1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian, America is not ready to pay for a 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: three battery, not yet one and dominant Lands coming to America, 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: never looking back again, Coming to America the Car Doctor. 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Have certain major chain stores convinced you that all batteries 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: are supposed to be between sixty and eighty dollars. You 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: know what batteries can be between sixty dollars, They're junk. 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian the Car Doctor. 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five five five 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: six and now my country to the sweet land of Liberty. 14 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: The see he running. Hey, Welcome, I'm running into the 15 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: Car Doctor here at eight five zero nine nine zero zero, 16 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: here to take your calls and answer your questions. More 17 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: information about this radio show out at Car Doctor show 18 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: dot com, as well as podcasting. Also podcasting available at 19 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: tune in, i heart and iTunes dot com and also 20 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: down around at Google Play. How was your week? I 21 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: had a crazy week. In the shop. It was the 22 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: week of everybody last minute, O G, can you do this? 23 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: Can you do that? We had a couple of walk 24 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: in yesterday. I think it would I keep thinking it 25 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: would be a great setting for a reality TV show. 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: Husband and wife walk in about quarter four in the 27 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: afternoon and we're just finishing up. We're supposed to be 28 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: out of there by two o'clock, but we ran over 29 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: and I elbowed Danny and I said, here we go 30 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: watch this quarter for it. They're gonna need something that 31 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: could have been done two weeks ago, that they waited 32 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: to the last minute. That's the problem now and now 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: they can't go away or some But what I got 34 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: was something that I totally didn't expect. They walk in 35 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: and the husband kind of peeks in around the corner, 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: and I felt bad for the guy because I think 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: he was a little hen pecked. I'm not really sure, 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: but he uh he he kind of peeks in around 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: the corner and then he walks in and he had 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: a question and a problem about tires and he goes 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: on to explain it to me, and you know, can 42 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: you get me tires from my car? And I explained 43 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: to him that you know, it's kind of late in 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: the day and it's not something that we can do 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: right this second. We're getting ready to go home. It's 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's fourth of July. We're kind of winding down. 47 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: And then the wife started really well, kind of rating 48 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: the poor guy. You know, well, you see, I told 49 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: you should have gotten in here sooner, and and you know, 50 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 1: and then she explained to me what he was trying 51 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: to say, that he had a leak in the tires 52 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: for the past two years, ever since he had new 53 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: tires put on three years ago. Because she kept saying 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: he had new tires, when three years ago, then they're 55 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: not new, trust me, after they go down the road 56 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: once they're not new. You know. It's I wanted to 57 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: do the analogy of the but I couldn't do that. 58 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: It was family radio, and you know it just so 59 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: what ended up happening was it was a five minute knockdown, 60 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: drag out, you big jerk, and why didn't you do this? 61 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: And you're a dope, And um I just sat there 62 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: and handed in my card and said, listen, when you 63 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: guys figure this out, I'm open Tuesday. Stop buying, give 64 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: me a call and We sent them on their way, 65 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: but they weren't the only ones. And I'm wondering, is 66 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: this something new that we're seeing people? We're seeing people 67 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: wait till the last minute. It was absolutely the busiest 68 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: Fourth of July week we've had in the better part 69 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: of eight years. People were not prepared. Are you not 70 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: prepared to take your car out on the road. I 71 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: don't understand that someone called the shop oh ten thirty 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. They were leaving Friday morning. They needed to 73 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: get the vehicle in for a problem it was having. 74 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: When can you look at it? Well, I could look 75 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: at it next week, Tuesday or Wednesday. Well, no, we're 76 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: leaving on vacation. We need the car by Friday, but 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: it's Wednesday. You've given me twelve hours a day and 78 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: a half to look at something that normally you know, 79 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: who knows what we're gonna get into. And my point is, 80 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: are you really prepared? You know when I was, when 81 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: I was brought up, when I was raised and and 82 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: and taught the rules of the road of life, so 83 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: to speak. There's a couple of things I absolutely knew. 84 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: Number One, you you don't you always stand up when 85 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: somebody approaches the table and shake their hand and welcome them. 86 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: You always are polite and say yes ma'am, no, ma'am, 87 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: yes or no sir. You opened doors. You respect the 88 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: senior citizens of which I am now one and uh 89 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: happy to be there. And you don't leave the car 90 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: till the last minute of a holiday week to get 91 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: its service, because you know what, you've got to be 92 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: some kind of stupid. I mean, there's just no other 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: way to say it. You know. One woman actually asked 94 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: me during the week, well, since we can't get it 95 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: into you, is there anybody else you can recommend that. 96 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: I said, there's a lot of guys i'd recommend, but frankly, 97 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: all the good shops are busy. It's the fourth of July. 98 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: Well maybe I'll take one of the bad shops instead. Okay, 99 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: well then just call up and anybody they can take 100 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: the job today is a bad mechanic. And that's your 101 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: classification on how to make a decision, you know. And 102 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: I keep thinking, we're letting these people not less much 103 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: less dry, but reproduce and vote, and that of itself 104 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: is a problem. Zero nine zero zero run on aading 105 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: the car, doctor. I welcome at you in every one 106 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: of you today to the show, and thanks for stopping by. 107 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: I've got a couple of emails. We're gonna talk about 108 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: some car choices. But let's let's real quick. Let's kick 109 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: the garage doors open this hour. I just want to 110 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: make a comment a little bit later on, I want 111 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit out the Oblo Sport and 112 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: their tuner packages and more information out at the Oblo 113 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: sport dot com. We're gonna be doing some experimentation at 114 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: the shop at the plow truck. I thought I would 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: take I'll do it now. I thought I would take 116 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: the plow truck and put a tuner kid on it. 117 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: Maybe I could have the world's fastest plow ruck to 118 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: take a two thousand eight Chevy Silverado one time and 119 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: put a tuner kid on it. And what I'm what 120 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing is I'm remapping the operating program how the 121 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: vehicle will work. I've already gotten rid of some of 122 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: the bottom end blag. You know when I when I 123 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: come off the line that you know, not hard. I'm 124 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: not racing it, but just driving it normal. The truck 125 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: since New always had this, you know a little bit 126 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: of a stutter. I've just about eliminated it playing with 127 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: it with the mapping package with the folks available. I'm 128 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: using the uh um the in Tune twelve kit, and 129 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, the folks at Diablo Sport have been very supportive. 130 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: They have great tech support, and we're gonna be playing 131 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: with that and actually posting some We'll put some videos 132 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: up on YouTube and we'll talk about it a little 133 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: bit more as the show evolves going forward the rest 134 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: of this year. But I'm getting the plow truck ready. 135 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: I want to have the world's fastest plow truck this 136 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: way when it snows come this winter. And I realized 137 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: we're in July. Why are we talking about snow. I'm 138 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: just getting ready because I'm not waiting till the last 139 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: minute like the rest of you, all right, the because 140 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to wait till it snows and then 141 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: go okay, let me make the truck run right now, 142 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: because I'll just wait six more months. But anyway, let's 143 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Ed in Queens, New York 144 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: with some questions about getting rid of fluids. Ed Great question, 145 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help Great? 146 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: Next one? My question is two part question one on 147 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: radiator fluid and then on radiators. Regarding radiator fluid, I 148 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: recently purchased six jugs of radios so to it my 149 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: local Orilly's, to an auto zone and to it a 150 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: big box retailer. I changed the fluids on to non 151 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: automobile radiators and I put the used fluid back in 152 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: the jugs. I went back to the store thinking that 153 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to recycle it like I do with regular oil, 154 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: and they tell me they don't take it. It's I'd 155 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: call press Stone and they tell me it's a hazardous 156 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: substance and you have to contact your local city, municipality 157 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: or prior department. I speak to three different city municip 158 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: palities and fire departments and they all tell me they 159 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: take it back once a year. So my question to 160 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: you is what does the non professional shop, most people 161 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: who don't have their car service by a professional shop 162 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: like yours do with their radiative fluid. Because there's obviously 163 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: a lot of it being sold, and I can't believe 164 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: that everyone keeps it for a year, waiting for that 165 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: one day a year when they properly take it back. Um, 166 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: it's a great question, ed I can't answer it here 167 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: because if I do, everybody will start doing it. But 168 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: trust me, what everybody's doing is illegal. You want to 169 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: know why, You want to know what the answer is. 170 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: Most people are dumping it down the toilet. That's ridiculous, 171 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: and that's what they're doing if they have a sewer 172 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: system that go through the sewer plant and the sewer 173 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: plant supposedly, and I hear this from people all the time. 174 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: I'll tell you even how more ridiculous it is, because 175 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, your forward thinking here alright, a repair 176 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: shop like me, I've got to recycle it and provide 177 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: it through a reclaimer and go through a cleaning process, 178 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: and there's a thousand hoops we have to jump through. 179 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: An individual And I asked this question the better part 180 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: of twelve years ago, and I realized it's been twelve years. 181 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: But I don't believe the answer has changed. An individual 182 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: can pop a radiator hose on the curb, run it 183 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: down in the sewer, and it's not an issue for 184 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: them because they're an individual, not a business. I don't 185 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: know that to be true, and I'm not endorsing that, 186 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: nor am I condoning it. I'm not I'm not sitting 187 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: here and saying, hey, we should do this, endorsing Condon 188 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: the same thing. I'm not saying, you know, this is 189 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: the way to solve it, but it is ridiculous. The 190 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: steps we go through in the shop for fluids is 191 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: mind boggling. It's it's tagged and bagged. We actually have 192 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: And we actually had somebody from the local I could 193 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: call it local e p A come around one day 194 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: sniffing around the shop. Wanted to see what we were 195 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 1: up to, and you know, we took them around. I 196 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: showed them the E p A reports I keep on 197 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: site that there's no tanks in the ground or anything 198 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: like that. They were having a leakish problem across the 199 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: street and they were gonna start to blame us because 200 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: we're the dirty or repair shop. They were surprised when I, 201 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, had all my documentation and no tanks in 202 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: the ground, and um I even showed them and I've 203 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: yet to see this in any repair shop. We have 204 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: an oil filter puncher, so when we when we change oil, 205 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: we put the filter in the punch. We actually knock 206 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: a hole through it. It drains the oil out and 207 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: then the oil goes into the waste tank. For the 208 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: Waiste Oil Company to pick up and then we throw 209 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: out a drained oil filter which contains about less oil 210 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: than a filter that is not drained. But you know, 211 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: it's the day to day when people when you go 212 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: into a repair shop, and what people have to understand 213 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: is the cost of doing business to keep the environment 214 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: clean if it's being followed correctly. That's what the e 215 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: p A Hazardous material charges are for. That's what the 216 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: shop supplies charges are for. It's not for the owner 217 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: to build up enough money to go take a vacation 218 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: in Bermuda, which I've been accused of. It's there to 219 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: actually go. It's a purpose, um, you know, if the 220 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: business is being run properly. And that's what that's what 221 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: people don't seem to understand. Getting rid of fluids is 222 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: a real problem for you the consumer. Yeah, it's a problem. 223 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: And I I can't see the day when order parts 224 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: stores would be required to take the anti freeze back 225 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: because they'll just stop selling it. They couldn't manage it. It 226 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: It would be that big of an issue for them. 227 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: But many shops are required to take us back, Yes 228 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: they are. That's right, that's right, and and and and 229 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: repair shops are required by law in New York. I 230 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: know this for a fact, to take used oil back. 231 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: The problem becomes they there's a there's a gray area 232 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: here on is this really oil? Eddie shows up at 233 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: the shop with, you know, three gallons of oil? Eddie, 234 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: is this really oil? Yeah? Now I gotta prove it 235 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: or I gotta take Eddie at his word? Right? Uh, 236 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's an issue. It's it's almost like 237 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: the government wants to clean up the environment, but they 238 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: haven't taken the proper steps to to support that. That 239 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. Yeah, well, look who's running 240 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: the government. So we'll leave it there, all right, sir, great, 241 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: thank you, You're very welcome, and we'll see you soon. 242 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: Take good care. Eight five five six zero nine zero zero. 243 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: Run on any of the car doctor back right after this, Hey, 244 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: welcome back. Why don't any of the car doctor here 245 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: at eight five five five zero nine zero zero the 246 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: car Doctor seven number to help you solve your automotive problem. 247 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: Give us aqual leave a message. If we're not on 248 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: the air fast orry, we'll call you back and line 249 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: you up in Q. And I should point out because 250 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: I've been picking on him and while not picking on him, 251 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: but I've been noticing in the last couple of weeks Anthony, 252 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: look at me. Anthony's got his uniform on today. You 253 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: look good today, bro, Thank you very much. Would you 254 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: get that great looking T shirt? I got it from you. 255 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: That's right, So that's right. I forgot But you look 256 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: at you and Tom are just alike. That's what twins 257 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: Ebony and Ivory. Yeah, I noticed, that's right. And you 258 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: know we almost tripped over these today. You gotta get 259 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: rid of these guys. Is that is that? Yeah, I know, 260 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm working on it. You know. It's it's so for 261 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: everybody's for everybody's knowledge out there. We do have him 262 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: up on eBay and I just want to let you know, Tony, 263 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: it's nice to see it in uniform. And uh, I 264 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: noticed that Harry happened to wear the odd T shirt today. 265 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: How Come I can't get all three of you to 266 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: wear a run and any of the car doctor T 267 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: shirt at the same time. It's it's it's I just 268 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: don't understand because you only gave us one each. Well, 269 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: there are extras floating around the studio, so feel free 270 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: that um, although in Tony's case, he might take seven 271 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: this way, and there has to do laundry, so let's 272 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: get over and do the owns. Let's go over and 273 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: talk to John and from John from Biloxi, Mississippi, Chevy Cavalier. John, 274 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help pretty? 275 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for taking a call. We've talked about coming on. 276 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: We've talked about this car before, haven't we many times? Yet? Yeah? 277 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm keeping it running barely. Yeah. Well, okay, let's see 278 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: what we can do here. My compessor was not coming on, 279 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: so I hard wired to the battery. Okay, it's running, 280 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: but the croving fan does not come on. Okay, so 281 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: obviously there's refrigerant in the system. All right, there's a 282 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: couple of things you need to be aware of. There 283 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: are there are two switches and a relay in this system. 284 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: There's a low pressure cut out, which is the normal 285 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: cycling switch, and there's a high pressure cut out which 286 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: you're both in line. So have you looked at a 287 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: wiring diagram by chance? John? Okay, when you look at 288 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: that wiring diagram, if you recall coming off the heat 289 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: race control, there's a light green wire that runs out 290 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: to the pressure cut off switch and then that goes 291 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: light blue, and then it turns dark blue, and then 292 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: it becomes the going down to the compressor control relay. 293 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: That's the hot Have you found the compressor control relay 294 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: which is located in the engine compartment. Yes, it's on 295 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: the inside of the cinder, on the right side the firewall. 296 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: Have you sorted the wires out there as far as 297 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: voltage is concerned, I'm not sure which one to jump across. Um, Well, listen, 298 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: you've got four wires there, right, You've you've got a 299 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: pink black, you've got a dark blue, you've got a 300 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: dark green, and you've got a dark green white. Let's 301 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about the hot side. The 302 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: pink black and the dark blue have to be hot, alright, alright. Basically, basically, 303 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: if you were to run the car, undo whatever wiring 304 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: you did. If you were to run the car, take 305 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: a voltmeter. Go to the pink black with the hot 306 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: you should see battery voltage there, charging system voltage. And 307 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: if you go to the dark blue, you'll see hot. Okay, 308 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: you'll see battery voltage there that that's power feed from. 309 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: So if it's hot on that side of the relay. 310 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: Then the next thing you're gonna do is turn the 311 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: A C on go to the dark green. You're gonna 312 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: have hot there because you're already telling me if you 313 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: hot wire the compressor at work, So obviously I'm sure 314 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: you've got hot there. If you had hot there, it 315 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: would work. You probably won't have hot at the dark 316 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: green because my guess is the A C compressor control 317 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: isn't being grounded, which is done visa v the PCM. 318 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: All right, did you follow that? Basically, you've got four wires, 319 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: You've got two hots going in. You've got a ground 320 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: control in the dark green white, which when the dark 321 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: green white grounds at the PCM, that flips the relay 322 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: and provides power on the dark green, which turns the 323 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: compressor on. All right, if you're bypassing the compressor hot 324 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: wiring it direct, then what you're doing is you're bypassing 325 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: the PCM, so naturally the cooling fans won't come on 326 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: because the PCM is not controlling it. Okay, So I 327 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: see what you're seeing. Okay. Do you have a scan 328 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: tool of any type? No, I just have a multi meter. 329 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: One of the things that one of the things i'd 330 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: like to see, like you could go to that dark 331 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: blue wire. Let's go back to the other side of 332 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: the relay, the dark blue, that dark blue. If you 333 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: went there's a splice up the line there. It's uh 334 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: one twelve thirteen something like that. I'm trying to remember. 335 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: But if you go back up the line, there's a 336 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: splice that comes off that dark blue that goes over 337 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: to the PCM. That's the A C input. So when 338 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: John turn is on the A C request at the dashboard, 339 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: that provides a twelve old signal down to the PCM 340 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: or or voltage signal down to the PCM that tells it, hey, 341 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: John wants the air on the PCMN looks at the 342 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: rest of the power switches and decides, hey, should I 343 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: apply ground? Okay, So basically, if you had a scan 344 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: tool and you turn the A C on, you would 345 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: see change of state a C request on, a C 346 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: request off, and you can actually monitor it that way. 347 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: So getting your hands on older scan tool for something 348 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: like this, you probably get out the eBay. You'll probably 349 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: find something cheap enough that fits the need. It would 350 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: be interesting to see what the PCM is requesting. This 351 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: may have a bad PCM but you've got a test 352 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: it to be sure. Brought any in the car doctor. 353 00:18:46,040 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this Incurtacy, welcome back the 354 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: car doctor rolling along this hour. Thank you for spending 355 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: some time with me today as I get to talk 356 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: to you about your car problem. And I'm glad we 357 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: get together reaching every week like this. Let's get over 358 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: the line one and talk to Dallas from Lacrosse, Wisconsin, 359 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: two thousand, Lincoln Continental and some water pump issues. Dallas, 360 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car Doctor. How can I help? Thanks 361 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: for taking my call. Well, I have a two thousand 362 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: condo with a four point six leader in it, and 363 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: a little while ago, my water pump failed when I 364 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: was on the highway, and UM, be honest, I did not. 365 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: I thought just low cooling, and so I kept going 366 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: and when I finally stopped, UM, I had a decent 367 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: puddle on the ground. So I got car back home. UM, 368 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: and I figured out that the water pump had failed, 369 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: and so I had the water pump replaced along with 370 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: the serpentine, and right before I took it in, i'd 371 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: put in a new thermostat, and when I picked up 372 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: the car again, I got it back home after a 373 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: small errand and then I looked at the temperature gauge 374 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: needle and it just didn't seem to be where I 375 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: normally would see it, So I said, idled, and then 376 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: I slowly or I watched as the needle slowly rose 377 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: up towards the red line, and I went, that's not good. 378 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: Called the shot back. They weren't much of a help, 379 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: and so I did a little detective work myself, pulled 380 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: the old thermostat out and there was what I'm going 381 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: to say was um black gasket material stuck to the thermostat. 382 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: And so then my thoughts were, well, did that mean 383 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: that or does that mean that the radiator is partially clogged? 384 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: Because what happens is it'll heat up in the city. 385 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: But once I go on the highway and I can 386 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: keep it right around two thousand rpm s, that needle 387 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: drops right down to where it should be and there 388 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: aren't any issues. But once the engine heats up in 389 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: the city, you'll constantly, you know, go towards the needle 390 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: or the hot part um. You know, I can modify 391 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: that turning on the heater, but in the summertime that's 392 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: not really So basically it's it's overheating at lower speeds 393 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: in the city, but it's okay out on the highway right. 394 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: And now I've I've had it flushed. I've replaced the thermostat. Again, 395 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: i haven't seen any more of that material, and I've 396 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: tried to do a proper burping on the engine. But 397 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: what I've noticed is after getting a nice and worm, 398 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, I will check the upper hoses. Unfortunately, the 399 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: thermostats on the lower end of the engine and it's 400 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: not real convenient to access, but the lower hole is 401 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: I don't find any resistance at all. Well, the upper 402 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: hoses will have it, and I've done this um infrared 403 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: thermometer check and the upper hoses will get up to 404 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: but if I pointed at the lower holes, that's it's 405 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: approximately half that. So when it gets hot, I love 406 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: to get huh um rev it up to two thousand 407 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: r p m s, which drops the needle down, and 408 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden I get hot, cool and flowing 409 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: into the lower holes and it doesn't quite get up 410 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: the hundred eighty, but it's a lot warmer, and I 411 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: can feel a resistance when I squeeze the lower hose, 412 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: so um, I'm not sure if I've have a air 413 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: bubble in there, a big enough one that I can't 414 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: burp out of there with what I've been doing, or 415 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: if my radiator is partially clogged. Let's start here. Um, 416 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: what brand thermostat you use them? Murray? Murray is a 417 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: good stat stands a good stat? Um, make sure you're 418 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: using a good stat because I want to I want 419 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: to eliminate that part as a potential problem. I would 420 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: look at Murray and see where are they're making it. 421 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm not aware of Murray making the stats. For all 422 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: I know, STANT makes the stat for Murray and just 423 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: boxes it in their own brand. So you know, I 424 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: would prefer you. I would prefer to see a STANT. 425 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: Here's the reason why I'm brand sensitive on a lot 426 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: of my repairs, because if I know the brand that 427 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: eliminates half of my diagnosis, I know I'll still diagnose it. 428 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: But I know that. You know they've got a good 429 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: track record. And listen, anybody can make a bad part. 430 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: You know, nine out of ten times they're right. Ten 431 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: that one out of ten, you know, so you've always 432 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: got to be aware of it. But you know I 433 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: can't listen. I was at the bank this morning, I 434 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: made my bank deposit and they gave me an American 435 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: little American flag for Fourth of July, you know, in 436 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: the cellophane rapper, the American flag made in China. I 437 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: was like, really, this is this is this is what 438 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: we're doing, you know, and I'm looking at I'm going 439 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: it is kind of cheesy look and even though it's 440 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: my flag. But like so, I'm very sensitive on where 441 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: things are made and trying to put quality in and 442 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, stant Is, I gotta say stant has never 443 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: let me down in in the forty plus years i'm 444 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: doing this, and their stand superstets good stats. So that 445 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 1: being set, let's get past the thermostat. Um, you know 446 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: what brand? Water pump? Would be my next question, because 447 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: then I've got that I don't know. UM. I took 448 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: it to a reputable dealer, and when I took in 449 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: the material that I found stuck to the thermostat, I 450 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: did replace that one with another. Murray may even have 451 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: done it another time. UM. I showed it to him. 452 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: I said, this is what I found on my thermostat. 453 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: And before the whole scenario with the water pump, the 454 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: engine ran, as far as I could tell, perfectly. And 455 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: so he responded to me saying, well, we don't really 456 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: know where that came from. And you know, here, I'm 457 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: kind of how can I prove that it came up, 458 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 1: you know, when the water pump was replaced. Um, so 459 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm kind of left hanging there and he didn't want 460 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: to really get into it anymore, and so I just 461 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: kind of left the material with him and walked out 462 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: the door, and um, but the problem has been consistent. 463 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: Well but but the the shop that did the water pump, 464 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: did they say what brand water pump it was or 465 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: was it a Ford dealer with it a Lincoln dealer. No, 466 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: it was not a dealer. It was of local repair 467 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: shop not far from me. Because I had to get 468 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: over there without you, I couldn't hold any water. So 469 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: the question becomes, seeing this is the part where I 470 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: have I have an issue with this. All right, you 471 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: show up at my doorstep and I'm gonna have the 472 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: conversation with you. I'm gonna tell you, hey, Dallas, you 473 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: know what you're here. There's no cool in the car. 474 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: Obviously it needs a water pump. The water pumps fallen off. 475 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: You know, We're gonna start with the water pump, but 476 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: we gotta have the conversation about potential engine damage, potential overheat, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 477 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: It's not well we put a thermist that we put 478 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: a water pump in your car. You know it's three 479 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: d bucks so you, um, that doesn't work. There's there's 480 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: an obligation on the repair shop. Otherwise, don't take the job. 481 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: You know you can't. You can't cherry pick in this business. Either. 482 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: You solve the problem for the guy you don't. That 483 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: being said, Um, you know, could you potentially have a 484 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: cheesy water pump that has a slipping impeller? Yeah, anything's possible, right, 485 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: You know anything's possible because it almost sounds like you're 486 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: describing something that's not flowing cooling. You're not getting enough flow, 487 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: all right, You didn't have you didn't have the problem 488 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: prior to the water pump failure, So logically, you know 489 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: it's you've been playing with a stat you've been playing 490 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: with a pump. I don't think your air bound yet, 491 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: simply because you've driven it too much. What you could 492 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: try is, if you're not going anywhere later tonight, warm 493 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: the car up, bring it up to temperature all right, 494 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: and when it cools off, park it cool Let it 495 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: cool off. When it cools off, take the radiator cap 496 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: off the expansion tank. And if you can get the 497 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: nose up in the air a little bit doesn't take much. 498 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: We've got to We've got a six degree incline at 499 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: the shop against the fence and we use that. It 500 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: helps us bring cars in easier, so we don't have 501 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: to push him his hard Number one and number two. 502 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: When we want to bleed cooling systems will park them 503 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: nose up against the fence so the nose is higher. 504 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: Take the radio cap off, walk away, come back the 505 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: next morning it's burped. Wow, And you know that's yeah. 506 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: I've put the car up on a set of ramps 507 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: and I just, you know, let's change the oil, you know. 508 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: And I was even going as part. You know, people 509 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: would say, well, maybe have a cracked head, and I said, well, 510 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, there's no cooling loss, there's no discoloration of 511 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: the oil. I just did a combustion leak test. There's 512 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: the dice stays nice and blue. Um, so I've covered that. 513 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: And when I talked to somebody today because I wanted 514 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: to find a certain part of the Ford dealer, the 515 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: Lincoln dealer. She suggested that maybe I just had a 516 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: sometimes those air bubbles are really difficult, and he thought, 517 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: maybe I should do a vacuum fill on it, you know, 518 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: the purge kit. Yeah you could. I wouldn't. You could. 519 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't, but I, you know, at this point, I 520 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: think enough of its blood that it just sounds like 521 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: your listen, if was gonna overheat it. If it's gonna 522 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: overheat at low speed, it's gonna overheat it high speed 523 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: because the air bubbles and I tend not to see 524 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: I tend to see it. You know, one affects the other. 525 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: So my first thought would be, let's go back to basics. 526 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: Let's assume dirty word stats good. Water pumps good. Okay, 527 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: Let's assume they put the water pump in correctly. There's 528 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: no gasket material overhanging the inlet or outlet pump on 529 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: the on the pump itself, you know, maybe they put 530 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: the gasket in the wrong place. Maybe you know, there's 531 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of potential here. All right. Then does 532 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: the cooling fan come on and operate properly? All right? 533 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: So if that's there, um and you've got no restriction 534 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: around the condenser of the radiator. There's no there's no 535 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: piece of debris road debris that came up the block 536 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: air flow. It looks like it's flowing, right. Yeah, then 537 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: then it's the only thing left is a radiator. That's 538 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: that's that's all it's there. Um. You know, I didn't 539 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: want to have to replace it because I'm thinking, thing, 540 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: I really don't want to spend the bucks here to 541 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: get that pulled, only to find out that that really 542 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: wasn't the issue him right, And when the gentleman brought 543 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: it up today about that air pocket, I thought, well, yeah, 544 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: that lower holes, I'll come there isn't more resistance when 545 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: I squeeze it compared to the top ones when it's 546 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: when it's cold or um, well, why is it so? 547 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: Why is it so air bound? If it's that air bound, 548 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: let's try burping it, Let's try let's try maybe put 549 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: it up on the ramps overnight and see what that 550 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: does and leave the leave the overflow right, leave the 551 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: expansion tank, leave the cap off, and mark the bottle 552 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: and let's see if it drops. Yeah, okay, yeah, I've 553 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: tried to burp out a couple of times, and you know, 554 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: I've been following when I think is right, and let's 555 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: try let's try this, you know what it Since you're 556 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: like you like working on the car, go out and 557 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: buy a you know what else? Stay put. Let me 558 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: pull over and take care of some business and want 559 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: to come back. We'll go into this in detail. I 560 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 1: don't want to rush it. Brought any of the car. 561 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: Doctor will be back right after this. M looks smoke, 562 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: black cheese. Welcome back. Aren't any of the card I can? 563 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: Let's real quick it over to Dallas. Dallas, you're still there, sir. 564 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's troubleshoot this real quick. When the water 565 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: pump failed out on the road before the other shop 566 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: repaired it, or when the other shop repaired it, did 567 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: they put a thermostat in it? Uh? I don't. I 568 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: didn't ask him to do it, and I don't believe 569 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: they did. So. Basically, we had a we had a 570 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 1: vehicle that was running normal, everything was fine. They did 571 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: a water pump and it came out overheating slowly but 572 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: all right. So let's let's go on the assumption again, 573 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: dangerous word that it has to do with the water pump. 574 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: You may have compounded the problem by putting a thermostat 575 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: in it, and you can surely eliminate that by putting 576 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: a stand in it. Let's put a stand superstat in it. 577 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: Let's bleed the system. If you're so inclined, jump online 578 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: to O'Riley Auto Parts, get out to UH, get out 579 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: to o'rileyoto dot com and look for I call it 580 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: a yellow cooling funnel. They'll have and basically it's a 581 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: big giant funnel. It'll have the right adapters. Make sure 582 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: you get the right thread of adapter to put it 583 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: on the expansion tank and you can burp the cooling 584 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: system that way and that way. What that does is 585 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: that lets you fill the bottle all right. You might 586 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: have to you might have to pinch off the vent line, 587 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: but that'll let you fill the bottle, fill the funnel, 588 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: let it sit. That's that eliminates air, right, Because if 589 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: the lower hose is an issue, why isn't the lower hose, 590 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: why is that cold in the top one hot? That 591 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: sounds like a thermostat that's not opening to me? Why 592 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: isn't the third missed that opening? Did you? Did you? 593 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: Did you compound the problem by starting to change parts. 594 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: So once you get the thermostat resolved, now you've got 595 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: to deal with the original problem that they created. Maybe 596 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: there's an issue with the way this water pumps put in. Yeah, 597 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: I thought of that now, I know that when the 598 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: pump failed, you know, I I know I ran it 599 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: longer than it probably should have. And the engine doesn't 600 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: per like it used to. It has a few more noises, 601 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: like a little bit maybe ticking, and I got a 602 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: slight wrap going on now. But it's got a hundred 603 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: and seventy seven on it. But I drive it around 604 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: the city, not too much on the highway. Um, it's 605 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 1: been dependable, and I just would like to take care 606 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: of this. You know, if it's a radiator, it has 607 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: to be done that. That's the way it is, right, 608 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: But it almost sounds like and you know, I'm just 609 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: trying to nominate the other potential issues and some of 610 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: the other problems. And I think I would also recommend 611 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: somebody do a cooling system pressure test where you know, 612 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: pressurized the cooling system, pulled the spark plugs out, Let 613 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: it sit till morning, spin it over, disabled the ignition, 614 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: spin it over it, does it blow any coolant out 615 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: of any of the So let's see what happens that way. 616 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: I gotta go to Clock's gonna grab me try those 617 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: things before you put a radiator in it. Let's talk 618 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: next week and we can diagnose this a little bit further. 619 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm on any of the car. Doctor, We'll be back 620 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: right after this. No place to go, welcome back on 621 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: the end of the car. Let's jump back in. We've 622 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: got two more to go here. Aaron out in Washington State, 623 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: two thousand old Hilra with a fuel pump relay issue. 624 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: What's going on? They're on problems and being progressively worse 625 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: here over the last two months. Started out it would 626 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: die once or twice a week. Uh, leave me alongside 627 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: the road or my son alongside the road. Uh. You 628 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: did have to wait ten fifteen minutes and fire back 629 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: right back up. For what makes you what, Aaron? What 630 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: makes you think this isn't a bad fuel pump? Uh? 631 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: I haven't ruled that out yet. Uh. I'm just before 632 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: I dropped the tank and go that route. I just 633 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: wondered if you or any of your listeners have any 634 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: problems like this before, to save me from having done Yeah, 635 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: I mean I haven't seen any issues with regard to 636 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: relays overheating. Have seen more than a few issues of 637 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: bad fuel pump relays. I'm sorry bad fuel pump modules. 638 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: What I would tell you to do, and I know 639 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: on an oldsmobile it's tough to get in there for 640 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: fuel pressure test because there's no test port, But I'd 641 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: like to see what fuel pressure reading is. I always 642 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 1: do a pump pressure test and a volume pressure test. 643 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: That should fill that snapple bottle through the relief out 644 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: of the pressure gauge in thirty seconds, twenty to thirty seconds. 645 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: It'll fill a pint. And I'd like to see what 646 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: current draw is on the pump and current draw off 647 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: the resistance. If the up is failing and current draws 648 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: going up, that'll overheat the relay and create the problem 649 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: into itself. But the solution is still replacing the pump. 650 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: So I would do a little testing in the area 651 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: of the fuel pump, trying to eliminate that as a 652 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: potential problem, and we'll kind of go from there. I'm 653 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: sorry to cut a short. The clock's gonna grab me. 654 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: I got one more to sneak in yell if you 655 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: need more. Jeff Monroe, Township two thousand two, Subaru, what's 656 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: going on here, Jeff, I had an alignment dumb the 657 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: other day because I noticed some uneven fedwaar on my 658 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: front tires and I was wondering, how do you really 659 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: know if your car is an alignment without bringing it 660 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: into a shop. Well, you know, it depends now, General Tire. 661 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: The good guys at General Tire actually have alignment indicators 662 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: built into a lot of their model of tires that 663 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: you can look at them and it will tell you 664 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: before the tire wears how it's pickled, so to speak, 665 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: whether or not it's out of alignment. That being said, 666 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: a pothole can put a car out of alignment. One 667 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: too three. You can have an alignment done on Monday, Tuesday, 668 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: hit a pothole and it's out again. So it does 669 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: take some driver interaction in the sense of knowing you 670 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: know what you've got going on, as far as that 671 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: I hit a pothole or not. Um number one number two. Yeah, 672 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: you know, A good indicator is that the cargo left 673 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: or right. But there are alignment areas that can be 674 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: out that won't show in terms of the car pull 675 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: or go to the wrong direction. Basic rule of thumb 676 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: a good alignment every twelve to fourteen months is a 677 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: regular check depending upon where you drive, and that will 678 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: help promote longer tire life. Jeff, I appreciate the question. 679 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 1: The clock is gonna take met. The mechanics aren't expensive, 680 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: they're priceless.