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Speaker 1: Welcome back to episode twenty of Inside the Bus. Jared's

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Speaker 1: got he uh. This episode twenty, we had to have

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest guests of all time, the future

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, Titans Hall of Famer, and just one

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Speaker 1: of the overall, just one of the boys.

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Speaker 2: Give it up for Delaney Walker. Thank y'all, Thank y'all,

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Speaker 2: thank y'all for having me.

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Speaker 3: I think, hands down our favorite doubt of the talent,

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Speaker 3: without a doubt. From day one. Always has shown love.

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Speaker 3: He always comes to the back chops it up. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot of stories that Delaney has for us that

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Speaker 3: can't be shared on podcasts.

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Speaker 2: But he is here.

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Speaker 4: He has created and added.

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Speaker 3: To the culture of the back of the bus more

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Speaker 3: than for sure, than anybody for sure.

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Speaker 1: And that's why this is this question that I was

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Speaker 1: gonna I was talking about before. I feel like this

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Speaker 1: question is only for Delaney and like he can only

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Speaker 1: answer it. What was your first impression of each guy

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Speaker 1: in the back since you've been You've been around to

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Speaker 1: so much, you've hung out with so much, coming back

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Speaker 1: and just chop it up, what is your first impression

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Speaker 1: to beat you all us?

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Speaker 5: That's a good question, to be honest, with y'all because

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Speaker 5: all y'all have something different about y'all but similar, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean? Right, definitely all white, for sure,

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Speaker 5: all white, but uh, y'all just do something different. Y'all

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Speaker 5: carry y'allself different, but when y'all get around each other,

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Speaker 5: y'all kind of almost have that same thinking mindset.

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Speaker 2: And I like that.

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Speaker 5: But the first thing about you guys was I said

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Speaker 5: what I thought about y'all were y'all go getters, bro

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Speaker 5: Because I can remember from the beginning. I don't know

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Speaker 5: if y'all was getting paid to do this or whatnot,

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Speaker 5: but y'are not like y'all were grinding, you know, just

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Speaker 5: seeing the videos whatever coming out, and honestly, like I

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Speaker 5: can remember the first I don't know how many people

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Speaker 5: worked on that first episode, but that first episode went crazy,

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Speaker 5: and I think I got even more popular over fuck

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Speaker 5: what it was? It It was, uh, these stories, draft,

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Speaker 5: the type, no draft, the tight end, he won't fucking

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Speaker 5: play like that. Ship went crazy, right, And then I realized,

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Speaker 5: like they these dudes get it. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: y'all get y'all get what makes ship works. Because even

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Speaker 5: in the content now, people be like who man, you crazy?

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Speaker 5: You funny how you put that together? And I'm like,

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Speaker 5: it ain't me, It ain't me. It's this dudes that

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Speaker 5: when you see him, you probably wouldn't even think they

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Speaker 5: were doing that type of ship.

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Speaker 6: Y'all athletes, Yeah yeah, now yeah, y'all kind of y'all

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Speaker 6: got athletic abilities, you know what I'm saying, for the

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Speaker 6: most part, Yeah, for the most part.

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Speaker 5: I mean Jared, Jared is the gangster. You know, he

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Speaker 5: he didn't play sports. He you know, pull up, rolling

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Speaker 5: with the with the burner. You know, he he willing

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Speaker 5: to sacrifice his life. No, but all you guys, man,

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Speaker 5: y'all seem like y'all was like college dudes and then

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Speaker 5: y'all has y'all.

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Speaker 2: Was hungry to be successful, and uh, that's what I like.

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Speaker 5: I like y'all. I feel like I kind of relate

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Speaker 5: to y'all more than I relate to and Taylor. I

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Speaker 5: don't know why, but that's what I feel right like,

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Speaker 5: because after we get down with the show, it's like I.

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Speaker 2: Don't care about talking to them, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I come want to talk to y'all in the back

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Speaker 5: because the conversations are more real.

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Speaker 2: I think I feel interest like you're just.

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Speaker 1: Back at college, just hanging with a bunch of white

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they feel like.

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Speaker 5: To be honest with is like I can I know

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Speaker 5: I'm older than everybody in here, but like when I

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Speaker 5: come around you guys, I feel like I'm one of y'all.

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Speaker 2: And that goes to y'all just accepting me. You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I know I'm crazy as hell, and uh, the stories

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Speaker 5: we talk about. Then sometimes I get y'all to open

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Speaker 5: up about personal stuff, and that's what I like about

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Speaker 5: it because we kind of we throw punches at each

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Speaker 7: So while working on the topic of you remind you

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Speaker 7: of maybe those college days, give us a little background

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Speaker 7: story for anyone who's not aware of where you're from

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Speaker 7: and how you got to where you were in college,

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Speaker 7: and then then we can kind of go from there

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Speaker 7: because I know there's gonna be a few listeners and

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Speaker 7: maybe this is the first time hearing from you, but

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Speaker 7: majority of probably nine nine percent, I heard everything but.

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Speaker 2: The one.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, So first I'll start off, I'm from Los Angeles, California.

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Speaker 5: Long story, but I'm gonna give y'all that shirt short version.

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Speaker 5: Highly recruited in college, but I got I mean in

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Speaker 5: high school, but I got in trouble. I got a

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Speaker 5: I couldn't leave. To stay at California for two years.

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Speaker 5: Pretty much did the Juco route. But when I was

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Speaker 5: in Juco, man, I was just I was still around

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Speaker 5: the same people, you know what I mean, and they

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Speaker 5: didn't care for my future. And I didn't care for

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Speaker 5: the things that I did, obviously I didn't. But I

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Speaker 5: had another opportunity. Man, Thank god for the Central Missouri state.

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Speaker 5: They saw something in me. Was like, look, we want

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Speaker 5: to give you a shot. We want you to come

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Speaker 5: up here to Central Missouri. First off, never heard of

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Speaker 5: Central Missouri, never thought I would be in Missouri. So

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Speaker 5: I get to Missouri madominantly white school.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Like, Well, I get there and catch like if you black,

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Speaker 5: you either play sports or ship you you you want

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Speaker 5: to be white.

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Speaker 4: So at the time.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I know, I was like, Okay, it's either

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Speaker 5: for right now. But so I get there, I stay

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Speaker 5: in the Dorn for the first year, I ain't really

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Speaker 5: meet a lot of people. But then I met this

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Speaker 5: guy named Corey Bringers, white guy. You know, Corey is

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Speaker 5: still my dog. I still I still talk to him

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Speaker 5: every once in a while. But so he plays safety

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Speaker 5: and I was like, damn, man, I want to learn

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Speaker 5: how to talk to white girls.

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Speaker 2: And he like what you mean?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he like what your I never talked to a

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Speaker 5: white girl before, right, So, like Cau's coming from where

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Speaker 5: I lived, it wasn't too many white girls. And if

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Speaker 5: it was a white girl in our neighborhood, she was

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Speaker 5: fucking busty, ratchet, disgusting. I ain't talking to at you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. She talking black and all that bullshit.

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Speaker 2: I don't want that.

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Speaker 5: So he's like, you know what, move in with me

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Speaker 5: and my roommate. So it was three of those dudes

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Speaker 5: do it. I move in with him. I never drank

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Speaker 5: natty light, I mean fireball chewing. I mean I went

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Speaker 5: up in there and my whole, my whole attitude changed

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Speaker 5: on life, Like I realized I was stuck in a box. Man,

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Speaker 5: my whole life, I've been stuck in the box, and

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Speaker 5: the Central and I lived with Corey and them, they

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Speaker 2: They pretty much showed me what I was missing out

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Speaker 2: Like it was.

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Speaker 5: I remember like some for like the fraternity dudes would

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Speaker 5: Like why you always hang with those white boys? And

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Speaker 5: I'd be mad, like them my dogs, like you know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying, in my roommates, them my boys, Like

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Speaker 5: any day you want to test them, you're gonna have

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Speaker 5: to chop it up with me, because they showed me love.

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Speaker 2: And I never seen that before.

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Speaker 5: You know, like I said, I come from the hood,

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Speaker 5: so like we've been always tall. You gotta be careful,

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Speaker 5: them because I was different. You know, they had to

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Speaker 5: was saying things I've never seen before.

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Speaker 2: That made me just be like, damn, why they doing this?

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, not understanding it, but being

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Speaker 5: all come from, right because everybody gotta value differences because

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Speaker 5: they opened my eyes to a lot of stuff, man,

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Speaker 5: and I was thankful. And then that goes to your

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Speaker 5: question on why hang like hanging with y'all because y'all

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Speaker 5: give me those vibes like it's the same. It's like,

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Speaker 5: I don't care where d he come from. I don't

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Speaker 5: like us. I fuck with him, and that's what I'm

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Speaker 2: That makes sense right there? So that's real.

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Speaker 7: Wait, I remember back in the day, I don't know

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Speaker 7: it was a couple of years ago. You talked about

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Speaker 7: how when you first got there, those boys took you

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Speaker 7: out like shopping and got your like new clothes.

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Speaker 8: You gotta you gotta least.

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Speaker 5: Yes, like I told half of it when I told

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Speaker 5: her I wanted to get white chicks. And he really

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Speaker 5: Like you look like an La like Hood movie. You

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Speaker 5: know I was wearing at this time, I was wearing

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Speaker 5: Jaebol's size forty two. I was wearing fire ix t

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Speaker 5: like the te came down to my knees, ankles, like

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about double.

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing boxers, basketball shorts.

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Speaker 5: Jeans, anything. I'm ready for anything. You know, I'm ready

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Speaker 5: for anything. So he was like, dude, you're not gonna

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Speaker 5: get no white girls out here like that. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: I'm pimping you know what I'm saying. He's like, no,

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Speaker 5: trust me you. We gotta take you to Armored Cambrie fit.

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Speaker 5: Is that how you say.

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Speaker 4: Abercmbrish, Yes, it is exactly I said.

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Speaker 5: So he takes me there. I walk in there. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: ain't nothing in here gonna fit me? Like that's what

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Speaker 5: I was thinking, because you know, you you walk in,

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Speaker 5: you know, the first thing you see the white boy

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Speaker 5: with his shirt off.

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Speaker 2: He got the jeans on no belt.

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Speaker 7: That was back when Abercombie, like the marketing for it

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Speaker 7: was literally just shirtless, ripped gans.

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Speaker 4: Smelt was crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: That's when I went in there and I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 5: for real, like for real. And then he was like,

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Speaker 5: don't worry, you know what I'm saying, tar these on.

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Speaker 2: I come out like and they kind of tight. You

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Speaker 5: Everything was tight, Everything was tight. But he gonna put

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Speaker 5: I'm like, man, nigga, nigga, don't wear open toe to

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Speaker 2: I'm swimming, I'm blowing them back. I'm going back. I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm going to all the spots like, oh yeah, it's

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Speaker 8: That's so body.

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Speaker 9: It literally feels like like it'd be like a movie,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm wearing I go back home. Cats like, well,

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 2: They like you tripping. I'm locking up the white girls.

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Speaker 2: How you doing? They're like, yeah, are you like this? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know I got these in Missouri.

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Speaker 5: They don't have them out here yet, like right, killing them,

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Speaker 2: They start switching. They let's start switching. They shot me

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Speaker 4: Gone remotely gentrifying his old neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: They all dressed like me.

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Speaker 8: Now that's so.

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Speaker 4: Go sides down, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Go sides down always like if you if you, if

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Speaker 4: Like would you change your journey at all?

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Speaker 2: Nah? Nah?

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Speaker 3: And inn't that crazy because I'm sure in those first

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Speaker 4: Then you get forward. It's like, no, that was the

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Speaker 5: But honestly, if I was to say, like that route

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Like it was hard. It

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Speaker 2: So was it the right thing for me? Maybe? You

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Speaker 5: Because going to Central opened up my eyes because Willie Fritz,

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Speaker 5: I didn't like Willie, like I didn't understand him. You know,

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Speaker 5: I didn't know what he wanted from me. As I

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Speaker 5: Because the first thing he told me and I'm sure

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Speaker 5: I come in. He goes one thing. I gotta tell you.

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Speaker 5: I was tooking back. Yeah, I was tooking back. I said,

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Speaker 2: He says, three weeks for three reasons, y'all smoked dope,

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Speaker 2: y'all rape bitches, and y'all game bangers. He didn't say bitches,

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Speaker 2: he said, he said yeah. He said everything he said,

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Speaker 2: I'm not two of those things. Here's where you got

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Speaker 5: I walked out of that room like, fuck this, dude.

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Speaker 5: I ain't even gonna lie. I said, man, fuck Willie Fritz.

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Speaker 5: I got on the phone and I called my juco coach.

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Speaker 5: I said, I made a mistake. I want to leave.

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Speaker 5: He said, d you can't leave like you you there,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, whatever i'ma I'm gonna take I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: the picture clears, he was just trying to make me

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Speaker 5: a man, right, Like I was a big ass kid

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Speaker 2: But I was fighting that right.

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Speaker 10: At what point do you think you realized what he was, like,

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Speaker 2: I left Central Missouri like fuck that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like fuck Willie Fritz, Like I don't

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Speaker 5: You know. It was just like life lessons was flashing

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Speaker 2: I growing up where I grew up.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know that's how another man would care for

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Speaker 2: Like he was hard on me, but he pushed me.

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Speaker 5: Like like I didn't get it what he was doing.

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Speaker 5: Like I ran every day on Wednesday, me and him.

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Speaker 5: He'll come get me at five thirty in the morning

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Speaker 5: and we would run and he would run with me, though,

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Speaker 5: but beat me, like just beat me, just bad. And

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Speaker 5: I'm like, he was like, until you can beat me,

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Speaker 5: We're gonna do this all day. I'm like, oh, damn me.

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Speaker 5: be like, hey, Greg, why did we lose this game?

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Speaker 5: And then he'll be like, oh, man, we had too

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Speaker 5: many turnovers. She'd be like, Nope, that's not it. He'd

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Speaker 5: be like, yeah, why would we lose this game. You'd

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Speaker 5: be like, oh, man, we didn't tackle well in the rezon. Nope,

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Speaker 5: that's not it. He'd be like, I'm gonna tell y'all all,

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Speaker 5: we lost this game because the Laney did not play well.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy, Like damn much.

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Speaker 7: Were you like head of those shoulders, the best guy

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Speaker 7: on your team?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I had crazy.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 4: Crazy, was crazy.

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Speaker 5: I was going ham but you know he knew it

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Speaker 5: so hard to sit in there and hear that over

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Speaker 2: Bro, I would sit there.

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Speaker 5: I mean we only we only lost two games my

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Speaker 2: And uh yeah. It used to be tough.

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Speaker 5: But I'll be sitting in the meeting, bro, like I

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Speaker 5: wouldn't even be zoned out.

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Speaker 5: Like because my receiver coach during h we used to

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, I don't know what that means, Like

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Speaker 10: Like perfect like coach in your position room to like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And he would do that all

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Speaker 5: the time. A third coach H hell of a coach man.

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Speaker 5: He used to him and his wife and his kids.

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Speaker 5: They would bring me to dinner every week because he

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Speaker 5: would be like, man, I know you can be.

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Speaker 5: I see it, like you're a hell of a player,

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Speaker 2: So they would just we would have dinner.

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Speaker 5: I would sit with his family, talk to his wife she,

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Speaker 5: you know, have conversations with them. Just they'd be like,

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Speaker 5: and I knew coach wasn't gonna tell the head coach

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Speaker 5: because I didn't told him stuff and he ain't never

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Speaker 5: went back, So I kind of had trust in this man.

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Speaker 5: And and UH and him and Willie you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean. They he hired Darren h just to coach me.

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Speaker 5: He literally told me, like I hired this guy so

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, what where is that coach H from? Uh?

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Speaker 5: He had just came from Arizona State, so and he

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Speaker 5: knew about me because I had took a trip up

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Speaker 5: the Arizona State So.

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Speaker 2: There H knew about me. So that's why he came

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Speaker 3: Another great story from yeah yeah, oh yeah, that was.

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Speaker 7: In your journey, Like from you Co into Central, did

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Speaker 7: you know you were always going league bound or was

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Speaker 7: there like a moment when you like you get in trouble,

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Speaker 7: to live out the last few years of a football career.

437
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 7: Like at what point were you like, oh, shit, like

438
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go to the NFL and like this is

439
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 7: gonna be a career for me.

440
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:20,920
Speaker 2: That's a good question.

441
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest with you, because like every time

442
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 5: I got in trouble, I'm like, damn, I'm probably not

443
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 5: gonna go to the league because this is gonna carry

444
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 5: this baggage is gonna carry with me. And then I'll

445
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 5: go to Juco and I'm like, I'm not thinking about

446
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 5: the league, but then I'll ball out and then coaches

447
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 5: be like, bruh, you can go to the league, Like

448
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 5: and then I hear that again, like yah, yeah, I'm

449
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 5: the shit again, you know what I'm saying, Like it

450
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 5: was like hearing it and then I didn't get the

451
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 5: grades to go to the USC, which I was supposed

452
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 5: to go to, but I didn't get the grades. Inane, yeah,

453
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 5: because it was me and Mike Williams. That's who they want.

454
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 5: They was like Mike Williams and you on the other side.

455
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 5: I'm like, hell yeah, like I was in. But that

456
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 5: didn't motivate me. See that should have motivated me to

457
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,199
Speaker 5: get the grades. But see I was still running these

458
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 5: streets thinking I was somebody I wasn't. So then I

459
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 5: go to Central Now at D two, I'm like, I'm

460
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 5: not going to the league, Like this is a rap,

461
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying. I remember my mom

462
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 5: sayd just go get get a degree and make something

463
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 5: to yourself, because you know D two right, Like.

464
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well I'm gonna do that.

465
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 5: I just wanted to get away from the city too.

466
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 5: So I go up there. My first year there, I

467
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 5: go nuts. Though, I go nuts. I don't even know

468
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 5: where this came from, you know what I'm saying. I'm

469
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 5: just I'm out there playing on just just athletic ability, right,

470
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

471
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I was out of shape. Like I did

472
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 2: the conditioning test.

473
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 5: I didn't even pass it the first year I got there,

474
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 5: I ran it every day and they just was like, dude,

475
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 5: fuck that you like you done. I didn't pass it

476
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 5: the first year. I couldn't The first year, I couldn't

477
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 5: pass it. I couldn't even lift two hundred pounds for real.

478
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't even lift two hundred pounds. I know,

479
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: it doesn't even make sense. I couldn't lift two hundred pounds.

480
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 8: We get we'll get to that.

481
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 5: So they get there and they tested me. I can't

482
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 5: even lift two hundred pounds. They're like, what the but

483
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 5: you got remember at Juco, I didn't do nothing. If people,

484
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 5: if people know me that went to Mount Sack, they

485
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 5: tell you Delaney was a star. He barely came in

486
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 5: the weight room, he barely did condition I would show

487
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 5: up to practice and practice and that was it, and

488
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 5: I leave when they had workouts. I went home, jumped

489
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 5: in the web, went home. They never told me nothing,

490
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 5: so I believe that's how it was. And then I

491
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 5: got the central and they smacked me in the face

492
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 5: like here, come on, conditioning test, get.

493
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: In the weight room.

494
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 5: I couldn't even lift two hundred pounds. They like, and

495
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 5: we brought all the players and.

496
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 2: We brought this dude in here to start. Yeah, but

497
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: guess what they put me on the field.

498
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 5: I ain't need none of that stiff arming running cats

499
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 5: over like fucking weight room.

500
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 2: I'm screaming at who who works out?

501
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 5: Nobody, you know, I'm screaming it.

502
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 10: I want to think about how, like what a cheat

503
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 10: code it was once. Still they did work out and

504
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 10: condition and everything.

505
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I want to see.

506
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: I wish you could find your like college highlights and

507
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: stuff and just sit there just because I can imagine

508
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: the people you're going against in Missouri, and it's like

509
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: this just isn't even fair.

510
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, they some people will say, like, man I played

511
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 5: against it. I see comments like man I played against

512
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 5: that ship wasn't even fair. He was like a man

513
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 5: of much giants, And it wasn't Because my senior year,

514
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 5: once I started working out and running and lifting weights.

515
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 4: For guys, at least take you down.

516
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 5: They know I'm breaking all those tell you I'm stiff

517
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 5: arming cats, I'm jumping over cast in the weight room. Yeah,

518
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 5: I start getting in that weight room now. If you

519
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 5: go to Central, I hold all the records for the

520
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 5: wide receivers because I I didn't. That first year, I

521
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 5: ain't even care.

522
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: I was beat every game.

523
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 5: I'm like, god, damn, I can't walk, you know what

524
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 5: I'm saying. It was just like maybe I need to

525
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 5: start working out, you know. And then I remember the

526
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 5: off season, I didn't go home because I didn't have

527
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 5: no money. My mom didn't have money to fly me home.

528
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 5: So they got me a job at this car at

529
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 5: this dealership. But my job was just to drive brand

530
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 5: new cars every week, right, so like just so I

531
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,719
Speaker 5: can have money. So like the dude didn't come in.

532
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 5: He also gave me a house to stay in. Like, yeah,

533
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 5: the guy was hell of cool. He was I guess

534
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 5: he was like a booster for the I wish I

535
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 5: knew his name to give him a shot out.

536
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I don't, but he's.

537
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 5: Probably listening to So yeah, I'm sure his daughter because

538
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 5: his daughter. So his daughter lived in that house and

539
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 5: he brought her a new house, so they had moved

540
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 5: out and let us move in there. And I, you know,

541
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 5: I met his daughter and stuff, and he would just

542
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 5: be like, hey, come pick up a car and I'll

543
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 5: drive it. And when I dropped it out, he's like,

544
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 5: you think of college shooting by this car. I'm like,

545
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 5: oh yeah, yeah, most definitely, you know this.

546
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: I loved it. He'd be like, all right, now it's

547
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 2: a minivan, go check that out.

548
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 5: So I'll draw different cars on off season. But I

549
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 5: was working my tail off because I was there. So

550
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 5: they like, since you hear, you need to come up

551
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 5: here every day. So I'll go up there every day

552
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 5: watching film. It just be me and the coaches. I'll

553
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 5: work out with them. They'll all run with me, like

554
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 5: cause they knew the motivation, like we can make this

555
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 5: guy the player we know he could be.

556
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: Oh man, he'll be unstoppable.

557
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 5: So that my senior year, I gave all the credit

558
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 5: to those coaches, and I'll tell y'all to this day

559
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 5: like I still do because they they pushed me. They

560
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 5: motivated me to get in the weight room, to condition,

561
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 5: to study defenses. Man, am I'm telling y'all, when I

562
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 5: first started playing, I didn't even watch film.

563
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 2: I ain't do none of that.

564
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 5: I just went out there, like, man, they can only

565
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 5: do all they can only do four coverages, cover two

566
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 5: cloud two man like man, are three right?

567
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 4: And they can't cover me?

568
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: And they can't cover me.

569
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 5: You know what? I mean, so I looked at it

570
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 5: as I just knew the game, but once I studied it,

571
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 5: oh man, it was scouts start coming. I start seeing

572
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 5: it because they used to be like, you put it into work,

573
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 5: you're gonna start seeing the rewards, right, And I start

574
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 5: seeing the rewards, they'd be like, Yo, look Arizona, Arizona here,

575
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers here.

576
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 2: I'll be like, for real, So, was there ever?

577
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 10: Okay, so you're talking about NFL after Central Missouri, Like

578
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 10: obviously you think like you ended with a good season.

579
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 10: What was the process like going into the NFL? Like

580
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 10: combine draft process like all of that? Were you just

581
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 10: like did anyone guide you in that direction? Or you're

582
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 10: just kind of like, shit, I don't know how this

583
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 10: is gonna work, but I hope it does.

584
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: No.

585
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 5: So, like by the second game of the season, I

586
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 5: had came out in the ESPN magazine as.

587
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: A sleeper, and the whole school passed out magazine. It

588
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: was crazy.

589
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 4: I walked around Magazine two at that time was.

590
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 5: The magazine, and I'm in there like I got my

591
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 5: own kind of page, like.

592
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 8: A sleeper wearing rainbows.

593
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, people like yo, this shoe, they like

594
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: this shoe. I'm like, I didn't even know it was out.

595
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, hell, yeah, where you get this from?

596
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 5: They like, oh, they handed them out for free. I'm

597
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 5: like they like, can you sign it? So I sign it?

598
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 5: And I remember going to class and one of my

599
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 5: professors go, why.

600
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: Are you here? I go, we got class. She's like, no,

601
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: you're about to be rich. I said what. She's like, yeah,

602
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: the ESPN magazine. Everyone's handing them out. I'm like, oh yeah,

603
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I get me any money yet. Yeah.

604
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 5: I'm like I'm like, it's just a magazine. You know,

605
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 5: we still got two more games.

606
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: Did you keep a copy of it? My mom? Yeah,

607
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: my mom got a copy of it, and yeah it is.

608
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 7: I like to be a moment too, from like from

609
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 7: how you've grown up, Like every moment where you've gotten

610
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 7: a little bit of notoriety, you kind of like revert

611
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 7: back to how you were and then like you're sitting

612
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 7: and you just like why are you here?

613
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 8: And you're maybe for.

614
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 7: Like the first time, you're like no, like this is

615
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 7: the beginning, Like I'm here because of this.

616
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

617
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how I kind of felt, because, like you said,

618
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 5: every time I got.

619
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: A little bit of notoriety.

620
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 5: I almost reverted back to being an asshole, you know

621
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 5: what I mean. So at this point I looked at

622
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 5: it as an accomplishment, but I'm like.

623
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: Nothing happened.

624
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 5: These are just words and pictures, right, Like everybody took

625
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 5: it and ran with it, but I didn't. And then

626
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 5: when agents start calling me, it kind of almost start

627
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 5: going off. I'm like, man, who the hell calling me

628
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 5: from Houston? Like just crazy number. I answered, Hey, I'm

629
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 5: an agent that man. You seen you came out ESPN magazine.

630
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 5: What's your plans?

631
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I need to talk to my coach first.

632
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 5: They're like, oh, if you tell your coach, you know

633
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 5: he gonna tell you don't talk to me because we

634
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 5: still had two games left.

635
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, I ain't gonna tell my coach.

636
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 5: Lying I go tell Willa, yeah, because I just don't

637
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 5: want to get in trouble because I heard people getting

638
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 5: in trouble. Reggie Bush had took some money and all

639
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 5: of that craziness. So I was like, hey, Willy, I'm

640
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 5: having agents call me. He like, don't you talk to

641
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 5: no agents. I'm like, I'm not. That's why I'm telling

642
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 5: you sir, like out of respect, He's like, when you

643
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 5: need an agent, I'm gonna have an agent for you.

644
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: I said, okay. Cool. I kind of took it as

645
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: that and was like cool. So the season over, the.

646
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 5: D two Bowl come out where all the top D

647
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 5: two players playing in this bowl. And at this point,

648
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 5: I'm talking to agents now because I'm like, shit, I

649
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 5: need to figure out what's going on. Because Willie wanted

650
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 5: me to talk to his guy, but I wanted to

651
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 5: hear from other guys. Right, So I called about three

652
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 5: agents and they said, do not playing that D two Bowl.

653
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: They said, you're better than that.

654
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 5: You're gonna get accepted into the D one Bowl, All

655
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 5: Star Ball whatever.

656
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, you sure.

657
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 5: They like your name is buzzing to not playing that bowl. So,

658
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 5: long story shortcomes I get invited to the ball, they

659
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 5: bring me up, they do the whole Dwayne Walker All

660
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 5: Star Bull D two Bowl, and then I get up like, hey,

661
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 5: I just want to thank everybody.

662
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 2: I couldn't do this without the old line quarterbacks, right.

663
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 5: My other receivers like, I'm thankful, but I will not

664
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 5: be playing in a D two Bowl, and Willie went nuh.

665
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 5: He was like, we need to talk after this. So

666
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 5: we're going heat showing me out. You ain't not gonna

667
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 5: represent the school in D two. Boy, I said, I'm

668
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 5: gonna get in the I'm gonna be in the D

669
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 5: one Bowl. He like, no, how you know you ain't.

670
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 5: They ain't handling them out yet. I'm like, I know

671
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 5: for a fact I'm getting in one. He like, you

672
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 5: been talking to an agent. I'm like, I have been

673
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 5: talking to a few agents that told me that my

674
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 5: name is buzzing. He like, they just saying that they

675
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 5: want you to sign with him. They all just saying that.

676
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 5: Don't believe them. You're not gonna make it to a

677
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 5: D one Bowl. So when he said that, I was

678
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,479
Speaker 5: kind of like, what, you don't think I'm that good?

679
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: And like I'm just don't want you to be highs.

680
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 5: And then the lows come and I'm like, Okay, I'm

681
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 5: gonna think about it, but I'm not. Don't sign the paperwork,

682
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 5: don't do nothing yet. So then my agent that I

683
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 5: signed with, Vincent Taylor. I remember talking to him the

684
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 5: most because he would just be like, look, you talented,

685
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 5: It's up to you. He will always tell me it's

686
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 5: up to you. You do what you want. I only

687
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 5: get paid when you get paid. Everybody else was trying

688
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 5: to tell me this money shit, but he was the

689
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 5: only honest one. So I said, can you come to Central,

690
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 5: Can you come to Missouri and meet me? Can we

691
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 5: meet in person? He said, I'm on I'm on the plane.

692
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 5: So he came over. We met in person and he

693
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 5: was talking about the D one Bow and he I'll say, look,

694
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 5: I have other agents told me I shouldn't play in

695
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 5: the D two Bowl because if I get hurt, I

696
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,239
Speaker 5: won't be able to play in the D one Bow.

697
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: He said, that is true.

698
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 5: He said, I've been hearing noise about you getting into

699
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 5: this D one Bowl, but it ain't They ain't pulled

700
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 5: the list yet. I said, so, do you think I

701
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 5: should play in the D two Bowl? He's like, nah,

702
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 5: I don't think you should. I think you're gonna be

703
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 5: in this D one Bowl. So I'm like, okay, I'm

704
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 5: gonna run with that. I said, can you meet Willie Fritz?

705
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 5: He said, oh, yeah, I definitely meet WILLI so him

706
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 5: and Melly with him and Willy talked. He telled Willie

707
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 5: to leave. He pulled me in. He said, I don't

708
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 5: like that guy. I go why. He's like, he's only

709
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 5: about money. Look at him.

710
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: He's flashy. He got a purple suit on him. I'm like, yeah,

711
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: I kind of like that suit.

712
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, I kind of like that. I think

713
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 5: he looked clean. He's like, no, you need to meet

714
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 5: my guy. Don't sign with him until you meet my guy,

715
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 5: said Coach, just because you put me in this position,

716
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 5: I'm gonna meet your guy, I won't sign with him.

717
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 5: So I go out and go, Vince, stay here. I'm

718
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 5: gonna meet with his guy tomorrow. I'm gonna make my decision.

719
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 5: So we go to the steakhouse. Will he pay for

720
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 5: all this stuff? His guy comes, Man, his guy comes

721
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 5: with Daisy Duke shorts on flip flops.

722
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, the lady on a Saturday.

723
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. I see him coming out. I'm like that

724
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: bet n not be him. This dude comes up to me.

725
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: He comes up. I'm like, you the agent. He's like, yeah,

726
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: I'm the agent.

727
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 5: I work with Rod Green and all these other people

728
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 5: that Rod went to the NFL too.

729
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh okay.

730
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 5: He's like, look, man, you're not gonna get in that

731
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 5: D one Bowl, so you should play in that D

732
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 5: two Bowl. I'm telling you right now that I really

733
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 5: told me you had buzz. There's no buzz going on

734
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 5: about you playing in the D one Bowl. I said,

735
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 5: all right, that's all right, we're done. I said, hey,

736
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 5: we're done, Thanks for coming out.

737
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: I'll leave. He calls with, what you disrespect my friend?

738
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 2: Like that?

739
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 5: I'm like, will he told me I wasn't gonna go

740
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 5: to D one Bowl. He said, I wasn't gonna get drafted. Like,

741
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 5: if you don't, if he don't believe in me, I

742
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 5: don't believe in.

743
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 10: Him, why would he talk to you if he doesn't

744
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 10: think you're gonna go any like?

745
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 5: That's what I said that he told me I wasn't

746
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 5: gonna get drafted. He said, I'm probably gonna fall as

747
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 5: a free agent, and I wasn't, And there's no buzz

748
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 5: about me going to the D one Bow. So I said, okay,

749
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 5: thank you. I said thank you. That's all I needed

750
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 5: to hear. He was the only agent that kind of

751
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 5: came o. I'm nervous to hear how this ends.

752
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So then I really get at me.

753
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 5: Boom boom boom. I go, I go to Vincent's hotel.

754
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 5: I'm like, we're the paperwork. I'm about to sign with

755
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 5: you today, like I'm done with this ship. He's like,

756
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 5: what happened. I'm like, it don't even matter. You know

757
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, It don't matter. Let's go.

758
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: So I signed with him. He leaves. I tell Coach

759
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: H first, I go with Coach H. I signed with Vincent.

760
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 5: He goes, I like Vincent because I even had Coach

761
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 5: H meet him and he was like, I like Vincent.

762
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: Vincent was a good guy. So then he goes, you

763
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: need to tell Willie though, I go, man, I'm scared

764
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: to tell.

765
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, freaking out.

766
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 5: I was scared, just like the phone like he was like,

767
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 5: don't call him, go to his office.

768
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, god, I'm scared.

769
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was shook. I was shoot because after what

770
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 5: I did to his friend too.

771
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm fucking shook. So I'm like, long story show.

772
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, I'm doing it. I don't care, man,

773
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 5: it is, I'm a singer.

774
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: I'm done. Like, I go up in there, he waiting,

775
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: come on.

776
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 8: You wearing the purple there, look the boy with Sweatnson

777
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 8: like this.

778
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: I come through the door. He's like, god, I'm sweating.

779
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 5: Go in confident as soon as he does that, I'm like, damn,

780
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 5: he just he rips me a new one, like how

781
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 5: disrespectful am I to do?

782
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: His friend like that.

783
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 5: I brought you here, I'll put you in this situation,

784
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 5: and now you're about to sign with this guy. I'm

785
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 5: telling you right now, this dude is gonna end. He's

786
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 5: gonna mess up your career. I'm like, yes, sir, I

787
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 5: hear you, like I always respect never I'm like, yes, sir, yes, sir,

788
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 5: You're right. That's something I'm gonna have to deal with

789
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 5: if it happens. Like okay, well I'm telling you. He's like,

790
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 5: you better not leave school. You better finish. I'm like, yeah, yeah,

791
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 5: I'm gonna finish. So after that conversation, I go back

792
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 5: to the house and I'm telling all my roommates like, man,

793
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 5: he just like I need to finish this and that.

794
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 5: But Vince was already telling me he about to fly

795
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 5: me to Houston and start training. So I was like,

796
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 5: I don't even know how to say this, and they

797
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 5: was like you should just go to Houston. Like all

798
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 5: my roommates like, fuck, don't even tell Willie, like lead

799
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 5: so if you see this.

800
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: So then Vince was like.

801
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 5: With how you feel you want to finish school or

802
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 5: you want to go train, because like I feel like

803
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 5: you need to train. You about to play against D

804
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 5: one players, and I'm like, I'd rather go train. So

805
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 5: then I moved to Houston and uh start training at

806
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 5: Pleux for eight months and yeah, yeah, I was living

807
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 5: in Houston, not going to school. I was just training

808
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 5: and uh they sent my mom a bill Central Missouri

809
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 5: State then, but they took it back though after after

810
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 5: my agent and they lawyers got they took that ship back.

811
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 5: But they sent my mom a bill. My mom got

812
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 5: a bill for like three hundred some thousand. Like, what

813
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 5: is this? Holy shit, I'm like, what you mean. She's like,

814
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 5: Central Missouri just sent me a bill for three hundred thousand.

815
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 5: I said, I went to school for free. She said,

816
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 5: I know what is this bill. I'm like, hold on,

817
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 5: send it to me. I got my agent Vincent on it.

818
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, hell no, that's not about to happen.

819
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 5: And uh, they they pulled it back, said it was

820
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 5: a mistake. They made a mistake. That wasn't supposed to

821
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 5: being sent out to them. It was supposed to be

822
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 5: picked up by the administration. They was gonna pay for

823
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 5: but somehow that got sent to my mom, and uh,

824
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 5: that pissed me off.

825
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna lie. That pissed me off.

826
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 5: And uh, for the first few years, I ain't say

827
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 5: even since I wouldn't say Central even on Monday night games,

828
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even be like, oh, Central Missouri State Mules

829
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 5: like I would never I was just like put on

830
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 5: the high school, you know, because that's that I feel

831
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: like they did me wrong. But again, you know, like

832
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 5: I did them wrong, like it was vice versas, Like

833
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 5: he told me to stay in school and I did

834
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 5: it right.

835
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: You know.

836
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 5: I needed to train though, like I was training with

837
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 5: all D one players once I went to Plex. I

838
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 5: was around all these top athletes and almost keeping up

839
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 5: with them. So I'm like getting confident, like, oh this

840
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 5: ain't this, ain't this, ain't nothing. I'm about to I'm

841
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 5: about to shine, you know what I mean. So then

842
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 5: I play in that D one Bowl game. Guess who

843
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 5: the head coach, Jim Horball. Yeah so man, so Jim

844
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 5: Harball the head coach.

845
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: He loves me. He like you do everything. I was

846
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: doing everything.

847
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 5: With him, and he was just like, dude, you you

848
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 5: should get drafted, Like he would tell me that, like,

849
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 5: you can play multiple positions. They had me at running back,

850
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 5: tight end, receiver, all that, and uh so then I

851
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 5: go to the Combine. I got invited to the Combine

852
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 5: after that Bowl because I put on a play.

853
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: They was like, who the hell was.

854
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 5: Just Dlayney Walker coming out of nowhere making catches, making plays.

855
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: I get invited to the Combine.

856
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 7: What's the feeling like when you finally get that invite

857
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 7: and you're like, all the ship you've gone through, whether

858
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 7: it's self inflicted or like battling with coaches, and just

859
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 7: like the university, what's that feeling where you're just like, like.

860
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: I have an opportunity to go to the show.

861
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 5: No, it was like better than sex, you know what

862
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 5: I'm saying that, Yeah, it was like because you know

863
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 5: that that feeling that sex is.

864
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: The best feeling in the world.

865
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 5: But this this feeling that I got knowing that because

866
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 5: my Vince would say, you put into work, it's gonna

867
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 5: all come to you.

868
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: Because when he I'll be like.

869
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 5: Man, I don't want to go to Houston and train,

870
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 5: Like trust me, you put in the work, it's gonna come.

871
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 5: And I remember when he hit me like, there you

872
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 5: going to the com I look, I'm getting goose bump

873
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 5: on my legs already, Like I'm like what, he like,

874
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: you made it?

875
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: I like, I'm tearing up, you know what I'm saying.

876
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 5: I'm on the phone tearing up, like I can't believe it, man,

877
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 5: I can't believe it was right.

878
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: He's like, no, it was all you. It wasn't me.

879
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: I ain't do nothing. You did that.

880
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 5: And I just just chill like I'm like, God, damn,

881
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 5: I fucking made it, you know what I'm saying.

882
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: I'm crying. I'm telling myself like I made it. And

883
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: then I called my mom like Mom, I'm going to

884
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: the comba, I'm be on TV. She's like, what you go?

885
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 2: You made it.

886
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, I made it. I'm gonna I'm gonna. This

887
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 5: is my opportunity. I'm gonna take advantage. I'm getting drafted.

888
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 5: And I just kept saying it like I'm getting drafted.

889
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: This is they put me in. Yeah, they put me in.

890
00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: They made a mistake.

891
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 5: Now I gotta show up and uh, the journey just

892
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 5: you know, the journey taught. It came, you know it came,

893
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 5: and I've rolled that thing. Boy, I rolled that that

894
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 5: mustang like, I ain't letting go. You know what I'm saying.

895
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 7: When you went to the combins a receiver at this time? Yes,

896
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 7: and so what point did you transition receiver to tight end?

897
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 7: Was that a couple years into the league or was

898
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 7: that right when you went to forty nine ers?

899
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm glad you said that.

900
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 5: So, like when I got to the combine, we had

901
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 5: a trainer named Danny Arnold. Danny Arnold at the time

902
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 5: was one of the best trainers in football. He goes,

903
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 5: you may be a receiver, but I think you may

904
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 5: play tight end.

905
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: How big are you at this time two twenty so

906
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: like six?

907
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 5: And he goes, I think they may put you at

908
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 5: tight end. I go, man, why you think that? He like,

909
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 5: I just hear it's a lot of noise about you

910
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 5: playing tight end. So he was putting me through the

911
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 5: ringer of like working out. By the time I get

912
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 5: to the combine, I'm two thirty five.

913
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 4: Pounds.

914
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm in there.

915
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 5: Because he was like, you could either be a David Boston.

916
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 5: Are you going to be a tight end? That's what

917
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 5: he used to call me all the time, David Boston.

918
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 5: You David Boston used to say that, David Boston.

919
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't take stare with David Boston. Yea,

920
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: I don't do that. But uh so he was saying that.

921
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 5: And then I get drafted as a receiver with the

922
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 5: forty nine ers because it was all through. They told

923
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 5: me it was all because of my forty times. My

924
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 5: forty time was good, so they drafted me. It was

925
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 5: at forty time, full four to seven or full forty

926
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 5: nine type shit.

927
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: Yet Rick mitch.

928
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 5: So and then I get to the forty nine Ers.

929
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 5: We two three weeks and I'm playing receiver. I'm wearing

930
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 5: number seventeen.

931
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: We had Mike.

932
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 5: Martz as an offensive coordinator, and I was with Mike

933
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 5: Nolan as.

934
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: A head seventeen. Yeah, I was wearing seventeen, seventeen to

935
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: forty six.

936
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so seventeen right, and then I call in

937
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 5: the locker room, I come in.

938
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: Oh so I go home. We come in the next day.

939
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 5: I used to get there early because they wanted me

940
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 5: to do a workout and stuff early, you know, rookies.

941
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 5: Got I get there and I'm like, damn, they move

942
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 5: my jersey, they move my locker because I see forty six,

943
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 5: and I'm.

944
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 2: Like, damn.

945
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 5: They move my locker and they're like, no, no, no,

946
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 5: you you forty six. You need to get your playbook

947
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 5: and go see Mike Bartz. I'm like, for what, I'm

948
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 5: getting cut. They're like, no, no, you're not getting cut.

949
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 5: Go just go talk to them. So I go up there.

950
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 5: He's like, I know you saw the jersey. I was like, yeah,

951
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 5: I don't really like that.

952
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 7: Numbers go from seventeen forty six.

953
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: That's like, it's like, I'm getting cut.

954
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 4: I got about one more week.

955
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like I'm getting cut, Like that's all.

956
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 8: I was thinking, You're right, man, I'm sorry, finished school.

957
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 5: Yeah. So saying there, I'm like Jesus Christ, I said,

958
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 5: I don't really like that number. Like I literally because

959
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: I'm thinking he was cool, like Mart's was cool, but

960
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 5: he wasn't cool right now. He's like I don't give

961
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 5: a fuck. I was like, oh damn shit, Oh we're

962
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 5: not cool right now. He's like, no, we're moving you

963
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 5: to tight end the h back. You ever heard of it?

964
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 5: I said, nah, I never heard him. He said, well

965
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 5: you better learn we're gonna cut your ass, all right,

966
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 5: go fuck forty six of this just like that cold.

967
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, oh, you're not joking, okay, like cause

968
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 5: he was joking. He's joke a lot when I first

969
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 5: got there, but now he's not even said So as

970
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 5: soon as I get in, I get on the phone, Man,

971
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 5: I'm about to get cut. You gotta start looking for

972
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 5: another team. He like, what do you mean? I say,

973
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 5: they just moved me to tight end. He goes, okay,

974
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 5: I can't play tight and he said, d I ain't

975
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 5: never seen you fold for anything.

976
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: You're gonna fold today.

977
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 5: Over a number, well over a position change. I said, man,

978
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 5: I never played the position.

979
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: I said.

980
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 5: They got Vernon Davis like, you have seen this guy?

981
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 5: He like six three, two hundred seventy pounds.

982
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 2: Like I can't.

983
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 5: I can't do what he's doing. He was like, I

984
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 5: never seen you quit on anything. Showed me show them

985
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 5: who the fuck you are. I said, you know what, Vince,

986
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 5: You're right. I'm gonna go out there. I gonna be

987
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 5: the best non blocking tight end I can be, because

988
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 5: that's I.

989
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: Didn't know how to block. Right.

990
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 5: So I get out there, I'm getting cussed out like

991
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 5: a doll bro. I'm missing every playoff step all. Oh yeah,

992
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 5: stepping the wrong way. One game they put me in

993
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 5: a game. I can't even believe it. Right, they put

994
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 5: me in the game that year for my rookie year

995
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 5: as a lead blocker. I go the wrong way. You

996
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 5: hear Frank gord Man, what do you you do? He's

997
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 5: getting the ball because I ran the wrong way. Frank

998
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 5: Gore screaming at me during the play because I'm going

999
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 5: that way. I was supposed to go that way. Because

1000
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 5: I ain't know what the hell I had. They threw

1001
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 5: me in a game. I don't even think I practiced

1002
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 5: this play one time. I'm like, what you didn't want

1003
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 5: to You didn't want to ask?

1004
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: Where do I go? Nah? Nah?

1005
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 4: Jim Harball said, who's got it better than us? Whoever?

1006
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 4: Delaney's supposed to be blocking?

1007
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: But uh was har about the head coach your rookie year?

1008
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 5: No, No, it was Mike Nolan was the head coach

1009
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 5: by rookie year. Mike Marts was the offense coordinated And

1010
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 5: I don't know why they threw me in on the

1011
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 5: offensive play because I only played special teams really, and

1012
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 5: for some reason, they was like I was standing there,

1013
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 5: Uh to Pete Pete Pete Hayner was my coach position. Coach,

1014
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 5: he go, you win.

1015
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm like me, I'm literally like me. He like, get

1016
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: the hell in there. I'm like, oh running, I'm like,

1017
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: I hear the play, I'm like, oh ship.

1018
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 8: Let's scary ship. Ever, bro, the whole stadium is just

1019
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 8: so loud, and.

1020
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 4: Then it's gonna be it.

1021
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: No idea.

1022
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: I feel you no idea too. You're like, I don't

1023
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: want to be that guy.

1024
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 5: I didn't want to be that guy just getting to

1025
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 5: play the first time at least no it was Alex Smith.

1026
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 11: And then you have a legend like Frank Gorele just

1027
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 11: like yelling at you midplay.

1028
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh ship. Like so I go to the right,

1029
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 5: which I was already messed up. I was supposed to

1030
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 5: go to the left and motion to the right, but

1031
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 5: I went to the right, motion.

1032
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: To the left.

1033
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 5: He probably he probably when he saw me on that side,

1034
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: he probably like, Okay, the clock must be down blindy

1035
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 5: over there.

1036
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: But once I motioned, I hear him go. I hear

1037
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 2: him say something like that. I look back at the ball.

1038
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: I didn't block nobody neither, because it wasn't nobody to block.

1039
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 4: This might be easier than he thought. He was getting

1040
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 4: the ball.

1041
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: I kind of ran my hands up. They're like, why

1042
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: the fuck you is throwing your hands up?

1043
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 7: You ran the road, they pull you pulled me out.

1044
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 2: That the only place the whole time, that whole game.

1045
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 4: You're forty six, you're forty seven.

1046
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I'm getting cut. I'm gonna get

1047
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 5: cut after this game. They but I remember my tight

1048
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 5: end coach that you lucky, you a hell of a

1049
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 5: special teams player, because they I was telling them to

1050
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 5: get rid of you, like.

1051
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 8: Even in your year.

1052
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 7: Do you think that, uh Fritz, like all that bullshit

1053
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 7: that you had to like endure through college and him

1054
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 7: like frying you in front of the team like almost

1055
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 7: set you up for success, Like because like every.

1056
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 8: NFL coach is gonna dog cuss you if you mess up.

1057
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 7: So like in a way, did it ever kind of

1058
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,959
Speaker 7: be like damn, like maybe like he was a great

1059
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 7: coach for me.

1060
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: No, he was a great coach for he was on

1061
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: some NFL shit.

1062
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 5: He normalized me from being like bothered by getting cussed

1063
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 5: the fuck out, like because at first I used to

1064
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 5: get mad when he cussed me out, but then they

1065
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 5: started to just be like, Okay, it's normal, he's just

1066
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 5: cussing me out. So then when they got to the

1067
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 5: NFL and the coach cussed me out, I just be like,

1068
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 5: well he cussing me out, it's a good thing, you

1069
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.

1070
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: That's what I started.

1071
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 5: Thinking, like, well, he want me here because he cussing

1072
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 5: me out. Like if I can't put you in the

1073
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 5: game because you don't know what you like, they would

1074
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 5: they will always say that, like my first year, we

1075
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 5: can't put you in if you don't know what the

1076
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 5: hell you doing. And I just spoke back one time like, man,

1077
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 5: give me some reps, then you know what I'm saying,

1078
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,280
Speaker 5: and that he was kind of like.

1079
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 2: You want reps? All right, We're gonna get you fucking reps.

1080
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: And that's that's how it started.

1081
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: Who would you say was like your best, your most

1082
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: influential role model?

1083
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 5: I like coach Wise, p ain't. Oh my god, Painter

1084
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 5: turned me into this dog I was not. I was

1085
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 5: a receiver. I was a pussy foot receiver. I like,

1086
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 5: I would break tackles and steff farm people, but I

1087
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 5: would never go stick my head in there. Now I

1088
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 5: will worry about getting my toes stepped on, like hurting

1089
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 5: my hands. I was like a pretty boy receiver at

1090
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 5: the time, and so becoming the tight end, I would

1091
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 5: be blocking on my tippy toe. He'd be like, right,

1092
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 5: you're scared to get your feet stepped on, Like I'll

1093
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 5: step on your feet right now, like stuff like that.

1094
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 5: I'm like, what the hell? And he just he would

1095
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 5: just make us. He made us dogs like he He

1096
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 5: just was like, we're gonna hit.

1097
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: I don't care.

1098
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 5: We're hitting every day, so we'll come out hitting just

1099
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 5: each other, just because he was like, y'all gonna be tough.

1100
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 5: One thing we gonna be is the tough his dudes

1101
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 5: on this team. And Pete Hanter was that guy. He

1102
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 5: taught me how to play the position. He taught me

1103
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 5: how to be good at the position. He just was

1104
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 5: a great coach.

1105
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: You talked about when you got drafted there and then

1106
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: they moved you to tight end, Uh, like Vernon Davis

1107
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: being there, and like, obviously we all know how tight

1108
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: you were with Vernon, but is there any like vern

1109
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: stories you can share that, like you're able to share that,

1110
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: it won't if you're like you said, man, Vernon was

1111
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: like like that we was that was my dog, Like Honestly,

1112
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: people thought I was, like, it's homie.

1113
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 12: They didn't think I played for the Titans like your

1114
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 12: stories you tell us Vernon.

1115
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah so funny.

1116
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, they thought like I was the homie because like

1117
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 5: somebody tried to press Vernon. You know what I'm saying,

1118
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 5: I'll run over there and just start.

1119
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: Fighting him, like you know what I'm saying.

1120
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 5: Because my dog was like like Vernon will be like,

1121
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 5: we'll play a game, say we just played at Candlestick,

1122
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 5: and he'd be like, bro, you want to go to Vegas.

1123
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: I'm like like right now, like y'all got private jet,

1124
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: let's go.

1125
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 5: Don't bring no clothes. I'm gonna buy him for you.

1126
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 5: I'm like, what, like, y'all, I'm gonna get all your

1127
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 5: ship the word, let's go, and.

1128
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 2: We'll go to Vegas. Turn up, he get a big

1129
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: old villa. You know what I'm saying. We packing that

1130
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 2: thing out, I mean packing it out and uh clothes.

1131
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: My dog did a lot.

1132
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 5: You know, my dog would do all types of shit,

1133
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 5: but a story, if I could tell a story, man,

1134
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 5: we didn't.

1135
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 4: We actually really didn't do that much out there.

1136
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 5: We used to, like Vernon, you know, with his situation.

1137
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 5: I never want to mess up what he got going

1138
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 5: on with his fiance and stuff. So like all everything

1139
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 5: we ever done was epic, you know what I mean?

1140
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 5: It was we had fun with epic, like Vernon was.

1141
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 2: Ben. Vernon was like, I know, I wasn't his brother.

1142
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 5: I can never take his brother's spot because him and

1143
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 5: Vante was like that too, But like at that point

1144
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 5: we was like bros.

1145
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: Like we did everything together. I mean everything.

1146
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 4: He gave you car, right to drive around and oh.

1147
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, he would let me drive his cars. But we

1148
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 5: had a we had a white homeboy named Brandon. He

1149
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 5: can probably see this because he follow our content and Brandon, Yeah,

1150
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 5: and he gave he gave Brandon a hell Cat Challenger.

1151
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 5: Just get hell yeah hell Cat Challenger, Like.

1152
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: I wanted it. I wanted that. I wanted that.

1153
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 7: Car like he gave around with Vernon. You're like, damn,

1154
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 7: Like I'm so glad, I'm tight end.

1155
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 5: Like yeah, you know, every time we went out to

1156
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 5: like food, bottles whatever, he paid for it. So I

1157
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 5: was like, damn, thankful, you know what I'm saying. Thankful

1158
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 5: that I walked into this room with him. But the

1159
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 5: first time I met Vernon, he didn't know how to

1160
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 5: deal with me, because y'all know I'm kind of crazy,

1161
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So, like, the first time

1162
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 5: I meet Vernon, he shakes my hand, but he domned

1163
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 5: there break my fucking fingers right, and I'm like, damn, cuz,

1164
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 5: don't ever shake my hand like.

1165
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: That jokingly with him. He looked at me like what

1166
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: the hell. I'm like, no, I'll with you, big dog, like,

1167
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: don't hand But then I was like, yo, for.

1168
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 5: Real, don't do that again, though, bro, Like because he

1169
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 5: and he squeezed tho, I'm like.

1170
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 4: He's making sure you don't take a spot.

1171
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, damn, bron, I'm like, don't squeeze my

1172
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 5: heat like what I'm like, bro, I'm fucking with you,

1173
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 5: but no, but don't ever do that ship again.

1174
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean that just kind of goes to show, like

1175
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: because he's he went to Maryland, but is he from

1176
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: the East Coast? Yeah, he from DC, but it's just

1177
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: like you being from LA and yeah, it's like that's

1178
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: just the melting part of the NFL.

1179
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna get y'all story because I don't even care.

1180
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 5: Fucking it is what it is. Okay, So Vernie used

1181
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 5: to have.

1182
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 4: This is the one when you went to the gay party.

1183
00:52:51,560 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 5: Right, No, I have fun at that party. Uh uh No,

1184
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 5: I wasn't with So Vernie used to.

1185
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: Have the Vernon David Weekend in DC. And I mean,

1186
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: like these these parties blowouts crazy.

1187
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 5: So like Vernie used to have, he would rent out

1188
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 5: the whole hotel for all all the athletes, all the

1189
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 5: friends and stuff, and and downstairs it will be like

1190
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 5: fifty girls waiting in the lobby.

1191
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: But whoever. I mean, like.

1192
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, this happened in like two thousand and eight,

1193
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 5: y'all two thousand and nine, so even long ago, a

1194
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 5: long time ago. And you know, you take a girl up.

1195
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 5: So we all had two rooms capacity sold out.

1196
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all got two rooms. Go up.

1197
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 5: You take the one you've been chilling with all through

1198
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 5: half the day, knock her down, go downstairs, find that

1199
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 5: other one you've been talking to, take them upstairs.

1200
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought, I ain't gonna care. I try.

1201
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: I almost moved to DC. This was a trade. I'm like, hey, no,

1202
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, Vernon, where should I get a house at?

1203
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: He like, don't move here.

1204
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 5: I'm like you sure, like, don't do it because Vernon

1205
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 5: weekends was the best weekends I've never seen. I've never

1206
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 5: been a part of anything like that other than his weekends.

1207
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about every year.

1208
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 5: Every year, cats walking butt ass naked in the hallways.

1209
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: Not me, I.

1210
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 5: Don't get down like that, but some cats, do you

1211
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 5: know I'm talking about you come out, they just walking

1212
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 5: butt naked to the to the other room.

1213
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: You're like, what the.

1214
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 5: No, Welcome to DC. Chocolate City?

1215
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 4: Is that what they're calling it.

1216
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: That's what they call it, Chocolate City?

1217
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 8: Like, we're kind of.

1218
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 7: Like skipping ahead. But I mean, you have you have

1219
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 7: such a long career. We have to we obviously have

1220
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 7: to get a little Titans sock can. When you got

1221
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 7: traded to the Titans, what was your initial thoughts.

1222
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 5: I knew Chris Johnson, so when I got traded to

1223
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 5: the Titans, I'm like, so, the only thing I remember

1224
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 5: about Titans they came to San Francisco and beat our ass.

1225
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: Chris Johnson, Yeah, Chris Jawnson went nuts.

1226
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 5: And Randy Moss I don't even know, he had a

1227
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 5: field day that game with Collins. Y'all had Collins that quarterback,

1228
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 5: So I'm.

1229
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 4: Like'sure friend of the show.

1230
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, Okay, the Titans. I'm going to the Titans.

1231
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: I didn't care.

1232
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 5: I didn't say nothing about the record. And now I'm

1233
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 5: like Chris Johnson, that's all. I was like, Like, they

1234
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 5: got Chris Johnson, were about to be cold in the motherfucker.

1235
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: But then I got out.

1236
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 8: Here, ken it was.

1237
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 5: It was it was munchack. So I got here and

1238
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 5: and I realized it was the organized like it was

1239
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 5: a lot going on that a lot of people don't

1240
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 5: see because you're outside looking in.

1241
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 7: But it was the facilities going from San Francisco to Nashville.

1242
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 2: Night and day.

1243
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 5: I mean, we didn't have a we didn't have a

1244
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 5: cold plunge. They didn't have a hot tub.

1245
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: What year did you come to the Titans? Twenty thirteen?

1246
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 4: So we were a team not to have a teen years.

1247
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: They didn't have none of that. They didn't The facilities were.

1248
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 4: Like locker room, not even.

1249
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 5: A hot and it was they was making the food outside.

1250
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 5: We didn't even have a kitchen or they was bringing

1251
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 5: it in. Yeah, it was it was wild. I was

1252
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 5: eating McDonald's. I was eating McDonald's the first year. I'll

1253
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 5: go to get McDonald's every day at lunch big Max

1254
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 5: double cheeseburgers with Max sauce, no pickles.

1255
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 2: So like it was, it was. It was. It was bad,

1256
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: but they were they were growing and and that's.

1257
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 5: Why our records showed the way it showed, because it

1258
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 5: was just like, you know, mister Adams, he was you know,

1259
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 5: he was older, he was getting old. He was to

1260
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 5: that point where you know, he he really didn't do

1261
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 5: day to day activities with the football team. I didn't

1262
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 5: even I only met him once, you know, when I

1263
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 5: first got I only met him once. And this is

1264
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 5: what he said when we met him at the game

1265
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 5: we lost, I think to the Jaguars.

1266
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: He come in, he goes, if.

1267
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 5: We had a quarterback, we would have won that game

1268
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 5: with the quack with the quarterbacks sitting right there in

1269
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 5: his face. I said, oh ship, I said, this owner crazy.

1270
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 5: He and then they they ran him up out of there,

1271
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 5: you know what I'm And they got him, took him out,

1272
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 5: and then people was like, man, you see now, you

1273
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 5: know what I'm like.

1274
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he was telling the truth. He was telling truth.

1275
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 5: He made me seen now because he's saying stuff he

1276
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 5: should be saying right in the player's face.

1277
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 2: But he was telling the truth though, you know what

1278
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1279
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 5: You know how old people they can't say the truth.

1280
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 5: They just say the truth. It don't matter who it hurts.

1281
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 5: He just said it, and they was like, that's the owner.

1282
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, that's that's what's up. And you know,

1283
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: a few years later he passed away. But coming here,

1284
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: I really didn't have no thought. I just knew that

1285
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: it was a new opportunity for me to be good.

1286
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: And then we had Chris Johnson.

1287
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 5: Like in my mind, I'm like, with Chris Johnson, i

1288
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 5: ain't got a block long, you know what I'm saying.

1289
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 5: So I was kind of thankful to have Chris Johnson

1290
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 5: on our team. And obviously, you know it didn't work

1291
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 5: out the first few years for us, but you know,

1292
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 5: it started to develop.

1293
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 7: I feel like for your personal career, just as like

1294
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 7: a fan watching, like there has to be something say,

1295
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 7: like it was huge for you because you became a

1296
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 7: star in a low market city even though it wasn't

1297
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 7: the forty nine ers, and playing with like all those

1298
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 7: guys like you, you grew such a like name for

1299
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 7: yourself and like to this day, they are lifelong Titans

1300
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 7: fans that like are like if we could just have

1301
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 7: a Delaney Walker still back playing and that's that says something,

1302
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 7: which is I mean it fires me up, like sitting

1303
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 7: here interviewing you when like I'm in the stadium in

1304
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 7: like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, coming home from like college

1305
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 7: on like a random weekend, and I'm like, you know,

1306
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 7: I mean, at least we got like a couple of

1307
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 7: dogs that sh it's cool, and like sitting here, it's like, damn,

1308
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 7: it's crazy.

1309
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 10: So you got here in twenty thirteen, When did Marcus

1310
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 10: get here? Twenty fifth, sixteen, fifteen fifteen, right after Taylor

1311
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 10: got here.

1312
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 4: Yes, started stacking.

1313
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 5: We started stacking because you got to think about it,

1314
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 5: Like Rusting was our GM at first. But Rustling was

1315
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 5: so used to having nobody who went to the RAM

1316
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 5: Why can't why is his name?

1317
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: He's a coach. He went to the Rams, Jeff Fisher,

1318
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 2: Jeff Fisher.

1319
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 5: So they were so used to having, yeah, the Saint

1320
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 5: Louis Rams, So they were so used to having Jeff

1321
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 5: Fisher and his mindset.

1322
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: Because Jeff Jeff Fisher was the.

1323
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 5: He was the mastermind of the Titians being successful. We

1324
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 5: all can say that, like good coach, great coach. I'm

1325
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 5: sure he was the one saying what players were going

1326
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 5: to pick, because he's that kind of coach that's going

1327
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 5: to control the narrative, right, But then you get munch

1328
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 5: Check Rusting and then Wizn't Hunt Rusting. Like the picks

1329
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 5: we were bringing in, you know, they were yeah, they

1330
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 5: were taking you know what I mean, it wasn't It

1331
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 5: didn't look good, you know, for the organization. And then

1332
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 5: like we Rustling get fired, they hired y'all know who,

1333
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 5: y'all know who? The next gym was Robinson. I don't

1334
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 5: know why they slipping my mind right now, So we

1335
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 5: hired Robinson. Robinson comes in with this resume of like

1336
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 5: knowing how to find talent, right, so he has Isn't

1337
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 5: Hunt Mike Malarkey Mike right. If you look at those

1338
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 5: three years, look at the draft picks we had, it

1339
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 5: shows who was really in control of the draft picks

1340
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 5: at that time because we were stinking it up. We

1341
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 5: was bringing cats in and was like, why the hell

1342
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 5: who is this dude? Like where did he come from?

1343
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 5: And then it went to Marcus Mariota, Dereck Henry, Taylor.

1344
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 2: Taylor Lawan.

1345
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 5: I mean the list goes on of cats who was

1346
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 5: putting in work on the team, and then just we

1347
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 5: start getting better, you know what I'm saying. But now

1348
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 5: we're having that log again where we're drafting cats.

1349
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: They ain't doing nothing.

1350
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 4: Jack has the thousand yards stare going as you're as.

1351
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 10: I'm talking about, but you're thinking, you're saying right now,

1352
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 10: after that j Rob period, started doing that again.

1353
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 5: And start doing that. After the j Rob period, it

1354
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 5: started doing that again. Was like, let's get.

1355
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 2: Seat fillers instead of opportunists players. You know what I mean.

1356
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 5: These cats come in and be like, I'm here, I'm good,

1357
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 5: just happy to be I'm just.

1358
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 2: Happy to be here, you know what I mean. I'm

1359
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: happy to be here instead of those dogs. You know

1360
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: what I mean?

1361
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 5: Because if you look at Jeff, Jeff was Robinson. Yeah,

1362
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 5: people kind of forget that. Yes, yeah, people forget that.

1363
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, that was Robinson. Like everything after Jeff.

1364
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, in comparison he did Jeff and a j A.

1365
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 4: Trade is truly the only thing that ruined him.

1366
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 2: I know. That's what That's what got them fired. One

1367
01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: bad decision.

1368
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 10: Going back a little bit like when Marcus got there,

1369
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 10: obviously he was what number two pick behind Jamis.

1370
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 4: That first game against the Bucks.

1371
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 2: He went crazy, went crazy.

1372
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 10: Were you like, oh shit, like this is the dude

1373
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 10: like Marcus.

1374
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: Is for real?

1375
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, what was your relationship like with Marcus? I mean

1376
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 10: obviously you were his only target for a very long.

1377
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 5: Time when Marcus first got there. I love Marcus because

1378
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 5: he was the type of player, like he don't say

1379
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 5: much right, but he take the blame. He'll go out

1380
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 5: there throw for three hundred some yards. We lose, it's

1381
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 5: his fault.

1382
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 2: I could have played better.

1383
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 5: I could have played better. I could have played better,

1384
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 5: but they didn't tell you. They didn't tell you. This

1385
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 5: dude dropped five passes. That dude fumbled the ball, and

1386
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 5: it would be like a trickle effect. But it always

1387
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 5: came back to Marcus because Marcus is going there like

1388
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 5: it's my fault. If I would have threw for four

1389
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 5: hundred yards, maybe we would have won.

1390
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 2: You know.

1391
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 5: It was one pass I should have thought about. I

1392
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 5: shouldn't have thrown it, you know, and then he'd take

1393
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 5: that blame. So I loved him because he never blamed nobody.

1394
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 5: He always was like, I gotta be better, you.

1395
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

1396
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 5: And I looked at it as this is a guy

1397
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 5: who's gonna die for you no matter what he can,

1398
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 5: and he know it's your fault, but he gonna go

1399
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 5: in that room and go.

1400
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 2: That was my fault. It was a bad pass.

1401
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 5: If I would have put it on the money, he

1402
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 5: probably would have called it. He always did that and

1403
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 5: I loved him for that. But he came into an

1404
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:33,439
Speaker 5: organization where they are hard on quarterbacks. They're really really

1405
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 5: hard on quarterbacks because we had great ones played for

1406
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 5: the Titans and the Oilers. So anytime that person, that

1407
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 5: quarterback is not playing at that level that they feel

1408
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 5: he should be playing, it always goes back. That's why

1409
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 5: he's still on the stadium. That's why the players that

1410
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 5: people compare everyone to, they still on the stadium. But

1411
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 5: all the other players not but those two players, right,

1412
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 5: and that you're gonna get compared to them every time.

1413
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 5: See Derek Henry, he held that stigma. So no one

1414
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 5: ever said that, nothing about Derek being as good as George,

1415
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 5: because he was. But now, oh, we don't we need

1416
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 5: an Eddie George, right, you know, we we need a mcnaire.

1417
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 5: But now, I mean, cam Ward is doing this, but

1418
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 5: he has no help at all.

1419
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: So like we we.

1420
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 5: Put our quarterbacks in a blender because they get beat

1421
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 5: the fuck up. Oh y'all have y'all seeing what I'll

1422
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 5: see them and Joe Burrow running run for their life,

1423
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 5: taking injuries. They shouldn't be taking injuries. Look at the

1424
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 5: injuries Joe Burrow has tooken, Look at the injuries Marcus

1425
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 5: has tooken, Ryan Tannehill, Will Levis, Will Levis. But we

1426
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 5: and then they get they all played great, and then

1427
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 5: they start getting beat up, beat up, and.

1428
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, we gotta get rid of them. They suck.

1429
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 5: No, they good, they real good. It's just things around him.

1430
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 5: It is not playing to the same level. But I

1431
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 5: love Marcus Man. Yeah, I love Marcus. He was a dog.

1432
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 5: Ryan Tannehill was a dog. I mean, Jesus Christ. I

1433
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 5: played with some good quarterbacks on the time. They may

1434
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 5: not get that represent the recognition that they deserve, but

1435
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 5: do some.

1436
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 2: Running back.

1437
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 7: Yeah so, and the grand scheme of it all between

1438
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 7: forty nine Ers and Titans. Can you pinpoint a singular

1439
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 7: game that you're like, this was my favorite NFL game ever?

1440
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely can. It was the forty nine Ers

1441
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 5: versus the Lions. We were four and one, the Lions

1442
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 5: with five and oh. They had Mega Tronk and Matt Stafford.

1443
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 5: They had they had some dogs over there. I mean

1444
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 5: dogs vanderbrush on. Oh my, he used to wear the

1445
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 5: red contact lands. That shit used to creep me out

1446
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 5: all the time.

1447
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: Yah, who was there? I wound blocked them like four times.

1448
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 2: It was home in four field.

1449
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 5: Home. It was a in four field. We five and one,

1450
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 5: they five and up. I mean they were four to one,

1451
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 5: they was five and oh. And it came down to

1452
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 5: the far I have ran a slant, they scored a

1453
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 5: winning touchdown. And that game I still talk about that

1454
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 5: because that game I was playing phenomenal. I mean I

1455
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 5: probably had like five special teams tackles. I wham sue

1456
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 5: like five times, and we broke for big runs and

1457
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 5: then it came all down to me to score the touchdown.

1458
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 5: And and they never really threw me the ball For

1459
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 5: them to trust me on that play, Yeah, it changed everything.

1460
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 2: It changed every day we went on the.

1461
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 5: Super Bowl run and I got you know, like I said,

1462
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 5: I was a free agent and got paid and that

1463
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 5: all that that right there opened the door for me

1464
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 5: because they trusted me. They start putting me on more plays,

1465
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 5: more things. But then Jim Harball did what he did

1466
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 5: at the end of the game, and that was like,

1467
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 5: that's my dog, yeah, and.

1468
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 4: He chased him down.

1469
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 2: Then he chased him down.

1470
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 5: We always about to rumble all the way into the

1471
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 5: locker room, the whole team, we all like squaring up.

1472
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 5: Holy's come like that. And and I won that game,

1473
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So it's like I always

1474
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 5: anytime people talk him like, I mean, I done have

1475
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 5: some hell of games with the Titans, but that was

1476
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 5: probably the biggest.

1477
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 2: It took that next step, yeah.

1478
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 5: For me, you know what I mean, And for them

1479
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 5: to trust me because like like I said, we had

1480
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 5: Vernon Davis, Crabtree, Randy Mausss, Mario Manahan, Frank Gore.

1481
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 2: I mean, they ain't one of those dudes they could

1482
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 2: have the ball.

1483
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 13: To you again, your relationship with Jim Harball when he

1484
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 13: became the coach the forty nine ers, you were already there, correct, Yes,

1485
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 13: that first time y'all saw each other after him being

1486
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 13: your coach at that d One Bowl, or is it

1487
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 13: just like, holy shit, look where we are now?

1488
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 5: He was like, I'm he was like when I saw

1489
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 5: you was on the roster. I was like, we know,

1490
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 5: we got a player, that's all. He said, Like, we

1491
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 5: know we got a player. He's like, I'll put this

1492
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 5: mother everywhere, and he did. That's how I became the

1493
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 5: Swiss Army Knife because he sold these. He seems like

1494
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 5: we got a plan for you.

1495
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 2: I said, oh yeah, I'm about to play more.

1496
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 11: What was it like when he like, because y'all obviously

1497
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 11: weren't winning, so you had to make a coaching change,

1498
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 11: like when he came in, Like how instant did like

1499
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 11: the mood in the locker room shift, like just in

1500
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 11: the organization because I mean, y'all won like instantly when

1501
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 11: he got there.

1502
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 5: Well, so when Jim Harbo got there and the way

1503
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 5: he made us work, people was mad because he came

1504
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 5: on right after that lockout year. So we come back

1505
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 5: in and we going to work. Cats was, yeah, we

1506
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 5: gotta get this dude. I don't know about this dude.

1507
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 5: I don't know about this dude. Like Cats, that was

1508
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 5: the the ring around the locker So it got back

1509
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 5: to him somehow.

1510
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1511
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 5: You know, you always got a snitch in the locker room.

1512
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 5: That's just part of the game. That's anywhere you go.

1513
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,719
Speaker 5: It gets back to him. He goes, we bring up practice.

1514
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 5: I mean, we just busted our ass at practice to

1515
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 5: this was a long, crazy practice. And he goes, we

1516
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 5: have snakes on this team. Were like, what the hell

1517
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 5: he just bringing up? Like we got snakes on this team.

1518
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,440
Speaker 5: He's like, you know how you get rid of snakes?

1519
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 5: Cut the grass, Burn the grass. Damn, he said, burn

1520
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 5: the grass.

1521
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 2: They said. He said about in a few weeks. That

1522
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 2: person that made that's next to you right now, he

1523
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 2: may not be next to you next week.

1524
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 4: And you'll know who.

1525
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 5: And we're like, oh shit. Every week, cut cut, bring

1526
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 5: somebody in. Cut, bring somebody in, cut, bring somebody. He like,

1527
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 5: you see all the people that got cut, they wasn't

1528
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 5: right for this team. But everybody who came here that

1529
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 5: we brought in, they gonna put work on for this team.

1530
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 5: They may be starting. I don't give how much money

1531
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 5: you make, who you are, where you get drafted at

1532
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 5: the best player gonna play. I'm sitting there like, God, damn,

1533
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 5: thank god, God.

1534
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: It's my turn.

1535
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 4: There's nothing better than a good leader.

1536
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like thank God, because I'm busting my ass

1537
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 5: and I'm not saying the field he comes in, It's

1538
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 5: like I don't care who it is, and I remember

1539
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 5: he was like you, but he made me work a lot.

1540
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 5: I had to learn everything the quarterbacks learned because I

1541
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 5: was the audible shift guy, move guy. And I loved

1542
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 5: it though, because he gave me a lot of responsibility.

1543
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 5: But a lot of dudes will tell you they hate

1544
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 5: Jim Harball because he make us work, you know what

1545
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Like one time, remember back in the day,

1546
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 5: NFL was big on when we had real tour days.

1547
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 5: They were big on like taking players on like field trips,

1548
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 5: like you go to a water park, movies, theater or

1549
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 5: something like that. So one day we're thinking we're about

1550
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 5: to get a bone because he's like, man, y'all have

1551
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 5: a good practice. I'm gonna give y'all bone. I'm gonna

1552
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 5: get y'all good bone. Y'all gonna love this bone. Were like, ugh,

1553
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 5: a lot of bony going to bony going on, so like, well,

1554
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 5: like okay, and then uh, hell of a practice he

1555
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 5: calls us up, man, that was one of the great practice. All,

1556
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 5: y'all gonna love this bone tomorrow. So we like all excited,

1557
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 5: like where we going? Everybody like where are we going, man,

1558
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 5: I think he gonna take us. He probably gonna take

1559
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 5: us to some war reenacting and shit, you know what

1560
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 5: I'm saying because that's where it came from. Yeah, I

1561
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 5: know that's what he big on too. So we get

1562
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 5: there and uh we we had the dress of the day.

1563
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 5: He used to put it on the board, like the

1564
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 5: dress of the day. We're like, oh, shit, full pads.

1565
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 5: We're the bone at. We like we thought it was

1566
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 5: gonna be like, no practice. It's say full pads. So

1567
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 5: everybody talking.

1568
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: Like full fucking pads. Where the bone at.

1569
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 5: They're like, oh, we're probably gonna practice like thirty forty minutes.

1570
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh yeah, that's cool. That's even cool. We

1571
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 5: get outside, he's like, hey, bring it up because usually

1572
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 5: we stretch. So Jim Harball, let you stretch on your

1573
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 5: own for fifteen minutes. And then he blowed the whistle

1574
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 5: and we start practice. So he we ain't straight. He

1575
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 5: just blow us up.

1576
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 2: We're like, oh, yeah, he tricked us cause he liked that, Like.

1577
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, y'all go change No he go, uh he go,

1578
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 5: you wanted I want to tell y'all something? We go, yeah,

1579
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 5: he go seattle right now at the water park. They

1580
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 5: go Arizona right now.

1581
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,879
Speaker 2: They did. They had like a softball baseball game.

1582
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 4: And he still be there.

1583
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, he going through all the all our teams in

1584
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 5: our comf in our division.

1585
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 2: We go, but you know what the forty nine ers

1586
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:24,560
Speaker 2: are gonna do. We're like, what coach? We all excited

1587
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: when we coach coach, Yeah, what we're gonna go for? Yeah,

1588
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 2: he like, we're gonna get these seventy plays. Let's go.

1589
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:39,799
Speaker 8: Morale just killed. I don't work anymore.

1590
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 5: Coach like that crazy. That may have been the worst

1591
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 5: practice we ever, the worst.

1592
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1593
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, did he ever take anywhere ever?

1594
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 5: Yeah he did. He took us. He took us somewhere.

1595
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 5: So after that, I think I want to say two practices.

1596
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 5: After that, he took us to the movies. We watched.

1597
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: What was it? It was an army movie.

1598
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 4: At that time, maybe like Saving Private Ryan. It could be.

1599
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, fury, No, was it thirty nights,

1600
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 2: thirty days? What was it?

1601
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 14: Thirty zero dark thirty? Yeah, we see zero dark thirty.

1602
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 14: Because he was really big into the military. We even

1603
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 14: had the president general like military dude come and speak

1604
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 14: to us.

1605
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 2: Yo, like he was big on that, so like.

1606
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 5: We went and watched the Army movie and then that

1607
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 5: that message was like, you see how they never gave

1608
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 5: up when they backs was against the wall, they kept

1609
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,480
Speaker 5: fighting because.

1610
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 12: We got seventy more plays. After the movie, pet your

1611
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 12: pads on, He's like, you see how they never gave up.

1612
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 12: He's like, We're gonna beat those guys because I know

1613
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 12: we're gonna be down in the first quarter, We're gonna

1614
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 12: be down in the second quarter, but who the hell

1615
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 12: we're gonna be in the third quarter, and how will

1616
01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 12: we finish the fourth quarter? I'm like, god da, I'm

1617
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 12: talking about like yeah, and if you watch all our games,

1618
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 12: we we losing in the first half, and then the

1619
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 12: second half we come back.

1620
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 5: We was the comeback kids. Everybody knew that we come

1621
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 5: back and just beat their ass. We just out physical youth.

1622
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 5: And he knew that. I guess he felt it. So

1623
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 5: he wanted us to see, like when they was down

1624
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 5: and they look and they thought you all thought they

1625
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 5: was gonna die because it was just too many afees

1626
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 5: coming after room every angle, you know what I'm saying.

1627
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 5: But they locked and loaded. They got they they they

1628
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 5: they they got their game plan and they just look,

1629
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 5: we're gonna die doing it. We either gonna die killing them.

1630
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 5: Are we gonna walk away from this? You know what

1631
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 5: I'm saying.

1632
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we died.

1633
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 5: We died, and that's really what they did. They went

1634
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 5: out there. It's like, look, let's get it. So we

1635
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 5: all had that mard set and we was all on

1636
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 5: the pill program you know, talk about that later. Uh,

1637
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 5: so we were dogs.

1638
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: I think we're getting Yeah, our batteries Runner loaded our audience,

1639
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: so we got it.

1640
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 7: How long have been going?

1641
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 4: Our ten? Question our sixteen?

1642
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 8: It feels like you've been going for a minute.

1643
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, bro, this has been We really appreciate you coming

1644
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 7: on one. And even though we've heard a lot of

1645
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 7: these stories over and over, I feel like I heard

1646
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 7: a new piece and every one of those stories where

1647
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 7: I was like, damn, there's so much more to every

1648
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 7: like story that for just for anyone's sake, but man,

1649
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 7: it means a lot.

1650
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 8: Like you are a guy.

1651
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 7: You've all showed so much love to us. So it's

1652
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 7: sick that you are the number twentieth episode guest. And uh, I'm.

1653
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 2: Sure, I'm sure we'll have you back on.

1654
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 3: We've only ever had for pro athlete guests We've only

1655
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 3: ever had Titan Era tight ends.

1656
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 4: Tight ends from the Niners.

1657
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: True, true, No, you had Grounk, didn't you. Yeah, Georgia,

1658
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: we had George and you. I thought that had I

1659
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 2: saw George. I thought you had Gronk for sure, though happened.

1660
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 2: We'll get Vern too. Oh yeah, yeah, no, Vern, definitely Vern.

1661
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 5: Verne would love to come on here because he wanted

1662
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 5: to get inside of the story.

1663
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 2: Like, I gotta get my side of the story. I'm like,

1664
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 2: all right, for.

1665
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 4: Good deal.

1666
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 7: Damn, you're trying to sign us off, Coop, I gotta.

1667
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 3: Do this off.

1668
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 2: I brought us in.

1669
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 11: Jeffy signed us off.

1670
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 4: I did that last week, Garrett, sign us off.

1671
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 10: Thank you all for listening to another episode of Inside

1672
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 10: the Bus, episode twenty with our guy Delaney Walker. Go

1673
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 10: show some love, hit the comments, tell us who you

1674
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 10: want us to have next. You know, we appreciate you

1675
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 10: guys tuning in. Help us blow this thing up until

1676
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 10: next time, he pace