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Speaker 1: What do you think about the Cardinals filming the Pat

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Speaker 1: p Void with Malcolm Butler? You know, I think that

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Speaker 1: you know that Pat Pee had a lot on his shoulders.

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Speaker 1: I mean he earned it. He earned it when the

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Speaker 1: first couple of years that he was here, he was

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Speaker 1: absolutely STU across the board, and then a couple of

432
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Speaker 1: things happened. I don't know what, you know, his his

433
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Speaker 1: relationship or his play on the field wasn't as a

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Speaker 1: spectacle as it needed to be. I talked to Pat

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Speaker 1: p probably, I played golf with him, probably about two

436
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Speaker 1: weeks ago, of course, but there was a change that

437
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Speaker 1: needed to happen. Whether it was with the organization on him,

438
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: but it was a change that need to happen. So

439
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: and that's a good thing. Sometimes sometimes you get into

440
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Speaker 1: places and you know you need those changes. We're placing

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Speaker 1: them with Malcolm Butler. We said, this earlier experience sometimes

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Speaker 1: makes a big difference. Malcolm Butler is a you know,

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Speaker 1: world champ, he's a Super Bowl champ, and he's got

444
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: some he's got some, he's got some learned, he's learned

445
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Speaker 1: a lot how to play the game, how to get

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Speaker 1: ready for Sunday competition, and sometimes having that experience. Um,

447
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: in that position, you're just removing a name, but your

448
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Speaker 1: brain experienced. So in that in that, in that regards,

449
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: everyone has to take ownership. How about this here, maybe

450
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Speaker 1: some guys were slacking because we had Pat P or

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Speaker 1: Patrick pat we calling pat P pat P on the

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Speaker 1: other side. Maybe they was giving them too much room,

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Speaker 1: maybe they was taking maybe they was guts and gambling

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Speaker 1: and they wasn't protective because that's Pat P. Well you

455
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Speaker 1: get a Malcolm Butler everyone and now has to take

456
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Speaker 1: ownership of the position and that comes you know, that's

457
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Speaker 1: that's a good thing because now our defense has to actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, some of these guys got to take ownership

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Speaker 1: of what happened last year and uh and then actually

460
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Speaker 1: and actually step up some table how to goal on

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Speaker 1: the golf course? You versus Pat By the way, did

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Speaker 1: you lighten his vikings contract a little bit, Frank, I

463
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Speaker 1: feel into the pocket a little bit, but he didn't

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Speaker 1: stay long. He went out and worked out that morning

465
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Speaker 1: and then we called him. He came in and his

466
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: back was locked up. He said he had been training

467
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: with a weight vest on and uh it showed on

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Speaker 1: his first swing. I played with Patrick at his at

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Speaker 1: his at his touches of a couple of times up

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Speaker 1: at the rim, and uh love. The guy can play golf.

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Speaker 1: He's a flat out two handicap, without a doubt. But

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Speaker 1: the other day he just he played like he was

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Speaker 1: a twelve. And I needed all that money, and he

474
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Speaker 1: and he and he supposedly taught himself off YouTube videos.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's criminal how athletic pat p is. We'll

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Speaker 1: come back with Frank Sanders and speak in a corner

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Speaker 1: if you think the Cardinals still need one. Should they

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Speaker 1: go the veteran route free agency? Should they go the

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Speaker 1: rookie route in the first round. That's next on the

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Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert The

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Speaker 1: Fake steps up, dances around, dodges, around rolls and down

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Speaker 1: the Villas Cup by Sanders clun the forty to the

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Speaker 1: thirty to the twenty five, plun the twenty, still dodging people,

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Speaker 1: knocked down on the fifteen yard line. Sanders makes some

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Speaker 1: one handed stab on a fifty eight yard pass play.

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Speaker 1: Plumber steps back, Plumbers gonna get knocked down. Oh hell,

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Speaker 1: off to the right side of Morrell, and Morrell takes

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Speaker 1: it in its scores Eightman winds up, rolls the ball

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Speaker 1: deep in the middle of the field. It is intercepted

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Speaker 1: back to the thirty. Five of the thirty goes Tommy

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Speaker 1: Bennett on the twenty, on the fifteen, on the ten,

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Speaker 1: on the five, he's knocked down on the Cowboy two,

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Speaker 1: and you can turn out the lights in Dallas. This

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Speaker 1: one's over. Bring on the Vikings. And one about those

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Speaker 1: wild Cards. No one gave them a chance to win

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Speaker 1: this football game. The wild Cards with a wild Card

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Speaker 1: win circa nineteen ninety eight playoffs at Dallas. I was there, Wolf,

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Speaker 1: There were all the Cowboy fans left Texas Stadium. Who

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Speaker 1: was about two hundred Card fans beyond the Cardinals bench

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Speaker 1: celebrating that victory. Frank Sanders a huge part of that win.

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Speaker 1: A huge season for Frank Sanders that year, Wolf. He

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Speaker 1: led the NFC in receptions with eighty nine, he had

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Speaker 1: over eleven hundred yards, receiving thirteen yards a catch. He's

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Speaker 1: our guest tonight on the Big Red Rage presented by

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Speaker 1: santan Ford and Gilbert. And what do you remember about

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Speaker 1: that win? Real quick, Frank, give it. Give us a

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Speaker 1: memory on that one, because you had beaten Dallas a

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Speaker 1: year before ninety seven. That was the game where the

509
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Speaker 1: goalpost came down and then left some double stadium when

510
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: down Mill Avenue ended up in the Salt river bed.

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Speaker 1: But what about the playoff win at Dallas on the

512
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Speaker 1: team personally Unius Williams and his speech before losing the huddle,

513
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Speaker 1: you guys get a chance to go back to that.

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Speaker 1: He kept screaming who Whitney because he kept said, we

515
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: gotta take time, you know, the giant and he was

516
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Speaker 1: using a biblical reference of David and Goliath, and he

517
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Speaker 1: was like, oh Whitney, Who Whitney? And everybody's kept saying

518
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Speaker 1: we are So I thought that was you know something

519
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Speaker 1: about it? Sometimes the special moments like that, wi you

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Speaker 1: in the huddle and the team comes up together and

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00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: guys say certain things that kind of catch you off guard,

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00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: but it resonates in your soul. We went out and

523
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: played our butts off, but I can honestly tell you

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Speaker 1: what to a great moment was. And we came back

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Speaker 1: and we landed on that on the tart Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I see the Cardinal fans that was there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it just it gives chills to me right now. It

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Speaker 1: makes you want to tear up because I think that

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Speaker 1: sometimes you get you get the moment of how big

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Speaker 1: the moment really is. You know, you just sometimes you

531
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Speaker 1: know what it means while you're playing, use your job,

532
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: you're playing, but the people that's rooting for you and

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00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: the fans are really who makes what makes you know,

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Speaker 1: what makes the game what it is. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I was I'm a fan of the game, so I'm

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00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: a little I'm like the kid at heart and it

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00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: keeps us at heart. And I think that when we

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Speaker 1: land on that tarpet, to see the fans that was

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00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: out there, and the flags and the Cardinals and the

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00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: big red Raizors out there, it was pretty Ah, that

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Speaker 1: was pretty amazing. Frankie, we gotta get into the draft

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Speaker 1: here quickly. But as a formal player, I have to

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Speaker 1: ask you this, what do you miss the most Mondays? Right?

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Speaker 1: That's good, because that's good Monday. You know what, I

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00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: honestly that you miss Mondays. Monday is payday with definitely

546
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: when you get out of the game, you realize what

547
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: a real check looks like. What the NFL check. That's

548
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: monopoly money all the way across the board. But you

549
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: know what I missed. I missed running routes. I missed

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Speaker 1: its running routes against air um with the quarterback coming,

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Speaker 1: you know, throwing the ball. And there's something about the

552
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: NFL ball that transitions from the college ball real quick.

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00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: You know, we don't have that stripe, but every every

554
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: now and then that new ball looks like this orb

555
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: and a spear coming after you. And it sometimes it's dark,

556
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: its round, it has that red you know that that

557
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: that pig skin, little reddish color on it, and everybody

558
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: tries to wipe that stuff off. But I missed running

559
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: routes because that right there is it's like it's like ballet.

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00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: It's like dancing in the mirror yourself do something pretty special,

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Speaker 1: So I do. I missed the route running because that's

562
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Speaker 1: my art, and I think that is the essence of

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00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: what a receiver is supposed to be. As a route runner,

564
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: but he has also catch. I always say, if you

565
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: run a route so pretty you don't catch the ball,

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Speaker 1: you might as we go run track. It's awesome. And

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00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: of course on game day it's not against Ared's against

568
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: the corners. And as I said, going to break, I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: if the Cardinals are still going to add a cornerback,

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Speaker 1: you tell us, you know, are you thinking veteran corner

571
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: right now or are you targeting that guy in the

572
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Speaker 1: first round number sixteen overall? And if so, you know,

573
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: how much can you count on a rookie corner? What

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Speaker 1: would you say to that? Because even Pat P wasn't

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Speaker 1: Pat P his rookie year, right. Um, you know, I

576
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: think that there is something a cornerback in the draft

577
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: is a hit of miss situation because he has to

578
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: come in and he you know, he can't get exposed

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Speaker 1: really fast. Ron know, like most most of the time,

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Speaker 1: this is the themb one thing in the NFL that

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Speaker 1: they come to try to take is your confidence that's

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Speaker 1: in practice, and they can still your confidence in practice.

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Speaker 1: We know one hundred percent you're gonna stink it up

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Speaker 1: in the game. So you got to have a core

585
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: cornerback that is confident whether he is getting beat or not.

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Speaker 1: But he's confident enough to learn the game where he

587
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: can come out and he can overcome some of his failures.

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Speaker 1: But he has the athletic ability and the mentality to

589
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Speaker 1: want to get better. You have to have that in

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Speaker 1: the draft. And sometimes that's why I say cornerbacks are

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Speaker 1: hit him in situation, because you can get on a

592
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Speaker 1: football field and just get dotted up the entire day,

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Speaker 1: and once they're still your confidence, you know you're gonna

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Speaker 1: need the psych character to get that back. So I

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Speaker 1: would like to see us go continually bring experience in

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Speaker 1: that allows us to have competition. I mean, of course

597
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: the league has changed drastically because guys are not really

598
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Speaker 1: practicing as much. But I like competition, and I think

599
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: sometimes an experience guy brings that because he's hungry too,

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Speaker 1: and he wants that position. And if you get that,

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Speaker 1: I think that will help us. I think that help

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Speaker 1: us a little bit more. Frankie, do you think it's

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Speaker 1: an easier to come in as a rookie warner and

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Speaker 1: contribute more though than let's say a rookie wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I think it depends on the expectation of the coach,

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00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: and I have to use that, you know, sparingly, because

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Speaker 1: you know, if you if you Bill Belichick, you know

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00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: you on special teams. I don't care what kind of

609
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: start here are you on special teams? So rookie cornerback

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00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: typically if he doesn't, if he's not the guy that

611
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: comes in and he's not the starter, he's gonna be

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00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: on special teams. And that's not that's grunt work. And

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Speaker 1: if you're first round draft picking, you gotta do grunt work.

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Speaker 1: You might not feel the same, you know what I'm

615
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: talking about. You know, when you're a pre m macdonnad,

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00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: you just don't feel like doing that. So um, but

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Speaker 1: I really, I really, I think we do need to.

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Speaker 1: I like bringing a rookie cornerback in as well, trust me,

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Speaker 1: but I like one that is confident in himself to

620
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: feel like I deserve to be here, or he's mad

621
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Speaker 1: enough to feel like y'all should have drafted me early.

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00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: Kwame Lafter was like that. We didn't draft Quammi Kuamo

623
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Speaker 1: was a late to men. Takuamo was an undrafted free

624
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: agent and he came in behind Terry Hols and Andre

625
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: Ware when you know, he had some guys to kind

626
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: of fight through that he believed he deserved to be there,

627
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: and when he got the spot in the chance to

628
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: transition and he became the Umlas that everyone knows and

629
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Speaker 1: that sometimes you know that's an undrafted guy, and that

630
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta have a guy that has that mentalent,

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Speaker 1: that believes he deserves to be there, and once you

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00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: get that, you can do anything you want to do

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00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: with Yeah, rest in peace, Quamy, no doubt. We loved

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00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: his confidence. You know, if Robert Alfred is healthy, he's

635
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: that guy, right Wolf, He's ultra confident and will compete.

636
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: We know that what about receivers in this draft? Is

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00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: an SEC guy? I mean, I look at some of

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Speaker 1: the names here, Frank, we're on board with Frank Sanders

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Speaker 1: here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford

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Speaker 1: and Gilbert And I mean, you list the top guys,

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Speaker 1: they're all from the SEC, seemingly Jamar Chase Lsu jal

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Speaker 1: And Waddle Alabama, DeVante Smith Bama, Kadarius Tony from Florida,

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Speaker 1: Marshall lsu, Elijah Moore ol Miss. Is there a guy

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Speaker 1: you really like in this draft? The top five names

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Speaker 1: you just name? If we can go one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 1: and five receivers. I'd be just happy to come on, guys,

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Speaker 1: let's quit kidding ourselves. We know Cliff want to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball, period. We don't want to run the ball.

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Speaker 1: We want to throw the ball. And we need more receivers.

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Speaker 1: And the more receivers we have, the more the more

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Speaker 1: opportunities that we can get out. And we got playmakers.

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Speaker 1: We need playmakers that can get out and make plays.

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Speaker 1: So I'm okay with the And how about this year

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the SEC and receivers, which was known

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Speaker 1: as a running conference, and now we got you know,

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Speaker 1: five of the top ten receivers that are coming out

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Speaker 1: the SEC that are capable, able and exciting. So to me,

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Speaker 1: if we use our picks on some receivers, all I

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Speaker 1: can say is Isabella's own notice, Kj's own notice, and

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Speaker 1: anybody else that got drafted in the last two years,

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Speaker 1: you don't notice because AJ's here, d hops here, Chris Christian.

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Speaker 1: We haven't even in the best of Christian and I

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Speaker 1: know he's he's absolutely got a lot of gas in

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Speaker 1: that tank. So to me, I'm okay, We're going to

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Speaker 1: get two more receivers out of the draft because I

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Speaker 1: know for a fact Cliff want to stow the ball,

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Speaker 1: and you know, did your guys know that too, Frankie,

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Speaker 1: how would you feel though, if, in fact, did the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals all there there are a number sixteen, and

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Speaker 1: they stay at number sixteen, and suddenly there's Naji Harris.

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Speaker 1: Would you be okay with the Arizona Cardinals drafting running

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Speaker 1: back Naji Harris from Alabama in the first round at sixteen.

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Speaker 1: I think you can go get two or three running

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Speaker 1: backs from Alabama and be happy with him. Because of

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Speaker 1: these guys, they no one. They gotta run, they gotta

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Speaker 1: run the ball, and uh, I'm definitely okay with that.

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Speaker 1: We need a running back. We let go Kingan Drake

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Speaker 1: and I thought he was I thought he was a

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Speaker 1: good fit for our system. I mean, I thought Chase

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Speaker 1: Saidmon is absolutely fabulous as well. I would like to

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Speaker 1: see I would love to Celico get a tight end

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Speaker 1: out of the out of the draft, but I want

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Speaker 1: I want blocking tight ends and if we can pick

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Speaker 1: them up in the late rounds, yeah, I want fat

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Speaker 1: guys we can put on the edge that we know

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Speaker 1: we can still add protect into the table. I don't

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Speaker 1: want chute receivers, two tight ends, because to me, you

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Speaker 1: got you got chot on the outside and that's where

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Speaker 1: he you know, our quarterbacks he was want to look.

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Speaker 1: So to me, I want fat boys that can block

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Speaker 1: and add to some answer answer the line. You know

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Speaker 1: I'm telling the two O you are. You're right on

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Speaker 1: it right now. Hey, listen, if you want to go

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Speaker 1: with a fourth wide receiver, go with a fourth wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: If you want to go three wide in a tight end,

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Speaker 1: get a real tight end so you've got some balance,

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Speaker 1: you can run it and you can throw it. Hey, Frank,

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Speaker 1: we got thirty seconds left here. I got to ask

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Speaker 1: you the money question. You broke the news playing golf

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Speaker 1: with Pat pe What about Larry Fitzgerald? Have you played

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Speaker 1: golf with fits? What can you stink? And tell us

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Speaker 1: right now about his future? Man since has been the

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Speaker 1: most He is Kayser Soze somewhere in the country right now.

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Speaker 1: This guys, he is not a football player looking like

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Speaker 1: a football player somewhere in the country. And I have

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Speaker 1: not had that wonderful opportunity to play with the brother.

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Speaker 1: But I know he's got a lot on his mind.

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Speaker 1: He's got ala on his play and uh play. We

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Speaker 1: always know his heart right is right here in Arizona

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Speaker 1: and what he wants to be. So that's that's not

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Speaker 1: that's not the big question. You know, you know he

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Speaker 1: loves us and if it works out, it works out,

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Speaker 1: and it to be best whole. One of the greatest

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Speaker 1: receivers ever played the game. Frankie, you're the best, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: God bless you, buddy. Talk to you down the road.

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Speaker 1: Have a blessing back right after this on the big

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Speaker 1: red range, Chase Edmonds in the backfood with Murray third

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Speaker 1: down in one of the twenty nine four receivers set

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Speaker 1: shot gun snap, it's a run play right side, Big

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Speaker 1: whole Edmunds twenty five twenty ten five touchdown the inside

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Speaker 1: zone being run and Chase Edmunds found the hole. It's

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Speaker 1: to the house baby, twenty nine yard touchdown run on

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Speaker 1: third down in one for Chase Edmonds. All four of

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Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds touchdowns at Medlife twenty parts are longer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's Jase Edmonds this year against the Jets. We know

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Speaker 1: what he did the year before with three touchdown runs

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Speaker 1: of twenty plus yards at the Giants. You put Chase

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Speaker 1: Edmonds in the Big Apple and he's going to give

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Speaker 1: you a big, big game. There's no doubt about her.

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Speaker 1: Right now here on the Big Red Race presented by

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Speaker 1: Satan Ford and Gilbert Ron Wolfley, you have Chase Edmonds

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Speaker 1: as you're featured back. Chase Edmonds is the lone experienced

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Speaker 1: running back on this Cardinals roster right now. Listen, you

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Speaker 1: know the way I feel about Chase Edmonds, Polly, this

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Speaker 1: guy is a football player through and through, a football

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Speaker 1: player of the highest order. First, I just wonder if

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Speaker 1: he's big enough to go out there and be your

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Speaker 1: every down back, right, be your back that is going

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Speaker 1: to carry the load and run down situations first and ten,

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Speaker 1: second and one to six. I don't know, Polly. I

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Speaker 1: think they need a changeup guy, a bigger guy. This

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Speaker 1: is something you know, I've been talking about all off season,

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Speaker 1: all the moves right now to become more physical, more

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Speaker 1: physical as a team, and in particular more physical on

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Well, at some point in time,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna need somebody to line up, somebody behind that

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Speaker 1: offensive line and run the ball in a more physical

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Speaker 1: fashion north and south in between the tackles. Chase Edmonds.

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Speaker 1: Of course you're gonna play Chase Edmonds. This guy is

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Speaker 1: a great player. You're gonna play Chase Edmonds. But hopefully

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Speaker 1: as an addition to some other running back that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna bring in, you're gonna need that tandem. Most NFL

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Speaker 1: teams have that tandem. I think the Arizona Cardinals need

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Speaker 1: a bruiser ball. And look, we know the seller cap

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Speaker 1: has been reduced to one hundred eighty two point five

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Speaker 1: million this year. So as of right now, and you

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Speaker 1: can read about it ac cardinals dot com or Kyle

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Speaker 1: Dagar broke it down, the cap hit for the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: at the running back position is the lowest in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's around three million dollars right now. For the entire

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Speaker 1: running back room. Chase Edmonds the only one who's making

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Speaker 1: more than a million dollars, and he's barely making over

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Speaker 1: a million dollars. And you have Eno, Benjamin, Jonathan Ward,

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Speaker 1: Calfani Muhammad. Is this something you think is Steve Kime's approach,

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Speaker 1: that maybe a rookie is added in the draft and

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Speaker 1: then Cardinals hit camp with a really young and inexpensive

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Speaker 1: running back room. Or do you think some of these

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Speaker 1: names still out there free agency? James Connor, Todd Gurley,

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Speaker 1: Duke Johnson, Adrian Peterson, Levy on Bell, Jeric McKinnon. Do

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Speaker 1: you think there's a veteran that's coming via kime time sign?

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Speaker 1: You know? Honestly, Polly, I do not know, But I

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Speaker 1: will tell you right now that of everybody you just

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Speaker 1: mentioned right there, the one guy that I think might

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Speaker 1: fit the bill for being a bruising running back James Connor.

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Speaker 1: Now here's a guy six one, two hundred thirty three pounds, PAULI.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty big back right there. That's a big back,

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Speaker 1: and that's a guy that also runs the ball in

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Speaker 1: a physical way. He's going to choose to run you

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Speaker 1: over as opposed to trying to run around you because

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Speaker 1: he knows he just doesn't have the jets to typically

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Speaker 1: get around you. So to me, there's a guy that

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Speaker 1: raises my eyebrows, and maybe a guy you could bring

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Speaker 1: in that you wouldn't have to pay an awful lot

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Speaker 1: of money for, and maybe a guy that would fit

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Speaker 1: under the cap. And yet he's gonna give you everything

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Speaker 1: he's got, probably on a one year contract. We'll see

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Speaker 1: but and by the way, how about his former running

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Speaker 1: backs coach with the Steelers. James Saxon is the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: running backs coach, and then Sean Coogler was Steelers connections. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if that makes for a natural path, yeah, getting signed

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Speaker 1: by the Cardinals late. I will say this quickly as well.

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Speaker 1: I do have a dream and that dream is somehow,

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Speaker 1: some way at the forty ninth pick, Javante Williams is there.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, five ten, two, twenty five. How does that

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Speaker 1: feel right there? Paul, Look, you don't have to ask

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Speaker 1: me twice about young rookie legs at the running back position.

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Speaker 1: There's just something about young, hungry, ferocious running backs who

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Speaker 1: don't hesitate to take it between the tackles. And I'm

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Speaker 1: all on board for that. Sous to tackle them, Paul. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if it's if they stay young and running back, I'm

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Speaker 1: good with that. Back to wrap up this edition of

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Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage, after this plush shirt and take

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Speaker 1: it down, and it is Jan J Walk It picked

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Speaker 1: up in the air. Running the other way with it

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Speaker 1: is j J W. And he is going to go

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Speaker 1: eighty plush yards for a touchdown fall the street stuffed

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Speaker 1: the round and it's a trophy one picked up running

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Speaker 1: in it to the fluty to the thirty, to the TWA.

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Speaker 1: He's gone touchdown. What shn he do? Port of time? Up?

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Speaker 1: Here comes walk? How he brings that portal to the nside?

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Speaker 1: J J. And what with the sack? Look out come behind?

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Speaker 1: Here comes one and second time he has got to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback stafford back to past books. He's out upside,

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Speaker 1: intercepted by J. J. Watt and he's gonna take it

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Speaker 1: in for a touchdown. JJ want in the news this week,

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Speaker 1: just the similarities and parallels to a guy he idolized

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Speaker 1: when he was a kid in Wisconsin, Reggie White with

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia and the anniversary of Reggie White leaving the Eagles

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Speaker 1: in a shocking free agent signing and going to the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers in nineteen ninety two, and Wolf you

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Speaker 1: remember that. I mean, look, you tell me if this accurate.

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Speaker 1: Guys from your era talk with absolute reverence about two

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Speaker 1: defensive legends who played the game during those years, Lawrence

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Speaker 1: Taylor and Reggie White. Dang Dane. Yes, Yeah, there's no

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Speaker 1: doubt about it. Paul, and I got a check because

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Speaker 1: of Reggie White. Okay, just the settlement with the NFL

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Speaker 1: and the whole free agency, and Reggie White was incredible.

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Speaker 1: Think about this, He actually went a four year contract

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Speaker 1: for seventeen million dollars at the time, Polly's that was big,

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Speaker 1: big muddy back then. And I'm talking about Reggie White,

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Speaker 1: of course, the Minister of Defense. I've got so many

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Speaker 1: Reggie White stories. I've told you them over and over

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Speaker 1: and over again. He's a guy I have the utmost

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Speaker 1: respect for, of course, a guy that was a great,

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Speaker 1: great football player and a better dude. Well, if you

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Speaker 1: go to a Z Cardinals dot com, you can see

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Speaker 1: the similarities in stats and accomplishments between JJ White and

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt and Reggie White, and it's just it's amazing. Dude.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that Reggie White, at age thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: had a sixteen sacks season. Yeah, that's absurd, Yes, Paul was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. And you know what else I love about J. J. Watt.

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Speaker 1: And you heard Frank Sanders touch on it a little

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Speaker 1: bit when we asked him about his recollection from the

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Speaker 1: ninety eight playoff win at Dallas, which was a monumental

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Speaker 1: win in Cardinals history, and he cited the pregame speech

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Speaker 1: by Neius Williams. Yes, and I immediately thought of jj

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Speaker 1: Watt and all his intensity and energy and maybe, just

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Speaker 1: To Paully once again, it's so important to listen. You

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Speaker 1: You don't want that guy unless he's gonna go out

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Speaker 1: hit him. I hit him all five five five five

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Speaker 1: five right instead of Ad Paul. You need somebody who's

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Speaker 1: gonna do first. That's gonna be jj Watt. Jj Watt's

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Speaker 1: gonna come into this locker room, come into this paradigm

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Speaker 1: and prove that he can still ball, prove that he

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Speaker 1: He's gonna come in, he's gonna prove he can play,

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Speaker 1: Reid and Chris McAllister. Right you Ope, it's the same

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Speaker 1: deal for all the Cargos players. Yep. Special thanks Jim

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Speaker 1: am Andro, Cody Fincher and Frank Sanders, Ron Wilful, PAULC.

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