WEBVTT - Tentacle Technology

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Forward Thinking. Hello, and welcome to Forward Thinking, the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>that looks at the feature and says I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>be under the sea. I'm Lauren bog Obama, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Joe McCormick. And our regular host Jonathan Strickland is not

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<v Speaker 1>with us this week. He is at CS covering technology technologies.

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<v Speaker 1>We are also going to talk about some terrific tentacle

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<v Speaker 1>technologies today. Yes, you heard Lauren right, We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about tentacle technology today. Yeah. So we hope

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<v Speaker 1>that you like BioMedics podcasts real well, because those are

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<v Speaker 1>basically our favorite things, I think, especially when Jonathan is

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<v Speaker 1>not in office to monitor us. Yeah, if you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been around for previous podcast episodes when Jonathan wasn't here,

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<v Speaker 1>we did I think bees and some other kind of bugs. Ants. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we did ants with Jonathan. Spiders, might have

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<v Speaker 1>done spiders without him. We did bugs ones for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, and and we kind of are running out

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<v Speaker 1>of bugs to talk about, which is weird because there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's trillions of them there are there are Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>also did some some cockroach stuff a couple episodes ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Yeah, so, so we decided to move on

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<v Speaker 1>to something else kind of creepy, and the tentacles and

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<v Speaker 1>or arms would be a really good route. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you picture the robots of the future, they've got

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<v Speaker 1>to have tentacles, right, They've got to have them, because

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<v Speaker 1>tentacles are really the best kind of appendage. They're awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Humans would be better if we had them. I think

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<v Speaker 1>bears would be marginally improved with tentacles. They're pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>the best. They wouldn't be improved for my personal use,

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<v Speaker 1>I would prefer bears to not have tentacles, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure bears would love to have them. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and speak for bears definitively. I'm a supporter

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<v Speaker 1>of the Second Amendment, the right to bear tentacles. Oh goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>my gracious, I walked into that one so hard. Hold

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<v Speaker 1>on a second, what was that joke I just made? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm playing on a little vocab disclaimer we need to make,

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<v Speaker 1>which is tentacles versus arms? Yes, which I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned a second ago. But um, alright, So so octopi

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<v Speaker 1>or octopuses, whichever you prefer. I think it's octopuses. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to sound like a jerk. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>never stopped us before here on forward thinking. Um, So,

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<v Speaker 1>so octopuses have arms. Yeah, octopuses have eight arms. These

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<v Speaker 1>are eight non retractable arms, and that's all they got,

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<v Speaker 1>just the arms. Squid and cuttlefish, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>they have those eight arms, those eight non retractable arms

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<v Speaker 1>going out, but they've also got two longer appendages that

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<v Speaker 1>are technically tentacles tentacles. These are what a scientist would

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<v Speaker 1>call a tentacle. It's what we can call tentacles as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean really anyone can. But yes, the the official

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<v Speaker 1>biological definition um is tentacles. And that's because they're a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different. Um. Tentacles tend to end in in

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<v Speaker 1>what's term it's it's a club. Yeah, it's a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of leaf shaped swelling out at the end of the tentacle.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's called a club. And the tentacles, i

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<v Speaker 1>think typically are used more often specifically for catching prey,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas the arms of a squid or an octopus they

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<v Speaker 1>can grab things, they can catch prey, but they can

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<v Speaker 1>also be used for swimming and walking around and clinging

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<v Speaker 1>to surfaces and picking things up there. They're more all purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>right right. And also, arms are usually covered entirely in

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<v Speaker 1>uh suckers or section cups on the undersides, yet on

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<v Speaker 1>the underside is correct, whereas tentacles will only have those

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<v Speaker 1>section cups on that club end. Yes, arms also may

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<v Speaker 1>have a siri or or palps, which are these uh

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<v Speaker 1>kind of kind of worm like things that come off

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<v Speaker 1>of them in order to do stuff that sound beautiful nature, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>And arms have one more feature. They sometimes will have hooks,

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<v Speaker 1>which are a kind of modified suction cup, which is

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<v Speaker 1>for hooking. I suppose, yeah, I think some species have

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<v Speaker 1>well hooks, they're they're just hooks. That's cool. I I

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<v Speaker 1>like I like hooks. I like captain hook. I like pirates.

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<v Speaker 1>Both arms and tentacles are what you would call a

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<v Speaker 1>muscular hydrostat which is a muscle that doesn't need to

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<v Speaker 1>move a bone. It does its work all on its own.

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<v Speaker 1>So it would be a muscle kind of like your

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<v Speaker 1>tongue or like an elephant's trunk. And so there is

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<v Speaker 1>a scientific distinction between arms and tentacles in a creature

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<v Speaker 1>like a squid. But we're going to kind of go

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<v Speaker 1>with the common usage today where to the average person,

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<v Speaker 1>those eight things on an octopus, they're all tentacles. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well we'll we'll refer to them as tentacles. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we we respect the biological difference, but tentacles is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot funnier to say. It is a funnier word. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into some of these biomemetics, because, as we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen on this podcast many times before, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>scientists and engineers love to look to nature to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out draw inspiration. Yeah right, how to build their robots

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<v Speaker 1>or their tiny nano machines or create new materials. Is

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<v Speaker 1>just there's a lot of research that's already gone into nature,

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<v Speaker 1>that's been done by evolution. Let's just steal their work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, just just plagiarize all of that and send

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<v Speaker 1>it into space. What, yes, tentacle robots in space. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're talking about tentacle limbs to go on robots

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<v Speaker 1>for grasping, Yes, tell me about it. Well, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the classic robot problems that we talked about a lot

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<v Speaker 1>on this show is is flexibility, um and and that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, most robot arms are are really rigid and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of unforgiving. You don't want to put a baby

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<v Speaker 1>next to it. Um, they're bad at at dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>different kinds of materials and especially with unknown material reels.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really tough to to teach a robot how to

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<v Speaker 1>pick something up when it's never seen that thing before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it might not know how delicate it is. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are all these different variables that go into the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of unconscious calculations your body does when you pick

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<v Speaker 1>up a foreign object. Sure, sure it sounds really simple,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you go to pick up a cup, your

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<v Speaker 1>your fingers are giving you a lot of feedback about

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<v Speaker 1>how squishable that cup is and how heavy it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and what you need to do there for in order

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<v Speaker 1>to get a good grip on it and not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>spill its contents all over yourself. Okay, so uh, tentacles

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<v Speaker 1>better at doing this than rigid arms, really, yes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know they can conform to an object and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of grip it as tightly as they need to

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<v Speaker 1>without hope, hopefully without you know, hulking and just just

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<v Speaker 1>spilling everything everywhere. Um. I assume that people I love

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<v Speaker 1>the cup metaphor, but there the cup example. But I

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<v Speaker 1>assume that robots pick up things other than cups pretty

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<v Speaker 1>frequently anyway. Um, some researchers and roboticists like Ian Walker

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<v Speaker 1>of Clemson University are working on creating creepy, wonderful robotic tentacles.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and yes, inspired by stuff like octopus arms and

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<v Speaker 1>elephant trunks and giraffe tongues and climbing vines and all

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<v Speaker 1>that good kind of stuff. Um, they they have been

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<v Speaker 1>building these robotic arms that are capable of twisting around

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<v Speaker 1>and grasping objects of varying shapes and materials, like, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>the oct arm Lauren O C T A r M

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<v Speaker 1>oct arm. I like the sound of that. It's pretty great. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pneumatic robot arm. And it came out of

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<v Speaker 1>a DARPA funded project from two thousand three to two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven. And since Jonathan is not here, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and say it DARPA. That's the US Defense

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<v Speaker 1>Advanced Research Projects Agency. Why I've never heard of that before.

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<v Speaker 1>We shall call it DARPA from now on. And according

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<v Speaker 1>to Ian Walker via space dot Com, this thing, this,

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<v Speaker 1>this arm can grab and stack cones of varying sizes,

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<v Speaker 1>explore tunnel like environments, and manipulate objects it had never

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<v Speaker 1>encountered before while submerged in water. Um, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if I can do all of those things every day.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's so, that's pretty rap. I can do almost

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<v Speaker 1>nothing while submerged in water because I never figured out

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<v Speaker 1>how to open my eyes underwater. It's it's rough. It stings, man. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>goggles are great, it's this new technology we might we

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<v Speaker 1>could talk about later. Um. But but so robots like

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<v Speaker 1>this aren't even expensive to build, but they are tricky

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<v Speaker 1>to program, is the only probably, Yeah, I can see

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<v Speaker 1>how that would be. Yeah. Um, but there are other

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<v Speaker 1>octopus inspired robot arms. Yeah yeah, well not just octopus,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess all kinds of tentacle, cephalopod arm whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you call these grasping, swiggly things. One of them, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a recent one I just read about today was the

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<v Speaker 1>m I T Soft Rubber Robot Arms. So at m

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<v Speaker 1>I T s c Sale, that's the Computer Science and

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<v Speaker 1>Artificial Intelligence Lab under the direction of daniellow Rouse. And

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<v Speaker 1>her name should be familiar to you if you've listened

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<v Speaker 1>to this podcast for a while, because I keep seeing

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<v Speaker 1>her associated with weird awesome stuff that comes up here. Uh. So,

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<v Speaker 1>that lab has turned out some really cool robots, and

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<v Speaker 1>a recent one which I read about in an M

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<v Speaker 1>I T press release from septemb is a soft rubber

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<v Speaker 1>robotic arm that can move around by sort of writhing

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<v Speaker 1>and slithering. Some descriptions compared it to a slithering snake,

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<v Speaker 1>but the press release actually stipulated that was inspired by

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<v Speaker 1>an octopus arm. It's made of silicone and that's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of for the soft touch with three D printed molds.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you watch the video that they released of

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, you can see how it controls its slithering motion,

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<v Speaker 1>which is through tension and release of the soft silicone

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<v Speaker 1>parts by inflating and contracting gas sacs and it looks

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. If you had a robot with real arms

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<v Speaker 1>like this, ideally it would be able to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>reach down on into a crack or a hole or

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<v Speaker 1>a pipe or you know, any kind of chasm, anything

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<v Speaker 1>that you wouldn't want to put your arm down into

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<v Speaker 1>my eye socket. I don't know. Whatever it is, it

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<v Speaker 1>can reach down with a sort of grasping manipulator that

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<v Speaker 1>would be quote as soft as chewing gum, which is

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<v Speaker 1>so sweet because, again, as you mentioned, most robots are hard.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not. They're not soft and cuddly and nice. Yeah. No, again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the baby test, like if like, like, would you

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<v Speaker 1>want to put this on your baby? Right, like, if

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<v Speaker 1>your baby fell down a pipe, you'd want a soft

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<v Speaker 1>arm that could go and wrap it up and pull

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<v Speaker 1>it back out, back out gently. That would be much preferable. Yes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, and there are. Obviously, these are not the

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<v Speaker 1>only grasping robot arms inspired by cephalopod arms and tentacles. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will talk about a few more of them

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<v Speaker 1>later on in the podcast. But first, let's talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about motion. Yeah, let's let's go a little bit deeper

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<v Speaker 1>into your dreams slash nightmares. Okay, so we've already got

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<v Speaker 1>robots that are getting toward being able to grasp things

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<v Speaker 1>and manipulate them like an octopus or a squid. What

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<v Speaker 1>about the way octopuses? Was that the plural we agreed

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<v Speaker 1>on octopuses? Yeah? What about the way octopuses and squids move?

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<v Speaker 1>So a topic we often come back to is robot locomotion,

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<v Speaker 1>because getting from one place to another isn't always as

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<v Speaker 1>easy as it would seem. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those other classic problems. Yeah, especially for machines, so

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<v Speaker 1>wheels are pretty dependable. At this point. You can make

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<v Speaker 1>a self driving car that if it stays on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>works pretty well, but that won't work everywhere. What if

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<v Speaker 1>your robot needs to climb a tree or a rocky hillside,

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<v Speaker 1>or descend into a crevice or swim in the ocean. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to deal with this now. A group

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<v Speaker 1>of researchers in Europe have working on creating and studying

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<v Speaker 1>a species of robot octopus that can swim. Robot octopus,

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<v Speaker 1>robot octopus that can swim. We're we're creating swimming robot octopuses. Now. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what I've seen is not a full octopus with like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an octopus soul and octopus eyes. It was

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<v Speaker 1>more just kind of a tentacle. This would be arms technically,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've said before they're sort of interchangeable, as we're

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<v Speaker 1>using a sort of arm tentacle motion simulator. In May,

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<v Speaker 1>at the i Tripoli International Conference on Robotics and Automation

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<v Speaker 1>and Karl's Rue Germany, a team of researchers who I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're all from Greece gave a presentation entitled octopus

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<v Speaker 1>inspired eight arm robotics swimming by sculling movements. That's another

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<v Speaker 1>verb I like. I'll explain that in just a minute. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I get into that, I found a background explanation

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<v Speaker 1>where Dr Dimitris sarkia Us, who is one of the researchers,

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<v Speaker 1>explains why you might want something like a robotic octopus.

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<v Speaker 1>So we want to have robots that can move around

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<v Speaker 1>freely underwater, and this is important for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different applications. Imagine you need to do industrial maintenance on

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<v Speaker 1>an underwater structure, or you need to do remote research

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<v Speaker 1>in an underwater cave, or search and rescue on a shipwreck,

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<v Speaker 1>like where the ship has become submerged, but there might

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<v Speaker 1>be survivors trapped in air pockets inside. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever read any of those stories, but they're terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not read them because they are terrifying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or search and rescue, and say even something like a

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<v Speaker 1>flooded urban area. You know, maybe there's a flood and

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<v Speaker 1>their basements and things like that. Anyway, it's important for

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<v Speaker 1>these kind of robots to be highly mobile, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>also important for them to be highly dextrous, so they

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<v Speaker 1>can open doors, pick up objects, move things around, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even gently hugged the torso of a live human.

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<v Speaker 1>So you could try to accomplish that by pairing to

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<v Speaker 1>other different elements. So you have propellers for motion, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have some kind of protruding robotic claw arms

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever kind of manipulator you want for the limbs.

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<v Speaker 1>But what if we maximize deficiency by pairing propulsion and

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<v Speaker 1>manipulation together into one machine feature. Yeah, because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>octopus is already do. Right, So the soft flexible arms

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<v Speaker 1>of an octopus connect as swimming limbs, walking limbs, and

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<v Speaker 1>grasping limbs. Can we do that with a robot? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the conference presentation showed the results of a study of

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<v Speaker 1>octopus inspired swimming motion. As I said, uh so, the

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<v Speaker 1>relevant type of octopus swimming is what you'd call sculling.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also sort of what those fancy Ivy League rowboat

0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.840
<v Speaker 1>kids do. It's it's a type of rowing. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>where you use multiple ores at once and you're pushing

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<v Speaker 1>through the water to propel yourself forward with oars. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they all push in synchronization to drive the main body

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<v Speaker 1>forward and the team study different octopus robots sculling motions

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<v Speaker 1>with dynamical models. So these were computer simulations. They did

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<v Speaker 1>simulations in software that try to simulate fluid dynamics to

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<v Speaker 1>predict the performance of different systems dealing with real world conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>They also built three D prototypes and got them swimming

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<v Speaker 1>around in a water tank. There is video of this

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube and it is beautiful. It's really weird. You

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<v Speaker 1>should check it out. Yeah, so they tested different gates

0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.120
<v Speaker 1>what they called gates. You know, I guess the gate

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<v Speaker 1>for us would be like different ways of walking swimming gates. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so these would be swimming gates. The variations and gate

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<v Speaker 1>could be controlled by how much the little robotic arms

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<v Speaker 1>moved and and in what order. So should they all

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<v Speaker 1>push in synchronization sort of like you'd often see with

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<v Speaker 1>an octopus trying to get away real fast? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that it kind of pulsates, if that makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>or should they row in alternating patterns? There are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the as you'll see in the video where it

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<v Speaker 1>almost looks random. I don't think it is random, but they, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the tentacles, the little robotic tentacles just move at different times,

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<v Speaker 1>more kind of the way that say, a spider walks.

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<v Speaker 1>They also tested the difference between rigid arms and then

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<v Speaker 1>these undulating, flexible arms that look more like a real

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<v Speaker 1>octopus's limb. And one of the interesting things they discovered

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<v Speaker 1>is that sculling doesn't necessarily produce the best fluid motion underwater,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the artificial gates made the robot move

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<v Speaker 1>through the fluid environment much more smoothly, which makes you

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<v Speaker 1>wonder why octopuses don't already do this. Now there could

0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:42.920
<v Speaker 1>be some compensating drawback or some anatomical limitation that prevents

0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.640
<v Speaker 1>them from doing it. I don't know, but I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was interesting. Yeah, yeah, that nature had not selected

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<v Speaker 1>for the more efficient But yeah, but maybe there's something

0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.440
<v Speaker 1>we don't know about this. Actually, maybe octopus is just preferred.

0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they thought real hard about it and they all

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<v Speaker 1>agreed that they just weren't going to that. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>style thing, Yeah exactly. It's like, you know, is strutting

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<v Speaker 1>really more efficient? No? But why wouldn't you strut? Okay,

0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:14.639
<v Speaker 1>So we're working on robotic tentacles that can manipulate and grab,

0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:19.719
<v Speaker 1>and we're working on robotic tentacles that can swim. So

0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.719
<v Speaker 1>we're pretty much getting both of the parts together. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're on the way to making a whole robot octopus.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if anybody is actually planning on doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>but the elements are coming together. Yeah, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>not all that is going on with tentacle inspired technology. No.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, you don't even have to look at the

0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:42.320
<v Speaker 1>octopus scale. You could shrink it way down. Yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>could be gripping things on a on a micro scale,

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<v Speaker 1>which is uh just as terrifying actually. Um So, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's talk about jellyfish tentacles. They're awful. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're wonderful from a biological standpoint, but they creep me

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<v Speaker 1>right out. Um. From from a passive position drifting in

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<v Speaker 1>the water, jellyfish tentacles can can automatically ensnare prey. They're

0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:12.080
<v Speaker 1>they're like living fly paper. Okay, and they're they're technically plankton,

0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.280
<v Speaker 1>which is a thing that I always forget until I

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<v Speaker 1>learn it again. Um, they're just really really big plankton. Wait,

0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.680
<v Speaker 1>hold on, jellyfish are jellyfish are planks? They're like plankton

0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.280
<v Speaker 1>that got huge. Yeah, they are literally plankton that got huge.

0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:28.359
<v Speaker 1>That is what they are. They're nervous systems basically don't exist.

0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:33.560
<v Speaker 1>To quote you, that's awful. That's so awful. I typically

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<v Speaker 1>love all animals. I kind of hate jellyfish. That's not fair,

0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:42.760
<v Speaker 1>but I'm kidding. I don't actually hate jellyfish. They're they're wonderful,

0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:50.920
<v Speaker 1>wonderful blobs of they're gorgeous. So their tentacles work like this, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're covered in thousands of specialized cells called nita blasts.

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<v Speaker 1>That's spelled with the c N by the way um,

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<v Speaker 1>which just reminds me of like cinabiite. Switch is great

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<v Speaker 1>from you know hell razor actually pronounced I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you have silences? Sorry latin um. So so

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<v Speaker 1>these these night o blasts have these little hair like

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<v Speaker 1>trigger follicles, okay um. And when something brushes up against

0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.120
<v Speaker 1>the tentacle and hits one of these triggers on one

0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:27.919
<v Speaker 1>of these cells, the cell discharges a coil of this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fleshy thread that can either wrap around or

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<v Speaker 1>or even penetrate a living thing, like like a dart um.

0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.520
<v Speaker 1>And those those living things are are usually their prey um,

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<v Speaker 1>anything from from algae and smaller plankton um to two

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<v Speaker 1>crustaceans and fish. In the case of larger jellyfish, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>the threads also contain neurotoxins that paralyze that prey and

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<v Speaker 1>sting the heck out of humans. So jellyfish. UM. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now let's talk camp there, and this is coming back

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<v Speaker 1>to tentacles, I promise, Just bear with me. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the most dangerous things about cancerous cells is that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't always stay put right. They can metastasize or break

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<v Speaker 1>off from their home site and move through your bloodstream

0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.440
<v Speaker 1>to other parts of your body, where they can cause

0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:23.040
<v Speaker 1>additional cancerous growth and damage bad times. UM. So, so

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<v Speaker 1>when a patient is receiving treatment for cancer, doctors might

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<v Speaker 1>test their blood for cancer cells to determine the best

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<v Speaker 1>course of therapies, you know, to to see if the

0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.360
<v Speaker 1>cancer is starting to move around, and figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>best to treat the patient. Um. It's still coming back

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<v Speaker 1>to tentacles, I promise. UM. One way to find rogue

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<v Speaker 1>cancer cells in a blood sample is to pour it

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<v Speaker 1>through a device that's been coated on the inside with

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<v Speaker 1>antibodies that are designed to um or that naturally stick

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<v Speaker 1>to proteins found on the surface of cancer cells, but

0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.800
<v Speaker 1>not on the surface of normal cells. So so the

0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.320
<v Speaker 1>cancer cells will brush by these antibodies and stick to

0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:03.919
<v Speaker 1>them clever. It is very clever. UM, But the antibodies

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a really high success rate because they're so

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<v Speaker 1>super tiny, just just a couple nanometers long, and um,

0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.159
<v Speaker 1>these cells rushing past might be some like ten to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty micrometers, like thousands of times bigger. Right, So it's

0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.800
<v Speaker 1>like trying to catch a really big beach ball with

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<v Speaker 1>the tip of a super glue tube. Um, It's it'll stick,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's hard to get it to latch. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>remember how I said just a couple of seconds ago

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<v Speaker 1>that jellyfish tentacles are super awesome passively capturing stuff. Inspired

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<v Speaker 1>by this, a researcher by the name of Jeffrey Carp

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<v Speaker 1>got a team together that designed tentacle like chains of

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<v Speaker 1>d N A that stick to a protein found on

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<v Speaker 1>cancer cells UM specific kinds of cancer cells. He was

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<v Speaker 1>working with leukemia cells, lung cancer cells, and colon cancer

0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:57.760
<v Speaker 1>cells specifically. UM. But uh yeah, yeah that this team

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<v Speaker 1>created a device with a kind of edged flow surface

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<v Speaker 1>UM and lined it with these long, tentacle like DNA

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<v Speaker 1>chains um and they report that it can catch up

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<v Speaker 1>to eight of target cells that are pushed through the device.

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<v Speaker 1>UM and since different chains of DNA can catch different

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of protein, the devices are hypothetically customizable for detecting

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<v Speaker 1>different kinds of cancer cells. Oh it's it's so, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so cool, it's and you know it is only for

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<v Speaker 1>for blood testing purposes. Um. There were some reporters who

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<v Speaker 1>I think kind of mistakenly got the idea that this

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<v Speaker 1>could like go into your blood vessels and catch cancer

0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:39.320
<v Speaker 1>cells as they were flowing through your body, and that

0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that is not what this is for. If that ever happens,

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 1>that would be pretty red But um, well, but I mean,

0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 1>detecting cancer is highly important to extremely important, especially early

0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:53.359
<v Speaker 1>detection before these metastasized cells can start causing damage and

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:59.960
<v Speaker 1>other organs. So yeah, but let's talk about something even

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<v Speaker 1>kind of squiak ear, which is uh, tentacle suckers. Okay,

0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:11.200
<v Speaker 1>now that we've cured your cancer, we're going to look

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 1>at cephalopod limbs again. Okay, So cephalopods, squid, octopuses, cuttlefish.

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>If you've ever looked at a squid or octopus limb,

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<v Speaker 1>you've probably seen them covered on the inside with big

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<v Speaker 1>clusters of protruding concave rings. These are often called suction

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<v Speaker 1>cups or suckers, and they held with gripping. So when

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<v Speaker 1>a squid or an octopus wants to grab a delicious

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<v Speaker 1>meal let's say it's a krill or you know, small fish,

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<v Speaker 1>crustacean or chihuahua uh aqueous, and they want to shove

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<v Speaker 1>it into the gaping beak of yummy nous, they latch

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<v Speaker 1>onto the prey organism with the suction cups on their arms. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>these suction cups are not the same on all right, right, Um,

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 1>octopuses have very muscular section cups, which is how they function. Um.

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 1>They have such complex muscular and nervous systems. Um, they've

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<v Speaker 1>got separate controls for each arm. And and those arm

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<v Speaker 1>controls can work independently of the brain. No, I think

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you messed up, you said, independently of the brain. Of

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<v Speaker 1>the brain. Yes, a research if if a researcher cuts

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<v Speaker 1>off an octopus's arm, which isn't very nice, but that's

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:33.880
<v Speaker 1>you know for science. Um uh and and tickles the arm,

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 1>it will react the same way that an attached arm

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<v Speaker 1>would react. Okay, weird creepy stuff. UM yeah, so so

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 1>they have such complex muscular nervous systems that they can

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<v Speaker 1>individually activate each section cup on their arms. Um. And

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.440
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of these things, and each one

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<v Speaker 1>is really kind of like a tiny mouth. UM. The

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<v Speaker 1>lips of the suckers can grip small stuff and irregular

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>surfaces and um and and the whole the sucker as

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>a whole can suction to larger, flatter objects, which is

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty creepy, pretty awesome, and lets them hold and manipulate

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:18.479
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of things, like like they can open jars

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and carry shells around um or even steal a diver's

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 1>camera if they want to. UM. So so. Inspired by this,

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<v Speaker 1>a team led by robotic manipulation researcher Chad Kesson's of

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the University of Maryland, in collaboration with the U. S. Army,

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<v Speaker 1>created robotic self sealing suction cups. Interesting. What the Army

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 1>wants to do with robotic self sealing suction cups, I

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>do not know, but they claim it's research and rescue.

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's for that. That is what they say

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>about everything that that. I love because it's cool, But

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>then I also wonder deep down like, wait a minute,

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>what's for military? Um, But tell me about it. I'm

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll just I'll take them at their word. Yes, yes, um. So,

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<v Speaker 1>so they place a bunch of these section cups on

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<v Speaker 1>a robotic arm or tentacle kind of thing that has

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<v Speaker 1>a vacuum pump inside, and each sucker sits closed by

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<v Speaker 1>a little plug until the lip of the sucker comes

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>into contact with an object, which causes the plug to

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 1>release and the cup to attempt to um form a

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<v Speaker 1>seal on the object. Okay um, And the vacuum pump

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<v Speaker 1>is going all the time, keeping all the plugs in

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<v Speaker 1>place in the cups that are closed, and providing suction

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.439
<v Speaker 1>power to all the cups that are open. UM. And

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:40.399
<v Speaker 1>this is really clever because it allows the maximum amount

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<v Speaker 1>of suction power UH to get to those open cups

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:48.439
<v Speaker 1>and UM. Traditional section robots will waste some of that

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<v Speaker 1>energy and and create possible leak points by leaving all

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<v Speaker 1>the suckers open all the time. So this is a

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<v Speaker 1>great workaround for that. That's pretty awesome. Yes, that is

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<v Speaker 1>not the only biommetal suction cup technology that's based on

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<v Speaker 1>cephalopod arms. For the other one, I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>turn to squid. Okay, so on squid, you don't just

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<v Speaker 1>have little suction cups. They're actually lined with rings of tiny,

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<v Speaker 1>super sharp teeth. I even found a couple of pictures

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<v Speaker 1>online of someone whose hands were marked up with lots

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<v Speaker 1>of tiny little scratches, allegedly from working with squid, and

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like they've been playing with a kitten. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh so cute. It was cute. It was like, let

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<v Speaker 1>me hug you with my razor fingers. Don't worry. This

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<v Speaker 1>does not mean they will cut giant scoops out of

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<v Speaker 1>you like with a melon baller. The person behind these

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<v Speaker 1>images was a cephalopod scientists named Donna Staff who in

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<v Speaker 1>another blog post she describes the function of the sucker

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<v Speaker 1>teeth as similar to that of vel crow. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not really for like slicing out huge chunks, but for

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<v Speaker 1>gripping right right, kind of like like when we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the follicles on getck feet and how they help you, well,

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<v Speaker 1>not you, but gets gripped walls and stuff. Sure, except

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<v Speaker 1>with more teeth, more teeth. Anyway, these little suckers can

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<v Speaker 1>they inspire technology to you? Bet? There was a June

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<v Speaker 1>nine publication in the journal a CS Nano called nano

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<v Speaker 1>confined b sheets or that's beta sheets actually mechanically reinforce

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<v Speaker 1>the supra biomolecular network of robust squid sucker ring teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>What on Earth does that mean? There's a good short

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<v Speaker 1>ride up on the American Chemical Society press page, and

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<v Speaker 1>they basically explained that through previous research, the authors had

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<v Speaker 1>found out that the sucker ring teeth, those little tiny

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<v Speaker 1>teeth we were just describing, which they abbreviate s RT,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not like the teeth or bone of many other animals,

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<v Speaker 1>which have to incorporate minerals or external elements, and instead,

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<v Speaker 1>the sucker ring teeth are made completely out of proteins alone.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this paper they identified a bunch of the

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<v Speaker 1>s r T proteins. There were thirty seven in addition

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<v Speaker 1>to one they had already discovered from one species of

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<v Speaker 1>cuttlefish and two species of squid. And they also studied

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<v Speaker 1>the structure of those proteins and found they presented as

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<v Speaker 1>these beta sheets, which is a type of protein structure,

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<v Speaker 1>and the researchers suggested that this stuff could be synthesized

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<v Speaker 1>to create materials that are both strong and malleable, which

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<v Speaker 1>could be really useful in say, biomedical scenarios, as like

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<v Speaker 1>scaffolding to grow tissues on, for example, or just simply

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<v Speaker 1>as an alternative to petroleum based packaging. It's just strong,

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<v Speaker 1>malleable stuff. We could use it for all kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Circular razor teeth to the future. Yes, they are saving

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<v Speaker 1>our planet excellent. So there are plenty more wonderful technically

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<v Speaker 1>technology things out there for you to go read about. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe we will do another episode about this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff in the future and that incredible future filled

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<v Speaker 1>with tiny sucker teeth. Yes, well do you want to do?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to give in the closing moments of our

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<v Speaker 1>podcast your little rant about why people shouldn't be mean

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<v Speaker 1>to octopuses. Oh, they're smarter than your dog, like like

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<v Speaker 1>your dog, not not just your dog, Joe, but most dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're just gentle, beautiful creatures. They there. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>really like hanging out like they just sort of want

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<v Speaker 1>to hide and then eat stuff. And that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>like doing. So I really think that you should not

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<v Speaker 1>eat octopuses and you should be really nice to them

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