1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: All right, third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now, 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: let's talk about the Russia Ukraine War and what is 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: going on here, because there is some reporting about a 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: ceasefire we need to dive into. And the ceasfire hasn't 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: been agreed to you yet, but there's movement in that direction. 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: There is movement in the direction of figuring out what exactly. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: Is happening here. 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: You know what I was going to break down, break 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: it down for you. But the Commander in Chief himself, 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, just spoke about this moments ago. And here 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: he is on This is from the guys from the 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: Oval right here he is cut twenty yeah, from the 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: Oval Office, cut twenty four an update from Donald Trump 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: himself on Russia Ukraine moments ago. 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: Play it well, I would like. 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: To see a ceasefire from Russia. And we have, you know, 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: not been working in the dark. We've been discussing with 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: Ukraine land, pieces of land that would be kept and 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: lost and all of the other elements of a final agreement. 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: There is a power plant involved, you know, a very 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 3: big power plant involved. Who's going to get the power 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: plant and who's going to get this and that, and 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: so you know, it's not an easy process. Phase one 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 3: is the ceasefire. A lot of the individual subjects have 25 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: been discussed. You know, we've been discussing concepts of land 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: because you don't want to waste time with a ceasefire 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 3: if it's not going to mean anything. So we say, look, 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 3: this is what you can get, this is what you 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: can't get. They discuss NATO and being in NATO, and 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: everybody knows what the answer to that is. They've known 31 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: that answer for forty years, in all fairness, so a 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: lot of the details of a final agreement have actually 33 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: been discussed. 34 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: Now we're going to see whether or. 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: Not Russia is there, and if they're not, it'll be 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: a very disappointing moment for the world. 37 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: Now it's in Russia's court. 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: As I told you, the way that this is being 39 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: reported on is a fascinating look into how the Democrat 40 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: propaganda media functions. And so I want I want to 41 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: focus in on that because here's where we are. A 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: war started on Biden's watch that he and the New 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: York Times and others kept saying Ukraine's gonna win. Ukraine 44 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: held them off. The Ukraine's gonna win, and that's not happening, 45 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: and they didn't do anything to get a ceasefire. They 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: didn't do anything to get a negotiation going for three 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: years and now Donald Trump hasn't even been office two months, 48 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: coming up on two months, and you have Ukraine in 49 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: principle agreeing to a ceasefire subject to conditions. Fine, look, 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: you heard Trump just now say it. There's gonna it's 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: gonna be a process. It's not easy, but we're working 52 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: toward it. We're working toward an end to this. And 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: now Russia has come out and said, Putin has come 54 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: out and said, Okay, yeah, let's let's talk about this 55 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: ceasefire thing. There are conditions as well, but I'm to 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: have this discussion or I think that it's. 57 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 2: Time that we have this talk. 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: And he voiced what the New York Times is calling 59 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: preliminary support for the thirty day ceasefire proposal. I went 60 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: through the New York Times explanation of what's in this, 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: and it's just astonishing how much they try to shade 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: the thinking here of anybody who reads this such that 63 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: somehow this is Trump just doing Putin. 64 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: A huge favor. 65 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: This is a big favor for Putin, that this is 66 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: what Putin wants he wants the ceasefire. Trump wants the 67 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: conflict to stop, and Ukraine should want the conflict to 68 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: stop as well. 69 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: People are dying. 70 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: In large numbers every month in this thing, and we 71 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: are funding it. I think we're giving them, you know, 72 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: like a billion dollars a day or something. I mean, 73 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: we are giving them a whole bunch of money. And 74 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: we don't want to keep doing that either. So this 75 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: isn't about who do you like more, Ukraine or Russia. 76 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: This isn't about who's the good guy, who's the bad guy, 77 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: who's right and who's wrong. It's how do we end 78 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: this thing and how you end to conflict go back 79 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: to the Versailles treaty. How you end to conflict is 80 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: important too, so that you can get stability going forward 81 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: and you don't have mass death. The avoidance of mass 82 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: death would be something that I would hope that Democrats 83 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: could agree with Trump and the Republicans on here. But 84 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: no Slava Ukraini or whatever it is that they say, 85 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: you know, fight Ukrainian should fight to the very last 86 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: drop of Ukrainian men Ukrainian's blood. According to Democrats in 87 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: this country, who aren't doing any fighting and don't really 88 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: know what the hell's going on. 89 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: Anyway, that's the situation. 90 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: And when you read the New York Times update on this, 91 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: they're so negative about the prospects here for any kind 92 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: of success. Meanwhile, at any point when Biden was president, 93 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: did you hear talk of a ceasefire negotiation or a 94 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: ceasefire at all? Was there any point at which that, No, 95 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 1: it didn't. So Trump hasn't even been office for two months, 96 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: and here we are at a new phase of this 97 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: conflict with at least the prospect of ending this thing. 98 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: And people got so upset. The Democrats got so upset 99 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: about what happened to Zelenski in the Oval office, meanwhiles, 100 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: Lenzi's comeback said, look, sorry about that. 101 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I get it. 102 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: You know we neither side is gonna be happy here 103 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: in this negotiation. Neither side is gonna get everything that 104 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: they want. And this is what's so interesting to me. 105 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: The New York Times and others in their report and 106 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: completely leave off that Trump is saying, look, Russia, you're 107 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: gonna get You're gonna get hit with a whole new 108 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: level of financial pain here, specifically with regard to EU 109 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: purchases EU ability to buy oil and gas from Russia 110 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: from the banking system. 111 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: Which has still been going on. 112 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, I mean, EU care so much 113 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: about Ukraine, but they still got to buy a Russian 114 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: oil and gas. It's been going down, but they're still 115 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: doing it. That there will be financial consequences for Russia 116 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: that hurt. A huge part of Russian GDP, a huge 117 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: part of the Russian economy has been going to funding 118 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: this war off theairs. 119 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: It is painful for them too. 120 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: I know that we have been led to believe that 121 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: Putin is like Stalin Part two, and that he wants 122 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: to run rough shot over all of Europe and he 123 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: doesn't care how many people die, and he's not a 124 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: rational actor and all this stuff. No, I think actually 125 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: he would rather just get what he wants out of 126 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: this and be able to stop spending so much money 127 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: and so many lives on this conflict. And he doesn't 128 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: want his country to be feeling economic, true economic pain, 129 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: the kind of the kind that Trump is laying out 130 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: for him. So this is important, This is a milestone. 131 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: This is moving in the right direction. Trump isn't saying 132 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: it's a done deal. No one's saying it's a done deal. 133 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: But all of the people that are currently reporting on 134 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: this who voted for Kamala, which tells you everything you 135 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: need to know about their judgment, are acting like. 136 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: Oh, you know, this is all going to be a 137 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: sellout or whatever. I thought Democrats didn't. 138 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: Like war, Well, apparently they like wars that other people fight, 139 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: including other Americans. But you know, Democrats actually are not 140 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: an anti war party. That's when you really think about 141 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: it and you go back, you look at the history. 142 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: You know, they just the thing for Democrats is they 143 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: want other people fighting wars that they can feel good 144 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: about themselves. And is it an the American best interest 145 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: to fight the war. That doesn't matter. Democrats only want 146 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: to fight wars that make them feel good about themselves 147 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: at cocktail parties. That's really what their standard is. And 148 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: whether it helps America or not, whether we're losing Americans 149 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: or not, that's a secondary consideration. So the fact that 150 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: we're getting to a point where even having a discussion 151 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: about a cease fire is or should be seen as 152 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: very encouraging. You know, we don't sell you remember my mantra, 153 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: you don't celebrate early. You never celebrate early there's no 154 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: celebration here but progress. 155 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: Okay. 156 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 1: We can be cold and calculating about this and still say, hey, okay, 157 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: this is moving in the right direction. And Trump is 158 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: saying that there's leverage to be used against Russia here too. 159 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: So for all the always Putin's poppet and everything else, 160 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: he's saying, Look, does anybody believe for one second that 161 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: if Putin is totally unreasonable and blows up these negotiations, 162 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: that Trump is going to hesitate to use the tools 163 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: at his disposal to turn up the heat on lad. 164 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: Of course he will. Of course he will for no 165 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: other reason. 166 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: Then you don't you don't make Trump, You don't try 167 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: to make Trump look silly on the world stage when 168 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: he's really dedicated to something. Putin or no, Putin, doesn't 169 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: matter who it is. But see, this is what the 170 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: Democrats fundamentally refuse to understand about Trump, which is who 171 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: he really is and what he is all about. They 172 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: just they still don't get I don't know if they 173 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: can understand Trump or they won't understand Trump, but the 174 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: notion of him as anyone's puppet, as I've been saying 175 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: to you, is laughable for anyone who has spent five 176 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: minutes with the guy. Really, I mean I've spent a 177 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: lot more time with them than that. But anybody who's 178 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: talked to Trump for about any serious subject taking orders 179 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: from Putin it's as stupid as people saying that that 180 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is Putin's puppet too. Yeah, the guy worth 181 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: three hundred billion dollars is going to get ordered around 182 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: by Vladimir Putin's so because of financial interest. It's so 183 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: dumb that you don't even want to waste brain cells 184 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: on it. So I really hope that this is a 185 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: breakthrough moment. I think it could be the beginning of 186 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: a major breakthrough in this. And here's the truth. I 187 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: want the killing to stop, and I don't want to 188 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: ever have to think about Ukraine again, really, you know, 189 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: and that doesn't make me a bad person. I want 190 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: the killing to stop. I want the Ukrainians and I 191 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: want the Russians who have been conscripted and are being 192 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: thrown to this meat grinder. I want them to go 193 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: home to their families. I want the them, you know, 194 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: eating chicken nuggets and watching sitcoms and thinking about their 195 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: few you know, this whole thing is a waste that's 196 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: going on. 197 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: I want it to stop. We all should want it 198 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: to stop. 199 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: And then we don't have to think about it anymore. 200 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: I don't want this to be our problem. This shouldn't 201 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: be our problem. We've got our own things to worry 202 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: about over here, America first, right, So this is all 203 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: in line with where we want this to go. And 204 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: I think that there's very good reasons for optimism. It's 205 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: not a done deal, but I think that there are 206 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: good reasons for optimism. Trump also gave an update on Canada. 207 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: Less serious than the Russia Ukraine war, obviously, but this 208 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: just happened. I want to play this for you. This 209 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: is from the Oval Office moments ago. Cut twenty five 210 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: hit it. 211 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: You know, the United States can't subsidize a country for 212 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: two hundred billion dollars a year. We don't need their cars, 213 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: we don't need their energy, we don't need their lumber, 214 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: we don't need anything that they that they get. We 215 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: do it because we want to be helpful, but it 216 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: comes to point when you just can't do that. You 217 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 3: have to run your own country. And to be honest 218 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: with you, Canada only works as a state. It doesn't 219 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 3: We don't need anything they have as a state. It 220 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: would be one of the great states anyway, This would 221 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: be the most incredible country visually. If you look at 222 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 3: a map, they drew an artificial line right through it 223 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: between Canada and the US, just a straight artificial line. 224 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: Somebody did it a long time ago, many many decades ago. 225 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: And makes no sense. Interesting. 226 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: Trump is really leaning into this Canada fifty first state thing. 227 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: I believe that it's negotiation and pressure from Trump, and 228 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: also he likes to poke at the Canadian leadership a 229 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: little bit, but on the teriff issue and on what 230 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: is financially meaningful in all of this, I think Trump 231 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: has a pretty straightforward, pretty straightforward approach. No more free 232 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: rides on the American the back of the American people, 233 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: No more subsidizing your domestic industry in Canada at the 234 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: expense of our consumers unless you want to have the 235 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: same thing done to. 236 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: You reciprocal tariffs. 237 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: And I'm still waiting for someone to explain me why 238 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: that's unfair or a bad idea. Right to me, it 239 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: strikes me that that should be both fair play and 240 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: smart play. And if something is fair play and smart play, 241 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you do it? 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The 271 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: President just spoke moments ago diving into the Russia Ukraine situation. 272 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: It's really hard to. 273 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: Read the Democrat press on this whole situation and not 274 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: feel like they are rooting for Trump to fail to 275 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: achieve a cease fire, even though that means a lot 276 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: of people are gonna die. 277 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: Am I missing something? Even though a lot of a 278 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: lot more Russians. 279 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: Than Ukrainians are gonna die if there isn't a ceasefire 280 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: that's durable and that gets to an end of this conflict. 281 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: I think that the New York Times is and others 282 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: are rooting for failure on this one. I honestly believe that, 283 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: and I think when you read their reportage on it, 284 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: that is what you come away with. But let's go 285 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: to another issue that Trump spoke on. The Canada stuff 286 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: is interesting. I don't really know exactly what Trump's going 287 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: for on that one. I think it's I think it's 288 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: posturing and negotiating. I get that, but he is really 289 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: he is really uh poking poking the wolverine, if you will, 290 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: or I'm trying to think of what would be a poking? 291 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: Do we think of moose? 292 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: I always think of Maine, not Canada, Like, what's the 293 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: what is the animal most associated with Canada? 294 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: As I say, poking the bear? Is it bears? We 295 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: got bears here? 296 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a lot of the same things that 297 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: Canada does. Pretty similar places here we have Trump, though, 298 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: weigh in on the trans issue in a way that 299 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: well only Trump, only Trump would play twenty six. 300 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: I saw it this morning with one of them is 301 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: pretty well known. One is arguing fighting like crazy over 302 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: men being able to play in women's sports. I said, yeah, 303 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: I thought that was tried. I thought that was about 304 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: a ninety five I think it's a ninety five percent issue. 305 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: But in a way I want him to keep doing 306 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: it because I don't think they can win a race 307 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: I and I tell the Republicans, I said, don't bring 308 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: that subject up because there's no election right now, but 309 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: about a week before the election, bring it up because 310 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 3: you can't lose and everything's transgender. This trends that you know. 311 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: It's they have bad politics, but one thing, they stick together. 312 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: I wish uh and the Republicans stick together mostly, but 313 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: we have a couple that are grand standards and they 314 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: always have grand standers in life. But the Democrats they 315 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: don't seem they have grand standers, but when it comes 316 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: to a vote, they do stick together. 317 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: So everything is transition trans that when it comes to Democrats. True, 318 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: they simultaneously push the issue everywhere and then pretend they 319 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: don't care about the issue anywhere when we say no. 320 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: That's the game that they play with trans issues, with 321 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: other things too, but specifically on this one, it's they 322 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: demand that we obey them, and when we say no, 323 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: they say, why are we even talking about this? Why 324 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: are you bringing this up? Okay, crazy, that's what they're doing. 325 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: I didn't get to this before I mentioned the top 326 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: of the show, the would be Michigan congressman who is 327 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: not going to run anymore because he's going to focus 328 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: on running for president in twenty two twenty eight is 329 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: drum roll the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, Pete 330 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: Bluter Judge, Pete Booter Judge lining up to be the 331 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: leader of the Democrat Party for twenty twenty eight. I 332 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: will just tell you, I think that this is great 333 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: for the Democrats. Big fan of this idea. Hope that 334 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: they put tons of money behind Pete, tons of time, 335 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, trying to build. 336 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: Him up in the media. 337 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to see a Buddha Judge vance showdown. 338 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: I think that would be excellent. 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Welcome back into clay Enbook. Carol Markowitz joins 369 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: us now. She is the host of the Carol Markowitz 370 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: Show on the Clay Unbuck podcast now work, which we 371 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: hope you will all subscribe to and check out also 372 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: normally with Mary Catherine ham two shows. 373 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: They're doing fantastically, Carol, great to have you. 374 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 5: On, Hi Buck, thanks so much for having me. 375 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the first off, did you see 376 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: the loons running into Trump Tower? And they've been they've 377 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: been rounded up in flex, scuffed and everything else. But 378 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: at a lot of Jews for Palestine signs in there's 379 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: what's this all about? 380 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you that the Jewish voices for peace 381 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 5: are neither Jews nor for piece. So don't don't take 382 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 5: their word for it. A lot of them just use 383 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 5: the label to say that, oh we we're not like 384 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 5: the other Jews who actually support the existence of Israel. 385 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 5: And they might have, like some relative in the distant past, 386 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 5: that it was Jewish and so they claim that, or 387 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 5: sometimes they don't even have that. But they're also not 388 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 5: for peace because they there was peace on October sixth. 389 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 5: They weren't protesting on October seventh when Hamas attacked Israel. 390 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 5: They're only around to basically cause harm to Israel and 391 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 5: to America. You know, it kind of bothers me that 392 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 5: it's gotten to where the protesters are seen as just 393 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 5: about Israel. They're really not. They're about Western civilization, They're 394 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 5: about the United States. If you remember back to last 395 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 5: year where the frat boys became the heroes of the day, 396 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 5: they weren't protecting the Israeli flag. They were protecting the 397 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 5: American flag that the protesters were trying to destroy. So, 398 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 5: you know, I get that Israel is a hot issue, 399 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 5: and obviously a lot of things com from the Middle East, 400 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 5: but really we're protecting Western civilization and these lunatics want 401 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 5: to bring it down. 402 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 1: Now, what do you think about the left ralling around this? 403 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: Mahmoud Khalil guy, I mean Secretary Rubio, We played him 404 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: earlier in the show, talking about how it's pretty straightforward. 405 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: And by the way, I didn't know that the I 406 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: didn't know that the Secretary of State, or rather that 407 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: the federal government had the authority already. You just say, 408 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: you know, even if you're on a green card, right 409 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: visa that I would have guessed, Yeah, you can probably 410 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: just be told go home. 411 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: You're here on a visa. 412 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: But even with a green card, it's probationary status until 413 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: you actually get citizenship, so you can still be told 414 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: like audios, yeah. 415 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 5: That's exactly it. And if you go to any other 416 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 5: country and you try to foment dissent and start protests, 417 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 5: you're going to face the same challenges, especially if you're 418 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 5: if you're a part of your cause is to bring 419 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 5: down the country that you would like to be a 420 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 5: part of. A lot of it is when you come 421 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 5: to the US, you get permissioned by the US government, 422 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 5: You're not allowed to do certain things, and you have 423 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 5: to behave yourself. If you get, you know, in trouble 424 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 5: with the law in a way that an American citizen 425 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 5: might even have a small misdemeanor, you could be kicked 426 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 5: out for that, and a lot of things that you 427 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 5: need to kind of live up to when you're trying 428 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 5: to become a citizen of America. And there are some challenges, 429 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 5: and there are definitely some roadblocks that are meant to 430 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 5: be there so that we get kind of the best people. 431 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 5: And what's happened in the last decade is it was 432 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 5: completely forgotten about how the whole process works. There used 433 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 5: to be a process in place. Of course, during the 434 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 5: Biden administration, people just came in. They could do whatever 435 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 5: they want, They didn't have to follow any of the 436 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 5: rules or the laws. I think what we're seeing now 437 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 5: is an end to that kind of attitude that no, 438 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 5: this is not going to happen on Donald Trump's watch. 439 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 5: He got elected under the idea of getting rid of 440 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 5: a lot of the policies that have really slowed our 441 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 5: country down, and this is one of those that we 442 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 5: can't have people coming from around the world to tell 443 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 5: us that they don't want us to exist, that they 444 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 5: that they want to bring down our country and us 445 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 5: to smile and accept it. That's just not the way 446 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 5: it's supposed to go. And I'm glad that the Donald 447 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 5: Trump administration is standing up for that concept. 448 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: Why are they rally I mean, obviously, I know Mafu 449 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: Khalil's the guy that they've chosen to make an example of, 450 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: I think so. But for the Democrats right now, given 451 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: their party's fortunes to go to the mat over a 452 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: guy who has openly said that he wants to bring 453 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: about the end of Western civilization, who has been a 454 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: part of I always feel that it's frustrating to call 455 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: them protests because they were really kind of intimidation gatherings 456 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: at Columbia University, right, I mean, it goes when you're 457 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: breaking laws as part of the movement. It's just like 458 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: with BLM did right, there were some protests, but there 459 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: were people being punched in the face and buildings being 460 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: burned down too. 461 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: He was a part of that. 462 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: Don't democrats realize, like the center of the country that 463 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: they need to try to win back or fool into 464 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: voting for them, isn't going to. 465 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: Look favorably on this. Why Mahmoud Khalil, why now? 466 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: Right? 467 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 5: It's so odd because they seem so out of touch 468 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 5: with the country. They're just kind of grappling around for 469 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 5: anything to oppose the Trump administration. I actually see it 470 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 5: really similarly like what happened today at Trump Tower, very 471 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 5: similar to what's going on around the country with the 472 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 5: Tesla dealership. These people are we're feeding Testa dealerships. You know, 473 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 5: one was firebombed, these violent attacks on Testa dealerships. That 474 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 5: because Elon Musk dares work in the Trump administration, he 475 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 5: dares have a different opinion than they do, and it's 476 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 5: considered sort of acceptable. Like I think again, we've gotten 477 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 5: to a place where these kinds of riotous behavior is allowed, 478 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 5: or at least not prosecuted to the full six kund 479 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 5: of the law, and I think the change is here, 480 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 5: and I hope that they do punish these people. I 481 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 5: hope that they, you know, I do arrest them and 482 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 5: anybody who caused any problems in Tesla dealerships or the 483 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 5: Trump Tower is actually held accountable. What do democrats want. 484 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 5: I think that they want to continue the system that 485 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 5: we've had for the last few years. I think they 486 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 5: want their friends to not be held accountable. I want 487 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 5: that they want their friends to be able to do 488 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 5: whatever they want and for us all to say, well, 489 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 5: we can't do anything about it. I think that they're 490 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 5: going to run and the wall of the Trump administration. 491 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: With that, we're speaking to Carol Markowitz. Carol Markowitz podcast 492 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: and Normally podcast with Carol and Mary Catherine Ham are 493 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: part of the Clan Block network. They're growing numbers every month. 494 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: They're doing great. You should check them out. Especially we 495 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: have a lot of moms in this audience. We want 496 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: everyone to listen, but a lot of moms this audience. 497 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: You will love both Carol's show and the show she 498 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: does with Mary Catherine Ham, So go subscribe to that today. 499 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: And Carol, you mentioned the Elon thing. I know, I 500 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: think it's hard for us to get in the mindset 501 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: of the other side sometimes because I truly believe that 502 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: some of the activists left are like there's a part 503 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: of them, or a lot of them are deranged. I mean, 504 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: they're separate from reality. And the ones who truly believe 505 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: that climate change is an existential threat. On the one hand, 506 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: they say this all the time, and Barack Obama said 507 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: that when he was president. This is the term existential 508 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: threats what they're supposed to say. 509 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: And yet they hate Elon and they don't see the 510 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: problem with that. And I just think it's interesting. 511 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: Either they don't believe it's an existential threat and that's 512 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: just all hot air, or they just care more about 513 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: hating Trump and his people than saving the planet by 514 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: their own. 515 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 5: Logic, right, Well, I always said that about them, which is, 516 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 5: you know, when you have Leonardo DiCaprio alone on a yacht, 517 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 5: does he really care about climate change? When you have 518 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 5: Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and all these people who 519 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 5: say that they care about climate change flying around in 520 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 5: their private plane, do they really care about climate change? 521 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 5: If I was concerned about climate change, I'd be living 522 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 5: very differently than their living. I wouldn't be buying like 523 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 5: Barack Obama did a house right on the ocean. I 524 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,239 Speaker 5: think I would have some concerns about that. So I 525 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 5: don't think that they believe any of that. I think 526 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 5: that they want to reorientate our economy so that and 527 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 5: they're using climate change as the excuse to do that. 528 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 5: But I don't believe that they really think that climate 529 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 5: is going to cause the kinds of problems that they 530 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 5: predict for the rest of us. Obviously, al Gore had 531 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 5: some predictions, you know, back in the early two thousands. 532 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 5: None of them came true, and so no, they used 533 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 5: climate change as the hammer to beat the rest to 534 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 5: us live. 535 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just strikes me that the whole thing is 536 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: so it's so disingenuous and has been all and the 537 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: leaders of that movement, I mean, Al Gore, the whole 538 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: thing has just been Greta Thunberg people. I will never 539 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: forget CNN breathlessly reporting on every word about a sixteen 540 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: year old girl talking about how we have to change 541 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: trillions of dollars of economic output because her future has 542 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: been stolen from him. Right. 543 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 5: I remember when Greta Thumburg, My kids had come home 544 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 5: from school in Brooklyn and I say, what did you 545 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 5: learn today, and they'd say, we learned about Greta Thumberg 546 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 5: every day for like months and months and months. She 547 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 5: was the entire science curriculum. So it is really part 548 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 5: of being part of the team. Is just supposed to 549 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 5: say the right word, just supposed to worship the right people. 550 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 5: And the left has really got to realize that people 551 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 5: are onto them and they don't like their team anymore, 552 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 5: that the things that they say come across as crazy 553 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 5: to the rest of the country. And I don't know 554 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 5: if they reverse themselves time soon or they just keep 555 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 5: going and hope for the best. 556 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: Carol, one more for you here. I'm just have you 557 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: heard the latest from Trump on Canada? 558 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 5: Yeah? Fuck, I don't want Canada to be our fifty 559 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 5: first date. I don't like Canada. 560 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: So help me out because I look with the tariff 561 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: stuff and with rush of U Crane, I see so 562 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: many things where or I I know what Trump's doing. 563 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: Trump's doing the Trump thing. I think on Canada he's 564 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: doing a version. 565 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: Of the Trump thing. But with the fifty first state thing, 566 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: is he just straight trolling them? What do you make 567 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: of this? Because you're very reasonable about all things Trump. 568 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: You know, you don't get all hysterical. But I sit here, 569 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, he's really he's really staying on this. I'm 570 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: a little surprised, right. 571 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 5: You know, I really don't know because I thought he 572 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 5: was trolling and then it doesn't seem like he's trolling anymore. 573 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 5: Back in December, I tweeted or whatever it's called on 574 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 5: XP I posted, it's important to stand up to Donald 575 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 5: Trump and say absolutely no, we don't want Canada be 576 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 5: our fifty first date. And I was joking, and all 577 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 5: the responses were, Trump is joking. You got to stop 578 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,239 Speaker 5: taking him so seriously. But you know, now we're in 579 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 5: March and he's still saying it. So I don't know. 580 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 5: I mean, I know they have good mapel syrup, but 581 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 5: I just I don't want to end sentences a and 582 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 5: I don't want to apologize for everything. And I don't 583 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 5: want Canadians to be American. That's it. Leave Canadians as 584 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 5: they are. 585 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel the same way about it. 586 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: Greenland, I'm a little greedier about because not a lot 587 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: of people, not enough votes to mess with us. You know, 588 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: there's like fifty thousand people there and a lot of 589 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: land and a lot of resources and strategic value. 590 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: You know, I think. 591 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: Shoven Greenland around a little bit to get them to 592 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: see reality. That one I'm cool with. But Canada, this 593 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: place just elected Justin Trudeau. I mean, I think Justin 594 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: Trudeau is arguably the worst leader of any democratic country 595 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: in the entire I mean, maybe the world, I don't know, 596 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: certainly the entire Western world. 597 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm very much not a fan. And it definitely 598 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 5: concerns me that this this joke has gone on a 599 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 5: little too long. Yeah, I don't mind trolling Canada if 600 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 5: that's what we're doing here. But if if there's really 601 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 5: any attempt to have them join us, I say, no, 602 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 5: think you. 603 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: Eight, Yeah, I don't think there will be. So I 604 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: do think. I just think Trump really enjoys this. 605 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: I think he really he's just like having a great 606 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: time just poking at them with this. 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That's tee 627 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: the number two t dot org want. 628 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 4: To begin to know when you're on the go, The 629 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 4: Team forty seven podcasts shrap highlights from the week Sundays 630 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 4: at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. 631 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 4: Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get 632 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 4: your podcasts. 633 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,239 Speaker 1: Close and upshot Today on Clay and Buck, I'm going 634 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: to remind you that just going to be me tomorrow, 635 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: play on vacation for the week. Let's be sure of 636 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,239 Speaker 1: having a great time with the family. He checks in, 637 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: tells me to make sure he says that I say 638 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: hi to all of you. 639 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: On his behalf. He's having a great time though out in. 640 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm just realizing is Steamboat Springs is Colorado, right right right? 641 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 5: I knew that. 642 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: I knew that. 643 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: You know, I've been to Colorado once, but I knew that. So, yeah, 644 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: he's having a great time out there. If you see him, 645 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: definitely go up and argue with him about sports. 646 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: He loves that. 647 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, so we'll get to we have some great 648 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: guests lined up for you tomorrow. The White House Deputy 649 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: Press Secretary. You know, we've known Caroline Levitt here on 650 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: the show. She's been a friend of the show for years. 651 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: She's the press secretary. We're gonna have her deputy on 652 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: talk to us about some of the executive orders that 653 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: are gonna be coming down next week, some big stuff happening, 654 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: and also what's happened this week, and we're looking to 655 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: get some other guests lined up for you as well. 656 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: And this week and I'm gonna go. I'm gonna be 657 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: training up in North Carolina doing some tactical training. 658 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: Well I'll tell you more about it when I come 659 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: back from it, but I'm really looking forward to it. 660 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: And we have some wonderful talkback, some emails, good stuff 661 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: like that. Low and in we have eet speaking of 662 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: Colorado out of Denver listener on Freedom ninety three seven? 663 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: What have you got for us? Play it? 664 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 3: But beaver is the animal that is most associated with Canada, 665 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 3: so they would be poking to beaver if you're messing 666 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 3: with Canada. 667 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: Whoa ah. Interesting. 668 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: So yes, I did not know that beaver was the 669 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: national animal of Canada. I will say that is interesting 670 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: data point that had eluded me. But it makes sense. 671 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: The beaver used to be an industry. Unto himself, the 672 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: unassuming little, the rotund rodent of the beaver was a 673 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: huge industry because of the obsession, if memory serves from 674 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,959 Speaker 1: my history, with using their pelts. 675 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: Particularly for hats. Am I right on this one team. 676 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: I think that's the fur trade was a big deal 677 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: in Canada and particularly in the again the early days 678 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: when it was a French French colony first, the fur trade, 679 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: the French trappers, all that stuff, and there were fights, 680 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes pretty intense ones over with the with 681 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: the native population, the Indians, over who had trapping rights, 682 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: et cetera. 683 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: So, yeah, beavers were a big deal. The fur trade. 684 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: It is Actually that was the one scene in the 685 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: movie The Revenant that I think was really well done 686 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: and is historically is based on a on a true 687 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: incident historically, was when the fur trappers. It's the Leonardo 688 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 1: DiCaprio movie. I'm sure you've seen it. There's a very 689 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: intense sequence with a bear. But the opening sequence of 690 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 1: the movie is really well done and pretty haunting, and 691 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: it's about a local Indian tribe. I forget which one. 692 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of them that just decided, 693 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, we don't like these these the the euro 694 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: European descent fur trapper guys. So we're just gonna go 695 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: in there and take them out. And it actually happened. 696 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: This was a real thing in the nineteenth century. So 697 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: if a team, if you remember to do a quick 698 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,479 Speaker 1: I can't do it because sometimes when clays you're right, 699 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: he'll be saying something and I can do the real 700 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: time check. But if I do that, you'll hear me 701 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: typing and thinking out loud. Tell me when that was 702 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: the incident, that is in the beginning of the Revenant 703 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: and what the tribe was. But that was a real 704 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: thing because the fur trade was a big deal because 705 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: we didn't have all these different synthetic fibers and everything else, 706 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: and so that was important. So we learned that the 707 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: beaver is the national animal. Another Denver talk Pack ninety 708 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: three seven getting a lot of listeners. Thank you listener, 709 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: Jason d d hit it. 710 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 6: Democrats have the dumbest constituents and they know this. That's 711 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 6: why they're going to continue with the shutdown. And then 712 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 6: they're gonna say that it's some Republicans fault since they 713 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 6: own all branches of government, they know they have the 714 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 6: dumbest constituents and they do have the dumbest constituents. And 715 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 6: I guarantee you after the shutdown, all the morons on 716 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 6: MSNBC are gonna still say it's for Republicans fault. 717 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: I think our listener Jason thinks the Democrats have the 718 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: dumbest constituent. 719 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,479 Speaker 2: I think he's made that clear. 720 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: Yes, they will try to claim that, Jason, I don't 721 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: know if they will be successful though in terms of 722 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: overall public opinion. By the way, the opening scene of 723 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: the Revenant, the attacking Native American tribe is the Arikara. 724 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, see that that was one of the more. 725 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: Obscure ones, not like the Sue, the Iroquois, the Cherokee, 726 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: the ones that we all know, you know, the Pawnee, etc. 727 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: The Arikara. There you go, good scene. Back with you tomorrow, 728 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: talk to you then,