Speaker 1: The best tech I saw at CS twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: We now know when Apple Vision Pro will go on sale.
Speaker 1: Bitcoin is back, plus your tech questions answered.
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Speaker 2: Got some great guests this week.
Speaker 1: Gary Shapiro, President and CEO at the Consumer Technology Association.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about this year's CES. Michael Fisher, superstar on YouTube.
Speaker 1: He does all the mobile phone reviews. He has a
Speaker 1: new product. He's the creator and co founder of Clicks,
Speaker 1: a physical keyboard for the iPhone. Are you ready to
Speaker 1: bring back the physical keyboard? Michael Fisher will talk about
Speaker 1: why he's doing that. And Samir Sama, he is the
Speaker 1: general manager and Vice president of Android Ecosystem at Google.
Speaker 1: He will be talking to us about all the Google
Speaker 1: announcements at CES. Yeah, we got a lot of guests today.
Speaker 1: Illi Oposen, creator and co founder of Telly. Remember this
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Speaker 1: is going to talk about the big movements this week
Speaker 1: with bitcoin. If you haven't checked your bitcoin lately, if
Speaker 1: you have some, now might be a good time. And
Speaker 1: by the way, we might also have a special guest
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Speaker 1: I said that the secret to this show is really you.
Speaker 1: It's the emails, it's the questions, it's the comments because
Speaker 1: that keeps me sort of. I see all this tech
Speaker 1: stuff at the tech shows and the products I cover,
Speaker 1: but it's you that tells me what you need to
Speaker 1: know about this stuff. So, yeah, you have an iPhone,
Speaker 1: but how do you do this? What about this app?
Speaker 1: Or what about that for my computer? Or you know,
Speaker 1: what's the best TV to get? So that's really fun
Speaker 1: and very excited about that. This week has been CS
Speaker 1: here in Las Vegas. What a week it's been. I mean,
Speaker 1: Las Vegas definitely the coldest I have ever experienced.
Speaker 2: During CS, so that's been interesting.
Speaker 1: But this was a big show because it was kind
Speaker 1: of like the CES that we have been missing in
Speaker 1: previous years because of the pandemic, because of you know,
Speaker 1: coming back from the pandemic. This year it was one
Speaker 1: hundred percent back, one hundred and thirty five thousand attendees,
Speaker 1: forty three hundred exhibitors. So I'm going to do my
Speaker 1: best throughout this show to tell you about some of
Speaker 1: the best stuff I saw.
Speaker 2: But the show has.
Speaker 1: Wrapped, a lot of people have gone home, some people
Speaker 1: have stayed for the weekend. But it was a big
Speaker 1: show this year and there's a lot to see, so
Speaker 1: I will be going over a lot of that. And
Speaker 1: by the way, they already announced next year's date, CS
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five happening January seventh through tenth, and I'm
Speaker 1: already booking my hotel room. By the way, if you
Speaker 1: want to see some of the things that I saw
Speaker 1: here at CS that I thought were pretty interesting, I've
Speaker 1: been posting them on my Instagram. So if you go
Speaker 1: to Instagram at Richon Tech, you can go and check
Speaker 1: out all little things that I've posted, all the reels
Speaker 1: that have been posted to my Instagram, So those are
Speaker 1: things that I think are interesting enough for a reel.
Speaker 1: But then if you go to my profile page, you'll
Speaker 1: see this little circle it says CS twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: That's called a highlight.
Speaker 1: That's on my Instagram page and it has all the
Speaker 1: stories that I posted, so everything that I posted. You know,
Speaker 1: stories on Instagram go away after like twenty four hours,
Speaker 1: so this way they stick around forever, well until I
Speaker 1: delete them. But you can watch all the different stories
Speaker 1: that I posted there. What else, Oh, finally got to
Speaker 1: go to the sphere, so I did a story on
Speaker 1: the sphere. I'm sure you've seen that unless you live
Speaker 1: under a Rock. This is that giant dome that looms
Speaker 1: over Las Vegas, five hundred and sixteen feet wide, three
Speaker 1: hundred six six feet tall, seating for seventeen thousand, six
Speaker 1: hundred with standing room for twenty thousand. And the big
Speaker 1: big thing about this is the exterior is completely programmable,
Speaker 1: five hundred and eighty thousand square feet of LEDs.
Speaker 2: And so you've seen the videos.
Speaker 1: I posted one on my Twitter at Richon Tech where
Speaker 1: they're playing Tetris on the exterior. It's been a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. You know, you've seen these videos on
Speaker 1: social media and the news. Now the inside has a
Speaker 1: sixteen x sixteen k ultra resolution LED screen and it's
Speaker 1: got all these other things. So it's got like wind,
Speaker 1: it's got scent, your seats move. So I was invited.
Speaker 1: We got to see the movie that they're showing this.
Speaker 1: It's really an immersive experience. It's called Postcard from Earth.
Speaker 1: It's fifty minutes and I do recommend it. It is
Speaker 1: a completely different way of storytelling. There are some surprises.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna reveal those, but it is really quite incredible.
Speaker 1: So the camera, I got a little hands on time
Speaker 1: with a camera and an interview with some folks at Sphere,
Speaker 1: which I'll err on KTLA soon. But the camera itself
Speaker 1: is just absolutely wild. I mean, it records so much video.
Speaker 1: It one drive only records I think like seventeen seconds
Speaker 1: of video or something wild like that. It's it's really,
Speaker 1: it's really quite incredible. So you go inside this sphere
Speaker 1: and there's an entire like pre show where you interact
Speaker 1: with these robots and you know, you make like a
Speaker 1: virtual avatar of yourself.
Speaker 2: And then once you go.
Speaker 1: Into the show, that's when it starts, and you're in
Speaker 1: this big dome like experience and it's not unlike anything
Speaker 1: you've ever seen. The best way I can describe it,
Speaker 1: it had a little bit of a hint of that
Speaker 1: ride at Disney the Sore and over California. And then also,
Speaker 1: you know, if you've ever been on like Back to
Speaker 1: the Future back in the day a Universal Studios, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like that, but like think about that times
Speaker 1: one hundred using today's technology, and this is stuff that's
Speaker 1: really never been done before. The screen is so big
Speaker 1: it just takes up the entire inside of this sphere
Speaker 1: and you're all in there and it's you know, the
Speaker 1: audience is just kind of all. No one's ever experienced
Speaker 1: something like this before, so it really was quite incredible.
Speaker 1: It's expensive, that is the other side of this.
Speaker 2: The tickets.
Speaker 1: You know, you're watching a movie and tickets could be
Speaker 1: one hundred to one hundred and seventy dollars so and
Speaker 1: maybe even more, I'm not sure, but it's a very
Speaker 1: expensive experience. But it was funny because I was asking
Speaker 1: some people afterwards, just you know, random people kind of
Speaker 1: after you know, we were milling about getting out of there,
Speaker 1: and I said, ah, what do you think and they said, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a lot cheaper than the Disney World. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, you come to Vegas, you want to try
Speaker 1: something different, and this is definitely something to try. By
Speaker 1: the way, the resolution for that camera is eighteen k
Speaker 1: so's it's just wild, wild, wild stuff that you see there,
Speaker 1: so highly recommended if you come to Vegas to check
Speaker 1: out sphere. That is definitely something that is a must
Speaker 1: do here.
Speaker 2: What else?
Speaker 1: Okay, So CS I talked to you about that part
Speaker 1: of CS is really making friends, schmoozing, seeing old friends,
Speaker 1: and I did a couple of things regarding that, and
Speaker 1: one of them was this YouTube dinner I went to.
Speaker 1: Now YouTube, you know, YouTubers are all over cs, you know,
Speaker 1: social media. It's such a big thing to just create
Speaker 1: little videos of the stuff you see at CS. And
Speaker 1: so I've become friends with some of these YouTubers, and
Speaker 1: you know, I got invited to this dinner and it
Speaker 1: was all these like very famous tech YouTubers. Like if
Speaker 1: you watch anything technology related on YouTube, you've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of these faces in this room. And so I
Speaker 1: felt like a little bit of a spy because I
Speaker 1: was the only non YouTuber in attendance at this dinner.
Speaker 1: But since I hang with these people and I see
Speaker 1: them at every event I go to, you know, we're
Speaker 1: all friends and we kind of know each other, and so,
Speaker 1: you know, somehow got invited. But it was really fun.
Speaker 1: I ate a lot of stuff I don't typically eat,
Speaker 1: by the way. But what's cool about this And the
Speaker 1: reason I tell you this is because, by the way,
Speaker 1: Andrew Edwards on YouTube, thanks so much for organizing all
Speaker 1: of But the reason I tell you this is because
Speaker 1: I get to learn from people.
Speaker 2: You know, I do TV, I.
Speaker 1: Do radio, but YouTube is a whole different beast, and
Speaker 1: so by hearing what they do and what they go
Speaker 1: through and what their methods are. It was really interesting
Speaker 1: to kind of see how things work for them versus me.
Speaker 1: And also just talking with like minded tech people is
Speaker 1: really fun. Because I posted a picture on my Instagram stories,
Speaker 1: you know, we're sitting there chatting and like all four
Speaker 1: of us were wearing an Apple Watch Ultra. It's like,
Speaker 1: when do you see that in a room? You know,
Speaker 1: So it's just stuff like that where you get to
Speaker 1: actually talk about the technology that you're covering, and it's
Speaker 1: it's in a very like, you know, a place where
Speaker 1: you can say what you want and you don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about you know, you can compare notes and
Speaker 1: that's always really fun.
Speaker 2: So I've really always enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: The other thing we did and I'll get some more
Speaker 1: tech stuff in a second here, but the other thing
Speaker 1: we did that was really fun.
Speaker 2: Last night.
Speaker 1: We have a little tradition where my wife meets me
Speaker 1: out after CS ends and we kind of enjoy like
Speaker 1: a dinner, nice dinner to celebrate, you know, a week
Speaker 1: of hell week. I guess if you can call it,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm doing twenty thousand steps a day here
Speaker 1: in the city. It's it's wild and I'm working like
Speaker 1: eighteen twenty hour days, so it's it's pretty wild. So
Speaker 1: we go out to like a nice dinner the last
Speaker 1: night of CS, and we checked out a new restaurant,
Speaker 1: Peter Lugers, which is in Caesar's Palace. This is like
Speaker 1: a famous steakhouse out of New York City. I heard
Speaker 1: about it growing up, you know, It's one of those
Speaker 1: places that like a lot of people have heard of,
Speaker 1: and now they have it at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: We went last night and it was incredible, the service,
Speaker 1: the whole atmosphere it was.
Speaker 2: It was pretty amazing.
Speaker 1: Eighty seven hundred square foot restaurant seats over three hundred people.
Speaker 1: Looks like the Brooklyn location. Are sort of inspired by
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn location, and they built a one million dollar
Speaker 1: dry aging room below the restaurant, so they I mean,
Speaker 1: this place is like top notch. It is a splurge.
Speaker 1: I will tell you that right now. But what isn't
Speaker 1: In Las Vegas. Everything has gotten so expensive here. But
Speaker 1: I will say this is a splurge, but it is
Speaker 1: completely worth it. The restaurant was packed. I mean you're
Speaker 1: talking this place is brand new, and there wasn't. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's an open seat in the entire house,
Speaker 1: and it seats a lot of people. The other thing
Speaker 1: I thought was really cool about this location. I thought
Speaker 1: this was brilliant the way they built the restaurant. They
Speaker 1: have sort of these frosted glass window doors that can
Speaker 1: open and close. So let's say you're there on a
Speaker 1: Tuesday night, nobody's really there. They can kind of close
Speaker 1: these window panels and they're frosted so you still see
Speaker 1: a little depth behind them, but it looks like that
Speaker 1: is the wall of the restaurant. So I thought that
Speaker 1: was a very brilliant design key because I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've ever been in a restaurant where there are
Speaker 1: not a lot of people in there and it's a
Speaker 1: giant restaurant, it feels like you don't want to be
Speaker 1: there because it's too big and there's no one there,
Speaker 1: and you feel like, well, why am I here? And
Speaker 1: so by making that design choice of being able to
Speaker 1: close these these industrial sort of windows, I thought that
Speaker 1: was very very smart. So if you're in Vegas, definitely
Speaker 1: check it out. We really really enjoyed it and we
Speaker 1: had such a nice time there. All right, Let me
Speaker 1: tell you about this. Oh gosh, this thing, this Rabbit device. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the Rabbit R one AI companion. This was
Speaker 1: launched at CS and I did not go hands on
Speaker 1: with this sadly, but it's an AI companion device and
Speaker 1: it runs this thing called rabbit OS and what it
Speaker 1: does is it aims to provide an app free experience
Speaker 1: using a large language model, so basically sort of a
Speaker 1: chat gpt AI. And so what it did was they
Speaker 1: taught this thing by looking at how humans use their
Speaker 1: apps on their smartphone, and then the device learned how
Speaker 1: to do that. So now you can say, oh, call
Speaker 1: me an uber and it will just do that and
Speaker 1: it will figure out what you would press on the
Speaker 1: app to do that. But it does it all on
Speaker 1: this little tiny device, So it carries out digital tasks
Speaker 1: through rabbits. These are personal AI agents that are trained
Speaker 1: for specific apps and workflows. It has a touchscreen, it
Speaker 1: has a push to talk button, it has a little camera,
Speaker 1: and it also has Wi Fi and cellular and so
Speaker 1: this is one hundred ninety nine dollars.
Speaker 2: This really got a lot of buzz.
Speaker 1: At the show because so many companies are trying to
Speaker 1: figure out a way of making us less reliant on
Speaker 1: our screens because we are so addicted to our smartphones.
Speaker 1: But how can you do the stuff that we do
Speaker 1: on our smartphones, Hey, send a message to this person,
Speaker 1: catch me up on my email? How do you do
Speaker 1: that without actually looking at a screen. So the idea
Speaker 1: here is that the AI does everything you would do,
Speaker 1: taps all those buttons, but it's all happening in the background,
Speaker 1: and nothing is actually showing on the screen except the
Speaker 1: information you need to know. So again, this is called
Speaker 1: the Rabbit R one and they've already sold like twenty
Speaker 1: thousand of these in pre orders one hundred ninety nine dollars,
Speaker 1: and the next pre order is open now. But you
Speaker 1: can't even get these things that to like may pretty wild.
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Speaker 1: All right, so this week I interviewed Gary Shapiro, President
Speaker 1: and CEO at the Consumer Technology Association. This is the
Speaker 1: trade group that puts on CES every year. Let's hear
Speaker 1: what he had to say about this year's show.
Speaker 2: Explain CS for someone who's never been.
Speaker 3: Well CS, try and explain is like trying to explain
Speaker 3: ice cream to someone who's never had it.
Speaker 4: It's called it's fun, it tastes great.
Speaker 3: CES is exciting, it's all about innovation. It's where the
Speaker 3: world gathers for the business of technology. We'll have up
Speaker 3: to one hundred three thousand people from around the world
Speaker 3: and they will be able to see four thousand plus
Speaker 3: different companies exhibiting on the show floor.
Speaker 4: And the show floor is huge.
Speaker 3: It's two convention centers plus some several hotels, and that
Speaker 3: will have two point five million net square feet of
Speaker 3: exhibit space, which for the average person doesn't it's about
Speaker 3: thirty plus football fields of exhibit space.
Speaker 1: Is there any way for a mere mortal to see
Speaker 1: it all?
Speaker 4: No, it's impossible.
Speaker 3: We have to have In a few years, we'll have
Speaker 3: an artificial intelligence robot that.
Speaker 2: Will do the whole thing in four days.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you've already hinted about the themes. Give me
Speaker 1: the big themes of this year's show.
Speaker 3: Well, the overall envelope is sustainability and a better world
Speaker 3: through fundamental human securities like food, clean air and clean water, healthcare,
Speaker 3: things like mobility. And this is UN the UN is
Speaker 3: represented here and that's what it's about, is making the
Speaker 3: world better for people. But the ingredient that's really big
Speaker 3: this year that really wasn't around us last year is
Speaker 3: the new type of AI AI plus and basically artificial
Speaker 3: intelligence but that learns, machine learning, others and now will
Speaker 3: be the best example people could understand is, you know
Speaker 3: there's cars that actually are self driving. There's navigational systems
Speaker 3: we'll familiar with. But how do you get to that, Well,
Speaker 3: you learn the car navigational systems.
Speaker 5: They don't learn.
Speaker 3: Now, you always go a certain way the car wants
Speaker 3: to take you the way it wants to take you to.
Speaker 4: Cars will learn.
Speaker 3: Cars will learn about and make you better for healthcare,
Speaker 3: they'll learn what actually works for you individually or people
Speaker 3: with your demographics, blood type, DNA, everything, they'll learn educationally
Speaker 3: how kids learn what's best. They'll learn from a safety perspective.
Speaker 3: You know, the seat in your car may figure out
Speaker 3: that you're about to get sick, and here's the steps
Speaker 3: you should take.
Speaker 1: And of course they'll.
Speaker 3: They'll learn in many others fields of human endeavor that
Speaker 3: will make us better.
Speaker 1: Tell me about the importance of an in person gathering
Speaker 1: like this.
Speaker 3: Well, I feel we're back in a big way because
Speaker 3: it's been a long haul since COVID. Obviously, we had
Speaker 3: one pure digital event and then we had other events
Speaker 3: that we're not as encouraging as they should because there
Speaker 3: was a lot of issues surrounding them. This one is
Speaker 3: back bigger. It's up double digits by every measure over
Speaker 3: our last year's edition, and we are basically have established
Speaker 3: at the CEO level of companies now a view that
Speaker 3: getting together in person is super important. Look, I'm the
Speaker 3: paid cheerleader for the technology world, and I believe strongly
Speaker 3: that you have to have face to face not only
Speaker 3: to build a deeper relationship, but also to discover to
Speaker 3: have serendipity and things about what you don't know see people.
Speaker 3: And also what we need in the technology world to
Speaker 3: succeed is you need to have cross industry relationships developed
Speaker 3: because there's so much intellectual property, there's so many pounds
Speaker 3: you have to go across industries to develop something even better,
Speaker 3: that's comprehensive and will serve your customers better. You add
Speaker 3: that to the fact that CEOs want to see their
Speaker 3: own employees working together occasionally because so many people are
Speaker 3: working from home. The trade shows and CES isn't the
Speaker 3: only one, are really very strong right now because of
Speaker 3: that pent up desire for face to face contact and
Speaker 3: discovery and moving forward in a very competitive business environment.
Speaker 3: I am super charged because this kicks off a tremendous
Speaker 3: amount of excitement, optimism, and hope for the future. At
Speaker 3: a time when our country and our world are divided,
Speaker 3: it's nice to see people from around the world come.
Speaker 3: We'll have over forty thousand people from outside of the
Speaker 3: United States coming here in a very positive way, wanting
Speaker 3: to do business with each other, and we don't feel
Speaker 3: that tension that we seem to feel in the rest
Speaker 3: of the world or frank leaving in our own country.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: That was Gary Shapiro, president of the Consumer Technology Association.
Speaker 1: They are the trade organization that puts on CES I've
Speaker 1: worked with Gary closely. I did actually host a digital
Speaker 1: CES during the pandemic. I told you about this last week,
Speaker 1: so I knew. I got to know Gary pretty well
Speaker 1: throughout that, and I like his sense of optimism and
Speaker 1: he really is on kind of the bleeding edge when
Speaker 1: it comes to technology because he's working with all these
Speaker 1: companies from around the world to get them here, which
Speaker 1: is no easy feet.
Speaker 2: I mean, there are literally exhibitors.
Speaker 1: From every corner of this planet that all come here
Speaker 1: and this is their big moment. You've got tons of
Speaker 1: media here and tons of people like me with a
Speaker 1: camera and a microphone, and they want to get that
Speaker 1: media attention because if you're a small startup, your video
Speaker 1: going viral can really change things. So thanks to Gary
Speaker 1: for chatting with me, and I'll have more of sort
Speaker 1: of my CS coverage throughout the show, so I will
Speaker 1: have plenty, plenty more of the coolest stuff I saw.
Speaker 1: But I have to mention this leave it to Apple
Speaker 1: to steal the thunder from CEES. I thought this was
Speaker 1: such an interesting move by Apple. First day of CS,
Speaker 1: they put out a press release and what does it say,
Speaker 1: Here's when Apple Vision pro is coming to the market,
Speaker 1: and that is news that a lot of people have
Speaker 1: been waiting for. They want to know the date when
Speaker 1: this Apple Vision Pro headset is going to launch, and
Speaker 1: the date is February second. Now, if you're not familiar
Speaker 1: with what Apple Vision Pro is, this is what's Apple
Speaker 1: calling a spatial computer. I really call it a VR
Speaker 1: virtual reality or augmented reality headset. It does both, but
Speaker 1: it's a new way of experiencing things.
Speaker 2: You can work in it.
Speaker 1: You can put a computer screen in there, you can
Speaker 1: watch your movies in there, experience entertainment, you can look
Speaker 1: at your photos in this thing. They're going to have
Speaker 1: a bunch of apps available at launch. Disney is on board.
Speaker 1: You'll be able to do a ton of this pretty much,
Speaker 1: all kinds of new things. What's unique is that it's
Speaker 1: really high quality. You control it by your eyes. You
Speaker 1: can actually look on the screen to the thing you
Speaker 1: want to select and it will notice that, and you
Speaker 1: can select it using your hand. You can kind of
Speaker 1: tap your fingers together. There's also voice navigation. Hope it's
Speaker 1: a little bit better than Siri.
Speaker 2: You have gaming.
Speaker 1: It's an infinite canvas, so you can put screens in
Speaker 1: your entire vision area. And it's just it's a wild experience.
Speaker 1: I did it once, hope to be doing it again
Speaker 1: very soon before this thing launches, hopefully. But it's really transformative.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. It is thirty five hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: so that is going to limit the amount of people
Speaker 1: that are going to purchase this in a big way,
Speaker 1: at least at the start pre orders open on January nineteenth.
Speaker 1: It is going to be available February second and Apple stores.
Speaker 1: If you have prescription lenses, that's going to be an
Speaker 1: extra one hundred and fifty dollars. If you have readers,
Speaker 1: that's an extra ninety nine dollars for the lenses that
Speaker 1: you need to see this thing. But it's kind of
Speaker 1: like having a four K lens on each eye. And
Speaker 1: it's incredible, there's no doubt about it. Apple has done
Speaker 1: their homework and they're doing this better than any company
Speaker 1: I've seen that is doing any sort of VR or
Speaker 1: AR headset. But here's the thing. This is going to
Speaker 1: start a new trend in the industry where there's going
Speaker 1: to be a whole lot of these types of machinery
Speaker 1: out there there. And we saw it a see. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of these glasses that are like these,
Speaker 1: you know, spatial and not spatial computing. Well yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess they were actually, but just these glasses you put
Speaker 1: on that put a computer in front of your face,
Speaker 1: and and entertainment Netflix.
Speaker 2: I put a couple of them on.
Speaker 1: None of them are as good as Apple, but they're
Speaker 1: all promising, and I think that this entire genre of
Speaker 1: putting glasses on and seeing stuff is going to be
Speaker 1: quite incredible. All right, let's do a question emailed in
Speaker 1: from Steven Hey Rich love your show. I use Apple
Speaker 1: Wallet all the time, but I have store cards that
Speaker 1: I can't store there.
Speaker 2: What would be the best digital wallet app for that?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Okay, there is an app called stow Card st o
Speaker 1: c A r D st o c A r D
Speaker 1: And if you haven't Android, Google Wallet will do a
Speaker 1: lot of this. But this this one is kind of
Speaker 1: cool because it does have a lot of retailers on
Speaker 1: board with this. So I'm looking at the mainscreen, It's
Speaker 1: got Duncan's got Gold, Jim cvs, Kroger, Starbucks, Walgreens, Triple A, big,
Speaker 1: lots AARP. Now, if you look in a lot of
Speaker 1: the apps that you download, from these companies, a lot
Speaker 1: of them have an option to send to Google Wallet
Speaker 1: or send to Apple.
Speaker 2: Wallet, so I would try that first.
Speaker 1: Like, for instance, Walgreens, they have that and the benefit
Speaker 1: there is that you get the tap to use it. So,
Speaker 1: for instance, at Walgreens, if you have your Walgreens cards
Speaker 1: stored in Apple Wallet or Google Pay, you'll be able
Speaker 1: to tap at the register to share your number with
Speaker 1: the register. But if you want something that holds all
Speaker 1: these cards, mostly just for organization too. Again, the app
Speaker 1: is called stoke Card sto Card, and it's a great
Speaker 1: way to get organized. I've got a lot of my
Speaker 1: stuff in Apple Wallet. It's funny because I use my
Speaker 1: Apple Wallet the other day Apple Pay and the person
Speaker 1: I was sharing my contact information with an app called
Speaker 1: Popple popl it's like a digital business card, and the
Speaker 1: person's like, oh, you have a lot of cards in
Speaker 1: your wallet. I was like, well, yeah, I carry as
Speaker 1: many as I can. I've got like, you know, my Starbucks,
Speaker 1: I've got my Walgreens, I've got my seven to eleven,
Speaker 1: I've got CVS. I mean, any of these cards that
Speaker 1: I can carry in a digital way to me is
Speaker 1: a much better way of doing that, all right. If
Speaker 1: you want a link to anything I mentioned here on
Speaker 1: the show, you can go to keep notes in real time.
Speaker 1: So if you heard me mention something like an app
Speaker 1: like I just did, you can go to what's the wiki?
Speaker 1: It's rich on tech dot tv slash wiki wiki. If
Speaker 1: you want more information on a guest, it is all
Speaker 1: updated in real time. If you want to see information
Speaker 1: about the show after it airs, you can go to
Speaker 1: rich on tech dot tv. There's usually an episode page
Speaker 1: there with all the links there as well. But I
Speaker 1: try to put these links in as much as possible
Speaker 1: because I know you're listening, and I know that you
Speaker 1: want to get these links, and you're not listening with
Speaker 1: a pencil and paper, So it's a much easier way
Speaker 1: of right or getting the information that I talk about.
Speaker 2: All right, Coming up, we still got lots of great guests.
Speaker 1: We've got Michael Fisher, who created a physical keyboard for
Speaker 1: the iPhone.
Speaker 2: We're going to hear an interview with him.
Speaker 1: Plus I'm going to tell you about some more of
Speaker 1: the stuff I saw at CS, including a self rocking
Speaker 1: baby stroller. You don't even have to rock your baby anymore.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to Rich
Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking
Speaker 1: technology live from Las Vegas today, recovering from CS twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. Let's go to line too. Melody is in Carlsbad, Melody.
Speaker 1: You're on with Rich.
Speaker 2: Melody. Are you there?
Speaker 6: I am here, Oh there you are.
Speaker 2: Hello, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Several years ago I retired, and during my tenure as
Speaker 6: a worker for forty some years, I had.
Speaker 1: To use I used.
Speaker 6: The Microsoft Word program to do a lot of documents
Speaker 6: and newsletters, et cetera. And those were on my home computer.
Speaker 6: And so I've continued with that software. But at some point,
Speaker 6: maybe about three or four years ago, they changed it
Speaker 6: to a subscription program where I had to pay sixty
Speaker 6: some bucks a year to continue to use the software.
Speaker 6: But sure, I no longer have to do documents and newsletters,
Speaker 6: and I really don't.
Speaker 8: Use it that much.
Speaker 1: But yes, don't want to pay that money, right, But
Speaker 1: will I be able.
Speaker 6: To reference the documents I have previously made with Words
Speaker 6: if I do not have the subscription?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: This used to be very complicated in the past. It
Speaker 1: is not anymore thanks to so many free tools out there,
Speaker 1: so you'll be just fine. You can continue to make
Speaker 1: these documents in the word format as much as you want,
Speaker 1: and there will be many ways to access them later.
Speaker 1: The easiest way do you have a Gmail or a
Speaker 1: Google account? Yeah, okay, easiest way Google Docs. So take these.
Speaker 1: You can actually do this right now if you want.
Speaker 1: You can go to Google Drive, or you can go
Speaker 1: to Google Docs and you can drag and drop one
Speaker 1: of these files into the screen and it will put
Speaker 1: it into Google Drive, Google Docs, and then you can
Speaker 1: open it and Google will make it so that you
Speaker 1: can edit that file, you can read that file, whatever
Speaker 1: you need to do. It will convert it for you
Speaker 1: on the fly, and so you'll be able to edit,
Speaker 1: you'll be able to read it, you'll be able to
Speaker 1: access it. There will be no there will be no
Speaker 1: issues here whatsoever. So Melody, you can continue to do this,
Speaker 1: but I would recommend that there are many other ways
Speaker 1: as well. If you have a Mac computer, you can
Speaker 1: use pay There are some free office suites online. There
Speaker 1: are some popular ones like open Office and things like that.
Speaker 1: So I mean there's a lot out there, but I
Speaker 1: think that Google Docs is the easiest. That's the one
Speaker 1: that I use, and I think that you're gonna find
Speaker 1: it very very simple to just open these documents, edit
Speaker 1: them right in your web browser and have no problem
Speaker 1: with that whatsoever. Thanks for the call, Melody, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Let's see here. Oh so many things that I talked
Speaker 1: about this week.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to share one quick tip. Okay.
Speaker 1: I was in a briefing and someone did something on
Speaker 1: their smartphone and I'd never seen that before. And what
Speaker 1: they did was this is on Android, by the way,
Speaker 1: And what they did was they were in their messaging
Speaker 1: app okay, and you can try this if you have
Speaker 1: an Android phone, go ahead, follow along with me. So
Speaker 1: go to your messages app, okay, open up a text
Speaker 1: messaging thread, and just pinch on the page to zoom
Speaker 1: like you would pinch on a picture to zoom out
Speaker 1: or zoo in, and the text gets bigger or smaller.
Speaker 1: I had never seen that before. I've been covering this
Speaker 1: stuff for so long, I have never seen that tip before.
Speaker 1: So I posted to my Instagram at rich on Tech,
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of people said, hey, where
Speaker 1: if you've been demro, come on, I know all about that,
Speaker 1: but you know the reality is, if I had not
Speaker 1: seen that before. I am sure there are other people
Speaker 1: that have not seen that before. Now, if you try
Speaker 1: this on an iPhone, it does not work. So Apple,
Speaker 1: I know you're listening. Please give us this feature on
Speaker 1: the iPhone as well, because you know people want Sometimes
Speaker 1: you want to zoom in, sometimes you want to zoom out,
Speaker 1: depending on you know, whether we'rearing glasses or not, or
Speaker 1: you want to just see something more clearly. But this
Speaker 1: is a very easy way on Android, Samsung Pixel, any
Speaker 1: Android phone. It's kind of built into the messaging app.
Speaker 2: Just go ahead.
Speaker 1: If you ever need to zoom in on something, just
Speaker 1: select the message and pinch to zoom in or out.
Speaker 1: You can see that little quick tip on my instagram
Speaker 1: at rich On Tech. Let's see here this this is
Speaker 1: something that I saw at see Yes, this was probably
Speaker 1: one of the first gadgets. I'm probably gonna butcher the
Speaker 1: name here, but it's called the glux Kin and g
Speaker 1: l ux ki nd I said glux kind. That is
Speaker 1: not how you say it. It's gluck skin. This is
Speaker 1: a smart self rocking stroller. Now, this company made waves,
Speaker 1: I think about last year because they had a viral
Speaker 1: video that showed the stroller being pushed by itself, and
Speaker 1: I did clarify with the company. This thing is an
Speaker 1: AI stroller that has three main things it can do.
Speaker 1: Number one, this is the new version by the way.
Speaker 1: Number one, it has an electric motor to help you
Speaker 1: push it, so it's like an e bike. You push
Speaker 1: this stroller. The harder you push it, the more it
Speaker 1: helps you. So if you're trying to go up a hill,
Speaker 1: you're trying to go on a long stroller walk with
Speaker 1: your kid, this is basically an e bike of strollers.
Speaker 1: That's wild. Number two, it has a built in speaker
Speaker 1: that plays white noise to soothe your baby, so you
Speaker 1: know that's kind of cool. Number Three, it rocks itself
Speaker 1: so it can put your baby to sleep. There's also
Speaker 1: a front camera on this thing, so if someone tries
Speaker 1: to push your baby stroller that is not you, it
Speaker 1: won't move. So strangers can't push this baby stroller, unless,
Speaker 1: of course, you authorize them if you have a babysitter
Speaker 1: or something like that. This is about thirty three hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: It is again it's called the Glux Can. I think
Speaker 1: there's two names. There's the Ella and then there's another one.
Speaker 1: Now this one, this is I guess, a cheaper version
Speaker 1: of the one that we saw last year in the
Speaker 1: viral video that actually will push your baby by itself.
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. It does not push the stroller
Speaker 1: when the baby is insides. There must be some sort
Speaker 1: of weight sensor in the stroller, because I did clarify
Speaker 1: with the person who runs the company and he said, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we are not pushing the baby by itself. And I
Speaker 1: think that's why that video went viral because people just
Speaker 1: assume that this stroller was pushing the baby by itself.
Speaker 1: It was not doing that. So again, Gluxkin smart self
Speaker 1: rocking stroller. I think a lot of people it was
Speaker 1: getting a lot of attention at the show because people
Speaker 1: were just sitting there like, wait, what is happening here
Speaker 1: right now? What is this stroller doing all by itself?
Speaker 1: All right? If you want links to anything I mentioned again,
Speaker 1: the website is rich on Tech dot TV. If you
Speaker 1: want to see the stuff I posted on Instagram from
Speaker 1: CS you can go to my instagram at rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: There I've posted everything. Let me see what's gone the
Speaker 1: most sort of viral here so far?
Speaker 2: It looks like I'll just tell you the stuff that
Speaker 2: I posted.
Speaker 1: So I posted a the LG clear transparent TVs, a
Speaker 1: foldable TV. Oh, the guy kicking the robot. They've got
Speaker 1: this robot that you can kick and it will still
Speaker 1: stay up standing. And that was really scary because we
Speaker 1: know these robots are gonna kick back one day.
Speaker 2: Let's see, we've got an ice cream robot machine.
Speaker 1: Some fun little plugs that look like an old school
Speaker 1: Apple computer that have a screen on them. Oh.
Speaker 2: The one that did really well too is this lock.
Speaker 1: It's a lock that has a fingerprint on it, so
Speaker 1: it's like a TSA lock for your luggage, but you
Speaker 1: can just use your fingerprint to unlock. Its company called
Speaker 1: Benji Lock. All right, Triple eight rich one on one
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Speaker 1: More rich on Tech coming your way live from Las
Speaker 1: Vegas right after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology at
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Speaker 1: dot TV. Hit the contact link to send me an email.
Speaker 1: I will hopefully get to it on today's show.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 1: We are broadcasting live from Las Vegas. Recovering from CS
Speaker 1: got an email from Michelle Listener Michelle, and Michelle says
Speaker 1: about CES, please talk about the expense of even going
Speaker 1: to CS and who can go? It is a major
Speaker 1: production and expensive hotel room, resort fees, shoes. Who can attend? Yes,
Speaker 1: it is very very expensive and in fact, I used
Speaker 1: to roll with a crew of about five people at CS.
Speaker 1: I think we're now down to two. Well, I know
Speaker 1: we're now down to two, and we do a lot.
Speaker 1: We do a lot. We are working very long days.
Speaker 1: It is very expensive, it really really is. And you know,
Speaker 1: I try to keep things under control cost wise. I
Speaker 1: try to take you know, public transit, the monorail, all
Speaker 1: that good stuff, but it can add up quick. And
Speaker 1: who can go? So it is open to industry professionals,
Speaker 1: so people in the tech world, people that are journalists
Speaker 1: and also exhibitors, so you do have to be one
Speaker 1: of those. Is not open to the public, although every
Speaker 1: year I tell CS, I said, hey, open one day
Speaker 1: to the public.
Speaker 2: You will make a ton of money.
Speaker 5: One of the.
Speaker 1: Gadgets that was unveiled here is clicks. It brings a
Speaker 1: real keyboard to the iPhone and this connects to your iPhone.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a case, although they don't call
Speaker 1: it that, and it's one hundred and thirty nine dollars
Speaker 1: and it brings a physical keyboard to the iPhone. This
Speaker 1: was invented by Mobile Tech reviewers including Mister Mobile, Michael Fisher,
Speaker 1: and Crackberry. Kevin and I got to talk to Michael
Speaker 1: Fisher mister Mobile about this new Clicks keyboard. Let's hear
Speaker 1: why he came up with this.
Speaker 9: Clicks is a creator keyboard made for the iPhone to
Speaker 9: give you a physical, quirity keyboard that gives you shortcuts
Speaker 9: and more sensation when typing and gives you your screen
Speaker 9: space back. Every phone today kind of looks the same,
Speaker 9: and every phone today is quite capable. We had to
Speaker 9: throw buttons away about seventeen years to do that as
Speaker 9: a society, but in doing so, we sacrificed a lot
Speaker 9: of the utility and frankly a lot of the fun
Speaker 9: that buttons still provide. So we thought why not bring
Speaker 9: them back. The deal with adding a keyboard to a
Speaker 9: phone is that you have to attach it somehow, right,
Speaker 9: so you can make a standalone keyboard that just plugs in,
Speaker 9: but that introduces some challenges, there's durability issues, and most
Speaker 9: people do use a case on their phone, So we
Speaker 9: don't call this a case because that has different criteria.
Speaker 10: There's different things you have to you know, guarantee, but.
Speaker 9: It is it will protect it scratches, certainly, it'll do
Speaker 9: most things that people expect a case to do. While
Speaker 9: adding the thing we want to do for generation one,
Speaker 9: which is a physical keyboard.
Speaker 1: So do you expect people to keep this on their
Speaker 1: phone all the time or put it on when they
Speaker 1: need it.
Speaker 9: I tend to keep it on all the time. But
Speaker 9: what is nice is that you can remove it or
Speaker 9: add it with very little hassle. So similar to an iPad.
Speaker 9: You know, you see an iPad people use a magic keyboard.
Speaker 9: Sometimes people pop it off when they don't need it.
Speaker 9: It's just as easy to do that with clicks. So
Speaker 9: you can kind of have your own experience.
Speaker 1: What's the benefit of a physical keyboard on the iPhone?
Speaker 9: What's nice is when you add a physical keyboard to
Speaker 9: the iPhone, you get all kinds of surprises, like keyboard
Speaker 9: shortcuts that work on your MacBook or on your mac
Speaker 9: or on your iPad also work here. Command space lets
Speaker 9: you search for something if you're in Safari and you
Speaker 9: want to open up a new tab command and does that.
Speaker 9: So these kind of muscle memory things that have been
Speaker 9: built in over twenty years of using computers and iPads
Speaker 9: also work here. And when you're doing that, say you're
Speaker 9: in a long message thread, you start typing, and you
Speaker 9: still have your entire screen. If you don't have clicks
Speaker 9: attached to your virtual keyboard, pops up and it uses
Speaker 9: up half of your available screen real estate. So having
Speaker 9: the physical keyboard allows you to keep all of that.
Speaker 9: And also, look, I'm kind of an old timer. I
Speaker 9: came up on quarity keyboards that were physical in nature.
Speaker 9: It's more fun to type on, it's a more tactle,
Speaker 9: it's a more personal it's more human experience for me
Speaker 9: than typing on glass.
Speaker 10: And if you need to type on glass, you can
Speaker 10: still do that.
Speaker 1: Now you've done a long time without a physical keyboard
Speaker 1: on a phone. Yeah, So do you think people are
Speaker 1: ready to bring this back into their lives?
Speaker 5: Is everyone ready to do it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 10: And it's you know, it's not a product for everybody
Speaker 10: for sure, But.
Speaker 9: I think people who have missed a physical keyboard will
Speaker 9: find this not only nostalgic but also useful in a
Speaker 9: way that you know the old physical keyboards used to be,
Speaker 9: and people who have never used them before will, I think,
Speaker 9: also find a great deal of pleasure, not just in
Speaker 9: the utility, in the screen space, the things that are pragmatic,
Speaker 9: but also the fun. Fun should be a consideration when
Speaker 9: you're buying a phone, shouldn't that.
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, you review products for a living. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you sort of reviewed your own product for your launch
Speaker 1: sort of, Yes, what is it like to be on
Speaker 1: the other side of putting out a product versus reviewing
Speaker 1: someone else's product?
Speaker 10: It was astute segue because it is fun.
Speaker 9: It is I've been doing reviews for twelve years and
Speaker 9: I've been sitting there saying like, okay, well thank you,
Speaker 9: oh impress me, what did you make?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 10: Okay, well this is kind of okay, but all right.
Speaker 9: Being on the other side gives you a real clear
Speaker 9: window into how difficult it is to build something, how
Speaker 9: much compromise might be required, but also how fun it
Speaker 9: is to collaborate with people who are better at different
Speaker 9: things than you. And it's very satisfying to ship something
Speaker 9: you can actually touch instead of a creative product which
Speaker 9: is you know more ethereal. This is our first product.
Speaker 9: We built a company, we didn't just build a product.
Speaker 9: So this is the beginning of something that I'm very
Speaker 9: satisfied with. But there's a lot more to come that
Speaker 9: we're not talking about YETNA, I'm even more excited for that.
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks mister Mobile. That is mister Mobile. Michael Fisher,
Speaker 1: creator of the Clicks keyboard accessory for iPhone. One hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty nine dollars ships on February first. I did
Speaker 1: have a chance to try typing on it, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like the old school BlackBerry. It's tactile, you
Speaker 1: feel it. It does free up the screen real estate.
Speaker 1: I never really thought about that on the iPhone, how
Speaker 1: much the keyboard takes up on the screen. But the
Speaker 1: question is are you ready to go back to that.
Speaker 1: I feel like so many people have gotten used to
Speaker 1: not having a keyboard for the iPhone, But at the
Speaker 1: same time, a lot of people are going mobile first,
Speaker 1: and so if you can just throw this in your bag,
Speaker 1: go on a trip, and it helps you type faster
Speaker 1: when you're back in your hotel room or whatever. I
Speaker 1: can see the allure one hundred and thirty nine dollars.
Speaker 1: Ships start February first. The website is clicks dot tech.
Speaker 1: Clicks dot tech if you want to check out the
Speaker 1: new creator keyboard for the iPhone. All right, a couple
Speaker 1: other things I saw at CES I thought were quite interesting.
Speaker 1: Brunswick this is a boat company. They let me dock
Speaker 1: a boat. Well it actually a computer did it, because
Speaker 1: now they have self docking boat technology. And when I
Speaker 1: heard this, I said, no way. I was literally just
Speaker 1: talking about this. I did a story with that electric
Speaker 1: boat company ARC a couple of weeks ago, and I said,
Speaker 1: now I want a boat because this thing looks so cool,
Speaker 1: this electric boat. But if you can figure out how
Speaker 1: to dock it automatically, then I'm in. Because I don't
Speaker 1: know how to dock a boat. And yeah, I could
Speaker 1: probably learn, but I feel like that is a sense
Speaker 1: a source of apprehension for many people that want to
Speaker 1: get a boat. They're just worried about docking it. It's
Speaker 1: not like parking a car, where it's pretty straightforward. You know,
Speaker 1: the boat is floating, it's moving, it can hit into
Speaker 1: the dock. And so this technology is AI and sensors
Speaker 1: and so the way I tried it out was with
Speaker 1: a interactive simulator which was very very real by the way,
Speaker 1: got in this boat and you basically get to a dock.
Speaker 1: The system scans the dock and you choose a slip
Speaker 1: that you want to go into and says, hey, do you.
Speaker 2: Want to back in or do you want to go
Speaker 2: in forward?
Speaker 1: You choose that, and then the boat takes over and
Speaker 1: it literally controls the boat and docks it for you
Speaker 1: with very very precision steering. And it worked. Now, of
Speaker 1: course this was a simulator. I'm not out actually on
Speaker 1: the water trying this out. But you know, this is
Speaker 1: what's going to happen with boats. They are going to
Speaker 1: soon dock themselves in a very smart way. Again, this
Speaker 1: is from a company called Brunswick, and autonomous boat technology
Speaker 1: is coming soon to a boat near you. And I
Speaker 1: got to say I was very impressed with their simulation
Speaker 1: because I thought it was going to be kind of hokey,
Speaker 1: and the whole room kind of lit up and it
Speaker 1: felt like I was on a boat, and actually the
Speaker 1: entire thing moved so like the whole like boat that
Speaker 1: I was standing in. I didn't realize that it was
Speaker 1: like moving, so it really did move. It was it
Speaker 1: was pretty wild. This was also interesting, but this was
Speaker 1: more just eye candy. At ces A folding TV c
Speaker 1: Seed this is an Austrian company showed off a one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty seven inch folding TV. So they say
Speaker 1: it's the world's first unfolding one hundred and thirty seven
Speaker 1: inch four K TV. It folds and unfolds in about
Speaker 1: ninety seconds, and it looked like it was like four
Speaker 1: TV screens, so it sort of folds up accordion style. Now,
Speaker 1: when I went to the booth, I said, hey, can
Speaker 1: you fold and unfold this thing for me?
Speaker 2: And the guy gave me a hard time.
Speaker 1: I said, dude, if you are showing off a foldable
Speaker 1: TV and you know someone comes up to you that
Speaker 1: wants to get video of this for TV and you
Speaker 1: know social media, you got to show the TV folding.
Speaker 1: They said, oh, we're only doing it once an hour.
Speaker 1: I said no, no, no, you gotta do this. Come on,
Speaker 1: and so he said, all right, fine, we'll do it.
Speaker 1: And so he folded it up and it's it's really cool.
Speaker 1: And I said, well, why does anyone need this? And
Speaker 1: he said, well, you know number one, if you have
Speaker 1: like a penthouse. Yeah, we're talking very very rich situation here.
Speaker 1: If you have a penthouse and you have a view
Speaker 1: that you don't want interrupted by a TV, you put
Speaker 1: this TV in front of it. It folds up and
Speaker 1: the TV's gone. I said, all right, that's fine. He goes,
Speaker 1: And honestly, it's the spectacle of the thing. So I
Speaker 1: guess if you have a penthouse and a foldable TV,
Speaker 1: you know you're living life in a large way and
Speaker 1: you're not worried about the Oh about two hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars for this thing, So not for me, but I
Speaker 1: thought it was really really cool. And I just love
Speaker 1: that these TV manufacturers just keep pushing the envelope with
Speaker 1: the form factor of the TV. So again, this company
Speaker 1: is C Seed, the letter C and the name Seed.
Speaker 1: It is a company out of Austria. And they told me,
Speaker 1: they said, they're actually going to have a showroom in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. You'll be able to actually see this thing.
Speaker 1: And why not, right, why not have a foldable TV
Speaker 1: for a couple hundred thousand dollars?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 1: Coming up on the show, we still got many more guests.
Speaker 1: We got Samir Samant of Google. He's gonna talk about
Speaker 1: what's new when it comes to Android. We've got the
Speaker 1: creator and co founder of Telly. He's gonna talk about
Speaker 1: as free TV that you can get. And we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk bitcoin. What is going on with bitcoin? Big big
Speaker 1: moves this week eighty eight Rich one on one eight
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Speaker 2: This is Rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, live from Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: I think I'm the only person that's not hungover this
Speaker 1: morning in Las Vegas. Believe me, you can tell people
Speaker 1: are like, you know, they're Dragon Vegas.
Speaker 5: At night.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a party.
Speaker 1: Everyone's happy, everyone's crazy, everyone's wild.
Speaker 2: In the morning. Oh, it is a totally different story here.
Speaker 2: The sun, oh, the.
Speaker 1: Sun, the you know, the the stragglers, people waking up late. Ugh,
Speaker 1: I mean, believe me, it's you know, I have my
Speaker 1: fair share of fun here, but uh, you know, not
Speaker 1: on a radio day. All right. Steve is in Glendale. Steve,
Speaker 1: you are on with Rich Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: Hello, Rich, Hello Steve.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 12: So I got a Facebook business page. I'm a professional
Speaker 12: handy man in Glendale, California, and I made a post
Speaker 12: and I've gotten this message before I got a message.
Speaker 12: I actually got four separate messages. Your Facebook page is
Speaker 12: expect to be permanently removed due to post the post
Speaker 12: violating our trademark rice blah blah blah. You know it's
Speaker 12: going to be removed, and and then you know it's
Speaker 12: But it's from It's at the top, it's headings from
Speaker 12: Katie Estes and it shows this weird logo support and
Speaker 12: I think it's probably fishing. It's just trying to scare me,
Speaker 12: and I'm not and I'm I've learned not to click
Speaker 12: on strange links.
Speaker 2: And how can I help?
Speaker 12: It's from it's from Facebook dot t r.
Speaker 1: O okay, and it sounds like a website, So how
Speaker 1: can I help? Did you get hacked?
Speaker 12: Well, I mean I haven't. I'm just I'm just should
Speaker 12: I pay tention to that?
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, good question.
Speaker 12: Just ignore them as spam yep, yep.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent ignores spam.
Speaker 1: These are these are very I'm telling you, Steve, there
Speaker 1: are so many scams happening with social media. It is
Speaker 1: it's almost become untenable to deal with all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and especially if you have a business account, any sort
Speaker 1: of Facebook page. So a couple of things. Number one,
Speaker 1: these are notifications that they're sending you. This says, hey,
Speaker 1: you're you're violating our terms and conditions, and they seem
Speaker 1: scary because you're running a business. You might be getting
Speaker 1: some clients from this Facebook page, right, and so you
Speaker 1: you don't want your page to go away. And so
Speaker 1: what they want you to do is see this notification,
Speaker 1: click that notification without thinking, and then either log in
Speaker 1: or somehow do something that will either take over your account,
Speaker 1: hijack your account, or you know, otherwise steal your personal information.
Speaker 1: So you can safely ignore these. I can guarantee you
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of the time ninety nine point nine
Speaker 1: if there's something truly amiss with your Facebook account, Facebook
Speaker 1: will get in touch with you through a legitimate means,
Speaker 1: which is probably through some sort of pop up notification
Speaker 1: in the app or an email. So believe me, I
Speaker 1: do a lot of things on my Facebook page, Facebook
Speaker 1: dot com, slash rich on tech. I see these things
Speaker 1: all the time. There's a lot of scam artists also
Speaker 1: that post on your page. So when you comment something,
Speaker 1: they may comment and say, hey, we can help with that,
Speaker 1: And those are scam artists as well, those I would block,
Speaker 1: but really these are mostly bots.
Speaker 2: But it's a good lesson to learn.
Speaker 1: And the thing that I would do is make sure
Speaker 1: if you have a Facebook account, two things I would do.
Speaker 1: Number one, set up two factor authentication. This means that
Speaker 1: you need a separate code to log in once you
Speaker 1: log in with your password. So let's say you fell
Speaker 1: for one of those notifications, you logged in with your password,
Speaker 1: they got it, they immediately try to hijack your account.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't be able to because there would be a
Speaker 1: secondary code that is texted to your phone and that
Speaker 1: would make it so that they wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: get in.
Speaker 2: The other thing to.
Speaker 1: Do if you have a Facebook business account is to
Speaker 1: get an admin on that account, someone you trust that
Speaker 1: is not you, And that way, if there's ever a
Speaker 1: problem with your Facebook account, because these are usually linked
Speaker 1: to a personal Facebook account, that way that other person
Speaker 1: will be able to help you get back in. And
Speaker 1: if you have a personal Facebook account, there's other others
Speaker 1: some excuse me, there's some other things you can do,
Speaker 1: which is called trusted contacts. You can set those up
Speaker 1: to help you regain access to your Facebook account.
Speaker 2: And if you have a problem with.
Speaker 1: Your Facebook and it is hacked. The best place to
Speaker 1: go is Facebook dot com slash hacked. Facebook dot com
Speaker 1: slash hacked. All right, let's go to Jamie and Tampa.
Speaker 1: Jamie in Tampa, Florida.
Speaker 13: Go ahead, Hey, Rich, how you doing today, man.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm looking to help you brandel affiliate. I'm looking
Speaker 13: at a brand new affiliate.
Speaker 12: Twelve to fifty w h n z oh I love it.
Speaker 13: Yeah, man, I knew yeah, man, walk walk Welcome to
Speaker 13: the eight, one and three.
Speaker 5: Baby, thank you.
Speaker 2: It feels good. I feel the sun.
Speaker 12: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 13: So we have cable, but I'm we're considering ditching it
Speaker 13: because you not expect your conspectum is getting more and
Speaker 13: more costas used by the minute. And so I'm looking
Speaker 13: to get a TV in tennant. I live in Tampa, Florida.
Speaker 13: But I don't exactly know what TV intendant could get
Speaker 13: or even why I should get one, because anyone's all
Speaker 13: well to go on Netflix or who we were this
Speaker 13: or that, but even that's getting expensive. Now, Oh, why
Speaker 13: should I get an antenna? And what kind of antenna
Speaker 13: do I need?
Speaker 1: Doing it outdoor or great question? Well, it largely depends
Speaker 1: on where you live. Yeah, it largely depends on where
Speaker 1: you live and what kind of signal you can get.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you the website that I like for
Speaker 1: antenna's Antennasdirect dot Com. I just tested their new Mohu Versa,
Speaker 1: Moho Versa. I used to love their Mohu Leaf. The
Speaker 1: Versa is a bit more versatile, and they have a
Speaker 1: model for thirty mile range fifty mile range. They're very
Speaker 1: inexpensive anywhere from like you know, forty to sixty dollars
Speaker 1: depending on you know the model, and you'd be surprised
Speaker 1: how many and channels you can pick up in your
Speaker 1: home just putting this thing like near your TV. And
Speaker 1: so I would be that would be my first stop
Speaker 1: Antennasdirect dot Com. The other thing I really like is
Speaker 1: called the Tableau TA b l O. This is a
Speaker 1: device that lets you record over the air signals and
Speaker 1: I just got a demo of a Curate ces t
Speaker 1: A b l O.
Speaker 2: You get the antenna, you get the tableau.
Speaker 1: You can forget all together about streaming because you'll have
Speaker 1: all the stuff you need. You are listening to rich
Speaker 1: on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich tamiro
Speaker 1: here hanging out with you talking technology at Triple eight
Speaker 1: rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to
Speaker 1: two four one zero one. If you're one of our
Speaker 1: new listeners on a new station, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the party, Welcome to the inside track. This
Speaker 1: is a show where I talk about the tech stuff
Speaker 1: I think you should know about. So you'll find that
Speaker 1: I don't talk about all the tech stuff. I don't
Speaker 1: answer all the tech questions. It's really consumer focused. It's
Speaker 1: the everyday user. If you're not a tech person, this
Speaker 1: show is perfect for you because it helps you understand
Speaker 1: what you're up against. So much technology in this world.
Speaker 1: I'm helping you understand it. Recently I talked to Samir
Speaker 1: Summat at Google. He is the general manager and vice
Speaker 1: president of Android Ecosystem. He told me all about the
Speaker 1: new things that Google unveiled here at CES. First off,
Speaker 1: tell me about this year Android Google at CS.
Speaker 8: What's kind of the mission here?
Speaker 14: Yeah, Well, first of all, it's really good to see you,
Speaker 14: and we have a lot going on at CS or
Speaker 14: Android this year. We're here in the Android Experience Center.
Speaker 14: We made a bunch of announcements this morning. Android is
Speaker 14: all about an open ecosystem where you can buy the
Speaker 14: devices and products that work best for you and have
Speaker 14: them all work better together. So, for example, many of
Speaker 14: your viewers may be familiar with Cast, which allows you
Speaker 14: to take the song you're listening to you or the
Speaker 14: video you're watching and put it on a big screen
Speaker 14: or a smart speaker that's in your house.
Speaker 5: We made some improvements to CAST during this CES.
Speaker 14: For example, the cast is now coming to more screens
Speaker 14: like lgtvs in twenty twenty four will support CAST, including
Speaker 14: those that you see in hotel rooms, so you can
Speaker 14: cast right to the TV in your hotel room. No
Speaker 14: logging in, no forgetting to log out when you leave
Speaker 14: the hotel.
Speaker 5: Makes it super simple.
Speaker 14: And the other thing that my kids are really excited
Speaker 14: about is TikTok is coming to Cast as well, so
Speaker 14: putting those latest dance moves on your big screen TV
Speaker 14: and learning together.
Speaker 5: You can see that in your future too.
Speaker 8: I heard there's some changes about quick share.
Speaker 1: And the nearby share on Android, So tell me how those.
Speaker 8: Two are sort of emerging.
Speaker 14: Yeah, quick Share and nearby Share both try to solve
Speaker 14: the same problem, which is we have files and photos
Speaker 14: and you and I want to share them with each other,
Speaker 14: and we want to do that really simply. Samsung has
Speaker 14: had their own solution. Android has had its own solution
Speaker 14: as well. What's really cool that we just announced is
Speaker 14: that Samsung and Google are getting together. We're integrating both
Speaker 14: of those two solutions, quick Share and Nearby Share into
Speaker 14: a single solution that will work across.
Speaker 5: All Androids devices.
Speaker 14: We're keeping the name quick Share since it was really
Speaker 14: popular with consumers. Later this year, people their Android phones
Speaker 14: will get an update and you'll have that quick Share
Speaker 14: button and it'll work no matter what phone. Remember what
Speaker 14: Android phone the other user has. What is the purpose
Speaker 14: of quick Share? Quick Share makes it really simple to
Speaker 14: share photos and videos between you and your friends that
Speaker 14: are standing near body.
Speaker 8: Does it work with other devices?
Speaker 1: Like I'm always like, can I get this from my Mac?
Speaker 1: Is that in the future or is that impossible to architects,
Speaker 1: it's a really good question.
Speaker 5: One of the things we've heard from consumers.
Speaker 14: A lot is they want to be able to share
Speaker 14: easily from their phone.
Speaker 5: To their laptops and their desktops.
Speaker 14: So one thing we're adding with quick Shares. We're starting
Speaker 14: out with Windows PCs and chromebooks and so starting for example,
Speaker 14: with any Chromebook that you buy quick Share we'll work with,
Speaker 14: as well as a number of different Windows PCs, starting
Speaker 14: with PCs made by LG.
Speaker 1: AI has become so big in our lives. What is
Speaker 1: Android doing when it comes to AI.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, there's a lot that Google's been doing
Speaker 14: with AI for a number of years, and Android's been
Speaker 14: participating in a lot of that. You know, the things
Speaker 14: that we have on our phone today, a lot of
Speaker 14: them that work really well, like defending you from spam.
Speaker 14: We'll block two billion spam messages every month using AI
Speaker 14: on the phone, as well as smart replies that people
Speaker 14: are really fond of. All that has been AI powered
Speaker 14: for a long time. What's new is all the new
Speaker 14: capabilities with generative AI, and we've really seen this progress
Speaker 14: leaps and bounds in the last year or so. We
Speaker 14: have some super cool stuff and Android that takes advantage
Speaker 14: of that. Android's always been known as a platform that
Speaker 14: helps you customize and express yourself. One thing I'm really
Speaker 14: excited about is our AI generated wallpapers. So you can
Speaker 14: ask Android to generate you a wallpaper that is just
Speaker 14: for you. You can give it a prompt bicycle made of
Speaker 14: flowers in the woods sounds nuts. It can do it
Speaker 14: for you, and that wallpaper is just for you. There's
Speaker 14: none other like it in the whole world. The other
Speaker 14: feature that I really love is where AI really helps
Speaker 14: us get things done that we felt in the past
Speaker 14: was just impossible. You know what's impossible for me and
Speaker 14: my family is I have two young boys thirteen and eight,
Speaker 14: and getting a good family picture is impossible. With AI,
Speaker 14: this has helped tremendously. So there's a feature with Google
Speaker 14: Pixel called best Take, And when you take a photo,
Speaker 14: doesn't just take one photo, takes a lot of photos
Speaker 14: without even you having to worry about it, and then
Speaker 14: helps you combine all those photos together so you get
Speaker 14: the one where everyone's smiling, not the one where you've
Speaker 14: got somebody doing the bunny years and someone else frowning.
Speaker 8: You mentioned open ecosystem.
Speaker 1: Open system is a big tenet of what Android is
Speaker 1: all about. In Google, we've had this whole thing about
Speaker 1: the blue bubble versus the Green bubble. Recently sort of
Speaker 1: bubbled up to use that. But Apple's also adopting rcs
Speaker 1: next year or yeah, this year sometime. What do you
Speaker 1: make of this whole debate and do you think messaging
Speaker 1: should be simpler?
Speaker 14: Messaging definitely needs to be simpler. It really shouldn't matter
Speaker 14: what phone we're using. It for us to be able
Speaker 14: to communicate with each other, that's what phones are for.
Speaker 5: So I should need to think about does this person
Speaker 5: have an Android phone? Do they have an iPhone?
Speaker 14: When I send them a video or a photo in
Speaker 14: a text message, it should just all work.
Speaker 5: And that's really what we've been advocating for around.
Speaker 14: RCS, which is a new way of sending text messages,
Speaker 14: replaces SMS and mms, which are thirty year old technologies
Speaker 14: which never grew up to support all the things that
Speaker 14: we expect today, like high quality photos and videos and
Speaker 14: to end encryption. So we're really excited to hear that
Speaker 14: Apple will be supporting RCS. We think it'll make all
Speaker 14: of our lives a lot easier and we're excited to
Speaker 14: see them make good on that promise and roll it
Speaker 14: out later this year.
Speaker 1: What will that mean for consumers? What will the difference
Speaker 1: be Because people like well, I got already text and
Speaker 1: I yeah, So what will that mean for consumers?
Speaker 14: Well, one of the things today is when iPhones and
Speaker 14: androids text each other, you often get videos that are
Speaker 14: not high quality. You often get images which are degraded,
Speaker 14: and people complain. Ah, you know, the Green Bubble didn't
Speaker 14: do the greatest job at sending me the high quality
Speaker 14: information that I wanted. Well, it turns out that's because
Speaker 14: of SMS and MMS, which are thirty year old technologies.
Speaker 14: When RCS replaces these, what we'll be able to do
Speaker 14: together is get all the features that we expect from
Speaker 14: a text messaging application, and so text messaging will become
Speaker 14: high quality videos, high quality photos, read receipts, typing, notifications,
Speaker 14: end end encryption, and so much more.
Speaker 8: You excited about all this stuff? What keeps you going
Speaker 8: about all this?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 14: I couldn't be more excited. There's over three billion users
Speaker 14: of Android around the world. Androids mission is really about
Speaker 14: helping bring computing to more people, and it's not just
Speaker 14: about phones anymore. What you'll see here today is TV,
Speaker 14: these cars, watches, and a whole lot more that makes
Speaker 14: this ecosystem really shine.
Speaker 2: And how long after?
Speaker 1: Thanks so much?
Speaker 5: Thank you?
Speaker 1: All right, that's Samir Samat, general manager and Vice president
Speaker 1: of Android Ecosystem at Google. Lots of cool Google is stuff.
Speaker 1: They're entire setup at CS look like kind of like
Speaker 1: a retro car hop. What do you want to call that?
Speaker 4: On?
Speaker 1: My Google phone is going off? When I say Google,
Speaker 1: I thought I had to say hey Google.
Speaker 2: Oh now I'm saying hey.
Speaker 1: Google, what's going off to? But it was like kind
Speaker 1: of a retro diner gas station kind of looking place.
Speaker 1: It was really cool, very open, and again what's great
Speaker 1: about CS is that you hear about these announcements, but
Speaker 1: you get to go hands on with this stuff early.
Speaker 1: So some of the things that they mentioned come out now,
Speaker 1: some of them come out later. And so the idea
Speaker 1: is that you know, all these journalists and all these
Speaker 1: media people and just people attending in general get to
Speaker 1: go hands on with this stuff before anyone else.
Speaker 2: And that's really fun.
Speaker 1: One of the other things we saw at CES that
Speaker 1: is a real crowd attractor.
Speaker 2: Is that a word? Is that a terms?
Speaker 1: Anyone say that crowd attractor? It attracted a lot of crowds.
Speaker 1: LG world's first wireless transparent OLED TV. If you haven't
Speaker 1: checked out my instagram at rich On Tech, you gotta
Speaker 1: see this thing. They had like thirty of them all
Speaker 1: in this giant display. It is a wireless transparent four
Speaker 1: K OLED TV seventy seven inch has a transparent OLED
Speaker 1: screen and wireless audio and video, which means you can
Speaker 1: place it anywhere, but you still got to plug it in.
Speaker 1: They're still plug It can go between transparent and opaque
Speaker 1: so you can display artwork or if you want, like
Speaker 1: OLED picture quality. So it has this like it looked
Speaker 1: like almost like a screen that came up from the
Speaker 1: back to like make it so it's you know, fully
Speaker 1: black on the back. And it was cool. But here's
Speaker 1: the thing, we don't know the price on this. Transparent
Speaker 1: TVs were big at CES this year. I think businesses
Speaker 1: would probably like these, but I don't know if the
Speaker 1: average person needs it. Again, it goes back to that
Speaker 1: like Penthouse comparison, Like you know, you have a window
Speaker 1: that you don't want to mess up with a TV screen,
Speaker 1: but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Seems like a stretch to me.
Speaker 1: PJ writes in on the website at Richontech dot TV
Speaker 1: self docking boats you just talked about. They will be
Speaker 1: handy for those who already know what and how. In general,
Speaker 1: people who can't deal with docking have many other issues
Speaker 1: and do not understand how to safely operate a boat
Speaker 1: with lots of explanation marks have obsessed those have observed
Speaker 1: those things many times. Many factors come into play during
Speaker 1: all aspects of boating current, wind speed, wind direction, proximity
Speaker 1: to other traffic, and other aspects. Many people only use
Speaker 1: their boats once or twice a year. They are dangerous
Speaker 1: to be around. I frequently observed these things as I've
Speaker 1: spent large amounts of time on boats since my twenties
Speaker 1: and for several years, and have also lived a board PJ. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess that's true. I mean, if you're not a
Speaker 1: boating person, you think that this autonomous docking is gonna
Speaker 1: help you or save you, or make you able to
Speaker 1: have a boat. Yeah, you still have to learn the
Speaker 1: basics one hundred percent. I mean, it's like driving a car.
Speaker 1: You can't like, Yes, we Actually I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's totally true, because in the future, when we get
Speaker 1: to the really high levels of autonomous driving, you are
Speaker 1: not going to have to know how to operate that
Speaker 1: car because there's not gonna be controls to operate that car.
Speaker 1: So I think that this is You're right at this point.
Speaker 1: For safety reasons, of course, you should know how to
Speaker 1: operate a boat and how to dock it. But this
Speaker 1: is a nice add on when you just want that
Speaker 1: smooth docking experience where you can just kind of sit
Speaker 1: back and relax and let the boat do the work.
Speaker 2: It is a very handy.
Speaker 1: Thing and it will it will only add to the
Speaker 1: amount of people who feel comfortable getting a boat, because
Speaker 1: now you know you've got the full package.
Speaker 2: There Triple eight.
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Speaker 5: Let's go to.
Speaker 1: Uh, Ellie, Ellie is in your Belinda, Ellie, you're on
Speaker 1: with Rich?
Speaker 15: Hi?
Speaker 11: Good after you, Rich? How are you?
Speaker 2: I am doing fantastic? How about you?
Speaker 6: So far, so good?
Speaker 11: But the day is young.
Speaker 1: Yah, I like that outlook all right, what can I
Speaker 1: help you with?
Speaker 13: All right?
Speaker 6: I have a problem.
Speaker 11: I live in a two story ho and I replaced
Speaker 11: my router that was provided by the cable company Spectrum
Speaker 11: because the signal was just interrupted. I also live next
Speaker 11: to the mountains. I live in the home of President
Speaker 11: Nixon the city.
Speaker 1: So I'm President Nixon's home, Yes.
Speaker 11: The library, and yes, yes he was born here. Correct.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, okay, sweet.
Speaker 11: So I had an interruption the signal because I'm really
Speaker 11: close to the mountains and I have a two story property.
Speaker 11: So I replaced the router from the Spectrum company, the
Speaker 11: cable company, and I bought my own, and I got
Speaker 11: this one from this company called the l NK S Y.
Speaker 2: S Link says okay, yes.
Speaker 11: And it gave me two towers to put one in
Speaker 11: the you know, above and one below the levels, and
Speaker 11: I still get interruption, and so I'm wondering what I
Speaker 11: can do to change that, because is when my kids
Speaker 11: come over and they're using their WiFi and stuff like that,
Speaker 11: they don't get the signal. And I don't know what
Speaker 11: I can do to change that.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, what so Number one, the mountains don't have
Speaker 1: anything to do with your signal, so that is not
Speaker 1: causing the issue. What's causing the issue is the material
Speaker 1: of this home. So I'm guessing this is an older
Speaker 1: home and it has probably thick walls that are really
Speaker 1: tough to get this signal through. That's what I'm guessing.
Speaker 1: It also sounds like it's pretty large if it is
Speaker 1: a former president's home, So that is the problem. You've
Speaker 1: got a lot of space and you've got a lot
Speaker 1: of challenges for a Wi Fi signal.
Speaker 11: That is, it wasn't the president's home. It's said he's
Speaker 11: the city. He was born here, Oh, he was born there. Okay,
Speaker 11: but it is an older home and there is a
Speaker 11: lot of bricks involved.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. That's the issue. Okay, yes, that
Speaker 1: is the issue. So you you sort of halfway solve
Speaker 1: this issue by going with the Lynx's system. It sounds
Speaker 1: like you have a mesh system, but that is what
Speaker 1: you need here, and you it sounds like you may
Speaker 1: need do you know how many square feet this house is?
Speaker 11: Well, the lot is is big, but the house itself
Speaker 11: is thirty two hundred square.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's pretty large.
Speaker 11: So I would recommend are.
Speaker 2: You trying to get internet on the lot or just
Speaker 2: in the house.
Speaker 11: Well, I already have it in the house, but it's
Speaker 11: still an interruption. Okay, signal.
Speaker 1: Okay. So here's what I would do. You need a
Speaker 1: mesh system the system that you have already. I would
Speaker 1: go online and look up the name of it and
Speaker 1: see if it is a mesh system that you can
Speaker 1: expand with more what are called access points.
Speaker 2: Let me explain what a mesh system is.
Speaker 1: So typical internet you get from Spectrum is just a
Speaker 1: router that sits below your TV and it just stays
Speaker 1: there and that's basically it.
Speaker 2: It sends out the signal.
Speaker 1: It does not reach very far because it's just the
Speaker 1: walls and everything else kind of me with it. So
Speaker 1: what most people are upgrading now to these days is
Speaker 1: called a mesh system, and a mesh system is kind
Speaker 1: of like think about the home base under your TV
Speaker 1: sends out the signal to all these little access points
Speaker 1: around your house, and they all talk to each other
Speaker 1: to kind of make sure that the signal completely blankets
Speaker 1: every corner of your home.
Speaker 2: And with two of these and I'm not.
Speaker 1: Sure linksis you know, I think the companies that I
Speaker 1: typically recommend for this are either orb O R B
Speaker 1: I or ero E E r O. Those are two
Speaker 1: of the best, and so I would look into maybe
Speaker 1: getting one of those systems. And you want probably three
Speaker 1: access points, so that would that would be three of
Speaker 1: these little devices that you would put around your house,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think that that's probably going to solve.
Speaker 1: The other thing you can do if you really want
Speaker 1: to get this solved, is you know, you can hire
Speaker 1: someone to wire an Ethernet cable from the home base system,
Speaker 1: buy your TV or wherever your internet comes into your house,
Speaker 1: and then you can wire that to another room that
Speaker 1: is pretty far away and you can plug one of
Speaker 1: the access points into that and that way, it's going
Speaker 1: to get a nice strong signal that is actually like
Speaker 1: a really good signal, and it's gonna put that out
Speaker 1: through your house as well. But that's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot more expensive because you are getting someone to come
Speaker 1: to the house and drill and all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: So I would say you could probably solve this problem
Speaker 1: with a better mesh system that has three points to it.
Speaker 1: So again, look up and see if the mesh system
Speaker 1: that you have will allow a third access point. If
Speaker 1: it does, I would get that third access point, and
Speaker 1: I would also look at where you're placing these. So
Speaker 1: with Internet, you really want to place the main signal
Speaker 1: in kind of the center of the house and also
Speaker 1: up off the floor and not obstructed by anything. And
Speaker 1: then the other two you want to put in different
Speaker 1: areas that are, you know, not too far away, but
Speaker 1: far enough where it can still get the signal and
Speaker 1: put it in that area of the house, but also
Speaker 1: reach the third one and put the signal there as well.
Speaker 1: So if they're unobstructed, that would be ideal. Like if
Speaker 1: it's up like a staircase that you can see something
Speaker 1: like that, that would be ideal. But yeah, Wi Fi
Speaker 1: is it's tricky. It's not the signal. We are really
Speaker 1: stretching this signal to its maximum capacity at this point.
Speaker 1: It was really not intended to do all the things
Speaker 1: that we're doing with it. There is a new standard
Speaker 1: coming up called Wi Fi seven. It is very much emerging.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you need to upgrade to that
Speaker 1: just yet because a lot of devices don't take advantage
Speaker 1: of that just yet. But a lot of these problems
Speaker 1: hopefully will be solved with Wi Fi seven. That handles
Speaker 1: this stuff a little bit better.
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks for the question.
Speaker 1: Melody, are Ellie in or bel Inda? I thought it
Speaker 1: was odd that you lived in the President's house, but
Speaker 1: I get it, orba Inda? Okay, president from there? I
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Speaker 2: You are listening to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another hour of rich on Tech. My name
Speaker 1: is rich Demiro, broadcasting live today from Las Vegas, site
Speaker 1: of CEES.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Now the show is closed, the show is everyone's maybe
Speaker 1: everyone's gone home, but it is still the place where
Speaker 1: cees took place all week long. I've been here for
Speaker 1: the whole week and uh saw a lot, met a
Speaker 1: lot of people, saw a lot of new gadgets, and
Speaker 1: it was a good show. One hundred and thirty five
Speaker 1: thousand attendees, forty three hundred exhibitors. There was a ton
Speaker 1: to see. And this thing spreads across the entire town.
Speaker 1: It's not just the convention Center. It is the Venetian,
Speaker 1: the Expo Hall, and a whole bunch of hotel rooms
Speaker 1: because a lot of companies they may not get a
Speaker 1: booth at the show, but they rent like a hotel room,
Speaker 1: like a suite, and then they show people like you know,
Speaker 1: they meet up with people and show them what they've got.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened with Telly. This is the free
Speaker 1: ad supported television set they launched earlier in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: and they have thousands of these TVs out in the wild. Yes,
Speaker 1: you can sign up for a free ad supported TV.
Speaker 1: Ili Oposen is the creator and co founder of Telly.
Speaker 1: I caught up with him at CS to get an
Speaker 1: update on the company ili Oposen, creator and co founder
Speaker 1: of Telly on the free ad supported television set. It's
Speaker 1: a fifty five inch set also has a soundbar in
Speaker 1: the middle, and the key is the secondary screen that
Speaker 1: shows ads.
Speaker 2: Let's hear it.
Speaker 15: So I'm Elio Posen. I'm the co founder and CEO
Speaker 15: of Telly.
Speaker 8: So what made you create Telly?
Speaker 15: So my last company is actually Pluto TV if you're
Speaker 15: familiar with that, where Pluto's ad support is streaming, right,
Speaker 15: and we proved that companies who are double dipping on
Speaker 15: revenue where they're charging for a subscription service and monetizing
Speaker 15: with advertising, that you could actually run a sustainable business
Speaker 15: on just one of those revenue streams. And for Pluto,
Speaker 15: that was advertising. And when we looked at Telly in
Speaker 15: the TV market, the same thing happens right now when
Speaker 15: you're going to the store, you're buying a TV, right,
Speaker 15: and then your data is being monetized and that TV.
Speaker 4: Is delivering ads.
Speaker 15: And Telly wanted to prove the exact same thing that
Speaker 15: Pluto approved, where you can monetize and build a sustainable
Speaker 15: business model on just one revenue stream alone, in this
Speaker 15: case advertising.
Speaker 8: What do you get with the TV.
Speaker 15: Yeah, so Telly comes completely free, right. You get a
Speaker 15: fifty five inch four K HDR TV, you get a
Speaker 15: premium soundbar included by Harmon Cardon, and it comes with
Speaker 15: a second screen that's never been done before sys a
Speaker 15: dual screen TV. It also has a lot of extra
Speaker 15: features that you normally wouldn't get out of a TV,
Speaker 15: like a camera where you could do zoom calls and
Speaker 15: fitness and right out of your home, and a voice
Speaker 15: assistant built in. And the cool thing about Telly is
Speaker 15: every single month we release software updates like a Tesla.
Speaker 15: This thing gets better and better and smarter and smarter
Speaker 15: every single month as time goes by. That's never really
Speaker 15: been done on a TV before.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 4: Normally your TV.
Speaker 15: Just kind of fixes bugs and things like that, and
Speaker 15: it ages and ages over time.
Speaker 4: Telly actually gets better over time.
Speaker 8: Is there any catch?
Speaker 4: There's no catch.
Speaker 15: Just so any other TV company, whether you're buying a
Speaker 15: Samsung or a Visio Roku, they monetize your data and
Speaker 15: they give you advertising. We do the exact same thing,
Speaker 15: except we're completely upfront with consumers. Right, So we deliver advertising,
Speaker 15: we monetize data, but we're very transparent. Everything is fully
Speaker 15: opt in. We don't do anything else than noyone else
Speaker 15: does except the one thing we do is we give
Speaker 15: you a completely free TV.
Speaker 8: There's a camera on the front. Is there a microphone?
Speaker 15: So there's a camera that's shut by default. If you
Speaker 15: want to use an app like Zoom or something, then
Speaker 15: it asks you if you.
Speaker 4: Want to open it. We're very privacy first.
Speaker 15: There's a microphone that if you want to use a
Speaker 15: voice assistant, recognizes a wake word like hey Telly, and
Speaker 15: then responds to your commands. But that's it. We don't
Speaker 15: actually cord listen. Nothing happens in the background. We're a
Speaker 15: privacy first company. And that's that's how we're operating.
Speaker 1: What about the ad in the corner of the screen.
Speaker 1: Tell me how the add part of this works.
Speaker 15: Yeah, so that's that's, you know, the secret sauce of
Speaker 15: our business model.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 15: So we have two screens. The main screen, which is
Speaker 15: a fifty five inch TV. The best analogy and give
Speaker 15: is kind of like a car. That's your windshield right.
Speaker 15: The bottom screen that's your dash. It's where your spinnometer is,
Speaker 15: your radio or your nav. In this case, we show
Speaker 15: you sports scores, news weather, and yes, we have a
Speaker 15: portion of it for advertising. So we have advertising that
Speaker 15: shows you relevant ads based on who you are. So
Speaker 15: you and I would both get different ads depending on
Speaker 15: who we are as people and where we live and
Speaker 15: all the different attributes of our profiles. And that's how
Speaker 15: we operate and monetize our business.
Speaker 1: How many of these do you have out in the
Speaker 1: wild and how many do you expect.
Speaker 8: To put out there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 15: So we just announced our company public in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Three in May.
Speaker 15: We're already in thousands and thousands of homes. Our TVs
Speaker 15: are used every single day for many many hours.
Speaker 4: It's working. The business model works.
Speaker 15: Twenty twenty three read was our year of validation and
Speaker 15: twenty twenty four is going to be the year we scale.
Speaker 15: So we're planning on going into millions of homes this year.
Speaker 8: Can people still get one of these? How do they
Speaker 8: do that?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 15: Absolutely, we have a big weightlist right now. But I
Speaker 15: would sign up and go to free Telly dot com
Speaker 15: to get on the waitlist because we're about to start
Speaker 15: shipping a lot of TVs.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: Once again the website freetelly dot com, And I will say,
Speaker 1: going hands on with that TV, it is a nice TV.
Speaker 1: It's got a great picture. It has all the stuff
Speaker 1: you want on it. You can add your own streaming
Speaker 1: dongle if you want, like a fire TV or anything
Speaker 1: like that, or you can just use the one that
Speaker 1: they give you. But it seems very high quality and
Speaker 1: the sound was great, and I think what they're doing
Speaker 1: is quite interesting because it's something that everyone wants for free.
Speaker 1: Why not have a free TV? Yeah, there are ads.
Speaker 2: On the bottom.
Speaker 1: The ads. You know, they're there all the time. So
Speaker 1: are they distracting? I don't think so. We're kind of
Speaker 1: used to ads at this point, so kind of a
Speaker 1: neat thing. Again. That was a creator and co founder
Speaker 1: of Telly. The website is freetelly dot com.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: So one of the devices I saw at CS that
Speaker 1: is quite interesting reminds me of the future is a
Speaker 1: device from Wings called Bemo b E a m O BMO.
Speaker 1: This is a four and one health checkup device. It
Speaker 1: combines an ECG, blood oxygen level, stethoscope, and a thermometer.
Speaker 1: It allows you to measure your core vitals like temperature,
Speaker 1: heart rate, blood oxygen, and your lung and heart sounds,
Speaker 1: all at home medical grade health scants. It can detect
Speaker 1: things like fever, arrhythmia, and abnormal heart rate. And it
Speaker 1: also keeps records so that you can share this with
Speaker 1: your doctor. So this is two hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: It's pending FDA clearance, which is expected middle of this
Speaker 1: year June twenty twenty four. But I got to go
Speaker 1: hands on with this and try it out, and it
Speaker 1: literally felt like I was touching something and using something
Speaker 1: from the future, something you'd see like on a sci
Speaker 1: fi movie. Because you put this thing up to your
Speaker 1: heart or your lungs and it listens and it gives
Speaker 1: you a display and you do the ECG and I
Speaker 1: mean everything. Everything When you go to the doctor and
Speaker 1: they take your vitals, this thing will do. And so
Speaker 1: what is the whole point of this, Well, it is
Speaker 1: for telehealth. Imagine you want to get a quick appointment
Speaker 1: with your doctor and you know, you got a stuff
Speaker 1: he knows or whatever you got, you know, and they
Speaker 1: usually want you to come in to do all these
Speaker 1: little vitals. Now you can take all these vitals right
Speaker 1: from this device. It sends it to the doctor's screen
Speaker 1: and you can get all this stuff that you weren't
Speaker 1: able to get before. I mean, I think, especially when
Speaker 1: it comes to the stuff like this. The I can't
Speaker 1: even say the word the heart and lung sounds the
Speaker 1: sethoscope part. Why is that so tough for me to pronounce?
Speaker 1: But like that part is really tricky to get it home.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna listen to your own heart
Speaker 1: lungs right, So the fact that you can do this
Speaker 1: is quite incredible. Withings is a company that does all
Speaker 1: kinds of health stuff and they just continue to push
Speaker 1: the envelope when it comes to that. So I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna steal a big push in telehealth because there's
Speaker 1: so many things. Especially during the pandemic, we saw that
Speaker 1: there's just so many things that we can do at home,
Speaker 1: and that is one way we can advance that. Samsung
Speaker 1: unveiled a new AI companion robot for your house called Bali.
Speaker 1: This is a AI robot assistant. It was first introduced
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. They updated it. It's kind of weird looking.
Speaker 1: It looks like a little soccer ball that rolls around
Speaker 1: your house, follows you around, greets you at the door
Speaker 1: when you come home, like a dog, and it's your
Speaker 1: personal home assistance. You can ask it questions you can
Speaker 1: say something like, hey, show me a recipe for pizza,
Speaker 1: and it will project the recipe on the wall. If
Speaker 1: someone comes to your door, it will project the video
Speaker 1: of the video doorbell, like a live stream of that.
Speaker 1: So it has strong R two D two vibes. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like one of these things that's just like always around.
Speaker 1: It's spinning around, it's following you. And the big new
Speaker 1: feature is the projection. So it's got that projector on it,
Speaker 1: so it can play videos on your walls and your floors.
Speaker 1: It can play music, can help you answer phone calls,
Speaker 1: and of course this is one of those things that
Speaker 1: will it ever see the light of the day. I
Speaker 1: don't know, because typically if a tech company is going
Speaker 1: to introduce something that we are going to see, they're
Speaker 1: going to give us a price and an expected date.
Speaker 2: We have none of that with Bali, but it's still
Speaker 2: pretty cool.
Speaker 1: So Samsung Bali ai companion robot for the home, saw
Speaker 1: a short demo of it, and you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm i'm I feel like these home robot things really
Speaker 1: have to be useful for us to spend money on them,
Speaker 1: and they really have to be good. And I do
Speaker 1: think that will happen because of artificial intelligence like chat,
Speaker 1: GBT and all that stuff. But right now it is
Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot of ideas, but realistically, what is
Speaker 1: the use? What is the value of having something like
Speaker 1: that at your house?
Speaker 2: All right?
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Speaker 1: I've convinced my special guest to come on the show.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna have a special guest coming up next.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do your questions in a rapid fire segment
Speaker 1: with a very special guest coming up right here on
Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich
Speaker 1: Demiro here hanging out with you talking technology. The website
Speaker 1: rich on Tech dot TV Broadcasting live from Las Vegas
Speaker 1: and for the very first time on this show in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. It is a very special guest. It
Speaker 1: took a lot of convincing to get them on the show.
Speaker 1: Welcome my wife, Lindsey.
Speaker 16: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Were you a.
Speaker 2: Little apprehensive for coming on the show today?
Speaker 16: Yes, I wonder how you do this on a regular basis.
Speaker 16: I've got to be honest.
Speaker 1: Lindsay's been listening to the show, and you know she's
Speaker 1: here in Vegas with me. She usually meets me after SAT. Yes,
Speaker 1: we go out for a nice dinner to celebrate the
Speaker 1: week being over. And so I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's do a rapid fire question segment. So, without further ado,
Speaker 1: these are some of the emails I've gotten in the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks from you. So let's get the
Speaker 1: first one.
Speaker 16: Okay, Mollie Rights looking for an app keyboard for my
Speaker 16: iPhone which has the letters and numbers on one screen
Speaker 16: like a typewriter.
Speaker 1: Great question, Mollie. We've actually had this before on the show.
Speaker 1: And the answer to this question is an app called
Speaker 1: swift Key. So swift key was originally an app that
Speaker 1: was independent and now it is owned by Taylor.
Speaker 2: Swift just kidding.
Speaker 1: It's owned by Microsoft, so Microsoft swift Key does have
Speaker 1: an option to put the number row on top of
Speaker 1: the letter row. So there you go. Swift Key, look
Speaker 1: it up. It's available for iPhone and Android.
Speaker 16: Next question, Okay, this one's from Howard. Happy New Year, Rich.
Speaker 16: I'm cleansing my emails. I've become cautious and suspicious with
Speaker 16: unsubscribed options versus blocking email. Is it safe to click
Speaker 16: unsubscribe some required under email? I don't want to provide
Speaker 16: my email because I have a few emails. Thanks again
Speaker 16: for your tech insights, Howard.
Speaker 2: Good question.
Speaker 1: Here's my rule of thumb when it comes to unsubscribing
Speaker 1: from emails. You can safely unsubscribe to any email from
Speaker 1: a legitimate sender. That's a Macy's, that's a home depot,
Speaker 1: bed bath, and beyond those kind of emails that come
Speaker 1: from a large company or any company that is using
Speaker 1: an email service that is legitimate, like a mail or
Speaker 1: anything like that constant contact. Those are very safe to
Speaker 1: unsubscribe to. It is the emails that are unsolicited or
Speaker 1: spam that sometimes have unsubscribe in the footer. What they're
Speaker 1: trying to do is trick you. They're trying to confirm
Speaker 1: that you open that email and you have a good
Speaker 1: email address, and then once you click on subscribe, they'll
Speaker 1: actually send you more emails. So for those emails, you
Speaker 1: can just throw them out, trash them, don't even open them.
Speaker 1: For the legitimate emails, you can safely unsubscribe. When it
Speaker 1: comes to entering your email address. That's a pet peeve
Speaker 1: of mine. I don't think that should be the case.
Speaker 1: A lot of these email providers have switched to one
Speaker 1: click unsubscribe. Sometimes, if I can tell it's legitimate, I
Speaker 1: will put my email address in there to confirm. Otherwise
Speaker 1: I would just delete that email and hopefully it doesn't
Speaker 1: come back.
Speaker 16: Next question, Okay, this one's from Nilda hi Rich Demiro.
Speaker 16: I daily watch Ketla five news and I enjoy your
Speaker 16: segments there. I was wondering if my books and my
Speaker 16: kindle fire are sinkable. Is that even a word to
Speaker 16: my iPad? Or are they transferable? Thanks again, thanks ahead
Speaker 16: if you can help.
Speaker 2: This is from Nilda. Nilda, good question.
Speaker 1: This is this is pretty wild because when I wrote
Speaker 1: my book for the iPhone, it was so complicated because
Speaker 1: people didn't realize how they could read a Kindle book
Speaker 1: if they didn't own a Kindle And so this is
Speaker 1: what's happening here. You've got a kind Kindle Fire, and
Speaker 1: you've got books that you purchased on those Yes, you
Speaker 1: can easily get those on your iPad. All you have
Speaker 1: to do is download the Kindle app for iPad. Kindle
Speaker 1: has an app for pretty much every operating system out there,
Speaker 1: So if you're purchasing Kindle books from Amazon, yes, you
Speaker 1: can read them on almost any device out there. So
Speaker 1: just go ahead, download the Kindle app on your iPad.
Speaker 1: All of your books in your library will show up there,
Speaker 1: and it is sinkable. So if you get to page
Speaker 1: five hundred on your iPad, you open up your Kindle Fire.
Speaker 1: As long as they're both connected to Wi Fi or
Speaker 1: the Internet, they will sync and you'll be exactly where
Speaker 1: you left off. Good question, Nilda. Let's to get another one, lindsay.
Speaker 16: Eric, right, is there any way to add a flip
Speaker 16: phone to my iPhone account and have calls and texts
Speaker 16: forward to it? I don't want to add a line
Speaker 16: or a number, just roll calls and text. I have Verizon.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is this is possible, but it's not
Speaker 1: necessarily simple. So there are a limited amount of devices
Speaker 1: that you can share your mobile number with, and Verizon
Speaker 1: calls this number share. All of these cellular carriers have
Speaker 1: a slightly different way of treating this. But for Verizon
Speaker 1: you mentioned is it's called number share, and so they
Speaker 1: have a couple of devices and if you go to
Speaker 1: their website Verizon dot com and look up number share,
Speaker 1: it will tell you which devices you can share your
Speaker 1: phone number with. Most of the devices and this feature
Speaker 1: pretty much launched with the Apple Watch. Most of them
Speaker 1: are watches, whether it's the Apple Watch, whether it's a
Speaker 1: pixel Watch, whether it's a Fossil Watch, but they are
Speaker 1: Samsung Galaxy watches. They do have a few that you
Speaker 1: can get and oh gosh, they get rid of the
Speaker 1: one that I was testing. Hold on, let me see,
Speaker 1: I think they got rid of it. Oh, I don't
Speaker 1: see it there anymore. There used to be a phone
Speaker 1: called the light Phone, and I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: on the list anymore. But anyway, there are a couple
Speaker 1: of devices on the list. You can't typically just use
Speaker 1: any old flip phone to connect to this. You do
Speaker 1: have to find a device that is on this list,
Speaker 1: and it is limited. So if you find a device
Speaker 1: on there, I'm looking to see if they have a
Speaker 1: flip phone on here. I don't know if they have
Speaker 1: one that you can get. Let me see what this
Speaker 1: one is. I'm not really seeing a flip phone on here,
Speaker 1: so I'm not sure this is completely possible. It says
Speaker 1: Palm Companion phone. What's that. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: that is. Oh wow, I don't even think they have
Speaker 1: that anymore. But you can go to the Verizon website.
Speaker 1: It is possible, but it is very, very limited, and
Speaker 1: it's all about money because they don't want you using
Speaker 1: a cheap flip phone because they charge you ten bucks
Speaker 1: a month. They don't want you using that. They want
Speaker 1: you to get a whole another line.
Speaker 16: All right, next question, Okay, let's answer Chef Alex's question.
Speaker 16: First of all, let me let you know that you
Speaker 16: are amazing. I love finding out new gadgets, apps and
Speaker 16: new technology. Seriously, I check your page for new and
Speaker 16: fun staff, so thank you. My question is when do
Speaker 16: you recommend booking a fight and do you prefer Airbnb
Speaker 16: or verbo?
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 2: Oh, two part question.
Speaker 1: So number one, recommend booking a flight? I recommend booking
Speaker 1: it as soon as you have the money and you
Speaker 1: are ready to do it, because flights go up and
Speaker 1: down all the time and price, and it's one price
Speaker 1: that's right for me may not be right for you,
Speaker 1: may not be right for someone else. So when you
Speaker 1: feel like it's a fair deal and it's working out
Speaker 1: for you, go ahead and book it. The place ide
Speaker 1: book flights flights dot Google dot com is the only
Speaker 1: place I use to research my flights Airbnb versus Verbo. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm a hotel guy, so if I had to choose,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I probably Airbnb.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Lindsey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: It was fun.
Speaker 2: My wife Lindsay On the show.
Speaker 1: Coming up, we're going to talk to Ben Wye, CEO
Speaker 1: of coin Flip, to explain what happened with bitcoin. This
Speaker 1: week is rich on Tech.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology live
Speaker 1: from Las Vegas today. Here for CS twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: which has is completed. It has finished, it is done.
Speaker 2: A lot of people counting.
Speaker 1: Their steps this week. We did a lot, but it
Speaker 1: was fun. We saw a lot of great stuff, but
Speaker 1: one of the big news stories of the week while
Speaker 1: we were here involves bitcoin. And yes, we've heard about
Speaker 1: bitcoin on and off for years now, but this is
Speaker 1: it seems like a very big shift in the entire
Speaker 1: crypto world. Let's bring on Ben Weis's CEO of coin
Speaker 1: flip to talk about it. Ben wi CEO of coin flip,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining me today. Hey, Rich, I'm doing great.
Speaker 1: First off, tell me what coin flip does. What do
Speaker 1: you do at coin flip?
Speaker 17: So, coin flip operates over five thousand big ms where
Speaker 17: people can physically perch bitcoin in other crypto and physical locations.
Speaker 17: We operate in nine countries and we have over five
Speaker 17: one hundred locations in California and about one hundred in Nevada.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, so you do bitcoin atm so you're
Speaker 1: pretty well versed in this stuff. So let's talk about
Speaker 1: first off, the well, let's explain bitcoin first.
Speaker 17: Yeah, and I've been now in this space for over
Speaker 17: a decade, since I was eighteen.
Speaker 7: But bitcoin is a digital currency.
Speaker 17: It's not owned or operated by a central bank or
Speaker 17: any private company. It's simply a decentralized currency on the blockchain.
Speaker 17: And it was the first crypto ever and it's the
Speaker 17: most popular crypto, and this week the SEC just approved
Speaker 17: eleven ETFs for bitcoin, which will make it more easy
Speaker 17: for people to buy.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the big news this week, and this was
Speaker 1: rumored for a while and why, you know, why is
Speaker 1: that significant and what does that mean exactly?
Speaker 17: Yeah, So ETFs are exchange traded and for those of
Speaker 17: you who purchase stocks, you probably have bought ETFs with
Speaker 17: your online brokerage account or financial advisor on things like
Speaker 17: Vanguard in Fidelity and tdomrriort Trade, And until last week,
Speaker 17: there was no way to purchase bitcoin.
Speaker 7: On any of those traditional brokerages.
Speaker 17: So you had a lot of people who wanted to
Speaker 17: buy bitcoin, but didn't want to buy it that ples
Speaker 17: didn't want to have to worry about storing bitcoin on
Speaker 17: their own wallets.
Speaker 7: I mean, Rich, I'm sure you've heard about.
Speaker 17: The horror stories of people, especially earlier, earlier in the
Speaker 17: early days of bitcoin, who lost access to their crypto
Speaker 17: because they lost their hard drives and things like that.
Speaker 7: So this allows.
Speaker 17: People to get exposure to bitcoin and the upside of
Speaker 17: bitcoin without holding the coin themselves, because the coin is
Speaker 17: held by these exchange traded funds, and you're seeing some
Speaker 17: of the smartest companies in the world, like Blackrock, get
Speaker 17: into the space. So it's a huge day for crypto
Speaker 17: and this will make bitcoin and other cryptos more accessible
Speaker 17: for everyone.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's an interesting aspect that I had not thought
Speaker 1: of because and by the way, I think you cut
Speaker 1: out when you said ETF that's exchange traded fund. These
Speaker 1: are like the hot product in the investment world. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like a mutual fund, I guess, but like
Speaker 1: with less fees and things like that, and it's kind
Speaker 1: of like automated too, right.
Speaker 17: Yeah, So instead of buying individual stocks and having to
Speaker 17: manage that, the fund manages on those stocks, so you
Speaker 17: could have more diversified exposure to areas of the economy
Speaker 17: without having to buy and manage all the individual stocks yourself.
Speaker 17: So that was a concept that was pioneered in the
Speaker 17: traditional stock investing space. Is many of listeners probably have
Speaker 17: participated in that space, and now that whole concept is
Speaker 17: brought to bitcoin.
Speaker 7: So instead of people having to buy.
Speaker 17: Individual bitcoins and hold them on hot wallets and cold
Speaker 17: wallets and you know, on their phone and worry about
Speaker 17: losing them, they can.
Speaker 7: Just buy that ETF that tracks the price.
Speaker 17: Of bitcoin, so if bitcoin goes up, they'll get those
Speaker 17: gains and they won't have to worry about managing or
Speaker 17: holding bitcoin themselves.
Speaker 7: And the industry has been pushing the.
Speaker 17: SEC to approve some of these ETFs for years now,
Speaker 17: and actually about a couple months ago, a federal appeals
Speaker 17: court in DC said that the SEC improperly rejected in
Speaker 17: ETF So the SEC had to reconsider the ETFs and
Speaker 17: the first approvals came down this week.
Speaker 1: Wow. So why do you think the government changed their
Speaker 1: course on this?
Speaker 17: Well, I think at the end of the day, the
Speaker 17: SEC's all about consumer protection and this is a novel technology, right,
Speaker 17: and with novel technologies there could be increased risk to
Speaker 17: increase risk, so I think the SEC was taking their time.
Speaker 7: And it's not uncommon to when.
Speaker 17: Firms apply for whether it's an ETF, for approvals for
Speaker 17: other things, that the SEC will have commentary back, or
Speaker 17: we'll ask for a little bit of different change in
Speaker 17: business model. So there has been some back and forth there,
Speaker 17: and then there was the court decisions which provides more
Speaker 17: guidance as well. So it looks like with the changes
Speaker 17: to some of the applications and the court decisions, the
Speaker 17: SEC was finally satisfied to approve eleven of these ETFs, and.
Speaker 7: I'm sure they'll be poor.
Speaker 17: That was just for Bitcoin, So there's other cryptocurrencies. There's Etherorum,
Speaker 17: and I'm sure that people will be trying to get
Speaker 17: Ethereum and other crypto ETFs proved next.
Speaker 1: I mean, so look, the bottom line is, if you
Speaker 1: have a retirement account or any sort of investment account,
Speaker 1: you can now easily get into crypto. And it seems
Speaker 1: like it's a very legitimate way to do this because, yes,
Speaker 1: there's been many ways of buying this in the past,
Speaker 1: but you had to sign up for, like you said,
Speaker 1: a secondary you know, any one of these programs or
Speaker 1: apps that would sell it to you that you may
Speaker 1: not have done business with before. But if you're buying
Speaker 1: it through your you know, Fidelity or Vanguard or any
Speaker 1: of these like big brand names that you know, I
Speaker 1: feel like that means a lot of people will feel
Speaker 1: much more comfortable getting in on this or at least
Speaker 1: having some, you know, some of this in their portfolio.
Speaker 1: Is that the idea behind why we've seen the price
Speaker 1: go up with bitcoin.
Speaker 17: I mean, I think you're one hundred percent like the
Speaker 17: early adopters of crypto. Maybe people who are very technically sophisticated,
Speaker 17: you know, they probably bought crypto already. They're comfortable self
Speaker 17: customing their own coins on wallets, on.
Speaker 7: Their phone and things like that.
Speaker 17: But for the average person it can be kind of
Speaker 17: intimidating and confusing. Like I know, someone like my you know,
Speaker 17: like my mom and dad, they you know, have been
Speaker 17: buying stocks and ETFs for a while, and they can
Speaker 17: just now log into their tdom Merrior Trader, you know,
Speaker 17: Vanguard and have the option to buy crypto.
Speaker 7: It just makes it so much easier, and.
Speaker 17: Then they don't have to worry about things like do
Speaker 17: I have to remember passwords and codes, you know, for
Speaker 17: my own wallets. So it just simplifies the process. And
Speaker 17: I do think it has a lot to do with
Speaker 17: the price increase. We're sueing bitcoin today just sitting under
Speaker 17: forty three thousand.
Speaker 7: Dollars a coin. And just so your listeners know, you
Speaker 7: don't have to buy one coin at once.
Speaker 17: The bitcoin's infinitely divisible, which means you could buy twenty
Speaker 17: dollars of it fifty dollars, one thousand dollars. But this
Speaker 17: adds so much legitimacy to the space, and this also
Speaker 17: opens up crypto and bitcoin to a bunch of investors
Speaker 17: who would have never considered it before.
Speaker 1: Ben, I'm going to read you an email from you know,
Speaker 1: I have my Gmail account, which you know has an
Speaker 1: archive all my emails. This is from a friend that
Speaker 1: was in the bitcoin space. Early Thursday, November seventh, twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: He says, I just want to put this on your radar.
Speaker 1: We're having another bitcoin meetup. Bitcoin is in the news
Speaker 1: a lot, and the price just hit a new high
Speaker 1: at over three hundred dollars per bitcoin. I think the
Speaker 1: last time I talked to you about bitcoin, it was
Speaker 1: at one hundred and twenty five, so it is growing.
Speaker 1: He was trying to ask me to buy bitcoin back
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, and I didn't. But this goes to
Speaker 1: show that this thing has been around for a while.
Speaker 1: There have been people that have been tracking, like yourself
Speaker 1: and this person very closely.
Speaker 2: Should I have bought back.
Speaker 17: Then, Well, I think a lot of people think they
Speaker 17: should have bought back then, But you know, it's never
Speaker 17: too late, and I think people should do their research
Speaker 17: because you want to have conviction not just in bitcoin,
Speaker 17: but in any sort of financial asset you buy because
Speaker 17: you know, prices go up, prices go down. But if
Speaker 17: you have conviction in the financial asset you're buying, you're
Speaker 17: more likely to hold it long and have better returns.
Speaker 17: But to your point, Bitcoin's been incredibly resilient. I mean,
Speaker 17: let's face it, crypto's had some horrible headlines in the
Speaker 17: past year or two, from FTX to binance. We've also
Speaker 17: had the interest rates go through to over five percent.
Speaker 17: And for bitcoin to be sitting at forty five thousand
Speaker 17: dollars today or forty three thousand dollars today, it wasn't
Speaker 17: forty five thousand a couple of days ago. But to
Speaker 17: be sitting that high with you know, bad news, higher
Speaker 17: interest rates, some economic uncertainty, I think is an incredibly
Speaker 17: positive sign for crypto and for bitcoin. And now you
Speaker 17: have very legitimate players like black Rock, Chase, JP Morgan
Speaker 17: getting into the fray.
Speaker 7: And then, for those of your listeners who don't know,
Speaker 7: this year twenty twenty.
Speaker 17: Four, so every four years with bitcoin, there's something called
Speaker 17: the happening that means the rewards to minors, the supply
Speaker 17: of crypto that's generated every ten minutes actually cuts in half,
Speaker 17: So there's more scarcely every four years with bitcoin, and
Speaker 17: that's typically also in price as well, So there's a
Speaker 17: there's a lot of signs that have allowed bitcoin to
Speaker 17: really kind of break out from the fold.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 1: All right, Ben Weiss, we're gonna leave it there, Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for joining me today.
Speaker 7: Thanks so much, Rich, how a good one?
Speaker 1: All right, Ben wi CEO and co founder of coin flip.
Speaker 1: This is a Bitcoin ATM provider. Is coin flip dot tech? Again?
Speaker 1: That was Ben Weiss, CEO and co founder of coin flip,
Speaker 1: the website coin flip dot tech. Do your research before
Speaker 1: you jump in. Like anything else that has to do
Speaker 1: with money, you gotta do your research. But it is
Speaker 1: certainly an interesting, interesting.
Speaker 2: Place with bitcoin.
Speaker 1: All right, coming up the feedback segment. Can't wait, rich
Speaker 1: on Tech, Rich Demiro here, we'll be right back. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech here, hanging out with you
Speaker 1: talking technology. As you can see, my special guest is
Speaker 1: still chatting into the microphone. That's my wife, Lindsay. She
Speaker 1: joined me today to read some of your questions. I
Speaker 1: think she did a very good job. I do have
Speaker 1: a warning though, for you. If you got gift cards
Speaker 1: over the holidays, check the balance immediately. This happened to us,
Speaker 1: and it's quite scary. It's happening to a lot of
Speaker 1: people based on the comments on my Instagram and Facebook page.
Speaker 1: But basically what happens is scam artists go to the stores,
Speaker 1: they write down the numbers from gift cards, so like
Speaker 1: somehow open up the back of them, write down the
Speaker 1: number and then they'll record that number, keep it at home,
Speaker 1: and I guess they check on a daily basis to
Speaker 1: see if any money got charged up onto that card,
Speaker 1: and as soon as it does, they drain the funds.
Speaker 1: So what happens when you get gift cards, right, you
Speaker 1: give them, you buy them at the store, You hold
Speaker 1: on to them for a week, You give it to
Speaker 1: a person at a birthday party or the holidays, that
Speaker 1: person gets it, they hold on to it for a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. So, as you can see, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of time here for the scam artists to do
Speaker 1: their work. And so I've noticed that a lot of
Speaker 1: registers they will look at the cards, they will visually
Speaker 1: inspect them to make sure that they have not been
Speaker 1: tampered with, but it doesn't always catch them. And so
Speaker 1: what you need to do. If you have a gift
Speaker 1: card that you got over the holidays. Number one, check
Speaker 1: the balance and make sure that it is valid, because
Speaker 1: if it's not. The quicker you do this, the more
Speaker 1: of a chance you might have of recovering those funds.
Speaker 1: The problem is gift cards are pretty much treated as cash.
Speaker 1: But if you have the receipt and you've got your information,
Speaker 1: some people say they are successful in getting the money back.
Speaker 1: But this is a very very big issue that again
Speaker 1: it happened to us, and you know, it's just one
Speaker 1: of those things where there are so many gift cards.
Speaker 1: Gift cards are almost their own currency, and it's just
Speaker 1: it's very simple for these scam artists to do this apparently,
Speaker 1: and people buy these cards, they don't look at the back,
Speaker 1: they don't notice that numbers are scratched off and recorded,
Speaker 1: and they put the money on it and it's gone.
Speaker 1: So check for that for sure before we get to
Speaker 1: the feedback. Two more things I saw at CES I
Speaker 1: thought were pretty cool. Zekes zox. This is a fully
Speaker 1: autonomous ride hailing vehicle made by Amazon owned Zekes. This
Speaker 1: is a vehicle with no human controls. There's no steering wheels,
Speaker 1: there's no pedals, there's four seats inside. The car goes
Speaker 1: up to seventy five miles an hour. It can go
Speaker 1: either way. So the lights on the front and the
Speaker 1: back changed from white to red so it can go
Speaker 1: back or forth. It's starting public service in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four in Las Vegas. And this is pretty wild. It's
Speaker 1: like basically a ride hailing taxi, but there's no human
Speaker 1: controls and no human inside. It's called zekes Zox that
Speaker 1: is coming soon from an Amazon owned company. And then
Speaker 1: this was pretty cool. An electric grill. So Current has
Speaker 1: a smart electric grill. It's called the Current Model G.
Speaker 1: It's Wi Fi enabled, fully electric, you can use it outside.
Speaker 2: It's got a mobile app.
Speaker 1: Preheats in ten minutes, reaches seven hundred degrees dual temperature zones.
Speaker 1: And again everything is going electric. Now the grill is
Speaker 1: going electric as well. And speaking of electric, how about
Speaker 1: indoor smoker. GE has an indoor smart smoker. This is
Speaker 1: an indoor electric smoker. It's got this filtration system on
Speaker 1: it that lets you smoke food inside. Can you imagine,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know.
Speaker 2: When you smoke food.
Speaker 1: I've never done it, but I've been around people that do.
Speaker 1: And it's a lot of smoke, but they figured out
Speaker 1: a way to kind of capture that smoke clean out
Speaker 1: the air. And I was near this thing, and you
Speaker 1: can smell the smoky flavor. But it's not like an
Speaker 1: outdoor smoker for sure. So now if you have an
Speaker 1: inside you know, don't have an outside, or you live
Speaker 1: in a condo or an apartment or whatever, you can
Speaker 1: now have an indoor smoker holds up to three racks
Speaker 1: of ribs or a fourteen pound pork butt. Is that
Speaker 1: what people are making. It's got connected features and small footprints,
Speaker 1: a lot of it is dishwasher safe, and it's available
Speaker 1: for nine hundred ninety nine dollars. Again, that's the ge
Speaker 1: profile smart indoor smoker. And they were smoking a chicken
Speaker 1: in there or something like that. Maybe it was a
Speaker 1: pork butt. I don't know. All right, let's get to
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Speaker 1: Say, hello, hello and goodbye. What'd you think of? What
Speaker 1: do you think about being on the show today? Did
Speaker 1: you like it?
Speaker 16: I actually really liked it. It was really fun and fun
Speaker 16: to see you in action.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and in live time. Have you ever watched me
Speaker 1: do the show before?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 16: Only when I brought the kids in that one day
Speaker 16: for a couple minutes, but not the entire show.
Speaker 1: This was really fun, all right. What would you do differently.
Speaker 2: Me personally?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 16: Uh, be a little more relaxed, you know. Now the
Speaker 16: second time, I'll be.
Speaker 1: A proud Okay. Well, oh I just heard it. Sounds
Speaker 1: like Lindsay's gonna come back. I think we didn't scare
Speaker 1: you away. I like that. Okay, Oh I have time
Speaker 1: for one more feedback. Thanks Lindsay for being on the show.
Speaker 1: Jim says, I popped into a store to buy cash
Speaker 1: to pay cash to buy a birthday card. When I
Speaker 1: got the receipt, it looks like the point of sale
Speaker 1: device tried to use two contactless cards before processing my
Speaker 1: cash transaction. Neither of the cards on the receipt match
Speaker 1: what I carry in my RFID blocking wallet. I wonder
Speaker 1: if the poor cashier is going to see a large
Speaker 1: bill if the card he tries to tap were hers. Ooh,
Speaker 1: I have noticed those NFC credit cards are working from
Speaker 1: further and further away, it seems so yes, be careful
Speaker 1: when you put them by the register. All right.
Speaker 5: My name is rich Demiro.
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