Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room
Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the
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Speaker 1: your host, Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 2: Today is March twenty seventh, opening day of the Major
Speaker 2: League Baseball season, but it is actually twenty eight days
Speaker 2: away from the NFL Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Welcome
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Speaker 2: So we've got Zach Wolcheck, Brian brought us, Tommy Yurris
Speaker 2: Vox Lombardi. I'm Kyle Yeomans with Chris Beam in the back,
Speaker 2: Zack Scott his ranger stuff on. I've got my ranger
Speaker 2: stuff on, and Brian's all business. Got the draft party.
Speaker 3: For drafted boys. We got doing keep on rocking in
Speaker 3: twenty eight days away, one hundred and sixty two of these.
Speaker 3: There's a long way to go.
Speaker 4: So like y'all watch all of the baseball games, like
Speaker 4: y'all like watching the best ones?
Speaker 5: Do you wait to the playoffs?
Speaker 6: Just let's make sure it's not y'all here, because I'm
Speaker 6: with you I mean, I'm not watching.
Speaker 2: I think I think the right side of the table
Speaker 2: we watch. Yeah, we'll watch as many games as possible.
Speaker 4: If baseball highlights make me sleepy, the highlights the best
Speaker 4: what's the best plays in baseball make me sleepy?
Speaker 5: I go to bed when when it comes.
Speaker 4: I don't have the band with, you know, just trying
Speaker 4: to learn two hundred and fifty of these guys learning
Speaker 4: all the league guys. And I watched like boxing and
Speaker 4: all this other kind of stuff, and y'all talk about
Speaker 4: what's his.
Speaker 3: Name, Jacob deGrom, I asked, like a fantastic guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't even know the most wind healthy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, whin healthy? Best picture in base.
Speaker 5: I don't even know the fantastic.
Speaker 3: Fantastic is not American in baseball.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even he could be braziving.
Speaker 3: I don't know Japanese.
Speaker 4: Yeah, congratulations, here, here we'll go ahead.
Speaker 3: Hey, well we got we had some crossovers. Doc Peterson
Speaker 3: was a wide receiver with Davante Adams in high school. Dude,
Speaker 3: I appreciate you trying to crush it in. Yeah, so hey,
Speaker 3: now we're full circle bash.
Speaker 5: He was over, he was w or.
Speaker 2: He was a wide receiver one over DeVante Adams in
Speaker 2: high school.
Speaker 5: Well, coaches suck at this, they don't understand.
Speaker 3: So if somebody goes down to the Cowboys, we just
Speaker 3: go across the street. Doc Peterson can play a game
Speaker 3: for you. Yeah, there you go, although he might need
Speaker 3: drop a little man.
Speaker 5: Twenty seven days to the draft. Boy, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Twenty eight eight. Well, what we did have we had
Speaker 3: a little road trip from Tommy Yarish on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Tommy was down at the Texas Pro Day where, I
Speaker 2: mean we were talking about it on Tuesday as well,
Speaker 2: what day would we want to go to and vatch?
Speaker 2: You said you would have just opened up the passenger
Speaker 2: side door and gotten in the passengers with Tommy rode
Speaker 2: on down there to Austin.
Speaker 3: Yes, I would have taken you.
Speaker 4: We would have been listening to old Lil Wayne cash
Speaker 4: Money rick Is on the way to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no problem with that. I mean, I'm all
Speaker 3: for that.
Speaker 5: I'm just influenced fluence.
Speaker 6: I'm just they're just convincing me that we that I
Speaker 6: should have shot you a textan advited you earlier.
Speaker 5: What happened to me because it was smile he was
Speaker 5: walking what happened.
Speaker 3: To Tommy was right, it was.
Speaker 6: It was nice to be home, but no, of course,
Speaker 6: just seeing there, going there to see you know, Alfred Collins.
Speaker 6: Quen you were, was Matthew Golden, those kinds of guys
Speaker 6: John A Barons of the world, just because you know,
Speaker 6: the Texas had twenty one guys, but it's that upper
Speaker 6: echelon of guys that you know, you really take it,
Speaker 6: take an eye on. Alfred Collins had a boot on
Speaker 6: his left leg. Texas spokesperson told me that, you know,
Speaker 6: they go ask, go ask his people what's going on there,
Speaker 6: But Jane Slater reported that it wasn't anything serious. And
Speaker 6: you know Texas in the past is typically put boots
Speaker 6: on guys as a precautionary measure. They did it with
Speaker 6: Xavier Worthy in the Big twelve Championship game a couple
Speaker 6: of years ago. So I don't know if that's something
Speaker 6: that drastically changes his dralf injury, right calf injury. Thank you,
Speaker 6: Matthew Golden. Is Matthew Golden. He looked the part really.
Speaker 6: Chris running his routes, didn't run a forty, but he
Speaker 6: he caught passes from quinn Ewers and you know what
Speaker 6: so impressed about him is he's got strong hands. As
Speaker 6: soon as the ball hits his hands, it doesn't move.
Speaker 6: He only dropped one pass and it was over the shoulder.
Speaker 6: He's having to look you know up. It's it's just
Speaker 6: a tough play to make.
Speaker 3: But that was it. Otherwise he was great.
Speaker 6: Uh Jaden Blue, Brian, I know you're big on him,
Speaker 6: looked let me some Blue looked much faster this time around.
Speaker 6: And S said he had a groin injury at the combine,
Speaker 6: so that's why that time was maybe something that people
Speaker 6: didn't expect. Unofficially, he was clocking in around the four
Speaker 6: two five, four two eight range, is what he told
Speaker 6: us after that. Andrew mccooba the safety that I know
Speaker 6: we've talked about a little bit on the show.
Speaker 3: I know you're big on him. Watch he's getting a.
Speaker 6: Thirty visit Cowboys, So that's going to be an interesting
Speaker 6: one to watch, just because safety is not one that
Speaker 6: we've really talked about much here.
Speaker 3: But he's a really good player.
Speaker 4: What does that mean for us, like for like Dallas right, Like,
Speaker 4: does that mean that we're into safety now or we're
Speaker 4: just into Andrew?
Speaker 5: Like, what does that mean?
Speaker 6: Not necessarily if it's it's more into Andrew, it might
Speaker 6: just be, hey, we want to do some more research
Speaker 6: on this guy because we didn't get to talk to
Speaker 6: him at the Combine or we can talk to him
Speaker 6: at the Senior Bowl. So I don't know if it's
Speaker 6: always necessarily a measure of interest as much as it is. Okay,
Speaker 6: we're trying to figure out who we've got here, not
Speaker 6: just as a player, but as a person. How does
Speaker 6: he fit, you know, into our culture? And how how
Speaker 6: smart is he? How does he understand the game? And
Speaker 6: then let's see I see something real.
Speaker 7: Quick about how could you not watch watch Brian Branch
Speaker 7: from the Lions and not think about a guy that can.
Speaker 3: Cover, who can play sat, can play free, can play
Speaker 3: with range, can tackle all that.
Speaker 7: I mean to me, I'm very interested in a guy
Speaker 7: like that, regardless. I'm just trying to I don't know, how,
Speaker 7: like you watch this guy cover you. I mean, he's
Speaker 7: one of the best safeties in the country when it
Speaker 7: comes to denying the football.
Speaker 3: You know, they don't complete passes on this guy.
Speaker 7: And I don't know, I mean, like you could tell
Speaker 7: me all the things you want with this football team
Speaker 7: with Hooker and Wilson and all that guy. And you're saying,
Speaker 7: wait a minute, and go get this guy. Damn Rod,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna bring him in for a thirty event.
Speaker 3: Where would you have to get him though? Would you
Speaker 3: have to get him? You can?
Speaker 7: I think second round probably, yeah, I mean, and he
Speaker 7: might go before that when there's some other safeties in
Speaker 7: this draft. Don't get me wrong, but I mean, he
Speaker 7: is the one guy that you watch him cover, you
Speaker 7: watch him tackle, you watch him play with range. You
Speaker 7: want everything that that that guy Detroit does. This cat
Speaker 7: does you know, like he could play. I mean, he's
Speaker 7: he's a six foot he's one hundred and eighty six pounds.
Speaker 7: He's probably, you know, not the bulkiest guy, but all
Speaker 7: that other stuff that's that's that's impressive.
Speaker 3: This tackles in his game because he occasionally will go
Speaker 3: low and that's you know. And yeah, but I thought
Speaker 3: he was one of the better tacklers among all the
Speaker 3: safeties like nickim and Warri had tackling. He had to
Speaker 3: run the alley and something about just the wanting to tackle. Yeah, Soba,
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a guy there's some remember me shots
Speaker 3: in his game. He's gonna thudge you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw miss when he wanted to kill people
Speaker 4: like that. That's kind of what I saw. Like he
Speaker 4: was trying to do so much and he just maybe
Speaker 4: just that, you know, just forum gets awful right down
Speaker 4: and tackle him as supposed to just trying. But I
Speaker 4: think that's something that coaching can fix. But like, besides that,
Speaker 4: this dude gets picked. He takes the ball away ball
Speaker 4: hawk and he does it high low from the nickel
Speaker 4: if you wanted to chase tight ends around, if you
Speaker 4: want him to. And I think he's safety. I think
Speaker 4: I got him better at the Stars and I got
Speaker 4: him better than what.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you're seven and ten, you're you're you're not.
Speaker 7: I mean you're looking at all positions.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm not. I'm not sitting there like sure.
Speaker 3: I mean there's four safeties that I think would be
Speaker 3: upgrades for you in this draft one.
Speaker 2: It's a new defensive coordinator too. You don't know what
Speaker 2: Eberflus feels about guys like like Hooker on the backside,
Speaker 2: Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 7: I think the previous regime was okay with those guys.
Speaker 7: It's talking to Mike Zimmer, he was okay with Hooker.
Speaker 7: He was okay with Wilson, you know, but I I'm
Speaker 7: glad Tommy had eyes on him because I don't know
Speaker 7: how you could.
Speaker 3: Not want this player.
Speaker 4: I think it's a big deal, Brian, I do too.
Speaker 4: At this table, we've talked about corner all day. Wide
Speaker 4: receiver d Tab talked about is they need linebackers so bad?
Speaker 4: You only get thirty of these, You only get thirty visits.
Speaker 4: One of them is a safety that get picks. That
Speaker 4: fits your new DC here.
Speaker 3: I think that means that it does. It does. I
Speaker 3: wasn't trying to say that.
Speaker 7: It was just just talking to cover all the I'm
Speaker 7: just trying to cover all the bases here.
Speaker 6: But no, I completely agree with you guys, Cooba. It
Speaker 6: was it was interesting to see opening I'm trying to
Speaker 6: plug it all in here. Yeah, you know, his true
Speaker 6: freshman season at Clemson and was like, oh my god,
Speaker 6: this is going to be super And then afterwards it
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, you know, he maybe they're figuring out.
Speaker 6: He comes to Texas and it's just, you know, his
Speaker 6: best here yet. So he got developed in that A
Speaker 6: nice but there's the secondary there. No, absolutely did they
Speaker 6: did good with him A couple more quick notes here
Speaker 6: and then I'll get you out here. H gunner Helm.
Speaker 6: Forget the testing numbers. I think, really, I think this
Speaker 6: guy just glides. I think he's great at the tight
Speaker 6: end spot.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 6: Uh, he had the ankle when he ran the forties,
Speaker 6: so that time was a little bit slower. But I
Speaker 6: think this guy was super productive in college. I think
Speaker 6: he'll be the same way in the NFL CAM. Williams
Speaker 6: did not do any testing. He was just there still.
Speaker 6: He said he was eighty percent with that knee injury
Speaker 6: that he suffered towards the detail end.
Speaker 3: Of the year.
Speaker 6: Again, I just think he's a guy that would have
Speaker 6: benefited from an him and he lost a lot of way.
Speaker 6: He said he was down at three seventeen yesterday, So
Speaker 6: I don't yeah pounds, he's a guard bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's heavy footage. That's forge he needs to develop.
Speaker 3: And you know, he said, well, when I came to Texas.
Speaker 6: When I came to Texas, I didn't know much about football,
Speaker 6: and so I think that there's still progression that needs
Speaker 6: to be there.
Speaker 3: And then of course the big thing that might let
Speaker 3: somebody else be a hero there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the big thing that most people were there were
Speaker 6: for was quinn ewers throwing session, which short intermediate game.
Speaker 3: He looks like a million bucks throwing.
Speaker 6: On it is his usual since since his days at
Speaker 6: South Flake Carroll High School. And then you watch the
Speaker 6: deep ball in the first couple of ones, you're like, Okay,
Speaker 6: we're looking good here.
Speaker 3: And he threw fifty nine passes.
Speaker 6: So he finished with three deep balls and he could
Speaker 6: tell his armost kind of getting a bullpen session. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he threw three straight ducks to close out his safe
Speaker 6: and it's just.
Speaker 7: Tommy, how much did they have him work under center?
Speaker 7: Was there was there the NFL coaches running the drills
Speaker 7: or was it a guy that he had.
Speaker 6: It was it was a mixture of Texas guys. They're
Speaker 6: wide receivers, coach Chris Jackson working it. And then I
Speaker 6: don't know if I don't remember if there was an NFL.
Speaker 7: Guy said, I'm saying I was beachured. I was wondering
Speaker 7: how much they would put him under center. A lot
Speaker 7: of these guys were that's Warred. You know, these these
Speaker 7: guys dart they play in that shotgun so much that
Speaker 7: I'd like to see footwork he did.
Speaker 6: He did take snaps under center. There was a mix
Speaker 6: of shotgun and under stuff that he did tell.
Speaker 3: Him what happened on the first snap under center? Yeah,
Speaker 3: sumb on the first one did Jake Major's down with him?
Speaker 3: It was Jake Majors.
Speaker 6: So there's a mixture of Jake Majors and then Hayden Connor,
Speaker 6: the guard guard who played there that also took some
Speaker 6: snaps at center. So guy's got to see him do
Speaker 6: a little bit of both.
Speaker 3: There are two Texas players one that I think has
Speaker 3: really slid throughout this process, wide receiver Isaiah Bond. And
Speaker 3: Bond was a guy and I've talked to Brian to
Speaker 3: you about this, like we kept watching receivers and it's
Speaker 3: like sliding, like sliding in Majors. Jake Majors is the
Speaker 3: other one in a draft that I don't think any
Speaker 3: of us really sold on the centers. Jake Majors was
Speaker 3: a guy that that I was really intrigued to watch.
Speaker 3: Obviously looked at him at prosper he was a left tackle,
Speaker 3: then kicked inside the set center to Texas. Uh for
Speaker 3: the NFL, I mean, is it a power thing? Is
Speaker 3: it one of those where I think the football IQ
Speaker 3: and the intelligence is there, but did he just peak?
Speaker 3: Like is he a finished product right now? Because you
Speaker 3: look at Jake Majors, you're looking at a late day
Speaker 3: three pick for a lot of mock drafts were seeing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think he has peaked. Zach, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know what more he can do to reach
Speaker 6: his ceiling. I think he's there physically, and I think,
Speaker 6: you know, you've got a really arn't player with a
Speaker 6: lot of snaps, and I think if a team takes
Speaker 6: him earlier than that day three spot, that's going to
Speaker 6: be what gets him there. He's he's you know, lauded
Speaker 6: for being a smart player, a guy who's able to
Speaker 6: take command and help his quarterback out. So I like Majors,
Speaker 6: but I think that I don't know how much more
Speaker 6: room to improve their.
Speaker 2: There A lot of times when you look at a
Speaker 2: center like that, you want a nail eater, right. I
Speaker 2: want a guy that's going to be a physical force
Speaker 2: in the run game. I didn't see that with Majors.
Speaker 2: I didn't see a powerful player. See the football IQ.
Speaker 2: He's in the right place, right time, His footwork, his
Speaker 2: pass protection, all those things are solid. But he doesn't
Speaker 2: overpower any know that in Georgia games, and that limits
Speaker 2: his boiling significantly.
Speaker 3: You see McLoughlin, I think that's his name.
Speaker 2: It same kind of thing. When you have better, I
Speaker 2: have McLoughlin better now. I kind of flipped him from
Speaker 2: the magazine. So the magazine Majors is above McLaughlin. It's
Speaker 2: a beautiful magazine.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: But the backside of it, cowboy fans, that's why you
Speaker 4: don't move bebe like.
Speaker 3: The same kind of thing. Unless you draft rays Abel
Speaker 3: that'd be the only guy to consider the.
Speaker 5: Center for you.
Speaker 2: Yes, the way that I have McLoughlin here, I say,
Speaker 2: especially when facing power rushers and bigger defensive tackles.
Speaker 3: His balance was off. Part of that is due to
Speaker 3: high pad level and would.
Speaker 2: Play with a poor hand placement and leverage at times.
Speaker 3: That was McLoughlin out of out of uh Ohio state.
Speaker 3: This is not a great centers draft. You know, you're
Speaker 3: not in a great Gia overall.
Speaker 5: Why do they like him? Why? Why?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 4: Why do I keep seeing my drafts and top one
Speaker 4: hundreds that got the like tested like like what like
Speaker 4: what kind of tests?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 6: The combine had a good combine athletics shorts for good.
Speaker 5: But as a center, I want you to whoop folk.
Speaker 3: You know, Dallas, I'm with you.
Speaker 4: That's the first line in my notes. I want you
Speaker 4: to whoop kids and and and none of the centers
Speaker 4: in this draft whoop kids. So what So what we're
Speaker 4: doing is having to find guards. But like, okay, can
Speaker 4: you play?
Speaker 3: You play center?
Speaker 5: Can you snap?
Speaker 4: And I think if with Bebe, it'll upset me to
Speaker 4: tell him, Hey man, you've been working on snapping a
Speaker 4: step for three out six five days. Let's just go
Speaker 4: back to guard. Let's just stay strongest center. Y'all know
Speaker 4: what you left guard is. I wouldn't much rather just
Speaker 4: find a powerful rank. I've said this three four times.
Speaker 4: So if anybody just watched me saying I'm sorry, but
Speaker 4: you work here, No, I snuck it.
Speaker 5: I came in here with you. I mean, b you
Speaker 5: let him in. Kyle took shirt, Kyle took his badge,
Speaker 5: and he walked in. I just walked me in.
Speaker 3: No, I don't worry.
Speaker 2: If you're listening from upstairs, he did check in, he
Speaker 2: did do the process.
Speaker 3: We're okay. I didn't let him in the building. That
Speaker 3: security guard. Yeah, yeah, I saw him kind of, I
Speaker 3: saw the shadow. I think you're absolutely right, though. Watch
Speaker 3: when it comes to Jared Wilson, Like he gets to
Speaker 3: the second level, but then it's like who does Who's
Speaker 3: he supposed to block? Like he's looking around like I
Speaker 3: don't know exactly where I'm supposed to go to the
Speaker 3: athletic traits, you see that. I can see him easily
Speaker 3: with ease he's getting, but then he's searching for a linebacker.
Speaker 3: He's always like not you go said, he doesn't reach
Speaker 3: the target.
Speaker 4: Well, do you do you think teams care about the
Speaker 4: super powerful guy or do you think they prioritize the athlete?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 5: You know, because we we've.
Speaker 4: Had guards that I've loved and like, yo, this this
Speaker 4: guard is whooping feet on these kids. But as he
Speaker 4: may have slow feet and he gets dropped to the
Speaker 4: day three or something. But this guard that may not
Speaker 4: be strong, or a center that may not be strong,
Speaker 4: but he can reach really well, he gets prioritized. Right,
Speaker 4: So is the league leaning towards making the running backs
Speaker 4: make the plays and make the decisions. And you just
Speaker 4: got to be hat on hat guy, because nothing makes
Speaker 4: me more sick than stale mate. Hat on hat guy.
Speaker 4: I love watching Tyler Smith drive people and bb drive people,
Speaker 4: but I'm not good with the I want to say
Speaker 4: about it on this team, but just the stale maiden,
Speaker 4: which is where we're at.
Speaker 3: And that's why we vibe with offensive lineman because we're
Speaker 3: looking at the Tyler Bookers, the Wyatt milems West Virginia
Speaker 3: like I want a big, nasty guard that's gonna drive people.
Speaker 3: I want you to hurt somebody be I want to
Speaker 3: see some nasty. But these coaches come out and they
Speaker 3: talk about Penn and poll. Yeah, and that's why an
Speaker 3: armand Membu has a right they talk about and that's
Speaker 3: totally fair.
Speaker 4: But linebackers are two hundred and twenty pounds. Now, let's
Speaker 4: go get them, you.
Speaker 8: Know what I mean?
Speaker 5: One text? One text are two ninety three texts are
Speaker 5: too eight.
Speaker 3: Tyler Booker is athletic enough to get out in space.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, No, he's athlete.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying.
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, when you start to talk about your
Speaker 7: big tough inside guys, they you know, they're telling you.
Speaker 7: Scheme wise, we've all we've all went in the first
Speaker 7: thing when when these coaches got hired, what schemes were
Speaker 7: we looking at. Oh look what they do they do
Speaker 7: outside zone? Oh they do zone? They do you know
Speaker 7: they do pin and poll. You know, I mean, like
Speaker 7: you say, you're not going to put heavy footed guys
Speaker 7: in pen and poll, y'all.
Speaker 3: Like Lampkin, I he's very very small. But that dude
Speaker 3: that I like him off, he really does. I put
Speaker 3: him as an under the radar guy on the on
Speaker 3: the magazine.
Speaker 7: I think I think there's the one guy I could remember.
Speaker 7: It was Terry Long and this goes way way way back.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was drafted by the Steelers from East Carolina.
Speaker 7: He was one of the first guys I ever five ten. No, No,
Speaker 7: it's no relation, no relation at all. But no, this
Speaker 7: is this was this is a very very rare thing
Speaker 7: that you'll let you'll ever see the tape. Though, when
Speaker 7: he the way he plays with leverage and stuff.
Speaker 3: Like that, I'm man, I don't.
Speaker 7: Like, I say, at center, maybe better center than guards,
Speaker 7: but but how many matchups is he gonna have? You know,
Speaker 7: where he has to go get a guy and but
Speaker 7: he he can do that.
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 7: Is he strong In a group of bad centers. He
Speaker 7: might be a guy that somebody takes, but he is
Speaker 7: as rare at five to ten and two hundred and
Speaker 7: seventy five pounds.
Speaker 4: It's it's will he be drafted because he's short, Like
Speaker 4: I bet a lot of times, probably don't even have
Speaker 4: him draftable because he doesn't meet the pre records arm length.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you cannot watch him play. I
Speaker 3: feel like the tapes a fourth rounder for me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Adams probably gonna go in like the sixth round, maybe seventh. Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, is he a priority undrafted free agent?
Speaker 3: I think that's dallasuestion.
Speaker 7: Dallas had a taller guy, but the sweight wise was
Speaker 7: to say, Mark Stepanowski played here, and Mark was a
Speaker 7: second level cut you in half because he had Nate
Speaker 7: Newton playing there next to him, and guys Kevin Gogan
Speaker 7: and guys like that. So he had those. But the
Speaker 7: thing with Lampkin real quick, I looked at me. He
Speaker 7: started twenty six games at left guard, twenty one games
Speaker 7: at right guard, and fourteen games at center. This guy
Speaker 7: was the undefeated Florida state championship wrestler. He has a
Speaker 7: five year starter. It's ac It's not like he's at
Speaker 7: he's at, you know, at some school that you would like, Oh,
Speaker 7: there's no way I would.
Speaker 3: But he played five years of five year starter at
Speaker 3: North Carolina. Well, he transferred from Coastal Carolina to UNC
Speaker 3: right so two years before. But he was part of
Speaker 3: the Coastal Carolina turnaround where.
Speaker 2: They were right there running games. He had over twenty
Speaker 2: one hundred pass blocking snaps. He allowed just three sacks
Speaker 2: in his college career, and he never allowed more than
Speaker 2: one in a season and had zero allowed over his
Speaker 2: two seasons with the suppressive man. The tape's really good
Speaker 2: for him. He's great tape. But yeah, that's one of
Speaker 2: the guy's measurables. And right at the beginning of the
Speaker 2: segment vatch, you asked that question of where is the
Speaker 2: league leaning. I think this center class is a pretty
Speaker 2: good indication of where they're leaning. They're leaning towards away
Speaker 2: from this center class, and the center class is full
Speaker 2: of guys that aren't powerful guys. You're seeing a lot
Speaker 2: of athleticism, seeing guys that can move. So I still
Speaker 2: think there's a value in the power in the strength
Speaker 2: of these guys, and you're starting to see the way
Speaker 2: that they kind of gravitate away from that real.
Speaker 3: Quick and just single answer, whatever, what do you do
Speaker 3: with strepo? Now? For Miami? Do you now know he
Speaker 3: ran a four eight?
Speaker 5: I knew he wasn't fast this whole time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a straight line fanst I do think
Speaker 4: that affects where you draft, sorry, you know where you
Speaker 4: draft him?
Speaker 5: Sure Like you just can't look at it.
Speaker 3: And the tape is the tape is is not bad.
Speaker 4: You can't look at your draftmates and justify third round anymore,
Speaker 4: fourth round anymore? If he running a full eight, hey
Speaker 4: can we get him in the fifth. But I still
Speaker 4: think that's a dude that can play. Nick Nash is
Speaker 4: like that, Like he doesn't have all the physical stuff
Speaker 4: you want, but that played football, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So he may not get drafted for h stuff, But
Speaker 4: Devin Neil physically, he doesn't run his fans, but he
Speaker 4: can play football. So I think the third round is
Speaker 4: going to be full of football players, and I think
Speaker 4: he's a football player, and I think he'll go up
Speaker 4: in the slide and run these routs and tricky well, at.
Speaker 2: Least guys like Nick Nash have size to him though
Speaker 2: he's a six foot plus.
Speaker 7: I know, but if did you kill him on his
Speaker 7: size or did you kill him? Because what we were
Speaker 7: negatives about him? When you just watch, if you didn't
Speaker 7: know he ran four eight three.
Speaker 5: It was all size and speed.
Speaker 3: It was speed.
Speaker 4: I can see the speed on the film too. It
Speaker 4: was all but like quick top of the route. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, diversity changing the tempo with a
Speaker 4: little bit of speed that he does have. He does
Speaker 4: and he caught everything, so he has good film. But
Speaker 4: I guess with just more more details.
Speaker 3: I guess you just taught everything. Sometimes with his body.
Speaker 3: So I just wondering. I wondered a body. I wonder
Speaker 3: if people are just gonna now just completely drop him out.
Speaker 3: There was something about him that streamed to me. He's
Speaker 3: a good college player. I just didn't I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't think he's going to translate to the NFL super well.
Speaker 3: And I could be so wrong about that. There's just
Speaker 3: other guys that have similar traits like Jalen Noel of
Speaker 3: Iowa State.
Speaker 7: Okay, well there's a guy that there's a guy that
Speaker 7: there's a guy that did didn't look fast on tape
Speaker 7: and then now tested very well.
Speaker 3: But he's I mean, the separation that he creates is natural.
Speaker 3: The route running is good. He and he's a hands catcher,
Speaker 3: like I agree with Kyle. He'll let that thing come
Speaker 3: into his body a little bit. Jayalen well snatch the
Speaker 3: football for you. Nole's the best Iowa state wide receiver
Speaker 3: in this draft. Well, you know how I feel about Streppo.
Speaker 3: I don't know what.
Speaker 10: Nole.
Speaker 3: Jalen Nole is the best Iowa state wide receiver in
Speaker 3: the draft over Jaden Higgins. Absolutely.
Speaker 5: I don't like Higgins so much, tell him time.
Speaker 6: I actually like, I think I think you've got you know,
Speaker 6: because Higgins is that big go up and get it
Speaker 6: X guy.
Speaker 3: He's you've got, You've got, You've.
Speaker 5: Got, which is I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Routes there, you've got you've got better X guys on
Speaker 3: this class.
Speaker 6: You know, I look at a guy like I'm just
Speaker 6: looking at my list here, elic Io Manor from Stanford,
Speaker 6: Trey Harris from Old miss.
Speaker 3: Obviously t Mac that that those are guys that I forgot.
Speaker 2: Agree with you, Trey Harris is above all those guys
Speaker 2: for me. I'm i'm I've told you that before. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm higher on.
Speaker 3: We're about about to play a game. We'll wait second.
Speaker 3: I got to find louther Bird.
Speaker 4: Way high in the magazine. You got there right there.
Speaker 4: If you're looking at the magazine, he got him sick.
Speaker 3: I like Kyle's on track. I don't have Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think that's that'sh is much better than Higgins from the
Speaker 3: cum calling you out there.
Speaker 2: Well, no, Besh, I actually have higher than Higgins there,
Speaker 2: but there's I have Higgins higher than Nol.
Speaker 3: And that was the conversation. And I like Jalen Nole.
Speaker 2: I think he's a good player. He was great at
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl. His tape is phenomenal.
Speaker 3: It is Nol. Okay, I apologize for saying Noel. Jalen,
Speaker 3: I love you, and I think your tape's incredible. My
Speaker 3: daughter is named Noel. I would I would never do
Speaker 3: such a thing. It's a beautiful daughter.
Speaker 5: We all got Jayalen roy.
Speaker 3: Yeah he's higher. Royle's the second round. Royals, I've got
Speaker 3: right behind Trey Harrison, right above Jack Besh.
Speaker 5: I got a second round like Royles is nasty dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we take our first break.
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Speaker 4: Somebody was like, well, Vog, how come you and Brian
Speaker 4: don't hold genty to the forty times requirement that y'all
Speaker 4: hold Johnson to or whatever I did.
Speaker 3: I told him I'm disappointed he didn't run.
Speaker 4: I was like, twel that, gents, he ain't got to
Speaker 4: run another team. I was upset that he was running
Speaker 4: at his damn prote don't get hurt, man. Look did
Speaker 4: you see him? Just see how physically he looks.
Speaker 3: He's physically if he runs, but.
Speaker 5: He's not as fast as we thought. That don't mean
Speaker 5: you could tackle him.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen anybody this is so?
Speaker 7: I don't think in all the years I've done this,
Speaker 7: somebody that like when there he was, he plays so
Speaker 7: erecked right straight out stands.
Speaker 5: Okay, he stands all.
Speaker 7: Yet you know what I I I really don't have
Speaker 7: a stands Yeah, stands.
Speaker 3: He places before dods up very high. He doesn't somebody's
Speaker 3: gonna clip it. Yeah right.
Speaker 7: But if you're seen when he does this though, he
Speaker 7: it's like amazing how quick he can get.
Speaker 5: Go ahead and listen, he's just got the cameras stug
Speaker 5: over you.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm following what you're saying. You know what, You're
Speaker 3: the only.
Speaker 5: One that's like, right what you saying that you said?
Speaker 5: He said, okay, stop, you know what.
Speaker 3: I had enough, I'm not go ahead.
Speaker 4: He stands there, he stands tall and does what never mind,
Speaker 4: he does have interesting you know, Gibbs had James, Jordan
Speaker 4: James got this same James. A lot of those guys
Speaker 4: just still up.
Speaker 3: But that was amazed at how tall he stands. And
Speaker 3: then when they and then he's just the explosion and
Speaker 3: he has.
Speaker 5: He does explode his first step at this step.
Speaker 3: All right, Twitter, Yeah, interrect, it's time for some twitter
Speaker 3: on the twitterat on this terrible. That's what I just
Speaker 3: laugh at because you were trying to have a moment
Speaker 3: to laugh and.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to the he will fire you me too,
Speaker 4: all right, Mitch wants to.
Speaker 2: Said, tell me more, tell me more about South Carolina
Speaker 2: linebacker Demetrius Night Junior brought us and I know you've
Speaker 2: gotten a chance to watch him.
Speaker 10: I have.
Speaker 3: Let me get to those those numbers. Yeah. Uh, he's
Speaker 3: been to three schools in six seasons.
Speaker 7: This kid, he's Georgia Tech, Charlotte and now South Carolina.
Speaker 3: Does that worry you?
Speaker 12: Uh?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 7: I mean it's the ara guys don't run forties and
Speaker 7: they go to three schools.
Speaker 3: We spin it to a positive. A lot of different
Speaker 3: defensive coaches, different defensive schemes, versatility for our guys. This guy,
Speaker 3: and he's a team captain. Ay ay, sir, Yeah, this guy.
Speaker 7: He's an old school Mike linebacker. He's big, he's boxy,
Speaker 7: he's square. He's a downhill player. I'm not sure will
Speaker 7: really how were well he sees the ball. There's some
Speaker 7: snaps where you clearly see him lose the ball in
Speaker 7: misdirection plays.
Speaker 3: He is explosive.
Speaker 7: He does make when he makes contact, ball care does
Speaker 7: stop in his tracks. He could be disruptive attacking the
Speaker 7: line of scrimmage. A powerful striker plays mainly his own coverage,
Speaker 7: so you don't see a lot of that stuff. You know,
Speaker 7: good underneath with the coverage he does make the quarterbacks
Speaker 7: have to throw over the top of him. So it's
Speaker 7: kind of telling me that he's moving around. But he
Speaker 7: plays with power and taken on blockers. He did get tight.
Speaker 7: He didn't get tied up that much, but the leverage,
Speaker 7: there's some tightness to his game.
Speaker 3: He's not the most fluid mover.
Speaker 7: I think that you know, I'm not going to put
Speaker 7: him in many man coverage situations. He's really a hard
Speaker 7: working kid. He's already graduated. He has his own family too,
Speaker 7: so that's gonna be super hungry for him to take
Speaker 7: care of them. I think you're gonna get a really good,
Speaker 7: motivated player. I have him in the fourth round.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think you're actually right about the stiff hips. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think at times, like the lateral movement with him,
Speaker 3: the coverage ability I have massive questions about. But in
Speaker 3: the running game, very very instinctive. He's a good form
Speaker 3: tackler and I love the way he use his hands
Speaker 3: to fight off blocks. He sheds blocks with these. But
Speaker 3: I do think the coverage ass spect of it, not
Speaker 3: only in zone but man to man, like he struggles
Speaker 3: sometimes to pick up backs out of the backfield. I
Speaker 3: don't know that he runs particularly great in those situations.
Speaker 3: He plays better downhill than he does much better backwards.
Speaker 3: And really that's kind of a theme with a lot
Speaker 3: of these line backs.
Speaker 7: So they're all there's there's several of them. You could
Speaker 7: kind of all put I think I got like Simon
Speaker 7: in there. You know these these guys that are that
Speaker 7: are uh yeah, King, Paul Knight, King from Stutsman, Simon
Speaker 7: Simon from Ohio State, you know, Stutsman from Oklahoma. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I just kind of think like guy Dumas was a
Speaker 7: Doomas Johnson. Yeah, so those are all kind of the
Speaker 7: same type of players here in the fourth round.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was watching that Texas A and M game
Speaker 2: for night and the run fit was there. He was
Speaker 2: great playing downhill, good tackler, physical motor, all of those
Speaker 2: things kind of working in his favor. But he would
Speaker 2: get torched in the passing game, whether it was a
Speaker 2: tight end or a running back over the middle.
Speaker 3: I mean he was probably a two linebacker. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: kind of what it feels like. I did you see
Speaker 3: this uh Texas and Pro Day Shamar Stewart does not
Speaker 3: plan to participate. He was invited to attend the NFL
Speaker 3: Draft and personally do we consensus around the league that
Speaker 3: he'll be taken early in round one. So I don't
Speaker 3: know if this is agent or player driven, but he
Speaker 3: is not going to be participating. That'd probably be one
Speaker 3: of the number one guys I'd be going to cost
Speaker 3: to watch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, these kids that got questions missing out, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I got a lot of questions about them,
Speaker 4: you know. And he's gotten a lot of draft buzz
Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff. He's still a run
Speaker 4: down the middle of you guys.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He's still like lacks some of the technique. And here
Speaker 4: I go again with the ceiling guys that don't have
Speaker 4: the refinement right now, Jam, He's another one of those
Speaker 4: kind of guys for me. And I get that you
Speaker 4: can get upfield and bed and all this kind of stuff, man,
Speaker 4: but I kind of want to see you work some bags.
Speaker 4: Say have you been working on your hands? Slap the
Speaker 4: bag a little bit so I can see how your
Speaker 4: hands work. I'm just not feeling these guys. It's just
Speaker 4: not showing up to work. Yeah, I mean it's kind
Speaker 4: of weird to me.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think now that if it's kind of
Speaker 2: more of a consensus that there are question marks and
Speaker 2: there are all these guys that can maybe hide in
Speaker 2: the in the trees there, so you can kind of
Speaker 2: say there's you know what, I'm not the only one
Speaker 2: with questions. There's that guy, that guy, and that guy
Speaker 2: that also have the same kind of question marks that
Speaker 2: I talked to.
Speaker 3: Scouts went to ls U.
Speaker 7: L s U kids didn't work all that much yesterday,
Speaker 7: and scouts were pissed about that.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe that's what we're I could be wrong,
Speaker 3: but I did.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think I saw one report that the Cowboys did
Speaker 3: the drills for Mason Taylor the tight end, which kind
Speaker 3: of that excites me. I think may Taylor's the second
Speaker 3: best tight end of the draft to second best?
Speaker 5: Yep, are we gonna? So?
Speaker 4: Me and Brian had just talk, are we going to
Speaker 4: walk out of round one, two and three with no
Speaker 4: running back and no detackle like we think?
Speaker 5: In no corner? It's gonna be safety times this year.
Speaker 3: If if I had heard they didn't draft a running back,
Speaker 3: I'd have thought you were crazy. Yeah, they came away
Speaker 3: with no running didn't have one, so everything's really on
Speaker 3: the table.
Speaker 2: I think this year you gotta have one. But that
Speaker 2: kind of goes into our next twitter. On the twenty question,
Speaker 2: Perfect Wes wanted to know. Is it very important? How
Speaker 2: important is it for the Dallas Cowboys to draft a
Speaker 2: one text specifically at defensive tackle in this NFL draft?
Speaker 3: You feel like you've got three tech.
Speaker 2: Kind of taking care of what Ogizoo return. Is it
Speaker 2: crucial that they come away with a one tech?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: And I've been saying this on YouTube what the Cowboys
Speaker 4: have been doing. I don't want to just talk about
Speaker 4: them in their building like this, but what I think
Speaker 4: they should do is get the best players possible and
Speaker 4: push their current guys down the roster. You should get
Speaker 4: somebody that's better than Mazi and make Mazi fight for
Speaker 4: his life. What they'll do is they'll get somebody worse
Speaker 4: than Mazi and they'll be like, all right, Mazi, step up.
Speaker 4: I don't want that to happen.
Speaker 15: So if you can get a Derek Harmon or something,
Speaker 15: go get Derek Harmon. Than what I think they're gonna
Speaker 15: do is they're gonna wait till like the seventh Round
Speaker 15: or something, and there's gonna be like a heavy character
Speaker 15: that's there, Bohannah.
Speaker 5: Bohannah, one of those Stackhouse or something.
Speaker 3: From Joey Tonka Hemingway South Carolina. They're gonna find you, right,
Speaker 3: He's a big boy. Tony can play the four. He's wide.
Speaker 5: So what they're gonna do is they're gonna take somebody.
Speaker 5: And this is what I think.
Speaker 4: And they could prove me wrong, and they can laugh
Speaker 4: at me at the end of this, but I think
Speaker 4: they're gonna take somebody that's not gonna push Mazi very much,
Speaker 4: and we just gonna have to live with Mazie when
Speaker 4: we get to the regular season. I would love to
Speaker 4: draft the one tech very early because I think this
Speaker 4: class in particular has a gang of one text that
Speaker 4: you can take early, and normally I don't. I don't
Speaker 4: see this class where you get, Oh, you can get
Speaker 4: a one tech in the twenties, you can get them
Speaker 4: in the forties or the seventies. You have so many
Speaker 4: opportunities in this class in particular. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 4: they're gonna do it because they're working out Mason Taylor,
Speaker 4: Andrew mccoove and all that.
Speaker 2: So well, just because they're working those guys out doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that they're gonna go.
Speaker 5: I'm being silly for the most part.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm making sure that no one else is saying, Wow,
Speaker 2: they're gonna go get Mason Taylor in the same.
Speaker 5: Being silly, but I got it.
Speaker 4: I got a feeling that, just like they like were
Speaker 4: running back last year, Hey man, you know, is this
Speaker 4: guy better than Mazi right now? And I think it's
Speaker 4: gonna be.
Speaker 3: The only thing you upgraded on your running game potentially
Speaker 3: is your coaches so far, that's the only thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, but you look at kind of the tea leaves
Speaker 2: of where things have fallen in and I'm just using
Speaker 2: the same reports that Nick Harris and Tommy Yards put
Speaker 2: out there during the NFL combine of guys that they
Speaker 2: met with. I mean they met with out of the
Speaker 2: top eight running backs on my board, they met with
Speaker 2: six of them, six of the top eight running backs.
Speaker 2: Defensive tackle very similar, Out of my top seven defensive tackles,
Speaker 2: they met with six of.
Speaker 3: Them, six of the top seven.
Speaker 2: So those are positions where they're looking at and they're
Speaker 2: trying to hone in on whether that's at twelve or
Speaker 2: whether that's at forty four or seventy six or one
Speaker 2: of the day three picks that's yet to be seen.
Speaker 2: But the top guys of each of those positions have
Speaker 2: been interviewed and looked at by the Cowboys in a
Speaker 2: formal manner. And that's not even counting the thirty visits
Speaker 2: that are kind of slowly starting.
Speaker 3: To tryl Look, Cam Horselely, the Boston college kid, might
Speaker 3: be the one to keep a name an eye on there,
Speaker 3: because that's also one that I believe that they were
Speaker 3: they did a work out with for his pro day. Okay,
Speaker 3: so coach ran the drill up. Yes, six, three, three twelve,
Speaker 3: that's a door three guy. That might be one that
Speaker 3: they've circled. Is that could be a target there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's probably going to be behind my is just
Speaker 4: my own personal opinion.
Speaker 5: Who's the last three tick?
Speaker 4: And you can look at you boys and just kind
Speaker 4: of brainstorm me that you would feel good about coming
Speaker 4: in and like push in the one takes that you
Speaker 4: have already, Like, could it be Callwell from Oregon?
Speaker 5: Could it be uh, you know Walker, Uh Farmer is Caldwell?
Speaker 3: I like Farmer? I think I think Caldwell. Did you
Speaker 3: say three tech or one one?
Speaker 5: Oh, push push him.
Speaker 3: I think you said three yeah, but I knew what
Speaker 3: you meant.
Speaker 2: I knew a chance, I say three yeah, Nos, nos nos,
Speaker 2: Okaywell that would he probably would be the last one
Speaker 2: round for you.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say yeah, yeah, Black from Iowa.
Speaker 5: Who's Iowa?
Speaker 3: I would defensive tack of watching him? Six six that's a.
Speaker 2: Big big boys, big boy. Yeah, he's in Iowa. Has
Speaker 2: always been good in the front seven. They find a
Speaker 2: way to stop the run.
Speaker 3: He continued that this years at Georgia, tack like, those
Speaker 3: are just massive human beings. Okay, so he's what six
Speaker 3: five three twenty ish? What is he? Bigger biggers? Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's six six three twenty one.
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, big big fellow there, Brian, you said
Speaker 2: Caldwell though.
Speaker 7: Yeah, cal Well, I need to see the other two
Speaker 7: guys you're talking about there, But yeah, have anybody Tommy.
Speaker 3: I would go with Caldwell as well from Oregon? A
Speaker 3: good one.
Speaker 5: What a heb fus like?
Speaker 4: Does he like the heavy keys or does he like
Speaker 4: a fast moving one?
Speaker 5: TI kind of.
Speaker 6: He's more of a three tech guy. He like his
Speaker 6: the three tech is like kind of his he's called
Speaker 6: it on the fast his engines.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but if you if you go back his original
Speaker 7: Originally he was from the Rod uh, the Rob Bryan
Speaker 7: three four odd front guys, and then he became a
Speaker 7: Rod Marinelli disciple working with Rod and all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: So if you look Rod Marinelli, Rod Marinelli, Rod Marinelli
Speaker 7: will tell you remember he forever neglected the one technique
Speaker 7: except he played with Booger McFarlane at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 3: It was a first round pick.
Speaker 7: So yeah, you know they he was always the three
Speaker 7: was always the most important.
Speaker 3: I just don't know how you can go into this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I I don't know.
Speaker 7: Like I say, I think they have to address the
Speaker 7: one technique here, I mean I do, But I.
Speaker 3: Think I think you're onto something botch.
Speaker 7: I think they're gonna say, well, let's see if can
Speaker 7: get somebody to compete with Mazi.
Speaker 3: You know, either one of those guys are possible. That's disappointing,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you. Yeah, all right, we got
Speaker 3: to take our second break.
Speaker 2: When we come back. Brian's got a situation for us.
Speaker 2: You want to explain it a little bit here, I'll
Speaker 2: do it and we come back, When we come back.
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Speaker 5: I was going to go to this show, but we
Speaker 5: got a draft. Yeah, that's the day of the draft,
Speaker 5: some day to the one in Houston. There's like the
Speaker 5: day before that.
Speaker 3: Oh nice, the day before that. That's also part of
Speaker 3: the draft.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, it's like the twenty third or something
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's before the that's a day one. Yeah, that'll
Speaker 2: be an incredible show. It's really gonna be awesome. I mean,
Speaker 2: you saw what the halftime was at the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: and those are the same two. So lots of fun.
Speaker 2: Excited to have them in town. Brian, you've got.
Speaker 7: Yeah, my last seven minutes I have. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 7: gonna kind of hustle through this. I'll give you ten okay,
Speaker 7: thank you. I'm gonna ask you, guys, you're gonna lose
Speaker 7: your player at twelve. You're gonna lose your player at twelve,
Speaker 7: and I'm gonna give you a couple of positions, but
Speaker 7: I want you to rally and pick a player at
Speaker 7: forty four and one at seventy six the same position
Speaker 7: is what I want. So if you if you don't
Speaker 7: get at your guy at twelve, which you're gonna lose,
Speaker 7: give me a guy at forty four and seventy six.
Speaker 3: We'll check. I'll start with you, Okay, give me.
Speaker 7: You lose your first round wide receiver, give me one
Speaker 7: at forty four and one at seventy six.
Speaker 3: Okay, give me Trey Harris from Ole miss And then
Speaker 3: seventy six, let's go Tes Johnson from Oregon.
Speaker 7: Okay, and if a quick reasons why well, okay, So
Speaker 7: I just love Trey Harris.
Speaker 3: I think Trey Harris is one of these guys that
Speaker 3: he Now they're different here between these two players, because
Speaker 3: Trey Harris, I do think would be your ex okay,
Speaker 3: that you're looking for here. He was a high school
Speaker 3: quarterback and you can see a little bit of that
Speaker 3: in this game. I thought that he actually is a
Speaker 3: faster version of a Michael Gallup to remind me a
Speaker 3: little bit of gallop. Big body receiver. True X makes
Speaker 3: places down the field, consistently strong at the catch point,
Speaker 3: to make contested catches, really good balance in the body control. Okay,
Speaker 3: I think that's where you see the comp there for
Speaker 3: Gallup and Johnson. Johnson, I think that you're already in
Speaker 3: a situation where you've got familiarity with the wide receiver's
Speaker 3: closed receivers coach, explosive, twitchy playmaker. Now he is slight,
Speaker 3: but he gets the ball in his hands and good
Speaker 3: things happen on a consistent basis. So there is a
Speaker 3: question mark, right, can he win outside with his size
Speaker 3: or does he need to be a slot type of player.
Speaker 3: But he's also going to help you in the return game.
Speaker 3: And I know you just paid Cavante Turpens or there's
Speaker 3: two players a little bit too similar. But in the
Speaker 3: third round, I think it's going to be difficult for
Speaker 3: me to find a player that I like more than
Speaker 3: tes Johnson at that position.
Speaker 7: Bosh, you lose your guy. Your lose your wide receiver
Speaker 7: at twelve. Give me win a forty four and seventy six.
Speaker 4: Elik Am and your is going to be my second
Speaker 4: round guy. He's going to come in and be a
Speaker 4: big body X for you. He's gonna run all your
Speaker 4: slants and a summing that wearing this offense that gets
Speaker 4: creative and we'll just run a field and turn around.
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be able to be physical
Speaker 4: and you know, jump over people and run through people,
Speaker 4: and you know, just go back and watch him versus
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter last year, like Colorado, they put up some
Speaker 4: big yards on it, and it seems like he did it
Speaker 4: with all slantsons just jumping over people. So I'm taking
Speaker 4: them there and in the third round, I'm gonna take
Speaker 4: saveon Williams from TCU. He's another big body character there's
Speaker 4: and that's my trend. I want to get somebody that's
Speaker 4: that big body that can run around a little bit.
Speaker 4: And I think Save is going to start off as
Speaker 4: a move around guy. He's gonna play running back for you.
Speaker 4: Sometimes maybe he could be a toush push dude for you.
Speaker 4: But if you keep working on him and coaching them
Speaker 4: and teaching them things, maybe he would be a more
Speaker 4: refined wide receiver, full time X guy for you in
Speaker 4: the future.
Speaker 3: Tommy, you lost Golden at twelve?
Speaker 5: How you know? How you know he want to go
Speaker 5: to them?
Speaker 3: Bro, Tommy, you lost Golden at twelve? All right? Fair enough?
Speaker 6: No, No, I'm just saying done. Forty four and seventy
Speaker 6: forty four, I'm with Walchuck. I've got Trey Harris ol Miss.
Speaker 6: I think he's the best X in this class behind
Speaker 6: Tim Maca. Just just so good, so productive when he
Speaker 6: was healthy at all Miss. And then third round it's
Speaker 6: twenty six. I got Jalen Royals from you toss State.
Speaker 6: Just really fun tape, good after the catch, good hands,
Speaker 6: just a lot to like.
Speaker 3: That would be a dream scenario. I just don't think
Speaker 3: Royals is making it four. Yeah, I love that. I
Speaker 3: think I think you get him right to be a party.
Speaker 3: You think he's a third round pick, Well, I have him, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I have him on my board.
Speaker 7: I don't know if he's going to make it there,
Speaker 7: but I absolutely like he's him if if I.
Speaker 2: Have him as a second if, I mean, I'd be right.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 7: You lost your guy twelve, give me give me the
Speaker 7: guy forty four and seventy six.
Speaker 2: You heard me clapping in the background with Trey Harris,
Speaker 2: So that would be my second round pick. And then
Speaker 2: I really like the test Johnson idea. Because of the
Speaker 2: familiarity with your wide receivers, coach, he gives you something
Speaker 2: this offense doesn't have some explosiveness, some slot ability, some
Speaker 2: route running there that I think you could possibly add.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go with I want an ex receiver.
Speaker 2: I want to die on the outside, So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go with watch. I'm saying, save you on Williams from TCU,
Speaker 2: same kind of reasoning. Big bodied guy again gives you
Speaker 2: something you don't have on your offense and pairs well
Speaker 2: with CD Lamb.
Speaker 5: Turges got some so I've made it they're gonna use.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that too.
Speaker 7: Zach Yep, you lost your running back at twelve. Okay,
Speaker 7: give me one at forty four and one at seventy six.
Speaker 7: Give me Caleb Johnson at forty four. It sounds like
Speaker 7: I think there will be. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 7: To me, like it sounds like Hampton's getting more love.
Speaker 7: I think Henderson's getting more love.
Speaker 3: Quinch On Judkins on some people that I've talked to,
Speaker 3: has surpassed Kalb. I don't see it. Caleb Johnson's running
Speaker 3: back two for me, I absolutely love the guy. Third round,
Speaker 3: give me RJ. Harvey. And you know that r J.
Speaker 3: Harvey I think is very very much like the Bucky
Speaker 3: Irving of this draft class. That's a dude that is
Speaker 3: a touchdown machine, and he's got the ability to create
Speaker 3: things break down in front of him. Sometimes I can
Speaker 3: get him in trouble. He'll do a little too much
Speaker 3: east west to try and create something in the backfield
Speaker 3: and he'll end up losing some yards. But I just
Speaker 3: love r. J. Harvey's game. He is a full three
Speaker 3: down back.
Speaker 7: Vosh, you lost your running back at twelve, give me
Speaker 7: one at forty four and won at seventy six.
Speaker 4: I think Hampton, Johnson and Henderson are going to be gone,
Speaker 4: but I got RJ. Harvey the second round, So I'm
Speaker 4: gonna double down, wool up and just to just to
Speaker 4: kind of take another similar guy, just like I did
Speaker 4: with wide receiver uh Jacory Krossky Merrit from Arizona, you know,
Speaker 4: play one game at Arizona, but both but both those guys,
Speaker 4: what they have is that they run with great balance.
Speaker 4: They will thump you at the end of the run.
Speaker 4: They got big playability, and they both catch the football
Speaker 4: really well. When I'm when of them blocked. Harvey blocks
Speaker 4: a little better than than than Merrit, but both of
Speaker 4: them can work on blocking a little bit.
Speaker 5: More.
Speaker 4: Uh so you might have to put lifty at four
Speaker 4: back on third downs or something like that. But if
Speaker 4: you're gonna throw the ball to the running back, both
Speaker 4: those guys.
Speaker 3: Can catch him. Krosskey mirror.
Speaker 7: By the way, you have to look at you to
Speaker 7: try and find new Mexico tape. Yeah, except you think
Speaker 7: he's even available.
Speaker 2: He's on draft boards because he didn't play that much
Speaker 2: this past year.
Speaker 3: I think he's still draftable.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna look at his last year's tape
Speaker 4: or look at his one Arizona tape this year and
Speaker 4: in Mexico. Yeah, and then watch the wash the Bowl stuff,
Speaker 4: you know, Trimble, Krosky, Marrit got busy and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: And he tested really well. Brian brought is his text
Speaker 4: and everybody say, hey, hey man, this is why schnow
Speaker 4: Bard's got testing well at Arizona.
Speaker 5: I would definitely take.
Speaker 3: Him to Oh he stands on the table for the guy.
Speaker 3: I give him credit. It's interesting, Tommy, how about your guy?
Speaker 7: You lose your guy at twelve, but you got one
Speaker 7: that at forty four to seventy six.
Speaker 6: So I don't think Hampton or Johnson are going to
Speaker 6: be there. So I've got Trevion Henderson from Ohio State
Speaker 6: at forty four. The more I watch him, the more
Speaker 6: I fall in love with him. I think this is
Speaker 6: a guy that can really do everything in His speed
Speaker 6: is what makes him a game changer. Seventy six, I've
Speaker 6: got Devin Neil from Kansas. I think there's a smaller guy,
Speaker 6: but he's really good out of the backfield. I'm higher
Speaker 6: on him as a receiver than most coming out of
Speaker 6: the backfield, but extremely productive in a couple of years
Speaker 6: at Kansas. And a guy who is smaller but he
Speaker 6: runs really well. He runs hard, he hits his gaps hard,
Speaker 6: and I think he's gonna be a really good player.
Speaker 2: Kyle, Yeah, I'm gonna go with Henderson in the second
Speaker 2: round as well.
Speaker 3: I think there's a good chance.
Speaker 2: That these guys will get pushed back because of some
Speaker 2: of the other position groups of need and I think
Speaker 2: Hampton and gent will go both go in the first
Speaker 2: so we'll see if a guy like Henderson and Johnson
Speaker 2: can make it to forty four. But I'll take the chance.
Speaker 2: I'll say Henderson there at forty four. In the third round,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with Jordan James running back from Oregon. Waltchuck,
Speaker 2: you said you were looking for Bucky Irvings replacement. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was literally Bucky Irvings replacement and was really really good.
Speaker 2: Led the Pac twelve as a sophomore, was seven point
Speaker 2: one yards per carry and he carried the ball one
Speaker 2: hundred and seven times. It wasn't one of those things
Speaker 2: where he had like twelve carries and had a ton
Speaker 2: of yards on one breakaway tally twelve hundred rushing yards,
Speaker 2: fifteen touchdowns after the departure of Bucky Irving, electrifying runner,
Speaker 2: twitchy movement, runs bigger than his body type, and he
Speaker 2: takes care of the ball at a high level. He
Speaker 2: is great with ball security. He can be used out
Speaker 2: of the backfield as well. We'll see if he's in
Speaker 2: every down back because he's kind of a smaller guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he can be that guy overall.
Speaker 2: I think he can, but I think some questions are
Speaker 2: there from scouting apartments.
Speaker 3: I think he's a great player.
Speaker 7: Late on Day two, all right, in the last five
Speaker 7: minutes we got here, give me Zach, I need you
Speaker 7: lost your corner back. Corner back at twelve forty four
Speaker 7: and seventy six at forty four. Give me Trey A
Speaker 7: Mos from Ole Miss. I'm a big fan of this guy.
Speaker 7: I mean, I got now I'm going to Old Miss guys.
Speaker 7: Maybe I should just picked a different school.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna do the same thing. He's an athlete.
Speaker 3: I love to change his direction, quick footwork, closing speed,
Speaker 3: size length, he uses that as an advantage for him.
Speaker 3: Really alert defending screens, fights through blocks. He's a willing
Speaker 3: tackler as well a third round corner. I gotta keep
Speaker 3: fighting for my guy. Jacob Parrish here at a Case State.
Speaker 3: I love Parish. I know he's small. He might not
Speaker 3: be in play for the Cowboys because I think they
Speaker 3: want to play five ten, But he's a pit bull.
Speaker 3: I mean he's got a pit bull play temperament, very aggressive,
Speaker 3: comes downhill, he will smack you and he'll blow off
Speaker 3: up some screens. He can set the edge of the
Speaker 3: run game for a small guy. Quick feet, very instinctive player.
Speaker 3: There's not a whole lot that I don't like about
Speaker 3: Jacob Parrish from Kansas State. Botch.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Noel Williams and Cowboy fans aren't gonna
Speaker 4: like it because he may not be at the top
Speaker 4: of everybody's boards back in the year two and three.
Speaker 4: They're gonna be thanking hell out of me with that race.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna gt Hi'm gonna line him up on the outside.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna move Bland to the inside. And what he's
Speaker 4: gonna do is he's gonna jam guys up. He's gonna
Speaker 4: he's gonna whoop people in the middle. They're gonna run
Speaker 4: slams song. He's gonna be physical, and if we happen
Speaker 4: to play a bunch of his own, he's gonna be
Speaker 4: fantastic end zone as well. Some people may be higher
Speaker 4: on this next guy, but I kind of got him
Speaker 4: here because it is what it is. Maxwell Harriston, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna take him and put him in the nickel. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna play man Inson with him because he could do
Speaker 4: both and he's way fast, And I thought, so, hey, man,
Speaker 4: go ahead and go ahead and do your thing.
Speaker 5: Player. Put you in some man with no help and
Speaker 5: just let just let you chase people around.
Speaker 3: No Williams would love trading camps from Auxnard. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: that's a whole home that. Yeah, Wow, that's great.
Speaker 2: I could flip those guys like you could put Williams
Speaker 2: in the third and Harriston in the second.
Speaker 3: I think you still have a good time.
Speaker 4: And most people probably got it like that. I'm just gonna,
Speaker 4: you know, run my boy, how I got it, sure,
Speaker 4: And with Harston playing Nickel, then Bland will just be
Speaker 4: my house.
Speaker 3: Like that and we'll run it like that, Tommy.
Speaker 6: I got Benjamin Morrison in the second at forty four
Speaker 6: at corner from Notre Dame and picked, and I'm gonna
Speaker 6: go Jacob.
Speaker 3: Parrish in the third from campas State.
Speaker 6: I think Harish is is if they take him, that's
Speaker 6: your new Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot with you similar there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we need to ask some questions about that. That
Speaker 7: that Morrison's Yeah, I'll get that. He's a first round
Speaker 7: there's no questions. Those medicals clear absolutely. How about you, Kyle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go Trey Almos there in the second
Speaker 2: round two. I think he's a he's that at that
Speaker 2: outside X guy. He's going to cover the X guys
Speaker 2: as an outside boundary corner good hands link at the
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, disrupts timing really really well. Began his
Speaker 2: career at Louisiana transfer to Alabama after an eye opening
Speaker 2: junior season there had a great year with the Rebels
Speaker 2: out in Oxford to after that all SEC type of player.
Speaker 2: I think he leans on his physicality a little bit
Speaker 2: too much at different times along the way. But I
Speaker 2: still think he can be taught that at the NFL level.
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna go with Jabar Muhammad Oregon in
Speaker 2: that third round. Yeah, it is rich.
Speaker 3: It is rich. I know, I know, but hey, I
Speaker 3: got a problem. I think I like the tiny corners
Speaker 3: too much. But Jeah Ahmed's on my tiny corner team.
Speaker 2: Jabbar Muhammad is my Jordan Lewis replacement. Yeah, that is
Speaker 2: my guy in the third round. He I actually have
Speaker 2: him probably in the back half of the third, So
Speaker 2: it may be a little rich to even get him
Speaker 2: in the middle of the third, but I think it's
Speaker 2: too good of a fit. It's too good of a guy.
Speaker 2: He's a local product, was at DeSoto High School. Uh,
Speaker 2: played just down the street. I think he's a guy
Speaker 2: that can really have some success.
Speaker 3: Chileman, thank you very much, thank you. There you go.
Speaker 3: That's a fun segment, Brian, appreciate you. All right, that's
Speaker 3: gonna do it for us. I've done this on the
Speaker 3: Draft Show once or twice. He's done this before before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Zach's over here picking all the old miss
Speaker 2: players wearing powder blue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what can I say?
Speaker 12: Right?
Speaker 7: Lane Kiff into the same all this, They got a
Speaker 7: lot of guys that'd be happy to come.
Speaker 3: Away with this class.
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