out and wait.

459
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Speaker 6: But at the same time, I just don't see the

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Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys taking it, taking it the distance, even though

461
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Speaker 6: they got great players. They bring in great players every year.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, I just think the decision

463
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Speaker 6: making it the top in the organization really hurts it.

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Speaker 3: Jamal, I hate to say it, but I think you're

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent correct. Well, guys, do not go anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, we're gonna ask Jamal is

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Speaker 3: the NFL scripted. I know you want to hear his answer,

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Speaker 3: So don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for watching After Hours with

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Speaker 3: Alex Stein. We have an incredible guest, an NFL legend.

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Speaker 3: He was a national champion. He was also a Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl champion, one of the youngest, the youngest, not one

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Speaker 3: of the youngest player to ever score touchdown in the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl. Let's welcome back Jamal Lewis. Now, Jamal, I

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Speaker 3: have to preface this. I am a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist.

477
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Speaker 3: I think nine to eleven as an inside job. I

478
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Speaker 3: think the moon Landing's fake, So you actually kind of

479
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Speaker 3: understand the perspective that I'm coming from. But if we

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Speaker 3: have a multi billion dollar league where it actually matters

481
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Speaker 3: who wins these games, then you have the influence of

482
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Speaker 3: Las Vegas. I'm not saying that there's an actual written

483
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Speaker 3: script that you guys have to follow. That seems just insane,

484
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Speaker 3: but I do think that they can call a referee

485
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Speaker 3: and tell them to make a judgment call an influence

486
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Speaker 3: the outcome of a football game. So, in your opinion,

487
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Speaker 3: not my crazy conspiracy opinion, is the NFL rigged jimal.

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Speaker 5: No way, no way.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I've heard that, and I've seen all of the

490
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Speaker 6: the you know, just the media, you know, talking about

491
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Speaker 6: that and people talking about that, But that is just

492
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Speaker 6: you know, that's a myth, that's a.

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Speaker 5: Theory, but it can't be.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's I just know how we prepare, you know,

495
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Speaker 6: how we go into preparation for a game, just as

496
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Speaker 6: a fifty three man roster, coaches, organization and all the

497
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Speaker 6: work that we put in out there, and you know,

498
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Speaker 6: just trying to count those wins and losses.

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Speaker 5: It's just honestly, I think it's.

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Speaker 6: Very hard to script this when Hey, look, you know,

501
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Speaker 6: you got guys out there that's trying to make trying

502
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Speaker 6: to make their incentives. You have guys out there that's

503
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Speaker 6: trying to be great. It's trying to be the best

504
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Speaker 6: you have. You know, these these veterans out there trying

505
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Speaker 6: to you know, they're trying to extend their career and

506
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Speaker 6: and and make more money as well. It's very hard

507
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Speaker 6: to convince, you know, fifty three guys, you know, in

508
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Speaker 6: order to go out there and do something wrong. Now,

509
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Speaker 6: the refs and everything else, I don't I don't think

510
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Speaker 6: that they're in it either. But I can tell you

511
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Speaker 6: with the betting in the game now and the fan

512
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Speaker 6: duels and the draft kings and all that in the

513
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Speaker 6: game now, it.

514
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Speaker 5: Is some It can be some stuff in the game, you.

515
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Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Yeah, point shaving.

516
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Speaker 3: There's been basketball NBA players that they've been banned from

517
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Speaker 3: the league for, you know, doing some funny ale prop

518
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Speaker 3: bat situations.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, you're a player.

520
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Speaker 3: You guys are legally allowed to go to Vegas and gamble,

521
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 3: so it's easy to kind of go to the sports

522
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Speaker 3: book and see, oh, you know, we're gonna win ten

523
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Speaker 3: games this year, We're gonna win eleven games this year.

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Speaker 3: You know, it does play a factor in sports, whether

525
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Speaker 3: you want to admit it or not. But I appreciate

526
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Speaker 3: you being honest and I like your perspective.

527
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Speaker 2: Now I want to go back to your career.

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Speaker 3: You played with some of the greats, Now Jonathan Ogden,

529
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Speaker 3: I mean Ed Reid, who in your opinion, was the

530
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Speaker 3: best team in Peyton Manning, I got to mention who

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Speaker 3: was the player that you said, this is the best

532
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Speaker 3: football player I've ever played football with, the.

533
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Speaker 5: Best football player. Man, I gotta go to Peyton Manning.

534
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Speaker 6: It's between Peyton and ray Lewis, Like you got two

535
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Speaker 6: of the best that's on either.

536
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Speaker 5: Side of the football.

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Speaker 6: But Peyton was just one of those guys where I

538
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Speaker 6: remember Coach Cutcliffe coming up to me in practice one

539
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Speaker 6: day and he just told me, he said, you can't

540
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Speaker 6: play for me. And I was like, wow, you know

541
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Speaker 6: you said because you're not a practice player.

542
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Speaker 5: And he told me, he said.

543
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Speaker 6: Come out here tomorrow and I want you to watch

544
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Speaker 6: number sixteen practice and I promise you every single snap

545
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Speaker 6: it was like we were in a game, and you know,

546
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Speaker 6: he critiqued everything. Everything was on point. If there was

547
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Speaker 6: an issue with a play or whatever. He fixed it

548
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Speaker 6: right there. And then when you got in the games,

549
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Speaker 6: it was just efficiency. And he's just all business. And

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Speaker 6: he was in college, so when he got to the pros,

551
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Speaker 6: it was just you know, more dominance, and he's just

552
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Speaker 6: a student of the game. And it just he got

553
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Speaker 6: in his blood from his dad. You know, his brother played,

554
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Speaker 6: you know, Eli, So he's I would say, hands down,

555
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Speaker 6: he's probably the best that ever I've ever played with.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you were in high school, you had a

557
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Speaker 3: plethora of options. You could basically play anywhere in the country,

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Speaker 3: and Tennessee wasn't on your radar. And I saw a

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Speaker 3: great clip of you talking about how you chose Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: So can you explain that. How did you choose Tennessee

561
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Speaker 3: your college choice when you could have played.

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Speaker 2: At any college in the United States of America.

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Speaker 6: So, Nebrownski was my choice. That's where I wanted to go.

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Speaker 6: I was a big Tom Osborne fan. I was a

565
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Speaker 6: big Lawrence Phillips fan. Uh, and I knew they was

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Speaker 6: going to run the ball. But when I went to Tennessee,

567
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Speaker 6: which my coach just asked me, he said, hey, you know,

568
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Speaker 6: you got one more visit that you need to take.

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Speaker 6: Why don't you just go up to Tennessee. You can

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Speaker 6: drive up there. It's in Knoxville. So I said, cool,

571
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Speaker 6: let's do it. So when I went up there, Peyton

572
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Speaker 6: was there, and I remember my dad asked Peyton the

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Speaker 6: question when we was out to dinner and he said, hey,

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Speaker 6: you know, are you going to stay you know for

575
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Speaker 6: your your your your last year, and he said I'm

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Speaker 6: announcing it tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Yes I am.

578
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Speaker 6: And my dad looked at me and he said you're

579
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Speaker 6: coming here and uh. And I think it was the

580
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Speaker 6: best decision I ever made, just because it was a

581
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Speaker 6: business decision. You know, you got somebody like Payton there,

582
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Speaker 6: you got a.

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Speaker 5: Defense like they had.

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Speaker 6: They that the offensive line coach Forman was a was

585
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Speaker 6: an offensive line coach as well, so he took pride

586
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Speaker 6: in the offensive line. He really wanted to run the ball.

587
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Speaker 6: Jay Graham was the running back there to start running back.

588
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Speaker 6: He had just got drafted by the Ravens, so they

589
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 6: really didn't have a starting guy. And I was going

590
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Speaker 6: to get the opportunity coach Foruman told my parents told myself, hey,

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Speaker 6: look you're going to get the opportunity to compete for

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Speaker 6: to play your freshman year, and that's all I needed

593
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 6: was a shot, and he gave it to me, and

594
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Speaker 6: it was the truth, and I could say it was

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Speaker 6: the best decision that I made. And they had nice facilities,

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Speaker 6: and it was just a clean place, and they just

597
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Speaker 6: cutting edge on everything that they that they did and

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Speaker 6: had around the campus.

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Speaker 5: So I felt I made a great choice and the

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Speaker 5: rest is.

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Speaker 1: History, I think.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, you ended up getting picked in the

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Speaker 3: first round, fifth overall pick, I believe by the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously had an incredibly successful college career when

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Speaker 3: they take you number five. Now, a lot of times

606
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Speaker 3: they don't draft running backs that high unless you are

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Speaker 3: a phenomenal running back like yourself.

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Speaker 2: So do you think that's unfair?

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Speaker 3: Do you think that they need to go back to

610
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Speaker 3: drafting running backs early in the draft because they only

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Speaker 3: take about one guy, you know, the top guy, and

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Speaker 3: it's always the guy in the third round or fourth

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Speaker 3: round that ends up being the Pro Bowl running back.

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Speaker 6: It seems like, well, I think the college game kind

615
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Speaker 6: of messed with that because in college it's a lot

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Speaker 6: of passing, it's a lot of this side to side stuff,

617
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Speaker 6: screens and all this type of stuff, so you know,

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Speaker 6: they feel like they can get that three or four

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Speaker 6: yards out of a screen, you know, or whatever. So

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Speaker 6: I just really feel that there's no real featured backs.

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Speaker 6: You know, all the running backs in college, they all.

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Speaker 5: Look the same.

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Speaker 6: You don't have a two hundred and forty pound guy

624
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Speaker 6: running a four to three able to take the ball

625
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Speaker 6: twenty five thirty times a game and also be durable.

626
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Speaker 6: And I think that's what really hurt us is guys

627
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Speaker 6: not staying healthy and guys not taking care of their

628
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Speaker 6: body being a running back. You know, when I trained

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Speaker 6: in off season, I broke my body down all the

630
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Speaker 6: way down, and I built it all the way back

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Speaker 6: up and was ready to go in the season and

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Speaker 6: be able to take on a sixteen game season and

633
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Speaker 6: take on twenty five carriers a game if.

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Speaker 5: I needed it.

635
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Speaker 6: A lot of these guys they couldn't take the ball

636
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Speaker 6: twenty five times a game.

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Speaker 5: They couldn't be a featured back.

638
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Speaker 6: But the sat Quan's, the Derrick Herrys, you know, those guys,

639
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 6: they're built for it.

640
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 5: They're built like it. But that's why they go.

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00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 6: But running back by committee now, because you know, you

642
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 6: got to split those carries up, because you got to

643
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Speaker 6: get thirty carries out of two guys versus one. Now,

644
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Speaker 6: so I think that's the biggest difference.

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Speaker 3: Well, Jamal, we've talked a lot about Ray Lewis because

646
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Speaker 3: he is an icon and he was famous for his

647
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: trash talk and his intimidation ability.

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Speaker 2: Who was the.

649
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Speaker 3: Biggest trash talker and were you a big trash talker?

650
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Speaker 5: I wasn't a big trash talker.

651
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 6: I kept my mouth shut because I had eleven guys

652
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Speaker 6: on the other side of the ball that was coming

653
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Speaker 6: after me, right, But I think, you know, just playing

654
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 6: the game, playing against the Steelers twice a year, Joey Porter,

655
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Speaker 6: he was the biggest trash talk He talked the whole game.

656
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 5: He didn't care what he said or whatever.

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Speaker 6: Uh you know, I just remember, you know, being that

658
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Speaker 6: I did go to prison and all this happened. They

659
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Speaker 6: didn't hold back, I can tell you that, you know, so,

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Speaker 6: so in between players it was, it was a lot

661
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Speaker 6: of talk. And uh, I just I just know Portal

662
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Speaker 6: he was the he was the worst, and I think

663
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Speaker 6: he was probably the biggest trash tarker.

664
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Speaker 5: I didn't care what he said.

665
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Speaker 2: Did it ever get in your head though? Did it

666
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Speaker 2: affect you at all.

667
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: Did you ever say man that you know that kind

668
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: of messing with my ego a little bit.

669
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Speaker 2: Or did you just brush it off?

670
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Speaker 5: Nah, I just brush it off. It just you know,

671
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 5: it was it was taught. You know.

672
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Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing around that time was the fans,

673
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 6: you know, going into an opposing stadium and just the

674
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 6: things that the fans was staying.

675
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 5: You know, it was funny, but at the same time, it.

676
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 6: Just it just egged me on and got me, got

677
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 6: me ready to go and got me ready to go

678
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 6: out there and hurt somebody.

679
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: And you hurt a lot of people.

680
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: You broke a lot of records, and it was just

681
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: incredible to watch your career. Now, when I think about,

682
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: you know, pro sports and the position that you're in,

683
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I don't really love when athletes are

684
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: constantly political, like Michael Jordan is a famous quote saying

685
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: the reason that I wasn't political is because Republicans by

686
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: tennis shoes too. So what do you think about these

687
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: modern day athletes that act like they're you know, big

688
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: political pundits. I kind of use Lebron James as an example.

689
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: One of the best athletes of all time, but he kind.

690
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: Of always wants to insert himself.

691
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: He kind of got in some backlash for saying he

692
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: didn't know about Israel, then he had to walk that back.

693
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: So my point is it's always a losing situation.

694
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: It seems like when athletes in politics get mixed together.

695
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: So what's your opinion on athletes having outspoken political views?

696
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: Maybe like Colin Kaepernick, for one, I think that hurt

697
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: his career. He was a good player, and you know,

698
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: even if his cause was just, which I don't think

699
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: it was unjust, you know, it puts a target on

700
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: your back. So what do you think about politics and athletes?

701
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Speaker 6: I just always say, you know, between religion and politics,

702
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 6: away from it because you know, everybody, everybody pretty much

703
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 6: have their own opinion about, you know, either, and there's

704
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 6: always differences. So I pretty much just stay away from

705
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 6: it and just keep my opinions to myself because no

706
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 6: matter what I think, no matter what I say, there's

707
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 6: always somebody on the other end that's going to agree

708
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 6: to disagree, or they're just going to disagree. So you know,

709
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 6: I think there's no right and there's no wrong, So

710
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 6: it's really hey, you know, it's just what you believe in,

711
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 6: and you just sticking strong to what you believe in

712
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Speaker 6: and holding holding strong to your belief I think that's

713
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Speaker 6: that's pretty much it.

714
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I appreciate that. I think that's very

715
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: candid answer. But now I want you to be really candid.

716
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: Were the women at Tennessee easier to get with or

717
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: the women in Baltimore?

718
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: Be honest? What was it? Where did you have the

719
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: most success?

720
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Speaker 5: I think Tennessee was like a stock pond.

721
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Speaker 2: You just can you elaborate please?

722
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: They were just a little easier because Baltimore that women

723
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 3: want you for your money, this and that. In college,

724
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Speaker 3: they liked you just because you were the best player

725
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Speaker 3: on the team.

726
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Speaker 6: Baltimore was a little bit different, you know what I mean.

727
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 6: I was a little older, I was, I should say

728
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 6: I was a little older. I was a little bit smarter.

729
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 6: I had way more money than I had at Tennessee.

730
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 6: At Tennessee, I didn't have no money, so you know,

731
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 6: it was just it was just me and just running

732
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Speaker 6: football and and and wearing that orange and wearing the

733
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Speaker 6: block t on my back. But you know, college, I

734
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 6: can say it was just the best time of my life.

735
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Speaker 6: And uh, and and they have had some nice, you know,

736
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Speaker 6: some hot women at the University of Tennessee.

737
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Speaker 2: I must say, I bet they loved you.

738
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Speaker 3: In all the sorority houses, I would imagine that they

739
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: all loved you. So before you go, okay, can you

740
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Speaker 3: tell us we did talk about the partner a little bit.

741
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: But how did it even come up? How did you

742
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: get the pardon? Who connected you with it? I know

743
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: that there was a guy that kind of facilitated it,

744
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 3: So you can tell us how did it happen?

745
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: Did you have any idea?

746
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Speaker 5: No, nobody facilitated it. On my end, nobody facilitated.

747
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 6: I'd been trying to get a parton since twenty eleven

748
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 6: when I retired. I had been trying and I met

749
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 6: with different administrations. Everybody wanted money, Donate money here, donate

750
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 6: money there, and I was like, I'm not doing that

751
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 6: because my case is straight bogus. So I wasn't doing that.

752
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 6: And honestly, like I said, I just gave.

753
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 5: Up, you know. I was like, Hey, you know what

754
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 5: will be will be. Just live my life, you know,

755
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 5: to the fullest.

756
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Speaker 6: And I just got a call Thursday night from Alice

757
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 6: Johnson and she just said, Hey, I just you know.

758
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 5: I'm Alice Johnson, and I just want you to know

759
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 5: I just.

760
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 6: Met with the President and he just granted you a

761
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 6: full parton and I thought it was a joke honestly,

762
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 6: but she said, I've been advocating for you for a

763
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 6: while and we finally got it done and it was

764
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 6: just really God said I. That's all I can say

765
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 6: that it was because I was not expecting it. I

766
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 6: haven't put in an application, I haven't done any of

767
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 6: that stuff, and it just it just happened.

768
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 3: Well, it's just awesome. A guy that had so much

769
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: success on the football field. Now you can hold your

770
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 3: head up high and realize that you got no record,

771
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: your fresh and claim and any you know, attacks on

772
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: you are just stupid at this point. So before you go, though,

773
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 3: I want to ask you this question. People accuse Donald

774
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: Trump of being racist, and Donald Trump's not perfect.

775
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: I'm not perfect, You're not perfect.

776
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: I think they try to hold Donald Trump to an

777
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: unrealistic standard. But would you say that Donald Trump is

778
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: racist or not racist in your personal experience with a man?

779
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't.

780
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 6: I've never thought that he was racist. I never thought

781
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 6: he's racist. He's just he's a politician, you know. And

782
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 6: I know politicians and politicians are politicians. You know, they

783
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 6: go with their base. Uh, and they go with you know,

784
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 6: where where the numbers are. And I think they want

785
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 6: to appease their base. So uh, I think that's what

786
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 6: he that's what he does. He's just a smart businessman

787
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 6: and he's now a politician.

788
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 5: So uh.

789
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 6: But at the same time, hey, he put pay in

790
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 6: the paper for me. He listened to miss Alice Johnson. Uh,

791
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 6: and actually you know, took account of what my case was,

792
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 6: and and and and did me right.

793
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 3: Well, listen, we love Donald Trump, and God bless American,

794
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: God bless you. And actually I keep on saying this

795
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: the last question, So this is the last question in

796
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: your opinion with the society.

797
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: You got the boys saying that they're a girl.

798
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: Are you against biological men competing against women and women's sports?

799
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely.

800
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 6: I don't think that that's I just don't think that

801
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 6: that's that's right, especially if you you know, if if

802
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 6: you have the build of a man, and you know, uh,

803
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 6: the genetics of a man, uh, and you're going up

804
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 6: against women.

805
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 5: I just I don't think that's right.

806
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 6: You know, they maybe they should have their own category

807
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 6: and just going in that route.

808
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 5: But at the same time, it's just it's.

809
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 6: Not right, you know, for I think men to compete

810
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 6: with women, that's not that's not cool.

811
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Speaker 3: Well, to be honest though, I like it, Jamal because

812
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: I can gamble on the transgenders and win money. So

813
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: I actually want more transgenders and women's sports because they

814
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: give me a gambling edge. Well, Jamal, how can people

815
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: find you in support you now that you are fully pardoned.

816
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 3: You're the newest hottest man on the block. I mean,

817
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: I just love this for you, and I love this

818
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 3: for our country. But how can people support you, Jamal?

819
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Speaker 6: I'm at Jamal thirty one Lewis on Instagram, I'm at

820
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 6: Jamal thirty one Lewis on.

821
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Speaker 5: X and Hey, that's just me. That's it. That's where

822
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 5: you can find me.

823
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 6: I'm just down in Atlanta making it happen and just

824
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 6: you know, trying to get my son right so he

825
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 6: can play football and carry on his dreams. So that's

826
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 6: that's it. But at Jamal thirty one Lewis on Instagram

827
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 6: and Twitter.

828
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Speaker 3: Well, now I have to give you a little static though,

829
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 3: you know, in the black community, the fact that his

830
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: dad was one of the greatest running backs ever.

831
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 2: You got to be a little easy on your son.

832
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: That's a lot of pressure, you know what I mean.

833
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: You know, nobody's gonna rush your two thousand yards in

834
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: the season like that.

835
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: Has to be a little tough.

836
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 3: When your dad's Jamal lewis one of the biggest powerbacks

837
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: to ever play the game. Are you ever worried about

838
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: your putting a little undue pressure on him?

839
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 6: So he came to me and said that he wanted

840
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 6: to do this and that he wanted me to help him,

841
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 6: you know, accomplish his dreams and what he wanted to do.

842
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 6: So basically that means hard work and doing whatever I

843
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 6: roll out for you. I give you all the resources,

844
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 6: I'm gonna put you with all the right people, but

845
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 6: you got to work hard and get after it. So

846
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna let him slack because he wanted my

847
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 6: help and that's my help.

848
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: Well, God bless you, Jamal, you keep up the good work.

849
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: A good father, great player, And now he's got no

850
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: criminal records, so all the hate that they gave him

851
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 3: in the past, you guys can just a race at

852
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: Thank you, Jamal.

853
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you making time in joining the program.

854
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 5: Hey, thank you, Alex, appreciate it.

855
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: Talk to you again soon. All right, guys, what a

856
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: freaking legend.

857
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 3: I love that guy and he got what he deserved,

858
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: a full pardon because it was a BS bogus deal

859
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 3: anyway for making a phone call trying to set up

860
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: some people. It was just absolutely ludicrous when it happened.

861
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 3: And now he got the system and situation totally fixed.

862
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 3: What a lovely Wednesday night and such a special thanks

863
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: to the one the only, Jamal Lewis for joining us.

864
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: He is an NFL legend and is an honor to

865
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 3: get to talk to a guy that went out there

866
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: and laid his life on the line every single game.

867
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: So really appreciate you Jamal joining us. But we got

868
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 3: to talk about another athlete, one that is not a

869
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: professional athlete, that got beat up by two professional athletes

870
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: I think one technically professional athlete and one professional bodybuilder.

871
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Speaker 2: So Dean the Great is a YouTube boxer that does.

872
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: Influencing boxing influencer boxing, and I was actually on a

873
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: boxing match with him for Misfits, but I got kicked

874
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 3: off for throwing turkey dogs on my Muslim opponent. I

875
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: didn't throw pork dogs, but they tried to label me

876
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 3: as doing that. I didn't want to see that insensitive.

877
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: But Dean was acting at this boxing match like he

878
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: was the coolest guy in the world. I had never

879
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: even heard of Dean the Great. I was like, who

880
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 3: is Dean?

881
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: Dean the Nobody's what we should have called him. But

882
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: apparently he.

883
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 3: Does have a big social media following. I don't watch

884
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: his clips. I have no idea what kind of content

885
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: he creates. But over the weekend he created some of

886
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: the best content I've ever seen in my life where

887
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: he was recently assaulted.

888
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: But not one huge Jacks guy, but two huge jack guys.

889
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: So let's play the clip of him interacting with bodybuilder

890
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: Larry Wheeler's wife or girlfriend, not.

891
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: Even quite sure.

892
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 3: It's kind of ambiguous, but his lady to say the least.

893
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 3: And he starts talking a little fresh and Larry puts

894
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 3: him in check.

895
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 5: The king like that, you know why we got you?

896
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 6: I know, I know we streaming behind Henry Seat. He's been,

897
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 6: he's been, We're doing.

898
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 3: Listen you guys to get you Now.

899
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: That's a slap heard round the internet. I loved it.

900
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: You talk to a man's wife like that, you deserve

901
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: to get slapped, And I'm happy that he didn't press charges.

902
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: It just proves that he's not a total baby back Bach.

903
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: But at the same exact time, I don't think he

904
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: learned his lesson because shortly later on that evening, he

905
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: gets knocked out by UFC legend Tiki Ghoson. In this

906
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: video that we're playing right here. This is kind of

907
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: actually hard to watch because bam, I mean, he clocks

908
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: him right in the jaw and he goes to elite.

909
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 2: So Dean the Great is lucky to be Dean the alive.

910
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't seem like he's gonna make it

911
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: much longer going around and talking to these these combat

912
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: athletes like this, And on top of that, he had

913
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: a UFC Hall of Famer Rampage Jackson right there in

914
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: his ear telling him to shut up. So could you

915
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: imagine a trifecta of Tiki Gohsen, bodybuilder Larry Wheeler, and

916
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: then on top of that getting hit by Rampage Jackson.

917
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: I do not think your life expectancy is going to

918
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 3: be much longer if you continue to start static like this.

919
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: All right, Dean the Great. You need to be like

920
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: Dean the Chill, Dean the Relaxed, not Dean the Great,

921
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: because you got your ass kicked multiple times on camera

922
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 3: in front of millions and millions of people.

923
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: So maybe boxing and fighting.

924
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: Is not the best route for you unless you have

925
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: a humiliation fetish and you like getting hit like this.

926
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: I hope that's not the case.

927
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of a humiliation fetish brings us to our

928
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 3: next victim of this humiliation ritual that a lot of

929
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 3: celebrities are going going through.

930
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: Whoopy Goldberg.

931
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 3: That's right, Whoopy Goldberg was on the Epstein Files, but

932
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: not for what you think. She wasn't trying to go

933
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 3: to the island to try to eat babies or something.

934
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: She is just a cheapskate and doesn't like to fly.

935
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: So she had one of her representatives reach out to

936
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein in twenty thirteen, after he was originally convicted

937
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: for being a child predator, asking if she could use

938
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: his jet to go to a charity event for Julianne Lennon.

939
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 3: I guess that's John Lennon's son or daughter. I don't know,

940
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: I don't even care. But what's so funny about this?

941
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: Interaction. Is that. Jeffrey Epstein said no.

942
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: Maybe it's because she's like sixty years old and you

943
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: know she's out of his age market. But I think

944
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: it's just because she's an annoying black woman that just

945
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: won't ever shut the hell up.

946
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: But let's watch this clip of.

947
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: Her embarrassingly trying to handway this like it's no big deal.

948
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 7: My name is in the files, yes, and what does

949
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 7: it say? It says what we needs a plan to

950
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 7: get to Monaco John Lennon's charity. It should say Julian

951
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 7: Lennon's charity is paying for it.

952
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: In other words, anybody can be on that. Anybody.

953
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 7: Well, this is my point because I'm telling you when

954
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 7: I tell you, people are trying to turn me into

955
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 7: I wasn't his girlfriend.

956
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 4: I was.

957
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: You were try for him.

958
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 7: I was not only too old, but it was at

959
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 7: a time you know where this is just not You

960
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 7: used to have to have facts before you said stuff.

961
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 3: So WHOOPI Goldberg was denied a free ride on the

962
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein Lolita Express, and I think that is good.

963
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: And I do want to defend Wiope because it is

964
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: possible that you could have interacted with Jeffrey Epstein, and

965
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 3: that doesn't make your child predator. Actually, I'd imagine that

966
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: probably the most of the people that actually interact with

967
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein on an everyday basis or just three emails

968
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 3: that were just kind of you know, friends with him,

969
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: probably was not on the island doing discussing things. But

970
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: if you do look at the email leaks, there's people

971
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: that are sending coded words and talking very nefariously. Now

972
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 3: those are the people that I think we need to

973
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 3: go after, not the ones that are asking to ride

974
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: on the private jet and just trying to you know,

975
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 3: mooch off a rich guy.

976
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: Is that a crime.

977
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 3: No should be arrested, probably just because she's Whoopie Goldberg.

978
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: But just remember that we have to look at this

979
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: all with a grain of salt and realize that not

980
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: every single person that Jeffrey Epstein interacted with was a pedophile.

981
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: That would be insane if that was possible, and it's not.

982
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: But people like Woopy Goldberg are getting absolutely humiliated. And

983
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, I love it, I like it,

984
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 3: I want more of it. So we need more people humiliated,

985
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: especial especially the celebrities, because we give them way too

986
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: much gravitas. We treat them and put them on a

987
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: pedestal that they don't deserve to be on. So seeing

988
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: them get cut down a ring or two, it helps

989
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: me sleep at night. And maybe that's just because I'm

990
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: a sick person. But you know what, misery loves company,

991
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 3: Isn't that what they say? Speaking of a great company

992
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 3: that once was sixty minutes, sixty minutes has gone downhill.

993
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 3: Anderson Cooper is now saying that he's no longer going

994
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 3: to be on the show. I'm sure nobody even cares.

995
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: I mean, Anderson Cooper is the biggest NEPO baby in

996
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 3: the world. His mom was Gloria Vanderbilt, who's a multi

997
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 3: multi millionaire. But he's I think it was his sibling.

998
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 3: His brother or sister died under mysterious circumstances, So you

999
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 3: know that is challenging as a young kid. Nobody should

1000
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: have to lose a family member. But I would like

1001
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: to throw my name in the hat if sixty minutes

1002
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: is looking for a great host. Not that I want

1003
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: to leave her av I would not leave this show.

1004
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: This show is staying put. But my point is, if

1005
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 3: you guys want to do some one off bits. I

1006
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: think I can return sixty minutes to the greatness that

1007
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: it once was. And this clip that I'm about to

1008
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 3: play from sixty Minutes is what I would be doing

1009
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 3: every single episode.

1010
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: Let's play it.

1011
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: They also studied the way gay and straight people talk.

1012
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: It's nice to meet you, sounds straight to me and

1013
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 2: is straight.

1014
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 5: It's nice to meet you if you want to go have.

1015
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 2: A drink, okay, and she was that's right. That guy

1016
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: was the gay one.

1017
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 3: And that's what we want as American citizens, as American

1018
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: viewers of sixty Minutes.

1019
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: We want to go back to exposing people of being

1020
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: gay or not.

1021
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 3: That is the type of TV that I want to see,

1022
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: and that's the type of TV I'm gonna give you

1023
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 3: on this show. So I know sixty Minutes is not

1024
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: going to hire me to go and do you know

1025
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: gay to our experiments, but if they did, I could

1026
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 3: restore sixty minutes back to the greatness that it once was. Sadly,

1027
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: it's probably not gonna happen. But luckily we have a

1028
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: great team here at Real America's Voice, Robert and Parker Sigg,

1029
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: a great family owned organization to help me become bigger

1030
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: and stronger than sixty minutes ever was so on our

1031
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 3: next episode, we are going to be exposing gay people.

1032
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: If you're gay, we're going to play a clip of you,

1033
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 3: and we're gonna have our guests and me decide and

1034
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 3: guess what. We're not going to get it wrong because

1035
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: it's too easy to tell.

1036
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: Well, thank you guys so much for watching.

1037
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 3: Thank you to Jamal Lewis for joining us, and AOC

1038
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: I miss you, babe. Call me when you get a chance,

1039
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 3: because they're probably going to be vice presd it and

1040
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna have to support you. So amnesty for

1041
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 3: all big booty Latinas. I'm part time alex Stein. Peace

1042
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 3: and have a good night.

1043
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:10,120
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