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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys This is Media Match,

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Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, trumping wisdom and offering sizzling

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Speaker 1: takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Now your host new he.

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Speaker 3: Scrugs, Media mash Time.

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Speaker 4: It is Thursday here at the Star for the players

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Speaker 4: and coaches, but it's Monday to you and I. That's

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Speaker 4: how this thing works because the Cowboys will play on

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Speaker 4: Thursday at Detroit's Ford Field. It's media mash Time with

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Speaker 4: Nick Harris, the foot War Star Telegram hall of Fame,

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Speaker 4: Edward w f Aa, the former Cowboy Beat Right author.

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Speaker 4: And oh yes, they won the they won. They won

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Speaker 4: their rivalry game, Ohio State, the game on Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: It's not it's a it's a good rivalry. It's not

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 3: It's not the best robbery in the country. It's it's not.

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Speaker 4: It's a good game though, And I'm so glad that

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Speaker 4: I got to cover it and be a part of it.

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Speaker 3: I got to see it. But you know, it's it's different.

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Speaker 5: Man, because it's not Georgia Alabama.

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Speaker 3: It's it's not Alabama. Auburn.

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Speaker 6: I would the Iron Bowl on Saturday. Let me tell you,

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Speaker 6: I've been in a lot of NFL stadiums by now,

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Speaker 6: a handful of college ones. That's the best environment I've

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Speaker 6: ever been.

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Speaker 2: In in the USC.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 6: Where they playing it at Saint John Bosco.

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Speaker 4: I mean when it's and this is just me, when

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Speaker 4: it's in state, it's just different. It's different because you know,

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Speaker 4: you are Ohio and man school up norwith we ain't

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Speaker 4: going up north, even the commercial Eddie George, I mean,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna drive around Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Alabama, Man is right there.

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Speaker 4: It's right there, and the pettiness is real.

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Speaker 3: And being poor Auburn.

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Speaker 4: I mean they keep firing folks left it right because

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Speaker 4: they can't be beat Alabama.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's rough. It's rough. Now, you know.

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Speaker 4: My man Johnoper finally got got in Ohio state because

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Speaker 4: he couldn't beat Michigan. But I do think it's a

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Speaker 4: fantastic rivalry. But I don't view it as to me,

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Speaker 4: I don't view it bigger than the Iron Bowl.

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Speaker 3: That's just me. That's me.

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Speaker 5: It's bigger than Detroit and Dallas, you know.

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Speaker 4: Having Dan Campbell, former tabloids still sauty don.

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Speaker 5: Who we embarrassed this franchise last year one of the

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Speaker 5: worst home defeats of the Jerry Jones era, maybe the worst.

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Speaker 5: Thirty eight points.

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Speaker 4: I mean, how many form I mean, we had a

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Speaker 4: couple of assistants come back here and late on the cab,

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Speaker 4: but Mike Dicka did forty four to nothing on Thanksgiving Day.

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Speaker 4: Tom Landry, yeah yeah, Sean Payton came out here one

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Speaker 4: time and threw it up. I mean, will I tell

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Speaker 4: you when they leave here, they come back, they come

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Speaker 4: back looking for blood.

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Speaker 6: Wait till that Mike McCarthy revenge tour starts in New

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Speaker 6: York next year the Giants.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna be the Giants coach.

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Speaker 8: They'll only lose bout tenow.

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Speaker 3: I like Mike. I like Mike. I appreciated Mike's time here.

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Speaker 3: It's fine appreciated.

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Speaker 2: It's a perfectly solid football coach.

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Speaker 9: Mike.

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Speaker 4: Mike just wasn't made for this. Now, he wasn't made

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Speaker 4: for this. Jerry I was talking to somebody.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to go from the only franchise that has

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Speaker 5: so the owner.

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Speaker 3: Those were the things I talked about.

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Speaker 4: I was like, man, this guy came from a whole

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Speaker 4: totally different atmosphere into this thing.

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Speaker 3: And I can't remember which draft day press for it was.

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Speaker 4: So there's Jerry Steven and Mike McCarthy at the podium

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Speaker 4: and he ain'tbody asking Mike anything. And then then somebody asked,

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Speaker 4: Mike says, I do you know why I'm here? And

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Speaker 4: I think ourself correct because we know you're not giving

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Speaker 4: us anything. We know we know who's giving us stuff.

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Speaker 3: And I said it.

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Speaker 4: What I liked about Schottenheimer, I said, he reminds me

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Speaker 4: of reading Joe Torrey's book The Yankeeers. Joe knew how

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Speaker 4: to deal with George Steinbrenner. And because Shoty had been

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Speaker 4: here for three years, he'd seen but he saw everything

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Speaker 4: and behind how it worked that he's I feel like

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Speaker 3: I just never felt like Mike was comfortable.

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Speaker 8: They also feed his personality because you can understand how

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Speaker 8: it worked, as much as you want to instill not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like the radio show stuff.

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Speaker 5: Well, he also hasn't accomplished anything near like what Mike

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Speaker 5: had accomplished when he came here all right, true, true,

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Speaker 5: but he was grateful to be a first time head

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Speaker 5: coach after twenty five years in the league. Mike came

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Speaker 5: here as a guy who won a Super Bowl and

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Speaker 5: one division championships in Green Bay and hell one is

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Speaker 5: championship in Jerry's and Jerry's palace.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, key too.

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Speaker 3: To me.

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Speaker 8: The key has always been is you can be really

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Speaker 8: happy to have the job, but you can't acquiesce to

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Speaker 8: everything that the owner says and does. Now, however, you

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Speaker 8: don't acquiesce. You can actuates behind the scenes privately, you

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Speaker 8: can manipulate it, but you just can't be that.

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Speaker 5: Job can't be more important than winning.

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Speaker 8: Yes, job, yes, And Mike, I think got caught up in.

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Speaker 8: I need a job, so whatever, whatever, whatever, get the job.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm stuck in and I can't do nothing.

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Speaker 6: I think the these Hindrance two is five years in,

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Speaker 6: he was still treating this like it was Green Bay.

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Speaker 6: It's just not. It's it's completely different.

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Speaker 2: That's what.

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Speaker 6: I don't think he ever crossed that mental threshold.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. Shot, He's done a good job thus far.

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Speaker 4: And that's when you say that. And it's just my

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Speaker 4: opinion thinking that they did things the right way. We

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Speaker 4: won a championship. You're doing things the way you're doing

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Speaker 4: them and you're not winning anything. I've won a super

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Speaker 4: Bowl in your building.

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Speaker 5: You could not beat us in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: True, even when I was coaching.

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Speaker 4: Yes, right, So so I think that part of what

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Speaker 4: you're saying is is I think he had that that like,

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Speaker 4: they're doing it better than you.

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Speaker 3: Even when I'm here, they're still doing him better than

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Speaker 3: New York.

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Speaker 4: But clearly so if Green, if if the New York

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Speaker 4: Giants turn to Mike McCarthy, I would I would be surprised.

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Speaker 6: It makes sense.

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Speaker 8: It's the same type of atmosphere. It's a little bit

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Speaker 8: different because the owners not there, but New York and

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Speaker 8: all the things that come with being in New York

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Speaker 8: is the same type of you got to deal with

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Speaker 8: everything is a big story, even when it's really not.

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Speaker 10: See from a roster construction standpoint, it makes a lot

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Speaker 10: of sense from that. Yeah, I don't know how you

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Speaker 10: would deal with that media, That's what I'm saying. I

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Speaker 10: don't know how you would deal with it because he

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Speaker 10: he thought it was.

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Speaker 4: Rough here, Yes, and Bay and the fans didn't like him.

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Speaker 4: You know, those things are there.

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Speaker 8: So but this is a largely tough I think it's

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Speaker 8: a tough, but it's not as tough as it used

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Speaker 2: As I'm an old man, but tough but fair media.

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Speaker 3: Tough media market here. I don't Philadelphia well, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: that's Kyrie.

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Speaker 2: No Philadelphia. I mean New York is is a bit.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, like I said, every Philadelphia is worse.

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Speaker 2: Everything gets blown out of proportion.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, guys, I was told somebody one

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Speaker 4: reason why Kyrie works good here is because the media

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Speaker 4: here is nicer. And also, by the way, the maths, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we'll see you after the All of that matters, and

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Speaker 4: and yeah, I think guys can get along here a

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Speaker 2: It's not as contentious here, it's not.

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Speaker 4: And in green Bay, yes, green Bay's the fans, the

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Speaker 4: media there is, they're they're more favorable. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: think that that's also what happens when you have a

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Speaker 4: to be You're you're more apt to giving them a

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Speaker 4: as versus number poor Nick Sirianni. I mean this man's

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Speaker 4: been in two Super Bowls and they've been giving this

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Speaker 4: man the business for three weeks now, I mean they

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Speaker 3: They are on himself.

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Speaker 4: Yes, going to Detroit here to face Dan Campbell and

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Speaker 4: uh Dan's got his own issues. All of a sudden, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden seven and five football team?

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Speaker 2: Are we surprised? From this perspective?

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Speaker 8: You lose what everybody said was the best offense coordinating

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Speaker 8: in the league lost Like that was my thing? That

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Speaker 8: was and we ain't even talked about Aaron Glynn yet.

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Speaker 8: Coaching matters at the at the elite level and in

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Speaker 8: the game or the type talent is so close, coaching matters.

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Speaker 5: I about Ben Johnson leaves a fifteen win Detroit team

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Speaker 5: and goes to a division rival and they're in first place,

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Speaker 5: in the number one seed in the NFC and the

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Speaker 5: space of his first eleven games? Is that goach?

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Speaker 3: You guys ask.

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Speaker 5: That's a big anniversary like Friday was a big anniversary.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, I've always thought of that because one

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Speaker 3: What are you doing with flutes.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's just been giving me the business, the business,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, you guys would be like you guys

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Speaker 4: will be okay, but.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, Wow, what a difference the coaching jobs made.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 8: My sister is a card carrying Bears fan who lives

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Speaker 8: in Philly and who went to the game Wow, dressed

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Speaker 8: under cover what she said until we scored that last

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Speaker 8: touch and everybody left, and she's I mean, she'll text

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Speaker 8: you all day long about Ben Johnson. And you know,

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Speaker 8: y'all keep ebra flues down there for please.

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Speaker 4: They don't wonder how that feels, how it feels to camp,

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Speaker 4: you know, if you're flu how does that feel? Just

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Speaker 4: to see what they They fired you and they were

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Speaker 4: right and they're now thriving.

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Speaker 8: Well, they don't know. Coaches never view it that way.

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Speaker 8: They're like, well, if they doesn't allow me to do

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Speaker 8: this and allowed me to do that, then if I'd

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Speaker 8: had one more year with Caleb, I'd been able to

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Speaker 8: getting ready to you know how coaches do that.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not sure he left there as a big

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Speaker 5: fan of Caleb Williams and doubt he expected him to

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Speaker 5: have the kind of success under Ben Johnson or anybody

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Speaker 5: else that he's had so far of the season.

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Speaker 6: They're doing it without their best player on defense too,

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Speaker 6: in Jalen Johnson. That's that's an added element to it.

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Speaker 6: It's like the guy who you helped succeed, it's not

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Speaker 6: him that's leading the NFL in interceptions and takeaways, it's

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Speaker 6: everybody else well.

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Speaker 5: And to the point about the Lions, Yeah, that was

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Speaker 5: the big pre game preseason story was they lost both

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Speaker 5: their coordinators. Very seldom has that happened in the NFL

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Speaker 4: So the Lions have got the Lions have got some

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Speaker 6: Is so far so good? Yeah, so far, so good.

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Speaker 5: Forty four touchdowns already. He's only been in the league

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Speaker 3: Not bad for a guy.

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Speaker 5: Barry Sanders is the only guy who has more right.

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Speaker 3: Fans booed on the draft dayly, what are we doing

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Speaker 5: What do we take of this guy? What twelfth or

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Speaker 5: But your point about golf, it is really all about that,

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Speaker 5: because he's got the biggest statistical drop off for any

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Speaker 4: I mean this this I'm shooting. I know you feel

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Speaker 5: And they didn't get into the second quarter of the

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Speaker 4: That's what we're saying. That's uh, that's McCarthy. It's different times.

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Speaker 4: It's different in it. It's different.

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Speaker 3: Ed gotta get on that blue Magic Man that hope.

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Speaker 3: Man fans are on it. Man fans are on it.

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Speaker 6: What if they win this ball game, they should be

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Speaker 4: I said that on the other podcast too. It's like

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Speaker 5: Is going to be twenty twenty three again for the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: We talked a little bit about that too.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think this schedule is too just there's

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Speaker 3: Yeah easy.

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Speaker 5: They already lost to the Giants once.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you what, playing the Commanders twice in three

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Speaker 5: Hope justin Herbert plays, Yeah, yeah. Otherwise it's Trey Lance, right,

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Speaker 3: So it's it's it's interting. I just I just don't

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Speaker 2: Doing I think they got a game against the Raiders too, right, Yes,

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Speaker 5: If you look at that schedule that this happened to

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, to your point, they are a team

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, AJ Brown's called it an s show

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Speaker 8: It's not with their and see their coach is not

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Speaker 5: And Syrianni's saying, I'm not changing the play caller. It's

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Speaker 5: not changing the play caller. So what's he saying? It's

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Speaker 4: I didn't call plays in Indianapolis. I ain't called on

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Speaker 3: Say this, man, it's fun to watch. It is.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna have to buy him out.

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Speaker 3: Work fine, work though, okay, work.

446
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Speaker 6: That doesn't happen.

447
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Speaker 3: Work better than Brian Kelly.

448
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Speaker 5: Sure.

449
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Speaker 6: I don't think he'll even reach Brian Kelly level. I

450
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Speaker 6: think that's gonna be bad. I think that's gonna be

451
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Speaker 6: a defends on where.

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Speaker 8: It depends on you know, does he does he take

453
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Speaker 8: them to uh where they believe they deserve to be

454
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Speaker 8: every year?

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be better than Brian Kelly.

456
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Speaker 2: Can they go eleven one, eleven two every year?

457
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Speaker 4: He a he's been in the sec understands it. Where

458
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Speaker 4: Brian Kelly, I mean, the guy came in with the

459
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Speaker 4: fake accent so right out you're just you're faking it

460
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Speaker 4: from the front.

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Speaker 3: So he didn't get that part of it.

462
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Speaker 4: So Lane, if you do what he did at Old Miss,

463
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Speaker 4: you can go to l s U and do that too,

464
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Speaker 4: you know, you know, go out there and get the

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Speaker 4: right talent, find a quarterback, coach him up. I think

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Speaker 4: I think he'll be No, I know he'll be better

467
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Speaker 4: than Ryan Kelly. Will he win a championship? I mean

468
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Speaker 4: at O'scheron is not exactly going down as a guy

469
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Speaker 4: who offer right right, the same, yeah, the same note

470
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Speaker 4: sat Bill waltsh you know Bill wall Street coming at

471
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Speaker 4: oon and that guy won a championship. I mean, think

472
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Speaker 4: about it. So minus Brian Kelly.

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Speaker 10: Thest roster in college football's gonna have a for sure

474
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Speaker 10: for sure he can recruit.

475
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Speaker 4: So if you so, you take out Brian Kelly, who

476
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Speaker 4: had no clue about sec life mainly was up there.

477
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Speaker 4: And because Cincinnati, Michigan all that, so o'jeron ended up

478
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Speaker 4: winning a championship. Guy before him, less Miles wanted championship

479
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Speaker 4: do before that, Nick same win the championship. Lane Kiffin

480
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Speaker 4: will be better than Brian Kelly. And I don't think

481
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Speaker 4: it's hard at that place, with the money they've got

482
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Speaker 4: for him to be in a to be in a

483
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Speaker 4: position to win one.

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Speaker 6: Y'all have been around here long enough. How is his

485
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Speaker 6: pops to deal with?

486
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Speaker 8: It's great, Yeah, because they're relevant by the time he

487
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Speaker 8: got you true real tough. I mean he's he was

488
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Speaker 8: relevant because he had done great things. They didn't do

489
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Speaker 8: anything here.

490
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Speaker 3: Bat Hire.

491
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a name higher is a convenient name.

492
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Speaker 3: He was a jag at that point.

493
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Speaker 5: Yeah sounds but he wasn't always no, no, he was

494
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Speaker 5: at one point he.

495
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Speaker 2: Was that dude.

496
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Speaker 4: Yes, speaking of money Kiffin the gym today, I saw

497
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Speaker 4: Brod Maynell.

498
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Speaker 3: I ain't talked to him.

499
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Speaker 4: He's still just you know, walking around getting his work

500
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Speaker 4: out in Man wearing his black at black Yeah, I

501
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Speaker 4: said Hey.

502
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Speaker 8: I've had that contract for Tristan Hill in his back

503
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Speaker 8: pocket holiday time.

504
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Speaker 3: It's Christmas.

505
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Speaker 2: Man wants a tough football.

506
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Speaker 5: No, I know you talk whatever you want to show.

507
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Speaker 3: He's like, not how I would run it to our show,

508
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Speaker 3: Dak Press.

509
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Speaker 5: I've already tried to redirect you guys several times.

510
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes you have, Dak Prescott. Yeah, what did you

511
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Speaker 4: find in Lightning today?

512
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Speaker 5: What's that I like? I like that he talked about

513
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Speaker 5: the confidence that they're playing with coming out for these

514
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Speaker 5: three wins, that he uh, he's very honest about how

515
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Speaker 5: he've used this game, how important it is, and the

516
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Speaker 5: most fascinating part of the game within the game to

517
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Speaker 5: me is you know, he's he's playing his best football

518
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Speaker 5: right now. And we've said that a lot in recent years,

519
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Speaker 5: but I think it's hard to argue that he's not

520
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Speaker 5: playing as well as he's ever played right now with

521
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Speaker 5: these two receivers. I mean, the three hundred yard passing

522
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Speaker 5: games leads the NFL. In that leads the NFL, and

523
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Speaker 5: he has three straight games, all wins, where he's completed

524
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Speaker 5: two hundred yards in passing to his two wide receivers.

525
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Speaker 5: I think they need that kind of game against this line,

526
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Speaker 5: this team, And it was interesting to me that Dak

527
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Speaker 5: and the two receivers both talked about how unique it

528
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Speaker 5: is the way the Lions try to play you, that

529
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Speaker 5: it's unlike anything else they've seen this year in terms

530
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Speaker 5: of they get up, press man in your face, making

531
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Speaker 5: contact with you the line of scrimmage. You don't know

532
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Speaker 5: what kind of how the officials are gonna call it.

533
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Speaker 5: You know, Dak selling them would be physical at the

534
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Speaker 5: top of the routes and off the line of script.

535
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Speaker 5: So I think it's interesting, gonna be an interesting matchup there.

536
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Speaker 4: So stay right there, And this is one I was

537
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Speaker 4: doing another podcast, so I missed Dak. Does it still

538
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Speaker 4: matter going up against Jared Goff? Because in that draft class,

539
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Speaker 4: GARYT Jared went number one overall, and for a while

540
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Speaker 4: there was like, hey, there's there's Dak versus Carson Wentz

541
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Speaker 4: because Carson taking number two and he was a Philly

542
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Speaker 4: and then he had Jared Goff and then you know,

543
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Speaker 4: comparing Dak, who went in the fourth round to these

544
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Speaker 4: two gags.

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Speaker 5: Well, the interesting thing to me was somebody said to

546
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Speaker 5: Dak ask him about the quarterback class and how he's

547
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Speaker 5: passed golf, and I'm sorry, are you sure? Like Goff

548
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Speaker 5: went to a Super Bowl? Right, Goff's had more playoff

549
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Speaker 5: success that Dak has had. He didn't play well in

550
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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. He had even play average, they would

551
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Speaker 5: have won a game they had the Patriots beat, I

552
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Speaker 5: asked Wade Phillips, who should have won that game? Yes,

553
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Speaker 5: but I don't know that Dak really thinks he needs

554
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Speaker 5: to stand out against somebody else who was drafted higher

555
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Speaker 5: than him in his class. I think he looks at

556
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Speaker 5: himself as more among the more elite quarterbacks in football,

557
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Speaker 5: even though you can argue like I have, that Goff

558
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Speaker 5: has accomplished more.

559
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Speaker 2: Now, why do you think he's playing so well?

560
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Speaker 5: I think I think the system fits him. I think

561
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Speaker 5: having a running game and be in play action is huge.

562
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Speaker 5: Like I wrote this last year, nobody reads me, obviously,

563
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Speaker 5: but I wrote I wrote at the end of last

564
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Speaker 5: year that McCarthy, if you're going to get rid of McCarthy.

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Speaker 5: To me, it was because he's got Dak playing exclusively

566
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Speaker 5: in a shotgun seventy three percent of the time. And

567
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Speaker 5: Dak would be so much more effective if he played

568
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Speaker 5: like Jared Goff, if he played like stat Matthew Stafford

569
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Speaker 5: in under center with the threat of the running game,

570
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Speaker 5: and he he says that's that's the way he likes

571
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Speaker 5: to play like, that's the part of the game he

572
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Speaker 5: enjoys the most, and they've been usually successful at it.

573
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Speaker 5: So I think it's the system. I think it's the

574
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Speaker 5: aggressive play calling style. I think it's the players around him,

575
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Speaker 5: like Javonte Williams has been great. Booker obviously has helped

576
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Speaker 5: protect him with his first round draft pick and then Pickens.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not sure he's ever He's had good

578
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Speaker 5: receivers a couple of times before, but I'm not sure

579
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Speaker 5: he's ever had two this good.

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Speaker 3: And you're tight end that you can rely on.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's uh and I think it's We've

582
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Speaker 8: talked all about it, but you know, he can really

583
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Speaker 8: move this year. And I'm not talking about necessarily running

584
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Speaker 8: for ten or fifteen yards. I'm talking about like on

585
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Speaker 8: that touchdown pass to Javonte, where he's moving laterally, then

586
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Speaker 8: he steps up, then moves latterly again, then he flips

587
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Speaker 8: it to him and you know, even now on the

588
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Speaker 8: two point or the one to pick it in the

589
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Speaker 8: corner where he's on the move and he's just so

590
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Speaker 8: he appears to be so much more mobile, whether it

591
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Speaker 8: was the work that he did because of his hamstring

592
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Speaker 8: or he's you know, now five years later, fully over

593
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Speaker 8: his ankle. Whatever that movement is that last little piece

594
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Speaker 8: to go with his mind and his ability to me

595
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Speaker 8: this And that.

596
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Speaker 5: Was a big question coming into the year. Didn't you think, like, sure,

597
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Speaker 5: legitimate he could he manipulate the pocket and avoid the rush,

598
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Speaker 5: could he extend plays? Could he still be accurate? And

599
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Speaker 5: he's done all those things.

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Speaker 2: He's been phenomenal this year.

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Speaker 6: And with the play action specifically, I mean, these are

602
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Speaker 6: the two best play action quarterbacks in the league for

603
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Speaker 6: my money, and with Dak and his increased mobility, it

604
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Speaker 6: only increases the effectiveness of that play action and statistically

605
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Speaker 6: he's been the best this year.

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Speaker 8: Let me ask you another question, because I'm curious what

607
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Speaker 8: makes a good play action quarterback?

608
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Speaker 6: Just be able to make quick decisions because typically if.

609
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Speaker 2: Your back is to the defense, yeah, so you have.

610
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Speaker 5: To be comfortable with that. And then, as he has

611
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Speaker 5: said several you know a lot of people who talk

612
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Speaker 5: about play action, they say, you don't really have to

613
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Speaker 5: have a good running game to have good play action,

614
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Speaker 5: but Dak says it's all about the running.

615
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a real threat.

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Speaker 5: He has said that several times, like there's been a

617
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Speaker 5: few years where we just weren't that good at running

618
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Speaker 5: the football.

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Speaker 3: Well now we are last year. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I think he's meant for the past three or four.

621
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Speaker 3: You yeah, yeah, Nick, What else did you get out

622
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Speaker 3: of Dak?

623
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Speaker 12: Uh?

624
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was bouncing from Dak over to the locker

625
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 6: room in the middle of that, but special cover. Yeah,

626
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Speaker 6: you know, I'm trying to try to do what I can,

627
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Speaker 6: but it He had said something about Dan Campbell and

628
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Speaker 6: he was asked about, you know, Dan Campbell and is

629
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Speaker 6: it personal for Dan Campbell? You see how they won

630
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 6: last year and kind of felt like they were rubbing

631
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Speaker 6: it in a little bit. He was like, well, you know,

632
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Speaker 6: I don't. I don't feel like there should be any

633
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Speaker 6: pride because it's one one right now, Like neither of

634
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 6: us should have any pride in this matchup or rivalry

635
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 6: right now. And there was a quote that he had

636
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Speaker 6: I'm trying to remember off talking about brain but I can't,

637
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 6: but that was basically what he said and being like,

638
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Speaker 6: hey man, like it's there's there's no you know, animosity

639
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 6: or anything between both sides. But you know, if he

640
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 6: feels the increased desire to win, and he's no different

641
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 6: than any of the other opponents because that's Cowboys typically

642
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 6: do have the target on their back, you know, weekend,

643
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Speaker 6: week out. So I thought that was fascinating and just

644
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Speaker 6: kind of an interesting wrinkle into this.

645
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Speaker 5: He said, you said, he's comfortable doing that, like he

646
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 5: beats us all the time, and that's not what's really happened.

647
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 5: He's won one and we've won one.

648
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Speaker 4: Is this a mini playoff game? Lions has habited five

649
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 4: right now, Cowboys six has.

650
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Speaker 5: The Lions are just as desperate as the Cowboys. If

651
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 5: you listen to Dan Gamble.

652
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, it has to be. Both teams need this win.

653
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Speaker 2: Dan's inventing reasons to be may so yeah, you know

654
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Speaker 2: what I mean.

655
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Speaker 5: Well, the thing for Dallas is, like Dallas still has, Unbelievably,

656
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 5: Dallas's best shot is probably to win its division. For

657
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 5: the Eagles to falter like they did in twenty twenty

658
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 5: three when they finished they started ten to one and

659
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 5: lost five of their last six, and Dallas overtook them.

660
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Speaker 5: Neither party wants to talk about what those teams did

661
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 5: in the playoffs, but Dallas wind up winning the division

662
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 5: in a situation where that seemed inconceivable, right, And so

663
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 5: when Philly came here two weeks ago, they had the

664
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Speaker 5: biggest lead of any team in the NFL. They're up

665
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Speaker 5: four and a half games on Dallas. They could there

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Speaker 5: All of a sudden, Dallas has closed it to a

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Speaker 8: And if they figure out a way to win, because

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Speaker 8: I still think Detroit wins, but if they figure out

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Speaker 5: Because then they got to go place the Chargers three

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Speaker 5: days later on Monday Night football and we have to

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Speaker 5: but god, if we lose, we're down to a half

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and the Cowboys and then they'll look at this.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it then becomes, you know, a self fulfilling

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Speaker 2: But that's a big that's a big chasm to leap.

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Speaker 5: But if you could, if you can beat the Eagles

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Speaker 4: all right. Trayvon Diggs set the return number seven. Defense

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Speaker 4: keeps getting more pieces, the reinforcements are on the way.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's I think it's great. I think

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Speaker 2: he'll come back.

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Speaker 8: He's uh maybe he's over his heartbreak with Micah getting traded.

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Speaker 8: He pulled his head out his keyster and now he's ready.

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Speaker 6: To uh shot.

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Speaker 5: How he got his concussion pulling his head out. It

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Speaker 5: is still a mystery.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I'll tell you what. That's the best theory we

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Speaker 8: He knows what's up and what's Let's just keep it

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Speaker 8: a buck. You're getting cutting the off season. You need

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Speaker 8: to put some good tape out there for these last

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Speaker 8: five weeks everybody's looking at the Cowboys, and put some

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Speaker 8: quality tape out there. Go get paid somewhere next year

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Speaker 8: and then I can figure out how much the game

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Speaker 8: means to me and all the other stuff. But I

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Speaker 8: think he'll be terrific for these last hovery many games

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Speaker 8: they have left.

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Speaker 6: I'll say this, I think the Cowboys have a right

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Speaker 6: approach with him right now. They're not going to throw

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Speaker 6: him out there and give him starting reps immediately. They've

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Speaker 6: talked about it still being a rotation where he comes

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Speaker 6: in and I wouldn't expect him to play more than

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Speaker 6: thirty thirty five snaps if he does play on Thursday

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Speaker 6: against the Lions, and I think that's the right thing

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Speaker 6: to do. Not only are you cutting him in the offseason,

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Speaker 6: but you need to develop develop some of these guys

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Speaker 6: behind him, not only Savone Revel, but Caitlin Carson's played

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Speaker 6: really well. Deron Bland. You know, what does that look

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Speaker 6: like for his snap count as well. I wouldn't mind

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Speaker 6: seeing some tra Quiz Bridges snaps here and there. Still,

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Speaker 6: you know, I think that's a rookie that does have

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Speaker 6: potential with his frame and his size. You still have

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Speaker 6: to plan for the future, but also realize that Treyvon

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Speaker 6: Diggs gives you an element when he's on the field

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Speaker 6: and he's healthy. But that's the big question, is that

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Speaker 6: health part.

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Speaker 5: Well, but it's supposed to be a meritocracy. You can't

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Speaker 5: just give him that. You just can't make him a

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Speaker 5: starter again, right, I mean, it's been a long time

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Speaker 5: since he's been good. Twenty twenty one led the NFL

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Speaker 5: in interceptions, but he's missed more games than he's played

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Speaker 5: by a factor of about three. Yeah, since then. But

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Speaker 5: I can see him helping you out as a nickel corner,

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Speaker 5: letting Bland go play inside in a game like this

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Speaker 5: two minutes. I can definitely see him helping. I mean,

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Speaker 5: and Shotty was asked specially about him playing safety. He

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Speaker 5: kind of dismissed it, thank you, but he said, hey,

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Speaker 5: he could add his best. He's still shut down corner.

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Speaker 5: Can he still be his best? I don't know, but

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Speaker 5: he could still be better than some of the bottom

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Speaker 5: end guys on the rost corner.

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Speaker 8: For somebody like him to me just about where's it is,

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Speaker 8: you know, and how focused he is and how much

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Speaker 8: you know, sometimes your focus can be whatever it can be.

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Speaker 8: I want to show you that I can really play,

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Speaker 8: so I can then say f you or screw you

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Speaker 8: or give you double birds or whatever whatever your internal moment.

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Speaker 5: And you talked about making him play to win a game,

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Speaker 5: He could do that.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Who's the last Cowboy player that fell off so much?

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Speaker 4: See That's why I was gonna go with touch signing

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Speaker 4: money and just like man just happened, what happened to

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Speaker 6: He's the first one that comes to mind for sure.

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Speaker 5: Well, Jerry mentioned to guys that he paid too early steal.

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Speaker 2: And the white paid steal.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that one confused me. And he had not played

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Speaker 6: one game since destroying his knee.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I probably say if you know we're talking about,

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Speaker 4: you know guys who the last is still December to

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Speaker 4: remember because they'll be going. It'll be treyvon Diggs and

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Speaker 4: most likely Terrence Steele, because if you're trying to find

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Speaker 4: money to pay George Pickens and Brandon Arbor, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: have to go, you know, look at some, uh, look

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Speaker 4: at some.

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Speaker 5: But Zeke was better. He's a better player for longer

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Speaker 5: than Diggs was.

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Speaker 2: And Zeke.

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Speaker 8: I don't think what Zeke fell off into me in

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Speaker 8: part because he's just running back, and that's what happens

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Speaker 8: to them, especially if you have the workload that he ads.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't that, you know, he had to necessarily pull

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Speaker 8: his head out his keyster and no sane general manager

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Speaker 8: in general pays a running back six ninety six at

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Speaker 8: that point in his career.

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Speaker 5: Well, the Cowboys told you what they thought of their

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Speaker 5: future with Digs when they wouldn't pay him the five

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Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars bonus because he didn't meet the criteria

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Speaker 5: preferment to we don't like you to work out and

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Speaker 5: rehab with the people here. When you're taking five hundred

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Speaker 5: thousand and half a million dollars from a player, you're

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Speaker 5: telling him you're not long for our organization.

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Speaker 8: And when a player gives up five hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 8: and now you got to do is come here and

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Speaker 8: work out, that says a little bit about him.

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Speaker 3: And we all see where it's going now.

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Speaker 2: And if we winning, somebody else's kid next to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, this is this is the business.

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Speaker 4: Once you've paid Bland, you know, to me, that was

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Speaker 4: the riding on the wall of just okay, this is

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Speaker 4: this is going You're not going to pay two corners

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Speaker 4: that kind of money. Only one guy's gonna get paid.

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Speaker 4: And so they're going to take take Digs his money

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Speaker 4: and redistribute to other places as you should. Because George Pickens,

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Speaker 4: George Pickens has to be paid. And so you're gonna

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Speaker 4: have to look internally. Okay, here's some candidate money.

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Speaker 2: Hey, well, I guess they'll franchise.

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Speaker 6: But either either way, this team is more in the

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Speaker 6: other team.

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Speaker 5: In the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I know, man, you did gloom into last week.

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Speaker 6: I'm just telling you they're gonna have a lot, a

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Speaker 6: lot of things to figure out, a lot of things

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Speaker 6: to figure out. It's not just dicks. It won't be

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Speaker 6: just steal Clark. They're gonna have to really figure out

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Speaker 6: some money, no doubt, Stevens.

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Speaker 8: You just need to make it coincide with Dak's deal

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Speaker 8: because that's your window to win. Yeah, so everything after that,

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Speaker 8: who cares go make it happen during this two or

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Speaker 8: three year window with.

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Speaker 3: fix it.

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Speaker 5: All he shows, every decisions, every decision he's making right now,

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Speaker 5: is all about Dak, you know, all about making sure

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Speaker 5: there's a difference between Dak's career and Romos.

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Speaker 8: Well' see that's interesting because it's all about Dek. But

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Speaker 8: about Deck where he ain't got to score thirty nine

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Speaker 8: points a game, and I'm all for keeping all three tackles.

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Speaker 2: I don't really care.

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Speaker 4: And Jerry we trust, eh nick ed Jock, Nobody comment.

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Speaker 4: That's our show. So I did the next time right

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Speaker 4: here on the medium.

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Speaker 6: Because we want to be here next time.

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