1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Well, we still have no speaker in the House. That 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: is something that should make you angry because there are 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: idiot Republicans that are continuing to screw the American people 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: in the will of the people to give us a 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: speaker that we all want. That speaker was to be 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan, and who stopped it, not Democrats but Republicans. 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: What happens next, no one knows. There's a lot of 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: different theories out there of will we pick a guy 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: that everyone can agree on, will the Democrats end up 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: helping with a couple Republicans choose who the next speaker 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: will be. And there are important issues that are going 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: on in Washington and investigations that are happening, and a 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: war between Israel and terrorists that desperately need to be 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: dealt with, and the Republican Party still doesn't have a 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House. This is a disaster. Now I 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: want to move from that because there's other big news 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: that happened. This is news that came out on Friday 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: that is significant. House Oversight Committee Chairman Representative James Comer 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: offered an update on a report of a two hundred 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: thousand dollars check a payment to President Joe Biden from 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: his brother Jim Biden. In the memo line it said 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: loan reimbursement. Were there any loan papers connected to this? No, not, 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: from what we understand. Was this a way of funneling 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: money to the President of United States of America? 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: The big guy. Absolutely. 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: James Comer went on Hannity to explain what they found 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: in this investigation. Now, this is the first time that 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: we've had direct linkage and proof of hundreds of thousands 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: of dollars going into the bank account of Joe Biden 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: from the Biden crime family business. Listen to what James 31 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Comer said. Now, please take what I'm giving you, share 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: this podcast wherever you are on social media. 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: Hit that little forward button. 34 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: Share it so other people hear this, because the media 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: is not wanting you to understand. This is so much 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: bigger than Watergate. This is so much bigger than anything 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: we've seen before. This is time direct payments to the 38 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: President of the United States of America from bad actors 39 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: around the world. 40 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: Listen. 41 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer has released new evidence 42 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: today in his investigation into the Biden family syndicate, their 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: business dealings and this is a bombshell. Take a look 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: at this. That is a check from Jim Biden, that is, Joe, 45 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: Biden's brother, to Joe, for a whopping two hundred thousand dollars. 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: And this very check was written on the exact same 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: day that Jim allegedly got a quote loan from a 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: failing hospital company for the exact same amount of money. 49 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: We did reach out to the parties involved for comment, 50 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 3: and shockingly we didn't hear back. But clearly this news 51 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: is creating some panic inside the Biden Whitehouse. Tonight, want 52 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: of Biden's press Underling's rush to make sure that everybody 53 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: knows the check clearly says it was a loan repayment 54 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: from Jim to Joe. But if that's true, it unlocks 55 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: a whole new host of questions. Why did Joe loan 56 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: Jim two hundred grand in the first place? Question two? 57 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: How did Joe, admittedly one of the poorest members of 58 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: the Senate, a career public servant, how did he have 59 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: and was able to? I was he able to afford 60 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: to give that amount of money to his brother? And 61 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: why did Jim need to be paid by someone else 62 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: before he could repay Joe he went to details House 63 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: Oversight and Accountability Committee Chair James Comer's with us, and 64 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: by the way, correct me if I'm wrong, and maybe 65 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: I'm jumping ahead. You have other new evidence that we 66 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: expect next week that'll show something similar. 67 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, we found a lot of suspicious checks that the 68 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 4: brother was involved in and Joe was a beneficiaria of 69 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: and we're going to talk about that as we move on. 70 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: But what we're doing is we're tracing the money. 71 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: Sean. 72 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: It's not just that they got a two hundred thousand 73 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 4: dollars payment that Joe Biden received a two hundre thousand 74 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 4: dollar baby, it's where the money came from. And the 75 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: money came from Jim Biden where he influenced pedaled to 76 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 4: a company in the United States that he went and 77 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: said that he could help, through his brother's contacts, get 78 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 4: capital from the Middle East. So he convinced this company 79 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: to give him six hundred thousand dollars and they did 80 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 4: it in increments. The last increment was two hundred thousand dollars. 81 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: That two hundred thousand dollars then went to Jim Biden's 82 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: personal account and it was a loan. According to the 83 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: way Jim Biden deposited, and then he wrote on the 84 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: same day a check to Joe Biden for a loan repayment. 85 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 4: Now they're playing the loan card a lot. Remember the 86 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars wire that we identified 87 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: three weeks ago that came from China to Hunter Biden, 88 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: that was addressed to Joe Biden's house. The White House 89 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 4: said that was a loan too. Sean, you're going to 90 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 4: be hearing out of the White House over the next 91 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 4: few weeks. Is loan loan? Loan? And look, even if 92 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: Joe Biden did give his brother a loan, which I 93 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 4: don't believe he did, the fact that his brother defrauded 94 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 4: a company that is now bankrupt and all the creditors 95 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: lost all their money that they invested in this or 96 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: loan to this healthcare company, But Joe Biden got two 97 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars from him before they went bankrupt, all 98 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 4: because Jim Biden was selling the brand, was selling the 99 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: Biden name, and convinced people to pay money in exchange 100 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 4: for favors from Joe Biden. 101 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: Wouldn't you have to have a record of when you 102 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: gave the loan and wouldn't that bank record exists as well. 103 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: Have you been able to find that? 104 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 4: Well, we just announced a check today and we've asked 105 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: the White House to produce documentation of the loan, the 106 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 4: terms of the loan. And we also want to know 107 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 4: from Joe Biden. Was he aware when he took that 108 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 4: two hundred thousand dollars that it came from a company 109 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 4: his brother defrauded in the name of Joe Biden, that 110 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 4: Joe Biden could come in and save the day through 111 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 4: his contacts in the Middle East. John That's where this 112 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: influence pedling scheme came. We've talked about China, Romania, Russia, Ukraine, 113 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: now we're talking about the Middle East. We've talked about 114 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 4: Hunter Biden. Now we're on to Jim Biden. We've been 115 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 4: following the money. We're going to continue to follow the money, 116 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 4: but more and more suspicious activity is popping up everywhere 117 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: to the tunes of millions and millions of dollars from 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 4: the Biden family. And now we have evidence that Joe 119 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 4: Biden benefited directly from this. If his brother hadn't defrauded 120 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 4: that company through the influence peddling scheme, he never could 121 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: have paid Joe Biden back that two hundred thousand dollars. 122 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: Assuming Joe Biden really loaned him two hundred thousand dollars, 123 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: which I'm not convinced that he did, would. 124 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: It be a fair assessment. In the next couple of weeks, 125 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: there'll be a cascading amount of devastating evidence like this 126 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: that proves that by following the money, that everything Joe 127 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: Biden said about his involvement and all of this is false. 128 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: Is that a fair statement. 129 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: Look, I think we continue to produce evidence. I think 130 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: we've already produced a lot of evidence. But the media says, well, 131 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 4: you got to have a payment to Joe. Well, here 132 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 4: we go, here's the first payment to Joe. Stay tuned, Sean. 133 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: Stay tuned. Let me tell you this. 134 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: I've talked to several people that are around this investigation 135 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: in Washington this week when I was in DC. This 136 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: is not going to be the only check. This is 137 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: not going to be the only payment. And the other 138 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: part of this understanding of these quote loans is the 139 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: White House is describing it away. The Biden crime family 140 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: is describing away. Joe Biden's brother, Jim Biden, is far 141 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: more wealthy on paper, than Joe Biden has ever been 142 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: Jimmy all right, Jim Biden, the President's brother, is a lobbyist, 143 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: That's what he is. He's a foreign agent that never registered, 144 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: That's what he is. He's had millions and millions and 145 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: millions and millions coming into. 146 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: His bank account. 147 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: Did the President's brother, Jim Biden need two hundred thousand 148 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: dollars from Joe? 149 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: Was he down and out? 150 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 5: No? 151 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: And the other thing is is think about two hundred 152 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: thousand dollars loan, personal loan. Jim Biden had plenty of cash. 153 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: Jim Biden had plenty of connections with banking. We know 154 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: that Jim Biden could have gone to any bank gotten 155 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: a loan for two hundred thousand dollars if he actually 156 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: needed two hundred thousand dollars. He didn't need two undred 157 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. This was money laundering. This is how the 158 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: mob does money laundering. This is all the earmarks of 159 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: of laundering cash to the President of the United States 160 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: of America. Now the documentation that you would need to 161 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: prove that you have this many loans happening on a 162 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: regular basis, right, where hey, I need two hundred thousand, No, problem, brother, 163 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: I'll send it to you right now. Hey, I need 164 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: another one hundred and fifty one eighty. I need four 165 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: hundred form a guy that has more money than you do. 166 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: If Jim Biden called Joe Biden said hey, brother, I 167 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: need to borrow two undre k in a real world, 168 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: you'd be like, hey, man, why you're richer than I am? 169 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: Why do you need me to give you a measly 170 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: two hundred Because to Jim Biden, two hundred thousand dollars 171 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: is not allow of money. Because Jim Biden is rich, 172 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: richer than the president has ever been on paper. Could 173 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: he get loans if he needed loans for two hundred thousand, 174 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: of course he could. This isn't a loan, folks, this 175 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: is money laundering. This is the ten percent for the 176 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: big guy money. And you need to share it because 177 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: the media will not cover this. We have payments to 178 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: a sitting president that compromises our national security, It compromises 179 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: our country, it compromises the presidency. A compromise is this 180 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: entire family to blackmail, and we have proof of it. Now, 181 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: I promise you we're going to keep following this issue, 182 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: and there's going to be a hell of a lot 183 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: that comes out of the next few weeks, and make 184 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: sure you subscribe, hit that download button so that you 185 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: know and don't miss an episode. 186 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: On the Biden Crime Family. 187 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: Now, I want to pivot to some other big news 188 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: the day, and I want to bring in a good 189 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: friend of mine, Bill O'Reilly. He's got a new book 190 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: that is out Killing the Witches. It's going to be 191 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: another bestseller for him. He does this series, it's incredible, 192 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: But I want to talk about some of. 193 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: The big issues of the day. 194 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: Bill, as a pleasure. I love having you on. I 195 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: love having you on when your books come out. I 196 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: want to ask you a question though, about the coverage 197 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: that the media has been putting out there about this 198 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: attack on this hospital in Israel. They all got it wrong. 199 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: The headlines show just how anti Semitic they are BBC, CNN, 200 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: NBC News, MSNBC. They're all out there New York Times 201 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,239 Speaker 1: saying Israel bomb a hospital. 202 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: They didn't. 203 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: The hospital wasn't even directly hit. There was not five 204 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: hundred dead, four hundred dead, three hundred dead. Yet they're 205 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: not retracting their stories. You ever, she'd Talib, who's out 206 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: there in DC yesterday, getting all this anti semitism fired up, 207 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: saying that they bombed the hospital, even after she knows 208 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: she's lying. 209 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: And yet we have. 210 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: A media that is still saying, well, it's not you know, Okay, 211 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: maybe they didn't do it. However, it could have happened 212 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: by Israel. So it wasn't that crazy to go down 213 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: this road. It wasn't that nuts to say they probably 214 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: did it, even though they didn't do it. I've never 215 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: seen so much anti semitism come from the media at 216 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: one time. 217 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: Your reaction. 218 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 5: I did the Message of the Day on Billowilly dot 219 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 5: com and we would love to have your listeners go 220 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 5: there every day and I have a message you can 221 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 5: read it. It's free, and this on this topic. So 222 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 5: it's more about incompetence and anti semitism in the corporate 223 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 5: media America. They don't know what they're doing. I was 224 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 5: on News Nation last night with Chris Cuomo, and I 225 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 5: spelled out every major news organization that misreported the hospital story. 226 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 5: And they're the biggest offree networks, AP, New York Times, 227 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 5: Washington Post. These people that run these news operations number 228 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 5: one are almost one hundred percent leftists. And I don't 229 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 5: say that, you know, people go, oh, you're you know, 230 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 5: liberal people are bet and that's not what I'm doing here. 231 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 5: I know who's running these operations. So number one, they 232 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 5: are liberal people. They don't have a favorable view generally 233 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 5: speaking of Israel. But the biggest problem is they don't 234 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 5: know what they're doing. They don't know how to report 235 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 5: stories when the facts are foggy. You can do it. 236 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 5: All you got to do is so simple. You have 237 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: to say, there's a hospital in Gaza that was hit 238 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 5: by a rocket. Those are the initial reports we're getting. 239 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 5: Both sides are accusing the other. That's it. You don't 240 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 5: need to take one side. Everybody knows that anything out 241 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 5: coming out of Gaza is coming out of Hamask because 242 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 5: Hamas runs Gaza. But they don't do that. And then 243 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 5: you have this area now on a political front. Last 244 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 5: night on the Nospinoos and that's on Billoreilly dot com, 245 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 5: that's our TV broadcast, I said, look, any congress person, 246 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 5: whether it's to Leeb or Omar or Cossio quite anybody 247 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 5: who is misreporting what's happening in Israel and Gaza should 248 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 5: be then brought in front of the House Ethics Committee 249 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 5: because what they're doing is fostering violence, and that would 250 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 5: put an end to this. So I put to leave 251 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 5: and today an ethics investigation in the house on her nick, 252 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 5: because we got to stop this madness. Man, you know that. 253 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: Look at what she said yesterday afternoon as there were 254 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: people getting arrested. I was in DC and it was 255 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: it was incredibly hostile. You had people basically been barding 256 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: into house office buildings. You had people arrested as they 257 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: were occupying. Uh that the chambers out, you know, in 258 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: the in the in the rotunda. Don't worry, there won't 259 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: be a January sixth investigation in this. This is normal. 260 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: But she sobbed out there when she lied, knowing that 261 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: this story she was telling is a lie. She's a 262 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: propagandist for Hamas. Here's what she said, in her own words. 263 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 6: I think it's okay to Obama hospital. 264 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: With children. 265 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 6: You know what's so hard sometimes is watching those videos 266 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 6: and and the people telling the kids don't cry, and 267 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 6: like let them. 268 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: Cry, and they're shaking, and somebody you know this, the 269 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: kids telling them not to cry in Arabic, they could cry. 270 00:14:59,200 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: I could cry. 271 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 6: If we're not crying, something is wrong. 272 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: And so I'm. 273 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: Telling you right now, President Biden, go to. 274 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 7: Have America's with you on this one, and you need 275 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 7: to make it and understand that. 276 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you hear that Bill. She knows everything she's 277 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: saying right, there's a lie. She knows it's all propaganda, 278 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: and yet she's doing it anyway. 279 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 5: Well, then she should be the subject of a House 280 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 5: Ethics and kitchen. Republicans control the House, they can make 281 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 5: that happen in a fingersnap. And the other thing is 282 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 5: the people in her district keep voting her back in. 283 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 5: Was it the only avenue to punish this woman is 284 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 5: the Ethics Committee in the House. That's it. 285 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: You look at where we are in the world. You 286 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: look at what's happening in Germany right now. There's a 287 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: lot of protests that are happening there, chaos in many 288 00:15:54,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: cities over last night, major protests happening anti Israel protests. 289 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: Is this a moment in our history where you go, 290 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: did we learn nothing from the Holocaust? 291 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: And also did we learn nothing? 292 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 4: Bill? 293 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: From nine to eleven? And I say that because we 294 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: have a wide open border. We have I mean wide 295 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: open border. Right now, we have more people that been 296 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: caught on the Tarrists watch list this year than the 297 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: last five years combined. We have a wide open border. 298 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: Did we learn nothing from history? 299 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 5: Well, obviously the Biden administration has not. They're entirely responsible 300 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 5: for the open border. So in the election of twenty four, 301 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 5: Joe Biden should not get one vote. He should be 302 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 5: shut out if the American voters were rational. But the 303 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 5: poison of ideology has seeped into a significant part of 304 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 5: our population. And that's what you're seeing. So they don't 305 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 5: care about the Holocaust, or they don't care about nine 306 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 5: to eleven. They're progressives. Progressives hate Israel, so they're going 307 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 5: to hate Israel. I mean, you got to break it 308 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 5: down to its simplest component, because that's what it is. 309 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 5: These aren't rational people. They don't know anything. You think 310 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 5: o Cassio Cortez knows anything? How long? Then you think 311 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 5: she could sit for an interview with me. 312 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: Fifty seconds and the question would be thirty. 313 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 5: Of that the first round knockout and it wouldn't even 314 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 5: be it would be like a minute and a half. Yeah, 315 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 5: she doesn't know anything, but the people in the Bronx 316 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 5: voter in and that's just what it is. So There's 317 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 5: always been that way in our history. We've always had 318 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 5: villains and stupid people elected. And you just have to 319 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 5: hope that most voters start to see the light and 320 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 5: there's a repudiation of the Democrat progressive movement next this, 321 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 5: you know, November twenty fourth. 322 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad. 323 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: Yesterday I was in an elevator with Fetterman in Congress 324 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: and He's said there in his car heart jacket, and 325 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there, going, is this really where we 326 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: are as a country. We've got this guy who's in 327 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: the United Country, I mean this, and I'm sitting there 328 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at him. I'm like, you're and we 329 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: were chatting, but I'm like, this is who's the United 330 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: States Senator? 331 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 5: Now? 332 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: Like this is what we've got. This is the best 333 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: we can send to Washington. Is a guy that's wearing 334 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: car hearts, that walks the edge of the Senate chamber, 335 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: looks at the guy at the red desk and does 336 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: the thumbs down so he didn't even have to walk 337 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: into the Senate because he doesn't want to put on 338 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: a suit. It's unbelievable that this is the United States 339 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: of America right now. 340 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 5: Well, people in Pennsylvania voted him in. 341 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's system. 342 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk about history for a second. Another one of 343 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: your books is gonna be another best seller. I'm sure 344 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: you're on a roll here. And if you've never gotten 345 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: into the Killing books that you'd put out, they're incredible. 346 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: Killing the Witches the Horrors of Salem, Massachusetts. The timing 347 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: of this is is pretty interesting right now, especially with 348 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: everything you and I just talked about. Talk a little 349 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: bit about this book, what you're going to get in it, 350 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: and it's a great book to give, especially during the holidays. 351 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, in Halloween, the best Halloween book ever, with apologies 352 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 5: that you're o in bo So, Killing the Witches is 353 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 5: the thirteenth Killing Book, the most successful nonfiction book series 354 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 5: on the planet of all time. And I chose to 355 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 5: write about this topic because the witch hunt of sixteen 356 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 5: ninety two in the Massachusetts Bay colony of Salem is back. 357 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 5: The witch hunt today is called cancel culture, and the 358 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 5: similarities between what happened back in Salem and what are 359 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 5: happening now are startling. No due process, All accusations are convictions. Now. 360 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: We're not hanging people anymore, but we were destroying their lives, 361 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 5: and we have in the back half of Killing the 362 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 5: Witch's studies. I tell you, look at this woman, look 363 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 5: at this guy. Lives are ruined because of this witch hunt, 364 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 5: this cancel culture. But the real horror of what happened 365 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 5: way back in sixteen ninety two, most Americans have no 366 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 5: blank and clue been. This was mass murder sanctioned by 367 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 5: the Puritan ministers and the corrupt judges. And it was harrowing, 368 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 5: and it was driven by little girls, young girls who 369 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 5: would pointed adults and go, oh, this person came to 370 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 5: me and the night made me sign the Devil's book. 371 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 5: You know, crazy stuff. And then two weeks later the present, 372 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 5: I have a rope around in neck. So Americans have 373 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 5: heard about it, but they don't know about it, and 374 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 5: then they don't know how every technique used in Salem 375 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 5: is now being used again in the United States twenty 376 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 5: twenty three. And in between we tell you you know, 377 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 5: and my books like fly By, if you start to 378 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 5: read this book, you're going to stay up late. It's 379 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 5: a scary book, uh, and very operaple for Halloween season. 380 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: Well, when you look at and you write these books 381 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: and it's history, but you look at the repeat of 382 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: history and how quickly we forget and just completely blow 383 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,239 Speaker 1: by what we should have learned in the past. And 384 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: you talk about this book now. I mean, hell, look 385 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: at what's happening even with Trump. He's guilty of everything 386 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: now because we want to we want to, you know, 387 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: get rid of him. We want to imprison him, we 388 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: want to make him ineligible to run for office again, 389 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: we want to gag order him. 390 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: Now it's election interference. Clearly. 391 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: You look at all that, you would think that we 392 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: would have better checks and balances. But when you have 393 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: rogue activists who become attorneys of you know, general's estates 394 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: and district attorneys and things like that, you get where 395 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: we are now. Is there any going to be a 396 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: course correction? 397 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 2: Are you fray? 398 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: We're so far gone now that we've weaponized our judicial system. 399 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 5: I think you couldn't be a course direction in America. 400 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 5: But people are going to have to wise up, and 401 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 5: I think they are. I mean, you see the polling 402 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 5: shows that seventy percent of the American population things to 403 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 5: countries in the wrong direction. We'll do something about it, 404 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 5: you know, throw these people out, vote them out. So look, 405 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 5: the cancel culture is a terrible, terrible thing. And you 406 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 5: mentioned Trump. He uses the term witch hunt more than anybody. 407 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 5: And I ran into one of his guys last week 408 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 5: and I said, look, every time the foreigner presidences witch hunt, 409 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 5: can he just hold up the copy of Killing the Witches. 410 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 5: That would be great market. They really really appreciate it, 411 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 5: but I did. I'm a historian. We go up and 412 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 5: down in America. We've always done that since seventeen seventy six, 413 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 5: and I think we'll make a comeback. But you know 414 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 5: you can't guarantee. 415 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: That Killing the Witches. 416 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: It's an incredible book out now, great for the holiday season, 417 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: as always, Bill, Great to have you on, great to 418 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: chat with you. 419 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: Tell everybody again where they can find you. 420 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 5: Billolilly dot com is our nexus. We are the most 421 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 5: successful independent news agency in the world now to go 422 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 5: along with the best selling book series. So I'm real 423 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 5: pleased about how people are responding to us. And the 424 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 5: reason is we tell the truth. 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And I have many 461 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 6: Palestinians who live in my district and I'm hearing from 462 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 6: them regularly about how their families are affected who live 463 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 6: in the region. It's a terrible thing. But let me 464 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 6: just say that any missile that comes from someplace has 465 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 6: a return address, and if Israel is responding to that address, 466 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 6: then that's a shame that the Palestinians are using a 467 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 6: rumor to be using children and families as shields for 468 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 6: their missiles. Should we all try to know, first of all, 469 00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 6: avoid conflict the Hamas initiated this. So again this this 470 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 6: has to be something where we try to have the 471 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 6: two state solution that we have to support. We have 472 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 6: to support a boss and his role as leader there. 473 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 6: We have to support arm Doom to protect the Israelis 474 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 6: from the missiles. We have to support the Palestinians and 475 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 6: what they need. And we have to confer with the 476 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 6: Qataris who have told me over and over again that 477 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 6: Hamas is a humanitarian organization. Maybe they could use their 478 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 6: influence to. 479 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 4: Raist organization though correct to you. 480 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, we've had that discussion, and. 481 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: We've had that discussion. Kriteris has told me Hamas is 482 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: a humanitarian organization, maybe they can use their influence. That 483 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: was Nancy Pelosi's telling you that Hamas was a humanitarian organization. 484 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: Son of Hamas leader went on Fox News Channel today 485 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: to explain Hamas. Okay, this is the son of the 486 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: Hamas of Hamas leader, and he's saying to the world, 487 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: you need to understand what this is. 488 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 2: You need to understand this is my family. I understand 489 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: what they are. 490 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: So you got Pelosi who thought literally Hamas was a 491 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: humanitarian organization and now listen to the sun of a 492 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: Hamas leader by the name of Hassan tell you what 493 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 1: Hamas actually is. 494 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 8: Our next guest grew up on the West Bank, where 495 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 8: his father was a founding member of Hamas. He was 496 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 8: groomed to take a senior role before he turned on 497 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 8: the terrorist group in prison, spying for Israel, now converting 498 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 8: into Christianity, and ultimately seeking asylum in the US. Masaba 499 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 8: San returns to US now as he came a few 500 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 8: years ago, and now we got more than ever a. 501 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 8: Masaba's great to see you. We'd love to know the 502 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 8: insight of this group and how they were able to 503 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 8: pull off what they did October seventh. First, can you 504 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 8: tell the audience your background. People that didn't read your book. 505 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 7: You know, I was born at the heart of Hamas leadership, 506 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 7: you know, and I know them very well. They don't 507 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 7: care for the Pristinian people. They don't regard the life. 508 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 6: And I saw. 509 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 7: Their brutality firsthand back in nineteen ninety six when I 510 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 7: spent about a year and a half in Migido prison. 511 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 7: You know, they killed so many Palestinian people at that time, 512 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 7: and this is when I decided that I cannot be 513 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 7: together with this movement. In fact, I asked myself a question, 514 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 7: what if they become a ruling party at some point, 515 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 7: what will they do if they succeed in destroying Israel 516 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 7: and building their state, what will they do? They will 517 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 7: kill our people? And this was the first question, you 518 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 7: know that Actually I had to be honest with myself. 519 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 7: Even though Hamas gave me advantages, you know, I was 520 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 7: like a prince in that world. But I did not 521 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 7: like them, you know, and I turned against even my 522 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 7: own blood, you know, because this is how much I 523 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 7: did not like Hamas. And today, twenty five years later, 524 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 7: they are the rulers of Gaza, and we see what 525 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 7: they are capable of doing. 526 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 8: We saw what have it acts over seventh We saw 527 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 8: them do what they did to hold cause victims. They 528 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 8: now over two hundred hostages, murdered babies in their cribs, 529 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 8: and we see the horror of what they're capable of. 530 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 8: Now they've retreated back to Gaza and a ground incursion 531 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 8: is about to happen. Would you recommend Israel do this? 532 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 8: And what would they find when they go in? 533 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 7: Okay, First of all, we need to evacuate civilians as 534 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 7: much as we can. You know, this is an ugly 535 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 7: war and Israel did not start it, Hamas did. First 536 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 7: of all, we need to encourage civilians to go into Egypt, 537 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 7: possibly women and children, maybe men over fifty years old. 538 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 7: These need to get out of the picture, you know. 539 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 7: Then the strip need to be cut two pieces north 540 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 7: and south, two parts the northern part this is where 541 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 7: most of the tunnels are. We need to have a 542 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 7: solid siege, okay, for long enough to deplete the enemy 543 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 7: and to starve them. After that, we may need to 544 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 7: explore using gas. This is like sounds ruble, but I 545 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 7: don't see any other option. The tunnels are interconnected and 546 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 7: gas could be one of the solutions. But this has 547 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 7: to be in the right time. We cannot just rush 548 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 7: into Gaza. You know, there is no modern army that 549 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 7: is prepared for this type of war. And most importantly, 550 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 7: we need to get the civilians out of the picture. 551 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 7: As long as there are civilians there, then the operation 552 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 7: might be incomplete. 553 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 8: For Mussab, you also says it's almost impossible for us 554 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 8: to give aid to the Gaza Strip one hundred million 555 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 8: dollars We're about to give them and keep it away 556 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 8: from Hamas. Don't you you agree that that can't work. 557 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 7: Look after we destroy the tunnels, we need to finish 558 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 7: Hamas rule in Gaza strip this is priority number one. 559 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 7: Then we need to replace the regime, could be the 560 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 7: Parisian authority, could be the Egyptian government, could be Arably 561 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 7: League force. We need to replace their rule in Gaza. 562 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 7: After that we can talk about aid, but as of now, 563 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 7: sending any aid is a mistake. 564 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 8: So you also believe that this isn't about the Palestinians 565 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 8: fighting for their rights and their sovereignty. What is the 566 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 8: real mission of Hamas and what do they really think 567 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 8: of the Palestinian people. 568 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 7: You know, Hamas is not a national movement. Hamas is 569 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 7: a religious movement with a goal to establish an Islamic state. 570 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 7: They don't care for nationalism. Actually they are against nationalists. 571 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 7: But that's it. My understanding that they are using the 572 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 7: Palestinian cause only to achieve their goals. So the long 573 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 7: term goal, you know, transforming the Middle East and the 574 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 7: world into an Islamic state. This is Hamas' agendas and 575 00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 7: they are not heading. 576 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: By the way, So. 577 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 7: Hamas is serving foreign agendas. We're talking about Iran and 578 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 7: we're talking about Russia lately, Hamas serve those parties and 579 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 7: Iran takes them close to a billion dollars annually. Iran 580 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 7: is the real master in this picture. Hamas does not 581 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 7: serve the Personian people. Hamas serve Iran. Those are the 582 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 7: masters of Hamas. So they lie about nationalism that they 583 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 7: are a national movement and they care for the Personian people. 584 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: Look at them. 585 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 7: They are using Personian people as a human shield. We 586 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 7: need to free Gaza from Hamas. This is what Israel 587 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 7: is doing, is doing the Palestinian people the greatest fever 588 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 7: by bringing Hamas down. Then the Personian people they just 589 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 7: want to live a normal life. They don't want missiles 590 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 7: in the most populated area on Earth to be launched 591 00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 7: from under hospitals, from crowded areas and going source idol 592 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 7: and endangering the life of the entire population. 593 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: Who does that. 594 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 7: You've got to be insane to do such an operation, right. 595 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: And you're talking about your family. They used to have 596 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: to Your. 597 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 8: Family used to believe that, and you used to believe 598 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 8: that that was okay. But you don't. Musab now quickly 599 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 8: at the question. Around the globe and even in our capital, 600 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 8: people are protesting for Hamas. Uh they're saying for the 601 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 8: Israel to back off and stop with the air strikes. Well, 602 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 8: what do you say to those protesters? What is it 603 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 8: about their mindset? 604 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 7: Okay, listen, I cannot convince the entire world of truth 605 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 7: right now. People are emotional. They hate to see children dying, 606 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 7: even though you know Hamas is killing the people at 607 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 7: the hospital and we have evidence of that, but they 608 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 7: still blame Israel. People can't blame whoever they want, you know. 609 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 7: But now we have to concentrate. We have to focus. 610 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 7: Public opinion is very important, but unfortunately it's not the 611 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 7: time to win the public opinion. It's the time to 612 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 7: win the war against the most brutal terrorist organization living today. 613 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 7: You know, and later on when people look back at 614 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 7: the situation, they will understand what we were doing. We 615 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 7: should not be afraid of the public opinion. We have 616 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 7: to explain as much as we can, and you're doing 617 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 7: that now. We have to concentrate on our goals. 618 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 8: And Masab, that's why your perspective is so vital. 619 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: This is a man who is in Hamas, groomed to 620 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: be a leader in Hamas, whose father leader of Humas, 621 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: who left his own family, and he's telling you this 622 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: is who Amas is Believe him. When the Jihadis tell 623 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: you who they are, Believe them. When the Jihadis explain 624 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: to you what they what they are, just no, just 625 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: take them for their actions. When the Jihadis show you 626 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: what they do and what they believe, and that they 627 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: will behead children and women and take people Holocausts survivors, 628 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: and will be head infant, believe them. And yet you 629 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: have a president of the United States of America is 630 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: going to hold America hostage saying I'll give you some 631 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: money for some good stuff like border security if you 632 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: give me money that I demand for other things that 633 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 1: are not for the good of the country. 634 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: Don't forget. 635 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: Share this podcast with your family and friends, please, and 636 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: I will see you back here tomorrow.