1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back in here too, Clay and Buck appreciate you 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: all being with us. We have some follow up on 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: yesterday's horrific shooting to bring to you. We just want 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: to make sure we're following the story closely, giving all 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: the details. And also, yes, of course this becomes an 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: issue of politics because the Democrats have rushed and blame 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: gun control, have rushed to mock prayer, and of course 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: to make sure that nobody thinks this has anything to 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: do with a trans arrangement syndrome situation that they're very 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: clear on that one, and I wanted to spend some 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: time on what is true here and what is really 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: going on with all of this. But I would first say, Clay, 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: fortunately my assessment that the news we were hearing out 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: of the hospitals was indicative of most, if not all 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: of there. I believe adults and children admitted for wounds 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: from the mass shooting, and there has been confirmation that 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: they all made it. So that is a blessing. And 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: I would note a lot of you were praying. I 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: know you, we were praying here on this show while 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: we were waiting for more news of four who were 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: in critical condition. Those are the ones we were of 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: course most concerned about, and the others who were stable. 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: But they're all going home to their families. That has 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: been confirmed. You know, we did lose we did lose 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: two children to the horrific terror attack, trans terror attack 26 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. But we also have to take the good 27 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: news where it comes and how we can. And the 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: good news is that those who are admitted to the 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: hospital wounds all made it, and you know, their families 30 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: are clearly overjoyed at that news. Despite all the tragedy 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: and the horror of what happened, there can be some 32 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: light in the darkness. So I wanted to note that 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: because we were discussing that and that was an important 34 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: update that you should all know. Also, there are stories 35 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: of the bravery and the love for one another from 36 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: the students from some of these teachers. Here is a 37 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: a fifth grader who says that his friend saved him 38 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: from this shooter play Cup one. 39 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: It was like right beside me. I was like two 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: seats away from the stage glass windows, so they were 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: like the shots were like right next to me. 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: Scary. Yeah, he went under after that. 43 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I got a gunpowder on my neck. Yeah, 44 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: when you heard the shots. 45 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: What went through your head? 46 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: I was like the first one, I was like, what 47 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: is that? I thought it was just something that I 48 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: heard it again, I just ran under the pew and 49 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: then I covered my head. My friend Victor like saved 50 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: me though, because he laid on top of me. But 51 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: he got hit. Your friend laid on top of you, Yeah, 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: and he got hit. 53 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: Is this something that you've practiced before? 54 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we we practiced it like every month or I 55 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: don't know, but yeah, we've We've never practiced it. 56 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: In the in the church though, His friend Clay covered 57 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: him with his own body during the shooting. Yeah. 58 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: Look there. 59 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 5: This is what I like to do when awful things happen. 60 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 5: I like to talk about the people who did the 61 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 5: right thing, and who were brave and who were courageous 62 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 5: and who made the choice to do everything that is, 63 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 5: uh what you would hope would happen. There's always people 64 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 5: who run towards the sound of gunfire and do whatever 65 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 5: they can to protect innocent people, and I think their 66 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 5: stories oftentimes get lost because we focus too much on 67 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 5: the killer, meaning one of the reasons I try to avoid. 68 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 5: Sometimes people don't like it. They send an email like 69 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 5: why don't you been named the killer as often as 70 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 5: because the data reflects that a lot of people, in 71 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 5: their sick minds are doing this to try to be famous. 72 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 5: That's what the Columbine guys did. They basically have created 73 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 5: an entire copycat arena of school shooters who all want 74 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 5: to be famous. They want their names to echo in infamy. 75 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 5: And I would rather tell the story as these kids' 76 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 5: stories come out. I would rather share stories of bravery 77 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 5: and courage and yes, sometimes mournful loss of the victims 78 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 5: than give the person who is Frankly, I think evil 79 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 5: and certainly motivated by a desire to have their evil 80 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 5: acts not only create infamy for themselves, but motivate others 81 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 5: to engage in acts of evil. And so I think 82 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 5: for all people of good conscience, it's important to shine 83 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 5: a bright light on positivity, good courage overcoming evil, as 84 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 5: it does every single day. So within that context, I 85 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 5: do think it's important to examine why this is happening. 86 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 5: What has occurred that in Nashville, Tennessee, my hometown, a 87 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 5: trans person would take a gun in and try to 88 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 5: kill innocent kids at a school that she attended, and 89 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 5: at a trans man would take a gun into the 90 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 5: school that he attended and try to kill Christians. And 91 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 5: I want to play a couple of these cuts, Buck, 92 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 5: because I think they're important. You all out there listening 93 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 5: to us right now are quite well informed on this story. 94 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 5: But I always think it's important for you to think 95 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 5: about what would you know if you were just not 96 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 5: listening to this show. And maybe you're not on social 97 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 5: media and you're not following people like Mary Margaret Olahan, 98 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 5: who we just talked with. You're not following Buck, You're 99 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 5: not following me. You are just kind of out there 100 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 5: in legacy media land. What would you hear? I want 101 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 5: to play a couple of these cuts. This is ABC News. 102 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 5: ABC News just had to pay sixteen million dollars to 103 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 5: settle a lawsuit with President Trump over Joan Stepanopolis calling 104 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 5: him a rapist inaccurately on television multiple times during an 105 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 5: interview with Nancy Mays. This is to me, not an error. 106 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 5: This is I want to get this guy's name. Aaron 107 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 5: Katterski reporting about the Minnesota shooter. Now, remember the Minnesota 108 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 5: shooter wrote on his gun, kill President Trump. Kill President Trump. 109 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 5: He is the furthest thing from a Trump supporter. You 110 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 5: could be imagine you didn't know that, you hadn't seen 111 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 5: that photo, you didn't have this information. This is what 112 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 5: ABC News viewers heard last night, and there are millions 113 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 5: of them in the report about this shooting. 114 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 4: Listen. 115 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 6: Twenty three year old Robin Westman was able to leave 116 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 6: what police called a video manifesto that they're now going 117 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 6: through to try and establish motive. We've also been going 118 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 6: through it and can tell you there are crude diagrams 119 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 6: of the church. There are also photos of the weapons, 120 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 6: and they include all sorts of writings, the names of 121 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 6: past mass shooters, criticism of Israel, the name of President 122 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 6: Trump written on the guns. 123 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: There are also racial slurs. 124 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 6: Nihilistic statements, all painting the picture of a disturbed individual 125 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 6: who carried out this mass shooting on the first week 126 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 6: of school at the Annunciation Church in Minneapolis. 127 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 5: Okay, how do you not say, if your goal is 128 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 5: to inform the public about the facts of a case, 129 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 5: how do you leave out that it was written kill 130 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 5: President Trump and add President Trump's name on the gun. Well, 131 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 5: if you're watching that, you could think, oh, that must 132 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 5: be a diehard Trump supporter. Oh this is one of 133 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 5: those crazy Trump supporters. He took a gun to a 134 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 5: school and he shot up the place. I do think 135 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 5: that this is incredible important and also Buck, I wanted 136 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 5: to play this, and I know the news reports are 137 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 5: using the person's name. 138 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: This is not us. 139 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 5: But in order to play this audio, I think it's 140 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 5: important for you to hear what they're saying. Jake Tapper 141 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 5: on CNN, they are continuing to be concerned about using 142 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 5: the right pronoun for a terrorist killer. This is what 143 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 5: you would have heard if you were watching CNN yesterday 144 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 5: during their coverage. 145 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 7: Cut five Minneapolis start Rebune just as another piece of 146 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 7: the puzzle as to who the shooter was, Minneapolis start 147 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 7: Abune says, according to court records, because there's been some 148 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 7: confusion about what the shooter's name was, Yes, Robin Westman's 149 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 7: mother applied to change your child's name in twenty nineteen. 150 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 7: It was at one point Robert Paul Westman. But since 151 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 7: she identifies as a female and wants her name to 152 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 7: reflect that identification was underage, it's now Robin Westman. 153 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 5: I mean, this is a mass delusion. When you have 154 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 5: a killer terrorist and on live television, you are worried 155 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 5: about using the direct pronoun of a trans terrorist. It's indefensible. 156 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: It's indefensible, it's Cowardice Tapper, I'm not surprised this is 157 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: he's always maneuvering within the corporate layers at CNN, because 158 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: it's not the audience that he works for, it's the 159 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: bosses writing the checks that he tries to cater to. 160 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: And with that in mind, you have to remember that 161 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: some of these media institutions, certainly at CNN, there are 162 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: people who are keeping score on pronoun usage. Maybe they're 163 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: doing it quietly, Clay, but they tend to work in 164 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: hr other places in the building as well, and they 165 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: will remember if you use the wrong pronoun, even for 166 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: a child murdering psychopath like this guy was, they will 167 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: remember that you don't bend the knee, and they will 168 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: try to exact revenge retribution on you career wise later on. 169 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: I still see people. 170 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: I just got an email a few days ago from 171 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: somebody about an unrelated matter to media. But you know, 172 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: an email with somebody else going to be work doing 173 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: work for me with pronouns in this in the signature. Yeah, 174 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: why why do you I want to ask this person? 175 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be honest, I want to ask why 176 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: why do you have pronouns in your in your email signature? 177 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: Do you think I don't know? You're clearly a woman. 178 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: Why are you telling me that you're a woman in 179 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: your email signature? Like I I'm I'm no longer just 180 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: passive about this. It's a bit like the mask thing. 181 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: By the way, I know you're gonna say, Buck, that's 182 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: a crazy turn. 183 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 4: It's really not. With COVID, initially it. 184 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: Was just just to do it because because it'll do 185 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: something and it'll make people feel better. And then we said, ah, 186 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess like some places, maybe I'll put 187 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: this on so you don't freak out. And then it 188 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: was you better do it or else I'll lock you up. 189 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: You better do this, or else I'll ban you from 190 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: public access to bars and restaurants and everything else. They're 191 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: buildings where you work. That's the same thing with a 192 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: pronoun thing. It starts out it's, oh, it's just a courtesy, 193 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: and then once they get a critical mass, it's do 194 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: this or you lose your job. So don't ever fore 195 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: get the slippery slope is real. Slippery slope is almost undefeated, 196 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: and the slippery slope with his trans maadness stuff is 197 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: absolutely real and established, and finally it has started to 198 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: move in the other direction where yeah, you know, I'm 199 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: sick of saying it too. Of course you treat trans 200 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: people with kindness. They just treat them like human beings, 201 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: because they are human beings. But you know, Clay, if 202 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: I walked around telling everybody you have to call me Emperor, 203 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: Lord of the universe, sexton, I'm sorry. People don't have 204 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: to do that. That doesn't make them a bad person, 205 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: because I'm not Emperor, Lord of the Universe, sexton. And 206 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: just because somebody wants to demand something from you, it 207 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they can say, because of courtesy, you have 208 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: to go along with it. Never mind, as Trump says, 209 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: the seven foot guys were like, I want to play 210 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: women's basketball now. 211 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 4: No, No, Why you don't get. 212 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 5: To Why should you get to pick your pronouns anymore 213 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 5: than you get to pick your adjectives. Let me tell 214 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 5: you something may stun some of you. 215 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: People call me. 216 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 5: Some pretty tough things on social media. Some people are 217 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 5: even maybe even a little bit mean. I don't get 218 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 5: to say, hey, sorry, my preferred adjectives are handsome, brilliant, 219 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 5: Like I don't get to tell you how you define me. Well, right, 220 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 5: what if somebody, Clay, what if you were sitting down 221 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 5: with an interview and said, we'll take this in the 222 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 5: sports world for a second. You sat down with somebody 223 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 5: who is, you know, an NFL player, and he's like, 224 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 5: I would prefer that you refer to me as Heisman 225 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 5: Trophy winner so and so. Yeah, and you look at 226 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 5: him and you go, but you didn't win a Heisman Trophy. 227 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. 228 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: Are you being discourteous or are you just not living 229 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: in a delusion? 230 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 5: I think again, reasonable people have to stand up and 231 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 5: say we're not going to play this game anymore. And 232 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 5: even beyond that, how do the Democrats back out of this? 233 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 4: By the way, how does that? 234 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: Because I think they're stuck. I think this is the 235 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: problem they've rout into. They they're just waiting until they 236 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: have enough power again to ram it all down our 237 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: throats again. That's the game. The game is not to 238 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: actually retreat. 239 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 5: I'll give you my answer. I think gay people need 240 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 5: to say we're not a part of this group anymore. 241 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 5: And I know we got a lot of gay people 242 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 5: out there listening to us right now, and I know 243 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 5: some of you have felt this for some time. There 244 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 5: is a pretty big difference between saying, hey, I'm attracted 245 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 5: to the same sex and hey, I am a different. 246 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: Gender than what all of us know to be true. 247 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 5: I'll even say, back in the day, back in we 248 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 5: had people transvestite, right like you dressed up potentially as 249 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 5: someone you weren't. You didn't claim you didn't claim that 250 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 5: you were actually that. And I think a lot of 251 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 5: gay people, frankly are looking around and saying like, hey, 252 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 5: you know. 253 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 4: I'm fine with the l's, the g's, the b's. 254 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 5: This is that this is the Dave Chappelle sketch where 255 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 5: he got a lot of grief from the last I 256 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 5: think I think that to you answer your question, I 257 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 5: think that gay people have to start saying, hey, this 258 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 5: is not really our struggle. Our struggle was, Hey, we 259 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 5: want to be able to have basic human rights, We 260 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 5: want to be able to live as we believe we 261 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 5: should be able to live. But you don't have to 262 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 5: have surgery to try to artificially create yourself if you 263 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 5: are gay. And I think a lot of gay people 264 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 5: just need to say there's a difference here. This whole 265 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 5: identity politics has created. Pardon the pun, a lot of 266 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 5: very strange bedfellows. 267 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: Right. 268 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 5: A lot of black people out there are actually very 269 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 5: conservative and go to church all the time, and they're 270 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 5: looking around and they're like, this trans thing is crazy. 271 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 5: I don't think dudes should be able to win women's championships. 272 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 5: Why am I in the same party as them? I 273 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 5: think identity politics has to explode and all the individuals 274 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 5: have to make rational decisions regardless of your race, your gender, 275 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 5: or your ethnicity. And you have to be willing to 276 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 5: speak truth. And a man is not a woman and 277 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 5: a woman is not a man. If they can get 278 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 5: you to lie about that, they can get you to 279 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 5: lie about anything. And they took advantage of kindness, particularly 280 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 5: of women. I'm sorry, women are kinder in general than men. 281 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 5: Notice men, there is no Dylan mulvaney. There's no man. 282 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 5: There's no woman who used to be a man that 283 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 5: men are like, this is the man of the year. 284 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 4: We just don't do it. 285 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 5: Women got taken advantage of I think women and gay 286 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 5: people need to say this is not right. 287 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: We're done with it. That's my answer. 288 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: So gold has been valuable for a long time. Think 289 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: about history, Think about what is the most basic unit 290 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: of money for thousands of years that people will consider 291 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Oh well, gold, Gold has always been valid. If you 292 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: have gold coins, people will trade those for stuff because 293 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: gold is good and valuable. Now, look at the last 294 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: ten years, ten years. I just put this into an 295 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: a into AI to give me a sense of what 296 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: the numbers are. Gold has had about a one hundred 297 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: and eighty eight percent return over the last ten years. 298 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: That's pretty good, isn't it. In fact, over just the 299 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: last year, gold has gone up about forty percent. So 300 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: this is pretty straightforward, my friends. The thesis here is 301 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: gold is valuable. Gold over time increases in value, and 302 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: you should have some gold as part of your portfolio. Now, 303 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: I understand Trump's doing amazing things with the economy. It's 304 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: very easy to kind of rest on Trump's laurels here 305 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: and say, well, we're gonna look at the trade deals 306 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: and look at all these things. 307 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great. 308 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: Trump's only got a few years in office, and I'm 309 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: trying to get you prepared for your finances and your 310 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: future for ten, fifteen, twenty years from now, and gold 311 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: as a part of that plan just makes sense. A 312 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: part of the plant. It's not the whole planet's a 313 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: part of the plant. It's a way to balance your 314 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: portfolio and to protect some of your savings. I'm a 315 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: gold holder and I have been for over a decade. 316 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: I recommend you call my friends at the Birch Gold Group. 317 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: You reach out to them, because they are the best 318 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: at getting you real physical gold at home. They've sent 319 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: it right to my home. I've had this done so easy, 320 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: and they want to have long term gold buyers who 321 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: believe in the thesis. They want long term gold closellience, 322 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: and it's so easy to get started with them. Text 323 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: my name Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. 324 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: Birch Gold will send you a free infoKit on gold. 325 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: Text my name Buck, text Buck to ninety eight ninety 326 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: eight ninety eight and Birch Gold to send you that 327 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: free infokd on gold. And just remember they can also 328 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: easily convert an existing IRA or four oh one K 329 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: into attack sheltered IRA and physical gold. Maybe you have 330 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: an old job, you got fifteen twenty fifty thousand dollars 331 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: in that IRA or that four oh one K. Rather, 332 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: they can transition that into gold for you and then 333 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: you're just watching as gold increases in value over time. 334 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: Text my name Buck to ninety eight, ninety eight, ninety eight. 335 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 8: Today stories are freedom stories of America, inspirational stories that 336 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 8: you unite us. 337 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 4: All each day. 338 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 8: Spend time with Clay and find them on the free 339 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 8: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 340 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 5: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 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That's t 356 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 5: the number two, t Dot org. 357 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 8: Sleeve, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth. 358 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 4: Welcome back in everybody to Clay and Buck. 359 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: We are joined now by Lieutenant Governor Winsome Earl Sears, 360 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: the first woman elected governor, first black woman and female 361 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: veteran to hold statewide office in Virginia. A fantastic patriot 362 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: who is doing wonderful things in the great state of Virginia, 363 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: which is a place I've spent a tremendous amount of 364 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: time actually over the years. O, Tenant Governor, appreciate you 365 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 1: being with us. 366 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 9: Well, hello, and thank you for having me. Now, I 367 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 9: do have to correct you on one thing. I'm not 368 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 9: yet the first female governor. I'm the first female lieutenant governor. 369 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 9: That's a good thing too. 370 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, well, yes, but you're going to be the 371 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 1: first female governor, right, tell us about it? 372 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 9: Well, there, that is, yes, And it's why because we 373 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 9: have the common sense ideas, what do I be Well, 374 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 9: it's a good questions that I think I just did. Well, 375 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 9: it's because again, we have been able to present an 376 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 9: economy to the people of Virginia and they love it. 377 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 9: They love that we have created so many jobs. You know, 378 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 9: two hundred and seventy six thousand people working that aren't 379 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 9: before we came in the office. We also have over 380 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 9: two hundred and fifty thousand job opening and then we've 381 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 9: created on top of that, fifteen thousand plus new business 382 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 9: startups never existed. How can you do that? Because you 383 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 9: get rid of barriers, you get rid of regulations, then 384 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 9: you become people who want Virginia to succeed. So my 385 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 9: opponent says, now she's running on our successes. Wait, you're 386 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 9: a Democrat running on the successes that we created. You're 387 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 9: not going to keep them if you win, which she won't. 388 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 9: But if she were to win, she would dismantle and 389 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 9: destroy everything that we've created. So she's got the problem, 390 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 9: not me. We've been doing the work. Abigail, where have 391 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 9: you been? 392 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 5: We're talking to win some seers. Lieutenant governor of Virginia 393 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 5: who hopes and should be the next governor. I saw 394 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 5: some of these, some of these statements from Abigail Spanberger, 395 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 5: who is the Democrat nominee on men and women's sports, 396 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 5: and she dodged the question like she was neo and 397 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 5: the matrix. I mean, she is doing everything she can 398 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 5: do to avoid saying what is very easy for everybody 399 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 5: ninety plus percent. I think of actual sports fans, even 400 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 5: two thirds of Democrats. Hey, men have no business in 401 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 5: women's sports. I saw your ad. I loved it. You're 402 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 5: nailing her on this, But isn't it about just how 403 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 5: out of touch she is with Virginia that she can't 404 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 5: speak the truth on this. 405 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 9: Well, everything about her is out of touch and none 406 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 9: of it makes any sense. You know, here are the 407 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 9: parents wanting to raise their boys to respect women, to 408 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 9: honor women. And then we have, for examples of Outen 409 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 9: County school Board who have disciplined the two young men 410 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 9: because they are uncomfortable being forced to undress in front 411 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 9: of a female, and for that they are now labeled 412 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 9: sexual in their school records, sexual harassers. But this is 413 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 9: what their parents have been raising them. 414 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: To be, to respect women. 415 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 9: So you have now school boards who are against parents. 416 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 9: And Abigail Stanberger supports that because she voted for men 417 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 9: of biological men in women's sports. She voted for biological 418 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 9: men having to be able to undress in locker rooms 419 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 9: with our young girls. She voted for all this nonsense. 420 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 9: And that's crazy because she's got three girls. What is 421 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 9: that what you want for your girl children? Parents don't 422 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 9: want that. I wouldn't want that. She needs to come 423 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 9: forward and defend defend her votes. She voted that way. 424 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 9: Virginia doesn't want that. And that's why I'm asking Virginia 425 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 9: for your vote this coming November so we can continue 426 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 9: with common sense and not policies that tear us away 427 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 9: from our children. 428 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 5: Lieutenant Governor Wins some seis with us right now. This 429 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 5: story just broke on OutKick and it goes directly into 430 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 5: the state of Virginia, and I'm betting that Abigail Spanberger 431 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 5: is going to be dodging it. In addition to Roanoke 432 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 5: women swimmers and Louden County, as you mentioned, in twenty 433 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 5: twenty two, Virginia Tech female swimmers protested Leah Thomas, who 434 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 5: was a man pretending to be a woman swimming for 435 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 5: the University of Pennsylvania women's swim team. They reached out 436 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 5: to ESPN begged for ESPN to tell the story of 437 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 5: their protest. 438 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 4: ESPN refused to cover it. 439 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 5: So it's not just Abigail Spanberger, it's also there have 440 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 5: been a lot of legacy media outlets that have refused 441 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 5: to speak truth here, and now they're trying to run 442 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 5: cover for your opponent. I think this is really significant. 443 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 5: I know it matters a great deal to our audience. 444 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 5: But how protected is the legacy media trying to keep 445 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 5: your opponents so she doesn't have to answer questions about 446 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 5: her failures on this issue. 447 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 9: Oh so they started a long time ago by not 448 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 9: even asking any questions of me. They would just pretend 449 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 9: I didn't exist. I mean I would walk by them 450 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 9: and they would not say a word. They would have 451 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 9: microphones in everybody else's face, and it was as if 452 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 9: I didn't exist. 453 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: I mean I have been. 454 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 9: The headliner, the keynote speaker at events. You know, I'm 455 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 9: a United States Marine Corps veteran, and I would be 456 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 9: at a Veterans Affairs honoring veterans events, and they would 457 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 9: not even say that I was there, even though I 458 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 9: was a keynote speaker. Never even said I was in 459 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 9: the audience, never even put my picture in, but always 460 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 9: talked about everybody else around me. So they've been dismissing 461 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 9: me for some time now because they saw me coming 462 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 9: and they knew that she would be in trouble. Abigail 463 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 9: Spamberg and they want her to win. And you know, 464 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 9: here's a problem with that. I grew up partly in Jamaica, 465 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 9: which at the time was suffering from socialist policies and 466 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 9: the media put their finger on the scale for other 467 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 9: people who eventually ended up destroying what little economy we 468 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 9: had because socialism, you know, you can't ever do it 469 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 9: right and put Jamaica's economy in a tail spin. And 470 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 9: I can't believe that that's the same thing I'm seeing here. 471 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 9: But we're going to win because you know, you can't 472 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 9: hold righteousness down and when you're on the right side 473 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 9: of an issue where common sense is common sense, and 474 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 9: where I even have now Democrats who are coming up 475 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 9: to me and saying, I'm a Democrat, but I'm going 476 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 9: to vote for you because I don't want my girl 477 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 9: children having to undress in front of full frontal noodle boys. 478 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 9: I mean, think about we're creating sexual trauma. Sexual Do 479 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 9: we not have enough trauma in the world. 480 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: No, it's not fragious, Lieutenant Governor s Heares. I want 481 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: to ask if you do become the governor, and we're 482 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: obviously rooting for you, pushing for you, and hopeful that 483 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: this is going to happen. Virginia is such a great state, 484 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: the northern part of your state. Some of the politics 485 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: they are not my favorite. I'm just saying the right. 486 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: When you get in the the edge of DC, you 487 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: got some people that well, you need to reach out 488 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 1: to them and convince them of the error of you know, 489 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: Arlington's ways. But Virginia otherwise a fantastic and wonderful state. 490 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: I actually have a family that was from Virginia and 491 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: still lives there. I want to know what you're going 492 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: to do if you become the governor. What will you 493 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: continue on from the very successful tenure of Governor Youngkin 494 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: And what would be some of the things that the 495 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: great residents of the Commonwealth would be able to look 496 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: forward to. 497 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 9: So one of the things I'm going to do, unlike 498 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 9: my opponent, is I'm going to continue to keep Virginia safe. 499 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 9: I'm going to support our law enforcement, Department of Corrections personnel. 500 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 9: We're not going to get rid of their qualified immunity. 501 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 9: We're not going to defund them. You know who will 502 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 9: My opponent, Abigail Stamberger, because she has said and she 503 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 9: has taken money from wait for it, that defund the 504 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 9: police pack you can't take. She's taken thousands from them, 505 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 9: so you know, it's not like we don't know what 506 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 9: she's going to do. So we need our police, right, 507 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 9: we need everybody there because I can't even talk about 508 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 9: safety and security. I can't talk about jobs being created, 509 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 9: taxes being low if we're not safe and secure. Right, 510 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 9: So that's the first thing I'm going to do. And 511 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 9: you probably saw it yesterday where she came out and 512 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 9: said she was one of the first things, first things 513 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 9: that she was going to do is precisely get rid 514 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 9: of our safety and security because she's going to stop 515 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 9: all these ice detainers where we have now found four 516 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 9: thousand criminal illegal aliens in Virginia, including the number three 517 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 9: top head of MS thirteen, and they are in various 518 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 9: states of incarceration and deportation. She's going to stop that. 519 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 9: I mean, who is this woman? Where did we get 520 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 9: her from? Well, she can't be governor. The next thing 521 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 9: people want is that they want their taxes back in 522 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 9: their pockets. And we've restored what nine billion dollars back 523 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 9: into the pockets of Virginia's taxpayers. We have run a 524 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 9: ten billion dollars service plus for each of the for 525 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 9: the entire time that we've been in office, and we're 526 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 9: going to keep creating jobs. We're going to keep getting 527 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 9: rid of regulations. We're gonna have the energy that they need. 528 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 9: We're going to have shovel ready sights. We're going to 529 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 9: keep their inventories and their employees safe. Jobs will flood in, 530 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 9: and well you will see. We will continue our great 531 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 9: economic successes, whereas my opponent is going to tax them 532 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 9: to death. She's going to put regulations back on them, 533 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 9: and she's going to force every single employee, even if 534 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 9: they don't want to, to join a union. That for me, 535 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 9: is an issue of liberty. So people know what they're 536 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 9: gonna get with me. It's all common sense, money in 537 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 9: your pocket, jobs and safety. There you go. She doesn't 538 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 9: know how to do this. She was never there when 539 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 9: we were creating any of this good stuff. She was 540 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 9: in Congress taking stupid votes against us, and now she's 541 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 9: trying to backtrack, but she's not even back. She's like 542 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 9: plus to towny Phil. We haven't seen her in a lot. 543 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 9: Where have you been? What's the gill? You can't lead 544 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 9: from behind? 545 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Governor Sears, appreciate you very much, and please come 546 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: back and talk to us, either right before your victory 547 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: or right after. 548 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 9: You can choose whensofgovernor dot com. Please go to my 549 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 9: website whin some forgovernor dot com and help me. 550 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 4: Yes, hel co helper guys and gals. 551 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: We need to make sure we have a good governor 552 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: in Virginia and uh and things are certainly trending in 553 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: the right direction there politically, all right. Look, no matter 554 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: where you live, there's always a chance you become a 555 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: victim of a robbery, the last thing we'd wish on you, 556 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: but the fact remains, it's kind of stuff still happens 557 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: all over the country. So you need to be able 558 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: to protect yourself and you want to be proactive. 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That's 577 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: eight four four eight two four safe. 578 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 4: You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. We 579 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 4: claim your sanity with Clay and Fun. 580 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 8: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 581 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 8: get your podcasts. 582 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 5: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are 583 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 5: rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. A bunch 584 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 5: of comments rolling in. Let me read some of the emails. Tristan, Hey, guys, 585 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 5: longtime listener, first time reaching out. I'm forty years old, 586 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 5: gay mail. I agree one hundred percent that I do 587 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 5: not identify with this current LGBTQ alphabet community I'm a 588 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 5: gay man. I don't agree at all with any of 589 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 5: the trans issues except for that they should be treated 590 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 5: like human beings. But I'm not going to be holding 591 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 5: onto their delusion one hundred percent agree. Another email just 592 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 5: heard you on the radio talking about how gay men 593 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 5: and women should push back, not just gay meen. I 594 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 5: think Buck asked a question. I think it's a really 595 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 5: good question. How do we break sort of the national 596 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 5: fever of delusion as it pertains to the trans related issues? 597 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 5: And I said, we have to break identity politics overall, 598 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 5: so people stop thinking about this as a group issue 599 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 5: and just look at it individually, whether you're gay, straight, black, white, Asian, Hispanic, 600 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 5: whatever you want to be. But I said, the gay 601 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 5: community breaking away from the alphabet mafia here and saying, hey, 602 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 5: this is not reflective of us. So, just to be clear, 603 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 5: you said it perfectly. Well, I appreciate that this isn't 604 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 5: our fight. Trans is not our fight. I'm a gay man. 605 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 5: God maybe that God does not make mistakes. Okay, Lisa 606 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 5: in Florida, Now this maybe tough. 607 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 4: Lisa. You say your son is trans, So how old 608 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 4: is he now? 609 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: Forty? When this started like seventeen. 610 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 4: Okay, so. 611 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 5: This is and obviously, look, there are the vast majority 612 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 5: of trans kids out there are not going to turn 613 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 5: into school shooters, right, so we're not saying this is 614 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 5: directly connected. But when did your kid start to receive treatment. 615 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 3: A treatment for wanting to become trans? 616 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 4: Yes? 617 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so well the school jumped in there and started 618 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: doing the counseling right there, the college he was going to, 619 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 3: and it only take they take two psychiatrists to get 620 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 3: it approved, and both of them have said, oh sure, 621 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 3: so seventeen eighteen nineteen, and then in the twenties, we 622 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 3: you know, changed first name, last name, not we, not me, 623 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: and the next thing I know, this is who I 624 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: am and you have to call me this, which I 625 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 3: have to this day, not and still respected. You know, 626 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 3: the boundaries. That's your life, if that's what you want 627 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: to do. Okay. But at the same time, in his 628 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: curtains so radical and I got this whole schmill too, 629 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 3: even from him. Would you rather have a good child 630 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 3: or a transgender. 631 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: The horrible blackmail line emotional blackmail line they use against 632 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: parents all across the country. 633 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 4: Lisa, do you feel like do you feel like. 634 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: The college trends if you will your on is that 635 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: your belief or I mean, how much of a role 636 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: do you think they played. 637 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 3: That that was if you could have seen the councor 638 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: that was in there with me, you know, And she's 639 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 3: trying to me, well, she says, she says, I'm like, no, 640 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: she is not, because I've seen her go from the 641 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 3: bedroom to the bathroom and drop the towel, so parts 642 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 3: are still where they are. But at the same time, 643 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: I told your screener, who's very compassionate, I told my 644 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 3: husband last night because it has gotten so far out 645 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 3: of hand and it's so radical and his whole personality 646 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 3: and I mean, this is a kid that grew up 647 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 3: in you know, Christian church and enjoyed it and loved it. 648 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 3: Not anymore. And I don't know how to describe the feeling. 649 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 3: But I told my husband last night, I said. 650 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: He has your son had the full Lisa, like the surgeries. 651 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 5: No, what about drug treatment, the hormones all those things? 652 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, yes, we've got boobs everything. 653 00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 5: Yes, So how has that changed his behavior? And I 654 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 5: guess that's part one, Part two. What would you want 655 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 5: other parents out there who might be dealing with this 656 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 5: to know from your perspective. 657 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 3: Well, it immediately started changing the personality and then actually 658 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 3: he even admitted it and it also started changing just 659 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: helped issues overall. But the other things don't buy into 660 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: that because it gets so far fetched and so deep 661 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 3: into it. I told my husband last night, I don't 662 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 3: know if he would actually you've gotten so bitter, and 663 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 3: they feed into it and make it worse. I don't 664 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 3: know that he wouldn't go out and do something like this. 665 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 3: I can't tell you that, and it's horrible if this 666 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 3: is going to sound I don't know how to say this, 667 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: and this is going to sound horrible. But if I 668 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 3: thought that something would happen to my son committing suicide 669 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 3: and he would still go to heaven, I would be 670 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: better living with that than knowing that he went out 671 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 3: and killed children or anybody for that matter. I don't 672 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 3: even know if that makes sense. 673 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 5: I appreciate I appreciate you calling in and sharing this 674 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 5: because I think what it goes to is and thank 675 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 5: you so much, and certainly a lot of people are 676 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 5: are going to pray for you, Lisa. But I think 677 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 5: what it goes to buck is the emotional blackmail that 678 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 5: this puts families through that is rooted in a lie, 679 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,959 Speaker 5: and I just I'm sorry. I don't think that any 680 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 5: of these kids are getting better, right, That you're not 681 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 5: getting a better son or daughter than you already had, 682 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 5: And it's putting families through the ringer, right. 683 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: I imagine if you sat down with somebody, Clay, who 684 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: was a serious drug addict, and their response to you 685 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: was either tell me that drugs are good, or I 686 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: might commit suicide. That's what's going on here. There's no 687 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: choice for these parents.