1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid Verbo. I'm that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: for Dake Edith State. Is that woo woom? And now 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Dan and Tie. 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: Oh, this is your Captain, Tie hilden Brandt, joining me 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: as always on the open Seas, Your Lieutenant Dan Rubinstein, Sir. 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: Ohoy, how are you? Oh? Hey, Ty, I'm frosty. I 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: am frosty here. I am ocean adjacent much more so 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: than you are. And I can tell you it is 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: wind swept. Oh, it is time to really be careful 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: up there on the deck as we're getting close to shore. Tie, 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: we are nearing close to college football postseason shore. But 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: there's some work that has to be done. So wait, 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: have we been out you're masked? Have we been out 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: on the open seas this whole time? A lah water 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: world waiting for the season to end? Is that, in 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: a way we go with floating along time? In a way, 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: we've sort of been floating along trying to figure out 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: the ways of this beautiful sea, you know, the mysterious 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: ways that she is able to take us from port 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: to ports yep, and just do our best along the way. 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: But we've got a very exciting twos cruise for you 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: today because we really instead of a lot of what 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: our two's cruise episodes have amounted to, I shouldn't say 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: a lot, but there's a chunk of what our two's 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: cruise shows have amounted to have basically been variations of 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: is this situation all right? No, okay, no it's not 29 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Is this situation right? Oh? Yeah, it's not bad, it's 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: not bad. We're going to try to take up a 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: pretty holistic view today on the twos cruise. I'm very 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: excited about that. If you are, I don't know a 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: board for your maiden voyage here with us on the 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: solid verbal or the two's cruise on the solid verbal. 35 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for downloading, for listening, for following 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: the great sport of college football. We're going to be 37 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: here with you all throughout the college football season, all 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: throughout the calendar year. But we go three shows a 39 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: week at least for the next couple weeks until we 40 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: figure out where all of this stuff is headed this 41 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Tuesday show. Again, not too wax poetic about what our 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: intentions are here, but Our purpose is to try and 43 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: make sense of it all, to try and put the 44 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: pieces together see where things are going in the world 45 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: of college football. If you haven't subscribed yet, please do so. 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: You can do so out on Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitch 47 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: or overcast, tune in, pocketcast, pocketcasts no podcast addicts. Excuse me, yeah, 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: you're gonna said pocketcast twice there, But anywhere you get 49 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: your podcasts, you can listen to this show and subscribe. 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: You can also follow us out there on social media, 51 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: and if there's anything you missed in between, you can 52 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: go on out to our website at soliverbal dot com 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: where you can find all the good morsels that you 54 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: might have missed. To mid Us doing gosh three shows 55 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: a week. Yep, as Dan said, this is the naut 56 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: themed show. One final point, if I could, Dan, you 57 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: may before we jump into the permission granted, thank you, 58 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: Thank you. Lieutenant. 59 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: Did you happen to see who had a pick six 60 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: for Notre Dame this past weekend? 61 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: Is it your guy? I forget Kyle something. It is 62 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: not my guy? 63 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, it's not Kyle Hamilton. 64 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: Now oh was it Moala? He wanted to say, feely 65 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: Moala Paul Moala Wala. We're gonna split our audience in 66 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: half with the continued use of I Am Mowana, but 67 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: the half that stays with us will be more dedicated 68 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: to than any podcast audience. I was, honestly if some 69 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: people talked about the game last week, the I Am 70 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: Mowana game, and we got some feedback from people who said, 71 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I appreciate the swing, didn't really didn't 72 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: get there for me. Got old that was like a 73 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: very small minority of people. I was anticipating it being 74 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: a lot more split, a lot more people saying I 75 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: don't know, because that's how I felt. I had a 76 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: good time doing the episode, but conceptually, before I got 77 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: into it, that's how I felt. And then we got 78 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: the feedback from the listeners, and it turns out our 79 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: listenership is like exclusively thirty three and a half year 80 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: old dads who appreciate and love Mowana. So, you know, 81 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: misstep from me, I guess, but I'm glad it was 82 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: what Paul, what did you say? Malala? Paul Moala? Paul Malala, 83 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: so very close to Moana. So we're inspiring the people. 84 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: What are we doing today? We're not doing the Moana 85 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: theme again this time. You've got the keys. Where are 86 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: we going on our Tues cruise tonight? 87 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: So we're going oceanic. We are going with a river 88 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: regatta and we have a seafaring School of the Week 89 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: first though. By the way, rankings wise, yes, here was 90 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: your eight people. Because we're recording this even though it's 91 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: the Twoes cruise, it's recorded before the Tuesday rankings for 92 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: the playoff. If that's the thing that you like, those 93 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: come out. It's LSU, Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia, Alabama, Alabama 94 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: of course down there starting quarterback. I don't know if 95 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: you've like, if you honestly believe, and I can listen 96 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: to cases for each but Alabama as the fifth best 97 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: team in the country with Mac Jones, are they I'm wow? 98 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean, look, yeah, if there's any team in college 99 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: football that can make that claim, it's probably Alabama. 100 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: But two, it just took them to a different level. 101 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: Man. 102 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: He was so good. You know, it's just such a 103 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: water down version with Mac Jones. And unfortunately it sucks 104 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: to say it, but I'm inclined to say, no, they're 105 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: not top five. 106 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: So do you think and I did not, you know, 107 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: schedule this question with you. I didn't put this in 108 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: our outline or anything like that. So I apologize for 109 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: putting you on the spot like this. But there are 110 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: and have been ways in which Alabama could sort of sneak, 111 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: as to derisive a term, but Alabama could get into 112 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: the playoff if unexpected losses were to happen to say, 113 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, Georgia LSU, Clemson, Ohio State and conference championship 114 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: games and Alabama looks strong against Auburn and doesn't have 115 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 1: to play. You know, we've seen that scenario before. Sure, 116 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: if Alabama is in position at eleven and one, let's 117 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: say mac Jones leads Alabama to a comfortable, if not 118 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: dominant win over Auburn, like a twenty four to fourteen, 119 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: and it's never really in doubt there, you know, last 120 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: few minutes of the game. Sure finished eleven and one, 121 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: and there's good enough there's a good enough case for 122 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: Alabama to get in. But we have a pretty good 123 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: sense that Mac Jones is not probably a good enough 124 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: quarterback to be a top top top team, to lead 125 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: a top team and to beat a top team. Should 126 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: that be dramatically considered by the committee. Should that just 127 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: be a factor and a sea of many factors, where 128 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: do you come down? 129 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: I think it should be a factor. I think it 130 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: should be something the committee considers. 131 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: You might remember a couple of years ago with Cardile 132 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: Jones absolutely and Ohio State, that was a very unique situation. 133 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: He was a third string quarterback. Did they leave doubt though? No, 134 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: they didn't leave out, They didn't break out. And I 135 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: think that's your point. I think it's a valid one. 136 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: But they won, but they won their conference. Ohio State 137 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: won their conference. They won their conference. 138 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: But they also looked really good down the stretch with 139 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: Cardile Jones at the helm, right, And I think that's 140 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: the point you're you're going for here. If mac Jones 141 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: can come out and lead Alabama to you know, very 142 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: decisive victory in all their remaining games, then it's obviously 143 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: a tougher a tougher spot for the committee to be 144 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: And I just the problem I have with it is 145 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: there's so much AMMO elsewhere. You know, even though there 146 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: wasn't a state back in that Cardile Jones era, what 147 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: Ohio State did removed so much doubt that it was 148 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: almost I thought a no brainer for them to go 149 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: through into the playoffs. But there's so many, many other 150 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: really good teams. Like we've got an interesting case developing 151 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve. Let's say if both Oregon and 152 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: Utah went out and play in the Pac twelve Championship, Oklahoma, right, Oklahoma, 153 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: maybe not the best show in this past weekend, but 154 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: they're going to have a chance against Oklahoma State. They're 155 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: gonna have another chance in the Big twelve Championship game. 156 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: Both of those teams have you know, title claims in 157 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: their conference. 158 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: They would have title claims in their conference. Sure, So 159 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: I just I think it's too crowded for Alabama at 160 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: this juncture. 161 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: You mentioned how and I'll remove the Big Ten Championship 162 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: from it in the way that you mentioned Cardil Jones 163 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: and Ohio State left no doubt just murdering Wisconsin taking 164 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: it to Alabama and obviously winning the national championship eventually. 165 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: But in that way, if Alabama is in the conversation, 166 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: which is a lot more wild CARDI perhaps and Ohio 167 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: State was sort of in that position, but they got in. 168 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: If they are in that, you know, every chaos happens 169 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: these last couple of weeks, and Alabama is on merely 170 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: equal footing as a bunch of other teams. Is there 171 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: a degree victory, a margin of victory over Auburn that 172 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: will ease your mind into mac Jones and Alabama being 173 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: more of a playoff consideration. If they beat them thirty 174 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: five to three, if they beat them fifty two to twenty, like, 175 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: if they really lay it on them, does that sway 176 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: you anymore? I think so? Okay, I think so. I 177 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: think it's sort of human nature to get mark. I 178 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: don't think you can write them off now. I'm not, 179 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: but I'm not willing to write them off. 180 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: All I'm saying is we have insufficient data on mac 181 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: Jones and what the mac Jones offense looks like. And 182 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: it also feels more crowded this year and will be 183 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: more complicated. The road is more complicated for Alabama than 184 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: it was for Ohio State in a somewhat similar situation 185 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. 186 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: Where do you think, and I don't know, if you 187 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: have the rankings in front of you, where do you 188 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: think there is a line? Where's that line? Is it 189 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: after Oklahoma before Penn State? Is it after Penn State 190 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: before Florida? Is it after Alabama before Oregon. Where is 191 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: the playoff caliber tier to you? 192 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: Well, if we're talking about the AP, we've got LSU, 193 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: Ohio State clips in Georgia, I would say the playoff 194 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: line for me is after Clemson and Wow. I feel 195 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: really strongly about those top three teams, but everything below 196 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: that line, to me, comes with a degree of risk, 197 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: and certainly those teams are not without question. Georgia, we've 198 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: talked nauseam about their offense, defense, very good offensive concern. Alabama, 199 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: we just spent the first ten minutes of this show 200 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: talking about mac Jones and Tua and what the offense 201 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: looks like, lack of a championship, so on and so forth. 202 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: Oregon and Utah are interesting and I hope to god 203 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: they both play in that Pac twelve game. That would 204 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: be a lot of fun. But I think we both 205 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: Hargan's in. 206 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: We both have. 207 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: Questions about each of those two teams. Oklahoma, Oklahoma, My 208 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: lingering question is can they separate from a top forty team? 209 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: Didn't happen this past weekend. You could argue they were 210 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: lucky to win, and certainly with Penn State and you 211 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: go down to Florida, it's you know, maybe Penn State 212 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 2: still has a puncher's chance. I don't think that's the case, 213 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: but I could certainly envision that scenario. And I think 214 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: Florida's just too far down. Plus they've got two losses. 215 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: So in terms of who do I feel confident in 216 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: as a playoff team, it really is only three teams 217 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: at this point, and it's LSC, Ohio State, and Clemson. 218 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: They're the three unbeatings. So my hang tier is after Utah. 219 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: I think Utah, Oregon, Alabama, and Georgia could all hang 220 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: with the top three teams could all appear to be 221 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: playing on the same level. I think you're right in 222 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: saying LC, Ohio State, and Clemson right now have sort 223 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: of pulled away from the field. But I think in 224 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: terms of Georgia's defense, Oregon's you know, combination of defense 225 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: and quarterback, Utah's defense, and Oregon Utah, you can make 226 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: an argument that they aren't fully tested, they haven't separated themselves. 227 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: Really sure good team, right, I just I think it's 228 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: between Utah and Oklahoma. Oklahoma doesn't seem trustworthy to me 229 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: that the degree to which their defense has fallen against 230 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: pretty decent teams has them on the outside looking in, 231 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: But otherwise I think the other teams, those four teams George, Alabama, Oregon, 232 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: Utah are all playoff GEA. 233 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: I agree that they're playoff caliber, and I think to 234 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: some degree they're playoff worthy, But just in terms of confidence, now, 235 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: sure confidence, given where we are, I'm really only confident 236 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: in those top three teams. 237 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: Is there any team that doesn't have the resume but 238 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: that you think could neutral site any given Saturday type thing? Like, 239 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: do you think Michigan all of a sudden looks like 240 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: they're hangable? I guess we'll know against Ohio State in 241 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. But is there any team outside 242 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: of that conversation that at least does something well enough 243 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: to say, well, I don't know, I don't know. Michigan's interesting, 244 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: aren't they? Yeah? 245 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think Florida. So you're saying basically outside 246 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: that top eight. 247 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: Outside that top eight outside even like Florida's had their 248 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: shots against playoff caliber teams, and so has Michigan obviously, 249 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: but right now, the level that Michigan is playing, to me, 250 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: there's something a little interesting. 251 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: Well it's ever since the second half of the Penn 252 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 2: State game. Yeah, if I've said it once to set 253 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: it a thousand times, it seems like I don't know. 254 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say things clicked, but things sort of did click. 255 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: And then there was the Notre Dame game where they 256 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 2: destroyed Notre Dame. And since then they've been They've been 257 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: playing really well offensively. Shaye Patterson has had his best 258 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: game in this past weekend as a Wolverine. So all 259 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: that stuff is very encouraging. But certainly, as you go 260 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: down past eight and nine with Penn State, of every team, 261 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: I would say, beyond Penn State, I think I fear 262 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: Michigan the most. I think they're the one that feels 263 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: like they're playing with the most momentum right now. And 264 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: you know, a game this weekend against Indiana, which we'll 265 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: talk about on Thursday, but certainly the game against Ohio 266 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 2: State looms pretty large. 267 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: The other wild card I have is Colgate Coldgate. Sure, 268 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: do you want to play our first game? I'd love to. Yes, 269 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: all right, I guess I should introduce it since it's 270 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: my day, my games. So we've talked about currents before. 271 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: We've talked about was the Antarctic circumpolar currents. Also, by 272 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, we've mentioned that also an object of 273 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: a great news story in that scientists confirm that this 274 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: is much more powerful than originally thought. I love a 275 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: good originally thought. I love like giant squids are I 276 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: guess just squid. Giant squid are up to eighty five 277 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: percent bigger than scientists ever imagine they would stuff like that. 278 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: I love in the science world. So we're gonna dive 279 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: literally figuratively into currents tye, Okay, and we're going to 280 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: go through some Power five divisions and we have a 281 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: G five game after this. But we're going to go 282 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: into some divisions and we're gonna sort of determine and 283 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: have an opinion about which teams are currently riding the current, 284 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: which teams are moving in the right direction. Everything appears 285 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: to be moving the right way. They're in that antarctic 286 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: circumposar situation, so kind of like Michigan as we just described. Right. Yes, 287 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: so I don't have the Big ten East on my list. 288 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna go through some very specific divisions. 289 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: Let's start with the SEC East, Okay, and you could 290 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: it can be one team, it can be no teams, 291 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: it can be six teams, it can be however many 292 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: you'd like. But in the sec East, which teams do 293 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: you feel like are moving in the correct direction? Okay, 294 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: so this is sort of like a Malana theme. Yeah, 295 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: when it seems I can play the sound if you'd like. Well, 296 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: Malana theme was sort of like looking to the horizon 297 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: to see who needs to make a change. I would 298 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: like to more. I would like to highlight teams who 299 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: you know have their their rudders under them. Tie. All right, Well, 300 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: Georgia I think goes to that saying, but okay, let 301 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: me let me offer something else. George has been in 302 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: that direction and all season long. Sure, this isn't a 303 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: recent current that I want to I want a team 304 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: that is sudden, not suddenly, but I want a team 305 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: who is moving forward, whereas Georgia is just forward. Okay, 306 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: I want momentum. 307 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: Well, I think the most obvious one is probably Florida. 308 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: Sure and sure they might classify as a team that 309 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: has been moving forward, but it certainly hasn't been for 310 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: all that long. And what I'm encouraged by on the 311 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: Florida front is something that we mentioned on Sunday. They've 312 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: been forced to play pretty much all this year with 313 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: a backup quarterback. There's a really good chance they're going 314 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: to finish ten and two. That's an outstanding season for 315 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: Dan mullen. If you're a Florida fan and you see 316 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: a ten wins season, knowing some of the challenges they've had, 317 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: not just turns over Miami and Florida State huge wins 318 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: just within the context of Florida football at a bare minimum, 319 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: those are big wins at ten and two. Some of 320 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: the challenges they've had, both with injury and without injury. 321 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: You know, running the football has been a bit of 322 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 2: an issue, sometimes better than others. But I think the 323 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: extent to which they were able to rely on that 324 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: defense get enough out of their offense at times a 325 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 2: lot out of their offense on way to what appears 326 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: to be a ten win season. You can't help but 327 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: coming away feeling pretty encouraged about the future at Florida. 328 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: I think that's totally right. And good defense that has 329 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: been beat up at times in the backup quarterback are huge. 330 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: I was almost going to go Kentucky for trying to 331 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 1: follow up a historic year losing as much as they 332 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: did and then losing as much as they did this year, 333 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: especially at quarterback. The defense has still been pretty good upfront, 334 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: and they should make a bowl game. So that was 335 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: my initial direction, But I think I'm gonna go Tennessee. 336 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 1: Actually Tennessee the tennisance man. Yeah, let's talk about Tennessee. 337 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: And one final point on Kentucky. Yeah, again, something that 338 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: comes to mind just because we talked about it on 339 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: the Sunday Show, But we saw a lot of production 340 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:10,239 Speaker 1: at the running back position for Kentucky. Again, they've had 341 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: to shift their whole offense because of injury and the 342 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: whole Terry Wilson things sucks. Sucks there without him this year, 343 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: one of the good guys in college football. But the 344 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: fact that they're able to rely on two red shirt 345 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: freshmen to rush for a bunch of yardage, I think 346 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: is it's important. You know, they've been working to try 347 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: and build that program up from a depth perspective for 348 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: a while now, So the fact that they're kind of there, 349 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: even if it's only at one position, I think is 350 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: proof positive that something's going in a good direction. So 351 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: with Tennessee, they've won four or five. I think the 352 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: defense has been pretty good. They've gotten some big plays 353 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: from some big play guys on offense, They've had nice 354 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: moments through the air, and especially with that start and 355 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: losing the games. I won't say they've lost them in 356 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: freak ways, but they lost them last second to teams 357 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: that they really had no business losing to. And to 358 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: maintain focus and to have the second half of the 359 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: season that they've had again winning four or five Mississippi State, 360 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: South Carolina, UAB, Kentucky not terrible teams South Carolina maybe, 361 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: but finishing with Miszoo and Vandy and saying, yeah, they 362 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: have a chance to beat Miszoo on the road. That 363 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: would have been a weird thing to say at the 364 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: beginning of the season. So the Tennissance is real. We 365 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: talked about it. This is just reinforcing my own somewhat 366 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: okay prediction. So that's that's why I have and I 367 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: have MISSOO is just floating way outside of the current Okay, 368 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: Missoo just no offense. Since ol Miss, they've lost five 369 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: straight they and again should probably lose at home to 370 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: Tennessee Wild to say in August, all right, what is 371 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: our next division? The Big ten West? OH has the 372 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: current and should we just discuss the Illinois Fighting Lion. 373 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: I well, Minnesota I think is assumed. Right, Yes, they're 374 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: assumed because they've been doing it all year long. Nothing 375 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: is carrying them forward faster than usual. 376 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: I feel like even though Wisconsin started out like a 377 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 2: ball of fire and seem to have the wind in 378 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: their sales, even though there have been some unfortunate losses 379 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 2: there and maybe we're not talking about them in the 380 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: same manner, they are at least continuing to drift in 381 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 2: a good direction. 382 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: Correct. 383 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: Iowa has been drifting sort of in the doldrums for 384 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: a long time now, Like they're always the same team, reliable, 385 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 2: but always the same team. 386 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a case that they're a current 387 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: has started because of what they did this past but 388 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: we're looking for more moments. They always have conflicting currents. 389 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: Like the defense is pretty consistent this year. They've got 390 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: a pretty good quarterback that I think we like, but 391 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: they still can't really run the ball, so it's conflicting. 392 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: It's Doldermy Illinois is the answer here, Dan so Ty. 393 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: Illinois is the number one team in college football as 394 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: it relates to turnover margin. Turnovers, as we know, are 395 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: largely luck base which way the ball bounces on a fumble. 396 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: Somebody getting their hand up to tip an interception is skill. 397 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: But where that ball goes, who it bounces off of, 398 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: there's a lot of luck involved in turnovers. That luck. 399 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: Current has been pushing the S S Lion and I 400 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: pretty well. And I read to you right now, this 401 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: is how Illinois ends up in the Big Ten Championship game. 402 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: Give it to me. Illinois needs to win at Iowa. 403 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: This is I did not come up with this, by 404 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: the way, but this was from I think Jeremy Werner 405 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: from twenty four to seven. Illinois needs to win at Iowa. 406 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: Minnesota needs to lose at Northwestern. Okay. Wisconsin needs to 407 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: lose at home to Purdue. Illinois needs to win at 408 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: home against Northwestern. Okay, Wisconsin needs to win at Minnesota. 409 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: That's the Paul Bunyans X game. So I'm counting one 410 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: two of those five things seeming likely. But it only 411 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: takes five, only five things for the ALI and I 412 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: to end up in Indy. It's a current tie. Yeah, 413 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: that's a current Okay, do you want to go to 414 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: a new division because I have Nebraska floating along and 415 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: I don't just I don't want to talk about Nebraska Yeah, 416 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: let's go to the next next division, the ACC Coastal time. 417 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: Oh boy, who has that antarctic circmpolar under them? Uh, 418 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech's the obvious one right now. I think that's 419 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: a good answer. 420 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: Virginia Tech is seven and three very quietly. Yeah, they've 421 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: they've pulled it together after a bit of a rocky start, 422 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: and I remember it wasn't all that long ago. People 423 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: are talking about justin Fuentee buyout, Yeah, buy out, Yeah, 424 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: what happens. I don't think he's in any danger at 425 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 2: this point. The way he's pulled things together and just 426 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: the way they're playing. I think he's got the inside 427 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: track on winning the ACC Coastal, which would be a 428 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: really nice story in college football outside of Virginia Tech. 429 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: Though this is tough. 430 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 2: Uh you could argue that Virginia feels like they're going against. 431 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: The right now. Yeah, it's Virginia has been tough. Virginia 432 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: has been tough. Pitt still has an opportunity, still has 433 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: an opportunity, for sure. Yeah, Pitt. I never know what 434 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: to think about Pitt. Mm hmm. 435 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: Every week I feel like I want to be more 436 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: confident in Pitt. They do something to make me less confident. Okay, 437 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: so it's sort of a conflicting point. They've won three 438 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: or four, they finished a couple toss ups. Yeah, past 439 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: defense has been very strong. Offense has been the issue, 440 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: outside of, of course, our new guy, Shaki Jacques louis. 441 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: I like that, thank you, that's very good. Yeah, of 442 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: course there. 443 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: I think my problem with the coastal outside of Virginia Tech, 444 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: is there a couple teams that maybe have a light current. 445 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: H Okay, you know, like Pitt. Maybe sometimes Miami. I've 446 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 2: got reason to. 447 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: Be hopeful Miami might be my answer. I've got reason 448 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: to be hopeful about Miami. I've got reason to be 449 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: hopeful about North Carolina, even reason to be hopeful about Georgia Tech. 450 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: But are they fully being pushed by no entum of 451 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: quality results? No, that's my problem with this, right. I 452 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: think my answer is probably Miami. But Virginia Tech's right there, 453 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: Pitt is too much of a huge question mark on offense. 454 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: Miami's won four or five against you know, not insignificant 455 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: or significant opponents, Virginia Pitt, Louisville, Florida State. They've lost 456 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: to Georgia Tech. I just what what They've been generating 457 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: big plays on the ground. They've had some turnover luck, 458 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: but the defense has been strong in terms of who 459 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 1: I think i'd like based on their recent results on 460 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: a neutral field. Tonight, call up Adam Amin, get his 461 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: whole crew together. Let's make something happen. Let's everybody meet 462 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: in Charlotte and figure out how to play this game 463 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: as tournament. I think it's Miami. To me, it's Miami 464 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: right now. I think they have the momentum. Duke is floating. 465 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: Duke is floating nowhere near the current. Their offense has 466 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: been an abject disaster, and they we talk about Illinois, 467 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: Duke is dead last among Power five teams in turnovers lost. 468 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: Not helpful. What is the baseball term when like a 469 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: pitcher hits a home run helping his own cause? Yeah, 470 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: I gotta help yourself. Yeah, Duke is not helping their 471 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: own casts with that stat the PAC twelve South? Wow? Uh? 472 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 2: Who was this question? Sponsored by Clay Hilton? 473 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: Hey, before we go on, let's talk about Clay Heilton 474 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: in the job. He's done here Now. The Clay Helton's 475 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: are built in. I was just gonna go through an 476 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: ad read for Clay Hilton built in a German blade factory. Right, 477 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: So the PAC twelve South in terms of currents, who 478 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: is riding high? Right? Right? 479 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 2: Well, Utah's Utah's riding high. We assume that right. 480 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: Outside USC, Ucla has had spurts. We allowed to say 481 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: that on the show, Sure, okay. 482 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: But I don't know if i'd say the writing high. 483 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: Arizona State just lost to Oregon State. They're certainly not 484 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: riding high now. Arizona has been kind of a nightmare all. 485 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: Year, floating nowhere near the circle. Yeah, and Colorado is 486 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: in transition. Yeah, I don't think there's any momentum to 487 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: speak of there. I like the higher. 488 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: I think ultimately they'll get there, But for the time being, 489 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: outside of Utah, the only answer here could possibly be USC. 490 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, USC is one four or five. But 491 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: they should have lost to Colorado and they got blown 492 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: out by Oregon, and so it's hard to feel super confident, 493 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: even with a nice showing against Cal. I have this 494 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: as just low tide. I don't you know. I think 495 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: it's a dearth of aqua momentum. Yeah, and Arizona's floating. 496 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: You fire your defensive coordinator and you finish, by the way, 497 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: with road game rivalry, Territorial Cup, and Utah, it's me 498 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: a rough finish. It's tough. Yeah, let's just talk Texas teams, 499 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: teams in the state of Texas that play in the 500 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: Big Twelve, because there's no division to specifically look at, Okay, 501 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: so that means, as I pull it up here, we're 502 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: talking about Baylor. Yeah, the Texas Longhorns, TCU, and Texas Tech. Yes, 503 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: so four teams. 504 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: Baylor I think is that has been going in a 505 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: good direction all year. Yes, the loss against Oklahoma was 506 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: a bit of a setback, but we'll always have the 507 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: first half. 508 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: Won't we We will, And even Baylor, I think Bear 509 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: fans would be pretty quick to tell you they're not 510 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: feeling like as a complete team. And as results go 511 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: that they're moving, they're skimming atop the water. They're winning 512 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,120 Speaker 1: a lot more often than not. But recently with TCU 513 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: with who do they have before West Virginia, that was 514 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: not a particular current inspiring game. So even that answer 515 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: is not fully accurate. You can't say Texas with the 516 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: straight face here now you cannot. It's been a rough 517 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: year for Texas, to say the absolute very least. Their 518 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: secondary has been a disaster. They've had a lot of injuries, 519 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: They've got four losses, So Texas isn't the answer here, TCU. 520 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: You could maybe make a case for TCU talk frogs, ty. 521 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: I don't really want to. 522 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: But if you insist, yeah, first, before we talk frogs, 523 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: where do we stand in Texas Tech? 524 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's the same thing when who did you 525 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: bring up Colorado that it's a transitionary year for Texas Tech. 526 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: I've been impressed with the Red Riders, and if we 527 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: want to talk Tech we can. It's I think it's 528 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: between TCU and Texas Tech. 529 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: I think so too. What I what i'd point to 530 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: with Tech? And I'm you know, I got the stats 531 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: in front of me here. There aren't any great eye 532 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: popping stats. Obviously, this is a team that's got a 533 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: bunch of losses six losses, four and six right now 534 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: at time of recording. But it does feel like this 535 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: is a team that has played hard every game and 536 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: after coaching change, after losing their quarterback very early on, 537 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: clearly the results have not been there. But took TCU 538 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: to the gun this past weekend lost to Kansas, but 539 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: that was closed. They were within ten at Iowa State, 540 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: within three against Baylor, got destroyed by Oklahoma. That wasn't 541 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: very pretty. But point here is that they've been in 542 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: a lot of games and it's been a rough go, 543 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: but they've maintained that intensity and I like seeing that. 544 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: I think it's Frogs. So they beat a talented offense 545 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: in tech. You beat Texas by ten, I don't know 546 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: how you don't, even even with this year's Texas version. 547 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: You got it. That has to be a notch. Take 548 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: Baylor to overtime a top fifteen team nine to all. 549 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: I think at the end of regulation, I think it's 550 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: Frogs who are riding a bit of an interesting current. 551 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: Not a powerful one, but an interesting one. I'm very 552 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: interested in the whole Max dugg In, yeah thing freshman. 553 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: He's a freshman. If he can continue. 554 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: To improve, that would go a long way towards making 555 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: me feel more confident in TCU, because quarterback has been 556 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: a bit of an issue for them the last couple 557 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: of seasons now, so it's good to see he's getting 558 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: reps as a freshmen. Obviously needs to clean things up 559 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: a bit, but you know, if they have truly something there, 560 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: that would be very encouraging moving. 561 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: Forward, the reps seem invaluable. Yeah yeah, and he's got 562 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna have some big opportunities now down the stretch. 563 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: You know, there's tc You finished with TCU finishes well. 564 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: This week, they're on the road at Oklahoma, right, okay, 565 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: which would be a good experience for a freshman quarterback. And 566 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: then they close out the year at home against West Virginia, 567 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: which is a bowl playan I believe for them if 568 00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: they lose to Oklahoma. 569 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, so they have something to play 570 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: for for sure. 571 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: Yes, agree, Okay, so that was a current affair. Play 572 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: the sound one more time, all right, Dan, before we 573 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: go any further. During Thanksgiving week, FYI, my bookie is 574 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: offering a risk free bet on the Bears Lions game. 575 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: Oh just pick a team against the spread for up 576 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: to two hundred and fifty bucks. If you win, great, 577 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: congrats you've got extra holiday spending money. If you lose, well, 578 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: congrats as well. My book's going to give you all 579 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: your money back. It's a no brainer. You literally cannot lose. 580 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: It's no risk. 581 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: All gravy doesn't matter whether you're an experienced player, a 582 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: first time customer, my book. He welcomes all to come 583 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: and play. So quit waiting around and sign up today. 584 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: All I gotta do is walk on to MyBookie dot ag, 585 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: make your first deposit with the promo code solid and 586 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: my book He's going to match your deposit dollar for 587 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: dollar to jumpstart bank roll. And that's on top of 588 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: the risk free bet. Let me repeat guaranteed deposit match, 589 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: risk free bet on Thanksgiving only. So if you're a 590 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: true football fan, you do not want to let this 591 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: opportunity pass you by. You simply cannot lose. Make sure 592 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: you do your part to support your team this season. 593 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: Hop on the gravy train and get in on the 594 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: action with my bookie. You play, you win, you get paid. 595 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: There is a scene in I'm Gonna be honest. It's 596 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: one of my all time favorite movies, The Social Network. Tie. 597 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: You love that movie, don't you. I love The Social 598 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: Network so much. When I do work, when I'm editing scripts, 599 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: when I'm studying, I will listen to the Social Network soundtrack. 600 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: It is outstanding. And obviously there was a scene in 601 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: the Social Network that was on water with the Winkle 602 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: VII rowing in that crew race the Henley on Thames. 603 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that scene. I do no, no, no, 604 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: no no. Yeah. So the name of this game that 605 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: we're about to play, we're gonna we're gonna take a 606 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: look at I think g five divisional races right now, 607 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: because they're all pretty wide open. Wide is maybe too extreme, 608 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: but they're all fairly open. So the name of this 609 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: game is Regatta, win your division first. 610 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: High love that sound clip maybe my favorite that we've 611 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: played all year, next to the spicy and I am. 612 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: Auana, next to the ones that you've selected. Yes, that's right, 613 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: next to the ones you've selected. Okay, let's start with 614 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: the American because we've got the East with Cincinnati up 615 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: two games. They have to lose to both Temple and Memphis, 616 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: and Temple needs to beat Yukon as well for Temple 617 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: to take the division. Now, Cincinnati has taken a step 618 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: back defensively against the past. The offense is only okay, 619 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: but they're surviving. They're winning their clunkers like we saw 620 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: last week, so Cincinnati looks to be in a pretty 621 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: good position. We also mentioned Temple with Rod Kerry is 622 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: sort of they are Northern Illinois. I like Anthony russo fine, 623 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: some accuracy issues, give me the ball away a little bit. 624 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: They were murdered by UCF and SMU. They've got an identity, 625 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: they have an identity, they are They field a really 626 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: strong defense. Yes, when they're not being murdered. In the 627 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: West three way tie atop the West, Memphis, SMU, Smooth, 628 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: and Navy. Memphis has the breaker because they've beaten both 629 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: SMU and Navy. Obviously the Tiger offense Norvell has been terrific. 630 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: Okay enough on defense, they did lose to Temple, and 631 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: SMU and Navy play on Saturday. Yes, so this is 632 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: getting sorted out as we speak. So that's that's not 633 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: the worst thing ever. And it should be noted that 634 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: Tulsa e c U and I'm on the record, I 635 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: like where ECU is going. I like where they're going, 636 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: and Yukon have all been a nightmare and are winless 637 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: in the conference, so should be noted. Any thoughts about 638 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: the American I'm. 639 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 2: Very curious to see benefits Cincinnati playing two weeks on 640 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 2: the twenty ninth. Right now, I'm seeing a projected margin 641 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: of Memphis by about twelve oh, okay, which seems a 642 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: little steep. 643 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: To me, Conference USA, it's looking like it's going to 644 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: be Marshall against the winner of Louisiana Tech and uab 645 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: La Tech. Skip Holt's future Notre Dame coach. Right, that's mean, 646 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. These neither one of those teams are terrific, 647 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: but that's okay. It should also be noted that ODU, 648 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: Old Dominion and UTAP are disasters, and congratulations to Rice 649 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: for getting off the disaster board this past week. That 650 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: is correct. There's your Conference USA check in the Mountain 651 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: West West will be decided between San Diego State and Hawaii. 652 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: Huge game this weekend for the division, and I just 653 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: if you're interested. Hawaii is actually running the ball a 654 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: lot better than they throw the ball and going up 655 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: against the San Diego State run defense that's excellent and 656 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: a San Diego State offense that they get eleven guys 657 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: out there. Tie, that's nice a thing I can say 658 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: about the San Diego State offense. And in the Mountain 659 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: Division Tie Boise is at Utah State this weekend and 660 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: that should decide things for the Mountain Well. Utah State 661 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: has lost a lot of non conference games, but doing 662 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: pretty well still, even though their offense is offense has 663 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: taken a pretty gigantic leap back with the absence of 664 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: Matt Wells and his staff, but good enough. So that 665 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: should be fun. Especially with how beat up Boise is 666 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: at quarterback. That's should be pretty competitive. 667 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: They're starting like their fifteenth string, now, aren't they something. 668 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: That they are? Jalen Henderson did a nice job this 669 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: past weekend, and UNLV and New Mexico are both disasters 670 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: in the Mirrable West. I think I can I can 671 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: say that into mid to late November. The mac Miami, Ohio, 672 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: Western Michigan is what we're looking at, and I should 673 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: also because I like to pat myself in the back 674 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: because I'm so rarely correct. I brought up Levonte Bellamy, 675 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: I think on our Dude watch List episode the Western 676 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: Michigan running back, who I said, reminded me a little 677 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: bit of Mi Michael James having an outstanding year for 678 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: Western Michigan. So nice. I just, you know, want to 679 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: shout that kind of thing out when it's appropriate. Sun Belt, Oh, So, 680 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: app State has taken a little bit of a step 681 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: back on defense, but they still have Zach Thomas, who's 682 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: very good. They can't lose to Troy if it wants 683 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: to win the sun Belt East, and on the other 684 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: side Louisiana Louisiana Lafayette whichever you prefer, looking good, but 685 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: also has Troy and Louisiana Monroe, who are both okay. 686 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts about the sun Belt, the 687 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: Mountain West, or the mac My I would say most 688 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: intense thought. Oh, I'm sitting down now, please do I 689 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: love app State? Okay? 690 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 2: And I feel guilty because, for I don't know, at 691 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: least the last five years, I have made fun of 692 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 2: you for liking app State as much as you have. 693 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 2: And it is very apparent from watching them and paying 694 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: more attention to the Mountaineers this season that this is 695 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 2: a legit football program. 696 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: They're very good. 697 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 2: Lost their coach, bringing a new guy, Eli Drinkwitz. They 698 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 2: have been outstanding. They have continued that momentum, and it 699 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 2: just it's exciting to see them doing as well as 700 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 2: they as they have this season. It's clearly a very 701 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 2: good football program. 702 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: They've beaten three separate Carolinas, North, South, and Coastal. Yeah, 703 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: he's pretty good. I mean Coastal Carolina is not pretty good, 704 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: but to beat North and South Carolina is nothing unusual. 705 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: I would say. The only thing with app State is 706 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: this should be a good year with how the program 707 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: was left by Scott Saderfield, and I know Eli Drinkwitz 708 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: should get credit for how well he has stewarded the 709 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: program in year zero, year one, whatever. I'm interested to 710 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: see if he is going to stay at app State 711 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: as long, if he is able to keep this going, 712 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: because inevitably there will be jobs along that eastern seaboard. 713 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: He's coached everywhere, though he's coached in the South. He 714 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: was at Boise, he's at NC State, so I think 715 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: he could be a name, and I don't know if 716 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: he will stay as long as at app State if 717 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: he continues this level of success. Well, they've just been 718 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: very good. 719 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 2: They've been having very good They've beaten the teams in 720 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 2: front of them, with the exception of course that Georgia's 721 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 2: Southern game, right, which is a matchup that has posed 722 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 2: some challenges for them in the past here in recent memory, 723 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 2: but by and large, still a really solid football program. 724 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 2: Beat South Carolina two weeks ago on the road. That's 725 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 2: not something that's easy to do. And it teems like 726 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 2: there are far far more well known programs that are 727 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: unable to do that. 728 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good year to get South Carolina. I 729 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: would absolutely, But yeah, they have a couple of nice wins, 730 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: the win over Louisiana and the at least the win 731 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: over North Carolina. To me, those are those are significant 732 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: South Carolina. Yes, there are. There are elements of the 733 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: offense that have been impressive, but weird year for the 734 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: game Cocks otherwise. I mean, I don't know if you 735 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: have any strong FBS independence thoughts. I'm positive UMass isn't good. No, 736 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: they're terrible. It's been a down year for army. It's 737 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: been up and down. I guess suppose for for liberty 738 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: BYU started really encouraging to beat Tennessee and USC. Notre 739 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: Dame obviously the class of the independence New Mexico status 740 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: had a rough go. I don't know if you have 741 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: strong thoughts there. 742 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 2: No, My thoughts are pretty confined to Notre Dame. But 743 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to bore people with those. 744 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: Now, hold on, let's do a little Notre Dame check in. 745 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 1: Oh boy, let's do a little Irish check in. Okay, 746 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 1: So what do you want to know? Have they improved 747 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: over the course of the season. Are there position groups 748 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: that you're encouraged by. Is there something that you field 749 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: dramatically is wrong with this team that needs to be 750 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: addressed post haste. What are your most dramatic thoughts about 751 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. It's been a pretty good stretch for them recently, 752 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: It's been a pretty good stretch for them. I would say, 753 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: on the whole, if they finished ten and two, look, 754 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good year. And I think it would 755 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: be quite frankly unrealistic to expect that they would be 756 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: twelve and zero. Again, I just went over Virginia Tech. 757 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: Looks better. It looks better. But I'll go back to 758 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: what I said at the beginning of the year. And 759 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, we can cut Stanford out now because Stanford 760 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: really isn't where Stanford has been in recent memory. But 761 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: I said at the start of the year that I 762 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 1: thought the season was going to run through three games, 763 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: and that was going to be game at Athens, game 764 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,720 Speaker 1: in ann Arbor, and too Palo Alto, which will strike 765 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: from the record here. 766 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 2: But I wasn't wrong about that. This wasn't any advanced prognostication. 767 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 2: Everyone was kind of in the same boat when it 768 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 2: came to Notre Dame Ian Book. Ian Book, to me, 769 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 2: has been for the most part solid. I think what 770 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 2: I find discouraging about ian Book this year has been 771 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 2: the limitations in his game. Being so it's mostly been 772 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 2: on his shoulder to try and move this offense forward. 773 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,720 Speaker 2: He hasn't had that complimentary running game. We have seen 774 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 2: the limitations. 775 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: They are there. 776 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 2: You know that there are limitations with the ian books game. 777 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 2: Good quarterback obviously can get it done with both the 778 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 2: arm and the legs. But there are limitations in his game, 779 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 2: and so that part I think has been disappointing. I 780 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 2: was hoping for more of a step forward. Can you 781 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 2: love him for who he is instead of who he 782 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 2: Isn't sure? 783 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: Okay? Sure? 784 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 2: I mean he's a gritty competitor, and Notre Dame is 785 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 2: still better off with him, I think than they are 786 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 2: without him. For as fun as it is to think 787 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 2: about Phil djer Kovic his wonky delivery, I still think 788 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 2: ian Book is the best. What is wonky about his delivery? 789 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: Oh? Go on YouTube? Is he like Rick Anghel? It's 790 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: more like young Young Kim. I'll say, Oh, he's side 791 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: arms kind of whoa. Just call on YouTube and find it. 792 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: While we're while we're not a shot putty thing though, 793 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: it's not no no, no, no no, it's not It's not 794 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 1: a Bryant Moones. 795 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 2: It's it's more of a young young Kim. Go on 796 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 2: YouTube and check it out. 797 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 1: Nowhere else can you get these types of This is 798 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: hard hitting and cutting of analysis. 799 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 2: So the book thing to me has been up and down, 800 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: but you know, I'm okay with it by now. I've 801 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 2: accepted it. The running game, I was hoping that there 802 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 2: would be more of a leap forward in the running 803 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 2: game that has not been there. 804 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,439 Speaker 1: So that picture concern as as to why Notre Dame 805 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: is squarely not able to find and develop quarterbacks like 806 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: other powers are able to. 807 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 2: That that is the big picture concern. So what yeah, 808 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 2: what that is the concern. 809 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: There should be a guy who is willing to go 810 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: to Notre Dame and a coach who is able to 811 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: develop him because I think, right second year Kaiser, there's 812 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who are like, all right, but 813 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: there's nobody at Notre Dame. Don't. I don't know who 814 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: the last dude, like capital D dude is at quarterback 815 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. To you, you know even is it 816 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,720 Speaker 1: Jimmy Clausen putting up big numbers on an only okay team. 817 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: I don't know who it is. Maybe Kaiser, I don't know. 818 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: It's a hardiser. It's a hard question. It's a hard question. 819 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: Like if you look through every position group over the 820 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: last ten years, Let's say like Notre Dame can't find 821 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: a Tanner Morgan who is like lighter recruited but can 822 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: develop into something pretty impressive. 823 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 2: First off, it's been rare that they've had a starter 824 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 2: for multiple seasons, consecutive seasons, and secondly, doesn't feel like 825 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 2: any of them have developed. But really, seriously, dan, across 826 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 2: the board running back, there have been flashes of brilliance. 827 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 2: They've had some good running backs. 828 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: Definitely. 829 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 2: Receiver has been a huge success story, as has tight end. 830 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 2: They've had some really high level talent offensive line. Offensive 831 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 2: line has been a huge success story. Right defensive line, linebacker, safety, 832 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 2: and secondary getting better? 833 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: It got better. Did you freak out if you had 834 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: a Keytenslova situation? What I freak out? We have a 835 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: really prompt, like in a good way, like, wow, we 836 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: have a really promising true freshman quarterback who is showing 837 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: out and putting up big numbers going downfield and looks confident. 838 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 2: I wouldn't freak out. I would, unfortunately, be very insecure 839 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 2: about that. 840 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: Huge waves for the other shoe to drop. I'd be 841 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: very insecure. 842 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 2: About that situation. It's not all that dissimilar from what 843 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 2: we saw with the Shan Kaiser. Sean Kaiser comes in 844 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 2: after his remember Zaia broke his foot or whatever it 845 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 2: was on the road of Virginia. Notre Dame's basically going 846 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 2: to lose that game if not for the Shaun Kais 847 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 2: are coming in and hooking up with Will Fuller, and 848 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 2: he continued that momentum through the season. Notre Dame had 849 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 2: an incredible year. 850 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: Kaiser. 851 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 2: I maybe got a little better than next year, but 852 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 2: it wasn't so much so that he was a consensus 853 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 2: first round NFL talent. That's what people were saying when 854 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 2: he came in, big kid, big arm, good decision maker. 855 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 2: It just didn't materialize. So unfortunately, if Notre Dame had 856 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 2: the Keaton Slova situation, I don't think I'd be very 857 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 2: confident that it's something sustainable from year one to year two. 858 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: Would you be more excited with current or even recent 859 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the state of Indiana. Would you be more 860 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: excited to have Peyton Ramsey as your quarterback? No? Would 861 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: you be more excited to have like David blough No 862 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: from Perdue than he and Book? Okay, No, I'm trying 863 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: to get a sense. 864 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 2: I think I think Ian Book's a very good college quarterback. Okay, 865 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 2: he's a very good college quarterback. And it's around that 866 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 2: time of year when people start looking forward and I've 867 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 2: seen a couple and I get it. I get that 868 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 2: people have to say it. But when I read an 869 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 2: article and people say Ian Book will probably be back 870 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 2: for his senior year, he ain't going pro. This is 871 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 2: not a pro talent, all right. He is going pro 872 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 2: someday in something other than sports, and that's fine. But 873 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 2: Ian Book will be. 874 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: Back for his final season. Can I give you two 875 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: more names? Please? Rock Party, I would love Rockberty. Oh, 876 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel. No, I'll still take Ian Book. WHOA, I 877 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: don't know about that. I think I'd probably take Dylan Gabriel. 878 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: I feel like books. Book's tougher. He's bigger. He is 879 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: not much bigger, but just about everybody else is bigger. 880 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: He may have a stronger arm than Dylan Gabriel too. Okay, 881 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 1: can we do the this week seefaring School of the Week. 882 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: I would love to. Okay, save the music, my guy, 883 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 1: I got to read it. You got the music ready. 884 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: Let's shine a spotlight on the Barry Vikings hit the 885 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: music nine and one in the Southern Athletic Association the 886 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 1: SAA TIE SAH SAH located in Rome, Georgie, about seventy 887 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: two miles northwest of Atlanta, Rome, Georgia. I should mention 888 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: the hometown of one Will must Champ and Dan Reeves, 889 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 1: who is success adjacent. There's a better way to describe 890 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: Dan Reeves's career. John Pemberton, inventor of Coca Cola and 891 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: Navy Admiral John H. Towers. Maybe Admiral I'm tying it 892 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: all back. He flew the Navy's first sea plane, A 893 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 1: Curtis A one. Wow. Navy Admiral John H. Towers. The 894 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 1: Berry College campus TIE has hosted film projects including Remember 895 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: the Titans, Wow, and Sweet Home Alabama Suck at Alabama. 896 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: You could not have a film location for a movie 897 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: with your states title in it the way that Georgia could, 898 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: I assume because of tax breaks that's right. The Barry 899 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: Vikings are nine and one. They lost last year in 900 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: the second round of the D three playoffs to eventual 901 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: D three champion Mary Hardin Baylor, which, yes, is related 902 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: to Baylor. It was the women's college that eventually became 903 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: co ed, so it's still a small college, but the 904 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 1: co ed version then I think became Baylor. I got 905 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 1: it somewhat right there. They're only lost this year is 906 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 1: to Birmingham Southern Mason Kinsey, terrific receiver for the Barry Vikings. 907 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 1: They are second in scoring in the SAA thanks to 908 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: also a dominant rushing attack, and they lead the SAH 909 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,720 Speaker 1: in takeaways. So your bearing Vikings are the solid, verbal 910 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 1: and safe Farings. I love it, Dan. Yeah, that's a 911 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: little spotlight for your awesome. Is that all we got? 912 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: That's all I have, Tai. That is I am plumb 913 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: out of college football talking points. Just a relaxing to 914 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: his cruise this week. Huh was it? 915 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 2: Right until the point we started talking TCU and Notre Dame. 916 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,760 Speaker 2: I was really enjoying myself. 917 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: Thank you. Do you think you would last on a 918 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 1: deadliest catch type situation? Last? I would if you were 919 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 1: assigned a very specific role, and you're like, all you 920 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: have to do is yank on this rope for this 921 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: to happen. But you got to be out there with 922 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 1: us for I don't know how long they're out there, weeks, days, 923 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 1: whatever it is. Do you think mentally and physically you 924 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 1: could hold up. I could probably hold up mentally, I 925 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: don't know about physically. Oh other way for me. Yeah, 926 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: By the way, and when I say other way, I 927 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,800 Speaker 1: mean both mentally and physically, I'm out. That seems very difficult. 928 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: It seems extraordinarily difficult. I'm always wondering how much inside 929 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,439 Speaker 1: time they get because they have a lot of outside time. 930 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 2: Definitely more than it looks on the show. Right, Oh that. 931 00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 1: I watch that and I think about how long I 932 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: could last doing it, and I think max day and 933 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,359 Speaker 1: a half, two days. Really you think you could make 934 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: it a full week out there? Five days? Oh? Man? 935 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 1: Nine days. It's the lack of sleep, all the cracks. Well, 936 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: I could deal with lack of sleep, but really, man, 937 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I would probably be swept away into 938 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 1: the bearing sea. You'd be like, well you would you 939 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 1: would come up at the end of an episode. This 940 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,280 Speaker 1: episode is dedicated to title Fred. Yeah, the sea has them, 941 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 1: the sea has me. 942 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 2: Se would probably throw me around pretty good. It's a 943 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 2: rough Yeah. 944 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: I could not last. I just I couldn't. 945 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 2: I think I'd probably die of fear dealing with some 946 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: of the waves out there. 947 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: That would kill me. I would make I think for 948 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 1: a good grizzled veteran. 949 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you could probably grow a really good dead 950 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 2: is catch beard like George Clooney in Perfect Storm Maze. 951 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think I can knew that. I don't 952 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 1: know enough coverage upper lip now, but I think i'd 953 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: be very good weaving tails in a bar near the 954 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: ocean after the fact. 955 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 2: Just like that storyteller capacity. You'd be the pr guy. 956 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:19,879 Speaker 2: That's that's right. 957 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 1: I would like oh ninety two, oh my god, lucky 958 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: to be here. Yeah, I'd be very good at that. 959 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: All right, that's our show. 960 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 2: Well, thank you Verballers for setting sail. As we've reached 961 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 2: doc here on the tues cruise. We'll be back on 962 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 2: Thursday previewing. 963 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 1: All the action before us a couple games of note, 964 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 1: a couple other games with weird lines that we're going 965 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: to discuss this coming week. 966 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 2: We're excited to preview the games with you. 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