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Here Matt and Uh. 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, the Brown signed David and Joeku to 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: a four year, fifty six point seven five million dollar deal. 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Now he was on the franchise tag, so they lowered 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: his cap hit UH from the franchise number this year 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: down to three point three to eight million dollars, so 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: it helped them this year, yes, but their caps always 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: odd to me. I mean a couple of teams. I 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: always talking about Saints, but I mean the Browns seem 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: to be in that neighborhood to where they can get 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: whatever they want. You know. The Watson deals a massive one, 26 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: but they're not paying them a lot in paragraph five 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: stuff this year. Um, I understand the the Joku move 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: and you know a couple of notes on the Joku. 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: I I'm starting to think tight Ends might be a 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: little like our safety conversation, where the right ones can 31 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: be real bargains. And I don't know if the Joku 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: is gonna qualify as that or not. But originally when 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: they franchised him, I thought, man, that's a lot of 34 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: money from the Joku. But the franchise tag for tight 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: Ends isn't that bad, you know, And it's not much 36 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: different than like the Isoma contract or, let alone the 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: Johnny Smith or Hunter Henry contracts from a year ago. 38 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: And you'd say which one about n Joku? But I 39 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: think he's in the same neighborhood as Henry and Smith, 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: and tight Ends do take a while, as we often 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: talked about, to hit their stride, and nobody has more 42 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: tight ends on the field than the Browns. So I 43 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: get it, but he's not a sure bat, that's for sure. Well, 44 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: here's the thing I'm looking here at the at the contract. 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: And while it was a four year, uh, when I 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: say four year fifty four point seven five million dollars, 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: twenty eight million dollars if it was guaranteed, that's a 48 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: big chunk. Seventeen fully guaranteed its signing. So this year 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: he counts three point three to eight million against their cap. 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: Next year that goes up to eight point seven nine 51 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: three in year three, eighteen point seven nine three million dollars. 52 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: Like he has better hit his stride by then or 53 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: this is not a good deal. Now his base salary 54 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: that year thirteen million. He then also gets a one 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: point five million dollar per game bonus. Was that's something 56 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: that's new in the contract. Takes that number up to 57 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: eighteen seven nine three five. So I assume they're looking 58 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: at it like after two years we can get out 59 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: of this, but it's still gonna have a lot of 60 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: dead's still gonna have a lot of dead money. Yeah, 61 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: In fact that you're dead money would be five point 62 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: nine million dollars in that so if he's not good, 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: he won't get those game check bonuses. You know. Actually 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: the dead money is twelve point eight It's almost twelve 65 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: point nine million for a pre June first cut. Boy, 66 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna be on the books for a while. Yeah. 67 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: And then in twenty nineteen that that cap numbers nineteen five. 68 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: And then they also added on avoidable year at the end, 69 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: so in six it's four point two almost four point 70 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: three million dollars for him not to be on the roster. 71 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: The nine being the rosters. Avoidable years is starting to 72 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: be a Browns thing here. Yeah, I bring it up 73 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: because of the of what they signed h Clowney, right, 74 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: Jendaveon Clowney. So Jadeveon Clowney signed a one year, uh 75 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: nine point to five million dollar contract to return to 76 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: the Brown's issue. Sounds logical. You know, he's a good player, 77 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: he's not a great player. It's late in the process, okay, 78 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: But there's more to it. There's more to it because 79 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: they did this. They did this with him last year, 80 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: gave him avoidable years on the end of that. So 81 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: he counts three point six million dollars. Whether he had 82 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: played it down for them this year or not. And 83 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: then they resigned him to that new deal and put 84 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: avoidable years on that as well. So next year, if 85 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: Jadeveon clown he doesn't resign with the Browns, he counts 86 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: six point four million dollars against their salary cap for 87 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: a one year deal, then they may do it again, 88 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, and sign him again to keep kicking the kid. 89 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: The problem for them becomes again, you have to start 90 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: paying the quarterback. Money starts to kick in for a 91 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: guy who may not be playing football for you at 92 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: that point. Their highest paid player right now, and their 93 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: rosters Baker Mayfield. That's crazy too. I hadn't thought of that. 94 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they have a ton of guys that are 95 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: making like eight to twelve I mean the whole offensive line, 96 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: Clowney garrets over that now Wards making money. Then Cooper 97 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: is not cheap, you know. They got a lot of 98 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: dude in the joku now. Of course, both the running 99 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: backs are expensive. I'm not sure when the bills are 100 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: gonna come do for the Browns, but it hasn't quite 101 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: hit them yet, but boy, it seems like it should 102 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: be coming soon. But Matt, they're going for it. They're 103 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: going for it right well, they may not be about 104 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback all year or two, they're gonna be bag 105 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna be in Jacksonville territory here pretty soon, and 106 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: Watson could raise all ships, I mean on the field. 107 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: And that's the plan I assume. As you invest so 108 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: much in that guy, man, I have my doubts how 109 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: much he's gonna play this year too. I I do 110 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: as well. And at some point that Myles Garrett contract 111 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: really kicks in here, and I'm looking at his numbers. 112 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: And while you are, no one's gonna bail you out 113 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: on the Mayfield contract. You know, like, even if you 114 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: trade him to Carolina, you're eating a big chunk of 115 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: that deal. And I guess those those conversations took place, 116 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: and maybe they I still think he'll play somewhere else 117 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: and be an opening day starter for somebody, But they're 118 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: not going to pick up the whole deal unless you 119 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: give them any of the deal. And the only way 120 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: that happens if you, like give them a second round 121 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: pick to take Mayfield one of those the Ostwidler type 122 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: of deals already without picks, and you've already laid on 123 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: picks two and again, Hey, I think the Browns could 124 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: be really really good, especially if Watson's out there for 125 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: a big chunk of the at the time. But they 126 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: had very little in draft revenue or draft capital this year. 127 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: They're gonna very little next year, and they can't be 128 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: having cap space. So this is, I mean, the ability 129 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: to add in the future is going to be really 130 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: hard for this team. In the Shawn Watson costs them 131 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: fifty four almost fifty five million dollars and Myles Garrett 132 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: cost them twenty nine million dollars. Eighty million dollars of 133 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: your salary camps two guys. Wow, And of course the 134 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: cap is gonna go up. And there's a lot of 135 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: great players. They're great players. Amari Cooper also cost you 136 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: twenty three point seven. There's like a hundred million players, right, 137 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: And boy, I mean Garrett has I mean, I think 138 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: Myles garretts prevndous. I know he's not the most popular 139 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: guy around here, but I think he's tremendous and he's 140 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: at that what level. But he has to be defensive 141 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: player of the year conversation to make that contract worth it, 142 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: And Watson has to be a top five quarterback for 143 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: that contract to be worth it. Is Cooper a guy 144 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: they could move on from. I I don't know. I mean, 145 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: I can't imagine him being top five at his position 146 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: like the other two. No matter how it goes for him, 147 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: He's a good player, not a great one. I'm just 148 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: looking at this here. Now. They're twenty nine point five 149 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: million dollars over next year's cap, and that's if it 150 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: is comes in at about million. Yeah. I mean, like everyone, 151 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: they'll restructure and they'll do things, and they'll be some cuts. 152 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I think their time of being 153 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: a buyer is gone done. Yeah, she said, Watson's five million, 154 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Garrett is twenty nine point one, Joe Betonio is fourteen six, 155 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb is fourteen eight, John Johnson is thirteen five. 156 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: Uh the John Johns four Yeah. I mean what that 157 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: tells me is there gonna keep Watson. They're gonna keep 158 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Ward and Garrett and their stars, but the tier two 159 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: guys might start to really dwindle. We always saw it 160 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: with Treder, And the thing is you don't have draft picks, 161 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: and you know, the draft picks to replenish that. I mean, 162 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: soon that line that they've invested so heavily in is 163 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna be getting a little bit older, you know. I think, 164 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: like a Conklin, you'll move on from maybe a Batonio. 165 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: You can't be you can't keep around anymore. The Coopers 166 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: of the world are gonna be hard to keep. No way, 167 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna have that much invested in running backs going 168 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: forward to you know, like they might be that team 169 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: that has to trade Nick Chubb year from now for 170 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: a fifth round pick, you know, to a contender, you know, 171 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: And that's that's hard world living. Yeah, especially when you 172 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, they went all in last year and it 173 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: didn't work. They're an interesting team building team. The boy 174 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: Watson has to be a star, and more importantly, he 175 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: has to be in the field, has to be on 176 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: the field, and I'm not sure that happens. We're talking 177 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: off the year, and I keep I keep saying more 178 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: and more nationally. Now I think I think they're starting 179 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: to catch on to what I've been saying all along, 180 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: that this could be a year or more. Yeah, and 181 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: if that happens, that's that kills the Browns franchise. Kills 182 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,479 Speaker 1: the franchise, I mean, set you back for years. Um, 183 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: not to mention, and boy, I hope it doesn't happen 184 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: again for everyone involved. But let's say he does get 185 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: suspended for a year or even I think in a 186 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: minimum to take games. What if he does it again? 187 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like in a way, you're 188 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: kind of investing in somebody that has a substance abuse 189 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: problem or I know it's not the same, but I'm 190 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: just talking dollars and cents here, or somebody that has 191 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: a bad knee. You know, like you're counting on these 192 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: things to correct themselves too, you know, Like do you 193 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: know what's going to I mean, I think Watson is 194 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: an awesome player, you know, but he has to be 195 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: for this move to work. He really has to be 196 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: like a top five quarterback, not even this year, but 197 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: for like eight years and not do anything wrong again, 198 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like that's a risky investment, 199 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: it really is. And so I'm gonna be interested to 200 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: see how you're buying the stock high and you need 201 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: it to go up. Yeah you know what I mean. 202 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: That's yeah, Well they bought a penny stock because that's 203 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: what his value should have been at that point, at 204 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: market value for two years ago. Yeah right, right, But 205 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: the contract does not imply he's a Penny Stock. That's 206 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They way overpaid for what the stock 207 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: should have been worth. Yeah, exactly, exactly in terms of 208 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: his contract. I mean. And oh, by the way, you 209 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: no first round picks going forward? You know, how is 210 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: the playing Mrs Lincoln right right? Right? So boy, and 211 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: you know, like their lineman and the John Johnson's of 212 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: the world, are they all gonna be better next year? 213 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: Chances are they're all gonna be worse next year, you 214 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: know twist. You know, Wills will probably be better, he's younger, 215 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: but most of these guys you peek in the NFL 216 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: doesn't last long. A lot of these guys have peaked 217 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: together probably will be declining. Yeah, you know, it's uh. 218 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: I really think next off season we could be talking 219 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: about the Browns as Wow, they were Super Bowl champs 220 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: or really had a great year, or they're set up 221 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: to be I don't see how can they can be 222 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: super Bowl chap. I think more likely though, is, boy, 223 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: they've really put themselves in a bind and it could 224 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: be a dark couple of years for the Browns because 225 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: of the aggressiveness that they've made. All these moves, including 226 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: the Joku who in a nutshell. That seems fine, but again, 227 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: you're adding one more multimillion dollar middle tier two guy. 228 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: That's really hard, right, right, right, exactly. You know, so 229 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: I still believe the paying good players like great players 230 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: is bad business. And I think he's a good player, 231 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: but not a great one. Yeah. Um, so John Johnson 232 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: can see them in the next two years to have 233 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: to tear that thing down. Yeah, I think it's a possibility. 234 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they almost have to hit on a Cooper 235 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: Cup in the third round type of you know, they 236 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: have to find pull a rabbit of a hat somewhere 237 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: at the line, maybe more than once. If you just don't, 238 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have the money to go out and 239 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: sign guys because you know, even if the cap goes up, 240 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: you're you were locked into paying these guys a lot 241 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: of money. And you can't you know, you can't walk 242 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: away from great. You can't walk away from Watson at 243 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: this point. No, no, no, You're totally tied in with him. 244 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: And he can't just be good. He has to be elite. Yeah, 245 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: that's the problem. And and be an elite and that 246 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: he lifts everybody else around him. And I don't know 247 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: that I like to Shaun Watson. I think he's a 248 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: very good player, right, he also hasn't played in the year. 249 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: He also hasn't played in the year. And even at that, 250 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: I mean, the Texans had some good talent around him 251 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: and they were fine, but they weren't They weren't a 252 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: great team. No, they weren't a great team. Right, And 253 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: you would think he keeps getting better. He's not. Yeah 254 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: he's not old, but you get better not playing. There's 255 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: a chance he goes two years without playing at all 256 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: an NFL game for two whole seasons. Then where is he? 257 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: You know? I mean that's tough. Absolutely love trede Lands 258 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: or when these guys, you know, but even those guys 259 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: are in the room, and you know, if he's suspended, 260 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: he did he go to meetings last year with the Texas? 261 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: Did he? You know? I think this time of year 262 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: he was like playing free safety or something. He didn't 263 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: get suspended, right, just showing up, right, they were developing 264 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: Davis Mills. So it's it's an interesting situation. I know 265 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: a lot of Browns fans are really volatile, very volatile, 266 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: and it's just a big not the kind of risk 267 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: that you see the more stable teams like the Steelers 268 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: take No. You know, just looking at the division, I 269 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: think it's really risky if you give Lamar a forty 270 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: million a year extensions risky? Is this? No, it's not 271 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: as risky as this. No. I mean, for all you know, 272 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: whether you like Lamar or not, he's done what he's 273 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: been asked to do for the right. He said, there's 274 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: nothing against you know what he does. And my my 275 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: reservation is signing him is can you hold up and 276 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: will he still be as explosive as an athlete, you know, 277 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the contract as he is now? 278 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: Let alone? I mean, I'm sure Lamar has loved and 279 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: respected in that building. Do you think every woman in 280 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: the Browns organizations thrilled that the Shawn's walking around and 281 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: not just that gender either, you know, I mean not 282 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: everyone's probably thrilled welcoming him with open arms. You know, 283 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: there's a human element to all this too. Absolutely, there 284 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: is a human element. But it's always interesting to take 285 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: a look at one of the other teams in the 286 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: division to see what they're doing, how they're approaching things. Uh, 287 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: Browns are being very aggressive this year. I don't know 288 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: if it's gonna work out for him. And I'm not 289 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: just bashing the division because I have great respect for 290 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: this division. I think it's the most competitive on the league. 291 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: And I know we're up against a break here. But 292 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: I heard someone talking on the podcast this morning, like 293 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: Alex Cappa is a good guard? Would he be a 294 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: good guard? And this expension and making this much money 295 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: that the Bengals are giving him, And I'm not bashing 296 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: the signing. If Tom Brady wasn't his quarterback the last 297 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: two years, Tampa, you know what I mean, Like, sometimes 298 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: you gotta be careful what you pay for because you're 299 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: not gonna make him as good if he's he's hit 300 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: his ceiling with you know, he's not gonna be fantic 301 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: that or Quittin Nelson. He's gonna be a good guard 302 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: on his best day. But Brady probably got the most 303 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: out them to thank, so you know what I mean. Yeah, Oh, 304 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. Uh. He is Matt Williams 305 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: and I am Dale. While you're listening to the Drive, 306 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: you're on Steelers Nation Radio. 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He's how now heading into 326 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: his third year in his Matt and I talked about 327 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: earlier in the show today a big year for Alex 328 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: high Smith. So let's hear what what Alex high Smith 329 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: had to say, Alex high Smith is uh is our 330 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: guest here on SNR, and I know mots he is 331 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: excited about this one. I mean, this guy, anytime we 332 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: talk about the offense for more than like ten minutes, 333 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: he's elbowed me and the race, stepping on my toes. 334 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: He's like, Den, we know it's hot out there. You've 335 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: got a million things going on. Wedding coming up around 336 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: the corner. Congratulations. Um, so thanks for taking the time. 337 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: We appreciate I appreciate you guys having me on. So 338 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: been a been a beautiful day here in Pittsburgh. He's 339 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: getting hot, so by that time, that's the true. That's 340 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: the truth. Now, Man, you've been through this now a 341 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: couple of times. Talk about, Man, where are you at 342 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: mentally while you're out here man, as a quote unquote 343 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: veteran in a sense, man like, how are you feeling 344 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: about this thing? It's crazy to think that it's already 345 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: year three us today, just watching the draft like a 346 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: month ago or whatever, it is, like, it really seems 347 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: like when I just got drafted. But it's cool to 348 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: be out here a year three. This has really been, 349 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: This has really been the first normal off season for 350 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: me because the guys drafted it wasn't didn't get up 351 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: here until July last year, like really a bunch of 352 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: guys didn't come till closer to Mini camp because everything 353 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: is still going on with COVID. So this it's just 354 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: been kind of cool, uh, to get back to normals. 355 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: You've seen a lot of people are practicing. You a 356 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: meeting in the locker room and stuff like that, and 357 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: so it's been really cool. I feel like I've I've 358 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: grown a lot, and I just it's I feel like 359 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm stepping into more of a leadership role this year, 360 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: being a year three guy and having a year of 361 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: starting under my belt and so but that's just no, 362 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: there's nowhere for me to get comfortable. I just always 363 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: gotta continue to get better and continue to get one 364 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: percent better every day. That's kind of the mantra that 365 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: I go by. And uh, it really just stepping into 366 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: more of leadership roll this year. But I feel good. 367 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: My body feels good and feel good mentally. So it's 368 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: been a good, good off season so far. Like you 369 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: mentioned that, the preparation in year three, now I can 370 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: imagine you know, first year, you're you're bright eyed, everything's 371 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: moving so fast, trying to figure out or your park, 372 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: the cafeteria, where you're right, all these different things that 373 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: you're where, you're living in a new city. Has it 374 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: Has it changed her process a lot in the last 375 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: three years or is it just more so now you're 376 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: more focused, You're maybe more detail oriented and knowing exactly 377 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: what you're what you're gonna be going throughout. Yeah, I 378 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: just you know, I feel like I've gotten just more 379 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: accustomed to it as I continue to be here in Pittsburgh. 380 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: And like you said, when I got here, I think 381 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: it's just so fast, especially since we didn't get up 382 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: here until July. It would be that was the first, 383 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: the first COVID. Yeah, it's kind of get thrown right 384 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: into the fire in the camp and so getting up 385 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: here preseason games games, so just getting up here having 386 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: to learn everything super quick. And I feel like that 387 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: um for me for some guys who was probably as 388 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: a disadvantage of some guys you know, probably couldn't focus 389 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: in virtual meetings and stuff like that, But I tried 390 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: to use as an advantage and just to come prepared 391 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: when I did get here. And so I've just been 392 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: cool to be able to continue to learn the city 393 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: more and just learn just the way of the veterans 394 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: more like being around guys like Cam and t J 395 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: and Tyson and those guys, just learning how they go 396 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: about their day and learning how they work. And so 397 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: I feel like I just try to really soak up 398 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: some things that they that they do, and just I 399 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: just always want to learn. Like even if I'm uh, 400 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, in my tenth year, you know which I hope, 401 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: uh hope, hope, Lord willing I can get to UM 402 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: in the league, I still always want to be learning. 403 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: You know, you can never learn enough. And that's how 404 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: I feel like some guys, some guys can get to 405 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: that point they think, oh they've got they've they've learned enough, 406 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: and they can not get better. Now, you can always 407 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: get better, you can always learn more. So that's just 408 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: as I continue to grow in my career and grow 409 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: physically and men, so they just want to continue to 410 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: always learn more. Yeah. Now, last year, Man, we saw 411 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: you take uh, just a great jump in terms of 412 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: your productivity, not just in the run but also in 413 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: the past game as well, Man getting six sacks as 414 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: a rusher. Just talk about Man at this stage now, 415 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: what are you trying to find tune? What areas are 416 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: you trying to improve upon? Because to me, one of 417 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: the biggest things that jumped out. People will point to 418 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: the sack numbers, but to me, it's how you played 419 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: the run. I thought that you are a lot more 420 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: physical in terms of set in the edge and just 421 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: being more just disruptive in the backfield. So what are 422 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: you taking out here this time of year and trying 423 00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: to say, you know what, these are the areas that 424 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: I want to improve upon. Yeah, just really the same 425 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: as last year. I think in the past game, just 426 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: working on my get off because that's where it starts 427 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: with the past rushing, you know, art being a pass rusher. 428 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: Just really working on refining my move so where that's 429 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: the cross, chop, the swipe, the spin, just really really 430 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: honing in on come on, I gotta gotta bring it 431 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: out more this year to just really honing in on, 432 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, really a couple of moves that I can 433 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: just really use to my advantage and so that I 434 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: can work those different moves. Because not all tackles set 435 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: the same or punch the same. You've gotta have different 436 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: moves or different tackles and so that's something I just 437 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: tried to learn more. And I'll use different moves when 438 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: I study different guys because some guys shoot their hands hash, 439 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: some guys shoot their hands low. So use different moves 440 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: for certain guys and just run games. Just continue to 441 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: be more physical. I think that was something that really 442 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: I want to get better at going to my second year, 443 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: because I think that's where a lot of people were like, uh, 444 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: you don't I don't think you can play the run. 445 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: I think I really show people that I can and 446 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: just proving myself that I can because I know I can, 447 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: And just really this year, I feel like I've got 448 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: more more physical as well. I've gained gained a few pounds, 449 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: so putting on more muscle, and so that's want to 450 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: continue to be all around player. I just don't you know, 451 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: of course, you don't want to get sacks. That's that's 452 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: really the most point thing. But meant that check bo man, 453 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: we know that. Also. I also want to be known 454 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: as you know, hard nos football player that's playing the 455 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: run and being physical because you know, last year, um, 456 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, we we weren't where we wanted to be 457 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: as a defense in the run. And I think this year. 458 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: We've got a lot to prove and that's something just 459 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: a key area where I want to be able to 460 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: do my job when it comes like, hey, when they 461 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: run the ball over here, like they're not getting around this. 462 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: That's the growing that I have. And so I just 463 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: continue to be more physical and something that I have, 464 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: something that you know, sticking with that, something that that 465 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: Moates and I have discussed, you know a few times 466 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: since the season ended. We're doing this show three or 467 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: four days a week. Still throughout the offseason, we regurgitate topics. Sometimes. 468 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: One of the things we've talked about is is that 469 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: run defense, and it's it's been a big topic amongst fans, 470 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: amongst media right about how that needs to improve this year. 471 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: But what we've said is five straight years now the 472 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: Steelers have led the league in sacks. I mean you 473 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: last year getting up to that number six. We all 474 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: know Cam Heyward and t J. Watt tying Michael Strahan's 475 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: single season stack record. It comes from a bunch of 476 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: different ways for the Steelers in five straight years doing 477 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: so it's I got to imagine for you guys, if 478 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: you can stop the run, if you can improve in 479 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: that department and have more predictable situations where it's it's 480 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 1: starting eight and you know you're pinning your ears back 481 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: and getting after the quarterback. The team has led the 482 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: league in sacks for five straight seasons, but it feels 483 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: like maybe that could even go to another level. Oh, 484 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: it definitely could. Just like you said, like that, we 485 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: have someone to improve on knowing the run game from 486 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: last year, and I think everybody being hell head this 487 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: year and having guys back is going to be could 488 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: be a huge advantage. Force. Um just really like coach. 489 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: Bringing in Coach Flores has been awesome for us as well. 490 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: He's so intelligent and I can see why he's been 491 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: a head coaching this league just because how intelligent he is. 492 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: He's been great so far. I've learned so much from him, 493 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: just from not only from a run game standpoint, but 494 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: also from a past row standpoint, you know, learning uh, 495 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: different protections from the old line, learning stuff like that. 496 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: So he's he's great. He's been great force so far, 497 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: really adding value to our defense, and I just, um, 498 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm excited to just see the leap that we take 499 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: this year because I know if we can, just like 500 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: you said, if we can put them in third and 501 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: long situations, Like teams don't want that against us, and 502 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: that's what we gotta get to is getting them in 503 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: the situation. So it's really about winning the first and 504 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: second down, uh, and stopping that running and making negative 505 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: plays in the backfield on the run game. And now, 506 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to you since you've shared the locker 507 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: room with the raining Defensive Player of the Year by 508 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: the name of t J Watt, But just talk about man, 509 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: what's that been like seeing him on a day to 510 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: day basis as well? Now that he's won that award 511 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: and obviously you're going into this third year, do you 512 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: feel that you guys can take what you've already been 513 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: doing to another level? Oh for sure, I feel like 514 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: both of us can. I think about t J, like, 515 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, he's the same person every day he comes 516 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: in and works and he says the same Montress may 517 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: just continue to get one percent better every day. And 518 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: it's just cool to be able to play alongside of 519 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: a guy like that who really loves football and loves 520 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: perfecting his craft. And that's the reason he's the best 521 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: at what he does because he comes out here every 522 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: day and he works. And so just like I said earlier, 523 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: I just try to take things from from from his 524 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: game and try to you know, model them into my game. 525 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: And so well, it's learning more about the cross job. 526 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: And for example, like a lot of times last year 527 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: wins and Rush's but wasn't either, I wasn't been in 528 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: the corner enough of the quarterback was step up and 529 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: I'll just kind of run right by him a few times. 530 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: And so this learning from t J. You know what, 531 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: what what is a little thing that you do to 532 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: really get your hips around the quarterback? Quarterback steps up 533 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: like you can still get them. And so learning little 534 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: things like that from something I'm gonna take like a 535 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: look looking forward to um modeling into my game this year. 536 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: And it's just been cool, uh to be able to 537 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: continue to learn from him and uh just be teammates 538 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: with him and excited for what we got a story 539 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: this year. Let's go certainly about we love getting after 540 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback here. Baby. You got to you mentioned a 541 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: few minutes ago when you were talking about you know, 542 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: growing into your third year and one percent better and 543 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: you use that word growing into a leadership role as 544 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: well too. What's that look like for you, because you know, 545 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: every football team is always looking for that next generation 546 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: of leaders to emerge. Obviously you've got Cam Heyward who's 547 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: great with that. T J. Watt Bridge in the gap 548 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: there as well too, But that's always is that something 549 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: that you're cognizantly you know in year three it's we 550 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: heard how that works. But now you're kind of looked 551 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: at as one of the veteran guys all of a sudden, 552 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: as opposed to being younger. Is that something like how 553 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: how do you work on leadership? Or is that just 554 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: something that's maybe come natural to you and your football correct? Yeah, 555 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: I just feel like I've always really truly been a 556 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: lead by example guy. Um and no matter you know 557 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: what year. Like in college, I was always by example guy. 558 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: But the order I got my college career and I 559 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: feel like, no, now, going to my my third year, 560 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: I feel like my I can use my voice more now. 561 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: I feel like, uh, just so far the dots I've been. 562 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: You know, if younger guys have had a question, I 563 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: want to be someone that they can come to and 564 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: that they can just soak knowledge from. Just also is 565 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: like learning from them as well, just really and really 566 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: teaching them any questions that they had. Just Hey, this 567 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: is what I went through my rookie year and I 568 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: want to help you with that, and so I just 569 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: really that's what it is, just having more of a 570 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: vocal voice because I feel like I've always been a 571 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: lead by example guy. I always work hard, but I 572 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: really want to step into more of a vocal leader 573 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: this year for the defensive for the team, and so 574 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: I look forward to doing that now. The last one 575 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: I have for you is we know that we also 576 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: had a switch in terms of coordinate is this offseason 577 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, going from Keith 578 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: Butler to Terrell Louston? Just talk about, Man, what's that 579 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: been like for you in terms of your acclamation period um, 580 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: adjusting to how he communicates, to some of the wrinks 581 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: that he's had, Um, how do you feel with this 582 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: thus far? T has been great. So far. I've always 583 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: liked him as a when he was a coach here 584 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 1: last year and coaching the DBS, and I just you know, always, oh, 585 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, am are the way that he coached those guys, 586 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 1: and from when they announced he's gonna be deef as 587 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: a coordinator, I was really excited because I know you know, 588 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: he's a great coach and he's gonna he's gonna he's 589 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: gonna build up good schemes for us to win games 590 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: and win games on the defense side of the ball 591 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: this year, and he's been he's been awesome, especially helping 592 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: us a lot in the game coverage as well. I think, 593 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: you know, we've been working and working on that uh 594 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: these o t a periods because we didn't really work 595 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: on it, uh like earlier as much as we did 596 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: last year, and so sometimes we get out there and 597 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: coverage and it's like sometimes we you know, I didn't 598 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: know what to do at times, and so uh going 599 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: out there uh this year and practicing that stuff early 600 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: while because we can't really like we're not pad right now, 601 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: so it's something like we can do one on ones 602 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and just really refining that area 603 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 1: of the game has really really cool so far. And 604 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, him beating a defensive back coach the past 605 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: few years, he's really been able to being able to 606 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: take tips from him and guards to that. So he's 607 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: been great so far. To me, I'm excited for the 608 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: way we're gonna look this year. Last one I've got 609 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: for you when we sat down, you know, you had 610 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: mentioned to Moates and I how you're gonna be heading 611 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: out to Latrobe for the first time in about two months. 612 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: And it is like our our colleague Dale Lally, I 613 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: believe the number was twenty, right, nine of the ninety 614 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: guys out here. Of that's twenty of the players have 615 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: have been to Latrobe, which is which is well less 616 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: than half there. Do you think it's a good time 617 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: for everybody to be getting back out there together in 618 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: the dorms all that stuff when you do have, you know, 619 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time, some real 620 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: substantial turnover in the organization, right, I mean Ben Roethlisberger's retired, 621 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert is no longer general manager, new defensive coordinator 622 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: and no t a has been on the staff, but 623 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: new d C. Brian Flores, new quarterbacks, right, all this stuff. 624 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: Is it maybe a good time to be heading back 625 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: there just for the continuity to get everybody on the 626 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: same page. Yeah, I think it'd be cool, you know, 627 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: because we're it's not like we're you know, here in 628 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: the city, like we're out in La Trobe and uh, 629 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: it's football out there, that's about it. That's what the 630 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: guys say that have been there so far. But I 631 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: think it would be good, a really good a few 632 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: weeks for us out there, just to really lock in 633 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: and get prepared for the season. And uh, you know, 634 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited because it's my first time, the first 635 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: time going and I know that the fans are crazy 636 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: out there and so every day it's gonna be wild. 637 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: So like it was, it was really cool Hines Field, 638 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: but it was different because they were kind of in 639 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: the stands and there's not much interaction. But I've heard 640 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: they're like, you know, they're they're gonna be up and down. 641 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: They're right on pice. Practice practice won't be until thirty 642 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: one o'clock and they're around walk into the locker room 643 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: practice for your practice. They will be out there full force, screaming. 644 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: They they tailgate out in the field until the gates 645 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: are open and they're allowed in. My dad's really excited, 646 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: he's definitely he's definitely looking forward to be interacting with 647 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: all the fans too and everything. He'll be a superstar. 648 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: No boy, Seriously, people really do like it's crazy, Like 649 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: he'll walk he'll walk around and like Mr Highsman, like, yeah, 650 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: people know him because you you see his Twitter account. 651 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: He's very active. He's got a lot of he's got 652 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: He told me he'll tell me like at the game, 653 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: like I'll talk to him, be like hey, yeah, miss 654 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: him my Twitter friends a day. He's got a lot 655 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: of he's hip. He travels home in a lot like 656 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: we used him on the road before. Man like absolutely, man, 657 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: awesome do come they come to almost all of them. 658 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: So I'm him thankful for that's seven you want right there, Absolutely, 659 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: Alex hi Smith. Busy week, busy time of the year 660 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: for you, a lot going on. We appreciate you taking 661 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: Alex Highsmith on earlier today with West Euler and Arthur 662 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: Moates and uh you hear how um kind of a 663 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: cerebral approach Alex Highsmith takes. Yeah, he's studious. Yeah right, 664 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: young guys soaks things in. Uh. You can see why 665 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: the Steelers would like that kind of player. Where they 666 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: got him in the third round to two years and 667 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: three years ago. Now, um, and you look at again 668 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: the steady production increases year after year. He's a self 669 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: made guy. Walk on it at Charlotte, Yeah right right. 670 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: I remember that raised a few eyebrows when they made 671 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: that selection. You know, small school guy, not a high 672 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: pedigree like you said, he was a walk on at 673 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: a small school. To even add add to that, and 674 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: I remember a couple of traits that really stood out 675 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: to me just studying him really after they drafted him, 676 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: because I knew a lot less about him before they 677 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: drafted him, as after was one trait I think that 678 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: they don't know if they admitted publicly, but get off 679 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: is really important to their guys. You know that a 680 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: lot of these guys have really good ten yards splits, 681 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: They have great get off the snap, these edge pass 682 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: rushers and studious you know, I mean Watt and Highsmith 683 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: both are very hard workers, their master craftsmen in terms 684 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: of all the different pass rush moves and hand placement, 685 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: stringing things together and even the stuff that wasn't in 686 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: that interview. You know, him and Moxy were talking off 687 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: the air about boy, you're really working on your cross 688 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: chop and things like that, you know, I mean, he 689 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: really is putting the time in on those things. And 690 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: it just gives you a good spot to start with 691 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: with that get off in athleticism, and then you can 692 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: take it a couple steps further when you really work 693 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: hard on your trade, which both these edge guys do. Yeah, absolutely, 694 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: and you start to reach that that age where the 695 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: athleticism matches up with the knowledge and the athois athleticism 696 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: is not gonna last forever, right, yeah, right, right, so 697 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: then you get by on knowledge the last few years 698 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: of your career. But yeah, he's starting to see Alex 699 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: Highsmith come into his own. We're gonna take a break. 700 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: He is Matt Williams and I am Dale Lally. You're 701 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We 702 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: are live from Steelers O T A s here at 703 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: the U P. M. C Roney Sports Complex. We'll be 704 00:31:53,760 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: back with more right after this. Welcome back on Allowing 705 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: Me with Matt Whynson. We are live from Steelers the 706 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: sessions here the UPMC really Sports Complex and Matt, I'm 707 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: looking here at in the article one CBS Sports dot Com. 708 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: It's up by Jason Lacamphora ranking the divisions this year. 709 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: It's funny, quite coincidence, because I gotta asked this question 710 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: on yesterday's podcast that I did, and I had a 711 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: hard time ranking them. To be honest with you, Yeah, 712 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: he puts he puts a a f C West at 713 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: number one. I don't know if I would necessarily put 714 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: the a f C West at number one because the 715 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: way I'm the way I'm looking about is how good 716 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: they are, not like what's the most competitive or any 717 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: of that's like top to bottom? What's the best division 718 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: in football? Like if you put Denver or Oakland or 719 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: should say Las Vega Vegas in the f C North, 720 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: would either one of them be the favorite to win it? Well, 721 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: let's I mean, I think what you're saying is the 722 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: f C North in the West are clearly the top two. 723 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: I agree. So I don't know, Like if I were 724 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: willing top to bottom in each division, let's power rank 725 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: those eight teams. Then who's eight? I think the Raiders. Okay, 726 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: who's seven? I think it's the Brown Steel. The Browns 727 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: have DeShawn Watson or not. Let's say he's gonna play 728 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: half the year, then they're seven, so we'll give him 729 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: half of the Shawn Watson there seven. They might be eight, 730 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: they might be eight. I think they're eight. Yeah, I 731 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: think so with Brisset their eight. With Watson, I think 732 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: they're six. Okay, so let's call them ete Okay, because 733 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a big chunk without them, 734 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: and certainly this beginning of the year will be without them. 735 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: You know, who's to say what teams have what in 736 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: week ten? Anyway, So if we go into the assumption 737 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: that Watson's not their opening day, because the rest of 738 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: stuff is going to change throughout the year anyway. So 739 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: let's say the Browns are eight, the Raiders are seven, 740 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers are six. I guess the Steelers are Denver. 741 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sold on Denver. I think Denver is ahead 742 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: of the Steelers. I'm not sold on that they haven't 743 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: won more than seven games in half a decade. I mean, 744 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: I think some people would put Denver in the conversation 745 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: of one, and I think that's way too high. But 746 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: I think they're ahead of the Steelers. But I'll give 747 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: you Denver at five. So Denverse five, Steelers, six, Raiders, seven, 748 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: Brownies eight, which is really good. I mean, you think 749 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: about the six, seven, eight teams, there's no other divisions 750 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: that could compete with that. I mean, that's the bottom 751 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: of the divisions here. Awesome. That means that's why they're 752 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: in this coast. Four teams might win the NFC East, 753 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: right right, I think they'd be competing or would be 754 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: NFC playoff teams even you know, with three wild card teams. 755 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: Al right, So do you have a preference who's four 756 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: or who's one. Sometimes it's easier to work back awards. 757 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are one until proven otherwise. I 758 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: think they were one. I think they deserve that. But 759 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: I think Baltimore and Cincinnati or two and three mm hmm. 760 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are better than both those teams. 761 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: They weren't last year. They weren't last year. They were 762 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: not a Baltimore wasn't good either. I'm just going Okay, 763 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: So what the Bengals did last year was they went 764 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: into Kansas They they went into Kansas City and beat 765 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: Kansas City. They did they did? I mean, obviously they're 766 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl team. Um, you know the Ravens. I 767 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: expect to bounce back this year. This will be controversial, 768 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 1: and I bet you don't agree with me. My top 769 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: four would go Ksey, Chargers, Ravens, Bengals. Okay, so then 770 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: you would think the f C West is the better division. Yeah, 771 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: because I have the I have the three four six 772 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: with the Chargers franchise. You gotta show me there's a 773 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: little bit of Cleveland Cincinnati there. Yeah, I mean that's 774 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: they should be a playoff team already. Are they ever 775 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: gonna get They had the opportunity last year to do 776 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: something about that on the field against the against the 777 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: division rival, and couldn't get it done right. And it's 778 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: a young coach, and I think Cincinnati similar that way, 779 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: young quarterback, young coach. But they proved it and then 780 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: one of their team didn't. But I think if the 781 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,959 Speaker 1: Chargers played the Bengals a hundred and eleven times right now, 782 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: the Chargers win, Okay, So I would go the West 783 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: slightly over the North. Okay, but it's a battle. We 784 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: think the North there's number two. Oh yeah, who's three 785 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: NFC West for me? But Seattle is bad. Seattle is 786 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: really bad. And and I don't know that. Um. I 787 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: think Arizona is really hard to trust too. I think 788 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: they're going to take a step back this year. I'm 789 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: not sure Arizona is any different than that Bengals Chargers 790 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: conversation we had, and that though I trust them to 791 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 1: really be a winner. And I don't know what San 792 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: Francisco is right. If they start trade lance, they could 793 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: they could win twelve games, they could win six, they 794 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: could I think they have a little bit of that 795 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: Raven Steelers factor. Well, maybe I'll take that back, because 796 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: every Shanahan years either has been Final four or picking 797 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: in the top of the few, you know what I mean. 798 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: Then I was gonna say they seem like an eight 799 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: or nine win team no matter what. But maybe I'm 800 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: wrong about that, you know, because history hasn't stood up 801 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: to that. I saw ustat the other day. The trade 802 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: lance in his career since since he went to college 803 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: is throwing three fifty nine passes or something since he 804 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: went to college. I mean, that's right, right right, that's interesting. Yeah, 805 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: and Jimmy's not going to be in the equation. It's 806 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: not like he was at Alabama sitting behind right right right. Yeah. 807 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: I still think they're the third division though, Okay, who's four? 808 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: He is the FC East. I get that. It's a 809 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: pretty solid drop off though, from those first two to 810 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: the next. Agreed, Agreed, because I think Buffalo would be 811 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: one on all of our power rags. But then the 812 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: rest of it is the rest of it's okay, Yeah, 813 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 1: I don't think the Jets are a garbage team anymore. 814 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: But that's kind of like the Lances, right, they have 815 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: an awful schedule too, and neither one of us hie 816 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: on New England. And I had a lot of questions 817 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: about Miami. Yeah, see I which East Division? I might 818 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: put the NFC South over the FC. I can see that, 819 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: especially like if Mayfield landed in Carolina. At least I 820 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: think you get to like a seven win team then yeah, right, right, 821 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback, because I think the Saints are a 822 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: playoff team. The Bucks might be the best in the NFC. 823 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: Um they added a team Hicks today. By the Falcons 824 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 1: are really bad. They're horrible. They're the last. They're thirty 825 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: two to me, here's a dark horse. Though. What about 826 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: the NFC East, Yeah, I'm not buying. See, I think 827 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: Philly and Dallas are play type teams. I think Dallas 828 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: might be the biggest disappointment this year. Yeah, I have 829 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: my worries about them, but I think their bottom feeders 830 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: are a little better than they've been in that. Washington 831 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: to me is like a seven to nine win team, 832 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: and I think the Giants aren't one of the worst 833 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: teams in the league anymore. Again, guilty until proven innocent, right, 834 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: a couple of these divisions though. I mean, NFC North 835 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: has two bad teams, even though I think one is 836 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: going the right direction, and a f C South has 837 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: two bad teams you know, are just that are just 838 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: bad and probably aren't going to change soon. So who's 839 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,439 Speaker 1: the worst division the league? Well, according to looking looking forward, 840 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: he is he NFC North sixth. He has the NFC 841 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: South fifth, NFC North sixth, a f C South seventh, 842 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: in the NFC East eight. Hm, I don't think i'd 843 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,479 Speaker 1: have the NFC East eight. I'm starting to really warm 844 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: up to the Colts though, in terms of the a 845 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: f C South, Like, I think that's a ten or 846 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 1: eleven win team in that division, especially considering they're playing 847 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: in the a f C North. They be the battling 848 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 1: for third place. Yes, they're not much different than the 849 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: Steelers or Browns on the Brown's best, That's the thing 850 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: to me, I think people needed to keep the Steelers 851 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: could take a step backward and wins this year, but 852 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: be a better team than they were last year. I 853 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked if that's how it actually transpires, because 854 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they're a bad football team. Keep seeing, 855 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, these things out there. They're gonna be picking 856 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: top ten or they have the Steelers picking in the 857 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: top twelve. I mean, even if their fourth and division. 858 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: They're not the Jags, Texans, you know, Giants, Bears, and 859 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: there's some bad ones out there, and not to mention, 860 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: and maybe the Steelers will be this team, but they 861 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: haven't been lately. That there's gonna be two teams that 862 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: we're counting on to the middle of the road that 863 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: are gonna be junk after three injuries, you know what 864 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: I mean? And and to me, I mean that's the 865 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 1: Duck Hodges year. Yeah, and they still went a and eight, 866 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, I just look at 867 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: this team, and you know, I agadn't bring up the 868 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: fact that Mike Tomlin in his career is fifty two 869 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: and fifty against teams have finished the season with the 870 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: winning record of the winning records those teams. Is amazing. 871 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: That's the best of any coach in the league. And 872 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: I bring it up because today General Schefski said, and 873 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: we'll hear from him and the next yeah. Uh. He 874 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: told reporters that, um, you know, the coaching staff in 875 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: New England talked very highly of Mike Tomlin as a coach, 876 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: and they didn't and they didn't do that about a 877 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: lot of guys. I'm sure they didn't. I mean, I bet, 878 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: deep down Belichick does not respect that many coaches. Yeah, 879 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I always go back to the Bill wallph 880 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: saying that, you know, we're fighting against eight teams here, folks, 881 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: And I'm sure Belichick looked at that the same way. 882 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: And maybe it's not the same eight teams every year, 883 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: but there's really only eight teams give or take that 884 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: I truly fear or respect or could be on our 885 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: level as the Montana Niners, you know, And I'm sure 886 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: Belichick looked at the same way. And I think the 887 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: Steelers have been that all along. They've been one of 888 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: those eight. Yeah, I mean, and if you when you 889 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: look at the track record, I mean they've they've had 890 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: this second best record since since Belichick has been head coach. 891 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a lot that we said for that right. Absolutely, 892 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson, I 893 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: am Dale Lully. You're listening to the drive here on 894 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We'd want a special show here, as 895 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: we've done did last week. We'll continue this week Tuesday 896 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: Wednesday Thursday here at the Steeler O t A Sessions 897 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: on the U p m C at the U p 898 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: m C Rooney Sports Complex. 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