Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to bokay f Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody reporting from the home Bunker. Folks.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to bring to you today this episode
Speaker 1: that I think is really important, not just for parents,
Speaker 1: not just for teachers, but for all of us. You know,
Speaker 1: oftentimes when we talk about education on this show, I
Speaker 1: forget to make kind of the disclaimer that regardless of
Speaker 1: whether or not you actually have kids or plan on
Speaker 1: having kids at all, our education system and the strength
Speaker 1: of it matters to all of us because they are
Speaker 1: creating the future thinkers, workers, innovators, or what the Republican
Speaker 1: Party wants is the permanent underclass in this country in
Speaker 1: order to uphold capitalism and the one percent. What Grace
Speaker 1: Lynch's new show Teaching Texas goes into a deep dive
Speaker 1: about how the state of Texas has had control over
Speaker 1: American history, over our textbooks for the last sixty years.
Speaker 1: The show begins with a historical context, going back to
Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties into this couple, this white couple, who
Speaker 1: were uncomfortable, you know, with the way that history was
Speaker 1: being taught, how it went against their Judeo Christian values.
Speaker 1: And that their idea of America was running in contrary
Speaker 1: to you know, the truth that was being talked about
Speaker 1: America's founding and subsequent racism and policies of discrimination. But
Speaker 1: we know that the far right has an all out
Speaker 1: onsawt against education. Right now, affirmative action is on the
Speaker 1: chopping block and will be dismantled by the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: We know that affirmative action allowed for people of color,
Speaker 1: black people in particular, to be able to aspire to
Speaker 1: higher education at predominantly white institutions because they had a
Speaker 1: history of what discrimination shocking, and so affirmative action came.
Speaker 1: And then now you have a rise in the number
Speaker 1: of people of color black people over the decades going
Speaker 1: into higher education. Well, what else do we learn. We
Speaker 1: know that a majority of black and brown kids of
Speaker 1: color are who are in public education system, and so
Speaker 1: we know that that has been the reason for a
Speaker 1: quest to defund public education throughout the decades. And now
Speaker 1: they are using quote unquote the boogeyman of critical race
Speaker 1: theory as the reasoning behind wanting to run push people
Speaker 1: of color out of the public education system because with
Speaker 1: more people taking their children out and putting them in
Speaker 1: religious institutions are putting them in private schools, will then
Speaker 1: you're not going to need to have the same kind
Speaker 1: of investment right into our public education system, which in
Speaker 1: turn does what exactly creates a more pliable and under
Speaker 1: educated working class that won't go against their authoritarian regimes
Speaker 1: and that will live in a cycle of desperation and poverty,
Speaker 1: right creating the permanent underclass that this country that Republicans want.
Speaker 1: What Teaching Texas in their eight part series do is
Speaker 1: connect the dots between how this started in Texas and again,
Speaker 1: what happens in Texas happens around the country because they
Speaker 1: control the textbook situation that goes into all of our
Speaker 1: nation schools. So we can't just say to ourselves, well,
Speaker 1: I'm in New York, or I'm in California, or you know,
Speaker 1: I'm in Oregon or I'm in Iowa, so like this
Speaker 1: doesn't matter for me. No, it does, because they're disseminating
Speaker 1: their watered down white supremacists encircled vision of America all
Speaker 1: throughout the country and invading our public school systems. With
Speaker 1: Grace Lynch, I will also discuss, you know, the rise
Speaker 1: in violence that we have seen at school board meetings
Speaker 1: and how political violence isn't just about the violence that
Speaker 1: is happening at the federal level, but it's what we
Speaker 1: are seeing at the state and local level that should
Speaker 1: be raising alarm bells. So I'm really excited, folks, for
Speaker 1: you to dig into this conversation with Grace Lynch, audio
Speaker 1: journalist and the host of Teaching Texas that is coming
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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Folks. I'm very excited to welcome
Speaker 1: to woka F for the very first time, Grace Lynch,
Speaker 1: who is an audio journalist and producer at Wonder Media
Speaker 1: Network and is host of the show Teaching Texas, which
Speaker 1: does a deep dive into how Texas has dictated American
Speaker 1: education over the last sixty years. Grace, as we were
Speaker 1: talking before we hit record, I was sharing with you
Speaker 1: that and as my the WOKAF audience knows that I
Speaker 1: am a former early childhood educator. My master's degree worked
Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill doing education policy, was a lobbyist. Education
Speaker 1: is very important to me and has always been, and
Speaker 1: I feel like I am, I guess not the only
Speaker 1: person now because you've got a whole podcast dedicated to
Speaker 1: how dangerous the state of Texas is to the nation's education.
Speaker 1: So give us a little bit about why this podcast
Speaker 1: and why now? Well, first of all, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for having me. It's a real pleasure to be
Speaker 1: here with you and to be on the show. I'm
Speaker 1: a longtime listener and fans, so this is a real
Speaker 1: treat for me. And why this show? Why now? Well,
Speaker 1: I think that if anyone has been even remotely paying
Speaker 1: attention to the news, or honestly even desperately trying to
Speaker 1: avoid it, you have still been bombarded with the CRT
Speaker 1: debate that is raging all across the country. Parents storming
Speaker 1: school board meetings, teachers and administrators getting fired over acknowledgements
Speaker 1: of racism existing, all this anti trans legislation that's been
Speaker 1: passing about you know, trans kids in schools. It's education
Speaker 1: has become the latest front of our culture wars. And
Speaker 1: I actually pitched the show years ago, long before kind
Speaker 1: of the CRT debate took over, because I really was
Speaker 1: just fascinated by the fact that Texas had such an
Speaker 1: outsized impact on our education and wanted to dive into
Speaker 1: that more So, I think the why now kind of
Speaker 1: honestly presented itself to me in a really lucky way,
Speaker 1: but that as we're heading into a mid terms where
Speaker 1: you know, democracy is on the ballot in many ways,
Speaker 1: I think that something that should not be overlooked is
Speaker 1: the fact that public education is the bedrock of democracy
Speaker 1: and is really a foundational element that creates an informs
Speaker 1: doesn't read that can function in a democracy. So I
Speaker 1: feel as if that these debates have been kind of siloed,
Speaker 1: the discussions over CRT and this you know, acknowledgement of
Speaker 1: the crisis in our democracy, and really they're one and
Speaker 1: the same, and so I think that I hope any
Speaker 1: audience that comes, you know, on and listens to the
Speaker 1: show as we journey all the way back to the
Speaker 1: nineteen six season, really look at this grassroots movement that
Speaker 1: began in Texas that they also connect that to, you know,
Speaker 1: and stick with us until we reach the modern day
Speaker 1: and kind of start to talk about the implications of
Speaker 1: education and its importance right now. Well, I think what
Speaker 1: is really important is that you are giving a history
Speaker 1: lesson rights as well as, you know, bringing folks up
Speaker 1: to the modern day. The reality in America, though, is
Speaker 1: that education has always been at the forefront of every
Speaker 1: culture war. I mean, we harken back to the images
Speaker 1: of Ruby Bridges, who by the way, is not an
Speaker 1: old lady by any stretch of the American imagination, and
Speaker 1: it's alive now, and the pictures of her being escorted
Speaker 1: by the National Guard as a as a four or
Speaker 1: five year old to desegregate her elementary school. This happened
Speaker 1: in the nineteen in the nineteen fifties, and what is
Speaker 1: one of the things that had prompted Brown versus the
Speaker 1: desegregating schools um came because of Brown versus the Board
Speaker 1: of Education, and then we had the result being this
Speaker 1: that children Black children needed to have literal military protection
Speaker 1: in order to attend school. So I want you to
Speaker 1: talk a bit about some of the historical things contexts
Speaker 1: that we forget right or rather and I say forget,
Speaker 1: but we're purposefully not really delved into in our education.
Speaker 1: Um to have us understand that what we are seeing
Speaker 1: now with from a book book burning to the narrowing
Speaker 1: of curriculum, you know, in order to appease white people
Speaker 1: and as Ronda Santis says, you know, to eliminate any
Speaker 1: any any, any possible white guilt that could that could
Speaker 1: ever happen, like we need to uphold white people's comfort.
Speaker 1: Talk to us about some of the things that have
Speaker 1: sparked on the show with regard to history that we
Speaker 1: should know absolutely. And I think to your point, you know,
Speaker 1: why we're paying attention to it right now as opposed
Speaker 1: to the past, where if this has always been present,
Speaker 1: is the fact that in the past, these conversations, in
Speaker 1: these debates took place in rooms where people really weren't
Speaker 1: paying much attention. You know, these were small elected offices
Speaker 1: where people weren't really sure what these people did. Not
Speaker 1: many people turned out for these elections. Grassroots activists showed
Speaker 1: up to these hearings that many people knew what they
Speaker 1: were doing, and so I think that the interesting thing
Speaker 1: about what this show does is it traces it back
Speaker 1: to those small town activists who started raising concerns over
Speaker 1: what they saw in their children's textbooks that they didn't
Speaker 1: think aligned with their what they called Judeo Christian values.
Speaker 1: They didn't think it purported the image of America that
Speaker 1: they wanted their child to have, And in many instances
Speaker 1: and almost every other state, their impact on education would
Speaker 1: have ended there. It would have ended with them maybe
Speaker 1: influencing their local school board, maybe influencing a district wide
Speaker 1: school board. But instead, because this was Norma and mel
Speaker 1: Gabler in Texas, where they adopt textbooks K through twelve
Speaker 1: for the whole state, making it the largest market for
Speaker 1: textbooks in the country. Because they were the sole constituency
Speaker 1: that this board essentially needed to cater to, they ended
Speaker 1: up dictating what needed to be in these textbooks that
Speaker 1: were made for the largest market and therefore sold all
Speaker 1: over to the rest of the country. So we're not
Speaker 1: only charting the story of the individuals who become part
Speaker 1: of this movement, who latch onto a system that they're
Speaker 1: able to puppeteer to their will, but also the fact
Speaker 1: that the story could only have ever taken place in Texas,
Speaker 1: and because it takes place in Texas, it has implications
Speaker 1: that spread out all across the country. And I just
Speaker 1: don't think that a lot of people necessarily realize that
Speaker 1: the small town activists who have no education background behind
Speaker 1: you were able to pop a teer essentially a system
Speaker 1: that then rippled out all over the rest of the country.
Speaker 1: And it's also worth acknowledging that, like a lot of
Speaker 1: these folks throughout history, like not only just Melanorma who
Speaker 1: we feature, but there are many acolytes that they inspire.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of white folks, and it's a lot
Speaker 1: of white moms, a lot of white women. And that's
Speaker 1: also you know, many leaders of the anti CRT backlash
Speaker 1: that we're seeing today are white women. And these are
Speaker 1: women typically of privilege, who have, as particularly in the
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties through nineties, the ability to stay home and
Speaker 1: be really engaged in the education of their children and
Speaker 1: spend time reviewing textbooks, spend time, you know, participating in
Speaker 1: school boards. There's a real element of both like racial
Speaker 1: and class segregation and privilege that's embodied in all of
Speaker 1: this activism that you know, we slowly kind of weave
Speaker 1: and chart through over the course of several decades. In today,
Speaker 1: I'm so I'm so glad that you that you brought
Speaker 1: up both the race and the privilege element in the
Speaker 1: stay at home mom mom and mafia bubble, right, because
Speaker 1: because it's you know it, you like. A memory just
Speaker 1: popped into my head from me being an elementary school
Speaker 1: and I went to elementary school out east on Long Island,
Speaker 1: in a majority white school district and in New York.
Speaker 1: And I remember my mother, who at the time was
Speaker 1: a divorcee, uh you know, mother of two and a working,
Speaker 1: full time working mom. And as most those kids built
Speaker 1: their parents, I had said to her, you know, why
Speaker 1: why can't you come on my field trips the way
Speaker 1: that so and So's mother comes on my field trips,
Speaker 1: or like, you know, come and do like the bakesale,
Speaker 1: you know and so and so. But my mother looked
Speaker 1: at me, I'll never forget it, and I'm like a
Speaker 1: grown ass woman. My mother looked at me grace and
Speaker 1: was just like, because I have a job, because I
Speaker 1: because I actually work, and I need you to understand
Speaker 1: that life. I don't the spare time that I have,
Speaker 1: right is this is not what it is dedicated too.
Speaker 1: And my mother was very very clear. But I think
Speaker 1: about that, and I think about the way that we
Speaker 1: don't lift up those working moms and those working parents
Speaker 1: and don't make it so, for instance, that you would
Speaker 1: do these meetings at a time when everybody could participate
Speaker 1: right where you would be, you would be opening up,
Speaker 1: you know, an opportunity so that every parent has a voice,
Speaker 1: everyone's voice is equal. So I just want you to
Speaker 1: you know, the question for you is I don't think
Speaker 1: that we tie in the class and tie in the
Speaker 1: racial element of school board and school participation. It's like,
Speaker 1: if you're not showing up for parent teacher conferences, you're
Speaker 1: the bad parent, as opposed to you're making parent teacher
Speaker 1: conferences in the middle of the fucking day, right when
Speaker 1: regular people are working and have jobs, and so like,
Speaker 1: I just kind of want to talk about the parental
Speaker 1: influence and what you have learned, But what kind of
Speaker 1: informed the questions that you were asking in the investigation
Speaker 1: that you were doing with this series. Well, one thing
Speaker 1: I can point to right away is later in the show,
Speaker 1: when we you know, kind of fast forward into the
Speaker 1: modern day. We spoke with this group called the Round
Speaker 1: Rock Black Parents Association, and it's a group that's based
Speaker 1: on a suburb outside of Austin, round Rock, and it's
Speaker 1: a group of parents who are parents of color who
Speaker 1: are advocating for their students. And it's really unique in
Speaker 1: not only the state, but a kind of in the
Speaker 1: country because they have been able to successfully stop books
Speaker 1: from being banned in their district, which is a really
Speaker 1: incredible thing to see. And they emphasize so much the
Speaker 1: ability to like build community and you know, reinforce that
Speaker 1: community and create a sense of collectivism that has enabled
Speaker 1: them to do that. But I will also say that
Speaker 1: they spoke really candidly about the fact that, like, they
Speaker 1: don't go to school board meetings because those aren't safe
Speaker 1: environments for them because right now they're so toxic and
Speaker 1: filled with such vitriol usually coming from white parents who
Speaker 1: don't want their white children to feel uncomfortable by learning
Speaker 1: about systemic racism in America, that they don't feel like
Speaker 1: that's really a space for them. So they either send
Speaker 1: testimony separately, they send letters separately, they somehow make their
Speaker 1: voices heard outside of that pathway they've had to circumvent
Speaker 1: the system altogether, or they lean on the white members
Speaker 1: of their coalition to like kind of go and you
Speaker 1: do that on their behalf, and so on some level,
Speaker 1: I thought that was really inspiring to like see a
Speaker 1: group of people who have had great success who have said,
Speaker 1: we're not going to operate within your system that is
Speaker 1: not built for us and doesn't want us here. But
Speaker 1: it's also is very disconcerting that a group of parents
Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable at a school board, meaning because they
Speaker 1: risk being attacked essentially. So yeah, it's there's no like
Speaker 1: even though that's like one of the like I would say,
Speaker 1: more inspiring episodes that we have where you really do
Speaker 1: get a sense that this debate is not just completely
Speaker 1: consumed by people who are advocating for a very loud minority.
Speaker 1: It is still it still illuminates just how many issues
Speaker 1: are still just based into the system of how parents
Speaker 1: and educators and the people monitoring education all interact. I
Speaker 1: mean that should be like headline stories in and of itself.
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Speaker 1: I will say that at the beginning of COVID, when
Speaker 1: schools are getting ready to come back from a year
Speaker 1: and a half of remote learning, we watched school board
Speaker 1: meetings turn into cage matches right again at the hands
Speaker 1: of white parents. And the fact that we don't talk
Speaker 1: about that and the potential and like the rise in
Speaker 1: I mean, when we talk about the rise in political
Speaker 1: violence in this country, we're talking about you know, rhetoric
Speaker 1: at the federal at the state, federal level, but we're
Speaker 1: not really talking about the continued violence or threats of intimidation,
Speaker 1: which is what you're saying. Your folks, the folks that
Speaker 1: you interviewed experienced, you know, just the fact that you
Speaker 1: say that these that this group of parents of color,
Speaker 1: black parents, brown parents needing to lean on the white
Speaker 1: allies in this group in order to go to a
Speaker 1: school board meeting. To me is terrifying. It's not great.
Speaker 1: It's certainly not great. And you know, we also did
Speaker 1: those speak too many wonderful educators or parents that are
Speaker 1: white that like really want this diversity education in their schools.
Speaker 1: They either want that for their students, and they want
Speaker 1: their students of color to be seen in the stories
Speaker 1: and the books that are in their libraries and in
Speaker 1: the history of the country, and they want their you know,
Speaker 1: white kids to know about the history of the country
Speaker 1: and to be more responsible moving forward. So there is
Speaker 1: a strong presence of ally ship, especially amongst people involved
Speaker 1: in education, but we do need to work on making
Speaker 1: these spaces safer, and that certainly has not been the
Speaker 1: case recently. And I think that what we're seeing even
Speaker 1: more so as I spoke to the co founder of
Speaker 1: Moms for Liberty, which is one of the nationwide groups
Speaker 1: that's really pushing a lot of these book bands, and
Speaker 1: she is a very strong willed and very animated about
Speaker 1: you know, getting these books out of schools, getting CRT
Speaker 1: out of schools, and doesn't seem to see that she
Speaker 1: is now essentially imposing her vision of parenting onto others,
Speaker 1: and that is I think illuminating, and I think that
Speaker 1: there's also, you know, something to be said for the
Speaker 1: fact that, like, these spaces were made for her to
Speaker 1: operate in and not made for some of the other
Speaker 1: parents we spoke to. And unfortunately, some of the parents
Speaker 1: of color we spoke to, like they've taken their kids
Speaker 1: out of public school, and some of them who are
Speaker 1: in the education profession have left because it's just not
Speaker 1: worth that. And that, to me was the real heartache,
Speaker 1: was to hear you know, this mom talk about how
Speaker 1: she's had to take her kid out of public school,
Speaker 1: and ultimately, almost every education professional I spoke to said, yeah,
Speaker 1: we think that this is that's the result of a
Speaker 1: long campaign to discredit public schools, to have people distrust teachers,
Speaker 1: distrust their local school, distrust public education. And that has
Speaker 1: been a long time goal of the right, and with
Speaker 1: the Boogeyman CRT, they have really figured out how to
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I think and you know, I've said
Speaker 1: it many times on this show and other programs, which
Speaker 1: is that the goal here is to defund public education,
Speaker 1: and they're not. It is not sufficient in the way
Speaker 1: that they have long been defunding education, which is by
Speaker 1: virtue of the fact of your parents' income and the taxes,
Speaker 1: the property taxes that they pay dictate how good or
Speaker 1: how bad your public school is. Right, that isn't enough
Speaker 1: anymore for the far right. They want to ensure that
Speaker 1: these schools shutter all together, and only the elite, those
Speaker 1: that can pay for private education or independent schools, will
Speaker 1: be able to continue, you know, through their path to success,
Speaker 1: and that we will create a permanent underclass in this country,
Speaker 1: one that is under educated. And you know, it is
Speaker 1: the upholders right, the workers for capitalism, like this is
Speaker 1: this is you know, and and and you know, because
Speaker 1: the one percent can exist without having other people's backs
Speaker 1: to stand on. And if everybody is allowed into college,
Speaker 1: if everyone is allowed the same kind of access in equity,
Speaker 1: well then people are going to want to strive out
Speaker 1: of their pre predescribed cast that they have been put
Speaker 1: into in this country. We don't call it a cast system,
Speaker 1: but that's what it is, because the likelihood that you're
Speaker 1: able to move out of your parents economic status is
Speaker 1: reliant upon education right and access to that education. And
Speaker 1: you see that attacked from the court cases that are
Speaker 1: before the Supreme Court with regard to affirmative action, to
Speaker 1: student student loan debt relief, to now K through twelve.
Speaker 1: It's an attack on the entire system. It is. And
Speaker 1: I will say two things to that. One, I believe
Speaker 1: in like two thousand and seven or two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: it was acknowledged that in Texas the majority of students
Speaker 1: in public schools were students of color, and that is
Speaker 1: coincides exactly with the states divestment in public schools. So
Speaker 1: there absolutely continues to be a very present racial element
Speaker 1: to all of this. The second thing I'll say is
Speaker 1: that one of our experts on the show, Charissa Lopez,
Speaker 1: who is the current political director for Texas Freedom Network,
Speaker 1: which is a progressive watchdog organization that like watches the
Speaker 1: Texas State Board of Education, she said to me, point blank,
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to influence with the next
Speaker 1: generation of people think politically, you start with what you
Speaker 1: teach them in public school. And so not only is
Speaker 1: this about creating you know, a permanent working class or
Speaker 1: you know, enabling the one percent, it's also about creating
Speaker 1: a very pliable voter base, and that shouldn't be ignored
Speaker 1: in all of this either, like there is a class element,
Speaker 1: there is a race element, and then there is just
Speaker 1: a blatant political play to instill in people values that
Speaker 1: are going to be beneficial to, in this instance, the
Speaker 1: Republican Party. One other point to that is that the
Speaker 1: Texas State Board of Education, I believe, in twenty ten
Speaker 1: changed textbooks from referring to the Constitution as a living constitution,
Speaker 1: which is how I remember learning about it in school,
Speaker 1: to an enduring constitution. She has a very different interpretation
Speaker 1: of that document, and they actually got the publisher of
Speaker 1: the textbook that coined the phrase living constitution to change
Speaker 1: it to enduring constitution. And like how that immediately invokes
Speaker 1: these ideas of textualism, of originalism, of returning to this
Speaker 1: founding idea is completely different than how I grew up
Speaker 1: learning about it, which is that like, this is a
Speaker 1: document that is growing with us, that's changing with us.
Speaker 1: That's like adapting to society that is meant to live,
Speaker 1: And like small things like that are really impactful for
Speaker 1: how a kid conceives of the nation, and it's going
Speaker 1: to be more willing to accept this idea of like,
Speaker 1: this is the way it was intended, this is the
Speaker 1: way it must be as opposed to why don't we
Speaker 1: reassess and grow and reflect the times? Yeah, because the
Speaker 1: point of the far right and the Republican Party isn't
Speaker 1: to grow, It isn't to expand. It is to narrow,
Speaker 1: and it is to under educate and undermine our democracy
Speaker 1: with the quest for power. And what troubles me so much,
Speaker 1: and this is why I'm just so grateful for your
Speaker 1: podcast Teaching Texas is that more people need to be
Speaker 1: aware of what is going on. And it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: And this is what I want to state for folks listening.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter whether you have kids in the school
Speaker 1: systems or not, whether you are you know, childless like
Speaker 1: I am. How our citizenry is being educated will impact
Speaker 1: and affect every single one of us, right, And that's
Speaker 1: the thing that is not mentioned. It's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I don't have a kid, so I can go about
Speaker 1: my business. No, you cannot. What they are doing now.
Speaker 1: It is an all out war and assault on our
Speaker 1: education system, which is an all out war and assault
Speaker 1: on our actual freedom and liberty. Grace. I want to
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Tell folks where they can find
Speaker 1: Teaching Texas and connect. Absolutely, you can find Teaching Texas
Speaker 1: anywhere you listen to podcasts, So wherever you're listening to
Speaker 1: this wonderful show, you can also search for Teaching Texas
Speaker 1: and find us there. It's an eight episode series for
Speaker 1: out Weekly. We span many decades of history. It ranges
Speaker 1: from fun archival tape to really zany characters who are
Speaker 1: still alive in working today, to really inspiring people who
Speaker 1: are in education, and to really dangerous folks who are
Speaker 1: also trying to manipulate this system. And it's all coming
Speaker 1: to a head this mid terms with the Texas State
Speaker 1: Board of Education once again assessing social study standards for
Speaker 1: the state and therefore for the country. And so it's
Speaker 1: a really it's an important story. It's a vibrant story,
Speaker 1: and I really hope people give it a shot. So
Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me on to talk
Speaker 1: about it. Thank you for joining us, and I hope
Speaker 1: to have you back. Thank you, Grace, And again, this
Speaker 1: show is Teaching Texas folks, so get into it. Appreciate you,
Speaker 1: thank you. That is it for me today, Dear friends
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