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Speaker 1: Phillips and Bill Jones. What's up. Welcome into Talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: inside the SWBC Mortgage studio. I am Rob Phillips, not
Speaker 1: Bill Jones. He should be here in a few minutes.
Speaker 1: Traffic from South Lakes tough, Brian. Yeah, I thought he
Speaker 1: had a helicopter to get him. It's got a Jerry copter.
Speaker 1: Jerry copter. Yeah, he does make TV money, he does
Speaker 1: do well. One of those air buses, Go get you one,
Speaker 1: if you can get one of those, by the way,
Speaker 1: airbus like the airstream now it's yeah, it's it's the
Speaker 1: company that makes the helicopter. Airbus. They make they make
Speaker 1: they make arrow they make airplanes too. I was gonna
Speaker 1: say arrow something. I was gonna use the wrong word.
Speaker 1: I'm just so poorly educated. Yeah, university. Okay, Hey, my
Speaker 1: dad he turned out all right, Yes, your dad's good man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, welcome in. Mickey should be joining us fairly soon.
Speaker 1: I believe we can have a really we have a
Speaker 1: good three minute show, right and let's let's solve these
Speaker 1: gold line problems. That's where I was going to start with,
Speaker 1: because you know, Jerry was asked about it sure on
Speaker 1: the fan this morning, and yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he had any solutions that he divulged to one oh
Speaker 1: five three doesn't, But I mean, do we I don't.
Speaker 1: All I know is that it's gotten. You asked a
Speaker 1: really good question pre show to me, what's that? Do
Speaker 1: you feel like that they can run the football to
Speaker 1: get in? Yeah, and they don't. If you're if you're
Speaker 1: running plays that are trying to boy, we're having fun
Speaker 1: with Kit as he's flipping these camera around, really flipping
Speaker 1: the flip around for me a getting Kit. One time
Speaker 1: there were going flipping back to Rob. There we go, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there we go. Okay, I was just kind of noticing
Speaker 1: another corner of my eye I thought he was doing
Speaker 1: I'm like Mickey right now. Uh. But you know, if
Speaker 1: you if you're having to run kind of scheme kind
Speaker 1: of plays, if you're trying to run waggles and boots
Speaker 1: and screens and whatever, you know, that that doesn't show
Speaker 1: me that you have a lot of confident you're trying
Speaker 1: you're trying to create opportunity, which I I you know,
Speaker 1: Jerry also talked about being in the playoffs you have
Speaker 1: to be creative, you know, and maybe this is their way.
Speaker 1: They've they've run some creative plays to score, but they
Speaker 1: haven't scored. That that's where that's where I think things
Speaker 1: would be a little bit different for this team right now.
Speaker 1: You know, you'd say Lenahan, all right, yeah, oh that's
Speaker 1: that was pretty cool, and then they run the play
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it doesn't work. And
Speaker 1: then and then you got me on Twitter going or
Speaker 1: the or Cowboy Nation going broadestly got too cute there,
Speaker 1: that's a cute play. Don't run cute plays, you know
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Scott is in kind of a
Speaker 1: no win situation. He's not Everybody wants him fired, gotten
Speaker 1: on him about wrinkles all year long. Sure that's a
Speaker 1: pretty good wrinkle to jamay'z Ola Wally, Yeah, who hasn't
Speaker 1: touched the ball hardly at all this entire seat. That's
Speaker 1: what made it so cool. Yeah, but he could catch
Speaker 1: ol Wally could catch. He is what But you gotta
Speaker 1: put the ball out there in front of him, Yes,
Speaker 1: and you gotta put the ball on him there. That's
Speaker 1: that's just you know, don't don't leave that one to
Speaker 1: chance the ball on him and let him let him go.
Speaker 1: So it could have been a better throw. Sure he
Speaker 1: should have caught it. Should have caught it. Yeah, caught it.
Speaker 1: But if you throw it at him, I think he
Speaker 1: catches that ball, even if his feet his footwork was horrible.
Speaker 1: He got all tangled up and you know, couldn't get
Speaker 1: himself in position in the hands, he adjust and all that.
Speaker 1: All that's got to be together when you're throwing the
Speaker 1: ball that way. Hi, Mickey, where's everybody at? Tell me? Bill?
Speaker 1: Bills in the airbus trying to get over here right
Speaker 1: now the helicopter and the guys at the fan forgot
Speaker 1: to dial me up. So yeah, it's late. I did
Speaker 1: on paper a little. There's Bill and I together, got
Speaker 1: some Yeah, we're on the air Bill d sugar maybe
Speaker 1: on your chin there, it's probably my it's a napkin
Speaker 1: because he didn't use his beard lube this morning. No
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, absolutely, eat some donuts fans, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: And I finished it so Bill didn't have to smell
Speaker 1: it briefcase. Yeah, you talking to Mike Bill, that's kind
Speaker 1: of what we did, is what you gut in there, Bob. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bob's got to get all this stuff out like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bob does with Billy, Bob. We we first time all year.
Speaker 1: You've been later that the first time all year. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm like on time, normal time, whatever. And I turn
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Speaker 1: ten minute drive. I use it every morning, just in
Speaker 1: case there's another Legacy is not. That's the safer route
Speaker 1: to go. It's never backed up. Don't take the legacy, No, no,
Speaker 1: you can't. And so to hold on for to save
Speaker 1: money here, I think, no, no, no, Fortunately, all the
Speaker 1: back up so I was able to get out of it,
Speaker 1: okay and go your way. Yeah I got And so
Speaker 1: you take what you do is you take? Well, maybe
Speaker 1: I don't didn't do it right. Maybe I took Dallas Parkway.
Speaker 1: Now you take you take the tollway. You get off
Speaker 1: on John Hickman because I got stuck at six lights
Speaker 1: on the Dallas Parkway coming over. Then you come back
Speaker 1: to doing the traffic report, talking routes, fucking routes. We're
Speaker 1: on the air, right, Yeah, to cost you on the
Speaker 1: air for six minutes. Now it cost you another four
Speaker 1: five cents. But it's a well spent forty five cents
Speaker 1: a ze every day. Use it. Yeah, that's what my
Speaker 1: daughters tell me. I had one time where I got
Speaker 1: burned on that, and so all right, do it. It's
Speaker 1: never failed me. Well, welcome Bill. Well, Hi, how's everybody doing.
Speaker 1: How's everybody's fantasy football team doing. I was knocked out
Speaker 1: six weeks ago. It's actually refreshing that no player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm one of those weird guys that don't play. I
Speaker 1: used to not play, and I do it for social reasons.
Speaker 1: We've got a neighborhood group and we started it up
Speaker 1: about four or five years ago. And then I've got
Speaker 1: a family one. You know, once the kids move out
Speaker 1: of the house and stuff. It's a way to communicate
Speaker 1: with Yep, that's the way to week we communicate. There
Speaker 1: you go, and so congratulations to a loyal talking Cowboys listener,
Speaker 1: my daughter Jordan who has made it to the championship
Speaker 1: game with her victory last night. And guess who she
Speaker 1: gets to play in the championship game? Danny owns. That
Speaker 1: would be Berry Switzers. That would be my team, the
Speaker 1: Barry Switzer Berry Switchers. Berry Switchers could have come up
Speaker 1: with a more creative game, and that couldn't You have
Speaker 1: always been the very switch all right, very good and
Speaker 1: in fact I got two teams. It made it to
Speaker 1: the championship game thanks to Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara,
Speaker 1: last two good players. There you go. You'd like to play?
Speaker 1: Have those guys on your red zone team? How about
Speaker 1: those two? We were talking about red zone before you
Speaker 1: guys showed up. We're talking about what the problem, you know,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones was talking about. We don't know if anybody
Speaker 1: really has a great answer here, because it's been different.
Speaker 1: It's been a different thing. It's yeah, drops, it's been sacks.
Speaker 1: It's been minus plays even on runs, which I don't
Speaker 1: put that on the best running back in the league arguably,
Speaker 1: Um I think it's really the offensive line. You think
Speaker 1: that's the you think that's the main culprit here I
Speaker 1: did the inconsistency of the offensive line with protection and
Speaker 1: just also now and all the yeah, all the different
Speaker 1: bodies they've had to throw in there. Um, you brought
Speaker 1: up a good point. I mean, when you're trying to
Speaker 1: do this this direction plays and creative things, yeah, you're not.
Speaker 1: You're not lining up and just handing it. And sometimes
Speaker 1: that's the look too. They're putting ten in the box,
Speaker 1: which they did on third down down there, I mean
Speaker 1: it was it was loaded. Yeah, maybe you try something
Speaker 1: else based on the look, but I don't know. Nate
Speaker 1: Newton will tell you in the nineties they didn't really
Speaker 1: care what the front was. No, not real. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: because they were really good. So you're they could blow
Speaker 1: people off the line of scrimmage. These guys can't blow
Speaker 1: people the line of scrimmage. What happened when they went
Speaker 1: three three tight ends on fourth down? They ran the
Speaker 1: blown up, They ran it to the left side. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they went away from it. They went away from their strength.
Speaker 1: It tells me they don't trust their three tight ends
Speaker 1: blocking on the goal line. Okay, so it is the
Speaker 1: offensive line, then I think that it that's we can
Speaker 1: start there. Bill, How do the Colts score down there?
Speaker 1: I'm assuming Eric Ebron has a lot of touchdowns? Yeah, zone, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's a tight end issue there. They ran it
Speaker 1: in against the Cowboys, but it took them three times,
Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, against that defense that wasn't trying.
Speaker 1: But when a tight end's got twelve touchdowns, you would
Speaker 1: think that a lot of those touchdowns probably are within
Speaker 1: creative ways of getting them the ball. But I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's almost play to play because second
Speaker 1: and six from the eight, because he gets a five
Speaker 1: yard game almost scores. Yeah, Okay, when you're talking wait wait,
Speaker 1: wait real quick, he's offensive line. Are you lack of
Speaker 1: ten I'm going the lack of a Jason Witten like
Speaker 1: player Jason went I mean, what was a bread and
Speaker 1: butter play for this offense in twenty sixteen and seventeen
Speaker 1: for that matter. Yeah, it's a play fake tight end
Speaker 1: right there, right, and especially in the region, not so
Speaker 1: much in gold and go situation. Right, but when you're
Speaker 1: between the ten and the twenty, that's the perfect spot
Speaker 1: you get inside the eighteen. Jason Witten was a killer,
Speaker 1: right yeah, And so that's going to improve your red
Speaker 1: zone right there, right, Okay, now you get into the
Speaker 1: Golden Ran too, Yeah, there's yeah, with the back shoulder
Speaker 1: on those too much, too much reliant on twenty one
Speaker 1: in four to score when they get inside the ten,
Speaker 1: no one out. Who else is stepped up inside the
Speaker 1: ten yards? Good point, And maybe part of what Indianapolis
Speaker 1: was able to do scoring running the ball is the
Speaker 1: thread of the tight end down there too, you know,
Speaker 1: and and the threat of Witton or Bryant, you know,
Speaker 1: will open up things maybe in the run game down
Speaker 1: on the goal line where Zeke got fifteen touchdowns two
Speaker 1: years ago. Down I mean, I think the guy that
Speaker 1: has the best physical qualities to do what Dez did
Speaker 1: inside the ten is probably Gallop, Yes, just don't know
Speaker 1: that he's ready for it. That's a good point too,
Speaker 1: because he can jump, he can get up. But having
Speaker 1: said all of that, the offensive line is an issue obviously,
Speaker 1: with especially the current state of the offensive line. Well,
Speaker 1: Zach Martineau, I would say, yeah, number one, that push
Speaker 1: up front, but they have been a lot better overall
Speaker 1: in the running game, he said, plus five down there
Speaker 1: running the ball right, gets in there, gets close, second down,
Speaker 1: got into third and one zeke for five yards. That's
Speaker 1: why it's just kind of maddening. It's like it's you
Speaker 1: know and again. But it's not the only reason, because
Speaker 1: there have been two or three drops in the passing
Speaker 1: game that Noah Brown, I don't know if that was
Speaker 1: a drop that that just kind of missed him because
Speaker 1: of pressure basilely against Atlanta and then one the other day,
Speaker 1: you know, or maybe it's a different story if those
Speaker 1: guys catch the ball, but they're not just lining up
Speaker 1: and like Mickey said, blowing people off the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage at the three yard line. Yeah, oldah Wally makes
Speaker 1: that catch. They move up from the thirtieth in the
Speaker 1: league and red zone to twenty ninth. Probably it's been
Speaker 1: bad all year. No, that's you know, they're at the bottom.
Speaker 1: And you hope that's not what kills you when you
Speaker 1: get in the playoffs. No, it will, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: mark it down, Yeah, because when you get in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: any any short any shortcoming gets magnified exposed. Yeah. Is
Speaker 1: that the worst thing that they do this football team,
Speaker 1: is that the worst thing they do? Red zone efficiency yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they're ranked last I think or thirty first. Was
Speaker 1: that a problem last year? Not to this extent, not
Speaker 1: to the He's right about that. So what changed personnel?
Speaker 1: We just talked about Witton and Bryant, and I know
Speaker 1: Bryant didn't have as good as year Mickey Travis Frederick
Speaker 1: that that's huge. Travis Frederick's huge. The fact that you're
Speaker 1: you're you're playing with, you know, a backup guard and there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that Martin's been there for a
Speaker 1: lot of this, but there's there's something not quite right there.
Speaker 1: And I think you're on it with the offensive line.
Speaker 1: I think that's really But I like the Witton argument too.
Speaker 1: I like the I like the availability of a tight end.
Speaker 1: You know, I know that you know. And it's not
Speaker 1: that these tight ends can't do the job, but there
Speaker 1: is a trust factor between they don't know the back
Speaker 1: in the tight end. Well, i'll tell you why. To
Speaker 1: develop that. On the pass you through to Ola Wally,
Speaker 1: you had Jarwin open on the back, then the back
Speaker 1: the end zone. He just didn't throw it to him.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't the one to design the ball was
Speaker 1: to go to the flat, to go to the fullback,
Speaker 1: and you know, but why not throw it to the fullback?
Speaker 1: I mean, he's it should be an easy touchdown. No
Speaker 1: one covered him. Do they red zone offense or pass protection? Overall? Well,
Speaker 1: that was the second thing that popped into my mind,
Speaker 1: because they're not the worst than anything defensively overall, that
Speaker 1: this has been a very stout defensive group. We know
Speaker 1: that how many sacks has DAC taken? Okay, area fifty one,
Speaker 1: most in the league, second second most. Um, I just
Speaker 1: read it. I think Deshaun Watson's taken Yeah, a couple
Speaker 1: of games where he was broken in half those games.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I'm trying to you know.
Speaker 1: It seems like to me the I'm learning about this team.
Speaker 1: If the defense doesn't play well, they don't win. And
Speaker 1: the offensive line, which I thought they could hang their
Speaker 1: hat on, you cannot hang your hat on them. Well
Speaker 1: that's what I've learned about this team. I mean, think
Speaker 1: about it. Your your Pro Bowl left tackles playing with
Speaker 1: one arm basically, Yeah, the big old gadget he has
Speaker 1: on the left. You were down to your third guard
Speaker 1: at left guard, your backup center, you're backup right. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I understand that. I mean, you know, at
Speaker 1: some point those things matter. I I love the next
Speaker 1: man up philosophy, but the reason the next man's coming
Speaker 1: up is because he's not as good as the man Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you can't have that spread out over the three
Speaker 1: fifths of your offensive line. So one reason next man
Speaker 1: up works when Sean Lee goes out this year is
Speaker 1: because you got Layton Vander you had some man up.
Speaker 1: Although yeah, but they did win some games with with
Speaker 1: cam Fleming playing they did next Man, I know, and Nicky,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not against you on that when I
Speaker 1: thought there were times where you know, I know you
Speaker 1: had some apprehension. I was right with you on cam Fleming.
Speaker 1: There was times where I'm watching him go, Man, I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is the right way to go.
Speaker 1: I don't know that, but you know he they survived that.
Speaker 1: They they've survived with Sue Fie a plane. But you
Speaker 1: know what, I think you can And do you tell
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, because I ain't no offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: but I think you can protect your left tackle. I
Speaker 1: don't know that you can protect your guard. Not in
Speaker 1: this day and age. You can't. It's out there by himself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's be honest here, this is gonna this league is
Speaker 1: gonna turn around where you're gonna see more Aaron Donald's
Speaker 1: not maybe that talent, but you're gonna see more people
Speaker 1: relying on defensive tackles in this in this football than
Speaker 1: there are defensive ends. The defensive tackles affect the game
Speaker 1: in the middle of the pocket. That's where these quarterbacks
Speaker 1: the problem for them is not the edge. They can
Speaker 1: handle the edge stuff. It's the middle of the pockets
Speaker 1: that these quarterbacks can't handle because you can't climb it. No,
Speaker 1: you watch next year. You watch how this kid Williams,
Speaker 1: Quentin Williams from Alabama. He will be one of the
Speaker 1: top guys selected. The guy, the guy at Michigan will
Speaker 1: be one of the top guys selected. Because they're defensive tackles.
Speaker 1: They affect the game. Look at what happened last night,
Speaker 1: Yeah blitzing. Yeah, up the middle, Up the middle. These
Speaker 1: quarter backs can't handle stuff come and happen in the middle.
Speaker 1: They if they could see stuff on the edge, they
Speaker 1: can deal with it. Take a step up, boom, Are
Speaker 1: you see the guy? Or get rid of the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so hot, so that's kind of where I'm Mickey, I
Speaker 1: believe it is taking it this way where you know,
Speaker 1: look at what's happening inside with with with the center
Speaker 1: and the guard. The center's played well, but he got
Speaker 1: overmatched in that game. He did. He got overmatched a
Speaker 1: couple of different times in that game that those holding
Speaker 1: calls were bad holding calls. I mean it was holding.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was, you know. And then Tyron Smith.
Speaker 1: You know, Mickey's right, he's playing with one arm. But
Speaker 1: sometimes one arm Tyron Smith is better than you know,
Speaker 1: there's teams out there'd love to have one arm Tyron Smith.
Speaker 1: I'll take it, but we're we're so used to Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith just you know, just eliminating people. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just it's been I think that's if you want to
Speaker 1: if they go back and look at the season at
Speaker 1: the end of it and maybe will one day as
Speaker 1: you say, okay, what was what was the reason? What
Speaker 1: was the reason? What were the biggest problems? Well, the
Speaker 1: red zone problems a lobo. It has to do with
Speaker 1: what's going on with the offensive line. How about when
Speaker 1: they get down there and they give up sacks? You
Speaker 1: know that, I mean, I saw a stat there there.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Again pro football focus, you know, take
Speaker 1: them or leaving whatever you want. But they're talking about
Speaker 1: that Dak is one of the most sack quarterbacks without blitzing,
Speaker 1: you know, with just just regular fore man rush. And
Speaker 1: if you're if that's if you're getting sacked on foe
Speaker 1: man rush, then there's some there's issues there. And again
Speaker 1: people will say, oh, he's holding it too long, but
Speaker 1: other guys not open them too. Yeah, that there's covered
Speaker 1: sacks and I would argue two man route nobody gets open. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And how many offensive holding calls have There been way
Speaker 1: too many, way way too many. In fact, Jerry's talking
Speaker 1: on the fan this morning. They were asking him about
Speaker 1: the penalties and everything, and he's talking about, you got
Speaker 1: to focus on the penalties. Well, a lot of time
Speaker 1: those holding penalties, you're getting beat and that's why they're holding,
Speaker 1: you know, and um, it comes back to what you
Speaker 1: have playing, you know. Yeah, those aren't the guys you
Speaker 1: intended when you put this team together. He's right off.
Speaker 1: That's why when when you start analyzing the draft next year, yeah,
Speaker 1: just keep your eye on offensive lineman. Sure, because as
Speaker 1: they doubled down on the weak side linebacker. I think
Speaker 1: they need to start doubling down on the offensive. You
Speaker 1: know what's interesting about that. I mean they took a
Speaker 1: offensive lineman in the second round, Connor Williams. And in fact,
Speaker 1: there was a guy that they were looking at and
Speaker 1: they could have taken in the first round James Daniels
Speaker 1: center from Iowa. Yeah, it was with Chicago. But and
Speaker 1: at the time, if you looked at him, you were like,
Speaker 1: this is a walk in starter right here. They've they've
Speaker 1: draft some plug and play guys exactly. But then you
Speaker 1: look at it. How much do you have at the
Speaker 1: time of the draft? Yeah, how much do you have
Speaker 1: invested in this offensive line? There's no way you can
Speaker 1: take an offensive lineman in the first round of this draft.
Speaker 1: What are we talking about here in Week sixteen? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's still they got a chance to clinch the vision.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about what's bicky mix A great point.
Speaker 1: The offensive line could be the reason why you don't
Speaker 1: have exactly. It's good. It's like like the same thing
Speaker 1: the year before, where no, you can't take a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Why would you there said it wide receiver? You can't
Speaker 1: take a wide receiver in the draft. Well, you could
Speaker 1: have taken Juju Smith Schuster in the second round, sure
Speaker 1: of that draft. And you know Dez falls off, okay,
Speaker 1: and there was a desperate need for wide receivers this year.
Speaker 1: As it turns out, Okay, it changes so quickly in
Speaker 1: this league. You don't know. I mean, but Travis Frederick
Speaker 1: that that hopefully he'll be able to return service. You
Speaker 1: don't know when Gey and Barre syndrome hits a player,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't know, and you don't know next year, right,
Speaker 1: you don't know, So maybe you have to cover yourself
Speaker 1: at center, kind of a center slash guard type guy. Think,
Speaker 1: and they took the right guy in the first round,
Speaker 1: like Vanderesh because they needed that. And I do think
Speaker 1: Connor Williams is going to be a good player, a
Speaker 1: very good player. You watch him when they get out
Speaker 1: on the starting on the move, pulling like in the
Speaker 1: run game they did the other day. He's great at that.
Speaker 1: It's strength. We've talked about it. He could do and
Speaker 1: you might be able to do that too. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get stronger. He's twenty two years old. Give him a
Speaker 1: offseason in the weight room. That part of his game
Speaker 1: will be better? So are we We're talking about sinners
Speaker 1: and Mickey. I'll ask everybody who this it's about sinners
Speaker 1: and looking at centers in the draft potentially. But Joe Looney?
Speaker 1: We are we just going to say Joe Loney coming
Speaker 1: back for another year? Where this offseason talk? But is
Speaker 1: Joe Looney everybody comfortable with that? Or would do you
Speaker 1: need to get comfortable with him as the sixteen game starter? Well,
Speaker 1: so far that's backup. I'm okay, yeah, but he's getting
Speaker 1: exposed a little bit not being paid as a backup.
Speaker 1: How do I know Travis Frederick? How do I know
Speaker 1: he's gonna be there? Yeah, well, you definitely want Looney
Speaker 1: on the team, and yeah, but you want to m
Speaker 1: you know, you're hoping that Frederick comes back. See this
Speaker 1: is where people will argue with you about drafting an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman because they said, well, look what you've seen
Speaker 1: from Looney. You know, look, he's played sixteen games and
Speaker 1: it hasn't been terrible. And then you think about Connor Williams.
Speaker 1: You know, you'd like Connor Williams to be the starter,
Speaker 1: and that's fine, but maybe I have a better backup?
Speaker 1: Is it? You know? The Redman kid wasn't terrible in
Speaker 1: the game the other day, but he's he is what
Speaker 1: he is. But it's tough when you look at that
Speaker 1: interior line against the Colts all of a sudden, Redman
Speaker 1: and Looney who's been there, and then and then Connor
Speaker 1: and it's just you need Zach back. You just really
Speaker 1: kind of back right guard for the first time in NFL. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he never yeah, exactly right, and we got to go
Speaker 1: to a break. But they to wrap up the red
Speaker 1: zone conversation, we're asking about where they ranked last year
Speaker 1: and red zone percentage. They last year sixth in the
Speaker 1: league at fifty nine point six as Rob pointed out,
Speaker 1: their thirty first right now, forty four percent touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the red zone. All right, fifty nine point six percent
Speaker 1: last year sixth in the league. In twenty and sixteen,
Speaker 1: they were third in the league, sixties six percent. See that,
Speaker 1: does that just have the percentage there is a half
Speaker 1: at times they scored at fifty seven in twenty and sixteen,
Speaker 1: they scored touchdowns on fifty seven out of thirty eight
Speaker 1: trips in the red zone two thousand and seven eight
Speaker 1: the other way around, right, Matty mean thirty eight touchdowns
Speaker 1: in fifty seven trips and twenty and seventeen thirty one
Speaker 1: touchdowns in fifty two attempts, sixth in the league. And
Speaker 1: this year nineteen touchdowns and six of those games. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're calling card when they've had Zeke. It's not unlike
Speaker 1: the nineties where you just line up and we're gonna
Speaker 1: score or if not, we're gonna run some RPO and
Speaker 1: get Dak involved. That way. That's been productive for them too.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's difference. The difference, crazy man. Those two
Speaker 1: years they were trusting the offensive line, and I think
Speaker 1: this year they're looking at what they are. Got to
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Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City. Mickey wants to know what there's
Speaker 1: snow in Salt Lake City. Johnny, Yeah, there is right now.
Speaker 1: I'm headed to Edmonton. I'm a truck driver, so here
Speaker 1: coming up safe man. Yeah yeah, thanks, appreciate it. Hey,
Speaker 1: So I just had two quick points. I'll make it quick.
Speaker 1: First off, everybody's banging on the defense that they didn't
Speaker 1: do their job, and I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: If he told me that a team is going to
Speaker 1: score six out of seven drives, I would imagine it'd
Speaker 1: be a little more different of a score might have
Speaker 1: been higher. But I think the defense did the best
Speaker 1: they could twenty three points. That's still not something insurmountable
Speaker 1: that this team couldn't have come out. My second point
Speaker 1: is on deck. I think we also need to show
Speaker 1: a little bit restraint as far as trying to tell
Speaker 1: everybody what Dak might be or might not be. Bill
Speaker 1: Parcel saw you the beloved twenty Romo. He was not
Speaker 1: ready to take over until after his third four year
Speaker 1: year when he started playing, and I think Dak is
Speaker 1: in a similar progression. The biggest thing that I see
Speaker 1: that could have happened to him was losing Jason went
Speaker 1: because now you're seeing Dak had to throw the outside
Speaker 1: receivers to work on that development of his game. And yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some warts you can see it, overthrown passes, all
Speaker 1: sort of stuff, you know, back shoulder faid. We should
Speaker 1: have been throwing in the front, in the back. But
Speaker 1: he's he's progressing. I'm seeing the game in the game. Um.
Speaker 1: The guys at the base that could they just got
Speaker 1: their butts whoop and um. I think we should just
Speaker 1: let it play out. You know, once we get to
Speaker 1: the next year we see progression again, then we should
Speaker 1: give this this guy, this kid his hard work as
Speaker 1: ethic um a chance. If not, then you know we'll
Speaker 1: go from there. Thanks, guys, Well, a truck driver with
Speaker 1: common sense, are you? Is that surprising? Mickey? Yes, right
Speaker 1: now the truck drivers saying huh and commons Okay, that's
Speaker 1: not truck drivers, it's yeah. I think there's I think
Speaker 1: there's common sense. I think there's more people out there
Speaker 1: that agree with what he's saying. I do. I think
Speaker 1: there's a side that we get, that we hear, that
Speaker 1: we see. You know, that's the thing with social media
Speaker 1: the way it is that we tend to see a
Speaker 1: lot of folks opinions mail bag and that's okay, you
Speaker 1: know that's a great thing about it. You know, you
Speaker 1: should if you have your opinion. But I do agree
Speaker 1: with I do agree with him. I do. I think
Speaker 1: there's you know, in the offseason, when it gets to
Speaker 1: off season, I mean, this team still got things to
Speaker 1: play for it, they got meaningful games. This one's a
Speaker 1: huge game this week. They got a meaningful playoff game hopefully,
Speaker 1: and you know, it could take a run through this thing,
Speaker 1: but I think it gets to offseason talk. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: have to sit down and evaluate, Okay, evaluate the quarterback,
Speaker 1: evaluate the line, evaluate the defense, evaluate the coaches, evaluate
Speaker 1: everybody involved, and then and then make your decisions. You know,
Speaker 1: but you have to give this thing some time to
Speaker 1: play out the way it is. But we're starting to
Speaker 1: see some clues of things that they need to work on.
Speaker 1: They heck, they saw at mid season. They knew that
Speaker 1: the receiver by committee was not working. They went out
Speaker 1: and made a huge, huge get. They knew the offensive
Speaker 1: line was struggling with the current coach. What they do
Speaker 1: they gotta or the passcodes. They got a new coach.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta trust that these guys will make
Speaker 1: the right decisions with that way, you know. And then
Speaker 1: the one on the quarterbacks a very important decision. But
Speaker 1: I agree with him, you know, you know, and he
Speaker 1: pointed out, you know, the defense taken a hit here.
Speaker 1: Even Dak said it after the game. Hey, the defense
Speaker 1: gave up twenty three points. No, you should be able
Speaker 1: to outscore twenty three points. And he's right, that's the
Speaker 1: bar they've set, right ye yeah, yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: just kind of great. I mean, they really have how
Speaker 1: many points did they give up the week before twenty three? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And they won in overtime, right, right, And They held
Speaker 1: the Saints twenty seven below their average the week before that.
Speaker 1: Falcons too, remember that one. Yeah, they've been outstanding. Average
Speaker 1: took a hit last night Carolina held him twenty five
Speaker 1: below their average. Lass. Well that you know, you know
Speaker 1: how that goes, guyss Division games, Yep, you get you
Speaker 1: get a division game. All look at Sandfords. Just go
Speaker 1: in Seattle and division game there. And there was a
Speaker 1: time when the Rams were really bad when they were
Speaker 1: in Saint Louis. Always gave Seattle trouble in those division games.
Speaker 1: But I thought six weeks ago, wasn't the fifty four
Speaker 1: fifty one was the way of this league, wasn't it?
Speaker 1: I mean every game was Thank god that happened. We've
Speaker 1: seen this movie before. These offenses that are unstoppable. In
Speaker 1: weeks one through ten, defenses start to catch up a
Speaker 1: little bit and some of its division familiarity. We saw
Speaker 1: it with the seven Patriots, We're seeing it now the
Speaker 1: you know, Jared Goff is thrown I think seven picks
Speaker 1: in his last three games. Yeah, Rams have stuff to
Speaker 1: figure out too. Right now. This thing is so wide open,
Speaker 1: yes it is in the NFC. It is unreal, just
Speaker 1: how wide open it is. And when you compare it
Speaker 1: to a couple of weeks ago when it looked like
Speaker 1: the okay, the Rams and the Saints or the crop
Speaker 1: crop and the and the Cowboys exposed the Saints when
Speaker 1: the thirteen to ten win. And now we've seen more
Speaker 1: evidence of it. Saints ruggled well last week, they got
Speaker 1: up to twenty seven or twenty eight points, but then
Speaker 1: last night against Carolina they only get twelve points. And
Speaker 1: then you see what you're talking about with the Rams.
Speaker 1: But you look at the Cowboys playing Tampa Bay on Sunday.
Speaker 1: How much pressure is on this game? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is five and nine, Tampa Bay coming in here.
Speaker 1: As Jerry alluded to as show this morning, these five
Speaker 1: win teams or a four win team can beat you.
Speaker 1: Anybody can win, they got I mean. And here's the
Speaker 1: other thing. All right, The Redskins are playing Tennessee on Saturday. Okay,
Speaker 1: they could be eliminated Saturday, we'll see. Okay. The Eagles
Speaker 1: are playing Houston. What's the time, Oh so it's a
Speaker 1: noon game, same time the Cowboys are playing, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: If the Cowboys were to lose to Tampa Bay, okay,
Speaker 1: and the Eagles beat the Texans, and let's say the
Speaker 1: Redskins went to No, I don't think it's going to happen. Okay,
Speaker 1: you go to next week and the Cowboys have to
Speaker 1: beat the Giants. Because the Redskins are playing the Eagles,
Speaker 1: one of those teams is gonna win, or a tie
Speaker 1: would also put them ahead ahead of the Cowboys. The
Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is give the Giants
Speaker 1: a reason to play what they probably considered a meaningless
Speaker 1: game on the final game of the season. Because they
Speaker 1: knock the Cowboys out of the playoffs, they will be
Speaker 1: fired up. Ye gotta be ready to play. I mean
Speaker 1: there is there are no excuses this week. You gotta
Speaker 1: be ready and loaded for bear when Tampa Bay comes
Speaker 1: here on Sunday, they've got to Yeah, you get back
Speaker 1: in that mindset that you were in the previous five
Speaker 1: or six weeks, and that's it's just backs against the
Speaker 1: wall everything they've been saying. You gotta get back to that.
Speaker 1: And I don't. I don't. I don't think they relaxed
Speaker 1: against the Colts. I don't. I don't think we give
Speaker 1: the Colts enough credit. Colts went out there and beat them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sure it, but this is a young team that Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett talked about this yesterday. It's about mental toughness. Every
Speaker 1: single play, every drive. They're gonna win some you got
Speaker 1: to be able to forget it and bounce back. And
Speaker 1: that's a young team that's done a good job of
Speaker 1: that for the most part. Since November didn't happen. The
Speaker 1: other day for whatever reason, it didn't happen, and they've
Speaker 1: just got to get back to that. They've shown they
Speaker 1: can do it. They've shown they can do it well,
Speaker 1: and they you know, you just put that in your
Speaker 1: rear view mirror and you you assume the same mindset
Speaker 1: the deck you had in the five game win streak,
Speaker 1: and this is a I mean, they've got to approach this.
Speaker 1: This is a playoff game on Sunday. Well haven't they
Speaker 1: been playing playoff game xactly? I mean, if you you know,
Speaker 1: the only thing the five wins has put them in
Speaker 1: a position to win the division. You know, that's what
Speaker 1: surprised me about the Indianapolis came in Indianapolis a good
Speaker 1: football team. We saw that with our own eyes, but
Speaker 1: it surprised me with with with a lot on the
Speaker 1: line there, you know, going out and win in the division.
Speaker 1: You know, you go out and beat Tampa now, okay,
Speaker 1: you got to Now you could think about things for
Speaker 1: that final week, were you Okay, how do I help Zeke?
Speaker 1: How do I set myself up to be better in
Speaker 1: the playoffs? You know, you could you could kind of
Speaker 1: spend a little bit more time. Maybe you know your
Speaker 1: opponent is Seattle and you can you know, you can
Speaker 1: kind of hone in on them a little bit more,
Speaker 1: you know, get ready for that game. Well one thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, Jerry was asked
Speaker 1: at one point this morning, do you have a opponent
Speaker 1: you'd like to face in the playoffs? And Cherry was like,
Speaker 1: we gotta gotta get in the bucks coming in here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that question. Um, but I mean in okay,
Speaker 1: So you're looking at Chicago. I mean they're Chicago is
Speaker 1: locked in the threat. They're locked in, and so the
Speaker 1: Cowboys if they win over Tampa Bay, they're locked into
Speaker 1: the four. So there's nothing to play for last week.
Speaker 1: That's substance. Now you're getting ready for your posting a
Speaker 1: wildcard game. Yeah, absolutely, yes there is because I picked
Speaker 1: them to go ten and six. Okay, Okay, go crack
Speaker 1: the whip. Yeah, I just think you have to. You
Speaker 1: have to think about your I think you have to
Speaker 1: think about your guard. I think you think I think
Speaker 1: you have to think about your running back. I think
Speaker 1: more importantly, you do have to think about your running back.
Speaker 1: He's the one He is the one thing that can
Speaker 1: win you a playoff game, and and and his when
Speaker 1: his health gets compromised, then then I that's when I
Speaker 1: really really start to worry about this football team. Oh. Sure,
Speaker 1: you gotta love a home playoff game with a running
Speaker 1: back that has fresh legs. Yeah, And it might be
Speaker 1: hard to say he's going to be any type of
Speaker 1: fresh because of what he's endured. We've all we all
Speaker 1: like throwing the ball, keep throwing the ball, throwing the
Speaker 1: ball from you know, and then now he's all beat up,
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, oh my god, he's carrying the ball
Speaker 1: too much. But he's the one reason why you have
Speaker 1: a chance in the playoffs. He is a great equalizer,
Speaker 1: you know, because he could take over a game. If
Speaker 1: you don't stop the run, he will wear you out.
Speaker 1: I mean they were doing this in this Colts game
Speaker 1: until the fourth quarter. They didn't have a lot of
Speaker 1: third and longs, and a lot of it is his
Speaker 1: ability to get that four yards, two or three yards.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's maybe a guy in the league
Speaker 1: that can do what he can do in terms of
Speaker 1: that yards after the contact. Even throw him the ball now,
Speaker 1: ye second and nine, they throw him the ball, he
Speaker 1: gets what nine yards? You know? I mean that he's
Speaker 1: an incredible player, he really really is. But you better
Speaker 1: think about you better find a way to win this
Speaker 1: game so you don't have to sit there and tax
Speaker 1: him another game against the Giants. And by the way,
Speaker 1: with the way that that Indianapolis ran the ball, you
Speaker 1: have a little concerned about the Giants running the ball
Speaker 1: with their guy. But you're gonna probably say, you're gonna
Speaker 1: say broad us. Nah, the deffitsive line not even close,
Speaker 1: not even close. You worry about You worry about the
Speaker 1: Giants if you had to play a game where they
Speaker 1: would say, Okay, we're just gonna load up and run
Speaker 1: the ball against you. They did a nice job against
Speaker 1: him in the first game, right as sure did. But
Speaker 1: they sure did, and they really have all year long. Again,
Speaker 1: more so than anything, I just give credit to the
Speaker 1: Colts line for what they did both sides the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they just they won the battle up front convincingly.
Speaker 1: Especially Yeah, especially with their offensive line. I do expect
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense to play better than they did. You know,
Speaker 1: but you want you go back and you watch it.
Speaker 1: I know you did. I watched a little bit back yesterday.
Speaker 1: It's just guys getting the second level taking linebackers out
Speaker 1: of the play. Just haven't seen that. Yeah, they struggled.
Speaker 1: They struggled. Their fits the run fits too are bad too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Zeke's caught seventy two passes. It looks like every one
Speaker 1: of them he's taking a big hit. I wonder what
Speaker 1: the love record is for running back receptions because I
Speaker 1: think I had eighty Preston Pearson back in the day.
Speaker 1: A lot of catches to that level. He was just
Speaker 1: the third down guy. Yeah, but I was just saying
Speaker 1: a guy that was brought into the league to or
Speaker 1: brought into the Cowboys to catch the football. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they had Tony Hill and they had a lot of
Speaker 1: great players. Are just taking a running back suit. But
Speaker 1: you're right, Brian, as tough as he is and durable
Speaker 1: as he is. Jar he said after the forty touch game,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, he said, I've never seen
Speaker 1: him that spent after a game, and he's an energizer, bunny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he takes hits. That hits he that hit he
Speaker 1: took trying to the hurdle on a leak out pass
Speaker 1: early in the Colts game. He's he's taking some shots. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Preston Pearson in nineteen seventy seven a Super Bowl season,
Speaker 1: was second on the team in receptions behind Drew Pearson.
Speaker 1: Drew Pearson had forty eight catches and Preston Pearson had
Speaker 1: forty six. Okay, it was a different era, Yeah, much
Speaker 1: different era. I'll show you where to find it real quick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. That to me is that we
Speaker 1: we've all get the ball in Zeke's hands. Never a
Speaker 1: bad thing, never, but man, now you're starting to see
Speaker 1: a little bit of the wear and tear of of
Speaker 1: of our of our greediness what we call that. But
Speaker 1: that's that's how you win football game. And you built
Speaker 1: this team that way, and you ask anybody, he wants
Speaker 1: the ball for sure every time. I mean, he's a
Speaker 1: team player, but he doesn't care about the beating. Did
Speaker 1: he take me and those hits he takes on the
Speaker 1: sidelines and stuff, and you're going, oh, jeez, please please
Speaker 1: get up. You know, I mean he jumps over guys
Speaker 1: and you know it gets hit by the linebackers and
Speaker 1: you're just like, oh, please get up. How about this?
Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty three, Ron Springs led the team with
Speaker 1: seventy three catches. Yeah, there you go, Preston Pearson, Ron Springs,
Speaker 1: those are the record. Herschel Walker had seventy six. You said,
Speaker 1: Richie Anderson at eighty. I'm going to Richie Anderson, had
Speaker 1: I got that wrong? He had sixty nine. I thought
Speaker 1: it was Herschel. Herschel had seventy six and sixty when
Speaker 1: he led the team. So I'm sure we'll get a
Speaker 1: release on that. How many us he got right now?
Speaker 1: We said two seventy two, seventy two, okay, three screens
Speaker 1: against the H four screens and we're on our way. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm talking Cowboys. Hello Nebbi. Uh uh uh Hi guys,
Speaker 1: um uh listen. I usually don't do this because they
Speaker 1: don't usually work. Uh. But in this particular case, considering
Speaker 1: how poorly we played against the Courts, I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to make a motivational speech. Obviously, we played our worst
Speaker 1: game of the season uh against the Quotes, but we
Speaker 1: still have a tremendous opportunity in front of us, so
Speaker 1: U this Sunday at home against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: We have to play as if our season is on
Speaker 1: the line, because we uh, we don't. We don't want
Speaker 1: to have to rely on the Tennessee Titans and the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans to do our dirty work for us, and
Speaker 1: we certainly don't want it to come down to the
Speaker 1: last week against the New York Giants because usually divisional
Speaker 1: games are close and the Giants would love nothing more
Speaker 1: than to keep us out of the playoffs. So again,
Speaker 1: we have to play as if our season is on
Speaker 1: the line. Uh uh. And let's go out and execute
Speaker 1: and win the NFC East and give ourselves a chance
Speaker 1: uh uh to win a Super Bowl champion uh uh
Speaker 1: uh ship uh uh. Take care thanks for being patient
Speaker 1: with me, and happy holidays, Merry Christmas, and happy New Year.
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, take care of bye. All right, buddy,
Speaker 1: I feel like right now, ye me out there to
Speaker 1: give the post uh warm up speech. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: a great idea. Uh And it's exactly right. There's exactly
Speaker 1: the attitude that the Cowboys need to have this week
Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay. It's all there for the taking in. Uh.
Speaker 1: Put last week behind them and um and focus on
Speaker 1: these Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who, by the way, they had
Speaker 1: the Saints down fourteen to three going into the second
Speaker 1: half last week. Yeah, and Baltimore was only up on
Speaker 1: him seventeen twelve until a late field goal or late
Speaker 1: touchdown in that game to quality opponents. And so you
Speaker 1: can't take Tampa Bay lightly at all a layups in
Speaker 1: this league. That's exactly right. So what Nebby said to
Speaker 1: understand that on the post game show, Nate and Cubby said,
Speaker 1: burn the tape and move forward. Yeah, no, don't even
Speaker 1: watch the game, just burn it. Yeah, might be a
Speaker 1: right approach to take. Well, yeah, I think everybody realized,
Speaker 1: like you said, Mickey, they took an ass kick and
Speaker 1: in that game. So you don't need to see it again.
Speaker 1: You just you felt it. You know, you have the
Speaker 1: you have the bruises to prove it. But you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's there's just so much that they I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just the only thing to me that was
Speaker 1: disappointing was and I'll leave it at this, that they
Speaker 1: had chance to go and win that division right then
Speaker 1: and there, you know, and keep the moment of five,
Speaker 1: the five game winning streak. You know, they've done some
Speaker 1: really great things to get themselves in this position. I
Speaker 1: just it's a shame that they went out there and
Speaker 1: had that happened to them. Because if you get the victory,
Speaker 1: now you're starting to think, okay, let's keep playing with momentum.
Speaker 1: And now you know, Bill, Bill has brought up something
Speaker 1: kind of you know, Nelson, Okay, well, don't lose this game,
Speaker 1: because then doubt, you know, starts to creep in, you know,
Speaker 1: and I don't think doubt's creeped in for him yet,
Speaker 1: but you lose this game now, now doubt is staring
Speaker 1: you right in the face and that and that's that's
Speaker 1: a that's a hard thing to deal with. And it
Speaker 1: is a young team, but they've been work in way
Speaker 1: worse shape than this. Before three and five, everybody wrote
Speaker 1: them off. I think Jerry said it was a kin
Speaker 1: to like not having any money and being broke and
Speaker 1: knowing what that was like. And now you're in a
Speaker 1: position where now you've come into some money, and how
Speaker 1: do you respond to success? You know, hey, look at
Speaker 1: this from the perspective of the coaching staff too. I mean,
Speaker 1: if if they were to stumble down the stretch here
Speaker 1: the way this thing turned around from three and five
Speaker 1: to eight and five, and if they don't make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're back to where this was at three
Speaker 1: and five, you know, going into the off season. That's
Speaker 1: I mean, it's that's but that's where I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: That's offseason talk. Yeah, but that's end of season talk.
Speaker 1: I understand that. I understand that, and which puts the
Speaker 1: focus they have got to for everybody in this building.
Speaker 1: They have got to take care of business here. There's
Speaker 1: no question, there's no you can't have a you can't
Speaker 1: have it go any other way, and not because I've
Speaker 1: I believe, like I say, it's offseason talk. But if
Speaker 1: it comes to that, I don't think the decision will
Speaker 1: be very hard for them to make. That's me personally,
Speaker 1: if in fact it does. If in fact they don't
Speaker 1: get in the playoffs, because I thought all along that
Speaker 1: was going to be the case. But if they get
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, win the division and all that, then
Speaker 1: by all means is coaching staff should, you know, make
Speaker 1: whatever changes they have to make, you know, with their
Speaker 1: personnel or a coach here or there, but that that
Speaker 1: he deserves that opportunity to continue. But if in your scenario,
Speaker 1: if that happens, I don't think that decision would be
Speaker 1: that hard. It's it's just amazing how things change from
Speaker 1: week to week in this league. Absolutely, and it can.
Speaker 1: It were a win on Sunday at noon, it flips
Speaker 1: right back around and we're talking playoffs and what this
Speaker 1: team needs to do to win of the first round
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. Exactly. Every time we think we've got
Speaker 1: it figured out there three and five, nobody gives them
Speaker 1: a shot. They couldn't beat Jacksonville, they couldn't lose the
Speaker 1: Tennessee They couldn't beat the Saints. They can't possibly can
Speaker 1: win in Atlanta. Yeah, I mean, it's just when you
Speaker 1: think you've got it figured out, you don't, and so
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. It's still the odds are still
Speaker 1: heavily in their favor because the other two teams have
Speaker 1: to take care of business themselves in this division. But
Speaker 1: they just have to take care of business this week,
Speaker 1: and they want to go out and understake care of
Speaker 1: business in the fallow way because they play each other.
Speaker 1: Just just look at last night. I'll guarantee you the
Speaker 1: Saints have never thought a twelve to nine victory has
Speaker 1: been better than twelve to nine last night. You see
Speaker 1: the relief, Oh, no question their faces, the relief on
Speaker 1: Sean Payton's face. No, no one's going to be sitting
Speaker 1: there going god, we only scored twelve points, especially they won,
Speaker 1: especially with fumbling out of the back of the end
Speaker 1: zone and giving them a chance to Yeah, when all
Speaker 1: he had to do was fall down. Yeah, he didn't
Speaker 1: have to score a touchdown. He had a first down
Speaker 1: right there in the game's over. Yeah, relying on players
Speaker 1: that you don't usually rely on key situations. Talking about
Speaker 1: on the goal line with the Cowboys. Yeah, yeah, same thing,
Speaker 1: you know, and division games, Like Brian said, you never
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen in division games. When's the
Speaker 1: last time you've seen a two point conversion go the
Speaker 1: other way for two points turn the whole game around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: game was going to be over right, and Drew brees
Speaker 1: through into double triple coverage. And then Seattle they're sitting there.
Speaker 1: They take care of business against Minnesota and they go
Speaker 1: to San Francisco and they get beat. I mean, Seattle
Speaker 1: was was the team you don't want to play them
Speaker 1: in the playoffs of Carolina if we still may not
Speaker 1: want to play them, but still, I mean, they turn
Speaker 1: around and they lose the next week, and now they've
Speaker 1: got to play Kansas City and so they're fighting for
Speaker 1: their playoff lives now against the best team in the league.
Speaker 1: When's the last time we saw the Patriots without a
Speaker 1: top two seed? Which is the way it's headed right now.
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Speaker 1: You what exactly the comments from the Cowboys after the
Speaker 1: game about a loss, oh maybe being good for the team.
Speaker 1: I was. I had the same mail back question this morning.
Speaker 1: We had the same reaction you did. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: are you talking? A couple of them had to be
Speaker 1: talked into it. Let's see. That's what I was wondering.
Speaker 1: I was wondering what the context. He didn't say it
Speaker 1: on their own. The question came up, and I remember
Speaker 1: standing there next to Tyrone Crawford and somebody said, well,
Speaker 1: you know, is is this a good loss? It's hill
Speaker 1: angle and he kind of hemmed and hard and uh,
Speaker 1: just to get through the answer he went, and then
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, I guess I guess you know, it's
Speaker 1: a it's just gets a wake up call. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: I thought that that might be what some of it was.
Speaker 1: You know, they asked Dak and even right initially said no,
Speaker 1: and then he goes, well, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe we thought we were too hot to trot, you know.
Speaker 1: But but I don't have a problem with that. No,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have a problem with that answer.
Speaker 1: But I mean when you when you're talking about, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe a loss is good for us, that whatever makes
Speaker 1: you wonder what was the mindset going in? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we needed a wake up call. Yeah, because if you
Speaker 1: talk to everybody, they talked about what a great week
Speaker 1: of practice they had, right, Oh yeah, that's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. That was the whole The mindset was, Oh, no,
Speaker 1: this is we're ready to play this game. You know.
Speaker 1: I think they were ready to play this game. I
Speaker 1: just don't think they were physically ready to play this game. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Mentally they might have known what they needed to do,
Speaker 1: but physically they'd sure didn't. They didn't tackle well enough,
Speaker 1: they didn't get off blocks, they didn't block anybody. You know,
Speaker 1: when they had a chance to execute plays, they didn't
Speaker 1: execute plays. So is that is that a mental thing
Speaker 1: or is that a physical thing? I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of physical stuff going on right there. That team,
Speaker 1: the team and the with the horse show on their head,
Speaker 1: was more physical than you are. That's you know, that's
Speaker 1: where I think you tip your cap to the other team, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and you just move on. Well, look what they're they're
Speaker 1: in the same situation as you. They're trying I mean
Speaker 1: that they're not. They're trying to get into pluffs. You're
Speaker 1: trying to clinch the division, you know. And oh with
Speaker 1: still possibility though they might win every one of their
Speaker 1: games on the way and not get in. How about that, right,
Speaker 1: I mean they might get they might end up with
Speaker 1: ten and six and not get in the playoffs. And
Speaker 1: they started one one in five. Yeah, that just shows
Speaker 1: you right there. I mean, they made a hell of
Speaker 1: a rally, but that you know, that's that's why. That's
Speaker 1: why you go out and physically beat somebody up, because
Speaker 1: you're thinking, like, man, if we lose this game, we
Speaker 1: are done. And maybe the Cowboys didn't have that we
Speaker 1: are done mentality they had the previous five weeks, which
Speaker 1: they've had the previous five weeks. Absolutely, they were done
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, they were done in Atlanta, they were
Speaker 1: done in Philadelphia, twice. You know, Washington they were done
Speaker 1: and that Well it's back on them now, it's back
Speaker 1: on them. You do not want to go to New
Speaker 1: York and have to win a game. You just don't.
Speaker 1: You don't want to have. You don't know what the
Speaker 1: weather's gonna be. You don't know if they're gonna all
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, like Mickey says, they're gonna say, huh,
Speaker 1: let's get this rookie running back going here, Let's see
Speaker 1: if we can run this football a little bit. You
Speaker 1: don't want to have to go and play in that
Speaker 1: those conditions and try and win a game up there,
Speaker 1: especially against the division opponent, and guess what they'll they'll
Speaker 1: go into that last game if that happens, and the
Speaker 1: entire week they'll be asked. You know, for three years
Speaker 1: on a row Cowboys were in the same situation. If
Speaker 1: they win, they won the division, but lost all three.
Speaker 1: Why is this different? Well, none of those guys probably
Speaker 1: took place part in any of those three games. Maybe
Speaker 1: Lattice Sewer right, yeah, maybe, yeah, yeah, Smith, just go
Speaker 1: win this game. The rest of them got no idea,
Speaker 1: just go win them. They were in high school. Yeah, Brian,
Speaker 1: is that is the motto of week. Just go win
Speaker 1: this game. There's another T shirt for your trade market.
Speaker 1: Absolutely all right. That does it for a talking Cowboys
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