WEBVTT - Israel, Hamas Extend Pause, New Saudi OPEC+ Proposal

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning. I'm Brian Curtis. Here are the stories we're

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<v Speaker 1>following today. Israel and Hamas have agreed to extend the

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<v Speaker 1>pause in fighting for another ten days, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>even more developments at Baxter has the story from San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 2>Ed, Yeah, two more days, Brian, two more days. Israel

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<v Speaker 2>says eleven more hostages returned today and says it is

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<v Speaker 2>approved fifty female prisoners for possible release to Hamas. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that means until Thursday this week more and follows more

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<v Speaker 2>negotiations over the release of more hostages and prisoners. Bloomberg's

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<v Speaker 2>Kaylee Lyons points out any pause is only temporary.

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<v Speaker 3>And as we're talking about a ceasefire, temporary one extending

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<v Speaker 3>for whatever period of time. Again reportedly now an extra

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<v Speaker 3>two days being tacked onto what was a four day ceasefire.

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<v Speaker 3>Netanyahu has said repeatedly that at the end of this

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<v Speaker 3>the war will continue, the fighting will continue. He is

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<v Speaker 3>going to keep going intel Hamas is eliminated. So right

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<v Speaker 3>now the ceasefire is still very much temporary, even if

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<v Speaker 3>it is just a little bit longer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with a pause extension, there are concerns. White House

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<v Speaker 2>National Security spokesman John Kirby admits it does provide Hamas

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<v Speaker 2>with an opportunity to regroup. You have to expect the.

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<v Speaker 4>Group like Commosit terrorist group, which clearly doesn't abide by

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<v Speaker 4>laws of war. We try to take advantage of any

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<v Speaker 4>pause in the fighting for their own benefit. So we're

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<v Speaker 4>watching that closely as well as our Israeli counterparts. You

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<v Speaker 4>can bet that they're watching that closely.

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<v Speaker 2>But that said, he says, the US would like to

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<v Speaker 2>see continued hostage release.

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<v Speaker 4>We would, of course hope to see the pause extended further,

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<v Speaker 4>and that will depend upon Hamas continuing to release hostages.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln says he will

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<v Speaker 2>go back to Israel this week, his third visit since

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<v Speaker 2>the war began, and we'll tie it to a visit

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<v Speaker 2>to Dubai for a COP twenty eight. So how does

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<v Speaker 2>this affect the Israeli aid calculus in the US? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that is, Congress has expected a resumed debate this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomberg's Jordan Fabian says, up in the air.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a shift before in the beginning, when this is

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<v Speaker 5>first proposed, said you know, we're going to help Israel

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<v Speaker 5>and no streets attached. But since then this offensive has

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<v Speaker 5>taken place in Gaza, a lot of Pala sittings have died,

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<v Speaker 5>Whole cities have been leveled, and so the mood has

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<v Speaker 5>turned among Democrats. They want to see some concessions here.

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<v Speaker 5>But then the calculus get tough because Republicans don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to see concessions.

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<v Speaker 2>And Elon Musk has been on Israel, touring and talking

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<v Speaker 2>with Prime Minister Benjamin Nette. Yahoo Bloomberg's ed Ledlow.

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<v Speaker 6>Musk said that he'd like to help rebuild Gaza at

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<v Speaker 6>the conclusion of the Israel jamaz war, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he basically said that he was disturbed by some of

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<v Speaker 6>the images that he'd seen. You're looking at pictures there

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<v Speaker 6>of Elon Musk with Benjaminette and Yahoo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Musk also visiting Israel in the shadow with an

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<v Speaker 2>at a Semitic post on X and the loss of

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<v Speaker 2>a number of high profile advertisers. President Joe Biden, meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>taking credit for easing supply chain pressures and lowering inflation today, says,

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<v Speaker 2>but more needs to be done.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me be clear, any corporation has not brought their

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<v Speaker 7>prices back down even as inflation has come down. Eating

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<v Speaker 7>supply chains have been rebuilt. It's time to stop the

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<v Speaker 7>price gouging given the American consumer a break.

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<v Speaker 2>Biden also says he's set up a council review supply

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<v Speaker 2>chain actions, calling it an early warning system. Global News

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours a day and whenever you want it

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<v Speaker 2>with Bloomberg News now in San Francisco. I'm Ed Baxter,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian, and thanks very much, with Brian Curtis and Vonnie

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn of course, said backstraw News. Now, it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>the top business and economic stories. Saudi Arabia is asking

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<v Speaker 1>others in OPEK Plus to reduce their oil production quotas

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<v Speaker 1>we get the story from Bloomberg's and CADS.

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<v Speaker 8>Saudi Arabia has been making a largely unilateral supply cut

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<v Speaker 8>back of one million barrels a day since July and

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<v Speaker 8>is now seeking further support from other OPEC plus members,

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<v Speaker 8>but some countries are resisting. The twenty three nation alliance

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<v Speaker 8>faces pressure to intervene in crude markets following a seventeen

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<v Speaker 8>percent drop in prices over the past two months. Amid

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<v Speaker 8>plentiful stockpiles and a darkening economic backdrop. The oil market

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<v Speaker 8>could weaken the more in twenty twenty four, with forecasts

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<v Speaker 8>of a new supply surplus in Washington and Kate's Bloomberg Radio.

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<v Speaker 9>Online shoppers are clicking their way to big savings for

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<v Speaker 9>Cyber Monday, and then this comes as buy now, pay

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<v Speaker 9>later features or letting shoppers stretch thereabouts. It's with credit.

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<v Speaker 9>Bloomberg's Spencer Sober says expectations are high.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier they were predicting about twelve billion in sales, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's from Adobe, which monitors insights from by hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>millions of transactions.

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<v Speaker 10>Nave up that to twelve point four billion.

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<v Speaker 3>Now based on the strength of the consumer on Black

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<v Speaker 3>Friday into the weekend, they're seeing the consumer being more resilient.

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<v Speaker 9>That's Bloomberg's Spencer Sober there. The holiday weekend already saw

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<v Speaker 9>record online spending. Black Friday sales top analyst projections at

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<v Speaker 9>nine point eight billion dollars. That's up seven and a

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<v Speaker 9>half percent from a year ago. The National Retail Federation

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<v Speaker 9>estimates one hundred and eighty two million people will have

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<v Speaker 9>shopped in store and online from Thanksgiving Day through the

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<v Speaker 9>end of Cyber Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Meantime, Amazon's proper hoosed acquisition of I Robot has hit

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<v Speaker 1>a potential snag in Europe. More from Bloomberg Samuel Stalton.

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<v Speaker 11>The European Commission has issued what is known as a

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<v Speaker 11>statement of objections, and this effectively means that the Commission

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<v Speaker 11>outlines a series of anti competitive concerns with the merger.

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<v Speaker 11>It doesn't necessarily prejudge the outcome of the investigation, but

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<v Speaker 11>it calls upon the firms to address some of those

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<v Speaker 11>anti competitive concerns or risk the deal being derailed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Bloomberg Samuel Stalton, and the shares were hammered. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to the numbers for you in a moment. Last week,

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<v Speaker 1>Reuter's had reported that Amazon and iRobot appeared on the

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<v Speaker 1>cusp of winning unconditional approval from the European Commission. At

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<v Speaker 1>that time, the stock jumped, but today I Robot shares

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<v Speaker 1>down seventeen percent, the biggest intra day drop in nearly

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<v Speaker 1>three years.

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<v Speaker 9>Reddit is leading a class of twenty twenty four candidates

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<v Speaker 9>testing the waters for an initial public offering in the

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<v Speaker 9>United States. We're told the social media company as again

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<v Speaker 9>hold talks with potential investors for an IPO, and that

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<v Speaker 9>IPO could come as soon as the first quarter last year,

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<v Speaker 9>we reported that Reddit was working with Morgan Stanley and

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<v Speaker 9>Goldman Sachs on the listing. Separately, we hear Rubric, a

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<v Speaker 9>Microsoft backed cloud and data security startup, is also considering

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<v Speaker 9>holding its IPO as soon as in the first quarter,

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<v Speaker 9>and we're told Kim Karnashian's Skims underwear label is discussing

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<v Speaker 9>strategy options, including an IPO that could come as soon

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<v Speaker 9>as next year.

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<v Speaker 1>And The Wall Street Journal reported just an hour or

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<v Speaker 1>so ago that the fast fashion Chinese company shu In

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<v Speaker 1>has confidentially filed for a US IPO. Well, China's Central

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<v Speaker 1>Bank says it will press the country's banks to lower

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<v Speaker 1>real lending rates. Bloomberg Yvon Mann has the story in

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<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong.

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<v Speaker 12>The Central Bank's position is clear. Deflation has effectively pushed

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<v Speaker 12>up borrowing costs in price adjusted terms, and that has

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<v Speaker 12>stow concerns that real debt burdens will rise, undermining growth.

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<v Speaker 12>As a result, wants banks to do more to smooth

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<v Speaker 12>out volatility in their lending activity. That said, in its

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<v Speaker 12>third quarter Monetary policy report, the PBOC played down concerns

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<v Speaker 12>about deflation. It said, don't read too much into single

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<v Speaker 12>month credit data. A recent Bloomberg survey showed economists expect

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<v Speaker 12>China to wait until early next year to lower policy

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<v Speaker 12>rates after two cuts this year. In Hong Kong, I'm

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<v Speaker 12>von Mann Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 9>Radio iphonemaker Honhai is expanding its footprint in India with

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<v Speaker 9>another one point six billion dollar investment. Bloomberg Joan Wong

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<v Speaker 9>has more from Hong Kong.

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<v Speaker 10>Han Hi says a huge budgeted expense will be used

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<v Speaker 10>for construction projects and what it calls operational needs, but

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<v Speaker 10>the company did not identify any locations. Honghai is among

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<v Speaker 10>many firms looking to diversify its business outside of China

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<v Speaker 10>due to geopolitical concerns. In September, the company set on

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<v Speaker 10>LinkedIn it planned to double the size of this business

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<v Speaker 10>in India. Fox Con already operates nine production camp as

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<v Speaker 10>it's there, and sales in the country run to about

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<v Speaker 10>ten billion dollars annually.

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<v Speaker 8>In Hong Kong.

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<v Speaker 10>To end long Bloomberg Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining us now on the program is Larry Lieberg, Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 1>Editor on International Economics and Security team at Bloomberg, to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss the latest with Israel and Tomas.

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<v Speaker 10>Larry.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to have you with us. The pause is a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. Let's hope it continues. Can we make the

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<v Speaker 1>jump in saying we don't know what both sides are thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>but can we sort of guess that both sides are

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<v Speaker 1>a bit tired of fighting, but there's just no easy

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<v Speaker 1>way out.

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<v Speaker 13>That's exactly true, and they're tired enough at least for

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<v Speaker 13>the moment that they're extending their agreement to swap hostages

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<v Speaker 13>for prisoners. And today, as planned, there was another exchange.

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<v Speaker 13>Eleven freed hostages arrived in Israel, and in the rather

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<v Speaker 13>elaborate one to three ratio of these deals, thirty three

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<v Speaker 13>pound Allestinians were released from imprisonment by Israel. But the

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<v Speaker 13>lasting impact of this because of the question you suggest,

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<v Speaker 13>and everybody's founded in their interest to extend this for

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<v Speaker 13>two more days, so rather than ending tomorrow, it'll go

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<v Speaker 13>through Thursday. Is there hope after that? Biden and others

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<v Speaker 13>certainly say so, And they also emphasize the improvement not

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<v Speaker 13>enough UN experts would tell you, but an improvement in

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<v Speaker 13>the delivery of humanitarian supplies to Gaza.

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<v Speaker 9>How are the calculations made, though, Larry, Because if Israel

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<v Speaker 9>is declaring that it will not stop until every last

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<v Speaker 9>Hamas membrance of order is gone, then presumably these prisoners

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<v Speaker 9>don't have very long right according to Israel's logic.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, yes, but Israel's political logic is also that all

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<v Speaker 13>are almost all of these hostages are Israelis, and there's

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<v Speaker 13>a very very strong political movement in Israel that they

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<v Speaker 13>must be brought back, and so that provides an incentive.

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<v Speaker 13>But yes, Israel said it can't just end this and

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<v Speaker 13>leave Hamas in place to attack again. And Hamas says

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<v Speaker 13>it's not giving up. So this clearly isn't a permanent

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<v Speaker 13>solution to anything. But the extension of it suggests everybody's

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<v Speaker 13>interest for the moment in extending it, and that also

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<v Speaker 13>that everybody's got a spin on this. Prime Minister and

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<v Speaker 13>Yahoo of Israel his offer. His office issued a statement

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<v Speaker 13>that Israel will welcome back our eleven abducted citizens will cutter. It,

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<v Speaker 13>which has served a crucial intermediary role, didn't describe the

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<v Speaker 13>as israelis taking us of their dual citizenship. It described

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<v Speaker 13>these as three French citizens, two Germans and six Argentinians

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<v Speaker 13>who are released today. So everybody has an angle. Everybody has,

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<v Speaker 13>so art In said up to continue playing this very

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<v Speaker 13>important game but there's clearly an end insight at.

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<v Speaker 1>Some point, Larry, there's a massive imbalance in those killed.

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas has some fifteen thousand gosins and Israeli say that

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hundred Israelis were killed in the initial attacks by Amas.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering, I just want to get your thoughts on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about this with Michael Heath, one of our

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues yesterday. Does that suggest in any way more or

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<v Speaker 1>less likelihood that Israel would agree to a longer pause?

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<v Speaker 1>And if you could also add to that, what does

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<v Speaker 1>it say about the international position here and the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>coming from other countries.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I think there is a lot of pressure. Israel

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<v Speaker 13>would tell you that, first of all, at the beginning

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<v Speaker 13>of this Hamas, in a surprise attack, killed the most

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<v Speaker 13>Israelis who were which are murdered since the Holocaust. That's

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<v Speaker 13>an existential question for them. Response though has not met

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<v Speaker 13>with the approval of the world community, because they have

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<v Speaker 13>killed many times that of civilians in Gaza, and they

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<v Speaker 13>say with with I think clearly some truth that it

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<v Speaker 13>is in part because Hamas burrows under it has this

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<v Speaker 13>extraordinary series of tunnels under the civilian population. But still

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<v Speaker 13>The idea that they're using such large bombs us applied

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<v Speaker 13>in many cases, and that it's causing so many civilian

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<v Speaker 13>casualties have not gained favor in the world community.

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<v Speaker 9>Laurie, how much does Hamas know about all of the hostages?

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<v Speaker 9>So there seems to be suggestion that some are lost

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<v Speaker 9>or you know.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, well, they may know that some have died. They

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<v Speaker 13>also there also have been some indications that are other

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<v Speaker 13>terrorist offshoots that may have grabbed some of them, and

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<v Speaker 13>they may not have complete leeway to deal for them.

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<v Speaker 13>And so we may not get to the end of

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<v Speaker 13>this even if everyone wanted to keep extending it, with

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<v Speaker 13>all of the hostages freed and with all of them live.

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<v Speaker 13>And that's one of the mysteries and one of the

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<v Speaker 13>sad parts of this whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you mentioned you mentioned US munitions, and we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the imbalance in the number of dead. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>hearing anything about from Congress or the administration about conditionality

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<v Speaker 1>being placed on Israel in terms of future conduct of

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<v Speaker 1>this war.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, there certainly have been some questions raised by some Democrats,

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<v Speaker 13>Liberal Democrats especially, and even I think the President made

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<v Speaker 13>some passing remark it may not have been quite what

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<v Speaker 13>some people read into it, suggesting that the US is

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<v Speaker 13>concerned about providing weapons and how they're used in will

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<v Speaker 13>or should play some constraints on it. The problem again

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<v Speaker 13>is on the other side is I would say we

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<v Speaker 13>can't get to those underground tunnels, that we can't get

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<v Speaker 13>to those leaders with lightweight weapons, and that's the great

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<v Speaker 13>dilemma at this point.

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