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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back Whipsmarties for an episode I am so excited about.

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Speaker 1: We are joined by one of my favorite comedians today,

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Speaker 1: Heather McMahon is on the podcast here to talk about

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Speaker 1: her latest comedy tour, her incredible podcast, and how she

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Speaker 1: manages to literally do it all. You can stream her

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Speaker 1: comedy special Breadwinner now on Hulu, in which she very

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Speaker 1: humorously and hilariously explores the pressures of being her family's

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Speaker 1: financial support, the perils of being a golf widow, wedding

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Speaker 1: planning on an overblown budget, in law dynamics, and more.

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Speaker 1: And you can get a dose of her every week

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Speaker 1: on her podcast Absolutely Not, she says absolutely not to

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Speaker 1: legitimately everything. She's making a safe space for us all

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Speaker 1: to tell all and bitch about all the rest. There

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Speaker 1: are no topics off limits on her show. She breaks

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Speaker 1: down every day struggles of doing the most and the

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Speaker 1: least at the same damn time. It is so funny.

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Speaker 1: It definitely brings me joy in a crazy, crazy year.

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Speaker 1: So let's dive in and hear from Heather. Okay, before

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Speaker 1: we jump into this insanity that we live in, I

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Speaker 1: got to rewind with you, because I like to know

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Speaker 1: who people were as kids. And this is why I

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Speaker 1: know you. I mean I met you as a I'm

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Speaker 1: probably a bumbling fan. Like when we met, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I got aye. But we all know you from your

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Speaker 1: work and your jokes and your personality and the tours

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Speaker 1: and the space rushels and the things. If we went

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Speaker 1: back to before your life was this, and if you

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Speaker 1: got to hang out with yourself at like eight or

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Speaker 2: No, I would be able to look myself in the

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Speaker 2: eyes and be like, well, you did exactly what you

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Speaker 2: said you were going to do. I was a very

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Speaker 2: determined kid. I knew exactly what I wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: I was going to be in theater. I was going

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Speaker 2: to be in comedy. Actually is so interesting. I found

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Speaker 2: a book. My mom and I were cleaning out some

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Speaker 2: closets at her house, literally found a book last week.

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Speaker 3: It was called Growing Up.

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Speaker 2: And it was a book that like everybody in our

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Speaker 2: class in fourth grade wrote a little thing of like

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Speaker 2: what they want to be when they get older. Mine,

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Speaker 2: I shit you not, I'll pull it up. Mine a picture, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I have a picture of the whole thing. Mine was

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Speaker 2: me on stage getting a Grammy because I thought I

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Speaker 2: was going to be a singer. I did a lot

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Speaker 2: a little drawing of me getting my Grammy. Oh, I

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Speaker 2: don't mind me as I'm scrolling for it. Okay, so

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Speaker 3: So this is me. I don't e ses at the

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Speaker 2: My whole thing it says when I grow up, I

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Speaker 2: many opportunities to accomplish this dream. I'd love to have

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Speaker 2: I go on to basically say, if you can believe

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Speaker 2: I say I'd love to have a show like Rosie O'donnald's.

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Speaker 2: She's just such a great person with a lot of talent.

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Speaker 2: And I literally like go on to say, like I,

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Speaker 2: But I think that became a harder thing later and

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Speaker 1: So when by the time you got to college, was

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Speaker 3: A mixture of both. I think when you are because

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Speaker 2: I was a little kid, I always said I'm going

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Speaker 3: So for me, it was like, I, while I.

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Speaker 2: Enjoyed my college experience so much, I was ready to

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Speaker 2: reinvent yourself a billion times through your life, right of course,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I knew I was a very driven kid.

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Speaker 1: Actual copy of that photo I want to make, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so obviously Rosie O'Donnell is one answer to this question.

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Speaker 1: But who else from the comedy world inspired you when

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Speaker 2: Huge Lucille Ball fan because I'm very big in a

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Speaker 3: But for the reason I got understand up was Joan Rivers.

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Speaker 2: Joan was just saying things back in the day that

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Speaker 2: Years later, I moved to La I'm sitting at a

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Speaker 3: So I went to LA and I said, I took

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Speaker 2: I have a really good feeling about you. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: was like, Joan, gave me your blessing. She died like

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Speaker 2: I got to meet her daughter, Melissa about a year ago,

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Speaker 2: and I told Melissa, I was like, you don't understand,

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Speaker 2: Truly, Who did you follow growing up? Because I mean,

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Speaker 1: stage what And it changed my whole life. I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: Well, and my dad, ironically enough, you know, for his

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Speaker 1: over his forty plus years career was John Rivers. Wow, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, she'd have something to do in New York

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Speaker 1: and be like, absolutely not. You got to fly Charles

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Speaker 1: Bush out here from LA. I'm not shooting with anybody here.

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Speaker 1: She she had a point where she was like, nobody

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Speaker 1: it would. They had a very sweet friend.

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Speaker 3: ask them because.

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Speaker 1: I already wrote down a note.

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Speaker 2: right now, and that's what I need.

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Speaker 3: And I was stuck Getty Images.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I need a blown up rent like

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm lucky. I had twenty seven amazing years

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00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: with an amazing daddy. My girlfriends still have, you know,

437
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 2: troubled or strained relationships with their fathers. Yeah, And I

438
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 2: don't try and push it on them, like you have

439
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 2: to fix that because they're you know, everybody's going through

440
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 2: their own shit.

441
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 3: But I do.

442
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: I have to be glass that full and say I

443
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 2: had twenty seven great years with the greatest man ever.

444
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 3: So like I feel richly blessed in that sense. And

445
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 3: I am a.

446
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: Wildly naturally joyful person. And even when I went through this,

447
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, what can I do. I can either let

448
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 2: this cripple me and destroy me, and I can be

449
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 2: mad at the world and I never get through this.

450
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 2: Or I can pivot and turn this anger and sadness

451
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 2: and somehow bring it back to joy and then live

452
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 2: my life. That's what my dad would want, That's what

453
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 2: I think everybody's loved ones would want. Yeah, I can't.

454
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 2: He would be like, get your ass up, go do something,

455
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 2: Go make someone laugh.

456
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 3: Like, well, that was for yourself.

457
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: Exactly right, and him him loving your comedy, I'm sure

458
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: was also such a reminder like he he would be

459
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: upset if you had given that up in your sadness.

460
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: And I think it's so special and like even the

461
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: way you talk about him, I wonder if you know

462
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Speaker 1: this great relationship you got to have with your dad, Like,

463
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Speaker 1: do you feel like that influenced the way you fell

464
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 1: for your husband? Do you feel like you guys have

465
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: such a solid relationship because you had a solid relationship

466
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: modeled for you. Oh.

467
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: Yes, And my dad was such a he loved he loved,

468
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 2: loved being a girl dad.

469
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Speaker 3: And you can still have a sense of confidence.

470
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 2: I think in my sister and I I mean, I

471
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: joked I was an overly confident kid because my dad

472
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 2: was like, you can do anything.

473
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 3: You're a McMahon, you can do anything. You would always

474
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 3: say that. And when I met my husband, it was

475
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: one like they kind of look alike. So I'm sure

476
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: there's some thing there.

477
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 2: But yes, my my husband reminds me so much of

478
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 2: my dad in a great way. And when my husband

479
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: and my dad met, which I feel very grateful that

480
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: they had a beautiful relationship before my dad passed. But

481
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 2: I just remember being like they were like two peas

482
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: in a pod. And my husband and I were living

483
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: in New York at the time, and he would come

484
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: down and my dad would like steal him. He's like, well,

485
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 2: Jeff and I are going to go do guy stuff

486
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: all day, like they were best buts and so me

487
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: them have a mutual respect for each other. Was also

488
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: just like I knew I found the right one. And

489
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 2: when my dad got sick, he died very quickly. From

490
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: the day of diagnosis to the day of dad that

491
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: was one week, so he was very and unfortunately he

492
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 2: passed the pancreatic cancer. But we flew him to M

493
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 2: d Anderson in Houston to get like, you know, the

494
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: best care, and I feel very grateful to.

495
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: Them that they did everything they could.

496
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 2: I flew down and immediately asked my dad for his

497
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: hand and ever my hand in marriage.

498
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: It was very sweet.

499
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 2: So like, you know, I feel blessed that they had

500
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: that moment together.

501
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: You know, that's so special.

502
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 3: He is my father down to Like.

503
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: If they both didn't have a Lumberjack breakfast like full

504
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: bacon egg, then like the day could not start, you know,

505
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: oh my god, the drama.

506
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

507
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

508
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: But my husband's great too because he allows me to

509
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 2: holy be myself. He is like, go, go be as

510
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: ridiculous on stage as you want, just be you. He's

511
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: never once told me to like tone it down, you know,

512
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 2: to volume a little lower. He's like, keep going, And

513
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: that's why I know I married the right person.

514
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: That's amazing. And you know what, it really does take

515
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: a person who has a healthy relationship to their own

516
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: ego to not say, hey, maybe don't share this. Yeah,

517
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: maybe don't tell the world about this part of our relationship,

518
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: or or make this a joke that amps up this

519
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: fight we had or whatever. It's like, he has to

520
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: be very emotionally healthy to be like, oh, yeah, go

521
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: make fun of me and everyone. You know.

522
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

523
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: As I've gotten older too, I could give a shit

524
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: where you got a college degree. What you do for

525
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: a living. Emotional in diligence to me is the biggest

526
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: turn on everything. It makes me horny. I'm like, you

527
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: can sit down, have an adult conversation. We can like

528
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't even have to be dramatic, but

529
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 2: we can talk about our feelings and like we can

530
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 2: agree to disagree, but be adults about this.

531
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: I'm let's do it. I mean, and you know, there

532
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 3: are aspects in comedy.

533
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: There there are things where I'll be like, hey, are

534
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: you cool if I talk about this or whatever, and

535
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: we have a conversation about it. But he is just

536
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 2: so secure in himself. He's like, Yeah, somebody's gonna relate

537
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 2: to it. It's gonna make someone laugh, it'll make someone think,

538
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 2: surely someone's going through the same situation. So very open

539
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: and supportive of me going out there, and you know,

540
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: sometimes ripping him a new asshole for.

541
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: The sake of the most buddies of you.

542
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 2: When I was on a press tour for my last

543
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 2: special that came out, and the specials called Breadwinner, and there.

544
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: Was a whole like I was just gonna ask you about.

545
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: This, Yes, the whole arc about it about how I

546
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: make more money than him a man. Every single interview

547
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 2: they were like, how does Jeff feel about this? How

548
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: does your husband feel about you talking about this? And

549
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, every male comedian since the dawn of time

550
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 2: has been doing this and you don't ask how their

551
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 2: wives feel about this shit, how they're about them making

552
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: fun of them on stage. Why is it all of

553
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 2: a sudden, like you know, you're peppering me about it.

554
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: So I finally was just like, Jeff, Fine, he's playing

555
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 2: golf right now.

556
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 3: You know he didn't give a shit.

557
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, You're like, they're like, Jeff, Jeff is this generation's

558
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: kept woman and he likes it. Yeah, because he still

559
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: gets to benefit from being a man.

560
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

561
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: Something I think is so cool about you guys is

562
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: that you met before your career totally blew up. You know,

563
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: the specials and the tours and the things. What is

564
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: that like for you? You know? I guess I ask this,

565
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: I'll be really vulnerable and say why, because I've once

566
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: or twice or a handful of times in my life

567
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: been like, oh, this person who has said the right

568
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: things is drawn to the wrong things. Ah. I've sort

569
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: of had the bamboozol moment, and you know, we live,

570
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: we learned. It's what therapy's for. But I find it

571
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: really at this stage in my life being able to

572
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: look back in that you know, twenty twenty hindsight vision, YadA, YadA.

573
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I had no idea what I was

574
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: in for when the show I started at twenty one,

575
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: blew up, you know, and we were removed, which you know,

576
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: gave us our own set of like high school round

577
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: two ridiculousness. But I've never, like I've never in my

578
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: whole adult life. I've not since high school or I

579
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: guess college gone on quote unquote anonymous date. Yeah, and

580
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: so like, I don't know. I love y'all's relationship, and

581
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: I can feel how good it is, and I wonder

582
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: what's it like for you to have had him before this,

583
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: what's it like for him to navigate the changes? And

584
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: how do you do that together? How do you sit

585
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: down and say, all right, we're going to talk it

586
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: out and we're going to be great because we love

587
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: each other, and sometimes we'll disagree, Like how does this

588
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: whole thing work when you've been on this roller coaster

589
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: ride together.

590
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 2: I feel very grateful that I did meet Jeff when

591
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 2: I did, which was you know, we were twenty three

592
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: years old or in the early days living in New York,

593
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: because he was always my champion and even when you know,

594
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: it's interesting we started dating I'm living in New York

595
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 2: for like a year and a half, and then I

596
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: told him I sat him down one day and I said, hey,

597
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: I got to move to la because Joe Rivers told

598
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: me to move del like trying Italian restaurant on the

599
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: Upper East Side. He's like, I knew this is gonna happen,

600
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: but at no point, like we never broke up. He

601
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: was like, go full forward, go ahead, my child, Like

602
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: he said, I don't ever want to get in the

603
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: way of your dreams and for you to resent me

604
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: down the line. So even though we were long distance

605
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: for a long time, we just kept supporting each other.

606
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: I kept supporting him business, and again we did not

607
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: know what when lightning was going to strike, but I

608
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: never once questioned his support on what I wanted to do.

609
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what.

610
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: There were moments a couple of his friends sat him

611
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: down and we're like, hey, how long are you gonna

612
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: support Heather kind of chasing this comedy dream like it's

613
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: it hasn't worked out yet, Like really, like are you

614
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: when are you gonna have the honest conversation with her

615
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: that maybe she needs to pivot? And sure enough, like

616
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: nine months later, everything took off. And he told me

617
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: that two years later and he's like, I never told

618
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: you this, but I want you to know. I told

619
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: him to all like fuck off. He's like, no, that's

620
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: my girl. She's gonna be fine.

621
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: I feel grateful that Jeff. Really we were always each other.

622
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: There's champion.

623
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: And I used to make a joke when I would

624
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: be doing comedy shows in a basement somewhere in like Queen's.

625
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: You know, there's like four people in the audience.

626
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: My husband would be there in a suit from his

627
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: like corporate gig, and he'd be on the front row,

628
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: and everybody thought he was my manager. And then they

629
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: were like, wow, your manager is so dialed in.

630
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: On your career. I'm like, no, I blow that guy.

631
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: Don't it is?

632
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's been interesting now because when through comedies, especially,

633
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: I share so much of my relationship and listen.

634
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: A lot of jokes.

635
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: But there are moments where people will say certain things

636
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: to him or I know, he didn't sign up for

637
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: his life to be in a microscope, but there's so

638
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: much bullshit out there that there are days where he's like, oh,

639
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: don't go on Reddit. This is the dumbishit I've ever heard,

640
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: or don't oh, don't read that DM, and you're like, guys,

641
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: this is comedy.

642
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 3: Everybody piped down.

643
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: You know, there are moments where we're just have to

644
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: both have to drown out the noise.

645
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's my buddy. Bit we're right or die together.

646
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: I love it.

647
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: God forbidding where to get hit by a bus tomorrow,

648
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: I'm done, Like, I'm good, Yeah, I'm good.

649
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: I'll get it totally. Well more French bulldogs. Live on

650
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: a commune with my girlfriends and all their kids, and I'm.

651
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: Going, yeah, yeah, yeah, You're like, no, I've got the one.

652
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: Thank you. I love that. I think that's so special.

653
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: And now a word from our sponsors. Girl, I get it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thank you even for saying it, because sometimes

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Speaker 1: when you're in this crazy, zany world, I think you

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Speaker 1: can forget that other people are dealing with the craziest,

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Speaker 1: zaniest parts of it. And yeah, there are just days

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Speaker 1: that I'm like, oh, I can't go on the internet today,

659
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Speaker 1: like this is kooky. A friend sent me something recently

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Speaker 1: and was like, this is so fucking dumb, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's like from some gossip site blah blah, And

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Speaker 1: I was like, first of all, why are you looking?

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Speaker 1: And second of all, I'm going to say this with

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Speaker 1: all the love I can muster, why the fuck would

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Speaker 1: you send this to me? Because I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to see it. I can go about my day

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00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: and not see this dumb shit. And the funniest part

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Speaker 1: was to me that like, there was all this speculation

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Speaker 1: honestly just about a dumb inside joke a friend made

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00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: to me, because sometimes if you don't laugh about something,

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Speaker 1: you know at the time you'll cry. And I so

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00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: badly wanted to clap back at this person and be like,

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Speaker 1: tell me you don't have a sense of humor without

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Speaker 1: saying I don't have a single cell in my body

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Speaker 1: capable of humor. And then I was like, what's the

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Speaker 1: fucking point. I'm not even going to bother engaging. But

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Speaker 1: it's like, it is so weird when you're just outliving

678
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: your life and people make a story out of everything

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00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: that's actually it's it's their story, it's not yours, it

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00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with you.

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Speaker 3: Reddit it's wild and you're like, wait, what I mean,

682
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: it's like cuckoo their hands. I'm like, guys, I'm exhausted.

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00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: I'm exhausted.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how y'all came up with these theories that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: wearing a blue sweater for three days in a row

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Speaker 2: and therefore like durable disease.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what is happening?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was getting bullied for a minute. Somebody was like,

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00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: your eyelash extensions are horrible. And then finally one day

690
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh god, they are they are.

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Speaker 1: You're like, you know what, you know, you could have

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Speaker 1: said it a little differently, but you did me as solid.

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Speaker 1: Redditors noted thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But for the most part, because I do comedy, people

696
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Speaker 2: are like, you're my buddy. And that's what's fun is

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Speaker 2: being able to talk about things that I know gals

698
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: are having private conversations with with their girlfriends, and then

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Speaker 2: being able to explain it on stage and to have

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Speaker 2: that moment where people in the audience like, oh, fuck,

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Speaker 2: that's what that's what we've been feeling. That's exactly it's

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Speaker 2: the community feels really good, and that's when you know

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Speaker 2: you're in the pocket. I'm like, you have thought exactly

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Speaker 2: what I'm feeling and saying right now, And I like

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Speaker 2: people to leave my show being like, oh shit, never

706
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Speaker 2: never thought of it like that, or or that was

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Speaker 2: right on the money.

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Speaker 3: That feels very good.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So how do you think about that? Because I

710
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Speaker 1: think from the outside, you know, I watch a special

711
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Speaker 1: or I come to a show and it's all I mean,

712
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Speaker 1: it's tight, you've got a tight sixty or a tight ninety.

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Speaker 1: But building to that and knowing when you leave a

714
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Speaker 1: show having a hunch based on audience reaction, what they're

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Speaker 1: going to walk out thinking about, how do you do?

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Speaker 1: To me? It feels like a great big math problem essentially,

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Speaker 1: like doing a special, how do you do the math

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Speaker 1: and figure out I want to talk about this. I

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Speaker 1: want to hit this topic, but I want to do

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Speaker 1: it in a way that'll make them think, maybe not

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Speaker 1: make them mad, Like what's the recipe for you this far?

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Speaker 2: In?

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Speaker 3: It's trial and error too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when you're working a tour, I go out and,

725
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Speaker 2: like some people like to work, run five minutes, and

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Speaker 2: run ten minutes and fifteen, and then they build to

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Speaker 2: the hour.

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Speaker 3: I'm a sociopath.

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Speaker 2: I like to go out on the road with what

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess is probably ninety minutes, and then I

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Speaker 2: scale back from there and I'll start a tour and

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Speaker 2: you know, be running all this shitting clubs. But I

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Speaker 2: like to run the full hour and then I'll go

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Speaker 2: and separate those little bits and then run it like that,

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Speaker 2: which is not it's insane, but I think because I'm

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Speaker 2: an old theater kid, I only know how to work

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Speaker 2: in like full you do the.

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Speaker 3: Play, I do the play, I go, I.

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Speaker 1: Got It feels scary, but I know.

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Speaker 3: Then I scale back.

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Speaker 2: But you know, running stuff in clubs is the best

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Speaker 2: because I'm just out there and I'm all right, that

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Speaker 2: did not work, and you just say it out loud.

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Speaker 3: Nope, yep, that worked. Then I scale back from there.

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Speaker 2: But like for my first special, it was called Son

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Speaker 2: I Never Had, so I knew that the whole idea

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Speaker 2: was going to be about my relationship with my dad

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Speaker 2: as a kid, explaining who I was. This was the

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Speaker 2: first special for people to like understand who I was

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Speaker 2: out the gate if you were going on Netflix and

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Speaker 2: your like, who is this person? And I wanted to

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Speaker 2: explain my relationship with my dad, the humor behind how

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Speaker 2: we passed, and that was kind of like my first.

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Speaker 3: Little tea up for folks.

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Speaker 2: And then the special bread Winner was all about this like, okay,

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Speaker 2: now I've made it this over the top Italian wedding

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Speaker 2: that I had this thirty day honeymoon. How they got

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Speaker 2: into my head, all these things that happened, and I

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Speaker 2: wanted it women to walk away and feel like, oh shit,

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Speaker 2: we're feeling this too. And the next hour that I'm

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Speaker 2: working on, I'm talking a lot more about politics, which

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Speaker 2: I had never touched on before, and I'm just talking

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Speaker 2: about that, like, you know, that feeling as a Southern woman.

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Speaker 2: We're all sitting in this weird world and trying to

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Speaker 2: justify things in our brain and have hard conversations with

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Speaker 2: our girlfriends and while also going out there and you know,

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Speaker 2: like trying to make sure our extensions aren't falling out

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Speaker 2: and our tits are.

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Speaker 1: To our that's where we're you know, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we can do it all.

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Speaker 3: We can do it all.

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Speaker 1: We can do it all, honey. That particularly, I think

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Speaker 1: when you have something to say about politics, it's like

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Speaker 1: people suddenly think you're no fun. Yeah, they think it's

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Speaker 1: your whole personality. And I'm like, ye'ah, I'm wild, I'm

776
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Speaker 1: so fun. But I will absolutely, you know, take Mitch

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Speaker 1: McConnell to task over his trash policy. And I really

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Speaker 1: do believe. I think, especially when you are an entertainer,

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Speaker 1: a performer. It's because you love people. You love people

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Speaker 1: and their stories. You love being able to represent people.

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Speaker 1: You love being able to gather people. You love being

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Speaker 1: able to help people feel seen. And so when people

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Speaker 1: are like, why are all you actors so fucking political,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, because we have to be, because our whole

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Speaker 1: job is to love people and tell their stories. How

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Speaker 1: can I look at what's happening to people in the

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Speaker 1: world and be silent?

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Speaker 2: And also, like, my job as a comedian is to

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Speaker 2: take the things that are going on in the world,

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Speaker 2: observe them, and either help us work.

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Speaker 3: Through it, giggle about it, or go what the look?

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Speaker 3: That is my entire job.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and you know I've been doing this new

794
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: bid about how like a lot of Maga moms couldn't

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Speaker 2: believe that I didn't vote for Trump because on paper

796
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Speaker 2: I look like the typical maga mom blonde.

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Speaker 3: Hair extensions, you know, from the South.

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Speaker 2: Went to the University of Mississippi, and they had felt betrayed,

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Speaker 2: And I was like, whoa, what has happened here that

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Speaker 2: I was not clearly speaking up up enough for y'all

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00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: to think that I was voted for Trump. But the

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Speaker 2: reception is great, because I mean, you got again as

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Speaker 2: a pendulum swing, so you got to make fun of

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Speaker 2: both sides.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I say that.

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Speaker 2: There are moments where I'm like, God, because I live

807
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Speaker 2: in Georgia, am I gonna have to cage fight Marjorie

808
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: Taylor Green?

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00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 3: I may have to at some point, for.

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Speaker 1: You might have to. We might have to. She you know,

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Speaker 1: she was being insane the other day and I posted

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Speaker 1: something about it, and somebody goes, well, if you have

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Speaker 1: this kind of heat for her, where's your heat for

814
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Jasmine Crockett? And I that, honey, Jasmine's just matching their volume.

815
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: And she went yeah, and I was like, we're I'm

816
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: I in the year twenty twenty five. Am done going high?

817
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: I did it for a long time. I grew up

818
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Speaker 1: in the young Michelle Obama school of politics. That was

819
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: my jam. And you know what now, I'm like, bitch,

820
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Speaker 1: you want to go low, meet me in the gutter.

821
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Speaker 1: I've come from a long line of Italians in New Jersey.

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00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: Meet me in the gutter. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: I feel the exact same way. And that's, you know,

824
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: my job in comedy. I'm like, I'm talking about the

825
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: things that again, all these girls are talking about other

826
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Speaker 2: their country clubs. So they're talking about, you know, at

827
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Speaker 2: the PTA meeting whatever. I know, I'm going to make

828
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Speaker 2: you sit and have a and think about it in

829
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Speaker 2: a different way because we have to like, why are

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Speaker 2: we not as women having these conversations.

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Speaker 1: No, we have to, Oh, this is why we really

832
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Speaker 1: need to do our show.

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Speaker 3: We need to do our show.

834
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Speaker 1: We have to do a show.

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Speaker 3: We've got to. Let's do it. We'll get okay for.

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Speaker 1: The friends at home. Sometime times I forget that people

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Speaker 1: listen to this and I'm like, oh good, we're just

838
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: having like a glass of wine on zoom and we

839
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: don't have wine currently listeners, but I wish we did.

840
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: It's a little too early, but you know, next time

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Speaker 1: I am talking about how it was. I think two

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Speaker 1: years ago at the big Elton John Aids Foundation fundraiser

843
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Speaker 1: that coincides with the Oscars, we'd had a couple of

844
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: tequilas and decided we were going to do a TV

845
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Speaker 1: show together, and we got to figure out what.

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Speaker 3: It is we with it.

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Speaker 1: We have no idea what the show is, but we

848
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Speaker 1: were like, oh, we want to go to work together

849
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Speaker 1: every day.

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Speaker 2: This would be fun and my favorite thing is figuring

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Speaker 2: out that creative And I think because I write stand up,

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Speaker 2: I love the pitch like your old school actress where

853
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Speaker 2: you go in and probably crush an audition.

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Speaker 3: I am so bad at audition.

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Speaker 2: I can let me do the sales of it, let

856
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Speaker 2: me go in and razzle dazzle the network, and then

857
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Speaker 2: just show up on set.

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Speaker 3: But don't make me audition.

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Speaker 1: Auditions are also so weird because your whole job as

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Speaker 1: an actor is to make a space and a relationship

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Speaker 1: feel like yours, and then you do an audition like

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Speaker 1: this in front of a fucking sheet with no human

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Speaker 1: and someone who the whole time they're reading with you

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Speaker 1: god bless the casting director, but like they're reading on

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Speaker 1: the paper, and you're like, but the whole way I

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Speaker 1: do my job is to connect with someone and we

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Speaker 1: have a beat and we have a little high moment

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Speaker 1: and then we both giggle, and none of that can

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Speaker 1: happen in an audition.

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Speaker 2: No, And I have this theory that I swear by

871
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: that all of my self tapes that I and I'm

872
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: always reading with like my husband or my mom and

873
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 2: my basement, I'm like, these never got to the casting director.

874
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: They never got to the producers. They are sitting in

875
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: a vault somewhere and at my funeral, it will be

876
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: like like a.

877
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 3: Cruel, practical joke. These auditions.

878
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: That's your episode of punk. Yeah.

879
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 3: Like that sweet sweet girl she thought she was auditioning.

880
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: That sweet girl from Mississippi.

881
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 3: That's sweet Southern Bale.

882
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: She thought she was auditioning, but really we were just

883
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: pulling one big prank on her.

884
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: And I'm like, God, why am I not?

885
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, jobs, You're like, what the fuck is

886
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 1: going on here?

887
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: Yes?

888
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, I have this question for you

889
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: because we don't know what our show is going to be,

890
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: but I do think about things I want to watch

891
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: you do, which is you know, fun for me as

892
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: a fan and a friend.

893
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: I love this.

894
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: What award show would you want to host if you could?

895
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: Because I think you need to host an award show?

896
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: Well, I am a TV nerd, so I would love

897
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: to do the Emmys. Ooh okay, yeah, I mean Nikki

898
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: did an incredible job at the Globe.

899
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: She was so good.

900
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: Conan was phenomenal at the Oscars. He's coming back. But

901
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 3: I think the Emmys would be really really fun.

902
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: Oh and Chelsea crushes what did she do the sad

903
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 2: Yes critics Choice critics Choice, Yes. I think doing the

904
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: Emmys would be insane. Really Okay, I've been, you know,

905
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: doing some of the red carpet stuff allah Joan Rivers,

906
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: but I'm really only getting my footing there because it's

907
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: it's that is actually out of performing ninety minutes of memory,

908
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 2: I stand up being you know, doing sales pitches whatever.

909
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: The podcasting. Doing the Red Carpet is the hardest gig

910
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 2: I have ever had.

911
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: It is so scary to me thinking about that.

912
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: You have a producer in your ear, you're doing quick

913
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: changes live on air, you have cards, their publicists are

914
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: saying don't ask them about this, or ask them about this,

915
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: or make sure you hit this note. And you have

916
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: thirty seconds to talk to Arianna Grande, who's just like

917
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: floating through the air because she's such an angel, and

918
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: you're like, what is happening? Yeah, a gnarly gig. People

919
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: don't realize how hard doing live hosting is.

920
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't know how you do it. I'm

921
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: endlessly impressed. This is kind of my world. I like

922
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: to cozy and have a deep talk and giggle and

923
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: you know, get into stuff. The quickness of a carpet interview,

924
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: like it stresses me out having to answer the questions.

925
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: If I had to ask them and do this in

926
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: short form, I actually think I'd have a panic attack.

927
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: I get I only done a you know, award season

928
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: for like two years now, and every time we wrap

929
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: and it's like and the you know, the Emmys are

930
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: live on NBC and I hear that and they're like,

931
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: can you collapse?

932
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 3: I literally hit the deck.

933
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: And half the time I'm wearing a pair of birkin

934
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: stocks because I'm taller than every guy in.

935
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: Hollywood, so I have to like amazing, you know, they're

936
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: oadstanding on an apple box and I'm like down on

937
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: the ground and I'm just like, somebody get me a

938
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 3: glass of white wine. I can't.

939
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: That was the wildest three hours. And yeah, it's it's

940
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: an adrenaline rush. It is really wild. Yeah, I kind

941
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: of find my flooding there with being more funny and

942
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: being myself. But you're also like, okay, I've got to

943
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: hit I gotta hit the notes, you know.

944
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a time. Oh my god, I'm blessed.

945
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: Let's manifest the Emmys. I think you need to do

946
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 1: another drawing.

947
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like event.

948
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: And now now I will say so in my office

949
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: and you can't see all them. I have all my

950
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 2: vision boards up.

951
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: Is that what those are?

952
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

953
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: So back here is like a vision board and I

954
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: have them all around on the other sides of my office.

955
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: It is really wild.

956
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: I started vision boarding back in twenty eighteen, and I

957
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: did it one day. I was hungover. It was New

958
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 2: Year's Day. I saw somebody do it on Instagram.

959
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 3: My husband was watching football.

960
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to take a gummy and

961
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to make some vision boards because I'm visual

962
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 2: and I like to scrap book and doodle.

963
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: You know.

964
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: A couple of years later everything started to pop off.

965
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: So now I've made the early thing where I make

966
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: these vision boards and it's not you know. All I

967
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: do is I basically have this conversation with myself. What

968
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: do I want? What do I want the future to

969
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: look like? What am I asking of myself? What am

970
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: I asking the universe to connect for me? And it

971
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 2: is wild, like the things that have come true by

972
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: making these vision boards.

973
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: Wait, I love that. Can I come over and make

974
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: one with you?

975
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: Yes?

976
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm so into this.

977
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: I'm doing a.

978
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: Comedy cruise here in two weeks where I'm taking a

979
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: bunch of fans on an Origin cruise ship and we're

980
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: doing a vision board party. I'm like, what I'm telling you,

981
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: if you write it down, will come true. No.

982
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: My friend Skuy says this all the time. We did

983
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: a show together a couple of years ago and I

984
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: was planning something on Pinterest and the thing I planned

985
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: looked exactly like the Pinterest board, but better. And she

986
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: was like, do you not understand when you're helping a

987
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: friend design a house on Pinterest, or you're doing these

988
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: mood boards that you make for characters you're vision boarding.

989
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: She was like, look at how powerful you are at manifesting.

990
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: You actually have to start applying that to you and

991
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: what you want, not just to what you're helping create

992
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: out in the world. And I was like, oh my god.

993
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm so inspired by her, and I'm also

994
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: like a little scared, so I want to try, No,

995
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: do it.

996
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: There's nothing to be scared about.

997
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: I mean you, to me, it's a conversation with your

998
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: inner self saying what do I expect from myself in

999
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: this life?

1000
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: It's not just about putting fancy.

1001
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: Cars and big houses, and you know, I went up

1002
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: not go do this, but man, dammit, I've I've had

1003
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: things check off the vision board down like throw pillows

1004
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: on a couch where I'm like, oh shit, I have

1005
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: those chairs, I have that lamp, Like what is this?

1006
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: That is so funny?

1007
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,479
Speaker 2: But I really it's all also too, I think because

1008
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: when I was a little kid, you know, back to

1009
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: the book that I wrote in the fourth grade or

1010
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: the story that I was saying, I always saw a

1011
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: vision of what exactly I wanted things to look like

1012
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:20,959
Speaker 2: and what I want.

1013
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: And so it's always been that.

1014
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: Kind of quiet voice inside of myself that's like, no,

1015
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: you know what path you want to be on, you

1016
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: know what you want, you know what you're expecting of

1017
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 2: your life. I love that, and I have a visual reminder.

1018
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: I look up at the wall and I'm like, oh, yeah, no,

1019
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: you know what. I need to get back to that

1020
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 2: because that's something that I put down as a goal

1021
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: for myself.

1022
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Yes, that's really that feels powerful.

1023
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: Is powerful, you know.

1024
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: And now a word from our wonderful sponsors. It's interesting

1025
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: too to think about that drawing you showed me at

1026
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: the top of the hour. You know, you standing on

1027
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: a stage in front of an audience. It's it's what

1028
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: you do. I mean, you're on tour right now. You're

1029
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: on your bamboozled tour.

1030
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: On the bamboozled tour. Yeh.

1031
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: By the way, that's probably why I said that word earlier.

1032
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: It's like, in my subconscious, what is this tour about

1033
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: for our friends at home? And then I just really

1034
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: want to know what your favorite part of touring is

1035
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: this tour is about?

1036
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: Oh god, what is it about? It's about everything. Oh,

1037
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: there's a lot in that.

1038
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, we got a hair flip.

1039
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: She's thinking, it's about how one I'm constantly bamboozling myself.

1040
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: As women, we have a lot of outside noise that

1041
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: we end up getting bamboozled about. The dream is a bamboozlement.

1042
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: The expectations on us are a bamboozlement. And I just

1043
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: find a really ridiculous way of connecting how we have

1044
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: also done this to ourselves. And my favorite part of touring, honestly,

1045
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: stand up is so fun because you know, in this business,

1046
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: we developed which we are going to develop our show,

1047
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: but we dive bos. You have to wait for so

1048
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: many yeses, and you hear so many news stand up

1049
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: is immediate. I get up on stage no in ten seconds,

1050
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: whether they like it or they don't.

1051
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 3: And I love that check of let's go.

1052
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: And when you get that energy from a live audience,

1053
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: there is nothing better. Like I always said, I want

1054
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: to do multi cams because I you know, I'm a

1055
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: theater kid. I want that live audience. I want that

1056
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: immediate reaction. It feels so good to.

1057
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I would love that.

1058
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: And be with my friends is great. I've got a

1059
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: great grew around me and we just have fun. And

1060
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: like to say that I've seen America, I've toured in Australia.

1061
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: Like to go to places, touch people's hands and be like,

1062
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: you know, thank you for being here. There's just the

1063
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: human connection is incredible.

1064
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 3: It really love that.

1065
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: I love that. And then what was the impetus behind

1066
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: the podcast? Because absolutely not. It is comedy in a way,

1067
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: but it's also a place I think where you get

1068
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: to be your whole self, if not just your performer self.

1069
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: What led you to starting that and why in the

1070
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: world did you start a podcast while you're also on

1071
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: a tour. Do you just love to torture yourself.

1072
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: I really do listen. My entire team is like, shall

1073
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: we put too much on our plate? And again I

1074
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: bamboozled myself. The podcast I started years ago because I

1075
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: wanted to have this like call to action. Okay, people

1076
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: could call in and then I would give them like

1077
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: horrific unsolicited life advice. I listen to some other podcasts

1078
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: where they're actually like trying to fix people's problems.

1079
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, if you call in, I'm going to

1080
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: give you a sarcastic response, Oh my god. Love. And

1081
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 3: then it's also.

1082
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: I mean, my therapist would say, like, again, you're over

1083
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: sharing too much on your podcast.

1084
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 3: But it is just a it's almost like a brain

1085
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 3: dump for me.

1086
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: Every week I hear what other people are going through,

1087
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 2: I brain dump what I'm going through, and it's just

1088
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 2: such a part of my week where I'm giggling to myself.

1089
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 3: I'm my hour straight at just.

1090
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 2: The insanity of humanity of yeah us just trying to

1091
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 2: get through each day and so much joy. But am

1092
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: I doing a lot? Yes, Yes, I am doing a lot.

1093
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 2: I am doing a lot right now.

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00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to come and give bad advice on

1096
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: your podcast. That feels so fun.

1097
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: Love to have you, I please on the podcast we

1098
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: would love Oh I love that.

1099
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: Years ago, I did Anna Faris' podcast and we got

1100
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: a really sweet question from someone and yeah, we were

1101
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: trying to like give great advice. But I also think

1102
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: purposefully giving ridiculous advice feels fun.

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00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1104
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, sometimes there are a lighthearted moment or

1105
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: like tender moments and I've cried so yeah on this

1106
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: podcast by myself, where I listen back and I'm like.

1107
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what did I have a breakdown?

1108
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: Less?

1109
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: But you know, it's all about human connection and the

1110
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: fact totally believe and trust me with their stories.

1111
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 3: It's funny, though. I do tell the girl is all

1112
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: the time.

1113
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, y'all, if you have done something illegal,

1114
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: do not call into the podcast when you're drunk and

1115
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: then let us know. Oh because I will delete it.

1116
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: But quit telling me where the bodies are buried.

1117
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got to protect yourselves a little bit. Ladies.

1118
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well you are.

1119
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: So known, I mean not just on the show, everywhere

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00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 1: for your for your hot takes. What's your hottest take

1121
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: this week?

1122
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 3: What do you got? What's my hottest take?

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00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 2: Well, listen, My hottest take this week is the world

1124
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: on fire and we are just trying to keep our

1125
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: head above water. So every day, my hottest take is

1126
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: protect your mental well being, because if you consume shit

1127
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: all day long, it will make you nuts. And we

1128
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 2: still have to live each day to the fullest because again,

1129
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 2: like you said earlier, life is short, but it's also

1130
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: very long. So yeah, the best you can with the

1131
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: people around you and take care of the bele that

1132
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: you love. We're not going to fix everything tomorrow. But

1133
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: I've had moments where I will consume so much and

1134
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 2: it will make me spiral and it will be crazy,

1135
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: and I'll watch something backstage and then I'm like, Okay,

1136
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 2: now i gotta go back on stage and make everybody

1137
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 2: feel positive and giggle. And I have to take moments

1138
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: where I'm like, I got to tune it out for

1139
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: a minute, you know.

1140
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's got to take your their mental health.

1141
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm learning to do the same. And i

1142
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: feel like I've also finally hit a point where I'm like,

1143
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm guys, admittedly, I'm not an expert at everything. No

1144
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: one is.

1145
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 3: I am not.

1146
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 1: I am no longer willing to feel pressured into having

1147
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: a take if I'm like, this is not my job.

1148
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: It's just not my job. I'm going to do the

1149
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: best I can, and there will be mental health breaks

1150
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: and there will be days when I don't do this.

1151
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: And even for me, something I've tried to do consciously

1152
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: lately is I do the you know, the signal boosting,

1153
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: the news sharing that do you know about this? Call

1154
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: your senators about that, this bill is up? This is

1155
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: really important. I'm sharing all that stuff more like a broadcaster.

1156
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm sharing it in my stories every day, so it's timely.

1157
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: But I'm really trying to keep what I put it

1158
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: up on a grid happy.

1159
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I.

1160
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: Feel like we need it. And for me, beginning to

1161
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: separate and balance my life, sharing is going to be

1162
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: my life and the news shit, I'm going to share

1163
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: like the news it's on and if you miss it,

1164
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: go find it somewhere else.

1165
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's how I feel too as a comic,

1166
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: like I have to we have to talk about these

1167
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: uncomfortable conversations and I want you to leave laughing, and

1168
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: also like it makes you think, you know, it's even

1169
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: in comedy, it's topical, and you have to keep moving

1170
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: and things are changing rapidly every day. But there are

1171
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: moments where I'm just like, all right, we're going to

1172
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 2: say it, we're gonna giggle, we're gonna pull it apart,

1173
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: we're going to figure it out, and then we're going

1174
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: to put it to bed and we have to walk

1175
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 2: away and just be like, we're gonna make it, We're.

1176
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 3: Gonna be okay exactly, We're all gonna go nuts.

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00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and I think balance in general, like that's

1178
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: something I'm really working on. I'm really working on understanding

1179
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: that I have an irrational sense of time. I really

1180
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: think I can get way more done in a day

1181
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: than as humanly possible. So I'm working on bringing down

1182
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: my bamboozling of myself that I'm trying to bring down

1183
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: the volume on the daily to do list so that

1184
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 1: I can actually be better at the things I'm doing.

1185
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: I love that one of the things on my vision

1186
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 2: board was like it says less stressed, RESTful, and what

1187
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: does it say, Oh, replenished. Because I realized love a replenished,

1188
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 2: love a replenish I would burn myself out so bad

1189
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: and say yes to everything, and then one shitty friend,

1190
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: I'm a shitty wife, I'm in a bad mood when

1191
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: I come home, and I was like, what are we

1192
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: doing here if I don't actually start physically taking care

1193
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: of myself saying yes, and you know, yeah, some people

1194
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 2: may call me a grandma some days because I can't

1195
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: go out and do all the things I used to do,

1196
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I would.

1197
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: Well take care of myself.

1198
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: So then when we spend my love language's quality time,

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00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 2: I want to be in a good mood and be

1200
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 2: there for you and not be just a burnt out

1201
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: bitch all the time.

1202
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I don't want to sit at dinner feeling

1203
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: like a shell of a human. Yes, is that do

1204
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: you think that recalibration? Would you say that right now?

1205
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: That's your work in progress?

1206
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: Or is this someone I sent my work in progress?

1207
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 2: And then, you know, I feel we are all obviously

1208
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: in this rat race of this industry and things are changing.

1209
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: And you know I said or you mentioned earlier like

1210
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: oh I was a late bloomer.

1211
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 3: Well I'm still.

1212
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: I turned thirty eighth this year, and there's things that I

1213
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: have to get done before I can have a family

1214
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: and I can do all these things. So it's finding

1215
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: these moments where it's like it's all going to happen.

1216
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 2: Take a deep breath.

1217
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 3: But again, I can't.

1218
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: Be the star or show up to the gig if

1219
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 2: I am a shell of a human, I can't do it.

1220
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: So I really had to take moments and have hard

1221
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: conversations with myself where it's like, hey, you got to

1222
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 2: be selfish for a minute, whether people get upset with

1223
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 2: you or not, you need to be selfish and take

1224
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: care of yourself. Yes, or there will be nothing, like

1225
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 2: we will have no career.

1226
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: There'll be nothing left. Yeah, yeah, I love that. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think to your point, women, the world wants to

1228
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: bamboozle us, and we do it to ourselves. And I

1229
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: think anytime we can sit down and really just say

1230
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: this is what I need, it's a big deal.

1231
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: One. And the pressure that we put on ourselves, the

1232
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 2: pressure that the outside world puts on us, whether you're

1233
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: a stay at home mom.

1234
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 3: Whether you're a fortune five hundred early, we're supposed to

1235
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: do it all.

1236
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I have a whole twenty minute bit about

1237
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: our cortisol Like it's it's like everyone's cortisols through the

1238
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 2: fucking roof.

1239
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 3: And nobody knows your cortisol is and.

1240
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: Then on top of that, you go to the doctor

1241
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: and they can't figure out your hormones. I'm like, how

1242
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: are we all this stressed, sweaty, exhausted while also having

1243
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: insomnia and none of us can figure it out.

1244
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: That's the bottle of wine conversation we're having next. But

1245
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: I love it. Where can people get tickets to your

1246
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: remaining tour dates?

1247
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: You can get tickets at Heather ontour dot com. And

1248
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: I'm serious, we gotta we have to get together a lady,

1249
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 2: I know.

1250
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 3: And figure out.

1251
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: I gotta do it. I'm gonna text youant me, beat

1252
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: me tweets, all right, I know where to find.

1253
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: I love you, adore you truly same.

1254
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make me so happy and I just really

1255
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: I cherish that I get to know you.

1256
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: My God, that's the kindest thing get for her. It's true.

1257
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: And you make me laugh. Bless you.

1258
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: You're doing the most. I'll tell you what.

1259
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: You're doing the Lord's work, honey. Thank you for today,

1260
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: Oh my

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Speaker 3: God, thank you