Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black
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Speaker 1: back Man, season two of All the Smoke. We got
Speaker 1: a real special guys. What's up with your Brodie? With
Speaker 1: the virtual handshake, I'm gonna tell you something that I
Speaker 1: never told go back, I want to smoke. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to another edition to All the Smoke. Jack, what's up
Speaker 1: with you? Broke my boy? What's going on? Holiday season? Yes?
Speaker 1: It here, man, I can't call it just chilling. Just
Speaker 1: got back from Arizona with the Twins for a little
Speaker 1: au tournament. Now it's my off week, kick my feet
Speaker 1: up and catch up on life. Man. Everything good out there,
Speaker 1: Everything good, man. We get ready to go home for holidays.
Speaker 1: But how did the boys doing the tournament? They won
Speaker 1: the championship, man, So we went out to Arizona, did
Speaker 1: our things. So we gotta head out to Jail's having
Speaker 1: a tournament in Dallas, UM next month. That will be
Speaker 1: like the top five teams in the country. So we
Speaker 1: got a chance to work around and get number one.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to it. I might gotta pull
Speaker 1: up anyway, man. The newest Golden State Warriors were both
Speaker 1: a fan of this young player, very talented, exciting, light
Speaker 1: skinned killer. Welcome Kelly, you right to the show man.
Speaker 1: Thank you for your time, Thanks for having Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's something Jack and I know you
Speaker 1: know a lot about That's where you know, our brother
Speaker 1: Our brotherhood began in two thousand and seven, and then
Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough to go back in seventeen and
Speaker 1: win the ring before I left. But man, tremendous organization,
Speaker 1: top notch. We saw you messing around with our guy
Speaker 1: Raymond ridd before. What has it been like, I mean,
Speaker 1: what was the experience from Damn? I got traded from
Speaker 1: Phoenix to Okay see and the next thing you know,
Speaker 1: now I'm in Golden State. What was that? You know,
Speaker 1: seventy two hours? Like, man, it's been a whirlwind. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you know the business of basketball, it could be you know,
Speaker 1: very just anxiety. Feel you don't know what's going on,
Speaker 1: you know, with your future. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, man, everything happens for a reason, and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe sitting here with Fourrior's shirt on is is for
Speaker 1: a reason. So you know, I'm trying to make the
Speaker 1: best out of this situation. Have you got a chance
Speaker 1: to talk to any of your new teammate chet, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually been in for the past two days, just
Speaker 1: checking in. Steph reached out via text before I actually
Speaker 1: met him in person. Draymond reached out yesterday. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: and everybody who is in town, I've been able to
Speaker 1: just check in with. So just trying to samously transition
Speaker 1: over here, you know, to to just flow with these
Speaker 1: guys in this locker room. Hey, one thing I love
Speaker 1: about the organization. You know, I played for a lot
Speaker 1: of teams. I want championships with other teams, but they're
Speaker 1: gonna they make you feel like family dolls. They make
Speaker 1: you feel appreciate it and make you feel wanted. And
Speaker 1: one thing about it, we men mad know what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do on the court. So you're gonna be just fine, bro,
Speaker 1: because they're gonna make sure they take care of everything else.
Speaker 1: I look at you too. Man's people who lay at
Speaker 1: the groundwork for just that. The nineties eighties basketball era.
Speaker 1: You know, even when you guys weren't necessarily in their
Speaker 1: eras to injur careers. Man, So that whole energy of
Speaker 1: just being a hard nosed and going out there and
Speaker 1: not really taking any ship, but also just being professional
Speaker 1: about it all has just been kind of something that
Speaker 1: I've been blessed to know that guys have already done that,
Speaker 1: and obviously like the pair of lot of fire and
Speaker 1: a lot of passion. So I'm in the hope gonna
Speaker 1: take care of yourself. It's just about the energy and
Speaker 1: the relationships. Yeah, I appreciate you. You have a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. Well where were you at when you heard
Speaker 1: the Clay Thompson news, because you know, kind of whether
Speaker 1: it was directly connected or not, that's somehow to me.
Speaker 1: I think how you ended up going to Golden States,
Speaker 1: So where were you at when you heard that? You know,
Speaker 1: after tearing his a c L rehab and be ready
Speaker 1: to go he tears his achilles. I was at the house, man.
Speaker 1: It was just that same window. Nobody had reached out
Speaker 1: to me from Okay See just yet, so I just
Speaker 1: kind of figured something was in the in the wind
Speaker 1: going down. The next day, Uh, Sam Prescy actually called
Speaker 1: me and said that I'm gonna be moving to Okay
Speaker 1: see um and that he just wanted what was best
Speaker 1: for me in my career. So I mean, I respect
Speaker 1: him for calling me and telling me that he was
Speaker 1: looking to move me just because you know, they had
Speaker 1: other plans for their team. And then obviously I get
Speaker 1: the news from my honey cam he said that Clay
Speaker 1: went down. So I kind of got adjust that. Some
Speaker 1: of the Warriors organizations call pretty soon after that. But
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't trying to put too much, too
Speaker 1: much faith and too much hoping that because I can't
Speaker 1: control anything. But I mean, all in all, they did call.
Speaker 1: So yeah, as as players, even even as players, is
Speaker 1: not even in the game no more. When we hear
Speaker 1: news like that about Clay, it's devastating, bro, because the
Speaker 1: NBA it's really not the same without a guy like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know, what, what
Speaker 1: what what that happened? And I know everybody around the world,
Speaker 1: especially basketball players, you know, he was like, damn man,
Speaker 1: not again. Yeah, man, I can't wait till he get
Speaker 1: back straight up. See y'all y'all together up my guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be scared, I mean, especially you know, especially
Speaker 1: with it was bad luck. You know, I mean for
Speaker 1: him to go down in the finals and then take
Speaker 1: the full amount of time to recover, which people don't
Speaker 1: do too often. You know everything you're hearing. You know,
Speaker 1: we had Steve Kerr on the show earlier in the
Speaker 1: year talking about, you know, Clay's back in the mix,
Speaker 1: he's looking good. And then, you know, less than a
Speaker 1: month before training camp, you know, something like this happen.
Speaker 1: So we're definitely sending shout outs to our guy, Clay
Speaker 1: get better. I got a chance to talk to him,
Speaker 1: you know, the other day fleet on I g So,
Speaker 1: you know, praying for the best, but you know, the
Speaker 1: team has to move forward. So you know, they loaded
Speaker 1: up at that position, brought you in, so you're gonna
Speaker 1: have some fun out there. Yes, sir, let's let's take
Speaker 1: it back to your early years. Grew up in New Orleans, Louisiana.
Speaker 1: What was that like? New Orleans? Was it was? It was?
Speaker 1: It was tough, man, I think boom, Yeah. You know,
Speaker 1: right before two thousand and five, we had really just
Speaker 1: moved out the you know, out the out of uptown.
Speaker 1: We moved pretty pretty much from the whole Project Field
Speaker 1: area to the east and like, if you know about it,
Speaker 1: the east is where like East Over is, That's where
Speaker 1: Burman lived, That's where you know, currency lives. So I
Speaker 1: didn't live in that neighborhood, of course, but I lived,
Speaker 1: you know, down the street. But we had a pretty substantial,
Speaker 1: like you know, middle class life, but head it was
Speaker 1: very new. And then it all got wiped away um
Speaker 1: as soon as two thousand five hits, so you know,
Speaker 1: I had to go through the struggle once again. But
Speaker 1: it was just all in all, man, a humbling experience
Speaker 1: from me because I knew where I came from ever,
Speaker 1: and you know, I credit New Orleans. I always called
Speaker 1: New Orleans the place that you know that pretty much
Speaker 1: raised me because without that adversity, that wouldn't be I'm
Speaker 1: from Port Author, that's like five hours away from you, bro,
Speaker 1: and everything we go through the same, We go through
Speaker 1: the same things. We were devastated too. But a lot
Speaker 1: of people from New Orleans came from New Orleans support
Speaker 1: artor to Texas. You know what I'm saying, when when
Speaker 1: all this was going on and a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't understand how people lives was just shifted, Bro, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I'm to my overnight, I'm
Speaker 1: to my Matt. I had people coming to me. He
Speaker 1: was talking about Burtman. I'm talking about the Gutta Gutta
Speaker 1: and little Mario on them they pulled up to me,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about their hands would look like they were
Speaker 1: playing in swamp water for weeks. Bro. They had calluses
Speaker 1: all that just for just us to survive, to get
Speaker 1: out of that, to get to Texas. Bro. So like
Speaker 1: just just just just what people should really understand what
Speaker 1: everybody New Orleans went through around the time, and to
Speaker 1: be able to come through that and survived, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You gotta salute them, man. So look
Speaker 1: the Texas though, man for just opening their arms. Although
Speaker 1: it was it was a lot of stripe going and
Speaker 1: back and forth, two cultures interminglingd but Texas really held
Speaker 1: it down. Man. You got to appreciate the people who
Speaker 1: could help another city out and then really house them
Speaker 1: and just allowed them to be a part of the airs. Man.
Speaker 1: So salute it. It's a big enough as state. Uh
Speaker 1: as a nine as a as a nine and ten
Speaker 1: year old, talk to us what it was like about,
Speaker 1: you know, Hurricane Katrina, and what your thoughts were at
Speaker 1: that age. You know, I have kids are a little
Speaker 1: bit older than that, but I couldn't imagine having to
Speaker 1: just completely uproot on our all of our ship is gone,
Speaker 1: and we gotta go to a whole another state. As
Speaker 1: a nine and ten year old, what what what was
Speaker 1: going through your mind at the time, It was a lot. Man.
Speaker 1: I didn't really know what was going on because nobody
Speaker 1: really told me nothing. All I knew was the day
Speaker 1: before the eye of the storm hit and my dad
Speaker 1: told me to pack up my stuff and we're about
Speaker 1: to get out of here. And then I was just
Speaker 1: thinking we shouldn't go on the road trip, come right
Speaker 1: back home. But all in all, we went to Houston,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's a lot of uncertainty for me,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't do nothing financially. I couldn't do nothing
Speaker 1: emotionally to like really help my dad out. So that
Speaker 1: was that's what stuck. That's that's my motivation to this day.
Speaker 1: Like I remember feeling like lost and stuff that I
Speaker 1: couldn't do nothing to help my family. And that's when
Speaker 1: that's really when I turned up and was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I gotta be somebody in life to help my family
Speaker 1: so we don't go through this again. So I mean
Speaker 1: that that that those years man really stuck with me forever.
Speaker 1: So he transitioned to Houston, Texas two thousand thirteen. You
Speaker 1: commit to Kansas. What was it about Kansas over the
Speaker 1: other schools that that that drew your attention. I mean,
Speaker 1: Bill self was somebody that was there. You know, he
Speaker 1: had a great system and play. I didn't look. I
Speaker 1: didn't go on no other visits. Um. You know, I
Speaker 1: went on one visit late nine in the fog, and
Speaker 1: it felt right. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you know, it was a plan to for me to
Speaker 1: utilize a big program to get to where I wanted
Speaker 1: to get to. You know co self, you know, he
Speaker 1: seemed to be bought in at first until I got
Speaker 1: there and then played the first nine games in my
Speaker 1: college career, so it kind of threw me for a look.
Speaker 1: But like I said, everything is a learned experience, man,
Speaker 1: and I learned that everything ain't gonna be in it too.
Speaker 1: You you know, you gotta really go out there and work.
Speaker 1: So that's real ship. So when you get there, you
Speaker 1: don't play the first nine games of your freshman season,
Speaker 1: going into that situation where you thinking one and done
Speaker 1: two years, what was your mindset because you said there
Speaker 1: was just gonna be a springboard to get off to
Speaker 1: me to where you're at. Now, what was your vision
Speaker 1: going into college? I mean I could kind of said
Speaker 1: I was feeling myself a little bit um, you know,
Speaker 1: I was projecting five and then coach Sell said, no,
Speaker 1: you ain't nothing, you ain't ship. So I kind of
Speaker 1: it really humbled me, man, and I can only I
Speaker 1: have the ultimate respect for him for not giving me
Speaker 1: anything easier or handed to me. So but at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you gotta he gotta play his
Speaker 1: cars too, and you know all I see the business
Speaker 1: of it. But yeah, that was one of those things
Speaker 1: that really knocked me back because when I got to
Speaker 1: Washington my first year, I didn't play at all. So
Speaker 1: you know, it was something that got me ready for
Speaker 1: the league for real. A lot of time, A lot
Speaker 1: of times when coaches see something made that you don't see,
Speaker 1: or see stuff that you need to work on, or
Speaker 1: the player you need to be to get to where
Speaker 1: you want to go. I know, me, I didn't go
Speaker 1: to college. So my kind of transition like that was
Speaker 1: with Popovich. I was a rookie All star almost. I
Speaker 1: was like top two or three is scoring with at
Speaker 1: all rookies. Didn't I go to San Antonio my second
Speaker 1: year and don't play at all to my sitting on
Speaker 1: the Angels the whole year, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it was a learning experience because the next year
Speaker 1: when I came back, all the stuff he was teaching
Speaker 1: me about playing defense to keep you on the court
Speaker 1: and all that. I went hard on that times ten
Speaker 1: and I had a long career. So I'm glad that
Speaker 1: you got the mindset and you look at it, at
Speaker 1: everything as a learning experience because that that shows how
Speaker 1: far that that you're gonna go, real far, you know
Speaker 1: in this game. Appreciate that, man. Yeah, well that's what
Speaker 1: That's what people don't understand. I mean, you know, us
Speaker 1: being able to play, you know, fourteen fifteen years in
Speaker 1: the league, it's never really about that. I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: talented was to get you there, but it's it's your
Speaker 1: mental approach and being able to hand to understand situation.
Speaker 1: You know, my first three or four years, I didn't
Speaker 1: play at all, you know what I mean. Excuse me.
Speaker 1: My first year I played, and then once I traded
Speaker 1: the Philly, I said on that bench and it was dark,
Speaker 1: you know, because sometimes doubting yourself, questioning, yourself, working extra
Speaker 1: still not getting a chance to play, just like you
Speaker 1: know what then do I gotta do to play? Um?
Speaker 1: But that's where really, that's that's where some people go
Speaker 1: left and some people never come from that, man, So
Speaker 1: salute to you for you know, holding it down in
Speaker 1: and fighting through the storm. So you get drafted theft
Speaker 1: pick overall to a to a young up and coming
Speaker 1: team at the time with John Wallen Bradley Beale. What
Speaker 1: was it like playing alongside of those two elite guards
Speaker 1: coming into the league For you, it was amazing, man,
Speaker 1: you know five and and be They really just like
Speaker 1: our two dudes who like gonna get it, like they
Speaker 1: just gonna get it no matter what, no matter if
Speaker 1: the odds are stacked against them, no matter what people
Speaker 1: are saying about them. I watched those dudes, man, just
Speaker 1: shut up all the naysayers man like for real, and
Speaker 1: it gave me the motivation and really want to do
Speaker 1: the same to just throughout my whole career consistently like
Speaker 1: no matter what, they just continuously with themselves and they
Speaker 1: just shut up everybody that's ever doubted them. So I
Speaker 1: think that energy from those two men will always stick
Speaker 1: with me too. Because I learned from the two of
Speaker 1: the two of the most solid individuals in the It
Speaker 1: was the blessing. It was a blessing in disguise, man,
Speaker 1: because I really just soaked up all the knowledge I
Speaker 1: can get from them. You know, That's how you gotta
Speaker 1: take it. That's dope. So what was your you said
Speaker 1: your first year you sat, you started getting the rotation?
Speaker 1: Your second year, what do you what do you feel
Speaker 1: like You're welcome to the NBA moment? Was was it,
Speaker 1: you know, something you did to somebody, somebody busted your ass,
Speaker 1: Like when did you realize, like, oh, shoot, I'm here
Speaker 1: now I'm in the mix. Gerald Henderson Philadelphia seventy sixers, Man,
Speaker 1: I gotta still. I gotta still, man. And I baptized
Speaker 1: him and I looked at they bench and smiled and
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, Like I felt good. So like
Speaker 1: every time, you know, I would do something like that,
Speaker 1: I would just smile and just like all right, let's
Speaker 1: get it. But it was that because he was a
Speaker 1: big bully man, you know what I'm saying. He had
Speaker 1: he and like he was trying to intemigrate people. But
Speaker 1: like all salute to him. Man, he really did play
Speaker 1: hard and then you know, it was somebody that I
Speaker 1: kind of respected throughout my time growing up too, so
Speaker 1: to be able to bless him was amazing. Feeling you
Speaker 1: caught something. You are some big guys to Hey, he
Speaker 1: did dunked on some big fellas. He just catching guards
Speaker 1: like he one stepping big fellas too. May Yeah, everybody
Speaker 1: so nasty. That's he's a setting foot hunter. So you
Speaker 1: got early uh, you know, playoff experience with Washington Wizards.
Speaker 1: Um what was that experience? Like you know, your one
Speaker 1: year in college, you're throwing in the fire. You first
Speaker 1: year you don't play, you start getting in the mix
Speaker 1: and then you're automate. You're in the playoffs, the highest
Speaker 1: level of NBA basketball. What did you learn, uh and
Speaker 1: take with you from those early years in the playoffs?
Speaker 1: Um Man, I learned that the playoffs is where you
Speaker 1: need to get to. Is the eighties two games season
Speaker 1: is amazing? You know, yeah, but if you're not in
Speaker 1: the off season, what did you do during that whole
Speaker 1: eighty two game season and you know, getting to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I just felt the energy. You know that you gotta
Speaker 1: know that the energy and that playoffs is different, like
Speaker 1: you see T shirts on the on the chairs and
Speaker 1: the arena. You know, the fans are first sure gonna
Speaker 1: pack the house and like you have to come to
Speaker 1: play every game. So you know, it was something that
Speaker 1: I really just always feeling for that and I want
Speaker 1: to get back to the playoffs, you know, as bad
Speaker 1: as bad as ever now because I need to. I
Speaker 1: need to feel that energy again because that's where their
Speaker 1: leader to compete. Absolutely. So almost two years to the
Speaker 1: point where you were traded from Washington to Phoenix. Washington
Speaker 1: team in the playoffs, going to Phoenix, where a team
Speaker 1: that's trying to find an identity. Beautiful city. I love
Speaker 1: it out there, A young star in Devin Booker who
Speaker 1: you came in the league with it and it'd been
Speaker 1: playing against. What was it like to understand that, like
Speaker 1: that was really your first taste of the business, Like, damn,
Speaker 1: they drafted me, now I'm off to Phoenix. What was
Speaker 1: that experience like for you? Man? Every everything, you know,
Speaker 1: every trade that I've been a part of, Man, it's
Speaker 1: really just been like like, like what's the moment for real?
Speaker 1: Because you know, in Washington, I got traded after the
Speaker 1: Brooklyn game and all my teammates crowded around me and
Speaker 1: was just you know, consoling, like they come into you know,
Speaker 1: pretty much my need because they knew that I was
Speaker 1: a young kid who really didn't understand the business of it.
Speaker 1: So you know, I appreciate Mark Keith, John Brad everybody
Speaker 1: who really just helped me out through that first trade. Uh.
Speaker 1: And you know, I get the Phoenix, and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: motivated to really just show that I don't ever want
Speaker 1: to be traded again, like for real. And I get
Speaker 1: the Phoenix, and you know, it's all love from the city,
Speaker 1: from the organization, from the franchise, and you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know I got traded two weeks ago, and it
Speaker 1: was another moment whereus I had just had a killer
Speaker 1: workout too, Like I was just feeling really good showing
Speaker 1: him and I'm about to go off this season. And
Speaker 1: then you know, after my workout, I come out and
Speaker 1: everybody like, yo, check Twitter. I'm like, I don't look
Speaker 1: at I ain't even look at no Twitter, man, y'all
Speaker 1: just tell me where I'm going, like That's what I
Speaker 1: told Frank Kaminsky. And then you know it was just
Speaker 1: like damn, like I keep getting moved. But at the
Speaker 1: end of day, it's the business. So you know, I'm
Speaker 1: here in this situation right now, man, really just trying
Speaker 1: to fight for a home, you know, a longevity to
Speaker 1: stay somewhere. So it's a business. Definitely find it the
Speaker 1: way you're playing. I mean, I think you came into
Speaker 1: your own I see you show flashes with the Wizards.
Speaker 1: I think in Phoenix you really found some footing alongside
Speaker 1: with Devin Booker. How fun was your brief experience playing
Speaker 1: alongside him, because you guys really made some noise for
Speaker 1: that team. Yeah, it was. It was a lot of fun. Man,
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun to be able to
Speaker 1: It felt like high school again for us, you know,
Speaker 1: class team. We've been competing in the y b L
Speaker 1: against each other for you know, for the longest, so
Speaker 1: it was just it felt like, you know, we were
Speaker 1: able to do something that you know, we always wanted
Speaker 1: to do. Unfortunately, like, yeah, it's a different scenario now.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, we we both
Speaker 1: are hoopers. So you know, for me to be with him,
Speaker 1: you know for those two years and learned that, you know,
Speaker 1: he was a franchise guy there. He put into work
Speaker 1: and he put up the numbers and everything to be
Speaker 1: who he is. It just showed me that I'm not
Speaker 1: too far. You know what I'm saying. I gotta keep
Speaker 1: working because at the end of the day, I see
Speaker 1: my peer who was really doing you know what, I
Speaker 1: something that I would love to do, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just keep working, just keep my head down. But at
Speaker 1: the end of it, I was there too, you know,
Speaker 1: be a supporting role in in that cast, and at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like, that's the way I
Speaker 1: got to continue to just work. You touched on him
Speaker 1: being a franchise player. What did you see day in
Speaker 1: day out? What did you learn from him? Um, because
Speaker 1: he's one of the young bright superstars in the game.
Speaker 1: You're on your way to getting to that to that level,
Speaker 1: But what did you learn from him working with him
Speaker 1: on and off the court for two years? Man, It's
Speaker 1: just you know, it's about the approach to the game.
Speaker 1: You know, it's about the approach to the game. He's
Speaker 1: gonna go get his like, he's gonna go make sure
Speaker 1: that he shows each and every person who would ever
Speaker 1: have anything to say about him that this is what
Speaker 1: I do. I get buckets, you know, and I do
Speaker 1: I do it very smoothly because I'm good at it.
Speaker 1: So you know, for me, it's about going out there
Speaker 1: and getting stops on the defensive end and getting buckets
Speaker 1: because I'm a two way player, so you know, I
Speaker 1: can i can bring that to the table. And you know,
Speaker 1: I really salute to him, you know, for being you know,
Speaker 1: just a professional and just coming out the mud from
Speaker 1: the Phoenix team and trying to you know, make some
Speaker 1: shape for the city. Yeah. I saw when they said
Speaker 1: they were trading CP. I was like, damn, I know
Speaker 1: Kelly has to go in that trade. But if you
Speaker 1: would have got a chance to play with CP book
Speaker 1: and and and the big fell out there, man, that
Speaker 1: could have been you ain't going to State now, you know,
Speaker 1: you're going to a team that had went to the finals.
Speaker 1: Uh you know five, you know, one, three out of
Speaker 1: four championships. You know, arguably one of the greatest teams
Speaker 1: of all times that the win record. When it sinks,
Speaker 1: then like although it's not the same team, Uh, they've
Speaker 1: they've battled through injuries. Now that you're a Golden State Warrior,
Speaker 1: what does that mean to you? Um, it just means
Speaker 1: that now that I'm a Golden State Warrior. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: we have to eliminate all doubts of any people that
Speaker 1: said that the Golden State Warriors didn't get the championships
Speaker 1: out of the mud like that. You know, all the
Speaker 1: bandwagon talk and all that stuff. Okay, well, I am
Speaker 1: not of the superstar status of a k D, but
Speaker 1: I can be just as effective with this group of
Speaker 1: people because we can float together and work together to
Speaker 1: achieve one goal. So that's that's really my my mind
Speaker 1: set here. I want to eliminate all doubts about how
Speaker 1: how great this organization is and how they have already
Speaker 1: laid the foundation to be great in the future. So
Speaker 1: that's it. I want to bounce back a little bit.
Speaker 1: Uh last season, bubble, Um, you get hurt going into
Speaker 1: the bubble you were sidelines. What happened because I didn't
Speaker 1: really get the chance to hear. I know you did
Speaker 1: something to yourknee, But what happened and how did it happen? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I told my meniscus um, I right, my right meniscus um,
Speaker 1: and I had to get surgery right before the COVID
Speaker 1: and the quarantine and stuff happened. So I get surgery
Speaker 1: um around in March, and then everything shuts down and
Speaker 1: I'm continuously rehabbing with the team at the facility, but
Speaker 1: I can't come in anymore due to the COVID. Uh,
Speaker 1: So I had to rehab from home and like just
Speaker 1: get get right on my own, which was cool, like
Speaker 1: I'm always able to adapt to just different circumstances, but
Speaker 1: the mental clarity for me to go out there and
Speaker 1: compete at a high level, and especially after season and
Speaker 1: I just came off of I really didn't feel right
Speaker 1: going into the bubble and another uncertain trial run to
Speaker 1: just go all out and try to help this team.
Speaker 1: But at the end of it, I was there to
Speaker 1: support there, to give all my energy to them and
Speaker 1: you know, help them in any type of way to win,
Speaker 1: and they went aid no, still didn't make it. So
Speaker 1: I feel as if even if I would have played,
Speaker 1: it would have kind of just put me in a
Speaker 1: position tour. It's like all Kelly you Braids is having
Speaker 1: been working Kelly you Braids and where he was before
Speaker 1: you know, everything stopped. So it was a lot of
Speaker 1: cons over over the face of that time that I
Speaker 1: just didn't I wasn't comfortable with dealing with at the time.
Speaker 1: But I'm back now. So no, you definitely made the
Speaker 1: right decision. Like I said, I credited Clay earlier that
Speaker 1: Clay took his full time. That's the one thing you
Speaker 1: can't listen to the whispers in the bullshit, especially when
Speaker 1: it comes to coming back from an injury. Obviously, the
Speaker 1: goal of the team is to get you on the
Speaker 1: court as fast as possible, but you have to understand
Speaker 1: your your own business and beyond this team. You got
Speaker 1: a full fifteen, hopefully twenty year career play, so it's
Speaker 1: always important, even something with the meniscus. Meniscus was the
Speaker 1: only knock on wood surgery I had while I played,
Speaker 1: but I took the full time, you know, coming back.
Speaker 1: And still even when I took the full time coming back,
Speaker 1: I didn't feel right because I came back right before
Speaker 1: the fucking playoffs when I was with the Lakers. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, yo, I've been out for eight weeks now
Speaker 1: and I don't even you know what it means. So
Speaker 1: luckily nothing that came of that. But I definitely think
Speaker 1: you made the right decision. Man, you gotta make sure
Speaker 1: you take carself first, because that's that's the only way
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep making this money. And keep me able
Speaker 1: to do the job you love, Thank you man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, I wanted to hope believe that, but I just, yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew for a fact, like I would rather just sacrifice,
Speaker 1: you know, me wanting to hope so bad than me
Speaker 1: being out here rehabbing and get right. So thoughts on
Speaker 1: the upcoming. Obviously you haven't got a chance to play
Speaker 1: for a while, so you're probably one of the ones
Speaker 1: that are excited about let's get this ship started. December
Speaker 1: can't come fast enough. Yeah, I was on the call actually, uh,
Speaker 1: you know when we everybody voted and we made made
Speaker 1: the change, and I'm like, yo, let's get it, Like,
Speaker 1: but how are we gonna how are we gonna protect
Speaker 1: each other, you know, in this mist of this uncertain
Speaker 1: COVID time and that that's that's the only question that
Speaker 1: I had, you know, because there's some real stuff going
Speaker 1: on in the world. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: the energy of basketball is going to bring people more
Speaker 1: happiness than you know, anything else going on. So I'm
Speaker 1: just ready to get out there and just start just
Speaker 1: hoping for the fans. And you know, COVID is taking
Speaker 1: the fans away a little bit too. So I just
Speaker 1: can't wait till we can get packed houses in arena
Speaker 1: so we could really perform. Have they explained to you,
Speaker 1: guys what it's gonna be like, because you know, obviously
Speaker 1: you're in California now and we're hot. We're about to
Speaker 1: shut down, they say, in the next couple of days.
Speaker 1: So have they explained to you what game situations could
Speaker 1: possibly be like come December? Um, honestly, man, I know
Speaker 1: for a fact it's gonna be a percentage of fans, um,
Speaker 1: if any to start off the season. Um, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of trial in thereror to see you know,
Speaker 1: how we could do the COVID testing and all that
Speaker 1: stuff for the people who come to the arena. But
Speaker 1: as a basketball you know, as as as a league,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pretty much just keep everything moving and flowing
Speaker 1: just like they always do. Um, you know, chevny two
Speaker 1: game season of course, which is ten games less than
Speaker 1: you know it's normally been, And we're gonna have a
Speaker 1: less preseason game so and we're gonna end a little
Speaker 1: bit earlier than if we were to start in January.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of pros to everything, but we
Speaker 1: just gotta make sure everybody stay healthy because we don't
Speaker 1: want any outbreaks going on as we travel around the world.
Speaker 1: So absolutely. And they also got to play in now
Speaker 1: while I was on the Jump last week, and they
Speaker 1: talked about the playing now. So now I think that's
Speaker 1: up to the number seven spot is up for grabs.
Speaker 1: I think seven to ten that there's like a little
Speaker 1: round robin tournament to get into the tournament, so it's
Speaker 1: gonna be I think that was the way the NBA
Speaker 1: trying to get a few more games and continue to
Speaker 1: make that TV revenue grow. Jack, being a former Warrior,
Speaker 1: a city you're still loved into this day, what kind
Speaker 1: of advice would you give young grow about being in
Speaker 1: the Bay and what to expect. Man. One thing about it,
Speaker 1: You're not gonna find a city with more lawyer fans.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's not gonna be too much
Speaker 1: different just because it's not in Oakland. But the city
Speaker 1: gonna love you, Bro. And one thing about it, we
Speaker 1: love playing basketball and I know you're similar, but the
Speaker 1: atmosphere is going to bring the best out of you. Bro.
Speaker 1: I played in a lot of a lot of teams
Speaker 1: a lot of different states, but it's no city it's
Speaker 1: no fans like go to States. And on the flip side,
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, the organization Dog I had been
Speaker 1: through a lot for I came there, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. This that was the first team out everything
Speaker 1: I've been through with the broad and this Strip Club stuff.
Speaker 1: As soon as I get there, don Nelson makes me
Speaker 1: a captain. You know, I've never been a captain before this. This,
Speaker 1: this team relied on me as one of their star players.
Speaker 1: So this, this is the organization. Dog is probably by
Speaker 1: far my favorite and one of the top organizations to
Speaker 1: play for. But the city along with the organization, you'll
Speaker 1: never find them come together to get the support like
Speaker 1: you do as a player. There love facts show. I'm
Speaker 1: excited because I mean being a fan of the Warriors
Speaker 1: and they're being a fan of your game. I know
Speaker 1: how much they're gonna love you because you play hard
Speaker 1: as the motherfucker. You dunk, you shoot threes, and you
Speaker 1: play defense like those are like there their three favorite things,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I know you're gonna
Speaker 1: bring a lot of excitement to the city. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to, like you said it, going back to
Speaker 1: somewhat normalcy. So you can really experience what that energy
Speaker 1: is like, not only on the court but off the court.
Speaker 1: Because the energy off the court between those two cities
Speaker 1: out there, Oakland and l a are excuse me, Oakland
Speaker 1: and San Francisco. Man, the fan love is crazy. But
Speaker 1: just the environment and in the energy leading up to
Speaker 1: the playoffs out in the Bay and the sun starts
Speaker 1: coming out and the girls stay out, it's definitely something
Speaker 1: special out there, man. So we're definitely, like I said,
Speaker 1: a fan of you and a fan of the Warriors
Speaker 1: looking at looking forward to, you know, these next few
Speaker 1: years for you up there. Appreciation, Thank you. Let me
Speaker 1: get better, go ahead and perform. Jack touched on it earlier.
Speaker 1: Plenty of highlight dunks. Is there a couple of them
Speaker 1: that stand out for you? Because, like you said, you
Speaker 1: got everyone from the smallest of the biggest in the
Speaker 1: game thus far. JaVale McGee was my favorite. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, Javail Man. He's a big dude. He's a
Speaker 1: big dude, like very tall, Like you know what I I say.
Speaker 1: You know, it's out of block shots and time everything.
Speaker 1: But you know I had a quicker jump than him
Speaker 1: and that in that Laker game, and then uh, the
Speaker 1: night after I get PG g G. Yeah, you body
Speaker 1: pg drillable. Yeah, I kind of I kind of made
Speaker 1: them a little salty, and I gave him. I gave
Speaker 1: him the advantage to by trying to, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: chase down block one of his dunks, which I shouldn't
Speaker 1: have did because it kind of like, you know, he
Speaker 1: could feel itself a little bit. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day and I'm here, you know, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to compete with the best, and you know I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be the best too, So that's really it, Like
Speaker 1: I'm just really trying to go out there and just
Speaker 1: punish motherfucker's. You want all the smoke straight up. You know,
Speaker 1: you're not someone who talks much on the on the court.
Speaker 1: You let your plane do the talking. But you're someone
Speaker 1: who has these little antics when you dunk on motherfucker's
Speaker 1: with the blowing kisses and the push ups and the smiles.
Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Because, like I said, me
Speaker 1: and Jack with someone, if we dunked on someone or
Speaker 1: did something, we're cussing the motherfucker out talking ship. You
Speaker 1: take the other approach, but it's just as effective. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I guess how much you could call like,
Speaker 1: you know, a competitor, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like like a smooth ship talker, because that's just like
Speaker 1: some petty ship to get under somebody's skin for real,
Speaker 1: and then it ain't really like coming at you like
Speaker 1: YouTube would do you know what I'm saying, y'all would
Speaker 1: just let him know, like like I can't necessarily do that.
Speaker 1: And it's this this era man, which I would love too,
Speaker 1: but I gotta just do it a different a different way.
Speaker 1: It got to be a little more smooth. So you know,
Speaker 1: I got what I'm starting to do. They started to
Speaker 1: pick up on it anyway and give me text for it.
Speaker 1: So I gotta figure out some other way to talk
Speaker 1: ship to now. So yeah, don't I don't, don't listen
Speaker 1: to Matt. Matt. It's an asshole. You keep you keep
Speaker 1: being a smooth asshole. Matt, just an asshole. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think. I think I'm more light skinned and that
Speaker 1: more dark skinned. Obviously, you know what it is. That's
Speaker 1: what it is. That ship is. Hey, hey, but real
Speaker 1: talk Jack. I would rather have someone talk shipped to
Speaker 1: me than like blow me a kiss or like smile
Speaker 1: because that makes it man, because I know that's like
Speaker 1: instead of instead of punching someone, you slap him, Like
Speaker 1: that's disrespectful. This fun, uh, you know, Jack and I
Speaker 1: kind of caught the back end, back the tail end
Speaker 1: of it. But social media is so prevalent in today's game.
Speaker 1: You're very active, you have a large following on it.
Speaker 1: How important do you feel like having a balance between
Speaker 1: obviously your professional but still staying active on social media is?
Speaker 1: To you One of the best blessings that I've ever
Speaker 1: had was to meet, uh, like, one of my best friends,
Speaker 1: Cam Beverley, who you know, he is my you know,
Speaker 1: my videographer. He is my credit director to my brands,
Speaker 1: so you know, he really runs the majority of my
Speaker 1: social media. You know, your post for me, you'll check
Speaker 1: my interactions, insights, you know. And all I gotta do
Speaker 1: is really whip up captions and send them to him.
Speaker 1: And it's just from music and songs that I listen to.
Speaker 1: So it's really an easy flow. But I know, I
Speaker 1: know the important su getting on the social media aspect
Speaker 1: of everything so that I don't stress myself out looking
Speaker 1: at comments and all that extraness. And you know, I
Speaker 1: could just keep flowing and living my life. But you know,
Speaker 1: social media is something that we all need just to
Speaker 1: build our brands and other than that, like I don't
Speaker 1: see it being anything else. Like I'm not on there
Speaker 1: just to have fun or look at nothing. So I
Speaker 1: just try to use to get money. For the origin
Speaker 1: of tsunami poppy Where that name comes from? What does
Speaker 1: it mean? Well, tsunami um is an upgrade from a
Speaker 1: wave um. You know, it's just the flows of life,
Speaker 1: flows of energy. You know. I try to adapt the
Speaker 1: water for real, just like Bruce Lee said, And that's
Speaker 1: where that's where you know, the tsunami, the wave, the water,
Speaker 1: all that, all that double entire just come from. And
Speaker 1: you know, I just try to adapt, like water man,
Speaker 1: life comes at you in full circle. You never really
Speaker 1: know what the hell we're gonna happen the next day.
Speaker 1: But you know, as long as you adapt to the
Speaker 1: times and you adapt and make sure that you come
Speaker 1: out on top, that's what everything is about. So it's
Speaker 1: really like a triumphant character. And I'm trying to just create,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody that people can look up and then
Speaker 1: realize that damn I could. I could really do this too,
Speaker 1: you know. I could be somebody you know, when in
Speaker 1: the in the darkest times of my life. So that's
Speaker 1: where that comes from. Man, I don't really I don't
Speaker 1: do it for people to call me poppy or nothing
Speaker 1: like that. But I do see a lot of my
Speaker 1: little kids in the league, you know, coming in. You
Speaker 1: know who appreciate the wave. I'm gonna say that. You
Speaker 1: know a lot of people appreciate the wave and they'll
Speaker 1: try to take the wave. It's one of theirs. So
Speaker 1: I just try to jump on top of and say
Speaker 1: I'm the father of creating ship and that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Now you definitely a wave guard. A lot of people
Speaker 1: don't understand, man, it ain't on You got on? Is
Speaker 1: who is? Who got it on? I tell people at
Speaker 1: all time. I tell my sons that. So yeah, you
Speaker 1: you definitely leading the culture in in a in a
Speaker 1: way new wave shout out to man. I appreciate he
Speaker 1: sent me a nice little box, uh his sweatsuits when
Speaker 1: it first drop, man, So that's love. And you know
Speaker 1: I had to support you know, you know, you're pretty boys.
Speaker 1: Got to support each other. Man. You pretty motherfucker's. You
Speaker 1: two pretty motherfucker's. It was on the move around that time, Man,
Speaker 1: you stuff handled. I actually hit up to all the
Speaker 1: smoke podcasts and I just realized that I was gonna
Speaker 1: be able to hit mad up because I was in
Speaker 1: that lay at the time, so you know, you was
Speaker 1: working that I appreciate. That was love pretty bars connect
Speaker 1: that was uh I mean, and we touched on that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just respect man. You you're flying with
Speaker 1: your ship and your movements the way you moved. Where
Speaker 1: did that style of fashion come from? Was that something
Speaker 1: you're born with, something you picked up on? And if so,
Speaker 1: who was someone you looked up to in that space
Speaker 1: to kind of get you on your own wave? Man?
Speaker 1: I grew up I'm from New Orleans, so you know
Speaker 1: New Orleans has a culture about it that smooth jazz,
Speaker 1: uh French French esque. So I mean, I've always just
Speaker 1: had that that type of drip in my blood. So
Speaker 1: for me to be able to like grow through high school, man,
Speaker 1: I was traded basketball shorts, hoodies and maybe put on
Speaker 1: the jeans pair of jeans with some Jordan's or something.
Speaker 1: But I never really had that that need for fashion
Speaker 1: or anything like that. But I started to get into
Speaker 1: it when my dad used to say, like the stuff
Speaker 1: that I used to wear. It wasn't polished. I used
Speaker 1: to he's sound look homeless. But I used to be like, man,
Speaker 1: this this would make me feel good, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I would just continue to push that
Speaker 1: mode of trying to push that boundary of what made
Speaker 1: me feel good man, because I mean, whatever I wear
Speaker 1: a dog, it's what makes me happy in that day.
Speaker 1: Like so, you know, and and when it comes to fashion, man,
Speaker 1: fashion is just a word at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: It's about how you rocket, you know, how confidently you rocket,
Speaker 1: and then you know what, if you can get somebody
Speaker 1: else to rocket, That's pretty much what that is. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So in two thousand seventeen, while we're on the fashion tip,
Speaker 1: you you know, you made a cause a little controversy
Speaker 1: and league by wearing a Supreme Lake sleeve where they
Speaker 1: you know, they asked you to stop and then JR.
Speaker 1: Went and got us the Supreme thing tat it on
Speaker 1: his leg. How did that whole idea come about? And
Speaker 1: did anything negative come from it? No? I told I
Speaker 1: mean I wore uh we played Brooklyn, I wore it
Speaker 1: in the game, took it off second half. They told
Speaker 1: me to take it off, I was gonna get fined. Uh,
Speaker 1: it was nothing, man. I was really just trying to
Speaker 1: be different, you know. I see they had the NBA
Speaker 1: logo on it, it it had Nike logo on it, but
Speaker 1: it just said Supreme. So I wanted to be one
Speaker 1: of the ones who did it um And then it
Speaker 1: definitely created a lot of a lot of media attention.
Speaker 1: But I played terrible that game too, you know, so
Speaker 1: that it wasn't nothing like I felt like I was.
Speaker 1: I was doing a little too much too after that
Speaker 1: because I didn't played well and I was so focused
Speaker 1: on like just breaking the internet on some young young
Speaker 1: dude stuff that I it took me off from my
Speaker 1: game and that's not it. So it's real of you
Speaker 1: to see that. But did they send you any gear
Speaker 1: after that? I mean, you know, man, Jr got the
Speaker 1: whole photo shoot. J R got a photo shoot with
Speaker 1: this man. It's seeing me nothing, man, but it's good.
Speaker 1: It's love. I still rock that stuff. So yeah, So
Speaker 1: thoughts on you know, when Jack and I came in
Speaker 1: the league, it was white five x white teas, baggy pants,
Speaker 1: and then it went to walkers and now it's to
Speaker 1: the game where it is now, which is at an
Speaker 1: all time I kind of feel like NBA steps culture.
Speaker 1: You know, when we switched the suit, you start seeing
Speaker 1: other sports and suits, you start seeing rappers and suits.
Speaker 1: We kind of moved the needle when it comes to fashion.
Speaker 1: You're definitely at the at the forefront of that in
Speaker 1: the NBA. What if it has been your thoughts on
Speaker 1: the progression of dress from say twenty years ago to today.
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's really like it's an Evan flow though,
Speaker 1: because the way music change is the same way fashion change.
Speaker 1: And if I think the NBA players, since we don't
Speaker 1: we ain't able to like go out and have songs
Speaker 1: that's on the charts to influence the whole generation of people,
Speaker 1: they have to look at what we got on and
Speaker 1: what we're doing and how we're acting on the court
Speaker 1: to influence their music, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: nowadays it's it's more like the young young rappers who
Speaker 1: want to be rock stars, and you know, it's less
Speaker 1: of the real the real straight dudes really out there
Speaker 1: kind of get to it and sending their message out there.
Speaker 1: So I think that's the ebb and flow of it.
Speaker 1: Because the new generation of artists. They really they try
Speaker 1: to wear baggy type clothes, boot cut pants, um, just chains,
Speaker 1: all this type of stuff. But you know, it all
Speaker 1: ties in together, you know it all it's fashion and
Speaker 1: basketball and music is all one and the same. For real,
Speaker 1: it's just a different field. So I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I ain't goes. I don't know who really pushed the mold,
Speaker 1: but I know for a fact that you know, we're
Speaker 1: more visible than a lot of rappers when we come
Speaker 1: win this our season time, Matt, Matt, you said, we
Speaker 1: said twenty years ago. The motherfucker was only four or
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, my bro. So yea, yeah, but he
Speaker 1: was talking and walking to board, but he was four.
Speaker 1: You think me somebody you know, maybe he was plat
Speaker 1: for but he didn't know what was going on, say
Speaker 1: ten years, but twenty years. You gotta remember we always
Speaker 1: bro for real, real ship. My bad. But I know
Speaker 1: he's seen what AI used to dress like, with the
Speaker 1: chains and the white teas and the do rag and
Speaker 1: the baggage fans like that. We had a they changed
Speaker 1: to dress code because of him. Ye see where it came,
Speaker 1: to see where it came from, and to like him
Speaker 1: leading the charge Now, I just kind of want to
Speaker 1: feel with that Vidua was, Bro, that's it I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something different, man. I mean, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be rocking my own brand's clothes. Like you know what
Speaker 1: what you saw from Dope Soul is not what Dope
Speaker 1: So is. That was just something to get us on
Speaker 1: the on the on the on the scene. Um, you
Speaker 1: know it's real high end because so real embroidery, real
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So I'm gonna try to switch that up, man,
Speaker 1: so everybody could be individuals man real. Yeah. Well, if
Speaker 1: you got if you got any fly ship for older
Speaker 1: niggas such as myself, you know the address already of course, man,
Speaker 1: for sure I might need to message this time. And also,
Speaker 1: happy early birthday, bro, you got a birthday coming up. Happy,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So you've faced you've been through
Speaker 1: a lot, man, You've been in the league. What are
Speaker 1: you going to this come back to be your seventh year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. So you yeah, you've been You've seen
Speaker 1: all aspects of the game thus far. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. You you you've been drafted fifteen SAT your
Speaker 1: first year, experienced success traded, really found your footing, traded again,
Speaker 1: now traded to Golden State where its styles like now
Speaker 1: it's time for this boy to make his name. Up
Speaker 1: to this point, what has just been your whole thought
Speaker 1: process of the NBA, Like I said, experienced so much
Speaker 1: at a young age already, from being drafted to Washington
Speaker 1: and playing with John and Brad who when a time
Speaker 1: that I was with Brad, he was on the cusp
Speaker 1: of you know not he wasn't an All Star yet.
Speaker 1: And then I've seen John who was an All Star
Speaker 1: like continuously year after year in his like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: saying his prime, but like in his real flow. And
Speaker 1: then I got to see Brad become an All Star
Speaker 1: and then John to take the back seat and not
Speaker 1: be an All Star for a year because if it's
Speaker 1: injury obviously, and it was just like yo, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta just keep staying with it. You know, you
Speaker 1: gotta keep staying with it so that you can make
Speaker 1: a name for yourself, because it's about the collection of
Speaker 1: what you do over spend the time, not the collection
Speaker 1: of what you do over one year, two years. So
Speaker 1: you know, I just gotta stay with it, man, because
Speaker 1: I want to win championships. You know, I want to
Speaker 1: be an All Star, of course, and you know all that,
Speaker 1: all that is a conversation in the formula for somebody
Speaker 1: to be potenional in the Hall of Fame. So you know,
Speaker 1: as as time ticks, man, you just gotta continue to
Speaker 1: stay with it. And if you know, God speed it
Speaker 1: my time don't don't don't tick like that in my favor.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I know I got
Speaker 1: a lot of things going from me that I could
Speaker 1: just be a staple in this NBA. You know, before
Speaker 1: it's all saidn't done. Mm hmm. Now you stay on
Speaker 1: the path, you're gonna get. You're gonna get what you're
Speaker 1: looking for. Are be coming down the stretch to the
Speaker 1: final questions. These are just quick hitters. Whatever comes to
Speaker 1: your mind. First, Um, toughest matchup you've had thus far
Speaker 1: in the lead and y Drew Holiday, uh dude, dude
Speaker 1: to everybody say this nigga name Man is a beast man.
Speaker 1: He don't waste no movements, He's strong and he's smart.
Speaker 1: So like, I really salute to him. One of my
Speaker 1: favorite players in this league. So yeah, mine, any artists
Speaker 1: you would like to be named dropped by. I'm gonna say, right,
Speaker 1: wave your way, right way, man, here the ghetto gospel
Speaker 1: singer for show Ye shout out, shout out right away, man,
Speaker 1: nice man. If you were going to do an all
Speaker 1: fashion starting five for the NBA, obviously with you in it,
Speaker 1: who would be your other four counterparts in there? Jordan Clarkson,
Speaker 1: h James Johnson. Um, I'm gonna put Russ in there,
Speaker 1: Salute Russ Um. Who else? Man? I gotta get a
Speaker 1: big fella in there. Man, I'm gonna put DeAndre Aiden there. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying he'll he'll hear a fresh seven footer.
Speaker 1: He just don't be caring enough to be dressing up
Speaker 1: to games and stuff. But uh, and I'm gonna say D'Angelo.
Speaker 1: D'Angelo got a smooth like smooth cats way. So yeah, y'all, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all swag low ki remind me of each other. The
Speaker 1: way y'all you know, kind of just carry yourself and
Speaker 1: the way you can set step trends on and off
Speaker 1: the court. Five dinner guests, dead or alive to have
Speaker 1: an amazing night conversation with Michael Jordan Kobe. I need
Speaker 1: them to go at it so I could really pick
Speaker 1: their brain about what they're going at it about. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go Prince. I want to lady to Dinna. You
Speaker 1: might want to lay that down. You're right, You're right,
Speaker 1: You're right. I'm gonna go with my uh my girlfriend
Speaker 1: shot sho Okayah, I don't need know abody else. You
Speaker 1: might need a young rapper in the mix to do.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to think of. But I don't
Speaker 1: want to sell because you know what I'm saying people,
Speaker 1: it'd be weird that, Uh, I'm gonna have to go
Speaker 1: with a somebody that's popping. I'm gonna go with a
Speaker 1: little Wayne Man show that alright, Jack, Before you ask
Speaker 1: the last question, let me ask you this. Who's your top?
Speaker 1: We haven't talked too much about music, but I know
Speaker 1: you're really into who right now? Who are your top?
Speaker 1: You know three five artists that you have heavy in rotation.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Rid Wave obviously I said him earlier.
Speaker 1: I got young Boy on there. He's speaking of it's time.
Speaker 1: What's up top? Yeah, he's speaking in murder music right now.
Speaker 1: I need that energy, um, and I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: Rex Life Rod. He he's actually from the Bay, you know,
Speaker 1: and I encourage you all to listen to him if
Speaker 1: y'all haven't. Man, he really just he's like a like
Speaker 1: a preacher, you know what I'm saying. He could just
Speaker 1: speaking to things that you'll be thinking about. So Rex Life,
Speaker 1: Rode Man, shout out for Roger. Right, who do you
Speaker 1: want us to have on the show? Now? Before you
Speaker 1: answer this, whatever you're answer is, you have to be
Speaker 1: able to help us get them on this show. So
Speaker 1: who do you think should be on All the Smoke
Speaker 1: for show? Uh? Who do I think should be on
Speaker 1: All the Smoke? Uh? Who has already been on All
Speaker 1: the Smoke? That's tough. That's a good point. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what, man, I really want you all to get
Speaker 1: trying to get young Thug on the show. You know why, man,
Speaker 1: because like he he misunderstood and he's a leader of
Speaker 1: a generation for real life, and you know, I want
Speaker 1: him to be explained, like why he wore the dress,
Speaker 1: why he did all that extra sit But you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, man, he makes some
Speaker 1: pretty different music and it's kind of fire if you
Speaker 1: really listen to it. Now, I I love Slie. I love.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know, a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't notice when I right, when he first started blowing up.
Speaker 1: I had a house in Maybeleson. He drove. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been rapping for years. He drove, came to my
Speaker 1: house and did a song for me in my studio.
Speaker 1: So he always been a real but he always been
Speaker 1: a real with slime. I always been a real one
Speaker 1: man for shoot out, shout out always. So I want
Speaker 1: to thank you, guys man for shore No, thank you man,
Speaker 1: good luck, appreciate you. Great, great situation. You know, Raymond Ritter,
Speaker 1: that's our guy, great guy man, great team. I can't
Speaker 1: say enough good things about that organization, man, So I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see you get to work with them this season.
Speaker 1: So good luck with everything. Bro. Yeah, and make sure
Speaker 1: you tell Mike Brown and Steve krist Say, what's happening.
Speaker 1: I got you for show show. Appreciate you, Geez love
Speaker 1: love b appreciate you. The newest Golden State Warrior, Kelly Bray.
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. Man. You can catch this on
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