WEBVTT - Top 5 Superhero-Director Combos (We'd Like To See) | Archive 0:00:21.244 --> 0:00:24.604 Film Spotting is presented by Regal Unlimited, the all you 0:00:24.605 --> 0:00:27.605 can watch movie subscription pass that pays for itself in 0:00:27.685 --> 0:00:31.365 just two visits. See any standard two D movie anytime 0:00:31.725 --> 0:00:34.845 with no blackoutdates or restrictions. Sign up now on the 0:00:34.885 --> 0:00:37.284 Regal app or at the link in our description and 0:00:37.445 --> 0:00:41.685 use code film spot twenty six to receive fifteen percent off. 0:00:45.845 --> 0:00:48.325 What kind of a show you guys putting on here today? 0:00:48.445 --> 0:00:49.885 You're not interested in armed now? 0:00:50.045 --> 0:00:51.364 No, Look, we're going to do this thing. 0:00:51.364 --> 0:00:52.044 We're going to have a. 0:00:52.004 --> 0:00:58.245 Conversation with this week's archive drop Josh and Spider Man 0:00:58.485 --> 0:01:01.525 having just been released in theaters. We're keeping the superhero 0:01:01.804 --> 0:01:04.485 theme going a little bit. We're going back to twenty 0:01:04.525 --> 0:01:08.365 eighteen when Ryan Coogler's Black Panther came out and we 0:01:08.444 --> 0:01:12.045 did a corresponding top five that I remember thinking was 0:01:12.084 --> 0:01:13.685 a lot of fun. I like it when we have 0:01:13.804 --> 0:01:20.044 to get imaginative like this, and looking back at my list, 0:01:20.645 --> 0:01:23.925 I have to say I'm still proud of this. I mean, 0:01:23.965 --> 0:01:26.604 we'll see, Okay, if people listen to this and they think, 0:01:27.005 --> 0:01:29.324 I don't know why you're proud of this, this list sucks, 0:01:29.565 --> 0:01:32.125 But I want to see these movies. I'm not so 0:01:32.205 --> 0:01:35.524 sure about my number five. This filmmaker has been kind 0:01:35.524 --> 0:01:38.285 of off the radar since twenty eighteen. But those top 0:01:38.324 --> 0:01:42.164 four I want to see these movies. What about you 0:01:42.205 --> 0:01:42.764 in your list? 0:01:42.804 --> 0:01:45.565 Well, I'm glad you feel that way. I'm looking at 0:01:45.604 --> 0:01:49.485 mine and a little confused. I'm thinking my number five 0:01:49.645 --> 0:01:53.045 is possibly a joke or at least a riff on 0:01:53.245 --> 0:01:56.805 a long running yes Baby on the show that might be. 0:01:56.885 --> 0:02:01.684 And here, while we're talking, I'm not sure I even 0:02:01.845 --> 0:02:06.205 know who the superhero is in my number four. I 0:02:06.285 --> 0:02:08.605 have an idea. Let me google it real quick. My 0:02:08.725 --> 0:02:13.925 number four pick. Let's see here, is this the guy 0:02:14.045 --> 0:02:17.765 i'm thinking of? Yes, it is okay, good, So I 0:02:17.845 --> 0:02:22.044 do still remember my number four pick. My number one 0:02:22.045 --> 0:02:26.525 through three though really strong. I feel really good about those. 0:02:26.605 --> 0:02:30.525 So yeah, I think plane producer. I think we should 0:02:30.565 --> 0:02:32.725 be hired. I think you know, a studio at this 0:02:32.845 --> 0:02:36.245 point honestly should hire us. Yeah. 0:02:36.325 --> 0:02:39.565 If any producers are out there listening, give this archive 0:02:39.644 --> 0:02:43.285 drop a listen and let us know. You can find 0:02:43.325 --> 0:02:47.725 us feedback at filmspotting dot net. If you are considering 0:02:47.764 --> 0:02:51.524 being a film Spotting family member, where you get access 0:02:51.725 --> 0:02:54.885 to the film Spotting Archive at any time. You get 0:02:54.924 --> 0:02:58.165 access to top fives like this whenever you would like. 0:02:58.605 --> 0:03:01.125 You can do that by joining the film Spotting Family. 0:03:01.125 --> 0:03:04.645 At film spottingfamily dot com you get not only access 0:03:04.685 --> 0:03:07.924 to the archive, but monthly bonus shows and a whole 0:03:07.965 --> 0:03:11.325 lot more. Film spotting Family dot com is where you 0:03:11.365 --> 0:03:14.965 can learn more. From February twenty eighteen, here are the 0:03:15.005 --> 0:03:19.565 top five superhero director combos that we would like to see. 0:03:20.005 --> 0:03:22.845 Dear mister Duig, as it has come to my attention 0:03:23.005 --> 0:03:26.845 that your mutant abilities have recently emerged, I am extending 0:03:26.845 --> 0:03:29.885 to you an invitation to join the Charles Xavier School 0:03:29.965 --> 0:03:33.605 for Gifted Youngsters. Here you will join our small but 0:03:33.725 --> 0:03:35.725 extremely talented student body. 0:03:36.045 --> 0:03:37.244 So you're the new guy. 0:03:37.645 --> 0:03:38.245 Yeah, I guess. 0:03:38.245 --> 0:03:42.805 So that was what if? Wes Anderson directed The X 0:03:42.885 --> 0:03:45.925 Men by Patrick H. Williams, a video you can find 0:03:45.965 --> 0:03:48.125 on YouTube, or you can go to our show notes 0:03:48.125 --> 0:03:50.845 at filmspotting dot net for this episode and find a 0:03:50.885 --> 0:03:53.525 link there. Now you and Sam behind the scenes here, 0:03:53.645 --> 0:03:58.605 you you upiteat Wes Anderson fanatics had to say it 0:03:58.645 --> 0:04:01.684 was just okay, but you have to admit it's inspired. 0:04:01.765 --> 0:04:04.525 It's basically it's the Royal Tenen bombs. But if it 0:04:04.565 --> 0:04:05.765 was an X Men movie. 0:04:05.605 --> 0:04:09.925 Yeah, exactly. And I think it's it's interesting that Anderson 0:04:10.045 --> 0:04:11.965 is one of the first people that come to mind 0:04:11.965 --> 0:04:14.485 when you throw this question out there, because he does 0:04:14.525 --> 0:04:16.605 have such a distinctive style. You'll also see what if 0:04:16.645 --> 0:04:18.565 Wes Anderson did a horror movie or what if he 0:04:18.605 --> 0:04:20.605 did this? You know. So he's just one of those 0:04:20.645 --> 0:04:24.645 filmmas people would like to see thrown at something completely 0:04:24.645 --> 0:04:27.085 different from what they've been doing. I don't know if 0:04:27.685 --> 0:04:30.805 I quite approached this top five that way. 0:04:30.605 --> 0:04:33.005 Though, really I was sure Wes Anderson was your one. 0:04:33.045 --> 0:04:35.885 Though he's not variations on a theme. 0:04:36.165 --> 0:04:39.724 It's weird because I think I just love his stuff 0:04:39.765 --> 0:04:42.365 so much. I kind of don't And this doesn't to 0:04:42.525 --> 0:04:45.604 mean that I consider it slumming to take on a 0:04:45.645 --> 0:04:49.245 superhero franchise, but I just don't want him to do that. 0:04:50.045 --> 0:04:52.165 Well, let's talk about that a little bit here. The 0:04:52.485 --> 0:04:54.805 impetus behind this. I mean, obviously we were looking for 0:04:54.844 --> 0:04:57.805 a tie in with Black Panther, and it's a good 0:04:57.805 --> 0:05:00.445 one for reasons we touched on during that review in 0:05:00.485 --> 0:05:02.845 that you would not think probably that the guy who 0:05:02.844 --> 0:05:05.565 made fruit Vale station just going off that movie would 0:05:05.645 --> 0:05:09.525 eventually make this Marvel Cinematic Universe movie. But we're glad 0:05:09.565 --> 0:05:12.325 he did. And there are other examples of this coming 0:05:12.365 --> 0:05:15.725 up too. I just only a day or two ago, 0:05:15.964 --> 0:05:19.645 working on this list, googled the Captain Marvel movie that's 0:05:19.685 --> 0:05:22.364 coming out with Bree Larson as Captain Marvel. Do you 0:05:22.445 --> 0:05:23.724 know who's directing that movie? 0:05:23.725 --> 0:05:24.765 I knew it, but I forgot. 0:05:24.885 --> 0:05:27.885 It's Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck. That's right, the people 0:05:27.885 --> 0:05:29.685 who made It's kind of a funny story in Sugar 0:05:29.725 --> 0:05:32.844 and Half Nelson. These indeed directors who you would never 0:05:32.885 --> 0:05:36.645 imagine making a tent pole franchise movie, but the kind 0:05:36.685 --> 0:05:39.885 of directors that we would put up and hope would 0:05:40.005 --> 0:05:42.045 maybe one day make that kind of movie and bring 0:05:42.085 --> 0:05:44.484 a little bit of a different personality to it. So 0:05:44.525 --> 0:05:46.925 that's kind of where we're going with this list. 0:05:47.085 --> 0:05:49.685 Yeah, and we should also note that this was first 0:05:49.725 --> 0:05:53.885 suggested by a Film Spotting Advisory Board member, Corn Dog. Yes. 0:05:55.125 --> 0:05:56.485 I don't know why are you laughing if. 0:05:56.404 --> 0:05:59.285 Corn Dog wants to change that name now that we're 0:05:59.365 --> 0:06:02.284 using it on the air, But it was a fun idea. 0:06:02.365 --> 0:06:06.325 I think it's a promising idea, especially if you think 0:06:06.365 --> 0:06:09.044 about approaching it not just from the curiosity factor, but 0:06:09.165 --> 0:06:13.924 really trying to match a director's sensibility with the sensibility 0:06:13.964 --> 0:06:16.205 of the comic book or maybe of the character that's it. 0:06:16.245 --> 0:06:17.965 And once I started doing that, it was kind of 0:06:18.005 --> 0:06:20.445 a fun thought experiment to engage in. 0:06:20.485 --> 0:06:22.125 I'm with you said this last week when we were 0:06:22.125 --> 0:06:24.205 teasing this top five, This was as much fun as 0:06:24.205 --> 0:06:27.125 I've had putting together any recent top five list. And 0:06:27.404 --> 0:06:30.085 we'll see if the results speak to that. But just 0:06:30.125 --> 0:06:31.964 a little bit more set up, and I think I 0:06:32.045 --> 0:06:35.085 expressed these concerns a little last week. I was worried 0:06:35.125 --> 0:06:37.525 at first when we were kicking this around that we 0:06:37.605 --> 0:06:40.325 both didn't have enough geek cred to really go down 0:06:40.365 --> 0:06:42.924 this path that will reveal itself. You will see that 0:06:42.964 --> 0:06:45.085 we are limited, I think, or I'm just going to 0:06:45.125 --> 0:06:47.645 speak for myself, I'm limited when it comes to knowing 0:06:47.685 --> 0:06:51.045 the vocabulary around some of these superheroes and their origins 0:06:51.085 --> 0:06:54.964 and their powers and all of the legacy that's in 0:06:55.005 --> 0:06:57.205 place with them. So bear with us and be patient 0:06:57.245 --> 0:06:59.525 a little bit. Also, it's not as if you and 0:06:59.605 --> 0:07:02.285 I are sitting around all the time talking about our 0:07:02.325 --> 0:07:05.205 love and fascination with superhero movies, nor do we think 0:07:05.245 --> 0:07:08.445 that this is the end all, be all trajectory for 0:07:08.725 --> 0:07:10.885 our favorite director. Correct, they don't need to make a 0:07:10.925 --> 0:07:14.405 superhero movie in order for us to appreciate them or 0:07:14.445 --> 0:07:17.125 really to be taken seriously. I don't think. Probably I 0:07:17.125 --> 0:07:19.205 could be wrong, but I don't think Sean Baker from 0:07:19.245 --> 0:07:21.685 the Florida Project is probably sitting around pining for his 0:07:21.765 --> 0:07:25.605 opportunity to make a Marvel or DC movie. But maybe 0:07:25.645 --> 0:07:28.525 he is. I do understand that it reflects to a 0:07:28.565 --> 0:07:32.245 certain extent standing in the industry, and not only that, 0:07:32.365 --> 0:07:36.085 maybe more importantly, Josh, the opportunity for different voices to 0:07:36.205 --> 0:07:39.525 take on these works, right, that's really what's most important. 0:07:39.525 --> 0:07:41.885 I was just trying to get to get some new 0:07:42.125 --> 0:07:45.725 perspective and a new vision. So it is about that 0:07:46.325 --> 0:07:50.205 marriage of the material, the director, and the superhero and 0:07:50.405 --> 0:07:52.725 maybe the star. One other example of this, just a 0:07:52.765 --> 0:07:56.565 few days ago, Slash Film had an article about Alex Garland, 0:07:56.725 --> 0:07:59.045 the director of Annihilation. We're going to discuss that here 0:07:59.045 --> 0:08:02.285 on an upcoming episode. And he has some history with 0:08:02.365 --> 0:08:06.325 comic book movies because before Annihilation and ex Machina as 0:08:06.325 --> 0:08:10.645 a screenwriter he did write the comic book adaptation for Dread, 0:08:11.005 --> 0:08:13.765 and he was asked in a Reddit ama, I think 0:08:13.845 --> 0:08:16.965 just recently what comic book movie he would make if 0:08:17.005 --> 0:08:19.885 he could, and his answer was swamp Thing. He didn't 0:08:19.885 --> 0:08:22.045 go into a lot of detail, but I'm just quoting 0:08:22.085 --> 0:08:24.405 here from the slash Film article. It says, judging by 0:08:24.405 --> 0:08:27.205 his talent for approaching pulpy sci fi elements through a 0:08:27.245 --> 0:08:31.085 restrained humanistic lens, he could be a fantastic fit. His 0:08:31.125 --> 0:08:33.485 work behind the camera with X Makana and Annihilation, as 0:08:33.525 --> 0:08:35.245 well as his work on scripts for Never Let Me 0:08:35.285 --> 0:08:38.285 Go in Sunshine, prove him to be a challenging, ambitious 0:08:38.285 --> 0:08:41.045 sci fi filmmaker who seeks to explore the meaning of 0:08:41.165 --> 0:08:44.325 human identity. So if you go with that background, matching 0:08:44.405 --> 0:08:46.804 him with something like swamp Thing makes sense. I think 0:08:46.805 --> 0:08:49.445 that's kind of where we were both going with these lists, right. 0:08:49.365 --> 0:08:52.525 Yeah, absolutely, And speaking of swamp Thing, I'll share one 0:08:52.605 --> 0:08:55.285 listener suggestion right off the top here, because we got 0:08:55.325 --> 0:08:57.204 a ton of them on social media. But Jason Knight 0:08:57.485 --> 0:09:01.405 suggested for swamp Thing Jeff Nichols, which I also think 0:09:01.445 --> 0:09:04.165 is intriguing. Okay, we got it. We'll share some more 0:09:04.205 --> 0:09:05.405 of these listeners. 0:09:05.045 --> 0:09:06.684 Is that like a sootype. 0:09:07.085 --> 0:09:10.084 I don't know, it's kind of a Southern Gothic vibe. 0:09:10.205 --> 0:09:13.165 Maybe it maybe it'll work. Okay, let's see if you 0:09:13.205 --> 0:09:16.045 think my number five might work. I can't wait Sophia 0:09:16.085 --> 0:09:20.725 Coppola making Aqua Woman. Now you know where I'm going 0:09:20.725 --> 0:09:24.085 with this. I do the movie made up so disappointed 0:09:24.684 --> 0:09:28.045 that Sophia Coppola's live action Little Mermaid movie never came 0:09:28.085 --> 0:09:30.085 to pass. It did exist at one point, Adam, it 0:09:30.165 --> 0:09:34.405 did exist. Well, maybe this could be the next best thing. 0:09:34.845 --> 0:09:38.085 I'll admit, speaking to our cred. Aqua Woman is not 0:09:38.205 --> 0:09:41.045 one of those comic book characters that I'm very familiar with. 0:09:41.205 --> 0:09:44.485 From what I could tell, she's relatively new, first introduced 0:09:44.485 --> 0:09:47.405 around twenty fourteen, I think, as part of DC's Earth 0:09:47.405 --> 0:09:51.085 two series. So there aren't really decades of mythology to 0:09:51.165 --> 0:09:53.365 deal with here. And I think that's okay, because I 0:09:53.445 --> 0:09:57.885 basically want Copola to take this basic framework and aquatic 0:09:58.005 --> 0:10:02.245 superheroin and use that canvas to offer you know what 0:10:02.285 --> 0:10:05.525 she usually does, a portrait of a very specific sort 0:10:05.645 --> 0:10:08.845 of femininity. Now, if that sounds far fetched, keep in 0:10:08.885 --> 0:10:11.765 mind that most of Copola's movies seem to be taking 0:10:11.804 --> 0:10:15.445 place underwater anyway, when you think about how they're described, 0:10:15.525 --> 0:10:20.324 like words like languid come up. There's slow movements within them. 0:10:20.525 --> 0:10:24.845 There's just a a flow. The characters flow in Coppola's movies. 0:10:24.885 --> 0:10:27.645 So I think in some ways this would be something 0:10:27.684 --> 0:10:31.165 of a natural fit from an esthetic standpoint. Now, you 0:10:31.325 --> 0:10:35.804 mentioned earlier that you thought about casting these films as well, 0:10:36.005 --> 0:10:39.045 So I've been thinking about who might be able to 0:10:39.125 --> 0:10:41.565 play Aqua woman, and I'm just going to go back 0:10:41.605 --> 0:10:44.445 to someone who's worked with Coppola about the right age. 0:10:44.485 --> 0:10:46.725 I would expect El Fanning, who was in The Beguiled 0:10:46.765 --> 0:10:50.005 with her. I could see she's kind of watery. I 0:10:50.045 --> 0:10:52.605 think when I think of El Fanning, that word comes 0:10:52.605 --> 0:10:55.845 to mind. So maybe maybe that would work. Okay, I'm 0:10:55.845 --> 0:10:58.525 not too stoked about this year's Aquaman movie. Speaking of 0:10:58.564 --> 0:11:02.405 superhero exhaustion, I think stoked is maybe the right word 0:11:02.445 --> 0:11:04.725 to use. Jason Momoa, you seem to be going for 0:11:04.765 --> 0:11:08.125 aqua dude more than anything else. But if Sophia Coppola 0:11:08.325 --> 0:11:10.645 had Aqua woman coming out, I would be into it. 0:11:10.725 --> 0:11:14.045 Okay. I would be intrigued as well. And Jason Momoa 0:11:14.085 --> 0:11:16.525 a nice transition into my number five because my director 0:11:17.005 --> 0:11:20.885 last directed Momoa in her recent film. I'm going to 0:11:21.045 --> 0:11:22.645 give this to you. I'm gonna give my choices to 0:11:22.725 --> 0:11:24.885 you as if you are the studio head and I'm 0:11:24.925 --> 0:11:26.765 pitching it okay to you. So I'm gonna give you 0:11:26.804 --> 0:11:30.725 the director and the title and the actor and see 0:11:30.725 --> 0:11:32.485 how you react. Now, this one may stump you a 0:11:32.485 --> 0:11:34.445 little bit because I don't think you're as familiar with 0:11:34.485 --> 0:11:37.085 this director's work, and I don't think you'll place the 0:11:37.125 --> 0:11:39.405 actress's name either. I could be wrong. This is the 0:11:39.445 --> 0:11:41.885 only one rejected. It will do that. So you're already 0:11:41.885 --> 0:11:45.645 it's like she's not a big enoughisode. It's over. Okay, Sorry, 0:11:46.285 --> 0:11:49.444 Next my number five superhero director Combo I'd like to 0:11:49.485 --> 0:11:58.684 see is Anna Lily ahmerpors Ms Marvel starring goal shifta Farahni. Okay, 0:11:58.845 --> 0:12:01.605 go shifta Farahni, and I'll get to a reason why 0:12:01.645 --> 0:12:03.405 in a moment, at least one reason why she's a 0:12:03.405 --> 0:12:08.805 problematic fit. Here is Patterson's wife in the movie Yeah 0:12:08.885 --> 0:12:12.844 Patterson starring opposite Adam Driver and that Jim Jarmish movie. 0:12:12.885 --> 0:12:17.405 She is an Iranian actress, and that dissent is important 0:12:17.645 --> 0:12:21.645 as this is the description of Mis Marvel that Comic Vine, 0:12:21.684 --> 0:12:25.285 a website gives this new Mis Marvel. Anyway, Kamala Khan 0:12:25.684 --> 0:12:29.965 is the girl's name. She is a shape shifting Muslim 0:12:30.005 --> 0:12:34.845 Pakistani American teenager from New Jersey who becomes the newest 0:12:34.845 --> 0:12:37.804 holder of the Mis Marvel identity. So, without knowing all 0:12:37.845 --> 0:12:40.325 the history of this, there have been different Miss Marvels 0:12:40.405 --> 0:12:42.765 over the years. It was a counter to Captain Marvel. 0:12:42.965 --> 0:12:46.084 Carol Danvers was the original Mis Marvel, and that is 0:12:46.125 --> 0:12:49.565 who Brie Larson is playing as I understand it in 0:12:49.645 --> 0:12:52.445 the Captain Marvel movie. So Miss Marvel has been this 0:12:52.564 --> 0:12:55.084 kind of go to figure throughout the Marvel universe over 0:12:55.085 --> 0:12:58.085 the years, and now in its current imagining, she is 0:12:58.445 --> 0:13:01.885 a sixteen year old Pakistani American girl from New Jersey. 0:13:02.205 --> 0:13:05.045 So this was the hardest to cast because I'm going 0:13:05.085 --> 0:13:10.244 to confess I can't think of any Pakistani American teenage 0:13:10.605 --> 0:13:13.045 actresses off the top of my head, and I did 0:13:13.085 --> 0:13:16.165 google a little bit. I found actresses that act in 0:13:16.205 --> 0:13:19.045 movies not here in the United States, not in Hollywood movies, 0:13:19.085 --> 0:13:20.925 So that wouldn't do me much good. Go shift of 0:13:21.564 --> 0:13:24.125 I think is really wonderful in Patterson. She's also in 0:13:24.205 --> 0:13:26.964 Body of Lies. She plays a Jordanian in that film 0:13:26.965 --> 0:13:30.085 opposite Leo DiCaprio. That was the Ridley Scott film from 0:13:30.485 --> 0:13:33.485 a few years back. But she is thirty four. She 0:13:33.525 --> 0:13:36.564 doesn't look thirty four to me. She looks maybe mid 0:13:36.645 --> 0:13:39.165 twenties at best. I don't know that she could pass 0:13:39.405 --> 0:13:42.365 as a sixteen year old. I will open this up 0:13:42.365 --> 0:13:44.765 to other people who might be more enlightened than me 0:13:44.885 --> 0:13:47.925 and can suggest someone who could really play Ms Marvel. 0:13:48.605 --> 0:13:51.125 One of the reasons that I think this character could 0:13:51.125 --> 0:13:53.245 be so fascinating to see on screen, and this goes 0:13:53.285 --> 0:13:55.645 back to something we talked about during Black Panther and 0:13:55.725 --> 0:13:58.605 also our recent conversation where we revisited The Last Jedi. 0:13:58.804 --> 0:14:01.645 The idea of diversity came up and someone challenged it, 0:14:01.725 --> 0:14:03.845 saying it was a weakness of the Last Jedi. I 0:14:03.885 --> 0:14:07.165 took issue with that, and one of the things I 0:14:07.205 --> 0:14:10.445 don't think I pointed out in my argument, even though 0:14:10.485 --> 0:14:13.765 it belonged and is certainly a no brainer, is that 0:14:14.005 --> 0:14:18.485 everybody deserves. Everyone deserves to see themselves represented on screen, 0:14:18.564 --> 0:14:22.525 to see themselves reflected back, whether that's an everyday reflection 0:14:22.645 --> 0:14:25.605 of who they are or it's a fantastic version of 0:14:25.645 --> 0:14:27.965 who they are. And just last night, as I was 0:14:28.005 --> 0:14:30.285 jotting down my notes, I went to Twitter and I 0:14:30.285 --> 0:14:32.685 did a search for mis Marvel just to see if 0:14:32.685 --> 0:14:36.325 anybody is saying anything about her. What's the dialogue around 0:14:36.605 --> 0:14:40.845 this character right now? And a user named at Foxville 0:14:40.965 --> 0:14:44.005 underscore Art who says she's a visual development artist and 0:14:44.085 --> 0:14:48.124 illustrator and she's co host of at the Art Corner podcast. 0:14:48.845 --> 0:14:51.485 She wrote this, growing up, I never saw anyone who 0:14:51.565 --> 0:14:54.685 looked like me, a Pakistani Muslim immigrant in the media 0:14:54.765 --> 0:14:58.565 I consumed, let alone an actual crime fighting superhero. I'm 0:14:58.565 --> 0:15:00.565 so thankful for mis Marvel. I think we'd all be 0:15:00.645 --> 0:15:03.445 thankful to see that character on screen. And I do 0:15:03.605 --> 0:15:06.565 like the meta narrative element to this as well. Josh 0:15:06.605 --> 0:15:09.205 where based on what I read about Kamala Khan, she 0:15:09.365 --> 0:15:13.245 was someone who was obsessed with superheroes and comic books 0:15:13.245 --> 0:15:17.685 and Miss Marvel in particular, and then when she basically 0:15:17.845 --> 0:15:21.325 gained these powers that she gained, she decided to take 0:15:21.365 --> 0:15:25.525 on this persona, which seems so appropriate for this age 0:15:25.565 --> 0:15:28.645 we live in right now, this fanboy and fangirl age 0:15:28.685 --> 0:15:30.725 and just the fact that she is someone who is 0:15:30.765 --> 0:15:33.725 discussed as someone who is an outsider, who always felt different, 0:15:33.805 --> 0:15:36.245 who is cast out a little bit at school, and 0:15:36.325 --> 0:15:38.965 takes on this persona to help people, just to help 0:15:39.005 --> 0:15:43.325 people because she's inherently compassionate. Also seems like a character 0:15:43.445 --> 0:15:44.605 we all need to see right now. 0:15:44.925 --> 0:15:47.885 Yeah, I like it. And Armorer was another filmmaker who I. 0:15:47.845 --> 0:15:49.805 Didn't even talk about it a lot, you know, a 0:15:49.845 --> 0:15:51.885 lot all that rambling, and I didn't even talk about 0:15:51.885 --> 0:15:52.845 the director. 0:15:52.845 --> 0:15:54.925 But a lot of listeners pegged her right away as 0:15:54.925 --> 0:15:57.485 someone who could pull off one of these films. Of course, Yeah, 0:15:57.525 --> 0:16:00.365 directed the Bad Batch And a Girl Walks home Alone 0:16:00.405 --> 0:16:00.725 at night? 0:16:00.805 --> 0:16:03.245 Yes, And when I thought of Kamala Khan, and when 0:16:03.245 --> 0:16:05.045 I saw some of the pictures, even though it couldn't 0:16:05.045 --> 0:16:07.405 be more different because they're very colorful, and a girl 0:16:07.405 --> 0:16:09.245 walks home alone at night is in black and white. 0:16:09.365 --> 0:16:12.005 But the first character, the first actress I envisioned, is 0:16:12.005 --> 0:16:15.165 Sheila Vand who is that girl who walks home alone 0:16:15.205 --> 0:16:18.565 at night? And so that sense of being an outsider, 0:16:19.085 --> 0:16:22.445 being different, being alienated from those around you, and yet 0:16:22.445 --> 0:16:26.285 trying to assimilate, that's very much at the core as well. 0:16:26.325 --> 0:16:28.245 Of the bad Batch. Even though it's a very different 0:16:28.325 --> 0:16:30.285 movie than A Girl Walks home alone night, she just 0:16:30.285 --> 0:16:33.365 seems like the right director for that character and material. 0:16:33.525 --> 0:16:35.805 All Right, we're at my number four. I guess I 0:16:35.805 --> 0:16:39.685 would say, Adam, I dabbled in comics more than anything 0:16:39.685 --> 0:16:41.725 else when I was younger. I'd pick them up here 0:16:41.765 --> 0:16:45.125 and there. Probably the age I was most into them 0:16:45.245 --> 0:16:48.645 was middle school. And that's also when I embarked on 0:16:48.925 --> 0:16:52.885 a get rich quick comics scheme that didn't really pan out. 0:16:53.245 --> 0:16:56.405 In nineteen eighty six, Marvel tried to launch a completely 0:16:56.405 --> 0:17:00.045 original series of superheroes under this New Universe banner. I 0:17:00.045 --> 0:17:04.125 think there were about eight made from scratch characters or teams. 0:17:04.805 --> 0:17:07.925 I middle school me saw an investment opportunity, Adam, so 0:17:08.605 --> 0:17:11.244 I shelled out the seventy five cents each. This was 0:17:11.285 --> 0:17:14.805 in eighty six, for the first five issues of each series. 0:17:15.485 --> 0:17:18.205 Guess how much they're worth now? I checked while putting 0:17:18.205 --> 0:17:23.885 together this list. Eighty five cents a dollar seventy each. Atam, 0:17:23.925 --> 0:17:25.725 I thank you very much. According to my math, I 0:17:25.765 --> 0:17:29.525 doubled my money. More than double my money. Some of 0:17:29.565 --> 0:17:33.085 these were really cheesy. I found these in a drawer 0:17:33.605 --> 0:17:37.605 over The Weekend Kickers Ink was a team of former 0:17:37.765 --> 0:17:42.205 football players. Not too cool, but I do remember rejected 0:17:43.405 --> 0:17:46.845 good move. There was one that I liked for more 0:17:46.885 --> 0:17:50.645 than investment purposes called night Mask, a character created by 0:17:50.725 --> 0:17:53.645 Archie Goodwin. This is a team with the ability to 0:17:53.805 --> 0:17:58.165 enter other people's dreams. Now. Night Mask had this goth look. 0:17:58.245 --> 0:18:01.125 There was a black, high colored cape that he wears 0:18:01.165 --> 0:18:04.965 and it ends in these tendrils. And with its dreamscapes, 0:18:05.325 --> 0:18:09.805 the comic gives ample opportunity for really surrealistic flourishes. So 0:18:10.245 --> 0:18:13.765 who do I want to see make the night Mask movie? Well, 0:18:14.325 --> 0:18:16.485 I think Tim Burton still has a great movie in him. 0:18:16.485 --> 0:18:19.125 And before you scoff, here's the Kicker. I want his 0:18:19.245 --> 0:18:22.485 night Mask to be stop motion. There are definitely some 0:18:22.645 --> 0:18:27.565 Jack Skellington touches to night Masks. Look, i'd even here. 0:18:27.685 --> 0:18:29.605 Here's how much I'm committed to this, Adam. I will 0:18:29.645 --> 0:18:33.005 put my earnings from my new Universe collection. I'll sell 0:18:33.005 --> 0:18:34.845 them all and put that towards seed mon. 0:18:34.925 --> 0:18:35.045 Oh. 0:18:35.125 --> 0:18:37.605 Yeah, for the night Mask, get it off the ground. 0:18:37.605 --> 0:18:39.965 I don't know anything about night Mask, but Tim Burton's 0:18:40.085 --> 0:18:43.245 night Mask does sound right. Josh so good pick Okay, 0:18:43.885 --> 0:18:47.005 let's see how you take to my number four, obviously 0:18:47.005 --> 0:18:51.205 inspired by a recent discussion here on the show David 0:18:51.245 --> 0:18:58.045 Cronenberg's Angel starring Timothy Shallowmey. 0:18:58.405 --> 0:18:59.845 You're gonna have to fill me an un angel. 0:18:59.965 --> 0:19:02.245 So Angel you have seen on screen before? Because I 0:19:02.325 --> 0:19:06.205 am guessing though you probably skipped X Men Apocalypse as 0:19:06.245 --> 0:19:09.045 I did, the one starring Oscar Isaac, the recent one, 0:19:09.125 --> 0:19:11.845 have not seen that? You did see the Brett Ratner 0:19:11.885 --> 0:19:14.805 directed X Men The Last Stand? Or am I wrong? 0:19:15.765 --> 0:19:17.925 I wish I had that information readily available. 0:19:17.965 --> 0:19:21.445 Okay, Ben Foster, the Great Ben Foster, Yeah, okay, the 0:19:21.565 --> 0:19:26.365 very blonde angel in X Men The Last Stand and 0:19:26.725 --> 0:19:30.965 his namesake. His real name is Kenneth Worthington the Third. 0:19:31.045 --> 0:19:33.285 I'm just going off of Marvel's wikia here. He is 0:19:33.365 --> 0:19:36.245 the mutant son of the wealthy Warren K. Worthington Junior 0:19:36.965 --> 0:19:39.005 and his wife Catherine, neither of whom were aware that 0:19:39.045 --> 0:19:41.485 their son had developed. This is where Cronerberg comes in. 0:19:41.565 --> 0:19:45.805 Josh a pair of large feathered wings extending from his back, 0:19:46.485 --> 0:19:49.485 enabling him to fly. If you go back and watch 0:19:49.565 --> 0:19:52.325 in that scene, can't you the body horror of that? 0:19:52.445 --> 0:19:54.925 If you go back and watch that scene from X 0:19:55.005 --> 0:19:56.725 Men The Last Stand. That's basically what we get. We 0:19:56.725 --> 0:20:00.085 get a flashback to the younger Ben Foster character, the 0:20:00.125 --> 0:20:04.285 younger Warren Worthington, who is actually trying to cut off 0:20:04.525 --> 0:20:07.085 the wings from his back. He's so ashamed of them 0:20:07.325 --> 0:20:10.045 that he's trying to cut them from his body in 0:20:10.165 --> 0:20:12.725 a scene that isn't really that disturbing. It's not what 0:20:13.205 --> 0:20:15.765 David Croneberg would do with it, but you could imagine 0:20:15.885 --> 0:20:17.525 what he might do with it. And then later we 0:20:17.605 --> 0:20:20.765 see when he finally kind of revels in the full 0:20:21.085 --> 0:20:23.485 force of his wings when he does come out to 0:20:23.605 --> 0:20:26.005 his family, and that's one of those metaphors or one 0:20:26.005 --> 0:20:28.525 of those analogies that go with a lot of X 0:20:28.565 --> 0:20:32.285 Men characters, and it certainly ties to Warren Worthington as well. Now, 0:20:32.765 --> 0:20:35.205 depending on the movie and its scope, he could also 0:20:35.245 --> 0:20:39.285 turn into archangel, which he does and apparently this happens 0:20:39.325 --> 0:20:44.005 in X Men Apocalypse. Apocalypse turns him into this dark, 0:20:44.765 --> 0:20:49.605 foreboding character who merges with technology, and those wings go 0:20:49.645 --> 0:20:52.885 from being feathers to these, as they're described in front 0:20:52.885 --> 0:20:56.445 of me, techno organic wings. He can fly higher and 0:20:56.485 --> 0:21:00.365 faster and their razor sharp with feathers that are throne 0:21:00.365 --> 0:21:02.405 as blades with the neurotoxin. 0:21:02.685 --> 0:21:04.685 We're really in video drum territory, are. 0:21:04.645 --> 0:21:07.405 Aren't we. So that's the thing. It's just something about 0:21:06.925 --> 0:21:12.165 that combination of body horror and potentially body and technology 0:21:12.285 --> 0:21:16.165 converging the consequences of that convergence that seems so appropriate 0:21:16.245 --> 0:21:19.845 for Cronenberg and then Chalome. I'm going with Chalome because 0:21:20.125 --> 0:21:23.605 he's probably the actor I'm most curious to see whatever 0:21:23.645 --> 0:21:25.365