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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone podcast presented by by Star Credit

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Speaker 1: Junior with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome

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Speaker 1: to this week's Ozone podcast was in by by Star

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Speaker 1: and this week's guests. I've been looking forward to talking

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Speaker 1: to for a while. I was just joking with him

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Speaker 1: that we go back twenty seven years for reasons that

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Speaker 1: he didn't remember. Uh. This week's guest is Jaguar's passing

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Speaker 1: game coordinator Brian Schottenheimer. And to fill in that story,

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Speaker 1: twenty seven years ago, I was a young reporter for

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Speaker 1: the University of Florida for the Times Union here in town.

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Speaker 1: You were a younger quarterback getting your starts, So good

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Speaker 1: to see you again, although you have no memory of

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Speaker 1: that interaction. Well, if i'm if my math is correct,

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Speaker 1: then if you're a reporter and I was a student athlete,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit younger than you, so I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's probably where we should start

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Speaker 1: this conversation. I was a really young re order. Really

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. You're in high school or college yourself,

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Speaker 1: but some of the guys who were unfortunately it was

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Speaker 1: about twenty five, so I am older than you. Um,

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Speaker 1: tell me about this offseason. Uh, so far you've been

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Speaker 1: in this I guess four months now. I how's it going.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we've gotten so much covered. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's just been a whirlwind, for sure. Anytime you're on

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Speaker 1: a new staff, it's a whirlwind. You come in and uh,

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Speaker 1: not only you know, evaluating talent and players in the

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Speaker 1: you're also putting together a playbook and you're learning your staff,

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Speaker 1: and you're learning Urban and those guys, and UM, it's

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Speaker 1: been a lot of hard work. But boy, now that

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Speaker 1: we're kind of winding down the off season program, you

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Speaker 1: see all the things that we've done and that we

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Speaker 1: we've accomplished, and we've upgraded the roster, and we feel

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Speaker 1: great about the playbook that's coming together and how we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to use those pieces too to attack defenses.

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Speaker 1: And of course, the relationships and the connection that we

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Speaker 1: Now that we've been through practice is and meetings and

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Speaker 1: So it's been um, really a eventful but awesome, awesome

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Speaker 1: a couple of months. It's been probably seven in a

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Speaker 1: lot of ways for four months as you sort of

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Speaker 1: give yourself a chance to breathe. Now, UH, what's maybe

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing accomplished? Or is that too general question?

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Speaker 1: You accomplished so much in four months. I where do

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Speaker 1: you feel like you've made the most progress? Well, I

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the talent acquisition piece has been awesome.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we had a plan for what

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Speaker 1: we wanted to do. We wanted to upgrade, you know, um,

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Speaker 1: some of the skill positions and developed some of the

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Speaker 1: Lavishka and DJ and those guys, and James Robinson as

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Speaker 1: would say you start with talent acquisition because UH, coaching

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Speaker 1: least players that can take the information that you give

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Speaker 1: That certainly helps. So we put a huge piece of

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Speaker 1: But without having great solid fundamentals, at some point, you're

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Speaker 1: And so, um, we're not done, but we feel great

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Speaker 1: about those two pieces. Uh, those were probably the first

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Speaker 1: sounds like you're pretty locked down on the fundamental part,

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Speaker 1: To hold on to fundamentals through the season. Is that

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Speaker 1: that is something that we will it's non negotiable in

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Speaker 1: and it's kind of cool because you can kind of

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Speaker 1: they're not. I mean wanted to ask you this. Ever,

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Speaker 1: um what I was going to do. I certainly had options. UM,

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Speaker 1: just talent? It's there, Yeah, the talents there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: That's what Philip was. Philip was not, you know, if

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Speaker 1: And that's the first thing that's jumped out at me

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Speaker 1: like everything you could ask for. Incredibly mature. Uh. You know. Married,

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Speaker 1: He's all ball when he's here, he leaves, he studies,

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