1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to you Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Josh Clark, There's Charles T. W Chuck Bryant, There's Jerry 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: So it's Stuff you should know. The Chinese Edition, right, 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: which probably isn't even hurt in China. Yeah, we say that, 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: and then we always hear from people like, no, you're 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: not banned. I get to hear you guys all the 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: time actually promote you for being such communist lackeys. They're like, 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: they send a guy to my house to read your 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: transcripts right at gunpoint. Uh, yeah, this is the China edition. 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: And you wrote this too, didn't you. Yep, just an 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: old one. Yep, you just dug it out from the 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: old memory banks. Yeah. It was on the list. I 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: think I just ran across it randomly and I was like, oh, yeah, 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: this one pretty interesting and think yeah, I think so too. 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: So um. One of the things that interested me was 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: I did it. I got to do like some historical 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: research on it. Initially, Are you familiar with the Sino 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: Russian conflicts along the border starting in the mid seventeenth century, 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: the uh roman Off Czars versus the Manchu in later 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: Ming dynasties. I'm more familiar now than I ever have 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: been before in my life, let's put it that way. 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: So but it did surprise me. I just kind of thought, 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, I didn't know much about Comy Heart Commy, right, Yeah, yeah, 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: I mean that's what I would have thought too, UM, 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: And apparently I did at some point. But now once 27 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: I started researching, turns out those guys didn't like each 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: other so much, and it it actually did go back 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: to the six hundreds for sure, where UM China apparently 30 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: didn't trade outside of China and UM didn't have any diplomats. 31 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: The emperor controlled all trade with with other countries, and 32 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: it was through a system of trip you where like 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: you give the emperor the best stuff you got and 34 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: he'll see what he wants to give you back. UM. 35 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: And the Russians didn't like that very much, so they 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: just kind of we're a little more tense, a little 37 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: more tense, not the best of neighbors. But then yeah, 38 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: after World War Two when UM Russia starts taking over 39 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: Eurasia and China follows of the Union rather right, thank you, 40 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: And then China follow suit with Mause Dun's Communist Revolution. Um. Then, Yeah, 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: basically this whole area was red, and that's how we 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: were taught to view it. Right, it's all red, so 43 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: it's all the same. But that's that's very much an 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: oversimplification of the geopolitics of that area. Yeah, like you said, 45 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: Commy Hart, Commy, that's kind of what I always thought 46 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: was that they were neighbors. They were politically aligned in 47 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: the broadest sense, so they what what issues would they have? 48 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: But as usual, it's like Nancy Reagan said, kill all 49 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: the commie He's like, God, sort them out. You remember 50 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: that Saturday Morning cartoons. Um, as usual, the beef is 51 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: in the land and neighbors. Oftentimes, whether it's a Georgia 52 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: and Tennessee fighting over a river it's water, or it's 53 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: um Israel and Palestine, there are a lot of neighbors 54 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: that say no, that that stuff is ours, not yours. 55 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: And that seems like to be the the heart of 56 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: the beef between China and Russia. So I think that 57 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: the the border disputes were actually a symptom of a 58 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:48,279 Speaker 1: larger thing, which was which was so MAW Chairman Mao 59 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: used to publicly deride the Soviets as revisionists, that they'd 60 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: abandoned the roots of revolutionary communism and it were basically sellouts. Interesting, yeah, 61 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: and he used to publicly say this stuff about him, 62 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: and the Russians would be like, we're sticky you now, 63 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: you're you're you talk too much trash, shut up, uh, 64 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: and he would talk more trash, Like he criticized um 65 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: Khrushchev for backing down from the human missile crisis stuff 66 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: like that, Right, it's really like poking them a lot, 67 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: and the Soviets, in retaliation withdrew all military and economic support, 68 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: and then they recalled all of like the scientists that 69 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: were over there working on joint projects, and the scientists 70 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: all left with the blueprints to whatever they were working on, 71 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: even if it was Chinese technology. So there was like 72 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: a lot of tensions, and it seemed to erupt in 73 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: the border disputes rather than it was over the border distructions, 74 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So what we when we 75 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 1: say erupt, we mean erupt with gunfire. And then uh, 76 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: the spring of nineteen sixty nine, some bad stuff went 77 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: down and marched. Specifically, there was an attack on a 78 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: patrol boat. Um what was the name of the river, 79 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: the Usuri River, and that's in the eastern border of China, 80 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: of course, and twenty four Soviets were left dead and 81 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: stuff got real after that. Yeah, the Soviets were like, okay, 82 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: it's like that, yea. So they rolled into the area 83 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: with tanks, they used missiles, aircraft and took out like 84 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: eight hundred Chinese and retaliation that same year, yes, only 85 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: losing about sixty of their own, which was a big victory. 86 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: And so they said, you see that there's more where 87 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: that came from, if you don't mind your peas and cues. Yeah, 88 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: And they were saying this to using the New York 89 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: Times as this like international mouthpiece, basically threatening one another 90 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: through the international press. China said, what are peas and cues? 91 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 1: We we don't have those letters. Well, they have cues 92 00:05:53,160 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: and peas well as you know. It's just a joke. Um. 93 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: So mouse Tong says, I understand that this. You're coming 94 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: after us now, Um, I think we should have a 95 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: plan in place because I don't want you creeping into 96 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: let's say Beijing, our capital with all your tanks like 97 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: you did along the river there. So here's what we'll do. 98 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: Six of the population, go red dawn and head for 99 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: the hills. Uh the other Um, here's what we'll do. 100 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: Let's all get to work building an underground bunker, but 101 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: one that can house of our seven million, which is 102 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: quite hit that that number was that about two point 103 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: eight millions something like that. Okay, they made enough for 104 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: three thousand people. It's not even close, but it's still 105 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: a pretty neat accomplishment that they created. Right. Yeah, and 106 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: this is um what would be become known as do 107 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: you know how to pronounce it? It's exactly like it's spelled. 108 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: I looked it up, so go ahead. Dixia Chang. Okay, 109 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: I thought that was Chinese for Dixie Chicks. I thought 110 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: it would might have been Disha Chang or something. But yeah, 111 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: I thought so too. That's why I was like, I'm 112 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: not getting this one wrong. I looked it up and 113 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't find it. I found there's I don't remember 114 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: the site, but there's a site where I guess users 115 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: submit and say what what language they speak naturally? Naturally um, 116 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: So then it will have like this whole list of like, 117 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, um Spanish from Catalonia or um like Spanish 118 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: spoken by Mexican person or Scandinavian or whatever. But if 119 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: you listen to all of them, they're all saying it 120 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: the same way. DIXIEA Chang. It's funny some people say shang, 121 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: but it's wrong in the uh in the office here, 122 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: I know people think we probably never look up pronunciations, 123 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: but we do. And YouTube has a lot of them. 124 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: Now you know where they will that little thing will 125 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: spin and reveal the word, and then the polite lady 126 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: computer lady will say it. But here in the office 127 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: a lot because it's not worth it to get out 128 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: the headphones for just that. So like I'll hear strickling 129 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: to the left or Holly over there the right or me, 130 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: and you'll just hear random computers all day long with 131 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: like Dixia Chang or manarchy. Can you just hearr words 132 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: kind of popping up and everyone's like, sorry, sorry, but 133 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: I think we all get it. Yeah, alright, so Dixia Chang, 134 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: And I mean we should say, we'll get to the 135 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: to the meat of this stuff. But an underground bunker 136 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: capable of housing three hundred thousand of Beijing's residence was 137 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: built because Chairman Mao got paranoid that the Soviets were 138 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: going to invade. Also, to a lesser extent, he was 139 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: worried about American imperialism extending to China. But really he 140 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: was worried the Soviets were going to either invade or 141 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: launch some nukes on his people. Um. It was like 142 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: my dad when we saw the day after exactly, except 143 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: he just put my brother and I to work, whereas 144 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: the chairman put I think it was three hundred thousand people. 145 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: I found that somewhere. Three thousand was how many people 146 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: it could it could house. I thought I was three 147 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: hundred thousand working. Maybe it was more than that even No, 148 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: I see what you're talking about. There's three hundred thousand 149 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: right there. But um, you know, women, children, men, all 150 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: kinds of people digging by hand. Yeah, we found this 151 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: really cool um blog posts from like two thousand and 152 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: ten by a guy named Anthony Tao Um or Dow, 153 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: depending on uh, I guess how you say it, um, 154 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: And he said that it was basically like an urban 155 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: exploration posts. There's a lot of pictures of this abandoned stuff. 156 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: It's really cool. But it turns out his relatives, including 157 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: his mother, helped build this, so that he includes some 158 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: of their recollections in it where they're like, um, like yeah, 159 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: we used to go to school. Then you'd come home 160 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: from school and you'd work like several hours building this, 161 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: like making bricks or digging or something like that. And 162 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: so this excavation was being carried out by the very 163 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: people who were going to use it as part of 164 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: this um this cultural revolution, this great communist experiment that 165 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: Chairman Mau was carrying out, like, everybody, just get to 166 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: work because the Russians might invade. And he said, very famously, um, 167 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: shen madong changji li yang, I'm not saying this correctly, 168 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: and then boo chang bah, which means it means dig 169 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: deep tunnels, store food, and prepare for war. He told 170 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: his population that, and that's what kicked off this thing 171 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty nine. He really like to get to 172 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: the point. Yeah, uh yeah, nineteen sixty nine to nineteen 173 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: seventy nine is when this was going on. And uh, 174 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: we'll take a little break here and tell you a 175 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: little bit about Dixie Chang. You know, everybody, if you're 176 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: starting your own business, you will find that it can 177 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: be difficult. 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So this you say Dixie, I'll say chang. 196 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: You say Dixie, I'll say chang DIXIEA chang terrible? So, 197 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: uh what lies underground beneath? About twenty six to sixty 198 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: feet depending on where you are. There are eighteen miles 199 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: roughly of tunnels. Supposedly it connects every district in the city. Yeah, 200 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: and for those of us who don't live in the 201 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: US or Liberia, that's thirty kilometers of basically underground living 202 00:12:54,040 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: space fifty two square miles five kilometers squared. And um, 203 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: it was calling an undertaking. Was as an understatement. It 204 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: was a big deal, requiring lots of hands. Yeah. So 205 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: they used a lot of the old city gates, um, 206 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: the city walls as construction material. But again they were 207 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: also making their own bricks and they weren't using like 208 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: back hose or anything like that. They were using shovels 209 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: and removing dirt with bamboo baskets and making their own 210 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: bricks on site. Um. And they constructed this this is 211 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: just amazing labyrinth of of not just tunnels, but also 212 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: they had bomb shelters. In the bomb shelter, they had 213 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: ventilation shafts that were designed to keep out um fallout 214 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: and contamination from nuclear weapons or biological or chemical weapons. 215 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: I guess they built a great wall. They're like, yeah, 216 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: this is nothing exactly. Um. They had recreational stuff too, 217 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: like a movie theater. I think a roller skating rink, 218 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: basketball courts. Yeah, they had a barber shop, they had restaurants, um, 219 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: they had if you wanted to get down in here. 220 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: This is kind of the coolest part to me is 221 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: there were about ninety different entrances um around the city 222 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: that were sometimes in parks, sometimes in a private home, 223 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: sometimes in a shop that you needed a black light 224 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: to read a special map on the wall. It's like 225 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: kind of neat when you think about it like that. 226 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah it is. It's like all the residents of 227 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: Beijing or clued into this this big secret, you know, 228 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: this official secret. Yeah, it is like a speakeasy, except 229 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: those places. Come on, didn't that kind of hadn't that 230 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: run its course? Uh? Yeah, Like they just opened one 231 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: in Atlanta right here next door to us. Where at 232 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: the City Winery. Oh really there's a speakeasy day? Yeah, 233 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: now there's a speakeasy downstairs. If you know the code word, 234 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: you say it at the unmarked door. What's the co Man? 235 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: New York did this twenty years ago? What's the cod 236 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: this week? Actually wrote it down. So I'm going to 237 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: a show there tomorrow night. They have shows at the 238 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: Speak even will know. At the City Winery. Um, I'm 239 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: going to see Blitz and Trapper my boys. Wow. Yeah, 240 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: they're doing like this acoustic storyteller tour. It's neat. Yeah. 241 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: Apparently if you go there and you say you know 242 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: Miss Violet this week, they'll let you in. It's I'm 243 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: gonna go down there and make fun of them and 244 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: probably get a drink and leave a big tip. Yeah, 245 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: that's what you gotta do. That's right. You're gonna go 246 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: there and it's gonna be overrun with people. I just 247 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: wonder if you go to one of these places, especially 248 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, like I get it. In New York when 249 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: they're supplying demand, they can literally say no, turn around 250 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: and go home. But in Atlanta, I would be like, dude, 251 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: come on, I don't know the password. Just let me 252 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: in the freaking building. And if they literally say no, 253 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: then they're dead to me. In fact, on the I'm 254 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: not gonna say I know Miss Violet. Oh yeah, you're 255 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: gonna test them, huh. I'm gonna say no, Miss Scarlett. 256 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: Let me know how that pans out. Well, Ms Scarlett, 257 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: I'll send you a text of either me sitting on 258 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: the sidewalk drink drinking. Yes, this, it's a substitute. I 259 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: used to drink the occasional forty in college, back when 260 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: you thought you were cool to do so because the 261 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: Beastie boys did it. Yeah, like, drink this swill and 262 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: it's totally hot after about the first like ten minutes. Well, 263 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: you have to hold it up around the neck. Oh, 264 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: is that the deal? Like Champagne I was. I never 265 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: got to the bomb because I was pouring some out 266 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: for my homies. That's pretty thoughtful of you. So where 267 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: were we speakeasies? That's right? Uh no, even further back 268 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: than that. Well, yeah, that this the complex. And by 269 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: the way, Dixie Ching literally means underground city. Yeah, like 270 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: that's it. You don't even capitalize it. Yeah, it was 271 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: never used because, um, the Big Apocalypse never happened. Well 272 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: not only that chair amount and apparently I didn't know this, 273 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: but shortly after he died, I think in the seventies, Um, 274 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: his cultural revolution seems to have died with him, which 275 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: was news to me because I thought that China was 276 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: communists to the core up until a couple of years ago. 277 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: But apparently there was a real opening of their culture, um, 278 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: like starting pretty much and slowly and incrementally right after 279 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: Chairman Mao's death, um and so I saw a bunch 280 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: of different stuff. This is part of the problem with 281 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: researching China without ever going to China, because like the 282 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: dispatches you read from the place where you know, they 283 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: just very wildly in the the accounts. And this is 284 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: a good example that I saw somewhere that um uh 285 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: they so Chairman MoU died nineteen six as saw that 286 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: by one they had the place open for tours and 287 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: it costs like ten Chinese cents a ticket, and that 288 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: you if you were Chinese, you could not even get in. 289 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: It was only for tourists. I saw in my own 290 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: article that they boarded up and forgot about it, and 291 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 1: it wasn't until like two thousand that people like started 292 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: to find their way in. I had the same problem. 293 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: I was trying to find out like literally the current state, 294 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: because I saw that in two thousand eight uh, in 295 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: preparation for the Olympics they closed it for renovations and 296 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: it's still not open um And I've tried to find 297 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: out like the most recent information. I couldn't. So I'm 298 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: going with not even myself. I'm not even going with 299 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: my own article, the article where they recounted that it 300 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: was ten Chinese cents a ticket to get in back 301 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: in one. I'm thinking that's probably right. So you're going 302 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: with that because it has numbers in it, right, this 303 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: thing is legitimate. All right, Well, let's take our final 304 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: break here and we'll come back and talk a little 305 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: bit about the rat tribe of Beijing. So Chuck um. 306 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: One of the first things that happened, whether it was 307 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: in or two thousand, was people started to move into 308 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: this area illegally. And at first I get the impression 309 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: that they opened up businesses and there was actually like 310 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: an official stretch like about a one kilometer stretch of 311 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: dixiea Chang that was open for tours like underground Atlanta. Yes, 312 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: But then the other like twenty nine kilometers were closed 313 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: off permanently and frozen in time. Right. Well, that kind 314 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: of stuff attracts people like moths to a flame, especially 315 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: like urban explorers. Um. And again, go check out Anthony 316 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: Tao's post last visit to Beijing's underground City. It's got 317 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: some great photos of this abandoned stuff. But over the 318 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: years there are people who have you know, worked their 319 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: way into like the other shut off twenty nine kilometers 320 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: and have reported back that it's just like eerie a 321 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: time capsulers like posters of Chairman Mao on the walls 322 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: with um slogans like dig the tunnels deep, accumulate grain 323 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: opposed to geminy. Yeah, pictures of it. It's pretty neat, right, 324 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 1: And then get this if you were let's say, like um, 325 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan had told us all this when we were 326 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: kids for the people prepare for war, prepare for famine. 327 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: It's kind of unsettling when they keep you on your toes. Um. 328 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of it that's like just this 329 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: kind of rotting time capsule. Because again, like you said, 330 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: it was never used, but then plenty of it has 331 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: been used. Yeah, And that that's I couldn't even figure 332 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: out for sure. These are definitely parts of that complex 333 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: where people are living. Yes, okay, I didn't know if 334 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: it was other shelters. It's both, Okay, it's both got 335 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: You're right, all right, So what we're talking about or 336 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: is the rat tribe or the sho zoo uh. And 337 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: it's basically about a million people. They don't know exact numbers, 338 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: but about a million people in Beijing have moved underground, 339 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: um about a million of the one million people who 340 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: lived there. Yeah, and if if you talk about a 341 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: population boom in there were about nine million people in Beijing, 342 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: now there's twenty one million. UM. That's a lot of 343 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: people and not a very long span of time. So uh, 344 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: it's expensive to I really don't know that like median 345 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: incomes compared to housing. But this article made it seem 346 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: like the only reason these people were doing it is 347 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: because they can't afford to live above ground, or that 348 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: there's just such a shortage, Like your your choice is this. 349 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: You can live above ground in a door rom like 350 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: room with six to ten people in the suburbs and 351 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: pay about what you would pay for your own room 352 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: below ground, which is about fifty to seventy American dollars 353 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: a month. Right, So you want to go a little 354 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: with six to ten people in a dorm mountain suburbs, 355 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: or you want your own cozy, little eight ft by 356 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: eight foot concrete room underground. A lot of people are 357 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: saying I'd rather be underground, and they're normal people, they're 358 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: not Um, it's not like a situation like, uh, I'm 359 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: trying to think of something comfarable. But this woman interviewed 360 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: a lot of these people. Uh and net Kim from 361 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: USC southern California. Go Trojans for our friend Brian Bishop. 362 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, congratulations to Brian on the birth of his child. 363 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah that too. So what she found out was that 364 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: as she suspected, these are computer programmers and waiters and 365 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: waitresses and uh barbaras and they are literally just mainly 366 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: migrants that have come there from the countryside to work. 367 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: And they're not weirdos. They just they're like, you know, 368 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: this is what I can afford. I have a job 369 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: above ground, and h this is just what I how 370 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: I choose to live because we don't have a lot 371 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: of options. So there's like the specter of MAO is 372 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: still around because apparently part of the UM the housing 373 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: code in China or in Beijing at least, requires that 374 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: if you are going to build like a building, you 375 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: have to build something between one to three stories of 376 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: basement or um bomb shelter below ground. That's still the thing. Yeah, 377 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: so um in addition to people squatting in dixia Chang, 378 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: which does happen, these people are going to the owners 379 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: of the building and saying can I please stay here. 380 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: I'll give you seventy bucks a month. Yeah, they like sure, 381 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: and even though it's illegal. Yeah, the owners are like, yeah, 382 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: just leave it, leave it under the trash can out 383 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: front and I'll come find Yeah, like I'm not using 384 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: that tiny room, right because these are you know, small spaces. 385 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: They're communal toilets uh and showers. You gotta pay like 386 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: fifty cents for a shower for five minutes, is that right? Yeah, 387 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: I didn't see that. Yeah. There's this um photographer Sim 388 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: Chi Yen based in Beijing and he has a collection 389 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: called China's Rat Tribe if you want to look at pictures, 390 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: and um, you know it's not there's a stigma to it. 391 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 1: First of all, a because it's illegal. They call him 392 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: the rat Tribe and be yeah, because you know, they 393 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: interviewed some of these people and the guy was like yeah, 394 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: my dad was like, son, no, you can't. You can't 395 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: live down here. And he's like, Dad, this is what 396 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: I can afford. I've got a job and I don't 397 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: want to live with ten people in a room and 398 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: there's no windows, it's dark. Apparently there's signs in some 399 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: of these tunnels. It advised people to go up and 400 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: get fun stuff like that. It's thoughtful, sure. Um. I 401 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: think one of the other reasons too why they're considered 402 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: like the rat tribe is in a lot of the 403 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: cases they're living beneath um fairly tony apartment buildings. So 404 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: the people above ground there's like a huge class difference 405 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: in the same like sprout of of living space in Beijing, 406 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: and the people above ground are not in contact with 407 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: the people below ground, and they do not trust them. 408 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: They're weird, they're different, they're poor, they're from the country. Um, 409 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: so they don't they don't communicate with one another, but 410 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: they know they're there. So the people above ground are 411 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: very suspicious of the people below ground. H Yeah, apparently 412 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: mold is a problem, yeah, because it's you know, undergrounds 413 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: kind of dank, so they have to work to keep 414 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: mold at bay. And I don't think we mentioned that 415 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: the original plan too, with Chairman Maus to grow things 416 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: like mushrooms, like things that you didn't need the sun 417 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: right to grow down there. You know how fast you 418 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: wed get sick of eating mushrooms if that's all you 419 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: had to eat. If it was me, it would be 420 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: one bite of mushroom later you don't like mushrooms, can't 421 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: do it? What if you put soy sauce and mayonnaise 422 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: on it? I mean I could choke it down. But 423 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: it's a texture thing for me. Uh yeah, you know 424 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: it's not even the taste. What about uncooked raw It's 425 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: almost got like a bit of a crunch to it. 426 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: I'll try one. Yeah, yeah, try like a white button mushroom, 427 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: little salt like lick at first. Put a little salt 428 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: on it. Think a bit. It's not like the mushroom 429 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 1: you're describing that that slimy texture doesn't have that although 430 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: wash it off first. Yeah yeah, you give it a 431 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: good scrub with your tongue. I'll bring you one. I 432 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: don't want to work. Actually, I have one here in 433 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: my pocket. I'm good, okay, pocket mushrooms. No you got 434 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: anything else? Uh no? Do you know? Oh? I do 435 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: have one other thing. Um. So they were a long time. 436 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: There were long standing rumors that they had built like 437 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: secret tunnels in this underground bunker Dixie chang Um that 438 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: connected to like the People's Hall and other government buildings, 439 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: and no one knew if it was real or not 440 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: until when the ten m and Square uprising happened, and 441 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all these government troops come out 442 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: of nowhere, flooding out of the People's Hall to quell 443 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: these protesters. They're like, oh, those underground tunnels really are real. Yeah, 444 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: And apparently there's only out of the ninety original entrances. 445 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: There's only a handful of those left. Yeah, because the 446 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: the the area where this was built beneath is the 447 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: called ken Mien I believe for kenyan Um, and it's 448 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: a very famous stretch of like shops uh in Beijing, 449 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: and it's been just recreated and rebuilt so much, especially 450 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: since right before the Olympics that a lot of these 451 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: olds are being leveled and there there to go the 452 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: entrances to the places and the fluorescent maps. So it 453 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: is in danger of being lost, but it'll still be 454 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: there for people to go find. Yeah. Go check out 455 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: the pictures. Pretty neat. Yeah. Uh. If you want to 456 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: know more about Beijing, type that word in the search 457 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: part how stuff works dot com see what comes up. 458 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: Press your luck. Since I said press your luck, it's 459 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: time for listener mail Ah. This was about the mining episode. 460 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: So it's been a bit but um, we always like 461 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: good information. So here it is. I've been listening to 462 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: your show for about a year now, been blissfully enlightened 463 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: on so many topics. Currently pursuing my master's degree in 464 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 1: economic geology. Whoa uh in the unlikely state of Iowa, 465 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: and I have a few friendly clarifications. On your mining episode, 466 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: you mentioned hard and soft rock mining, and we're unsure 467 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: of the difference between the two whether it comes for 468 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: the rock or the ore. The term soft and hard 469 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: rock mining relates to the hardness of the rock from 470 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: which the ore is being extracted, not the ore itself, 471 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: so that clears that up good. I think that's what 472 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: I said. I don't remember, actually, I think I hedged 473 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: and said it could be either one, so that was 474 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: right right either way. Uh So, soft rock mining typically 475 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: pertains to sedimentary rock, where's hard rock typically pertains to 476 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: igneous or metamorphic rocks. Furthermore, just finish your wonderful episode 477 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: on ice ages and giggled a little from your pronunciation 478 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: of Lois. I was always told it was pronounced luss, 479 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: and even though Lois is a bit more fun to say, 480 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: I just thought i'd let you guys know, keep up 481 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: the amazing work. Thanks for making my ears happy. And Megan, 482 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: that is exactly how you send in corrections in a 483 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: very nice, friendly way, and that's how you get on 484 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: the air, right exactly. And we we love our corrections, uh, 485 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: and we tend to favor the ones that are hospitable 486 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: because it's just nice in life, right. Thanks Megan, Thank 487 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: you for the demonstration. Top notch. 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