WEBVTT - Work in Progress: Heather McMahan

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back Whipsmarties for an episode I am so excited about.

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<v Speaker 1>We are joined by one of my favorite comedians today,

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<v Speaker 1>Heather McMahon is on the podcast here to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>her latest comedy tour, her incredible podcast, and how she

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<v Speaker 1>manages to literally do it all. You can stream her

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<v Speaker 1>comedy special Breadwinner now on Hulu, in which she very

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<v Speaker 1>humorously and hilariously explores the pressures of being her family's

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<v Speaker 1>financial support, the perils of being a golf widow, wedding

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<v Speaker 1>planning on an overblown budget, in law dynamics, and more.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can get a dose of her every week

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<v Speaker 1>on her podcast Absolutely Not, she says absolutely not to

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately everything. She's making a safe space for us all

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<v Speaker 1>to tell all and bitch about all the rest. There

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<v Speaker 1>are no topics off limits on her show. She breaks

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<v Speaker 1>down every day struggles of doing the most and the

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<v Speaker 1>least at the same damn time. It is so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It definitely brings me joy in a crazy, crazy year.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's dive in and hear from Heather. Okay, before

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<v Speaker 1>we jump into this insanity that we live in, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to rewind with you, because I like to know

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<v Speaker 1>who people were as kids. And this is why I

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<v Speaker 1>know you. I mean I met you as a I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably a bumbling fan. Like when we met, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I got aye. But we all know you from your

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<v Speaker 1>work and your jokes and your personality and the tours

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<v Speaker 1>and the space rushels and the things. If we went

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<v Speaker 1>back to before your life was this, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>got to hang out with yourself at like eight or

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<v Speaker 1>nine years old, would you see this version of you

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<v Speaker 1>in her? Or was it totally unpredictable.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I would be able to look myself in the

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<v Speaker 2>eyes and be like, well, you did exactly what you

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<v Speaker 2>said you were going to do. I was a very

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<v Speaker 2>determined kid. I knew exactly what I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to be in theater. I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in comedy. Actually is so interesting. I found

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<v Speaker 2>a book. My mom and I were cleaning out some

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<v Speaker 2>closets at her house, literally found a book last week.

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<v Speaker 3>It was called Growing Up.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a book that like everybody in our

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<v Speaker 2>class in fourth grade wrote a little thing of like

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<v Speaker 2>what they want to be when they get older. Mine,

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<v Speaker 2>I shit you not, I'll pull it up. Mine a picture, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a picture of the whole thing. Mine was

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<v Speaker 2>me on stage getting a Grammy because I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be a singer. I did a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of musical theater as a kid. Lost the voice a

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<v Speaker 2>while ago. Oh, son, and so I'm on stage. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a little drawing of me getting my Grammy. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mind me as I'm scrolling for it. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>let me just show you this.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is me. I don't e ses at the

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<v Speaker 3>Grammys right old and God.

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<v Speaker 2>My whole thing it says when I grow up, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to I want to be a star and have

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<v Speaker 2>many opportunities to accomplish this dream. I'd love to have

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<v Speaker 2>my own record label and my own production company as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I go on to basically say, if you can believe

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<v Speaker 2>it and dream it, you can do it. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I say I'd love to have a show like Rosie O'donnald's.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just such a great person with a lot of talent.

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<v Speaker 2>And I literally like go on to say, like I,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I want to do. I knew I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be an entertainer from a little kid,

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<v Speaker 2>and my mom and I found this and we were

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<v Speaker 2>cracking up. I'm like, I was writing this shit down

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<v Speaker 2>in the fourth grade. I knew what I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that became a harder thing later and

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<v Speaker 2>in life because when I got to college, I was

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<v Speaker 2>so envious of my friends who were like undeclared, who

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know what they want wanted to do, because that

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<v Speaker 2>felt more freeing to me. I was like, oh, you're

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<v Speaker 2>still trying to figure out exactly what you want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what I want to do, but it still

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<v Speaker 2>seems so far away.

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<v Speaker 1>So when by the time you got to college, was

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<v Speaker 1>it a feeling of pressure you were putting on yourself

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<v Speaker 1>or was it that you were on the precipice of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, quote unquote adulthood and still didn't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to get your foot in the door.

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<v Speaker 3>A mixture of both. I think when you are because

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<v Speaker 3>I since.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a little kid, I always said I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be on stage, I'm going to be doing something

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<v Speaker 2>in the arts. So I think to go into college

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<v Speaker 2>and know exactly what I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I went to the University Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of my girlfriends wanted to stay locally or

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<v Speaker 2>you know. They I was like, oh no, once I

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<v Speaker 2>get out of here, I'm moving to New York, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing stand up, I'm doing the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So for me, it was like, I, while I.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoyed my college experience so much, I was ready to

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<v Speaker 2>like get to the next thing, and then I got

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<v Speaker 2>out and I was like, now this is where the

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<v Speaker 2>fun starts. But it was also terrifying because I knew

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<v Speaker 2>how long, you know. I knew it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>take a while to get the ball rolling. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was always envious of the folks who were like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what I want to do. I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>to have that freedom, to be able to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually felt that that was more freeing than knowing

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what I wanted to do, because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>the pressure is on and the clock is ticking, it's

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<v Speaker 2>we got to go. And now, looking back, I would

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<v Speaker 2>be like, that's insane. I would tell people you can

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<v Speaker 2>reinvent yourself a billion times through your life, right of course,

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, no, I knew I was a very driven kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it turned out I need an.

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<v Speaker 1>Actual copy of that photo I want to make, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so obviously Rosie O'Donnell is one answer to this question.

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<v Speaker 1>But who else from the comedy world inspired you when

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<v Speaker 1>you were growing up.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge Lucille Ball fan because I'm very big in a

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<v Speaker 2>physical comedy, so watching her that was like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>she was the idol.

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<v Speaker 3>But for the reason I got understand up was Joan Rivers.

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<v Speaker 2>Joan was just saying things back in the day that

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<v Speaker 2>women did not have. You know, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say the balls to say I didn't have, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the the tits to say, like, she just knew what

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<v Speaker 2>she was doing. And when I was starting out and

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<v Speaker 2>stand up in New York, I would follow her all

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<v Speaker 2>the time and go see your shows. And I got

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<v Speaker 2>to meet her outside of a show one night and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, miss Rivers, I just want you to

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<v Speaker 2>know I'm such a fan. You're the reason why I

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<v Speaker 2>got into comedy. And she was like, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>good feeling about you. You're gonna You're gonna make it.

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<v Speaker 2>Years later, I moved to La I'm sitting at a

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<v Speaker 2>bar one night at Doms, you know, the sister restaurant

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<v Speaker 2>to Little Doms, but it was work clothes and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in there at the bars and I hear her

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<v Speaker 2>walk in. I was like, I know that voice. So

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<v Speaker 2>I go over to her table and I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>miss Rivers, I just want you to know I took

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<v Speaker 2>your advice. I moved to LA because she told me

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<v Speaker 2>to move to Lay. She's like, you have a very

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<v Speaker 2>commercial look. You need to be doing television. You need

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<v Speaker 2>to move.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went to LA and I said, I took

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<v Speaker 3>your advice. Like, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, I am doing the thing. She's like, I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a really good feeling about you. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make it. And I swear to god, I got in

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<v Speaker 2>my car.

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<v Speaker 3>I called my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>I was sitting in the valet at this restaurant. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Joan, gave me your blessing. She died like

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<v Speaker 2>nine months later, no, h huh, huh huh wow. And

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<v Speaker 2>I got to meet her daughter, Melissa about a year ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and I told Melissa, I was like, you don't understand,

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<v Speaker 2>like your mom meant everything to me and was such

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<v Speaker 2>a guiding light in the stand up world for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just so grateful to her.

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<v Speaker 1>That was so special. Yeah, I mean an icon.

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<v Speaker 2>Truly, Who did you follow growing up? Because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been doing this forever though.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean kind of. I you know, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be a doctor. I thought I was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a heart surgeon. That was my plan. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>had an arts requirement because I went to this great,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean amazing school in Pasadena, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do this. You know, they gave

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<v Speaker 1>us these two years of arts requirements. In every semester

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<v Speaker 1>you had to do something different, and I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to game the system by putting off the

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<v Speaker 1>theater requirement until the same semester I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>play volleyball. And they were like, you did this to yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you are at school to learn how to be

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<v Speaker 1>a functioning adult, and you chose to delay this. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you've done it last semester, you could have done

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<v Speaker 1>a play and done a sport, but now you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to miss your sport to do this. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what such a lesson about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>personal accountability? Really early and then I did this play

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, wait, I love this. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>all by the way, no shade. I love musical theater,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm also just like not a musical theater kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, theater isn't the sound of music.

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<v Speaker 1>You can, like, you can do these really topical, intense

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<v Speaker 1>or comedic things where you don't have to sing on

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<v Speaker 1>stage what And it changed my whole life. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>but my favorite subject has always been English and this

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<v Speaker 1>is basically just a book that's alive. Yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it really shifted the whole thing for me. And then

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<v Speaker 1>when I told my parents that I wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to medical school, I wanted to go get a

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<v Speaker 1>BFA in theater. You can imagine how well that went over.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure assholes were clenched. It's like at that moment

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, Mom, Dad, I'm a thespian and the parents

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<v Speaker 2>are like just gravely disappointed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and my dad, ironically enough, you know, for his

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<v Speaker 1>whole career, was a really wonderful photographer, which is also

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<v Speaker 1>why I think I ride so hard for the crew,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, I'd come from a crew family, even

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<v Speaker 1>though my dad's like crew job was deeply cool. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the people he photographed for the longest run

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<v Speaker 1>over his forty plus years career was John Rivers. Wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he must have like they were tighter her yeah, like John,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she'd have something to do in New York

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, absolutely not. You got to fly Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Bush out here from LA. I'm not shooting with anybody here.

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<v Speaker 1>She she had a point where she was like, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>knows how to light me, bring my guy, and like

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<v Speaker 1>it would. They had a very sweet friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait if he still has any prints, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>ask them because.

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<v Speaker 1>I already wrote down a note.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, I'm redoing a office in my house

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<v Speaker 2>right now, and that's what I need.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was stuck Getty Images.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I need a blown up rent like

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<v Speaker 2>an iconic photo of Joan in this Yes, my office.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, what a cool gig.

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<v Speaker 1>So cool, so so cool. And yeah. I remember years

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<v Speaker 1>later when I was working on TV, my parents finally

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<v Speaker 1>were like, so crazy that you're doing this. When you

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<v Speaker 1>first told us you were going to go to theater school,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I know, you freaked out and my

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<v Speaker 1>dad was like, no, you don't understand. Like the level

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<v Speaker 1>of meltdown was so intense. He goes, and your mom

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<v Speaker 1>looked at me and goes, this is your fault. You

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<v Speaker 1>turned your fucking hobby into your career and now shaving.

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<v Speaker 3>She can do it too. My dad used to have

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<v Speaker 3>the same argument with my mom.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, you always want to be Barbarer streis saying,

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<v Speaker 2>and it didn't work out. So I pushed it on

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<v Speaker 2>Heather and my dad would write letters to my sorority house.

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<v Speaker 2>I do all miss like the top ten reasons why

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<v Speaker 2>he thinks I should pivot and go into the Air Force.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was like number one got number two, you

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<v Speaker 2>come from a long line of eighty eight ors number

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<v Speaker 2>three like you look great at the uniform. And I realize, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a parent, but I realized now, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I watch my parents, I'm like, oh, parents just parented

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<v Speaker 2>out of fear.

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<v Speaker 3>Like they were just constantly trying, like, you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>just want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure that you don't fuck it up because we

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<v Speaker 2>at some point probably fucked our shit up. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was always like, Dad, don't worry about me. Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to figure it out. And it's been

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<v Speaker 2>very bittersweet to have the success that I've had because

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<v Speaker 2>my dad hasn't been here to see it. I lost

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<v Speaker 2>my answer about ten years ago and everything started to

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<v Speaker 2>click after it passed and I had wonderful relationship with

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<v Speaker 2>my dad, even though he was always like please get

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<v Speaker 2>in Dell Estate, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't go into the show. So it's been like it's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have all these iconic moments and like on tour,

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<v Speaker 2>like playing Radio City, and I'm like, damn it, I

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<v Speaker 2>wish the one person who's here to see it isn't here.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have to just know that he's always me.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always a probably my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, yeah that I can. I can just feel

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<v Speaker 1>that bittersweet thing because it is the it's the best,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh how cool it would be for him to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I imagine if my dad was alive, he would

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<v Speaker 2>be running security. He'd be selling merch like he would

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<v Speaker 2>be doing all about oh yeah, eating it up, taking

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<v Speaker 2>photos of ladies outside the theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Your dad running the merch table is like all that

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<v Speaker 1>feels right to me. And my bones. I want my

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<v Speaker 1>bones too, right in like in the next universe over

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that it's happening. Yeah, oh my goodness. Well

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<v Speaker 1>is that part of why you feel because I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about how you feel like a late bloomer

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<v Speaker 1>in your career because things really blew up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after you turned thirty. Do you think that the the

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of time feels particular for you too because

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<v Speaker 1>of that loss? Because I think when you go through

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<v Speaker 1>something like you know, losing a parent who you're so

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<v Speaker 1>close to, or you know, someone who is your person,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like there is a before and an after. It's

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<v Speaker 1>such a marker of time. And because he hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>here to see some of this stuff, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that influence is that feeling?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean my twenties were the years where

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<v Speaker 2>I was in New York and la hustling, grinding, doing

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<v Speaker 2>the thing one woman shows, do an improv, doing stand up,

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<v Speaker 2>all that, and then you know, I lost my dad

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<v Speaker 2>caught like two years before I was thirty. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I get into my thirties and then they listen, my

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<v Speaker 2>point of view in my perspective just totally changed. My

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<v Speaker 2>comedy was richer because I had, you know, comedy and tragedy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd gone through something so horrifically tragic to then just

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<v Speaker 2>have a different point of view in perspective and.

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<v Speaker 3>Just in life richer way.

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<v Speaker 2>And I say, now like I have felt the worst

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<v Speaker 2>feeling you can ever feel, So now when things are good,

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<v Speaker 2>they feel even bigger and better. I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>an adulum of joy and sadness swings so wildly one

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<v Speaker 2>way or the other, and so I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate shit a lot more. Yes, you know, I always say,

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<v Speaker 2>like other people who've been through something traumatic like that,

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<v Speaker 2>like losing a loved one far too young.

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<v Speaker 3>We always find each other. We just all have a

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<v Speaker 3>different perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>And some days can be a little frustrating being around

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<v Speaker 2>other folks who haven't experienced that. And that's not to

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<v Speaker 2>their fault, like good for everybody still as their their

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<v Speaker 2>core family around, but there are moments where I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>just if you've been through it, you get it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a different communication with other people, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>And now a word from our sponsors who make this

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<v Speaker 1>show possible. I have not lost my parents, for which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very grateful, but me and my whole community lost

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<v Speaker 1>someone that was so important to us. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>just it rocked us all so intensely, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>the thing the biggest shift that it did for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wonder if you feel this. I always used

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<v Speaker 1>to repeat that cliche, and like cliches are so fucking annoying,

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<v Speaker 1>But they're cliches because they're so true, right, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>why everyone says them. Everyone always is like, ah, life's

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<v Speaker 1>too short. Life's too short to not try the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>Life's too short to not be in lovela la. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I went through that sort of grief, what I

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<v Speaker 1>realized is life is too short, but life is also

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<v Speaker 1>way too fucking long, because when you have to live

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<v Speaker 1>without someone, I think you understand how blessed you are

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<v Speaker 1>to be alive, but also how long life is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be if you're lucky. And it really there was

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<v Speaker 1>something about it that, rather than kind of rolling my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes anytime somebody was, you know, going through their personal

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<v Speaker 1>version of life is too short, like, it almost gave

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<v Speaker 1>me a freedom back because there have been times since

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<v Speaker 1>then that I have looked around and gone, life may

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<v Speaker 1>be too short, but it's I'm still on this earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is way too fucking long to be this unhappy,

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<v Speaker 1>because if I died tomorrow, I wouldn't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in this shitty job with this person who hits women,

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<v Speaker 1>or stuck in this shitty relationship you know where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>walking on eggshells in my own house like it don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't explain it. It gave me this tenacity to

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<v Speaker 1>like try my hardest and get to the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the road. But if that road was a dead end,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm turning around because I'm reclaiming my time.

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<v Speaker 2>I fully hear this, and I think, especially as women we.

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<v Speaker 3>In our age group too, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to get so focused on doing the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>and checking all these things off a list. And I

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<v Speaker 2>have so many girlfriends who are in their early forties

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<v Speaker 2>late thirties right now, who are pivoting in a wild direction,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, do it. Who gives a shit? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you got the degree in XYZ. You're miserable.

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<v Speaker 3>Life is to go.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm like, you know, I talk about being

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<v Speaker 2>a late bloomer in my career, but I'm like, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>if tomorrow I had to do real estate, I would

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<v Speaker 2>do real estate and I would like figure it out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or whatever it is. It's life is too

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<v Speaker 2>short and too long to be miserable. Yes, one thing

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<v Speaker 2>with grief too. And you'll notice this.

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<v Speaker 3>People say, oh, you know, it gets easier to time.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think you get so much harder with time,

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<v Speaker 2>because now I sit back in my grief, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>now I haven't heard my dad's.

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<v Speaker 3>Voice in ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the further you get away from it, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a little bit more numb to it. But then

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh god, that just grips me in a

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<v Speaker 2>different way. It's like a it sits heavier on my

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<v Speaker 2>chest because I realize how far away I'm from those

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<v Speaker 2>those memories and experiences with my dad.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a woman one day.

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<v Speaker 2>She meant well, but she dm me and I put

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<v Speaker 2>something up for my dad's birthday and she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish you would put, like, you know, more photos

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<v Speaker 2>up of your dad. And I just responded to her.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, hey, girl, I don't have any more photos

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<v Speaker 2>of my dad, Like these are all the memories I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Those memories are done, like I only have so many

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<v Speaker 2>photos and then I've shown you them all and then

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<v Speaker 2>they're done. And she was like, oh shit, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even think about that. I'm like, yes, like like those memories,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not making new memories, sweetheart. What do you want

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<v Speaker 2>that's on spring break that.

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<v Speaker 3>Hasn't happened in nine years?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so also too.

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<v Speaker 2>Dealing with that. Have to just know that people will

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<v Speaker 2>say the most ignorant shit. A lot of folks reach

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<v Speaker 2>out to me, they're like, hey, I just lost a

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<v Speaker 2>loved one. You know what do I how do I

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<v Speaker 2>navigate it? And I say, give yourself grace, give other

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<v Speaker 2>people grace, because they're going to say stupid shit to

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<v Speaker 2>you because they're just ignorant. They haven't been through it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if anybody says at any point at the funeral,

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<v Speaker 2>years down the road or whatever, they're in a better

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<v Speaker 2>place for everything happens for a reason, no, tell them

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<v Speaker 2>to go themselves and like, and this is done. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you never speak to that person again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like you have to. I can't. I can't deal

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<v Speaker 3>with this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we just no, thank you. Some things are just

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<v Speaker 1>a tragedy and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's okay, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you said something about how you know you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like grief has sort of expanded your capacity for

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<v Speaker 1>joy and it I will never forget in my in

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<v Speaker 1>my twenties, it was a book I read in college

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<v Speaker 1>that's like, I mean ancient. I think for fourteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen hundreds era is considered ancient, right, poet, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, Khalil Gibron, who wrote like this amazing kind

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<v Speaker 1>of meditation on life, and I'm going to paraphrase because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't have fourteenth century poetry memorized, but

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<v Speaker 1>he essentially says in this one chapter of the book

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<v Speaker 1>that your capacity for joy is as large as you

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<v Speaker 1>are carved out by sorrow, and like you said, the pendulum,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like it is. It's so emotional, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>also kind of science, right, every action has an equal

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<v Speaker 1>in opposing reaction, and there's something kind of profound to

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<v Speaker 1>me about that where you're like, oh, it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>most raw thing I feel in my heart and like

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<v Speaker 1>what is a heart? What is a soul? And then

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<v Speaker 1>on this other side there's this science to it and

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<v Speaker 1>they meet somehow, and yes, I'm perhaps I'm more capable

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<v Speaker 1>of holding more things because of this, and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that to me, is is the silver lining.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think people are trying to get at

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<v Speaker 1>when they say dumb shit, like everything happens for a reason,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, that's not the thing to say. The

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<v Speaker 1>other the thing to say maybe is just I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>sorry for this tragedy. And also I'm so glad you

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<v Speaker 1>got to laugh with that person for as many years

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<v Speaker 1>as you did.

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<v Speaker 3>Amen.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great way to put it. I also feel that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm lucky. I had twenty seven amazing years

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<v Speaker 2>with an amazing daddy. My girlfriends still have, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>troubled or strained relationships with their fathers. Yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't try and push it on them, like you have

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<v Speaker 2>to fix that because they're you know, everybody's going through

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<v Speaker 2>their own shit.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to be glass that full and say I

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<v Speaker 2>had twenty seven great years with the greatest man ever.

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<v Speaker 3>So like I feel richly blessed in that sense. And

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<v Speaker 3>I am a.

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<v Speaker 2>Wildly naturally joyful person. And even when I went through this,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what can I do. I can either let

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<v Speaker 2>this cripple me and destroy me, and I can be

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<v Speaker 2>mad at the world and I never get through this.

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<v Speaker 2>Or I can pivot and turn this anger and sadness

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<v Speaker 2>and somehow bring it back to joy and then live

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<v Speaker 2>my life. That's what my dad would want, That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody's loved ones would want. Yeah, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>He would be like, get your ass up, go do something,

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<v Speaker 2>Go make someone laugh.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, well, that was for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly right, and him him loving your comedy, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>was also such a reminder like he he would be

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<v Speaker 1>upset if you had given that up in your sadness.

0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.399
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's so special and like even the

0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.720
<v Speaker 1>way you talk about him, I wonder if you know

0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.159
<v Speaker 1>this great relationship you got to have with your dad, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like that influenced the way you fell

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<v Speaker 1>for your husband? Do you feel like you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>such a solid relationship because you had a solid relationship

0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:48.720
<v Speaker 1>modeled for you. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And my dad was such a he loved he loved,

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<v Speaker 2>loved being a girl dad.

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:56.800
<v Speaker 3>And you can still have a sense of confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in my sister and I I mean, I

0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:00.480
<v Speaker 2>joked I was an overly confident kid because my dad

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:01.359
<v Speaker 2>was like, you can do anything.

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:03.200
<v Speaker 3>You're a McMahon, you can do anything. You would always

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:05.680
<v Speaker 3>say that. And when I met my husband, it was

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:07.680
<v Speaker 3>one like they kind of look alike. So I'm sure

0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 3>there's some thing there.

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:14.199
<v Speaker 2>But yes, my my husband reminds me so much of

0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:15.919
<v Speaker 2>my dad in a great way. And when my husband

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 2>and my dad met, which I feel very grateful that

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 2>they had a beautiful relationship before my dad passed. But

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I just remember being like they were like two peas

0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 2>in a pod. And my husband and I were living

0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:26.720
<v Speaker 2>in New York at the time, and he would come

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:28.560
<v Speaker 2>down and my dad would like steal him. He's like, well,

0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Jeff and I are going to go do guy stuff

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 2>all day, like they were best buts and so me

0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 2>them have a mutual respect for each other. Was also

0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 2>just like I knew I found the right one. And

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:40.360
<v Speaker 2>when my dad got sick, he died very quickly. From

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 2>the day of diagnosis to the day of dad that

0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:45.320
<v Speaker 2>was one week, so he was very and unfortunately he

0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:47.399
<v Speaker 2>passed the pancreatic cancer. But we flew him to M

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:49.919
<v Speaker 2>d Anderson in Houston to get like, you know, the

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 2>best care, and I feel very grateful to.

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Them that they did everything they could.

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I flew down and immediately asked my dad for his

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 2>hand and ever my hand in marriage.

0:23:58.119 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 3>It was very sweet.

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:02.360
<v Speaker 2>So like, you know, I feel blessed that they had

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:03.280
<v Speaker 2>that moment together.

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's so special.

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 3>He is my father down to Like.

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 2>If they both didn't have a Lumberjack breakfast like full

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 2>bacon egg, then like the day could not start, you know,

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, the drama.

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 2>But my husband's great too because he allows me to

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:25.440
<v Speaker 2>holy be myself. He is like, go, go be as

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.720
<v Speaker 2>ridiculous on stage as you want, just be you. He's

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 2>never once told me to like tone it down, you know,

0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:34.879
<v Speaker 2>to volume a little lower. He's like, keep going, And

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 2>that's why I know I married the right person.

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. And you know what, it really does take

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>a person who has a healthy relationship to their own

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>ego to not say, hey, maybe don't share this. Yeah,

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe don't tell the world about this part of our relationship,

0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:54.120
<v Speaker 1>or or make this a joke that amps up this

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:57.879
<v Speaker 1>fight we had or whatever. It's like, he has to

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 1>be very emotionally healthy to be like, oh, yeah, go

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 1>make fun of me and everyone. You know.

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what.

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 2>As I've gotten older too, I could give a shit

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 2>where you got a college degree. What you do for

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 2>a living. Emotional in diligence to me is the biggest

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 2>turn on everything. It makes me horny. I'm like, you

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 2>can sit down, have an adult conversation. We can like

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, it doesn't even have to be dramatic, but

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:21.479
<v Speaker 2>we can talk about our feelings and like we can

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:23.479
<v Speaker 2>agree to disagree, but be adults about this.

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm let's do it. I mean, and you know, there

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:28.439
<v Speaker 3>are aspects in comedy.

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 2>There there are things where I'll be like, hey, are

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 2>you cool if I talk about this or whatever, and

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 2>we have a conversation about it. But he is just

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:37.360
<v Speaker 2>so secure in himself. He's like, Yeah, somebody's gonna relate

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 2>to it. It's gonna make someone laugh, it'll make someone think,

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:44.199
<v Speaker 2>surely someone's going through the same situation. So very open

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 2>and supportive of me going out there, and you know,

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 2>sometimes ripping him a new asshole for.

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 3>The sake of the most buddies of you.

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:56.360
<v Speaker 2>When I was on a press tour for my last

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 2>special that came out, and the specials called Breadwinner, and there.

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Was a whole like I was just gonna ask you about.

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 2>This, Yes, the whole arc about it about how I

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 2>make more money than him a man. Every single interview

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.880
<v Speaker 2>they were like, how does Jeff feel about this? How

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 2>does your husband feel about you talking about this? And

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, every male comedian since the dawn of time

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:17.439
<v Speaker 2>has been doing this and you don't ask how their

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.879
<v Speaker 2>wives feel about this shit, how they're about them making

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 2>fun of them on stage. Why is it all of

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, like you know, you're peppering me about it.

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 2>So I finally was just like, Jeff, Fine, he's playing

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:29.120
<v Speaker 2>golf right now.

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 3>You know he didn't give a shit.

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, You're like, they're like, Jeff, Jeff is this generation's

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 1>kept woman and he likes it. Yeah, because he still

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>gets to benefit from being a man.

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Something I think is so cool about you guys is

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that you met before your career totally blew up. You know,

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the specials and the tours and the things. What is

0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 1>that like for you? You know? I guess I ask this,

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll be really vulnerable and say why, because I've once

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 1>or twice or a handful of times in my life

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>been like, oh, this person who has said the right

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 1>things is drawn to the wrong things. Ah. I've sort

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>of had the bamboozol moment, and you know, we live,

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>we learned. It's what therapy's for. But I find it

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>really at this stage in my life being able to

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>look back in that you know, twenty twenty hindsight vision, YadA, YadA.

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, damn, I had no idea what I was

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 1>in for when the show I started at twenty one,

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>blew up, you know, and we were removed, which you know,

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 1>gave us our own set of like high school round

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>two ridiculousness. But I've never, like I've never in my

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>whole adult life. I've not since high school or I

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 1>guess college gone on quote unquote anonymous date. Yeah, and

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:09.919
<v Speaker 1>so like, I don't know. I love y'all's relationship, and

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I can feel how good it is, and I wonder

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>what's it like for you to have had him before this,

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.479
<v Speaker 1>what's it like for him to navigate the changes? And

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 1>how do you do that together? How do you sit

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 1>down and say, all right, we're going to talk it

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>out and we're going to be great because we love

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>each other, and sometimes we'll disagree, Like how does this

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 1>whole thing work when you've been on this roller coaster

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>ride together.

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:37.199
<v Speaker 2>I feel very grateful that I did meet Jeff when

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:39.959
<v Speaker 2>I did, which was you know, we were twenty three

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 2>years old or in the early days living in New York,

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 2>because he was always my champion and even when you know,

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting we started dating I'm living in New York

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.479
<v Speaker 2>for like a year and a half, and then I

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 2>told him I sat him down one day and I said, hey,

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I got to move to la because Joe Rivers told

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 2>me to move del like trying Italian restaurant on the

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Upper East Side. He's like, I knew this is gonna happen,

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 2>but at no point, like we never broke up. He

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 2>was like, go full forward, go ahead, my child, Like

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 2>he said, I don't ever want to get in the

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 2>way of your dreams and for you to resent me

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 2>down the line. So even though we were long distance

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, we just kept supporting each other.

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I kept supporting him business, and again we did not

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 2>know what when lightning was going to strike, but I

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>never once questioned his support on what I wanted to do.

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:29.959
<v Speaker 3>And I'll tell you what.

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 2>There were moments a couple of his friends sat him

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 2>down and we're like, hey, how long are you gonna

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 2>support Heather kind of chasing this comedy dream like it's

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 2>it hasn't worked out yet, Like really, like are you

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 2>when are you gonna have the honest conversation with her

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 2>that maybe she needs to pivot? And sure enough, like

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 2>nine months later, everything took off. And he told me

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>that two years later and he's like, I never told

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 2>you this, but I want you to know. I told

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 2>him to all like fuck off. He's like, no, that's

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>my girl. She's gonna be fine.

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I feel grateful that Jeff. Really we were always each other.

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 3>There's champion.

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 2>And I used to make a joke when I would

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 2>be doing comedy shows in a basement somewhere in like Queen's.

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's like four people in the audience.

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>My husband would be there in a suit from his

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>like corporate gig, and he'd be on the front row,

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 2>and everybody thought he was my manager. And then they

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 2>were like, wow, your manager is so dialed in.

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 3>On your career. I'm like, no, I blow that guy.

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Don't it is?

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's been interesting now because when through comedies, especially,

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I share so much of my relationship and listen.

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 3>A lot of jokes.

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 2>But there are moments where people will say certain things

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 2>to him or I know, he didn't sign up for

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 2>his life to be in a microscope, but there's so

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 2>much bullshit out there that there are days where he's like, oh,

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>don't go on Reddit. This is the dumbishit I've ever heard,

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 2>or don't oh, don't read that DM, and you're like, guys,

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 2>this is comedy.

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Everybody piped down.

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, there are moments where we're just have to

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 2>both have to drown out the noise.

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, he's my buddy. Bit we're right or die together.

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 3>God forbidding where to get hit by a bus tomorrow,

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm done, Like, I'm good, Yeah, I'm good.

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll get it totally. Well more French bulldogs. Live on

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 2>a commune with my girlfriends and all their kids, and I'm.

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Going, yeah, yeah, yeah, You're like, no, I've got the one.

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I love that. I think that's so special.

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>And now a word from our sponsors. Girl, I get it,

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm thank you even for saying it, because sometimes

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>when you're in this crazy, zany world, I think you

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>can forget that other people are dealing with the craziest,

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>zaniest parts of it. And yeah, there are just days

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>that I'm like, oh, I can't go on the internet today,

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 1>like this is kooky. A friend sent me something recently

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and was like, this is so fucking dumb, you know,

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's like from some gossip site blah blah, And

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, first of all, why are you looking?

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>And second of all, I'm going to say this with

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>all the love I can muster, why the fuck would

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you send this to me? Because I'm like, I don't

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 1>want to see it. I can go about my day

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and not see this dumb shit. And the funniest part

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>was to me that like, there was all this speculation

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>honestly just about a dumb inside joke a friend made

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>to me, because sometimes if you don't laugh about something,

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>you know at the time you'll cry. And I so

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>badly wanted to clap back at this person and be like,

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>tell me you don't have a sense of humor without

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>saying I don't have a single cell in my body

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>capable of humor. And then I was like, what's the

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>fucking point. I'm not even going to bother engaging. But

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like, it is so weird when you're just outliving

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>your life and people make a story out of everything

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>that's actually it's it's their story, it's not yours, it

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with you.

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Reddit it's wild and you're like, wait, what I mean,

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 3>it's like cuckoo their hands. I'm like, guys, I'm exhausted.

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm exhausted.

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how y'all came up with these theories that, yeah,

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 2>wearing a blue sweater for three days in a row

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 2>and therefore like durable disease.

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what is happening?

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was getting bullied for a minute. Somebody was like,

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 2>your eyelash extensions are horrible. And then finally one day

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh god, they are they are.

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>You're like, you know what, you know, you could have

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>said it a little differently, but you did me as solid.

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<v Speaker 1>Redditors noted thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But for the most part, because I do comedy, people

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 2>are like, you're my buddy. And that's what's fun is

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 2>being able to talk about things that I know gals

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 2>are having private conversations with with their girlfriends, and then

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 2>being able to explain it on stage and to have

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 2>that moment where people in the audience like, oh, fuck,

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 2>that's what that's what we've been feeling. That's exactly it's

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 2>the community feels really good, and that's when you know

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 2>you're in the pocket. I'm like, you have thought exactly

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 2>what I'm feeling and saying right now, And I like

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>people to leave my show being like, oh shit, never

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 2>never thought of it like that, or or that was

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 2>right on the money.

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 3>That feels very good.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So how do you think about that? Because I

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>think from the outside, you know, I watch a special

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:19.879
<v Speaker 1>or I come to a show and it's all I mean,

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>it's tight, you've got a tight sixty or a tight ninety.

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>But building to that and knowing when you leave a

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>show having a hunch based on audience reaction, what they're

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>going to walk out thinking about, how do you do?

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>To me? It feels like a great big math problem essentially,

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>like doing a special, how do you do the math

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and figure out I want to talk about this. I

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>want to hit this topic, but I want to do

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it in a way that'll make them think, maybe not

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:55.399
<v Speaker 1>make them mad, Like what's the recipe for you this far?

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 2>In?

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 3>It's trial and error too.

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:00.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, when you're working a tour, I go out and,

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 2>like some people like to work, run five minutes, and

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 2>run ten minutes and fifteen, and then they build to

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 2>the hour.

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm a sociopath.

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 2>I like to go out on the road with what

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna guess is probably ninety minutes, and then I

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 2>scale back from there and I'll start a tour and

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, be running all this shitting clubs. But I

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 2>like to run the full hour and then I'll go

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and separate those little bits and then run it like that,

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 2>which is not it's insane, but I think because I'm

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 2>an old theater kid, I only know how to work

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 2>in like full you do the.

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Play, I do the play, I go, I.

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Got It feels scary, but I know.

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Then I scale back.

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:37.919
<v Speaker 2>But you know, running stuff in clubs is the best

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>because I'm just out there and I'm all right, that

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 2>did not work, and you just say it out loud.

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 3>Nope, yep, that worked. Then I scale back from there.

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 2>But like for my first special, it was called Son

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I Never Had, so I knew that the whole idea

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 2>was going to be about my relationship with my dad

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>as a kid, explaining who I was. This was the

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 2>first special for people to like understand who I was

0:35:57.960 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 2>out the gate if you were going on Netflix and

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 2>your like, who is this person? And I wanted to

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 2>explain my relationship with my dad, the humor behind how

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 2>we passed, and that was kind of like my first.

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Little tea up for folks.

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 2>And then the special bread Winner was all about this like, okay,

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 2>now I've made it this over the top Italian wedding

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 2>that I had this thirty day honeymoon. How they got

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>into my head, all these things that happened, and I

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 2>wanted it women to walk away and feel like, oh shit,

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 2>we're feeling this too. And the next hour that I'm

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 2>working on, I'm talking a lot more about politics, which

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I had never touched on before, and I'm just talking

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 2>about that, like, you know, that feeling as a Southern woman.

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 2>We're all sitting in this weird world and trying to

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 2>justify things in our brain and have hard conversations with

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 2>our girlfriends and while also going out there and you know,

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>like trying to make sure our extensions aren't falling out

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:52.839
<v Speaker 2>and our tits are.

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 1>To our that's where we're you know, you know what,

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 1>we can do it all.

0:36:57.640 --> 0:36:58.479
<v Speaker 3>We can do it all.

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:02.399
<v Speaker 1>We can do it all, honey. That particularly, I think

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>when you have something to say about politics, it's like

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>people suddenly think you're no fun. Yeah, they think it's

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>your whole personality. And I'm like, ye'ah, I'm wild, I'm

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 1>so fun. But I will absolutely, you know, take Mitch

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>McConnell to task over his trash policy. And I really

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>do believe. I think, especially when you are an entertainer,

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>a performer. It's because you love people. You love people

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 1>and their stories. You love being able to represent people.

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 1>You love being able to gather people. You love being

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 1>able to help people feel seen. And so when people

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.839
<v Speaker 1>are like, why are all you actors so fucking political,

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, because we have to be, because our whole

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>job is to love people and tell their stories. How

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 1>can I look at what's happening to people in the

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.360
<v Speaker 1>world and be silent?

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>And also, like, my job as a comedian is to

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 2>take the things that are going on in the world,

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:04.840
<v Speaker 2>observe them, and either help us work.

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 3>Through it, giggle about it, or go what the look?

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 3>That is my entire job.

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, and you know I've been doing this new

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>bid about how like a lot of Maga moms couldn't

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 2>believe that I didn't vote for Trump because on paper

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I look like the typical maga mom blonde.

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 3>Hair extensions, you know, from the South.

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Went to the University of Mississippi, and they had felt betrayed,

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, whoa, what has happened here that

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I was not clearly speaking up up enough for y'all

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 2>to think that I was voted for Trump. But the

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 2>reception is great, because I mean, you got again as

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 2>a pendulum swing, so you got to make fun of

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 2>both sides.

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I say that.

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 2>There are moments where I'm like, God, because I live

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:45.240
<v Speaker 2>in Georgia, am I gonna have to cage fight Marjorie

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Green?

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 3>I may have to at some point, for.

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 1>You might have to. We might have to. She you know,

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>she was being insane the other day and I posted

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:56.360
<v Speaker 1>something about it, and somebody goes, well, if you have

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 1>this kind of heat for her, where's your heat for

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Jasmine Crockett? And I that, honey, Jasmine's just matching their volume.

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>And she went yeah, and I was like, we're I'm

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I in the year twenty twenty five. Am done going high?

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I did it for a long time. I grew up

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:16.759
<v Speaker 1>in the young Michelle Obama school of politics. That was

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>my jam. And you know what now, I'm like, bitch,

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to go low, meet me in the gutter.

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I've come from a long line of Italians in New Jersey.

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Meet me in the gutter. Let's go.

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I feel the exact same way. And that's, you know,

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 2>my job in comedy. I'm like, I'm talking about the

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 2>things that again, all these girls are talking about other

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 2>their country clubs. So they're talking about, you know, at

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 2>the PTA meeting whatever. I know, I'm going to make

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 2>you sit and have a and think about it in

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 2>a different way because we have to like, why are

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 2>we not as women having these conversations.

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 1>No, we have to, Oh, this is why we really

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 1>need to do our show.

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 3>We need to do our show.

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>We have to do a show.

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 3>We've got to. Let's do it. We'll get okay for.

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>The friends at home. Sometime times I forget that people

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>listen to this and I'm like, oh good, we're just

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 1>having like a glass of wine on zoom and we

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 1>don't have wine currently listeners, but I wish we did.

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a little too early, but you know, next time

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I am talking about how it was. I think two

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 1>years ago at the big Elton John Aids Foundation fundraiser

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 1>that coincides with the Oscars, we'd had a couple of

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 1>tequilas and decided we were going to do a TV

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:27.839
<v Speaker 1>show together, and we got to figure out what.

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 3>It is we with it.

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 1>We have no idea what the show is, but we

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>were like, oh, we want to go to work together

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 1>every day.

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 2>This would be fun and my favorite thing is figuring

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 2>out that creative And I think because I write stand up,

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 2>I love the pitch like your old school actress where

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 2>you go in and probably crush an audition.

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 3>I am so bad at audition.

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 2>I can let me do the sales of it, let

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 2>me go in and razzle dazzle the network, and then

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 2>just show up on set.

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 3>But don't make me audition.

0:40:56.760 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Auditions are also so weird because your whole job as

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 1>an actor is to make a space and a relationship

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like yours, and then you do an audition like

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:13.320
<v Speaker 1>this in front of a fucking sheet with no human

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 1>and someone who the whole time they're reading with you

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 1>god bless the casting director, but like they're reading on

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the paper, and you're like, but the whole way I

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 1>do my job is to connect with someone and we

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 1>have a beat and we have a little high moment

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and then we both giggle, and none of that can

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:29.760
<v Speaker 1>happen in an audition.

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 2>No, And I have this theory that I swear by

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:34.839
<v Speaker 2>that all of my self tapes that I and I'm

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 2>always reading with like my husband or my mom and

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:40.240
<v Speaker 2>my basement, I'm like, these never got to the casting director.

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:42.320
<v Speaker 2>They never got to the producers. They are sitting in

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 2>a vault somewhere and at my funeral, it will be

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:45.319
<v Speaker 2>like like a.

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.800
<v Speaker 3>Cruel, practical joke. These auditions.

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>That's your episode of punk. Yeah.

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 3>Like that sweet sweet girl she thought she was auditioning.

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 1>That sweet girl from Mississippi.

0:41:58.239 --> 0:41:59.359
<v Speaker 3>That's sweet Southern Bale.

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 2>She thought she was auditioning, but really we were just

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 2>pulling one big prank on her.

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, God, why am I not?

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, jobs, You're like, what the fuck is

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:07.479
<v Speaker 1>going on here?

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I love that. Okay, I have this question for you

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 1>because we don't know what our show is going to be,

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>but I do think about things I want to watch

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you do, which is you know, fun for me as

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:18.280
<v Speaker 1>a fan and a friend.

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 3>I love this.

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>What award show would you want to host if you could?

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Because I think you need to host an award show?

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, I am a TV nerd, so I would love

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 2>to do the Emmys. Ooh okay, yeah, I mean Nikki

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 2>did an incredible job at the Globe.

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 1>She was so good.

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 3>Conan was phenomenal at the Oscars. He's coming back. But

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:40.879
<v Speaker 3>I think the Emmys would be really really fun.

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh and Chelsea crushes what did she do the sad

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes critics Choice critics Choice, Yes. I think doing the

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Emmys would be insane. Really Okay, I've been, you know,

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>doing some of the red carpet stuff allah Joan Rivers,

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:56.879
<v Speaker 2>but I'm really only getting my footing there because it's

0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 2>it's that is actually out of performing ninety minutes of memory,

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I stand up being you know, doing sales pitches whatever.

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 2>The podcasting. Doing the Red Carpet is the hardest gig

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:07.919
<v Speaker 2>I have ever had.

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 1>It is so scary to me thinking about that.

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>You have a producer in your ear, you're doing quick

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 2>changes live on air, you have cards, their publicists are

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 2>saying don't ask them about this, or ask them about this,

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 2>or make sure you hit this note. And you have

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds to talk to Arianna Grande, who's just like

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 2>floating through the air because she's such an angel, and

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 2>you're like, what is happening? Yeah, a gnarly gig. People

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 2>don't realize how hard doing live hosting is.

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I don't know how you do it. I'm

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 1>endlessly impressed. This is kind of my world. I like

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 1>to cozy and have a deep talk and giggle and

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, get into stuff. The quickness of a carpet interview,

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>like it stresses me out having to answer the questions.

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:55.319
<v Speaker 1>If I had to ask them and do this in

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 1>short form, I actually think I'd have a panic attack.

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I get I only done a you know, award season

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 2>for like two years now, and every time we wrap

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:06.799
<v Speaker 2>and it's like and the you know, the Emmys are

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 2>live on NBC and I hear that and they're like,

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:10.360
<v Speaker 2>can you collapse?

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:12.319
<v Speaker 3>I literally hit the deck.

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 2>And half the time I'm wearing a pair of birkin

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 2>stocks because I'm taller than every guy in.

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Hollywood, so I have to like amazing, you know, they're

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 3>oadstanding on an apple box and I'm like down on

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 3>the ground and I'm just like, somebody get me a

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:24.720
<v Speaker 3>glass of white wine. I can't.

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 2>That was the wildest three hours. And yeah, it's it's

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 2>an adrenaline rush. It is really wild. Yeah, I kind

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 2>of find my flooding there with being more funny and

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 2>being myself. But you're also like, okay, I've got to

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 2>hit I gotta hit the notes, you know.

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's a time. Oh my god, I'm blessed.

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Let's manifest the Emmys. I think you need to do

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:46.240
<v Speaker 1>another drawing.

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, like event.

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 2>And now now I will say so in my office

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 2>and you can't see all them. I have all my

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:55.879
<v Speaker 2>vision boards up.

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Is that what those are?

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:44:57.680 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 2>So back here is like a vision board and I

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.719
<v Speaker 2>have them all around on the other sides of my office.

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 3>It is really wild.

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I started vision boarding back in twenty eighteen, and I

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 2>did it one day. I was hungover. It was New

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:09.839
<v Speaker 2>Year's Day. I saw somebody do it on Instagram.

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:11.240
<v Speaker 3>My husband was watching football.

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm going to take a gummy and

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to make some vision boards because I'm visual

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:16.320
<v Speaker 2>and I like to scrap book and doodle.

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.359
<v Speaker 2>A couple of years later everything started to pop off.

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 2>So now I've made the early thing where I make

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 2>these vision boards and it's not you know. All I

0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 2>do is I basically have this conversation with myself. What

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 2>do I want? What do I want the future to

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:33.880
<v Speaker 2>look like? What am I asking of myself? What am

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I asking the universe to connect for me? And it

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.879
<v Speaker 2>is wild, like the things that have come true by

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 2>making these vision boards.

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Wait, I love that. Can I come over and make

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>one with you?

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I'm so into this.

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing a.

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Comedy cruise here in two weeks where I'm taking a

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 2>bunch of fans on an Origin cruise ship and we're

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 2>doing a vision board party. I'm like, what I'm telling you,

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 2>if you write it down, will come true. No.

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 1>My friend Skuy says this all the time. We did

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a show together a couple of years ago and I

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:08.760
<v Speaker 1>was planning something on Pinterest and the thing I planned

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>looked exactly like the Pinterest board, but better. And she

0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, do you not understand when you're helping a

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 1>friend design a house on Pinterest, or you're doing these

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 1>mood boards that you make for characters you're vision boarding.

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 1>She was like, look at how powerful you are at manifesting.

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:26.759
<v Speaker 1>You actually have to start applying that to you and

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>what you want, not just to what you're helping create

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 1>out in the world. And I was like, oh my god.

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:37.759
<v Speaker 1>And I'm I'm so inspired by her, and I'm also

0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 1>like a little scared, so I want to try, No,

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:41.800
<v Speaker 1>do it.

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing to be scared about.

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean you, to me, it's a conversation with your

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:50.440
<v Speaker 2>inner self saying what do I expect from myself in

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 2>this life?

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:53.040
<v Speaker 3>It's not just about putting fancy.

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Cars and big houses, and you know, I went up

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 2>not go do this, but man, dammit, I've I've had

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 2>things check off the vision board down like throw pillows

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 2>on a couch where I'm like, oh shit, I have

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 2>those chairs, I have that lamp, Like what is this?

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 1>That is so funny?

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:11.479
<v Speaker 2>But I really it's all also too, I think because

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 2>when I was a little kid, you know, back to

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 2>the book that I wrote in the fourth grade or

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 2>the story that I was saying, I always saw a

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 2>vision of what exactly I wanted things to look like

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:20.959
<v Speaker 2>and what I want.

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 3>And so it's always been that.

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Kind of quiet voice inside of myself that's like, no,

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 2>you know what path you want to be on, you

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:28.880
<v Speaker 2>know what you want, you know what you're expecting of

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.760
<v Speaker 2>your life. I love that, and I have a visual reminder.

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I look up at the wall and I'm like, oh, yeah, no,

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what. I need to get back to that

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:37.359
<v Speaker 2>because that's something that I put down as a goal

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 2>for myself.

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's really that feels powerful.

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Is powerful, you know.

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 1>And now a word from our wonderful sponsors. It's interesting

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 1>too to think about that drawing you showed me at

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the top of the hour. You know, you standing on

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a stage in front of an audience. It's it's what

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:08.839
<v Speaker 1>you do. I mean, you're on tour right now. You're

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 1>on your bamboozled tour.

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 3>On the bamboozled tour. Yeh.

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 1>By the way, that's probably why I said that word earlier.

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:19.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like, in my subconscious, what is this tour about

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 1>for our friends at home? And then I just really

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:24.239
<v Speaker 1>want to know what your favorite part of touring is

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 1>this tour is about?

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, what is it about? It's about everything. Oh,

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot in that.

0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, we got a hair flip.

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 2>She's thinking, it's about how one I'm constantly bamboozling myself.

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 2>As women, we have a lot of outside noise that

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 2>we end up getting bamboozled about. The dream is a bamboozlement.

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:46.880
<v Speaker 2>The expectations on us are a bamboozlement. And I just

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:50.279
<v Speaker 2>find a really ridiculous way of connecting how we have

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 2>also done this to ourselves. And my favorite part of touring, honestly,

0:48:57.280 --> 0:49:00.840
<v Speaker 2>stand up is so fun because you know, in this business,

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 2>we developed which we are going to develop our show,

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:05.719
<v Speaker 2>but we dive bos. You have to wait for so

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.239
<v Speaker 2>many yeses, and you hear so many news stand up

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 2>is immediate. I get up on stage no in ten seconds,

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:13.400
<v Speaker 2>whether they like it or they don't.

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 3>And I love that check of let's go.

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:18.840
<v Speaker 2>And when you get that energy from a live audience,

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 2>there is nothing better. Like I always said, I want

0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:23.759
<v Speaker 2>to do multi cams because I you know, I'm a

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 2>theater kid. I want that live audience. I want that

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 2>immediate reaction. It feels so good to.

0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, I would love that.

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 2>And be with my friends is great. I've got a

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:33.880
<v Speaker 2>great grew around me and we just have fun. And

0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 2>like to say that I've seen America, I've toured in Australia.

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Like to go to places, touch people's hands and be like,

0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:43.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, thank you for being here. There's just the

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:45.360
<v Speaker 2>human connection is incredible.

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 3>It really love that.

0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I love that. And then what was the impetus behind

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the podcast? Because absolutely not. It is comedy in a way,

0:49:57.120 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's also a place I think where you get

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 1>to be your whole self, if not just your performer self.

0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:05.880
<v Speaker 1>What led you to starting that and why in the

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:08.799
<v Speaker 1>world did you start a podcast while you're also on

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 1>a tour. Do you just love to torture yourself.

0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:13.759
<v Speaker 2>I really do listen. My entire team is like, shall

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:15.840
<v Speaker 2>we put too much on our plate? And again I

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 2>bamboozled myself. The podcast I started years ago because I

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 2>wanted to have this like call to action. Okay, people

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:24.000
<v Speaker 2>could call in and then I would give them like

0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 2>horrific unsolicited life advice. I listen to some other podcasts

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 2>where they're actually like trying to fix people's problems.

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, if you call in, I'm going to

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 3>give you a sarcastic response, Oh my god. Love. And

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 3>then it's also.

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, my therapist would say, like, again, you're over

0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:39.920
<v Speaker 2>sharing too much on your podcast.

0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:42.279
<v Speaker 3>But it is just a it's almost like a brain

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:42.880
<v Speaker 3>dump for me.

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Every week I hear what other people are going through,

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I brain dump what I'm going through, and it's just

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 2>such a part of my week where I'm giggling to myself.

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:53.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm my hour straight at just.

0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:58.880
<v Speaker 2>The insanity of humanity of yeah us just trying to

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:02.399
<v Speaker 2>get through each day and so much joy. But am

0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I doing a lot? Yes, Yes, I am doing a lot.

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:06.439
<v Speaker 2>I am doing a lot right now.

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:06.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to come and give bad advice on

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 1>your podcast. That feels so fun.

0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Love to have you, I please on the podcast we

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 3>would love Oh I love that.

0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:22.879
<v Speaker 1>Years ago, I did Anna Faris' podcast and we got

0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:25.440
<v Speaker 1>a really sweet question from someone and yeah, we were

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to like give great advice. But I also think

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 1>purposefully giving ridiculous advice feels fun.

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, sometimes there are a lighthearted moment or

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 2>like tender moments and I've cried so yeah on this

0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 2>podcast by myself, where I listen back and I'm like.

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, what did I have a breakdown?

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Less?

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's all about human connection and the

0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:49.400
<v Speaker 2>fact totally believe and trust me with their stories.

0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:52.239
<v Speaker 3>It's funny, though. I do tell the girl is all

0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:52.560
<v Speaker 3>the time.

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:56.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, hey, y'all, if you have done something illegal,

0:51:56.480 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 2>do not call into the podcast when you're drunk and

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:01.239
<v Speaker 2>then let us know. Oh because I will delete it.

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 2>But quit telling me where the bodies are buried.

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you got to protect yourselves a little bit. Ladies.

0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, well you are.

0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:13.040
<v Speaker 1>So known, I mean not just on the show, everywhere

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:16.439
<v Speaker 1>for your for your hot takes. What's your hottest take

0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 1>this week?

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.120
<v Speaker 3>What do you got? What's my hottest take?

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:24.919
<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, My hottest take this week is the world

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 2>on fire and we are just trying to keep our

0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 2>head above water. So every day, my hottest take is

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 2>protect your mental well being, because if you consume shit

0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:37.600
<v Speaker 2>all day long, it will make you nuts. And we

0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:40.240
<v Speaker 2>still have to live each day to the fullest because again,

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:42.399
<v Speaker 2>like you said earlier, life is short, but it's also

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 2>very long. So yeah, the best you can with the

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 2>people around you and take care of the bele that

0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 2>you love. We're not going to fix everything tomorrow. But

0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I've had moments where I will consume so much and

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 2>it will make me spiral and it will be crazy,

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.160
<v Speaker 2>and I'll watch something backstage and then I'm like, Okay,

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:01.360
<v Speaker 2>now i gotta go back on stage and make everybody

0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:04.839
<v Speaker 2>feel positive and giggle. And I have to take moments

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 2>where I'm like, I got to tune it out for

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 2>a minute, you know.

0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everybody's got to take your their mental health.

0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm I'm learning to do the same. And i

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like I've also finally hit a point where I'm like,

0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm guys, admittedly, I'm not an expert at everything. No

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:21.440
<v Speaker 1>one is.

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:22.960
<v Speaker 3>I am not.

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I am no longer willing to feel pressured into having

0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:29.360
<v Speaker 1>a take if I'm like, this is not my job.

0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:31.279
<v Speaker 1>It's just not my job. I'm going to do the

0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 1>best I can, and there will be mental health breaks

0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 1>and there will be days when I don't do this.

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<v Speaker 1>And even for me, something I've tried to do consciously

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<v Speaker 1>lately is I do the you know, the signal boosting,

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<v Speaker 1>the news sharing that do you know about this? Call

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<v Speaker 1>your senators about that, this bill is up? This is

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<v Speaker 1>really important. I'm sharing all that stuff more like a broadcaster.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sharing it in my stories every day, so it's timely.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm really trying to keep what I put it

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<v Speaker 1>up on a grid happy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel like we need it. And for me, beginning to

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<v Speaker 1>separate and balance my life, sharing is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>my life and the news shit, I'm going to share

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<v Speaker 1>like the news it's on and if you miss it,

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<v Speaker 1>go find it somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's how I feel too as a comic,

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<v Speaker 2>like I have to we have to talk about these

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<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable conversations and I want you to leave laughing, and

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<v Speaker 2>also like it makes you think, you know, it's even

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<v Speaker 2>in comedy, it's topical, and you have to keep moving

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<v Speaker 2>and things are changing rapidly every day. But there are

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<v Speaker 2>moments where I'm just like, all right, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>say it, we're gonna giggle, we're gonna pull it apart,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to figure it out, and then we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to put it to bed and we have to walk

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<v Speaker 2>away and just be like, we're gonna make it, We're.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna be okay exactly, We're all gonna go nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, and I think balance in general, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>something I'm really working on. I'm really working on understanding

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<v Speaker 1>that I have an irrational sense of time. I really

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<v Speaker 1>think I can get way more done in a day

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<v Speaker 1>than as humanly possible. So I'm working on bringing down

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<v Speaker 1>my bamboozling of myself that I'm trying to bring down

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<v Speaker 1>the volume on the daily to do list so that

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<v Speaker 1>I can actually be better at the things I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that one of the things on my vision

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<v Speaker 2>board was like it says less stressed, RESTful, and what

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<v Speaker 2>does it say, Oh, replenished. Because I realized love a replenished,

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<v Speaker 2>love a replenish I would burn myself out so bad

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<v Speaker 2>and say yes to everything, and then one shitty friend,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a shitty wife, I'm in a bad mood when

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<v Speaker 2>I come home, and I was like, what are we

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<v Speaker 2>doing here if I don't actually start physically taking care

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<v Speaker 2>of myself saying yes, and you know, yeah, some people

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<v Speaker 2>may call me a grandma some days because I can't

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<v Speaker 2>go out and do all the things I used to do,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Well take care of myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So then when we spend my love language's quality time,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be in a good mood and be

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<v Speaker 2>there for you and not be just a burnt out

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<v Speaker 2>bitch all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I don't want to sit at dinner feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like a shell of a human. Yes, is that do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that recalibration? Would you say that right now?

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<v Speaker 1>That's your work in progress?

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<v Speaker 3>Or is this someone I sent my work in progress?

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<v Speaker 2>And then, you know, I feel we are all obviously

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<v Speaker 2>in this rat race of this industry and things are changing.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know I said or you mentioned earlier like

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<v Speaker 2>oh I was a late bloomer.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I'm still.

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<v Speaker 2>I turned thirty eighth this year, and there's things that I

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<v Speaker 2>have to get done before I can have a family

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<v Speaker 2>and I can do all these things. So it's finding

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<v Speaker 2>these moments where it's like it's all going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a deep breath.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Be the star or show up to the gig if

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<v Speaker 2>I am a shell of a human, I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I really had to take moments and have hard

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<v Speaker 2>conversations with myself where it's like, hey, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>be selfish for a minute, whether people get upset with

0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 2>you or not, you need to be selfish and take

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<v Speaker 2>care of yourself. Yes, or there will be nothing, like

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<v Speaker 2>we will have no career.

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<v Speaker 1>There'll be nothing left. Yeah, yeah, I love that. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think to your point, women, the world wants to

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<v Speaker 1>bamboozle us, and we do it to ourselves. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think anytime we can sit down and really just say

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I need, it's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>One. And the pressure that we put on ourselves, the

0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:31.840
<v Speaker 2>pressure that the outside world puts on us, whether you're

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<v Speaker 2>a stay at home mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether you're a fortune five hundred early, we're supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>do it all.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have a whole twenty minute bit about

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<v Speaker 2>our cortisol Like it's it's like everyone's cortisols through the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking roof.

0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:44.480
<v Speaker 3>And nobody knows your cortisol is and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then on top of that, you go to the doctor

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<v Speaker 2>and they can't figure out your hormones. I'm like, how

0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:52.000
<v Speaker 2>are we all this stressed, sweaty, exhausted while also having

0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:54.280
<v Speaker 2>insomnia and none of us can figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the bottle of wine conversation we're having next. But

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Where can people get tickets to your

0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:03.960
<v Speaker 1>remaining tour dates?

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<v Speaker 2>You can get tickets at Heather ontour dot com. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm serious, we gotta we have to get together a lady,

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>And figure out.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta do it. I'm gonna text youant me, beat

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<v Speaker 1>me tweets, all right, I know where to find.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you, adore you truly same.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you make me so happy and I just really

0:58:22.840 --> 0:58:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I cherish that I get to know you.

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<v Speaker 3>My God, that's the kindest thing get for her. It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>And you make me laugh. Bless you.

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<v Speaker 3>You're doing the most. I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>You're doing the Lord's work, honey. Thank you for today,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my

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<v Speaker 3>God, thank you