WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial: “Mia” Takes the Stand

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<v Speaker 1>Neither folks did. Is Friday, May thirtieth, the third week

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<v Speaker 1>of testimony in the Ditty trial is wrapping up today.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ MTJ Holmes

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<v Speaker 1>alongside my partner Amy Roboch and we continue to be

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<v Speaker 1>your one stop shop to get you caught up on

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<v Speaker 1>everything going on in the Ditty trial day in and

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<v Speaker 1>day out and robes. I don't know how to keep

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<v Speaker 1>being surprised, shocked, horrified by what we hear. We've heard

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<v Speaker 1>so much already, but then another day now is in

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<v Speaker 1>the books. Were very important witness and here we go again.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't believe what we heard.

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<v Speaker 2>I know this witness in particular actually testified anonymously. She

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<v Speaker 2>went under the name or the pseudonym of Mia, but

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<v Speaker 2>she was one of Ditty's personal assistants who claims and

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<v Speaker 2>testified that she was raped and sexually assaulted by Ditty.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was up there weeping on the stand. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>to your point, you think you've heard it all. And

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<v Speaker 2>these witnesses are consistent the picture that they are painting,

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<v Speaker 2>the stories that are telling are all consistent with this

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<v Speaker 2>theme of Diddy being a horrifically violent and angry man

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<v Speaker 2>who did whatever he wanted to whommeever he wanted, when

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted, and it's just appalling if you're believing what

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<v Speaker 2>each of these witnesses are testifying to. They are painting

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<v Speaker 2>the picture of an evil, maniacal tyrant.

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<v Speaker 1>And we do have to give your heads up. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff you're going to hear in this episode

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<v Speaker 1>here quite disturbing and probably farther than we have gone

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<v Speaker 1>before in some of the stuff. But it's important for

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<v Speaker 1>to get the story across for what they were saying

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<v Speaker 1>on the stand. But rose to your point about we

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<v Speaker 1>have heard so much about freak coughs. You think you've

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<v Speaker 1>heard it all. This witness offered some more extra detail

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<v Speaker 1>that we were still like, Eh, we've heard so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're telling almost the same but they're coming from

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<v Speaker 1>different perspectives, they have different details, and each time they're

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<v Speaker 1>adding something to the story. But to your point, it's consistent.

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<v Speaker 1>The stories line up.

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<v Speaker 2>They really do, and they're all like each witness that

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<v Speaker 2>gets on the stand is corroborating what the witness before

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<v Speaker 2>them said and before them said, and then making it

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<v Speaker 2>feel and seem and appear to be even worse than

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<v Speaker 2>we originally thought so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yesterday, the day started with Deontae Nash on the

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<v Speaker 1>stand celebrity stylists who had been up on the stand

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<v Speaker 1>the day before, testifying to all kind of horrific things

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<v Speaker 1>he saw. But we were looking I say looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to not in a pleasant way, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people were highly anticipating the next witness that was going

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<v Speaker 1>to come up. We just mentioned her name, Mia, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all we know. But she's the former assistant to Ditty,

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<v Speaker 1>also a close friend to Cassie Ventura. Fine, this is

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<v Speaker 1>some of the most compelling stuff I have heard. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just compelling robes in what she said, but how

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of court room observers described her demeanor and

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<v Speaker 1>how she talked up there. Yes, the crying and so

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<v Speaker 1>but they said she barely was able at times to

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<v Speaker 1>get above a whisper as she talked on the stand.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that too, that that just spoke to It

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<v Speaker 2>was almost like it was hard to say it out loud,

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<v Speaker 2>so she had to say it softly in order to

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<v Speaker 2>get it out because it's powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly when she did, is when she had to

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<v Speaker 1>describe yes, being allegedly raped by Sean Combs or get

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<v Speaker 1>into some of those details. But before they started this

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<v Speaker 1>was we told her like how she possibly testifying in

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<v Speaker 1>court anonymously, so she was sitting there everybody in the

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<v Speaker 1>court could see her. But the judge made pretty clear

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<v Speaker 1>early on how this was going to go, and he

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<v Speaker 1>gave them strict gave the court strict instructions.

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<v Speaker 2>At a time, there were to be no descriptions of

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<v Speaker 2>what Mia actually looked like. In fact, the courtroom sketch

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<v Speaker 2>artist drew a blank face. Now, the jurors did get

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<v Speaker 2>to know her name, so I think that's important to know.

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<v Speaker 2>She did put her name out there in the courtroom

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<v Speaker 2>and stood by what she was saying. But the entire

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<v Speaker 2>courtroom was instructed to not obviously repeat her name or

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<v Speaker 2>describe her in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>And she is critical. She is one of the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that the prosecution has built almost this entire case on.

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<v Speaker 1>She is an alleged victim of Sean Ditty Combs. She

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<v Speaker 1>spent some really robes intimate time with him. It sounds like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she said she kept an apartment here in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>but as his assistant and being someone he needed all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, she stayed at his homes with him, is

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<v Speaker 1>what she explained, and that is where I mean she

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<v Speaker 1>I think she even used countless times that assaults or

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<v Speaker 1>violence that she saw, but she described in particular robes

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<v Speaker 1>being at his house, a place where she said she

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't allowed to lock her door when she stayed there,

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<v Speaker 1>but she described an incident one day she was sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>there and she was awakened.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. She says that Diddy, of course, yes forbade

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<v Speaker 2>her to lock her door in his home. So she

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<v Speaker 2>says he came into the room, climbed on top of her,

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<v Speaker 2>penetrated her, and she said that she was quietly just

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<v Speaker 2>taking it and just let him do what he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to do, because she said she felt like she

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<v Speaker 2>was unable to say no. She said she feared retaliation.

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<v Speaker 2>This quote that she said, or this testimony that she gave,

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<v Speaker 2>was jarring to me. Even though she's describing the rape,

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<v Speaker 2>she's describing what happened. When she said this, it made

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<v Speaker 2>me feel sick. She said, I couldn't tell him no

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<v Speaker 2>about a sandwich. I couldn't tell him no about anything.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no way I could tell him no, because

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<v Speaker 2>then he would know that I thought what he was

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<v Speaker 2>doing was wrong. And then I would be a target.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, some books will try to I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>tough to get your hand around. It's tough to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>We've done stories and many people, most people in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>are familiar or know someone in some way form of

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<v Speaker 1>fashion who's been probably a victim in some way of

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<v Speaker 1>sexual assault, sexual violence.

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<v Speaker 2>In some way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always complex and to understand, well, why didn't she

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<v Speaker 1>just run, or why she didn't she just scream and

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<v Speaker 1>all these things. And this woman was explaining so much

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<v Speaker 1>of what was happening to her where she was asleep

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<v Speaker 1>in his house. The thing that woke her up, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>was the weight of someone on top of her. That

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<v Speaker 1>is how she woke up. And in that moment, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>she froze. He didn't say much of anything to her. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, he said, sh is how he was telling

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<v Speaker 1>her to behave. She said, she completely froze. He put

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<v Speaker 1>his hand down, took his mands off with one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>and put himself inside her. And she said she just

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<v Speaker 1>lay there and froze and didn't move. That's tough to hear,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's also tough to understand. But when she starts

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<v Speaker 1>to explain more of her story and that there is

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<v Speaker 1>fear that you must do what this man says. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to lose your job, You're going to lose

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<v Speaker 1>your career, You're gonna lose your future, and in some

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<v Speaker 1>cases you might lose your life. Is what these folks

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<v Speaker 1>describe being around this guy was.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's hard to understand it all because

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<v Speaker 2>human beings either you either fight. You either fight or

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<v Speaker 2>you freeze. And the freezing thing I get as a woman,

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<v Speaker 2>I totally absolutely relate to that. And she described it

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<v Speaker 2>so chillingly, and she also talked about how that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>the only time. I think she said it began in

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<v Speaker 2>her mid twenties when she started to work for him.

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<v Speaker 2>During one of his birthday parties, his fortieth birthday party

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<v Speaker 2>at the Plaza Hotel here in New York City, she

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<v Speaker 2>says Combs kissed her and put his hand up her

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<v Speaker 2>dress at the party, and she said she thought it

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<v Speaker 2>would never happen again, But then, of course, that incident

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<v Speaker 2>happened in that bedroom that she was staying at at

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<v Speaker 2>Ditty's house. But then she said another time she was

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<v Speaker 2>packing a back for him in his closet and he

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<v Speaker 2>came into the closet. She said, his penis was exposed.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, he grabbed her head and forced her to

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<v Speaker 2>give him oral sex um.

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<v Speaker 1>She described, And again, I don't know if you up

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<v Speaker 1>in front of you there, I kind of remember on

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<v Speaker 1>the top of my head how long she worked for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a matter of several years, if

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<v Speaker 1>I have this right. But she said every time there

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<v Speaker 1>was an assault, she saw it thought it was the

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<v Speaker 1>last time. It was interesting to hear her say when

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<v Speaker 1>any assault was over, alleged assault was over, she just

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<v Speaker 1>went back to business as usual, just went back to

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<v Speaker 1>doing her job, and everybody just went about doing things

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<v Speaker 1>the way they were. But it was crazy to hear

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<v Speaker 1>every time it happened. She said, Okay, it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>happen again. If it does happen again, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be ready. I'm going to be prepared. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>so much time in between them, there was no rhyme

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<v Speaker 1>or reason. They were completely random. So the next time

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<v Speaker 1>what happened comes out of nowhere. She said. There was

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<v Speaker 1>just so much time and distance between the incidents that

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<v Speaker 1>you never knew when a way.

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<v Speaker 2>She would let her guard down. And by the way

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<v Speaker 2>she worked for Diddy for eight years, beginning in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and nine, and she said the highs were really

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<v Speaker 2>high and the lows were really low. And we've heard

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<v Speaker 2>that almost exact same sentiment repeated by other and says

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<v Speaker 2>who have taken the stand who have worked for Diddy.

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<v Speaker 2>But not only did she testify to sexual assaults, she

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<v Speaker 2>talked about what he physically assaulted her with. She said

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<v Speaker 2>he'd thrown her against the wall, he threw her into

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<v Speaker 2>a pool, he threw an ice bucket over her head,

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<v Speaker 2>He slammed her arm into a door. She talks about

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<v Speaker 2>how he threw a bowl of spaghetti at her head,

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<v Speaker 2>a computer at her head, WiFi went out right exactly

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<v Speaker 2>like for almost seemingly insignificant things or things she had

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely no control over. She would be suddenly the subject

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<v Speaker 2>of violence if he got pissed off. Basically, she also

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<v Speaker 2>said this, which I thought was just such an interesting thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and just get your head around where his head was.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, he could ask you to do seventeen thousand

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<v Speaker 2>things at one time that would range from cracking his

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<v Speaker 2>knuckles to writing his next movie to doing his taxes,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was all on a whim. You never knew

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<v Speaker 2>when a request was coming, but if you couldn't figure

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<v Speaker 2>out how to do it, you might be in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a prosecut that said, talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how difficult things were and how tough the environment was,

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<v Speaker 1>and asked her directly, well, what determined what the mood

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be like on a particular day. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>puff's mood that you just okay, let's see how he is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you and I have both worked with

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<v Speaker 1>people in this industry before, in news where every day

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<v Speaker 1>everybody is waiting to see what that person's mood is,

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<v Speaker 1>and then everybody in the studio has to walk on

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<v Speaker 1>eggshells depending on that person's mood. To think that this

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<v Speaker 1>is the person that you depend on for your life,

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<v Speaker 1>your money, your career, your everything. You're tiptoeing around just

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<v Speaker 1>to see what the mood is. They describe a horrific

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<v Speaker 1>experience going on, and this young lady look I talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the experience of what she had. She actually she's testifying, Yes, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>she's compelled to testify. She says she wanted to die

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<v Speaker 1>with this information. She didn't want to ever have to

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<v Speaker 1>She was so ashamed and humiliated by what she had

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<v Speaker 1>gone through and what she had done and allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>happen to her to a certain degree that she did

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<v Speaker 1>not she had the plan of going to her grave

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<v Speaker 1>with never telling somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the shame and guilt, And anyone who has

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<v Speaker 2>faced any sort of sexual assault or any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>abuse understands that shame and guilt are a part of it,

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<v Speaker 2>because you think to yourself, I could have done more,

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<v Speaker 2>I should have done more, I should have done this,

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<v Speaker 2>And not that you believe you deserved it, but you

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<v Speaker 2>believe that you could have done something to stop it

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<v Speaker 2>or change it. And that's part of the reason why

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<v Speaker 2>so many women and so many abuse victims never come forward.

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<v Speaker 2>So to even see her on the stand and admit

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<v Speaker 2>that and talk about these unthinkable, unspeakable acts, I really

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<v Speaker 2>have to give her and so many of the other

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<v Speaker 2>people who've gotten up on that witness stand and said

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<v Speaker 2>what they didn't want to say, and said what they

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<v Speaker 2>never intended to ever tell anyone else, and had to

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<v Speaker 2>do it in front of the world, with Ditty just

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<v Speaker 2>a few feet in front of them. I cannot imagine

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<v Speaker 2>what that was like. But she also described that part

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<v Speaker 2>of her job was to clean up and we've heard

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<v Speaker 2>this from other assistants who worked for him, either to

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<v Speaker 2>set up or to clean up hotel rooms after some

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<v Speaker 2>of these freak offs, and she describes the scenes, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was just jarring to hear what she said. She

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<v Speaker 2>had to clean up.

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<v Speaker 1>This is we've been hearing a lot about freak off,

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<v Speaker 1>to the point I don't want to hear anything else

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<v Speaker 1>about a freak off. But she's still giving this information.

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<v Speaker 1>She described what did she say, a nightmare? The rooms

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<v Speaker 1>looked like a nightmare when they were done. So we

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<v Speaker 1>talked previously about the hotel staff out in California. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a profile on Ditty, right, so when he was

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<v Speaker 1>staying there, they knew, all right, we're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to close the whole place down for a little while

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<v Speaker 1>to clean. And that so places knew they'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>clean this. Mia came in to clean before the other

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<v Speaker 1>folks cleaned, because she had to pick up the little

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<v Speaker 1>things that need to be left behind any signs of

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<v Speaker 1>actual ditty, but oil and blood stains on the damn furniture.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the melted wax candles, you heard about that too,

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<v Speaker 2>But yet she just described just wet towels and blood

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<v Speaker 2>and urine and just fluids. I just I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>imagine being tasked with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister job, official job. This is part of her responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>and duties as an assistant to this guy is to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, according to her. So we I say, and

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<v Speaker 1>again the freak calls became the headline baby oil and

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. But we are hearing that's just nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about them. I mean that, you can't I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear anybody crack another joke about baby oil and frankliness.

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<v Speaker 1>People even cracking jokes about this hearing this now, these

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<v Speaker 1>were horror shows for folks. Ugh, and this line came

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. Everybody it was understood. We always talking,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking ropes with when everybody say, it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an open secret. Yeah, everybody in the environment

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<v Speaker 1>knew what was going on. They knew it to a

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<v Speaker 1>point that they even had a common phrase they use

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<v Speaker 1>when they had to recover. When they knew that Diddy

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<v Speaker 1>and Cassie were in recovery after a freak off, they

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<v Speaker 1>just said, man down. And everybody understood those two are

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<v Speaker 1>going to need a couple of days. So all of

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<v Speaker 1>us are going to have to keep things running because

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<v Speaker 1>those two are recovering, just man down.

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<v Speaker 2>Get your head around that. Wow, that is really insane

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<v Speaker 2>to even think about. And then she also Mia also

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<v Speaker 2>testified about being with Cassie being on vacation in Turks

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<v Speaker 2>and Caicos, I believe, and Cassie came running out of

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<v Speaker 2>the hotel room begging Mia to help her, saying, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to help me. He's going to kill me.

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<v Speaker 1>We've heard right in relation to Cassie, several accounts of

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<v Speaker 1>where this young lady feared for her life repeatedly, in

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<v Speaker 1>some cases where it sounded like she didn't care if

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<v Speaker 1>she lived or died, she just wanted to get out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is at least one scenario where a story we're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing where she was desperately trying to survive him night,

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<v Speaker 1>but they blockade. I mean, I see this. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>done this in real life, but they did it. They

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<v Speaker 1>she came into MIA's hotel room, she testified. Cazie comes

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<v Speaker 1>in there yelling scream, he's gonna kill me. Comes in

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<v Speaker 1>her home to close the door, and the two ladies

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<v Speaker 1>started barricading the door with furniture to try to I've

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<v Speaker 1>only seen a swear in horror movies. I swear the

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<v Speaker 1>only time I've seen that. I've never seen anybody or

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<v Speaker 1>heard him by doing that in real life to escape

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<v Speaker 1>a mad man that you think is gonna kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>This happens in real life in Turks and Kikos.

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<v Speaker 2>That you spend years with, that you continue to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to. That's just it. It's hard to get your

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<v Speaker 2>head around it.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I keep saying that, but this is all,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, like a horror movie. It doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like this could possibly have actually happened. But yet we

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<v Speaker 2>have witness after witness testifying to the same sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, they were able to run out the back,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, and they actually were like looking for a

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<v Speaker 2>place to go to get away from him. They found paddleboards,

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<v Speaker 2>and they actually took the palace boards and went way

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<v Speaker 2>out into the ocean to get away from Ditty. According

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<v Speaker 2>to Mia, so they could barely even see the land

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<v Speaker 2>or the buildings, like that's how far out they were.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the weather started to turn and they realized

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<v Speaker 2>they might be in trouble with mother nature. And she

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<v Speaker 2>said that they actually had to make a decision what's worse,

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<v Speaker 2>facing Mother Nature or facing Ditty. That's wild that they

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<v Speaker 2>had to. They were in that position out in the

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<v Speaker 2>ocean with a storm brewing, and they felt safer there

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<v Speaker 2>than they did near Diddy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I'm very much scared of the ocean right if

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<v Speaker 1>you get out too far. It's just intimidating one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent to think that was a safer place at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Their on paddleboard, they're not a boat, they're not rome.

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<v Speaker 1>They're out there in the elements with nothing protecting them,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a better option at the time. Jen

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<v Speaker 1>that this is all alleged incidents, but if some of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, if that's true, that that is another deep

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<v Speaker 1>die or another another way of a depth of context

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<v Speaker 1>of what these folks experienced in the world of Ditty.

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<v Speaker 1>That is insane to me that that took place. They eventually, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they obviously had to go back. Mia was also the

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<v Speaker 1>one we've been talking so much about this story as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, as we say ropes corroboration, we've heard this

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<v Speaker 1>story told several times. The incident in which Ditty was

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<v Speaker 1>attacking Cassie and Deontae Nash, the stylist, and another woman

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<v Speaker 1>who was there we now know it was Mia literally

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<v Speaker 1>had to jump on his back to try to get

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<v Speaker 1>him off of her. She ends up with a gash

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<v Speaker 1>in her head. That incident, she described, she said, this

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<v Speaker 1>was the moment that she knew they were in real

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<v Speaker 1>danger from Ditty. Of all the other stuff she had seen,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, there was something about his eye. His eyes

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<v Speaker 1>were black. It's the second time we've heard that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we've heard that. But she said, this was real fear

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<v Speaker 1>and real danger, she said, versus all the other incidents.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hard to imagine with everything she testified that she experienced,

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<v Speaker 2>and that she endured that that was the moment where

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<v Speaker 2>she felt like, actually her life, Cassie's life, Deontay's life

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<v Speaker 2>might all actually be threatened because of Ditty and his

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<v Speaker 2>rage and the black and his eyes. It's beyond scary

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<v Speaker 2>to think about. And speaking of Deonte, I found this

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<v Speaker 2>was interesting that Ditty's defense team was doing their best

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<v Speaker 2>to try and you know, just poke some holes in

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<v Speaker 2>what he was saying. And when they actually brought up

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<v Speaker 2>an instance when Deontay said he left a hotel room

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<v Speaker 2>because Colmbs wanted to invite a guy over, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the defense attorney said, hey, well then you must not

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<v Speaker 2>have been that concerned about Cassie's safety if you were

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<v Speaker 2>willing to leave the hotel room, and he said I

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<v Speaker 2>always did. I was always worried. And can you imagine

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<v Speaker 2>being in that inner circle, having a job and yet

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<v Speaker 2>knowing you couldn't say no to Diddy, and knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>when you left, you weren't sure if your friend was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be safe or not. That is what each

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<v Speaker 2>of these employees had to live with and are speaking

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<v Speaker 2>to that they were, yes, concerned for their own safety,

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<v Speaker 2>but always worried about Cassies when they left her alone.

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<v Speaker 1>We did get some updates as well from the court

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<v Speaker 1>as far as how this trial is going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been talking Robes about the prosecution said they're right

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<v Speaker 1>on track and even in recent days said they're ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of schedule and thought they'd be done, maybe even a

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<v Speaker 1>week earlier than they thought they would be. Said they'd

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<v Speaker 1>be six weeks, maybe just five, and like, wow, they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting through this thing. Well, now the defense has said

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<v Speaker 1>they've changing things up. Apparently something that's taking place that

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<v Speaker 1>the defense is going to I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>fully changed strategy, but they say Robes they might need

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<v Speaker 1>some more time now.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yes, initially it was supposed to be eight weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like it's going to be at least eight

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<v Speaker 2>weeks to get through all of the testimony. And do

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<v Speaker 2>we have any idea, you know, there was early speculation.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine that Diddy would take the stand, But

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<v Speaker 2>do we have any idea where Didty is going to

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<v Speaker 2>call up? Oh that did the stand to defend himself.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have that list. But they're changing something around.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what it's going to look like. Very curious

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<v Speaker 1>to see what this is going to look like now

0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:24.480
<v Speaker 1>because they have a lot of information. Now they have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to right. The defense gets to go second,

0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the prosecution will get to come back after that. But

0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.640
<v Speaker 1>they have now seen exactly what the strategy, if you will,

0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the prosecution is going to be. So they're changing potentially

0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.280
<v Speaker 1>defense strategy a little bit. And folks might be wondering, Mia,

0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:42.000
<v Speaker 1>we talk about domestic violence, We're talking about all these

0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:43.679
<v Speaker 1>assault but then people go away in a minute. He

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<v Speaker 1>starts with racketeering and prostitution, all these things. They say,

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<v Speaker 1>this is part of the legal experts will tell you

0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.720
<v Speaker 1>she is part of helping to build a case that

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<v Speaker 1>he had a criminal enterprise because forced labor. There's just

0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 1>specific legalities in there to where her story now applies

0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.520
<v Speaker 1>to this racketeering charge of an idea of he's forcing

0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:09.640
<v Speaker 1>labor up on someone. That's just a technical legal thing

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:12.200
<v Speaker 1>to prove, but it is a part of why they

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<v Speaker 1>needed to hear her story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she said she once worked for five days without sleep.

0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.760
<v Speaker 2>She said her vision was blurring. She said she burst

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<v Speaker 2>into tears and that was the only point at which

0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.880
<v Speaker 2>did he let her take a break and be off

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<v Speaker 2>the clock. But by the way, with all that we

0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.760
<v Speaker 2>just described, all of this that she claims she endured.

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<v Speaker 2>She said her base salary was fifty thousand dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about that, fifty thousand dollars a year to work

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<v Speaker 2>endlessly and to be working under those types of conditions,

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<v Speaker 2>did he people?

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<v Speaker 1>There was a time in the nineties people would have done,

0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:50.600
<v Speaker 1>in Emmy two thousands anything to get into that world.

0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:53.359
<v Speaker 1>They were on top of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>They just didn't know what that world actually was until

0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:56.400
<v Speaker 2>they were in it.

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<v Speaker 1>And now here we are, we're all finding out that

0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:01.640
<v Speaker 1>all of that means music, all of those videos, all

0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:03.800
<v Speaker 1>that stuff you love, all of those shows you watch.

0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Every time you clapped when he was on stage, every

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 1>time you saw him walk down a red carpet. Everything

0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:14.159
<v Speaker 1>looks different now and that just sucks. Mia is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be back on the stand today this morning. She

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how long. It's possible she could be up

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<v Speaker 1>there for quite a while today. The cross examination has

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<v Speaker 1>it even started, no with her, so you know, the

0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:27.439
<v Speaker 1>defense is really going to probably take some go after her.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, folks said, this one's a little more details.

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<v Speaker 1>Why sometimes we've left some things out, but some of

0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.840
<v Speaker 1>these details were horrific. But it was important to share

0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 1>her story and that's why we did it.

0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:41.120
<v Speaker 2>And we will continue to share all of the stories

0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:43.160
<v Speaker 2>that we hear on the stand each and every day.

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<v Speaker 2>So we appreciate you listening here while we try to

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<v Speaker 2>sum up what is happening in that courtroom just a

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<v Speaker 2>few blocks from where we're recording this right now. But

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<v Speaker 2>we hope you have a wonderful day and a great weekend. Everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>They do think