1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Dirty Birds. Welcome back the fans. We're back today, the 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: players are back, the coaches are back. Tarren Walk is back, 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Tory Naclaney's back. I'm Will McFadden and we are here 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: to welcome you back to the Atlanta Falcons podcast network. 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: And it was a blast seeing everybody up there on 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: the hill for the first practice of training camp. A reminder, 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Saturday is Welcome back Day across the NFL, so if 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: you've got your tickets, we're really looking forward to seeing 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: you guys out there. If you don't have tickets for 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: any future practices yet, they're free, you can go on 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: to Atlanta Falcons dot com and get some for training Camp. 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: Saturday is sold out and we're looking forward to an amazing, 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: amazing crowd. It's gonna be a lot of fun. We're 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: also gonna be having a training Camp live show on 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: our YouTube channel, So if you're not gonna be able 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: to make it out to practice, but you still want 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: to get the vibes and the energy of being out there, 18 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: to watch the second open practice of twenty twenty five 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: at and T Training Camp, pop on at nine to 20 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: twenty to the YouTube channel and just vibe. Yeah, it's 21 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: gonna be great, Terry and Raheem. I think we're gonna stop. 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: Tory's going to be on it, Dave Archer, everybody, it'll 23 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: be a really fun hang so be sure to pop 24 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: on and do that. But yeah, it was great to 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: see everybody and be back. And we kicked off the 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: day hearing from Raheem Morris and he set the stage. Taren, 27 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: you asked him the first question you got, the first 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: question of the twenty twenty five season. What'd you ask him? 29 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: What do you say, are you excited about training camp? 30 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: Yes? 31 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 2: His answer was yes. I mean, it was a simple question, 32 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: but it kind of just also had to set the 33 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: tone for what we were about to see. And yes, 34 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: he's excited, but he also and this came with my 35 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: second question later where I asked him, how do you 36 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: balance being realistic but also being optimistic And he said 37 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: that's not really up to him. It's kind of like 38 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: the identity thing. Whenever we ask him about the identity, 39 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: he's like, it's not up to me. I kind of 40 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: wish it was, but it's not like I wanted to 41 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: be up to the players on the field. So it's 42 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: the same thing when it comes to expectations for twenty 43 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: twenty five. We will see those unfold as training camp 44 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:58,279 Speaker 2: goes along. 45 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: And speaking of kind of on the field work, I 46 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: think the biggest piece of news that came out of 47 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: Raheem Morris's presser was kind of giving an overall health 48 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: update on the team and where it stands after guys 49 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: were able to kind of get some medical evaluations when 50 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: they checked in this week. It was interesting because the 51 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: guys that you expected to get the green light got 52 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: the green light. So Brayln Trice, DeMarco Helen's two guys 53 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: who were on the rise, for lack of a better 54 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: word and phrase like, they were doing so well last 55 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: training camp and then unfortunately had some season ending injuries 56 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: that kept them off. 57 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: The field all of last year. 58 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: They're back, they have Raheem Morris said, they've got the 59 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: green light, They're ready to go, They're they're trending in 60 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: the right direction. And then he made a mention of 61 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts and Kaylen McGary, two guys who didn't really 62 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: play all that much, didn't really have all that much 63 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: practice time during OTAs because they were being pretty cautious 64 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: with them as they were working through some stuff. But 65 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: I think the biggest piece of information that came out 66 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: of Raheem's presser today was about Troy Anderson, who also 67 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 3: suffered a season ending injury last year about halfway through 68 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: the season. That never really got right, that knee injury. 69 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: Despite the fact that he had these like flashes and 70 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: moments where you really liked what you saw from him, 71 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 3: there's this knee injury that has lingered for him and 72 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: they placed him on the Physically Unable to Perform List 73 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: puplist For those that need the acronym. I won't go 74 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: over all of the rules for a pup list, I 75 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: will say this isn't the end of Troy Anderson. You know, 76 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: like there is an opportunity for him to come back. 77 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: It seemed that Raheem Morris was optimistic about his health 78 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: and returning. It's just right now for training camp, we're 79 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: not going to see him. I would recommend going on 80 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: Atlanta falcons dot com reading the story that I wrote. 81 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: It lays out all of the rules and expectations for 82 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: a player going on a pup list and eventually being 83 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: activated from it. But I think ultimately, and this is 84 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: the main thing that I got from this is like, 85 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: Divine Diablo's presence is so important to this roster now, 86 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: not that it wasn't before, but I think it just 87 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: heightens when you know that Trey Anderson, in that speed 88 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: of which he has, isn't going to be out there. 89 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: Divine Diablo is a guy who should be starting right 90 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: alongside kay Neills at the inside linebacker spot. 91 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 92 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: No, absolutely. When he was brought in here the soft season, 93 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: it was kind of clear that, hey, this is a 94 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: starting caliber player. He's somebody I'm very excited to see. 95 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: But as you said, it's not the end of Troy Anderson. 96 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: What I want to know, though, is is the end 97 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: of you Tory? Like, what's up with your voice today? 98 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: It's like, how are you doing? Should you be on 99 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: the pup listing? 100 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: Is? 101 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 102 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: I woke up this morning and I didn't have a voice. 103 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: And it's funny because if I talk down here, yeah no, 104 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: if I talk in a lower register, I'm fine, But 105 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: when I get excited and I start like really getting 106 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: into it, it's like I lose it. 107 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 2: Squeaker. 108 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like wheezy on toy story that. 109 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: So I'm sorry about my voice. It is probably not 110 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: the best listening. But I'm hoping. I'm hoping that it 111 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 3: gets better in the next couple of days. I feel fine, 112 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: it's just I'm so excited. I don't have a voice. 113 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: High expectations, low octaves, the story of Tory mclaney and 114 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: twenty five. That's it. That's what we're doing here. No, 115 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: it was it is important, I think to consider the 116 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: guys coming back from injury, but also you know, looking 117 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: at the young players and the amount of young contributors 118 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: that this team is going to need to rely on. 119 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: Like that was one of the final things Marahem Morris 120 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: kind of wrapped up on at the end of his 121 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: presser was it feels like they're going to have kind 122 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 1: of like two draft classes almost and not just Michael 123 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: Pennock stepping up, but like Rucuroro, Brandon Dorles, those guys 124 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: if DeMarco Hellum's you know when he comes back, like 125 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: he missed his whole second year, so that's another young player. 126 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: Like there's gonna be a lot of young guys mixed 127 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: in with the veterans like Jake Matthews and Chris Linstrom 128 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: and Jesse Bit, you know. So it's it's gonna be 129 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: a weird like confluence of energy, and that's made it hard, 130 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: I think, to pinpoint exactly what the expectations should be 131 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: for the Falcons in twenty twenty five, and after a 132 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: whole off season of seeing what they've done and thinking 133 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: about it and just digesting it all. Like, Tory, where 134 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: was your head at for the expectations for this team 135 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: driving into training cams today? 136 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: I think I was just so excited to finally see 137 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: some ball. Like I just I hate the off season. 138 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: I also love the off season. My thing is is 139 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: like during the off season, everything is so speculative and 140 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: you're just trying to kind of piece meal together your 141 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 3: own thoughts and opinions about a team that you haven't 142 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: seen play together. And to your point, there are a 143 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 3: lot of question marks within this team about the young 144 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: pieces that they have and how much they can ultimately 145 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 3: pan out as players in this league, and this is 146 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: the year that they're going to get the opportunity to 147 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 3: show what they've got. And I think for that reason, 148 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: this team has been a hard one to pin down. 149 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 3: The expectations for this team has been difficult to pin 150 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 3: down because there are so many question marks and because 151 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: you're introducing so many different new faces, let alone a 152 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: new defensive coordinator with a whole bunch of new defensive players. 153 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 3: Like it, it really feels like everything is out there 154 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: for this team, but I don't know what they're going 155 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: to go after first and kind of what the first 156 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: dominoes to fall are going to be for some of 157 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: these players. And I think that's where I was driving 158 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: in today. I was just sitting here, like finally just 159 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: get to see something instead of like just talking about 160 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: it and going through and writing position breakdowns about what 161 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: I think these positions are going to look like. All 162 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: of those things. Now it's actually okay, we're getting closer 163 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: and closer to answers. Dominoes are starting to fall, and 164 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: we'll be able to feel pretty quickly who this team 165 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: is going to be now that they put the ball down. 166 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: It is so funny. It's like so much of what 167 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: we project for the future is informed by like the 168 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: immediate past. It's like what a team did last year 169 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: is now like where they're all going to fall in 170 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: the preseason power rankings and stuff. That's usually not the 171 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: way that this works. Typically, there's like three teams you 172 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: just never saw coming that make the plays or that 173 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: fall out of the playoffs, and so in looking at 174 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: kind of this offseason and what this team could be, 175 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: I've been hearing a lot of people say, well, twenty sixteen, right, 176 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, like second year coach, first year kind of 177 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: was weird. You yeah, started off strong and then you 178 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: faded a little bit. So like, there's obvious parallels there. 179 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: So I was doing some digging and I was like, well, 180 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: what were the vibes of that team coming out of 181 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: training camp in twenty sixteen. Were people high on the 182 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: Falcons saying they're going to the super Bowl? Not really 183 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people. They actually, I think had the 184 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: hardest schedule in the league that year. People were pointing 185 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: to that being like, man, it's going to be tough. 186 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: The Kyle Shanahan Matt Ryan chemistry bit of it didn't 187 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: go so well in twenty fifteen. What was that going 188 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: to look like in twenty sixteen? And then they lose 189 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: in Week one? It was a little bit of tough, 190 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: but obviously they catch lightning, they keep on going and 191 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: they make the super Bowl. Same thing in nineteen ninety eight, 192 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: which is weird. I know, I'm kind of making two 193 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: comparisons here that are Super Bowl teams probably fraught, like 194 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: Raheem's ears are ringing down the hallway, like hold on, yeh, expectations, 195 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: what's going on? 196 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: Right? 197 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: But that team in ninety seven they went seven to nine, 198 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: like they weren't on the cusp of the Super Bowl either, 199 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: And that year in ninety eight, they led the league 200 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: with forty four turnovers. So what I'm saying is that 201 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: the identity of teams are different, and they often do 202 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: take time to develop. So while we're all excited, and 203 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm every bit as excited as any player, you guys 204 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: or anybody, but like, they're not going to win the 205 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: Super Bowl on July twenty fourth, They're not going to 206 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl at any point in August. What 207 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: they can do is lay the foundation and put themselves 208 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: in the best chance to catch lightning in a bottle. 209 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: But the twenty sixteen team, we didn't see that coming. 210 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Ninety eight we didn't see that coming. The pieces are 211 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: in place, now, it's about putting them together and learning 212 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: as much about those pieces as possible. So that's really 213 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: where we're going to focus throughout our training camp. Coverage 214 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: is kind of like what did they do today that 215 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: we maybe have not seen before and how is that 216 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: going to impact the season. But the proclamations about like 217 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: they better, what are they doing today to win the 218 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? That's kind of not how it works, right, 219 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: So calm down, So Taran, I know you heard a 220 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: good bit from the players this today after practice kind 221 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: of talking about expectations and things like that. What did 222 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: they tell you, and specifically maybe the offense because that 223 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about defenses offseason. What did you 224 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: hear from the offense? Guys? 225 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: We're saying not to do these high expectations and meanwhile 226 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: the offense is out here like we're going to be 227 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: the best. 228 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 3: That's true. 229 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: They are staying out. 230 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 2: They're staking that like claim, they're putting their flag in 231 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 2: the ground, and they are just putting that sentence out 232 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: there in bold, italicize an underline. 233 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: What do you need to see from them to know that, hey, 234 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 1: they're hitting those expectations. 235 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: This is a message to Crystal Instrum, Michael Pennock Junior, 236 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: and Cale McGarry, who all said the word best. I 237 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: need to see this offense come together as one cohesive 238 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: unit because, as Will said, there are a bunch of 239 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: pieces into play, But we need the whole puzzle to 240 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: see the full picture. That begins with building chemistry between 241 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 2: the quarterback and the wide receivers, the quarterback and the 242 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: running back, the running back in the offensive line, the 243 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: offensive line in the quarterback. Like I could go through 244 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: every position. I mean, the only one I miss was 245 00:10:59,600 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: tight end. 246 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: But we'll get there. 247 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: And so because talking to Cale McGary today, he was like, 248 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: something we're learning about having Michael Penox junior behind them 249 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: is just like how far back he goes, the tone 250 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: of his voice, if he's like thrown off a bit, 251 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: like the feel of the pocket, And it's little things 252 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: like that that will grow. He said that could take months, 253 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: and they had that end of the season last year 254 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: and now they're building on it in off season program. 255 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: They're building on it now, so you're getting those months, 256 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: but it's still not there yet. And that's what I 257 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: need to see. I need to see that grow and 258 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: you can visibly see the offense get cleaner, be more fluid, 259 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: and just be one unit. 260 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a lot of There is a lot 261 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: of cohesion between some of the parts of the unit. 262 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: Right The offensive line has been together for a while 263 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: outside of the edition of Ryan Neusel. The Wide Receiver 264 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: Corps has kind of been in place for a little 265 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: bit now. Michael PENNOCKX is kind of the only difference, 266 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: and it's an exciting difference. But maybe that does make 267 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: it easier to like kind of get like when one 268 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: new person is coming into the building and everybody else 269 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: who was then there only has to learn one new name, 270 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: and the new guy has to learn like eleven new names. 271 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: Maybe they can figure out a way to make that 272 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: one new guy kind of learn those eleven names quicker 273 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: and really adjust and acclimate. And I think we're gonna 274 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: get our first kind of taste of that maybe during 275 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: joint practices. And there was when I was playing in 276 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: high school, like we would go through the summer two 277 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: days and workouts and things like that, but when we 278 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: got to that first scrimmage game, our coach would sit 279 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: us down and say, look, you've been going up against 280 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: the same ugly mugs in practice. It's hot, you hate 281 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: each other, but now you get to go beat up 282 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: on somebody else. Now you get to go play for 283 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: each other and you get to go just whoop somebody else's. 284 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: But I need them to take that attitude into joint 285 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: practices against the Titans and kind of come for blood, 286 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: Like I want them to dominate in joint practices because 287 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: it is a lot of talk, there is a lot 288 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: of expectation being set right now, but this is the 289 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: year of prove it to me, Like, show it on 290 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: the field, and that's gonna be the first taste against 291 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: another team, and it's a really good measuring stick. I 292 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: love that the league has starting to embrace these joint 293 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: practices more because you can only tell so much when 294 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: you're watching the same players day in and day out. 295 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: They know each other and you kind of know them. 296 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: So this will be a really good measuring stick kind 297 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: of series for them when they start those joint practices 298 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: against Titans. I need to see them go out there 299 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: and dominate. 300 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: I love joint practices yea, Like I've always loved joint practices. 301 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: I think that you find out the most about a 302 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: team at this point in the season, preseason during those 303 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: two day joint practices because a lot of times, especially recently, 304 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: the joint practices are kind of the only time that 305 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 3: you get to see the starters. It's the only time 306 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: you get to see the vets, it's the only time 307 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: that you get to see like the groups that could 308 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: potentially be your first teamers playing against. It's like good 309 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: on good. Yeah, I'm curious. I know Raheem talked. I 310 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 3: know he was asked a little bit about it today 311 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: about like what's the plan for the preseason and I'm curious, 312 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: like what did he have to say about that, because 313 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: I feel like the way that this roster is constructed, 314 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 3: the plan may need to change and evolve from what 315 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: maybe it was in the past. 316 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, this has been one of the weirdest things I 317 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: think to try to think about and game out of 318 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: the off season, right, because, yeah, last year he didn't 319 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: play the starters, you know, and that was that made 320 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: a lot of sense given who the starters were and 321 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins coming off of his injuries. So like the 322 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: sense that I'm getting because Raheem was saying, a lot 323 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: of that is is yet to be determined, and that 324 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: it will kind of be determined in joint practices in 325 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: kind of the first block of camp and into the 326 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: second block and into the third and who's able to 327 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: string together and earn and carve out a role for 328 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: themselves and so as they learn that and evaluate and 329 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: say who do we need to see more of against 330 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: live competition, who do we trust? And it's good And 331 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: then what's weird about it is the kind of groupings. Right, 332 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: if you're going to send a starter out there, you'd 333 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: want to have maybe starters around them so that they're 334 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: working on something that will feel familiar to them in 335 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: a game. So there's a lot of complicated stuff that 336 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: goes into it. And it's not as black and white 337 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: as they didn't play their starters last year, they're not 338 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: going to play their starters this year because this is 339 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: a new year and a new team. And when you 340 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: have a young quarterback and you're trying to develop chemistry 341 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: and makes a lot of sense to get him every 342 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: rep possible. 343 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: Give him a dirty pocket exactly right, you gotta. 344 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: But you can enjoin practices and so that is kind 345 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: of where last year they took the approach where it's like, 346 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: on the practice field, we can control things to a 347 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: certain degree and we can make it difficult, so we 348 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: feel confident in our ability to get game ready controlling 349 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: what we can control out here. But now it is 350 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: about maybe introducing some of these young guys a Jalen 351 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: Walker to a live situation and seeing how he reacts 352 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: in an uncontrolled environment. So we don't have an answer 353 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: really yet. It's kind of gonna unroll as it goes. 354 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: But I'm really curious to see how it does. 355 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am too, and I think for the most 356 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 3: part too. Raheem even said like we'll find out more 357 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: like we'll make a decision later because it ultimately depends 358 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: on how much you can get done in the next 359 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: two weeks and also in those joint practice situations. 360 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: I love that mindset though, and it just kind of 361 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: opens the door to different opportunities and it's not kind 362 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: of putting the cart before the horse. 363 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 364 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely, somebody who could have a lot of opportunities this year. 365 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts, if the first practice is anything to be believed, 366 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: he was getting targeted early and often. Toy is this 367 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: is this real? The new Michael Pennocks insertion? Is that 368 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: gonna get Kyle Pitts the ball or no? 369 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: Well, I need to see that. I need That's the 370 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: one thing in training camp that I keep I know 371 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: all of the topics of conversation this offseason have been 372 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: about Kyle Pits and I understand that. I understand why 373 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: this is a guy who's going into his fifth year 374 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: and production hasn't been there the last few years. Even 375 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: Rahie Morris said, we're chasing what his rookie year was. Yeah, 376 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: and it hasn't been that way. And I think like 377 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: something that really stuck out to me today at practice 378 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: was this is Michael Pennox's first true training camp practice 379 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: in front of fans. Everything's going on, This is his 380 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: first opportunity to be QB one, to be introduced as 381 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 3: QB one, And every first that he had today at 382 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: practice involved Kyle Pitts. His very first pass during eleven 383 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: on eleven was this twenty yard out route, beautiful to 384 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts. The first thing that he that Michael Pennock 385 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: says in his post practice press conference is got the 386 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 3: ball a lot to kp Today. That's gonna happen some 387 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 3: more like so, the fact that this is somebody who's 388 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 3: in this environment and still making a point, whether it 389 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: be on the field or off the field, to put 390 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 3: a spotlight on Kyle Pitts. I think that matters. I 391 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: think it's intentional, I think it's strategic. I don't think 392 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: Michael Penix is sitting there just like, Oh, I'm gonna 393 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: talk about Kyle Picts just because I want to know. 394 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: I think he's sitting there being like, No, this is 395 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: a guy who I trust, and I'm gonna show people 396 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: that because something else that's interesting is like a part 397 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: of what Michael Penix is doing right now. It's probably 398 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: a little bit of uncomfortable, Like he's probably in an 399 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: uncomfortable setting because this is again your very first practice 400 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: as the starting quarterback of the Atlanta Falcons. Like with 401 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 3: all of these fans on the hill, there's like sixteen thousand, 402 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 3: sixteen thousand, sixteen hundred people sitting on the hill watching 403 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: and you're trying to work on your chemistry and trying 404 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: to do that. I think, like what is obvious to 405 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: me is that there is a prioritization with Michael Pennix 406 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: and Cowpits, with Michael Pennick's working to get the ball 407 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: to Cowpits. And again, I know it's early, and this 408 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 3: is going against everything I know. People are sitting there 409 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 3: like Tori, don't suck me in again, like, don't give 410 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 3: me a false hope. Like I tweeted something about like 411 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: Cole Pits being Michael Pennick's favorite target on one on 412 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: ones in barstool picked it up and it was. 413 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: Like the okay, Grandpa, like yeah. 414 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 3: It's just but I just have to I have to go, 415 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 3: like I can only go with what I've seen In 416 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: this one practice we saw Cole Pits have a very 417 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: obvious and intentional connection with Michael Pennock. 418 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: That's why we keep talking about him because it is enticing. 419 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: You see the flashes and you see the potential there, 420 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: and it is a little bit of a savvy move, 421 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: I think from Michael Pennix, Like, yeah, I saw the 422 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: movie F one recently and there is a there's a 423 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,239 Speaker 1: there's a scene in there. It's not a spoiler, it's 424 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: not a spoiler. There's a scene where Brad Pitt shows 425 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: his kind of veteran savvy in a moment and in 426 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: an exchange where it's all kind of set up and 427 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: it looks like it's ego on ego, and then you realize, like, no, 428 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: it's actually more about him stepping aside and doing what 429 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: is right for the his other driver, the much younger 430 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: kind of like I'm I'm almost like fooling you here 431 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: a little bit, but I'm given, I'm pushing you where 432 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: you need to go and get in your mind where 433 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: it needs to be, and you know, you could see 434 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: like a reality where that is a little bit of 435 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: what's going on here. It's kind of like we're getting 436 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: you where you need to go because we need something 437 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: from you. And having a quarterback who recognizes that, like 438 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 1: I need him for this to work. I love that. 439 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: I love seeing him in his own way kind of 440 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: step in and like, yeah, let's do this. I'm influencing 441 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: it kind of subtly and picking me up. And if 442 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: they developed that chemistry in the way that like Desma 443 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: Ritter did with Drake London and kind of they become 444 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: like a go or Kirk with Darnell. Like if early 445 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: on we see MPJ and Kyle Pitts like really developing 446 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: that go to guy type of connection, I wouldn't hate 447 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: it at all. 448 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: Well, And Kyle was also working on his blocking too, 449 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 2: because at the end of practice I definitely noticed him 450 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 2: off to the side with Kevin Koger, his position coach, 451 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: whereas normally it's like him, but John Robinson and Drake 452 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: London kind of hanging out with the quarterbacks in the 453 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 2: center of the field while special teams is going on, 454 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 2: but Kyle was off on his own and you could 455 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: tell he was working with the pads and specifically on blocking. 456 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 2: So it's good to see him kind of trying to 457 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 2: capitalize and improve on both areas of his game individually 458 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: and with Michael Pennock Junior. 459 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Taren, what's the second thing that you want to 460 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: see out of the Falcons this training kit. 461 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to the flip side of the ball. 462 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 3: And we need to talk about the beefix. 463 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: I think there's going to be a lot more youth 464 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: in the starting defense this year, whereas last year. I 465 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: think it was the opposite. Rookies are going to play immediately. 466 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: Raheem Morris has said it, and we saw it today 467 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: when Jalen Walker and James Piers Junior both lined up 468 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: with the starting defense against the second team offense during 469 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: eleven on eleven work. And I think it's a completely 470 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: different path than what they did last year. Was say, 471 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: Brandon Dorles and Ruca Roro Row and. 472 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 4: You're smiling at how I said, wrong, brain fart okay 473 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 4: and Ruca Row, It's great, it's. 474 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: The best name. 475 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: Exquisitely, thank you. 476 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: I just enunciate every single part of it. 477 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: You have to hit all the roads, all. 478 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: The roads for the boat anyway, it's just a very 479 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: different thing. And so I want to see that actually 480 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 2: play out and work out in the exodisition games, if 481 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: they play, or in joint practices or continuing on in 482 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: just eleven eleven work. It's something I don't want to 483 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 2: see once and then it'd be let go in the 484 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: veterans swoop back in. I want to see it throughout 485 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: and see that rotation continue where the youth is involved. 486 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I do have high hopes and expectations 487 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: for the four draft picks on the defense side of 488 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: the ball, and I think there are some young defenders 489 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: kind of across the board who we may not be 490 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: that familiar with you, who have been identified for kind 491 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: of what they can bring to the table. I think 492 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson today had a really really good play down 493 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: the field, and so I kind of piggybacking off of 494 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: what you want to see with the rookies really owning 495 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: and growing into their starting roles sooner rather than later. 496 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: I need three guys who were kind of not talking 497 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 1: about right now to step up and play above and 498 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: maybe earn a bigger role than we expect because for 499 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: any team, I think really to truly elevate themselves to 500 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: that level of contender, you need those eyes that you 501 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: didn't really see. Zach Bond last year is a great example. Now, 502 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying somebody has to come in and basically 503 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: be Kate Ellis, because that's what Zach Bond and Kate 504 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: Ellis were the two guys that did that last year. 505 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: But I'm thinking of like a Brian Pool in twenty sixteen. 506 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: You know, can somebody maybe it did, Lamar Jackson, the 507 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: cornerback that I just named, or anybody on kind of 508 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: like the offense. Cadarrel Hodge was a great example I 509 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: think last year where he did a little bit more 510 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: than you needed him necessarily to do. So who were 511 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: kind of three guys? That's all I'm asking for is 512 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: three guys this preseason who identify themselves, whether it's a 513 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: Ta Kwan Graham or a Zach Harrison or somebody like that, 514 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: who all, right, we thought we were going to get 515 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: this from you, and now we're pleasantly surprised. We're getting 516 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more. And that's gonna have a ripple effect. 517 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: That's how you elevate your depth, That's how you help 518 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: like your starters. So that is really kind of the 519 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: one thing I'm going to look at in terms of 520 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: how can we heighten the floor and maybe amplify the 521 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: ceiling a little bit as well. 522 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 2: It is one practice. But somebody who did catch my 523 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: eye that would fall under that category as Khalid Kareem. Yeah, 524 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: because I know he was getting reps with the starters 525 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: and I would love to see that for him. 526 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: Yep. I think any any of the guys along that 527 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: defensive line group of is j D bertrand you know, 528 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: like there are some candidates on this team where they 529 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: really could step up. I think my CU's was a 530 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: good example last year of one player who kind of 531 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: did that. So who were going to be those guys 532 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: this year? I need to see somebody separate themselves. But 533 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: let's wrap it up here with your final thing, Tori, 534 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: what do you need to see? 535 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 3: I need to see Michael Panicks Junior play with some confidence, 536 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: not that we haven't seen him do that. I think 537 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 3: that he was very confident in those three starts that 538 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: he had last year. I think that he is incredibly 539 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 3: confident in his arm strength and his talent as he 540 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 3: should be. I think that the first time he threw 541 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 3: the ball down the field today, I was sitting there like, oh, man. 542 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: Like you feel it. 543 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 3: You feel that arm strength and you feel that talent, 544 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: and it was really interesting. And we were talking about 545 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: this before we had even started recording. But being in 546 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 3: his press conference today, the Michael Panix who was standing 547 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: in front of me differed greatly I think from the 548 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 3: Michael Pennocks who stood before me back in December, which 549 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: makes sense, like he was new, the situation was difficult. 550 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 3: Now he's had six months of absolutely knowing, Hey, I'm 551 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: QB one, this is my team. And I felt that 552 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 3: from him today. I felt that from him in eleven 553 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 3: on elevens. I felt that from him when he's addressing 554 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 3: the media about the connection that he has with his 555 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 3: players and what he feels like. I think the moment 556 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: that stook out to me was I asked him I 557 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 3: was like, we were talking to Zach Robinson prior to Ota, 558 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: so kind of back in the spring about what his 559 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: off season workload looked like. And I remember he said, 560 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: I went back and I watched a lot of Washington 561 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: tape of Michael Pennix, just trying to refresh myself on 562 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: what he does best, what he's most comfortable at, how 563 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: I can best utilize him in what I'm asking him 564 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: to do. And so I asked Michael Pennock today, I 565 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: was like, did you feel that in your own conversations 566 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 3: with Zach Robinson over the course of the last few 567 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: months of just kind of you know, getting all the 568 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: ducks in a row? And he kind of laughed and 569 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 3: he goes, I mean, yeah, I guess, but for the 570 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: most part, like I'm just sitting there telling him, like, 571 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: call it up, call it for me. I'll run out there, 572 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: I'll do it, like And I think that to me, 573 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: like the confidence, the ability of like allowing the opportunity 574 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: for your offensive coordinator just be like, hey, I'm gonna 575 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 3: see if he can rip it here, like let him 576 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: go rip it. And I think, like, so when I say, 577 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: like I want to see a confidence in Michael Pennock, Juior, 578 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: that's not to say that I don't already see that. 579 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 3: It's just kind of like I do see that. I 580 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 3: see that today. I saw that, you know, six months ago. 581 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 3: It's can I see that every day? And can this 582 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 3: offense feel like it did today because today it felt 583 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 3: like Michael Pennock Junior's offense in games. 584 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 585 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 586 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: I think the most important thing too, is that it's 587 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: a real natural confidence like the quarterback it's not forrest. Yeah. 588 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: The leadership aspect of the quarterback position is really kind 589 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: of tricky because it is very and anybody who watched 590 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: I think Quarterback on Netflix like can see the different 591 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: styles of leadership that some of the games best have, 592 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: but it resonates with their team because it's genuine to 593 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: who they are. And that's the biggest thing is just 594 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: like kind of don't be fake, because these are all 595 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: adults who are are like, hey, don't you know blank 596 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: on me and then tell me it's raining, Like, just 597 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: just call it as it is and let me then 598 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: do with that information what I will. And Michael Pennix 599 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: has been himself even as he's elevated, I think his 600 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: leadership abilities and kind of self confidence, So I love 601 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: that that is something that we absolutely needed to see. 602 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: Maybe the most important thing given the position that he plays, right, Yeah. 603 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 3: And I think just for the simple fact of the 604 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: matter that the Falcons drafted him with the number eight 605 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: overall pick with the expectation that he was going to 606 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: be their quarterback of the future. That future is now. 607 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 3: So what does he do with that now? 608 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: Yea? 609 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 3: And how does that confidence piece play into it as 610 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: he's working on things like I don't know, just the 611 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 3: touch on a ten yard out route, you know, like 612 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: instead of just every single time going deep down the field, 613 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 3: Like we know that arm strength, but can you get 614 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 3: those little like a little wheel route to bajon Like 615 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 3: I just think those moments confidence can show up quietly, 616 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 3: And I think in those moments is when you can 617 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 3: see that too. 618 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: A small step is a big step. 619 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: Yes, As we've been told, yep. 620 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we've got a lot left to do 621 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: this summer. We're not gonna do it all in this 622 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: one show, just like the Falcons are gonna win it 623 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: all in one practice. But we will be here consistently 624 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: for you guys. Anytime there is an open practice, we're 625 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna be able to bring it to you and wrap 626 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: up and share everything that we're seeing out there. The 627 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: next time you guys will hear from us will be 628 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: on Saturday after the open practice, where again it's the 629 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: welcome Back Saturday across the NFL, so it's gonna be 630 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: really exciting and a lot of fun. Check it out 631 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: on YouTube. Nine to twenty is when it will start 632 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: our training camp show, so if you're not gonna be 633 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: out there, please at least join in, leave a comment, 634 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: engage with all the fan It is gonna be so 635 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: much fun. I don't really have anything else for you 636 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: guys today, so let's go ahead and get out of here. 637 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: It's been a long first day. Thank you guys so 638 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: much for listening and watching. Check out the YouTube channel 639 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: if you can, subscribe where you can, and we'll see 640 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: you next time.