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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex bar Blazar and Lazarre. Everybody nailed it,

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Speaker 1: joined us always by our bark. Here is Evan Lazar

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Speaker 1: and Alex Bars.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you after two and a half days

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Speaker 2: at the combine, those reason are a lot harder.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell a half days combine I could use when

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Speaker 2: A lot of what is us right like we had

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Speaker 2: playing a completely shaved for the first time, for which

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to do.

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Speaker 1: My trim broke and now everybody's seeing what.

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Speaker 3: Was under there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I needed the steps.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, my voice last week I did not.

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Speaker 1: I knew it was a little shot.

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Speaker 2: I knew there was a little bit of raspiness going

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Speaker 1: But here in that back and I I was maybe

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Speaker 1: because you're worn out from doing so much podcasting, right.

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Speaker 2: I warned, it is exactly exactly. Well, we're back, We're

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Speaker 2: back back, We're back from the Combine. We're in the

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Speaker 2: studio again. Feels good to be back at and at

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Speaker 2: home after a week at the Combine. Never complained about

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Speaker 2: the Combine. Love the Combine. It's my my favorite event

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Speaker 2: of the year, my favorite trip of the year to

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Speaker 2: go to Indianapolis. I was a little disappointed though, that

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Speaker 2: I didn't get to Prime forty seven for dinner later

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Speaker 2: That was a little disappointing. You got a stake, but

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Speaker 2: Thursday night, you know, the workouts ran late, and it

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Speaker 2: just didn't line up for me to be to end

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Speaker 1: But you got some shrimp cocktail. Did.

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Speaker 2: I watched it happen your first experience. You didn't know

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Speaker 2: what you were getting yourself into. I handled it fine,

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Speaker 2: You handled it fine, But I did tell you that

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Speaker 2: it's got a kick.

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Speaker 1: It comes it, does it? Does it? Uh? I found

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Speaker 1: out that there's like because I tell my buddy about it.

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Speaker 1: There is no way it's like that. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's the same when you buy it in

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Speaker 1: the store. But I found out they sell bottles of

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's the same personally for experience, but

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Speaker 1: Tastes the same. It just has to be as hot.

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Speaker 1: I just want to make him feel how hot it is.

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Speaker 2: Everything like that is the same when you when you

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Speaker 2: put it into you know, the supermarkets and stuff. But anyways,

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Speaker 2: I digress. That's that's a little two minutes of what

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Speaker 2: when when What went on at the Combine post Wednesday

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Speaker 2: Catch twenty two last week. So yeah, that was a

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Speaker 2: fun week and we had a fun time. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: recap or post mortem here the Combine a little bit

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of the show. I know everybody is

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Speaker 2: eager for the start of free agency next week, so

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Speaker 2: a lot of free agency talk. We do plan on

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Speaker 2: talking plenty of free agency. But before we do that,

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Speaker 2: I do want to have I do have some last takes,

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Speaker 2: you do as well. So before we get truly rolling.

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Speaker 2: New England Patriots. All right, I want to start with

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Speaker 2: an opening dike, and then we're gonna do three up,

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Speaker 2: then we have three up, three down combine style. So

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Speaker 2: really hit and lean into the strength of this draft,

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Speaker 2: I was blown away by the running back workouts, which

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Speaker 2: But sitting there on Saturday watching, you know, okay, next

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Speaker 2: there's plenty of running backs in this draft. There's a

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Speaker 2: takeaway for the Patriots is that you need to approach

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Speaker 2: free agency to fill some needs that are not available

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Speaker 2: then hammer front seven in the draft. Right, you can

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Speaker 1: So that was my big takeaway.

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Speaker 2: I think that if you get stuck in a position

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Speaker 1: He called Ronnie Stanley and to a lesser extent, Cam

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that any of these players are bad players,

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Speaker 1: knowing what we know now, Evan who is the best

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Speaker 2: And I think Tyler Warren has been on both of

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Speaker 2: The question that you have to ask with a guy

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Speaker 2: You know in terms of your wide receiver pass catcher

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Speaker 1: So I'm not ready to say that one hundred percent,

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Speaker 2: Like we are not big and I don't want to

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Speaker 2: So if they're gonna draft him at four overall, then

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Speaker 2: offering in similar contracts. We just aren't in a position

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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily look at him and see I've said

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 1: This class, right, the talent in this class.

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Speaker 2: Those two guys are top ten talents in this year.

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Speaker 1: I rewatched games you haven't seen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I phrased that poorly. I watched games that I

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Speaker 2: And there's an obvious path there in terms of his

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Speaker 2: I think he can separate at the first two levels.

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Speaker 1: How else are we going to get a number one receiver?

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Speaker 1: our money. We can't get Chris Godwin to take our cash.

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00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 1: We can't get t Higgins out of Cincinnati because they

434
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 1: keep on freaking franchise tagging the guy, Right, So like,

435
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 1: how else are we going to get that player? Like,

436
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 1: maybe it's Tyler Warren just in a different mold, right,

437
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 1: Maybe we're building the offense differently, We're building it around Tyler.

438
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Ted McMillan, and is it perfect? No, But

439
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 1: I think there's a case for both those guys. So

440
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 1: I actually have a a take on the receivers. It's

441
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 1: not so much a take, just you know, coming away

442
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 1: from it, how do they get that guy? Matthew Golden

443
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 1: impressed me more than I thought. I already liked Matthew Golden,

444
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: as you know. Yeah, but like tet at even if

445
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: they trade down, Let's say tet at nine, where you

446
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: trade up and you get Golden at like twenty four,

447
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: So you're gonna take two receivers? No, no, no, I'm saying,

448
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 1: if it's oh, right, what's the better play you take?

449
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,959
Speaker 1: I don't know somebody else that I don't know if

450
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 1: Matthew Golden's gonna be there at twenty four, you don't

451
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: think so, just based off of some of the things

452
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 1: that you heard coming out of the combine, Like there

453
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: are some teams that might have him as the number

454
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: one receiver in the draft. Yeah, so I had, and

455
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking, like for the Patriots, it's really

456
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 1: close if you could just stylistically right for it. Josh

457
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: McDaniels was such a great route runner, right, So I

458
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 1: came in Golden is such a great I came in

459
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: thinking he was Tet gap and then that group of

460
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: Burden Golden and Igbuka Sam and I kind of came

461
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: away like Golden might be closer to Tet than he

462
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: is to those other two.

463
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair. Now, I don't want to overrate the

464
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 2: forty two much, but I don't think.

465
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: He played No. I just thought, like, he don't think.

466
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: He plays four to two, Like I think he runs

467
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: great routes. Yeah, and he's got great hands, and he's

468
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: got great body control and separation ability.

469
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: In the open field.

470
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily see four two. But that's okay. Like

471
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I just think

472
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 2: that he had. If I were to list like the

473
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 2: good things about Matthew Golden, I don't know if like

474
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 2: I don't know where speed would like top end speed

475
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: would be on that list.

476
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: Right, it's you know what for me? And I already

477
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: thought he was he had a really good chance being

478
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: a first round pick. Yeah, it's not even the forty.

479
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 1: It's the way he spoke at his podium, hearing the

480
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: way people talked about him, his approach, like this sounds

481
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: kind of you can tell me if this is dumb.

482
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: You can tell me if I'm putting too much emphasis

483
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: on this. Right. The other Texas guys, Tees Johnson, they

484
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: went up there and talked about how they were gonna

485
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: beat Xavier Worthy's forty, right, and they were talking smack

486
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: about it. And I'm not faulting them for being confident,

487
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 1: but like they went up and they talked a lot

488
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: of smack about it. None of them broke four four,

489
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: Isaiah Bond, Jaylen Blue, none of them broke for four.

490
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: Golden goes up there, talks about how he wants to

491
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: be coach hard, how he wants to you know, I

492
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: thought he had a great pot of it. And then

493
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: he goes out and he runs a better time than

494
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: any of them. Yeah, and again just talking to people

495
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: kind of about his mental makeup. That's what's great about

496
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: the combine is we see these guys on tape, but

497
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: you get to kind of learn a little bit more

498
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: about what makes them tick, and hearing about what makes

499
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: Matthew Golden tick, I'm like, yeah, that's kind of the

500
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: guy I want. And you know, I still think he's

501
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: a very confident guy, and I think he has kind

502
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: of that swagger that you want from wide receiver. But

503
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: I think he has that dog too a little bit

504
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: where he's kind of got that edge and he's a

505
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: competitor and he's got that fire. So I I like that,

506
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: Like that's the kind of thing that you learn at

507
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: these events, and especially the way it's gone here with

508
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 1: receivers the last couple of years. Somebody's gonna take that approach,

509
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: I think is he literally said about his meeting with Patriots,

510
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: they coached me hard. I want to be coached hard.

511
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 1: What more can you want at this point?

512
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 2: So the other thing just sort of the trickle down

513
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: of the receivers at the combine, and I have the

514
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil the ups and downs too much.

515
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: I already spoiled, like to of when you look.

516
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: At the Iowa state receivers Jaden Haigens and Jalen Noel,

517
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: both of those guys tested phenomenally and one of the

518
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: things that I.

519
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: Thought of too is that now.

520
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: I feel like pretty strongly that with both those players,

521
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 2: if you want one of those guys, you have to

522
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: take them at thirty eight.

523
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: Like they're not gonna make it to sixty nine. Sorry,

524
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: who is this? Noel and both Iowa State guys Ohs

525
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: and Noel? Right, would you put Rostrepo in that group

526
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: as well? No? Okay, no, because it's a size. But

527
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: he's get sixty nine. I think he might because.

528
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: He's a slot he's a slot only player.

529
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's a good slought only player. Yeah, but

530
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Noel is a more complete receiver than he is.

531
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's gonna go above. There's a lot

532
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: of picks between thirty eight and sixty. Sure, that's that's fair.

533
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: We'll see. But my point being is that if you

534
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: want one of those two guys, yeah, you need to

535
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: take them at thirty eight.

536
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: They're not making it to the Patriots in the third round.

537
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: It's not happening. So you're either taking them at thirty

538
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 2: eight or you're trading up from sixty nine to get

539
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: one of those. But even then, I think that their

540
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: range is probably now thirty to forty, Like.

541
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not moving up from sixty nine to get

542
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: one of those guys, you're moving down from thirty eight

543
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: if at all, So then after last year, just take

544
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: him at thirty eight at that point.

545
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 2: But my fear is, though, is that if they're operating

546
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: under this assumption, and I'm not saying that they necessarily

547
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: are one hundred percent of this thinking, but just for

548
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: the sake of the discussion, if they're operating under the

549
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: whole thing of trenches, trenches, trenches, and then now you're

550
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: gonna have to be using another third pick in the

551
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: thirties for two years in a row on a wide receiver. Yeah, right,

552
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: Like you're not really doing trenches, trenches, trenches, right, Yeah,

553
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 2: And so I I wonder at four where there is

554
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 2: a lot of uneasiness about a lot of these guys

555
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: like his skill player. Now may be a little bit

556
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: more of a consideration over trenches, and then you'll hammer the.

557
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: Trenches, I think to as long as the trenches are

558
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: addressed properly in free agency, that's all banks on them, right.

559
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: Butency defensive line they can find they can find on

560
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: day two about that, so offensive line is the question mark.

561
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: And maybe, like you said, you sign a Ronnie Stanley,

562
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: you sign a Cam Robinson to play left tackle, so

563
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: now you're really just looking for right tackle competition, right,

564
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: So maybe it's you know, an Ozzie Trapilo. Maybe it's

565
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: somebody and Anthony Belton, Yeah, Anthony Belton. Uh, you know

566
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 2: someone in that range of this draft that can come

567
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: in with Cayden Wallace and maybe a lower cost free

568
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: agent veteran, you know, want Morgan Moses. Let's just throw

569
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: a name out there for you know, one year, nine

570
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: million or eight million, you signed Morgan Moses is like,

571
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 2: you know, a better version of what they were hoping

572
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: they were going to get out of, like Riley Reef

573
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 2: for like choops of four and four or whatever. And

574
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: then you just kind of throw things at right tackle,

575
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: like you have three different layers of options there, right tack.

576
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: Or you you talk about member with four in a

577
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: trade back and you just locked that whole thing up. Yeah,

578
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: So we're gonna spoil all of our ups and downs talking,

579
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: so let's get and that we can fire through them

580
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: and get to the phone.

581
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 2: So let's talk about those here instead of spoiling all

582
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 2: of them, because let's go to my list in yours

583
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 2: as well, Okay, I want you start, you start, go ahead?

584
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: Should you start with when we already spoiled? Sure? Matthew Golden. Yeah,

585
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: I just thought he tested well. Sounded like he interviewed well,

586
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: checked a lot of boxes. That wide receiver two conversation

587
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: was wide open coming into the week. I still could see,

588
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: just on stylistically, some teams having burden over him. I

589
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: actually had burden go ahead of him in my uh

590
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: they went like really close twenty one and twenty five,

591
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: I think in my mock draft I put out on Monday.

592
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: But Matthew Golden, this momentum has been building since the

593
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: college football playoff, and I think he took it and

594
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: ran with it.

595
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 2: So I I don't remember which comp I settled on

596
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: for him, and.

597
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: We doing three and three or like I wanted each position.

598
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: I did three and three. Okay, but you can do

599
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: whatever you want, okay.

600
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: I I don't remember which comp I settled on with him,

601
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: but I think I underestimated him even a little bit.

602
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: With the comp even doesn't sound right? Was it Tyler Lockett? Uh? No?

603
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: That was Jaylen Nowell. I still feel pretty good about

604
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: okay com I was gonna say it doesn't seem right. Yeah.

605
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: So the comp that I tend to like stay away

606
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: from comps like this because it's such a high ceiling

607
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: that you're producing.

608
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: It was Deon Branch. Yeah.

609
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: Who I he's bigger than Dion Branch, So I think

610
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: that that's uh. Deon Branch was a great rapd runner

611
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: in a really fast, you know, explosive, bursty route runner.

612
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: Much bigger than a couple of inches taller was Dealon Bran,

613
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: like five to nine.

614
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: Really.

615
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I've heard a little bit of this just

616
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: talking around or you know, asking around. A couple of

617
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: people threw this one at me. So that's why I

618
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: feel like mentioning it was Stefan Diggs. And I I

619
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: hate to throw Steffan Diggs out there because Stefon Diggs

620
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: a hell of a football player.

621
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: I see where that's coming from, though, I do see

622
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: that's like ceiling, that's a ceiling comp.

623
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but right, there was a couple of people and

624
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs didn't run great in his forty not that

625
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: that matters given the career that he had. So it's

626
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: not you know, if you're going to look at it

627
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: from like a pure you know, mock draftable standpoint, who's

628
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: the best comp It's probably not going to be Steffan

629
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: Diggs for those reasons. But you know, route running, technician,

630
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: speed hands, you know.

631
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: All that type of stuff. There is a little bit

632
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: of that in his game. You know, he he won,

633
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: He he won the week in a lot of ways

634
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: at that position.

635
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: My number one up though, was not was not a

636
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: golden although I agree that that was a good pick.

637
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: My number one up was Shamar Stewart from Texas A.

638
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: So Shamar Stewart goes out, puts up a ten out

639
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: of ten relative athletics score four five nine with a

640
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: forty inch vertical at sixty five two and sixty seven pounds.

641
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 2: Fre freak, an absolute freak, you know, like Superhero hit

642
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: him with the Captain America's here him, Like this guy's

643
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: an absolute cyborg.

644
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: Now that being said, he had one.

645
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: And a half sacks last year and four and a

646
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 2: half sacks in his entire career at Texas A and

647
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: M now sax Is and everything. But if you're gonna

648
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: draft a guy at four overall, you're projecting that he

649
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: is going to be a double digit sack player in.

650
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: The NA, especially teams generally way production more at that

651
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: position than now.

652
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we did have thirty nine pressures last year,

653
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: which isn't terrible. It's not good, but it's not terrible.

654
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: So think, isn't there defense kind of structure like Georgia's though,

655
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: where it's sort of like an everybody eats things. So

656
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: now you can't get one person putting up these massive numbers.

657
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: That's there's something to that. So just along those same lines, yeah,

658
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: it's a little Trayvon Walker ish right, where Trayvon Walker

659
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: did not have great college production, absolutely blew up the

660
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: combine extremely freakish measurables and tools Shamar Stewart when you

661
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: watch them on tape, like the speed to power pops,

662
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: the length, the heavy hands, the explosiveness in his lower

663
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: body to kind of go from the ground up and

664
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: generate power. He just doesn't have a pass rush move like,

665
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a go to move like you know,

666
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: it's crush. It's probably gonna be a long arm, right

667
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: and then if you can get the long arm going,

668
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: then maybe you can get a rip dip rip or

669
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: a ghost or something like that to build off the

670
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: long arm. But right now he just doesn't have great

671
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: nuance to his his pass rush. So if you give

672
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart to Mike Rabel and Terrell Williams, two guys

673
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: with defensive line background that know how to coach pass rushers,

674
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: can you get Shamar Stewart to reach his potential? And

675
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: is that worth the fourth overall pick? Because along with

676
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: thinking a lot about the skill players, you know something

677
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: we've been throwing around, you know, Mike dessau Is was

678
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: probably the leader in this throwing this around on Patriots unfiltered,

679
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: is like, who is the guy that three years from

680
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: now we're all going to look back and say, well,

681
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: they probably should have drafted Yeah, Shamar Stewart fourth overall

682
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: and just lived with the growing pains. I think the

683
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: two most likely guys for that to happen are MIKEL Williams,

684
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: who didn't test but has the same sort of pedigree,

685
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: and Shamar Stewart. So I just felt like mentioning Shamar

686
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: Stewart in this conversation, you know, for those reals.

687
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. I don't on my list too.

688
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: I think he helped himself a ton this week. Yeah,

689
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: all right, who's he got next? I'll stick on defense.

690
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: These aren't in order. I'm just kind of jumping around

691
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: Jahad Campbell. Yeah, I know there are a lot I

692
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: love do it all linebacker from Alabama. If you remember

693
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, how into how much I

694
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: like Henry Toto is a prospect, Right, this is just

695
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: a much better version of Henry to toe and Henry

696
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: Tote is a good player. Yeah. So I know a

697
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: lot of Patriots fans were kind of hoping maybe he

698
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: fell to thirty eight and they could build the defense

699
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: around him. Not seeing it, not seeing how he gets

700
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: a thirty eight, not seeing how he gets out of

701
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: the first round. He might be a top twenty pick. Yeah.

702
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: Just the the athleticism, the size, the reaction, the instincts

703
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: of the football, IQ, all of it. He's the complete package.

704
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: And what's crazy, he's probably not even the best off

705
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: ball linebacker in this class, but he's really freaking good,

706
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: very good player.

707
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: I thought he was great on film, played great in

708
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: some big games for Alabama too.

709
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: That the typical.

710
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: Prototype linebacker nowadays, like still has a little bit of size,

711
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: but goes sideline to sideline, carries the seam and you

712
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: know cover two, like can run vertical with tight ends,

713
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: can cover backs out of the backfield, can spy quarterbacks

714
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: and chase down athletic quarterbacks. Like if you you know

715
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 2: Josh Allen right, like you can put Gehide Campbell in

716
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: a spiral all game long. He can reduce you know,

717
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: he can go down on the line of scrimmage and

718
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: rush the passer off the edge. Really good player, like

719
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: really just good all around football player. And that it's

720
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: not something I'm totally dismissing that playmaking linebacker, Like he's

721
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 2: got to bring something for me in the pass rush,

722
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: which I think Jihad Campbell does and so does Jalen Walker.

723
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: But then yeah, right.

724
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: But like that play making ability from the first and

725
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: second level in the defense to make the splash play,

726
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: Like it's one thing to blow up a run game

727
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: or something like that, but who's going to be the

728
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: guy against the ball carrier on the ground, right, You

729
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: know those two guys can do that, all right. My

730
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: next one, we've already mentioned him a little bit though,

731
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 2: is Arma Membu.

732
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he just he just beasted.

733
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: He had a ninety first percentile ten yard split. He

734
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 2: benched thirty one reps on the bench press, nine point

735
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: nine to eight. Relative Athletics score So the one thing

736
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 2: that I would say on Membo that gave me a

737
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: little bit of hesitation, it's not even the right tackle thing.

738
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: I don't mind that. Like the Chargers just drafted Joe

739
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: Alton made him a right tackle, and I don't think

740
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: they're complaining about that. The one thing that I worried

741
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: about a little bit is that he's shorter, like just

742
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: he's a stockier shorter. Yeah, like his a shorter guy.

743
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: I know we're saying he's sixty four, and the people

744
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: are like, that's not short, Like it's short for an NFL.

745
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: Tackle, it's average. It's short. It's six four, it's below

746
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 1: the fiftieth I would say, said six Really that many

747
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: tackles that?

748
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Ozzie Tripilla was six eight.

749
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: I would think like six' four would be like the

750
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: basement of WHERE i wouldn't call you, short right like six.'

751
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: Three now i'm thinking short tackles. Six' four like he's

752
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: on the shorter. Side of average. That's fair exact but

753
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: so he's he's, a little shorter a little bit more

754
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: of that like, stout compact build but he's not he's,

755
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: got long arms thirty three and, a half inches so

756
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: he's above threshold. WITH the arms i think the, one

757
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: thing though, what you know just in terms, of THE

758
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: height that i, Think, is important, Yeah stride length like

759
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: stride length is really important because It Might take shamar

760
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: stewart three steps, to, get somewhere yeah and It takes

761
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: armand membu five steps. To get somewhere and so it's

762
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: the same thing THE conversation that i bring up a

763
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: lot of The Time, with mason graham where it's like

764
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of, that, pitter pattern right like we

765
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: got to take some extra steps to, get to places especially.

766
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: In past PROTECTION so When I watched arman, MEMBU on

767
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: film i just saw some of that, where you know

768
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: he's got to work a little bit harder to get

769
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: out to landmarks and things like that because he is a, little,

770
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: Bit stubbier right so that would be my only.

771
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: Concern with him but his athleticism and his ability to

772
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: convert that into power is all over the. Tape like

773
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: that this workout surprised me just because of how, amazing

774
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 2: it was but it didn't surprise me, that, He's athletic

775
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: right that's the type of player. That he is and,

776
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: to your point If You. Sign ronnie stanley even If

777
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: You sign cam robinson And You draft arman membu to,

778
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: play right tackle and then you have your left tackle and,

779
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: your right tackle you're.

780
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: In, pretty shape yeah and then it's we know and

781
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: when who's? Gonna Be, Back david andrews and then it's

782
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: just figuring out. That left, card all? Right who's next

783
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: let's SEE who did? I? Get to UH this is

784
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: i know he's, on Your list but i'll. SAY it

785
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: anyway i think he's. On Your list MASON. Taylor. From

786
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: lsu yeah, really good. Workout really good he's just. Like,

787
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: so POLISHED yeah which i think, he's twenty right he's

788
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: twenty years old and he and this is again it's

789
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: all over the tape you SEE. It at lsu like

790
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: he's really advanced, for his age just as a, football

791
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: player's technique his ability to, see the field. Things like

792
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: that so what stood out to me not so much like,

793
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: the number testing but like going through, the gauntlet right

794
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: going through some of the, on field drills like the,

795
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: pass catching drills hitting. THE blocking sled a lot of the.

796
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: TIGHT ends struggled i was underwhelmed with the tight end workout.

797
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: AS a whole i Should note That warren and loveland,

798
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: didn't work Out and gunner helm sprained his ankle before

799
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: he had a, chance to run so. That didn't help

800
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: but he's just so advanced for where he's at. At

801
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: this point when It Comes, to mason. Taylor, it's impressive.

802
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah really just, Natural hands catcher like, through that gauntlet it.

803
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: Just looked easy.

804
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: He looked smooth he was right. On the line it

805
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: didn't look he wasn't fighting the. Ball at all he's.

806
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: An impressive player, and you know you can tell with

807
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: some of those, guys that, they're you know. Sons, of

808
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 2: coaches yeah like they just have such great or sons.

809
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: OF former players i should.

810
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: Say they have he is a coach? Now does coach

811
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: he's like He, might have No he's at miami. Like,

812
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: THE you, yeah I think if, I'M remembering correct i

813
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: think he's one of those like director of player. Development,

814
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: OR something Yeah i if, I'M remembering correct i didn't

815
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: have him on my list because he didn't he. Didn't

816
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: do it he's the defensive ends COACH.

817
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 2: At, the u okay so He Didn't do mason taylor

818
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: didn't do, all THE testing. SO i didn't i kind

819
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: of stuck to the testing. Guys for This But. With

820
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: mason taylor, Just Last thing mike Rabel Was in jason

821
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: taylor's draft class and and the two, of them, supposedly

822
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: you know This Is a. Mike rabel story he told

823
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: us A story and i think he told IT again

824
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: on nfl at work because Of the Of, Taylor, and vrabel.

825
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: Yeah being close in the.

826
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: In the alphabet they spent like all week together, At

827
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: the combine So He knows jason. Taylor pretty well and

828
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: those are the types OF connections that i LOOK at

829
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: AND i think nfl bloodlines and things like that are

830
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: gonna matter a little bit To Somebody. Like Mike Rabel

831
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: so mason taylor is definitely. Big, Boar guy right he's

832
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: squarely on. The big board there's no.

833
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:25,959
Speaker 1: Doubt About.

834
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 2: That all right THE last ONE i had i combine

835
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: both these guys together because they went to.

836
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: THE same school i. Mentioned, HIM already, wait, i Guess

837
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: yeah the. Oregon, defensive, tackles no oh they should both.

838
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: Be On, there, Derek Harmon, yeah mark cauldwell they. WERE

839
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: both good i always.

840
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: State WIDE receivers so i was Blown Away that jayden

841
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: higgins ran at four four seven blown away by that

842
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: he doesn't play to a, four four seven which obviously

843
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 2: gives you a little. Bit OF pause but, i actually

844
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 2: wonder now some receivers are like this because they're crafty

845
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: as hell. And it's smart is he just a tempo

846
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: guy where like he knows he'd like it's not always

847
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 2: best to just open, It up right so he might

848
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: be one of those guys that tries to like lull,

849
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,479
Speaker 2: you to sleep and then he's gonna and he's gonna

850
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: go past you with speed when, he needs to and

851
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: might go about. IT that way i love receivers like that, that.

852
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 2: Change gears right they're not always if you're, a six

853
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 2: speed you're always gonna be in, six, Gear right right

854
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: sometimes you want to be like in the second gear

855
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 2: right and just kind of well the. Guys to sleep

856
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: so he ran a. FOUR four seven i thought he

857
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: was really. Tested extremely well he has basically solidified himself

858
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: as THE number two x receiver, in THIS class and

859
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: i don't think. It's particularly, close You know it's, tet

860
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: number one And Then it's jayden higgins's number two in

861
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: that big, body you know sixty THREE sixty four x

862
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: receiver mold and, Then My guy jalen, noel just, like

863
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: my goodness what a what a workout all the, way, through,

864
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: explosiveness agilities speed four three nine in the.

865
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: Forty yard dash i've Compared Him.

866
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: To Tyler lockett tyler lockett actually just got Released, by

867
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: the seahawks so we can talk about that here. In

868
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: A minute but i Don't Think that jalen Noel Is

869
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: A Julian edelman wes. Welker Slot receiver jalen noel is

870
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: A Speed slot jalen noel can is going to separate at.

871
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: The third level he's, gonna run post he's, gonna run

872
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: overs he's gonna run seams, and go balls and he's

873
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 2: gonna stack guys like he's gonna. Run past people he's

874
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: an explosive player and he's a. Great ROUTE runner so

875
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: i don't see him getting out of.

876
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 4: The.

877
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: TOP fifty now i think he's he's a. Really good

878
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: player so, those two guys you want to just wrap

879
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: a fire through the, rest OF mine. BECAUSE i did

880
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: i didn't. DO any quarterbacks i didn't think, Anything, now.

881
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: Good Nope terrible donovan Edwards Running back Michigan isaac to

882
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: Slaw wide receiver arkansas and then just respond to whoever.

883
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: You Want Cornerback Darian porter iowa state Kind Of like

884
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: darian port if YOU know how i. Do the draft

885
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: that's such a of Course He. Likes darian Porter And

886
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: then billy bowman With. Safety From Oklahoma.

887
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: So darian porter interests me because, of, The, size right

888
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: like he's. Got some size he's got some.

889
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: Just some size he's six three and he HAD the

890
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: longest i think longest arms been corner he's got and

891
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: he ran a. Four to three, he's got athleticism. He's got,

892
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: size you know.

893
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: IF you're trying i don't know if this is necessarily

894
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: where they're gonna go, early at cornerback but if you

895
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: want to Pair Somebody, With, christian gonzales.

896
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah there was some reporting that they're looking for like

897
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: those day two. Corners with size. It's veryan. Portant you

898
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: Know It. Is tarik woland who's The Guy? FROM kansas,

899
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: state i like who went?

900
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: To?

901
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: The, Cults, Juju brent brent like it's, that you know

902
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: here's that Guy again that i'm gonna like in the draft,

903
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: because big, corner run fast.

904
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: Big, YOU'RE simple, man i mean like that's a good

905
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 2: way and.

906
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: He's agile too he's not a. Straight line athlete, so it's,

907
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: like all right he has size and he can move

908
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: around like that's a good floor. To start with so,

909
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: all right, there all right are gonna get to? The,

910
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: downs here yeah two of my guys.

911
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: Are, on this list which you know. It kills me

912
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: you know. IT kills me.

913
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: I gotta go i got some of my guys, on

914
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: here too so so number one and some. OF YOUR

915
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: guys i i was.

916
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: Hesitant to put him here because he. Still killed it

917
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: he saw. A Great Workout but will. Campbell's gotta go.

918
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: He has to. He has to. It's he's guard it's

919
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: not like he measured, in, just short right it significantly

920
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: so thirty two.

921
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: AND five days i know a lot of people are

922
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: more alarmed by the seventy. Seven, inch wingspan yeah which

923
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: is would be basically.

924
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: One of one it Was the so felger, had this

925
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: yesterday the shortest wingspan of any tackle to measure in

926
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: it at the combine since. Nineteen ninety nine so not even like,

927
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: first round pick not even like guys who made a,

928
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: pro like it just it. Has not happened he would

929
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: be if you still believe in him, as, a tackle like.

930
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: Good for you you're talking about him, being an alien

931
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: you're talking about him being a truly generational, once you

932
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: know one of. A, Kind Player, goodbye. SWEET prince goodbye

933
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: i have another. Guy ON here can i just piggyback,

934
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: Off That? Rext, SWEET prince yeah i Kind Of put

935
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: mason graham in, that same category not to. The, same,

936
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: extent WELL no but, i just mean like the reason

937
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: we Were Talking about mason graham is a top five

938
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: pick because my scoutner report on you go find at

939
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: ninety five sports dot com nice moves like a Player

940
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: TWENTY pa and I don't think i said it, exactly

941
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: like this, but it's like moves like a player much lighter. Than,

942
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: he is well it turns out he's much lighter than,

943
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: he was listed so that kind. Of makes Sense What

944
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: made mason graham such a special player in theory was

945
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: there's not a ton of three hundred and twenty five

946
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: pound defensive tackles moving the way. He was moving there

947
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: are some two hundred and ninety five pound defensive tackles that, moved,

948
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: That way right and he's a Good Player, Like, Braidon

949
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: Fisk right bradon fist is. A GOOD player why i

950
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: got tarred and feathered for Making, that can no, You

951
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: were right you. Were Exactly Right and braidon fisk is.

952
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: A good player Would You take bradon fisk in? The

953
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: top five probably take him higher than wherever he went?

954
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: Fortieth last, year but Like He's not mason Graham is

955
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: a and this is why it's a Different extent To Will,

956
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: campbecause will campbell you're talking. About changing Positions It's a.

957
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: Tyler lockett update But Like, with mason graham he's not

958
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: the prototype of player we necessarily. Thought HE was and

959
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: i don't know that he played a. TWO ninety five

960
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: i think he played probably right around three hundred and,

961
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: Three oh, five, but like yeah there's a big difference

962
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: between three oh five, and three twenty especially when you

963
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: factor in like his arm length came, in SHORT, too so,

964
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: i you know for the measurements and he didn't work,

965
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: out at all but for the ME like when i

966
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: sait like to the, on field workouts but for the

967
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: measurements being, what they are it's kind Of. Similar to

968
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: campbell is he still? A? Good player yes is he

969
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: a good player in the sense that we thought he

970
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 1: was and is he, a good, player you know top

971
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: five pick kind. Of, good player no there's significally more

972
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: questions now that come.

973
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: With his makeup so the One last thing I'll Add,

974
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: on mason graham There's Cops. For mason graham it's a

975
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 2: SMOOTHER cop than i would say that It Is with

976
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: will campbell.

977
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: Out of tackle but you know there Is no comper will.

978
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 1: Cambl at tackle that's. The whole point they kept Trying

979
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: to make michael ruse a thing that that's not The

980
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: Comp leaving aaron donald Out Because, he's, aaron donald right

981
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: it's he's Retired to the we're not going to Compare Quarterbacks.

982
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 4: To.

983
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: Tom brady right, if You're Saying well aaron donald was,

984
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: with that size well maybe, the tack okay so he

985
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: be the best defensive tackle mastery.

986
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: So, The guy no so the guys that that he

987
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: should be TOUTING as like, i you Know can be

988
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: this kind of guy is Like an end oliver who

989
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: is also like six three two, ninety ninety five a

990
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: guy that a lot of. People Are, projecting come monday.

991
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: Was it is it? TWELVE or four i always Forget.

992
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: ON on monday i think, It's.

993
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: Twelve uh monday at, twelve Oh one the patriots are

994
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: going to strike A Deal with milton williams at the top.

995
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: Of free agency, i'm saying hypothetically.

996
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: If they Do they will It's, four, O'clock wednesday right.

997
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: So hypothetically if, they You Know. May Milton williams milton

998
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: williams plays at like. Two, ninety, Five yeah right so

999
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: you're there are some comps out there for. Guys like

1000
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 2: that it's just you're projecting at four overall that this

1001
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: is gonna be a guy you never take, off the

1002
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: field so like not on top of the fact that

1003
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: you know at, TWO ninety five i think that you're

1004
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: really saying that he has to, play three technique like

1005
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: he has to play over the guard, or outside, RIGHT

1006
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: you know i say outside like, outside, The shoulders right

1007
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: so like you can't play him at one, tech or

1008
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 2: nos like he, can't play right he's, gonna get bullied

1009
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: so you have to put him further away, from the

1010
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: football and that just it just is kind of like how,

1011
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: we talk, About You, Know xavier restreppa like this guy's

1012
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: a slot and he's. Only A slot mason graham is

1013
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: now only A THREE technique now i think you could

1014
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: probably play like three four end if you want. To

1015
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: get technical but it's the same, thing right now instead,

1016
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 2: of three tech you're A four eye like it's it's

1017
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: we're bumping over a half a half a yard. If,

1018
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: that right so like we're talking about, the same thing.

1019
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: And you're not gonna have a guy play like three eye.

1020
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: In for it you're not gonna have two guys in

1021
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: the same, Field, Right spots right so it becomes it's

1022
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: not that he's a.

1023
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: Bad football, player you know someone that we had on

1024
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: said they called him, a, Leverage king right he's just.

1025
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: Gets underneath you he's. Really really strong he can. Get

1026
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: underneath you he's got, that wrestling background so he's really violent,

1027
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: with his hands and he's great with leverage and pad.

1028
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: Level and all that.

1029
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: Kind of stuff but because, of his measurables he is

1030
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: going to have to be a technician that outworks everybody

1031
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: like that's gonna be his path to being great. In

1032
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: the league and that's it just feels a little a

1033
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: little rich. At, four overall yeah for that that kind,

1034
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: OF skill set i, agree with. That, all right uh

1035
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: the next, guy on here.

1036
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: Do you want to do a is me at colpa.

1037
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: The RIGHT word now i want to do a met. Colpa

1038
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: on test johnson are doing The victory. Lap on test he's.

1039
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: On, my list, okay and UH just like I Said, with,

1040
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: will Campbell. Goodbye, sweet prince uh it turns out the,

1041
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 2: question wasn't fast and it was can?

1042
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 1: He, be fast. Well he's. Quick he's, quick he's, quick,

1043
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: not fast yes but he's also one hundred and, fifty

1044
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: four pounds so one hundred. And, fifty five uh. Here's

1045
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: the thing they changed that because it definitely was one

1046
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: fifty four. IN the pact i wrote down. One fifty

1047
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: five it was one hundred fifty Four in BRON so.

1048
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: Because. I, can't quit Yeah By tes johnson love he

1049
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: tested exactly the Same.

1050
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: As tank out but he. Didn't he did he. Didn't

1051
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: he did he Did not test johnson numbers he because he.

1052
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: Didn't he did he ran a four. Or Five one

1053
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: tant dell ran a four. To four Nine That's different

1054
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: Tan dell tank dell to. Hundredth, of us yes that's what.

1055
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: The combine is That's. Absolutely Tank tal tank Tell's also

1056
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: tank tell's also. Twelve Pounds, heavier tes johnson they showed

1057
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: it was he was on. My downs list you don't

1058
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: have to ran this.

1059
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 6: On my.

1060
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: Player in the history, of the combine it. Was not good,

1061
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: if you're, four five five if you're if you, have

1062
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 1: a four if you're running a four or five speed

1063
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: at one hundred and. Fifty four POUNDS that's why I

1064
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: right wrote dow one hundred and fifty five because the

1065
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: first quick was four. Or, five five okay so. He's

1066
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: gonna run you're gonna have him run return routes and

1067
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: that's all he's gonna do because you can't send him

1068
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: over the top and you can't send him in the middle. Of,

1069
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: the field well you can have.

1070
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 2: One field workout he had the fastest go we're out,

1071
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: At the combine.

1072
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: But how long did it take him to get up?

1073
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: To That speed all i'm telling you IS is that

1074
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 2: i do Think he's got.

1075
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: This doesn't sound like a guy's on. Your down list he's.

1076
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: A downs list he's one hundred and, fifty five, pounds

1077
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: soaking wet and he ran a four. Or five one

1078
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: you can't that's not. A good combination it's. It's really

1079
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: not you can't send him over. The middle field it's

1080
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: gonna be tough to send him.

1081
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: Down the field if you just want to have run

1082
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: a return routes and and and you know short, outs

1083
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: all game you, Can do that but how high are you?

1084
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: Picking that guy.

1085
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: So that was my Next Point, about test johnson because

1086
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: you don't have to take YOUR victory lap i admitted

1087
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: that he that he tanked, and all right no Pun Intended.

1088
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: With tank dell he had a bat your couching, A,

1089
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: little bit yeah, because he's. Quick, not fast also to

1090
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: go Back To the, mason graham thing he ran the.

1091
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: Fastest three cone, that's not nothing, It's not nothing but

1092
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: you're going to Compare Him. To tanked, dell, so then

1093
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: yeah why Can't We compare mason Graham To. To aaron

1094
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: Donald Is. Not tank dell that's He's a tank tell's

1095
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: an anomaly to a Different Extent, than Aaron Donald but tanked.

1096
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: Dell's an anomaly comparing Him to tankd dell is saying

1097
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: he's going to, be another anomaly and you can't. Necessarily

1098
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: do that.

1099
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 2: So he's not as fast as this player in the

1100
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: forty because he's not fast as anybody apparently. In the,

1101
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: forty but like if you don't want to comp Him

1102
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: to tank dell because you don't think that he's good

1103
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: enough to.

1104
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: Reach that ceiling like Two two at well is like kind.

1105
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: OF the floor i don't even remember what Two two.

1106
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: At well ran he, Ran pretty well i'm pretty sure

1107
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 2: off the top, of My Head but i've i'm sure if,

1108
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 2: IT was comparable i would have remembered right to use

1109
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: that to. Support, my argument so like the floor seems

1110
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: to be like a Two, two at well who's like

1111
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 2: more like production wise has kind Of Been like pop

1112
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: douglas two ran. Four, Three, nine yeah no. HE'S much

1113
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: faster i said. He Was Faster now tank dell is

1114
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: like still the ceiling. Camp to me with all, that

1115
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: being said my Question Now, at tess Johnson Like does tes?

1116
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: Johnson get drafted like are we sure where he's?

1117
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: Gonna Get drafted so i'm gonna go back to my

1118
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: Comp Which, is devin tompkins who he's. AT four four

1119
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: i don't somebody may draft him late just because of

1120
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: the three CONE and the, Gps tracking speed i'd say

1121
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna. Have like it he's a very specific. You're

1122
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: gonna use he's gonna. Be gadget player he's not a full.

1123
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: Time wide receiver somebody might draft him, as GADGET player

1124
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: and i think he might have. Some success there you're.

1125
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: Not taking it you're certainly not taking gadget players in the,

1126
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: top one hundred not. The top, fifty you know there

1127
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: are some teams that do some things more creative offensively

1128
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: that may say we, can kind, of you know wiggle

1129
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: in a. ROLE for him i wonder if a Team, like,

1130
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: the ravens right does you do some of that some

1131
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: of them almost like you're sort of using like a

1132
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: running Back Or like zay Flowers Or. Like. Zay FLOWERS

1133
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: right so i still think, he GETS drafted but i.

1134
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: Think he was he was projected fringe top fifty pick

1135
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: Coming Out. Of, senior bowl right. That's not happening that's.

1136
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: NOT happening. TOO i know i always say you don't

1137
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: move players draft stock too much during coming out of

1138
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: the combine outside. Of extenuating circumstances weighing in at one

1139
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: fifty four is, in extenuating circumstance especially when you run

1140
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: a four or five? Tough all right who was? On

1141
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: your list who was? On ear? List all right so

1142
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: you you you did that for one, Of your guys

1143
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,479
Speaker 1: i'll do it for one. Of my guys just both

1144
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: my guys. Just killing me i'll do it for one.

1145
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 3: Of.

1146
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: My guys yeah we talked about how awesome the running, back,

1147
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: group was right and they're Great Except.

1148
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 4: For.

1149
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: Allie gordon yeah part OF the reason I Like all

1150
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: it gordon, Is, on film like there's a reason you

1151
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of, six foot two six foot.

1152
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: Three running backs it's hard to be nimble when you're

1153
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: that tall and you have. That Long Legs watching alli,

1154
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: GORDON on film, i was like this guy moves pretty

1155
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: well for somebody who's six two. Or six three it

1156
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: wasn't there to combine like he's stumbling through. Those bag

1157
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: drills did not get out of the gate good, on

1158
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: the forty especially in a class that. Is so good

1159
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: he left a lot of meat. On THE bones so

1160
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: i was talking about him as maybe like a fringe top.

1161
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: One HUNDRED pick now i think you're probably in that

1162
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: one fifty to two hundred. Range FOR him so i

1163
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: wanted to See More. FORM molly goardon i really want

1164
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: to See More, for molly gordon especially in. THOSE agility

1165
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: drills i THOUGHT that's where i didn't think he was

1166
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: gonna be the best AT him that i thought for

1167
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: his size he would, impress and no he looked like

1168
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: a six foot. Three running back so THE last one

1169
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: i have here is.

1170
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 2: Not necessarily directly Related, To the, Patriots But yeah tyler

1171
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: booker had a rough combine The, guard from, alabama and

1172
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 2: uh THE reason why.

1173
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: I still think he's a first round that guy's. An

1174
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: eagle man you can. Put that in so THE reason

1175
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: why i.

1176
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: Put him on here is because there's always, a domino,

1177
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: effect right like if one less guy is going to

1178
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 2: go in, the first round or is going to go

1179
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: in between four, and thirty eight then It impacts the

1180
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: patriots up the Board Or A donovan Jackson Jackson, from ohio,

1181
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: state right like so like they'd always everything always. Has An,

1182
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: EFFECT tyler booker i think is still going to get

1183
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: drafted based.

1184
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: ON the tape i think you're gonna. Trust the tape

1185
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna get, Think he's no i'm.

1186
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: In, first, round, YEAH okay yeah i think a lot

1187
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: of teams are going to still trust the. Tape with

1188
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: him but he would be a out testing outlier to

1189
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: be a first round.

1190
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: Pick.

1191
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: At guard right not only is, he a guard but

1192
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: he's also. An unathletic guard on, top of that also

1193
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: just people. That were there we Weren't. There On sunday

1194
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: brandon thorne, was there though and some OTHER people. That

1195
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 2: i trust we're just saying that even in the, on

1196
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: field workout. He looked rough so. Maybe he's hurt maybe

1197
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: like maybe there's an injury there that we. Don't Know

1198
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: About but tyler booker was a guy that a lot

1199
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: of people saw as like a top twenty player, in

1200
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 2: this class and he did not have.

1201
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: A good day i'll give. You, one more yeah kind.

1202
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: Of same thing just didn't. Have the Testing And. That's,

1203
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: harold fannin yeah he's, had you know didn't Really Have

1204
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: the senior bowl you were hoping.

1205
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 2: He, would have yeah he was like an average to

1206
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: above average tester and, said.

1207
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: Right now, he's you know didn't Pop At the senior

1208
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 1: bowl at THE combine and i thought he looked rough

1209
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: on the on. Field drills too that the blocking rep and,

1210
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: it's one rep but that. Was, pretty bad yeah you

1211
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: know the idea OF him being i don't know that

1212
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: he gets into. The top fifty he might go, a

1213
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: little LATER especially when i think the more you learn

1214
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: about this, tight end class, even You know gunner helm

1215
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: was on my list and then he find out he

1216
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: sprained his ankle before. He began, TESTING so like i

1217
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: feel LIKE the more i find out, about this CLASS

1218
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: the more i like from the tight, ends and well

1219
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: all these guys are. GOING one way I Feel like

1220
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: harold fan is. Going, Another Way yeah haarow fan. And

1221
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: terrifies Me, for the patriots it's The, Compass, john why yeah.

1222
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 3: It's Very Easy.

1223
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: He's johnny smith it's the scheme touch thing again and,

1224
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: it's just yeah like usage. And, All, THAT yeah like

1225
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 1: i just don't think he's a Great fit. FOR josh

1226
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 1: McDaniels i, don't, think SO right and. I would worry

1227
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: you know who was good though with that position group

1228
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: that is a Good fit. For Josh. McDaniels robbie oots

1229
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: he had the best vertical of any player over two

1230
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy pounds since like two thousand and. Three or.

1231
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: Something that's power that's. Power right there you want we

1232
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: want them to, have, a fullback right we want them

1233
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: to bring the full back back and do, some of

1234
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: that but like maybe modernize it a little bit involving

1235
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: involvement in, The past game oots looked good. CATCHING the

1236
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 1: football i thought. He tested Well he. LOVES bill O'Brien

1237
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: i got to. Talk to him He raved about bill

1238
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: O'Brien in. The patriots offense we Talked To, little heath

1239
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: evans which was cool throwback name there THAT he knows

1240
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: i Should Have put robbie oots. ON my uplist I regret.

1241
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: That i, Didn't all right.

1242
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 2: So that's a wrap. ON the combine i hope you

1243
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,879
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1244
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,799
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1261
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1262
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,200
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1263
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:05,360
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1264
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,479
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1265
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,080
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1266
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:11,439
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1267
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,280
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1268
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks very much appreciate.

1269
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: YOU guys anytime, i.

1270
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 4: You Know watching the bears from a distance And mindful

1271
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,560
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1272
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,880
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1273
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 4: Seems like the bears are starting. To execute that what?

1274
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 4: Do you think what, do you feel you guys the

1275
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 4: positions that might need to be filled in free agency

1276
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 4: or trades for that draft to Come to the patriots, If,

1277
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 4: you will.

1278
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Awesome question george thanks for calling in and sort

1279
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: of something we talked about a little bit earlier on.

1280
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: IN the show i. LOOK at tackle i still think

1281
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: ideally you don't have to go tackle for overall, in

1282
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: this draft or at, least you Know maybe it's Membo

1283
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: and be you're you're already forming that with a left tackle,

1284
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: That you signed so now you're completing the offensive line

1285
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: by making. THAT draft pick i, look AT that and

1286
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: i look AT RECEIVER like i i kind of made

1287
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: The case, for TED earlier but i do love it

1288
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: if you can go out and, get you, know a

1289
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: receiver even two veteran receivers that you feel like you

1290
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: can run, the offense through then you can go one of,

1291
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: these pass rushers best player available, At four OVERALL that's where. I,

1292
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: would start, Yeah all right PATTY is an agu?

1293
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 5: On?

1294
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: What's up patty how? Are we doing.

1295
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 4: What?

1296
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: Is?

1297
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 7: Going ON joe so i got a got kind of,

1298
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 7: a funny statement and then throw you. Guys a question

1299
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 7: so remember two WEEKS ago when, I called, in I

1300
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 7: said abdul carter Reminded Me. Of von miller now who

1301
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 7: did he say he molded his game after?

1302
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: At, The?

1303
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 7: Combine, guys.

1304
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: Miller.

1305
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, Von, Miller listen patty. Patty's old school been watching

1306
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 7: football for almost. Forty years now i'm not, LIKE you

1307
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 7: know i don't break the film down like. YOU guys

1308
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 7: do i don't pay as MUCH attention as, i used to,

1309
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 7: But You know i'm i'm still good for a pretty

1310
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 7: good comp Here AND there god i hope He's THERE

1311
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 7: for but i just wanted, to talk about, you know

1312
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 7: what these. Guys Getting, Released Tyler Lockett. CHRISTIAN christian Kirk

1313
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 7: I Love tyl tyler lockett since. He came out he

1314
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 7: reminded me A Lot, of BEYOND branch but i feel

1315
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 7: like he's a little bit on.

1316
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: The.

1317
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 7: OLDER side now i would be All In on christian

1318
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 7: kirk to be. Our slot receiver, he's probably, cheaper you

1319
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 7: know less less of an injury Question Than. And chris,

1320
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 7: godwin but also like you guys, talked about IT the

1321
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 7: guy i really would love to see them get in

1322
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 7: this Year's Draft is dalen noel, because to me like,

1323
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 7: he You know he's i'm Not Comparing, to tyreek kill

1324
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 7: but just, for his size, he's rocked up YOU know.

1325
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 7: What i mean he's like, two hundred, pounds he's solid

1326
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 7: and he's so freaking quick and he's so great and

1327
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 7: then out. OF his breaks i don't want to get

1328
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 7: my hopes. Up too MUCH but, like i know you guys,

1329
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 7: talked about, him but realistically do you think like that

1330
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 7: would be a reach to take him? At Thirty eight

1331
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 7: and i'll take, it. Off there guys you guys.

1332
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: Are, The, best thanks.

1333
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 2: Patty, appreciate it yeah good Shot with von miller that he.

1334
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: Nailed that one that that's, a you Know Everybody says

1335
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 2: michael parsons because he wears eleven and He Plays for

1336
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: penn state and plays the Same Position As Michael parsons

1337
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 2: abdual carter.

1338
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: We're TALKING about but, i you know he.

1339
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: Uses a lot of the same Rush Moves, that von,

1340
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 2: miller you know uses that ghost rush and. Things LIKE

1341
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: that SO i can i can definitely see that. To

1342
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: The Receivers so Christian Kirk, and tyler lockett for.

1343
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: Those, that aren't aware. Are now available they are being

1344
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: Released by the Jaguars. And The seahawks christian kirk's a.

1345
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: Little bit younger i've always. Liked the eight I've Always.

1346
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: Liked christian kirk he has he's banged up a, little

1347
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 2: BIT though right i think he's had a couple of

1348
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: injury years last.

1349
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: COUPLE of years i know he was. Hurt, Last year

1350
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: yeah lockett is one of my favorite receivers. In the

1351
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: league he's. Just, thirty two yeah it's just getting it's catching. Up.

1352
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: TO him uh i, WOULD say that i don't know

1353
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: if either one, Of these guys i'm like banging the

1354
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: table for them going. Out AND grabbing if i, HAD

1355
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: to pick i would probably just go with the age.

1356
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: And Go with christian kirk and go with.

1357
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: The YOUNGER PLAYER but i i want to TRY to

1358
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: and i have a list OF guys that, i YOU

1359
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: know what i would do in FREE agency that i

1360
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: want to get to here. In A second but i

1361
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 2: Understand The impulse DeVante adams Because, at, least patriots, right

1362
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: you know do, THE mean right I. WOULD take adams I,

1363
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: Would TAKE adams but i want to get away from the, Impulse,

1364
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: of like okay this is a recognizable, brand name receiver

1365
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 2: so we need every single one of Those, Should be,

1366
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 2: patriots like yes but.

1367
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: It's just because you like one receiver is. A big

1368
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: name shouldn't be accused, Of Doing That like i'm I'm Good. On,

1369
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: amari cooper yeah AS much As I love stefan diggs

1370
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: COMING off the acl. That, worries Me, YEAH LIKE adams

1371
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: i i he was in not just one of the

1372
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,959
Speaker 1: worst situations in, football last year two of the worst,

1373
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: situations in football because he Went from the Raiders of

1374
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: the jets and still had eighty catches for. A thousand

1375
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: yards even if he drops off by, Twenty, five percent

1376
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: like just knock that production off, twenty five percent he

1377
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: still would Have been the patriots leading. Receiver last year

1378
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: THE only Thing. I love adams i'm not giving him five,

1379
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: years or anything but you can get him for two,

1380
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: Years front loaded like that makes all the sense in the.

1381
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: World to me.

1382
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 2: So THE reason why i the ONLY reason why i

1383
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't be super Gung ho about, adams is like what's

1384
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 2: his motivation for coming? Here besides money and is he

1385
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: gonna come here and he's. Gonna be paid he's probably

1386
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 2: gonna be the highest paid guy. In the room like

1387
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: is this gonna be a country? Club for him or

1388
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: is he gonna be is he gonna be trying?

1389
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: To to me the pitch would be if he's getting

1390
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: because he was, he thirty one, two thirty two if

1391
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: he thinks he can get one. More big deal you

1392
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:08,439
Speaker 1: pitch him, One year contract you offer him significantly more

1393
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: over that one year than anybody's gonna give him for,

1394
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: two or three and he knows like he's gonna get

1395
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: a hundred twenty hundred and thirty, targets playing here and

1396
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: now next year you get to hit the market and

1397
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: maybe cash in. One more time that would be the,

1398
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: pitch to me and maybe somebody will give him. Longer term,

1399
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: security but Like if it's i'm trying to think of

1400
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: the numbers that that wouldn't. Be ridiculous here but if,

1401
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,439
Speaker 1: it's like okay if it's if it's a, two year

1402
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: thirty two year thirty, million, dollar deal yeah or a

1403
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: one year twenty, million dollar, deal you say like you're

1404
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: selling him on that one, Year twenty million so next

1405
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: year you maybe go out and get two for forty

1406
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: or two for forty five or. Something like, THAT fair

1407
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: enough I JUST look and i don't know that, he

1408
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: takes that but that WOULD be my i think you can.

1409
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: MAKE the pitch i don't know, that IT wins but

1410
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: i think you can. Make the pitch age is a

1411
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: factor for me in. All, of this yeah with, ALL

1412
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: these guys i Don't Love, It DeVante.

1413
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 2: ADAMS tyler LOCKETT i just i WANT to if I,

1414
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: WAS the patriots i would just be keeping in mind

1415
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: that you're, in, a window, right, and like yes having

1416
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 2: a professional receiver on The Team, Like devanta adams and

1417
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 2: let me, just say this If They, Signed devanta adams

1418
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 2: i'm not going to have a pitchfork out and like.

1419
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 2: BE rioting That i think i'd be.

1420
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: Happy about it it's. A professional receiver it's a.

1421
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 2: Really Good one like i'm not saying that it's like

1422
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 2: this worst move of all time or, anything LIKE that

1423
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 2: but i just think that you ideally Want A pair

1424
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 2: drake may with somebody that he has, some runway with

1425
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: that he's gonna.

1426
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: Grow with and that he's gonna play with for a. Couple,

1427
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: of years yes but if that guy, is not available

1428
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: which he, Might, not be yeah just getting him that to,

1429
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: use the phrase he used a professional receiver, in the

1430
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: building even, for one. Year is beneficial I'm not taking,

1431
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: adams over like If let's say, higgins, became available, Right

1432
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,439
Speaker 1: you know I'm not Taking. Adams over higgins But if

1433
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: It's Adams or Darius slayton Or Adams or Amari cooper

1434
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 1: Or Adams. OR stefan diggs I think. It's adams clear

1435
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: adams in a different class than any. Of THOSE guys

1436
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: And i Think kirk and locket are different because it's.

1437
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: A DIFFERENT role and i wouldn't load up all. On

1438
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: Older receivers but kirk has been a guy that's been

1439
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty target guy that can can catch

1440
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: a hundred passes and wear the contact over the middle and.

1441
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: THINGS like that i know the production was really bad Last.

1442
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: Year in jacksonville the offense was really bad Last year

1443
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: in jacksonville, as a Whole Outside, of brian thomas nobody

1444
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: was looking good coming. Out of that i'm not giving

1445
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: him a bunch. Of guaranteed money But If it's christian

1446
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: kirk coming in, to compete, with You Know a jalen noel,

1447
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: or xavier 'strepo and maybe he beats them out in

1448
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: year one and they take over later on as, THAT

1449
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,919
Speaker 1: slot guy i think there's. VALUE in that I Don't

1450
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: think christian kirk's gonna cost you a ton as a

1451
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: second option. IN the slot i think that that he'd

1452
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: be a pretty strong signing. In that role if you're

1453
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: signing him to throw him one hundred and twenty passes

1454
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: for the. Next three years you're. Probably, overvaluing him, YEAH.

1455
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 2: So no i, like the idea a Little Bit, of

1456
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: CHRISTIAN kirk, like i mentioned because he's. ONLY twenty eight

1457
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: i still think there's some good football. Left IN there

1458
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: but i made A list.

1459
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: Because, i, like lists okay. AND rank it i know

1460
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: you like to. RANK your list, i, tiered, it okay

1461
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: okay just like you do with your. Shopping list exactly

1462
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: so this is, eight, free AGENTS okay that i WOULD

1463
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: sign if i was the general Manager Of The, new

1464
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: ENGLAND patriots which, i am NOT but, if i was

1465
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: THIS is what i would do. In FREE agency and

1466
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: i think it's, a little different at least somewhat than what,

1467
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: we're you know some people have thrown out there or.

1468
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: What we're hearing these are the EIGHT guys that i.

1469
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: Would go after three Of.

1470
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: Them are tier one Day one signing monday at, twelve oh, one,

1471
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: big money right and then five of Them are, the

1472
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: commander's model right like some of these low nuts and

1473
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 2: bolts free agent nuts and. Bolts, free agents sure great way.

1474
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: To put it here. Are my three i'm gonna say,

1475
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: the last one this one FOR last because i think

1476
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: It's this guy we've talked about it, off the air

1477
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: is being very underrated in this. Free AGENCY class but

1478
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 2: i want to name he's first two. Because They're Obvious

1479
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 2: right ronnie Stanley Yep Or Cam Robinson right RONNIE. Stanley's

1480
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 2: plan a but if he doesn't hit free agency, For

1481
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 2: you know baltimore gets a deal done down, to the

1482
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: wire they, get It done then i'm still.

1483
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: Okay With signing by monday. At six pm they should

1484
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: have a left tackle If They.

1485
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 2: Signed cam robinson. IT'S not perfect i know the Game

1486
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 2: against the rams in the playoffs last.

1487
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: Year was horrible he's a, solid bridge now like we'll

1488
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: still probably be doing tackle in the, draft next year

1489
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 1: but you Feel Good about drake may's blind side in.

1490
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five THE one thing i want out of

1491
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 2: this free agency class Is that come, July twenty fifth

1492
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 2: i'm throwing that date out. Of my butt when, TRAINING

1493
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 2: camp opens i do not want to Ask who the

1494
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 2: patriots starting.

1495
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: LEFT tackle is i don't want it to. BE a

1496
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: question i don't want To. ASK it april i want

1497
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: TO get to i want to. GET to camp i

1498
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: want to get.

1499
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 2: TO mini camp i want To get TO OTA's and i, want,

1500
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 2: to say hey this is the left tackle right.

1501
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: With a sharpie So Where to Ronnie Stanley? Or cam,

1502
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: ROBINSON i'm good i don't So and and i'll just follow.

1503
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: UP on that i don't know that there's another player

1504
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 1: available in free agency, that Does That like dan, moore

1505
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: To me dan moore is coming in to compete. FOR

1506
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: the job i don't, know with who but probably a

1507
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: high Draft Pick like dan moore is coming in to compete.

1508
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: FOR the job i don't even know who else, available

1509
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: after that, like you Know Like, the Tyron Smith, the

1510
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: morgan mosses like You know That's, Trent browbit no Like. There's,

1511
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: ONLY trent's yeah i think he's a free he's not a.

1512
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: One year DEAL didn't he. I don't know he was. Hurt,

1513
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: last year yeah there's only two guys that definitively answered,

1514
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: Left Tackle questions Ronnie Stanley. And cam. Robinson that's it, so,

1515
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: that's one yep the Other big money day one.

1516
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 2: Twelve, OH one yeah i would throw an Absolute Bag.

1517
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: AT chris godwin i would throw all of the money

1518
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 2: in The World. AT chris godwin i know he's coming

1519
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 2: off the injury.

1520
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like. That's going well, THAT being.

1521
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 2: Said i JUST look At I, love chris GODWIN h

1522
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: and i also look at the role. That, he plays

1523
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah and then josh McDaniel's offense, the big slot like

1524
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 2: you can run Entire Offense, Through chris godwin like he

1525
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 2: is going to be the engine. Of the offense is

1526
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 2: he gonna be the big play guy. Down, the field

1527
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 2: no he's gonna be your third.

1528
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 1: Down. Chain mover yeah you know a straw that stirs.

1529
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: The DRINK player and i put a. Caveat. On that

1530
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah So remember elliot wolf talked about wanting to make

1531
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: sure they have the right. Intel, on players yep hopefully

1532
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: they have some sort of idea of where he's at

1533
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: because if that if he's behind schedule, On, his rehab

1534
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: like they can't throw a bag. At a guy it's not.

1535
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: A perfect comparison like take this with a. Grain of salt,

1536
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: two years Ago They Signed juju smith schuster thinking he'd

1537
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: fill a role and because, of his knee he wasn't

1538
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: able to. Fill. A, role yeah right If They're, SIGNING

1539
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: chris godwin i want it to be we're gonna throw

1540
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: A Bag. At chris godwin because he's healthy and we

1541
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: think he can be. An impact player not we're gonna

1542
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: sign him because he's a distressed asset because he's banged

1543
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: up and hopefully he heals to the point where he

1544
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 1: can make an impact. At, that point no like you

1545
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: need to know that he's healthy. Ready to go this.

1546
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: Is another word, if it's well you know he'll be

1547
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 1: ready to go, for week one but we'll he's. Him,

1548
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: in camp no he needs To Work with drake may.

1549
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: Throughout the summer they need to get on the same.

1550
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: PAGE in theory i love The Idea, of chris godwin

1551
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: but he has to be healthy for that. To make

1552
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,560
Speaker 1: sense bringing him in not knowing where his ankle was

1553
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: at because it was a dislocated ankle that would worry.

1554
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: Me a ton so it doesn't worry Me Because. He's

1555
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: chris godwin but But He's. Not chris godwin if, he's, not,

1556
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: Healthy well no i'm just saying it.

1557
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: Doesn't, WORRY me Like I know chris godwin, Can play

1558
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: football so when he gets healthy and he gets, On

1559
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 2: the field i'm.

1560
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: Not gonna go what if he's not fully healthy Until.

1561
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: LIKE late september i don't understand what, the problem is

1562
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: like he's a. TOP ten receiver i don't want ONE

1563
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: of the i don't want it to do this thing

1564
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: again where one of their biggest free agent, signings is,

1565
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: rehabbing you know right up, UNTIL week one i think

1566
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: ready to get the risk you. HAVE to take i

1567
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: think It Is what like.

1568
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 2: I'm, just gon like what what is the is? It

1569
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 2: YOUR money like i, just don't understand like if he's

1570
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 2: not the guy that they think that, He's, gonna be

1571
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 2: like you're not gonna give him a five. Of your

1572
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 2: contract it's gonna be, like three. Years sixty million and then.

1573
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 1: You, said bag yes. It's a. BAG that's YEAH i

1574
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: don't i just can't watch the miss. AT receiver again. I,

1575
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: can't watch well you're gonna have to take, some risks.

1576
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: THERE my, friend i like all these guys are gonna.

1577
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 2: Come, with some risk like if he're gonna be age

1578
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 2: or they're, coming off injuries like that's.

1579
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: WHY they're Available i guess i'd rather have one Hundred

1580
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: Percent healthy dvante adams than like A Seventy. Percent chris

1581
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: godwin i'd rather take the risk on the age for

1582
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: a guy that had work thousand Yards, LAST year Okay,

1583
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: I love. Chriscott i do, If he's, Healthy, i'm in

1584
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: like don't. Get that. Misconstrued i'm paying if, He's fully healthy.

1585
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm all in but he has to, be fully. Healthy

1586
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:39,799
Speaker 1: all right.

1587
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 2: So to round out, my tier, one you know, big,

1588
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: Big splashes right So We, have chris Godwin We have

1589
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 2: Ronnie Stanley, slash cam robinson, whichever it is the.

1590
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: TOP tackle available i don't understand why no One's Talking.

1591
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: About javon holland couldn't agree. WITH you more i don't

1592
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: understand why no One's Talking. ABOUT javon holland i just.

1593
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: Don't get it he's the best free, at this point

1594
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 1: he was probably the Best Fear and trey. Smith, getting franchised.

1595
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 2: Yeah he's an, elite free safety elite elite center. FIELDER

1596
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 2: they need i have no clue what the Future Holds

1597
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 2: for jabriel peppers with. THIS football team i also have

1598
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 2: no clue what was Going On with kyle. Duggar last

1599
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 2: YEAR but what i do know is that bringing in

1600
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 2: A Guy, like javon holland who is a dude like,

1601
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 2: as a beast he's also Going To put kyle duggart.

1602
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: In his natural. Position, and peers yeah they're back. In

1603
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: the box they're both going to be able to.

1604
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 2: Play, the box, uh you know, guard tight ends, play

1605
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 2: the box play the slot if you want to play

1606
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 2: Them as Big Nichols and javon holland is Going To,

1607
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: be kevin, byard you know over the top. Of, the

1608
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 2: defense Yeah Just like kevin Byard was In tennessee for. Vrabel,

1609
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 2: For years right so it's the same exact type Of

1610
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 2: role as Bayard Was A Pro bowl all pro caliber

1611
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: safety for Multiple Years. Under Mike rabel javon holland's twenty.

1612
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: Six years old oh we might need rewind the white.

1613
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 2: See, what conversations okay he's he's twenty, six years old

1614
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 2: and all of those things to me add up to

1615
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: this guy should Be somebody the patriots are very. VERY

1616
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 2: interested in i Don't Understand why javon holland is not

1617
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: at the top. Of the list so those would be. My,

1618
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 2: Big three no i'll give your your. Your breaking News it.

1619
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: Means, i'll, just say, first real quick If You, get

1620
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 1: javon holland this IS the, thought i had because, then

1621
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: it's Well let's Say pepper And peppers and dugger do make.

1622
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 1: Their way back how do you get all three of them.

1623
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: On the field there was a report from the combat

1624
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: that They're interested In jamie and Sherwood. From The jets

1625
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: jamie sherwood warts two hundred the linebacker weis two hundred.

1626
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,600
Speaker 1: And sixteen pounds could You Just turn kyle duggar essentially in,

1627
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: your second Linebacker and now pepper's is. Your box safety,

1628
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: you're in nickel but one of The linebackers is dougger

1629
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 1: And then It's, holland.

1630
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 2: Over, yeah, three safety, nickel, three safety dime like all

1631
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 2: those things are. AVAILABLE TO you i i Just Think,

1632
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: that javon, HOLLAND you know i remember talking The year after.

1633
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 2: DEVIN mccordy retired i talked to him for about the

1634
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 2: kind of the next wave, Of you, Know patriot safeties

1635
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 2: and the one thing that he pointed out to be

1636
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 2: is that when it was, him back there everybody, Had

1637
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 2: a home like everybody knew where they were. Supposed to,

1638
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 2: Go you know devin was going to, Play free safety

1639
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 2: duggar was going to play down in the box when

1640
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 2: it was third down with the game.

1641
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: On the, line you.

1642
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: Know they, knew their spots they knew where they were

1643
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 2: going to have to go with. These two guys it

1644
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 2: felt like they had two strong safeties both trying, to

1645
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 2: you know cause play. As free safeties you sign A

1646
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 2: Guy like javon holland you, have roles again you have

1647
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 2: distinct roles and distinct positions in. The back, end all right,

1648
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 2: give the, news all right. Here, we Go Yeah a,

1649
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 2: COORDNEY ian rapport Nfl Network. And tom pellisero wait?

1650
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: Where to go. Here we go seahawks STAR Wide receiver

1651
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: dk metcalf has requested A trade from seattle and the

1652
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: team has decided. To explore it there is likely to

1653
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: be significant Interest In the seattle star and bullsidesel to get.

1654
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: IN to it a big time wide receiver who may be.

1655
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,560
Speaker 1: On the MOVE forget everything i just said about the

1656
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 1: wide receiver position. Five minutes ago this. This is it this.

1657
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 1: Is the move this is the. Splash for me so

1658
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 1: there was a report out Of the combined. He's so

1659
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 1: excited look at him with. News breaks break he's SO

1660
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: excited because i called this shot like.

1661
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,480
Speaker 2: Over the summer YOUR guy is i DON'T believe these

1662
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 2: i can't believe they're Going To release tyler.

1663
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: LOCKETT and trade i told you all they're. GOING to

1664
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: reset i, told you all they're going he's not going.

1665
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: To be available they are. Going to reset this was always.

1666
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: GOING to happen I will be i. Will stand corrected you.

1667
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 1: Were right on so there was a report Out of

1668
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 1: the Combine where the. Packers Twenty third the packers are

1669
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: willing to offer twenty third and A Player.

1670
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 3: For.

1671
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: Dk Metcalf yeah If, I'M the patriots i take thirty,

1672
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: eight sixty, nine bundle, them move up get. Above twenty

1673
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: three you trade that pick and then Either a future,

1674
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: day two pick or if there's a Player that, the

1675
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: seahawks want maybe A Guy, like pop douglas MAYBE a guy,

1676
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: i Don't Know. Pick, KENDRICK bourne well i think they probably,

1677
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: want somebody Younger because the seahawks receivers in that they're

1678
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: gonna be. Their Number one the Seahawks or. The packers

1679
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 1: receivers in that reported Trade it WAS wix and i

1680
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: forget who the. Other one was, they, Were YOUNG yes

1681
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: so i Don't know. If bourne, were you know If, they, want,

1682
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: bourne fine fine.

1683
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 2: Just always seems like We'll Give you kendrick bourne as

1684
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: like the YOU know that i, was, THE ie right

1685
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 2: i was just.

1686
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: Thinking young receiver so, that's WHERE possible and i don't

1687
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: Want To trade pop doug this like if you can

1688
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: get if YOU Can. Get dk, metcalf so AGAIN that's what,

1689
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: i would do and that the there is some. Precedent

1690
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: To this the vikings member tried to do this last

1691
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: year where they traded up into the first round about

1692
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 1: a month, before the draft and then they had two,

1693
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: first round picks and the reporting was they were trying

1694
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 1: to package those two to move up To Get either

1695
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: drake may, or you know just move up to get.

1696
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: A better quarterback they ended up moving, up one spot

1697
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: but they. Made Both picks If, I'm the patriots i'm

1698
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: getting on the. Phone Right now the steelers are, at

1699
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: Twenty one the broncs. ARE at twenty i don't know that.

1700
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 1: THEY'D move back i don't remember who's. At twenty Two

1701
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: maybe the vikings, at twenty four and it's a pick

1702
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: below that twenty third Pick, from the packers but you

1703
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: find a way. To sweeten it i'd be on the

1704
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: phones right now trying to MOVE up because i don't

1705
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: think you're Trading. FOUR for metcalf i don't. Think you, are,

1706
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: but no no if you can get into the late

1707
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 1: first where you can compete with that packers offer at

1708
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: twenty three like they should be trying.

1709
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 2: TO do that i, would just offer and not to,

1710
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 2: cut YOU off but i would just offer thirty eight

1711
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: and a twenty.

1712
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: Twenty six pick is that going to be more than

1713
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: the packers offering twenty four or twenty three if twenty

1714
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 1: three's on the table. Like you could so essentially you're

1715
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: going to the, packers and saying or you're Going to,

1716
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: the seahawks saying here's what we would have traded for

1717
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: a first round pick, to give you but we'll just

1718
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: give it to you and you can do, the trade yourself. Right.

1719
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 1: Assembly required yep maybe they say we don't want to, do, the,

1720
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: trade like no go, Get the first like if you

1721
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: were gonna trade, it for first go. GET the first

1722
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: i just think, that IT MAYBE but I i always

1723
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: i kind of think about it like it gives you

1724
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 1: flexibility if you take the picks to just then make

1725
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: the picks into what you want to, make, him into

1726
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,560
Speaker 1: right like you know when. You, give him well but

1727
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,839
Speaker 1: if they say we want a, first, ROUND pick.

1728
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 2: YEAH i look i don't think. THAT'S the problem i

1729
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 2: don't think the trade compensation.

1730
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 1: Is the problem it's. Selling, him out yeah you gotta

1731
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 1: sell him. On coming here but he already said publicly

1732
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 1: he doesn't want. To come here give him the lily

1733
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: as million reasons did. Literally asked, him he, said he

1734
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: said didn't want To. Live In massachusetts rhode island is not,

1735
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: a long commute.

1736
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 2: He literally asked got asked about this on a podcast

1737
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 2: and looked into the camera And He said new england he.

1738
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: Was asked about literally. Made that face give him thirty,

1739
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: five million dollars give him, thirty. Five million Reasons And

1740
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: The green bay packers aren't gonna give him thirty. Five

1741
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: million dollars they the count flexibility papers have hi give,

1742
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: him thirty six give. Him thirty seven this. Is the

1743
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: guy this is the guy every single. Box for them

1744
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: you can't just force him. To come here he has

1745
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 1: control over. Where he goes we all would love to

1746
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: drive To The freaking logan airport right NOW And pick

1747
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: dk metcalf up and. Bring him here we'd. All love

1748
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: that it's. Not like that if you put thirty eight

1749
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 1: million on the table, and, he says no it is,

1750
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: what it is that's. What's, Gonna happen okay but put

1751
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 1: the money on the table and. See What happens don't no.

1752
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: One's saying differently i'm just telling you to be. Real

1753
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 1: money talks, don't under it don't just be, a dollar

1754
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 1: over don't like make it. Worth his while he doesn't want.

1755
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 1: To be here he's made.

1756
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 2: That abundantly clear so unless you're, gonna come in everybody's

1757
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 2: gonna offer him the going.

1758
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: Rate for a player of. His, COUNT overpay okay i

1759
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: would PAY for dec.

1760
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 2: I think that's so, easy, to say like, just all

1761
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 2: right just go out do what you did.

1762
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: To me earlier it's.

1763
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 2: NOT your money i don't care. ABOUT the money i

1764
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 2: care the. PLAYER himself is i think it's so much

1765
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 2: easier said than done to just keep throwing money at

1766
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 2: the guy and being like more and more and more here,

1767
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 2: to take, it take it to.

1768
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 1: Make him really, think about it not make it hard.

1769
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: To say no THAT'S all.

1770
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 2: ABOUT i would i would love To have dk metcalf on.

1771
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 2: This football team this is not a question of do you.

1772
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 2: Or don't you this, is an obvious absolutely one hundred percent.

1773
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 2: Slam dunk yes like this is a. Yes yes yes

1774
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 2: he is not gonna want, To COME here and i hate,

1775
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 2: to say that but it's just the, god dang truth

1776
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 2: like you are going to have to offer him so

1777
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 2: much money that it is inconceivable.

1778
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: For to say there's been plenty of, guys who, say

1779
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 1: you know it's kind of, the, inverse like, WELL YOU

1780
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: Know i i. I'D never leave i, LOVE this team i,

1781
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: love this city, blah blah blah and then the money's

1782
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: on the table. And they leave you can, change people's,

1783
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: MINDS all right i.

1784
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 2: Hope you're Right i'm just i'm preparing myself to. Not get,

1785
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 2: Hurt THAT'S IT LIKE i i i am preparing myself

1786
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: for the fact that this is he's gonna. Want To

1787
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 2: Go The green bay packers. Make total sense that is

1788
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 2: a team that is a dk metcalf away from Being a.

1789
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 2: Super bowl team that makes a whole. Lot Of Sense

1790
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 2: the san Francisco forty nine ers make a whole. Lot

1791
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 2: of sense They Just. Traded deebo, samuel you know we

1792
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 2: don't know what's Gonna Happen. With brandon nyuk we Don't

1793
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 2: Know if brandon nyuk is gonna be one hundred percent.

1794
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 2: For next season that makes a whole. Lot of sense

1795
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 2: these are teams that he's gonna be able to go

1796
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 2: to at the going rate for the type of player.

1797
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 2: That he is that are gonna Be In the super

1798
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,600
Speaker 2: bowl next year with him. On their roster That's. Not

1799
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 2: THE patriots and I just if i'm DK METCALF like i,

1800
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 2: i don't, know everybody says just offer him. The most

1801
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 2: Money They offered calvin ridley the most money And he.

1802
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 2: Took tennessee's, offer.

1803
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: It was but the whole thing was like the, gap,

1804
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 1: wasn't significant right the gap between what They offered when tennessee.

1805
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: Offered wasn't significant. Make it significant i'll. Say this too

1806
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: he's not. A free agent he, requested a trade yet

1807
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 1: we don't like How flexible is seattle gonna be with?

1808
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,480
Speaker 1: What he wants What if the patriots trade, offers significantly

1809
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 1: better that's. A good point so that is a good

1810
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 1: point in. Terms of.

1811
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 2: That but at, the Same, time like brandon we Did

1812
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 2: This with brandon nyuk Last Year and, brandon nyuk said you.

1813
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: Can, make The trade but i'm not signing An extension

1814
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 1: doing why didn't brandonyk WANT to sign. I, don't know

1815
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 1: no hen want to be here because he. Didn't, trust

1816
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: quarterback okay because he was unsure about the quarterback position

1817
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: that should no longer. Be an issue.

1818
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 2: It's so different it's so different than saying it should

1819
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 2: no longer be an ISSUE When like dk metcalf could

1820
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 2: Go Play with jordan love or he could Go.

1821
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: PLAY with Drake I. Love drake May it's just i'm

1822
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: looking at it from, the, PLAYER perspective right. I get that.

1823
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: I get that i'm not sitting here telling you that

1824
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: because he, requested this trade, snap your fingers he's going To.

1825
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: Be A patriot what i am, TELLING you is i

1826
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: don't care what he said. In The past the patriots

1827
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: should do everything in their POWER To get Dk Metcalf.

1828
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: To new england they should not follow the playbook they

1829
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: followed the. Last few years they Should extend for metcalf

1830
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 1: beyond what They, extended for ridley beyond what They, extended

1831
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: for ayuk beyond what They Extended for DeAndre hopkins a,

1832
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: Few years ago beyond any of these guys better player than.

1833
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 2: Any OF that but i, think They would like my

1834
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 2: POINT is is i think they would have done That

1835
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 2: With the Calvin Ridley if calvin, ridley, Was better Right

1836
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 2: Like if CALVIN Ridley.

1837
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 1: Was T higgins so. Metcalf, is BETTER yeah and i think.

1838
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 1: THEY'LL do it i just don't think. He'll take it

1839
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: we'll see if it'll. Work or not he's gonna have

1840
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 1: like half a dozen teams that are gonna be giving

1841
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: him the. Same exact thing we'll give him something a

1842
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: little more than the. SAME exact point i wish it.

1843
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: WAS that easy i wish it, was THAT easy. LIKE

1844
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: i do i wish it was that you were the

1845
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: best financial offer on the table and he, turns it

1846
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 1: down and like buy a significant amount and he. Turns,

1847
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 1: it down yeah what can you do if you're if,

1848
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: you're trying, to you know go on the margins to

1849
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 1: get by the. Next closest team, they need him they

1850
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 1: should be more aggressive for him than. The packers should

1851
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: let me put, It that way who?

1852
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: NEEDS they SHOULD i just i am PROTECTING myself because

1853
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 2: i just know that he's going to.

1854
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 1: Pick an up i've been talking about this, for MONTHS

1855
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: now so i have no choice but to continue. To,

1856
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: hammer it okay You think now i'm going to. Shut

1857
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: it down i've been saying for. Months, And, Months. Metcalf

1858
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: metcalf metcalf now he actually requested to be The day

1859
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: that i'm not.

1860
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,560
Speaker 2: Going to, happen all right let's let's get back, to

1861
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 2: this list because we have seventeen emails TELLING Us that

1862
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 2: dk metcalf.

1863
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: Requested to, trade we. KNOW we know i appreciate. Everybody tagging,

1864
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: me we know, UH and uh i see you there.

1865
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 2: On the phone so let me just go through this

1866
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 2: REALLY quickly because, i did this all this homework and

1867
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 2: now this, all you know gets blown up in the middle,

1868
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: of the show and we'll get, to your emails in

1869
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 2: your and your calls here to, wrap things up here

1870
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 2: are the, FIVE you know i don't know what you want?

1871
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: To call them what did?

1872
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 2: You call them nuts and? Bolts free agents these are

1873
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 2: the five nuts and. BOLTS free agents i Would go after.

1874
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: Levi?

1875
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 3: On was?

1876
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: On was on can? You?

1877
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 2: Say?

1878
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: IT on what i have to see it? To? Say

1879
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: It on who? Zuo Rookie is how I'm gonna say

1880
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: it's one of THOSE ones that i have to read

1881
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 1: it to be able to Was with the lions Last.

1882
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 2: Year with terrell williams. In that room defensive line, Room,

1883
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 2: really solid uh, just you, know all around kind of

1884
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 2: three four and, four to three maybe plays, the three

1885
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 2: tech maybe plays the backside end like he's just one

1886
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:19,560
Speaker 2: of those guys that's just gonna come in and.

1887
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 6: Do.

1888
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 2: The job right he's a lunch pale kind of guy,

1889
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 2: in my mind not exactly, the same PLAYER but like

1890
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 2: i think He Would. Replace dietrich wise he's kind of just,

1891
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 2: like a younger Better Version. Of, Dietrich Wise Right, So,

1892
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 2: levi onzrouski uh the NEXT player that i. HAVE on

1893
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 2: here i really like the idea of taking A Flyer,

1894
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: on azizo jalari former. High draft pick it, plays the

1895
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 2: edge can play that four three end, kind of role

1896
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 2: like Almost Like a harold landry. TYPE of player i

1897
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 2: really liked the idea of him coming here getting Schooled

1898
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 2: up By Rabel. And terrell williams maybe you get him

1899
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 2: to that ceiling that, they you know people saw, in the,

1900
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 2: draft you know, high draft pick that. Kind, of thing

1901
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: again not gonna bake the, brank for him but just

1902
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: another guy that you could say that you have a

1903
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 2: starting Edge player with, ojalari coming, here you know just

1904
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 2: a safe a. Safe bet there, THE next one i gotta,

1905
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 2: Have two here i'd go with either is, fine, with

1906
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 2: Me uh Dj Reed. Or, Risul douglas right just sign

1907
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 2: another starting caliber corner that can play.

1908
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 1: On the, outside but, yeah in Theory, either ONE ward

1909
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 1: So I have javarious ward IN a Different i think

1910
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: award's gonna make a little bit more money on. These.

1911
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,719
Speaker 2: TWO guys uh i actually really like the the floated

1912
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 2: idea that's already Out there Of. JAMIE and sherwood i

1913
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 2: think he's a, good football player, prototypical linebacker nowadays a,

1914
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 2: little bit undersize but can fly. Around make plays nice

1915
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 2: little Compliment There. To juwan bentley you can put him

1916
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 2: in a little bit more, high coverage stress high stress

1917
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 2: coverage situations than what you can do with the linebackers

1918
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 2: that are currently. ON the roster i really like The.

1919
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 2: Idea of sherwood he's gonna play, Weak side linebacker. He's

1920
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 2: gonna playage You're Gonna put juan bentley, next to him

1921
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 2: who's gonna. Be the thumper that could really work out

1922
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 2: with the two of those guys next. To each other the,

1923
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 2: last ONE here which i feel is another under LIKE discussed.

1924
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: Point i had.

1925
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 2: PATRICK McCarry down i would also be game for One

1926
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 2: Year of KEVIN zeitler because i just think he's a really.

1927
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 2: Good football player. But left guard left guard is A

1928
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 2: spot that i would try to fill in free agency

1929
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 2: on a on. A lower, Term You, Know Tevon, jacob tevin,

1930
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 2: jenkins excuse me as, a free agent, really good player

1931
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 2: but he's probably gonna be pushing fifteen million dollars a year.

1932
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 2: ON a contract i wouldn't necessarily invest that much In

1933
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 2: guard with on when. He already paid but a guy

1934
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 2: like McCary makes a lot of sense because he can,

1935
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 2: play multiple spots so he can basically just put out

1936
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,799
Speaker 2: fires for you on a. Week week basis you're signing

1937
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 2: him to, play left guard he's probably gonna, play left

1938
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 2: guard but let's say you get in a month into

1939
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 2: the season and your right tackle goes down with a.

1940
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 2: Short term injury McCary can kick out and play a

1941
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 2: little bit of tackle too for you for a game

1942
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 2: or two and just. Get By THERE uh so i

1943
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 2: like him as sort of a likely starting left guard if,

1944
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 2: If You know leyden robinson comes into camp and he's

1945
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 2: a stud and you don't need him to. Play left

1946
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 2: guard now now he's your sixth offensive lineman and he's

1947
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 2: kind of your top back up. At Multiple, SPOTS uh

1948
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 2: So i. Like patrick McCarry so my hall to sum

1949
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 2: this Up Would, Be Javon holland CHRIS Godwin or dk

1950
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 2: metcalf if that, Dream Comes true Ronnie Stanley slash cam

1951
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 2: robinson And, Then, on, Ziwuki Ojalari. McCary rasseull douglas let's

1952
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 2: Call it In. Jamie and sherwood i'd signed those eight

1953
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 2: guys not. On My, list milton williams who is gonna

1954
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 2: be the?

1955
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: Guy they signed they're, gonna sign you uh.

1956
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,799
Speaker 2: Does Really Quickly. ON milton williams I Worry about milton williams.

1957
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 2: A little bit i worry that he is a complimentary

1958
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 2: piece to a really, Good defenseensive line Like You have

1959
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 2: jalen carter, next to Him You have Nolan Smith and

1960
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 2: josh sweat coming. Off the edges he is the. Weak

1961
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 2: WEAK link and i say that meaning like that whole line,

1962
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 2: is stacked right but he is, the fourth, string you know,

1963
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 2: on that line.

1964
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 1: He's getting a lot of.

1965
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 2: One on ones he probably is rushing on your on

1966
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 2: a backup Guard In, the super bowl right Like when

1967
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 2: the chiefs have, offensive line issues like he's the guy

1968
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 2: that's not getting. The double teams he's the guy that's getting.

1969
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 2: On the backups He's Feasting because jalen carter's got six, guys, on,

1970
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 2: Him RIGHT right and i would just worry a little.

1971
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 2: Bit About That, with milton williams, he's also undersized so

1972
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 2: he only played forty eight percent of the snaps Last.

1973
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 2: Year in philadelphia is kind of a rotational player for them,

1974
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 2: In passing situations like is he a? Three down player

1975
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 2: is he A Product of jalen carter being? Next to

1976
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 2: him is that a guy that you're gonna pay twenty?

1977
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 2: MILLION dollars to i say all this knowing that that's

1978
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 2: the guy that everybody's telling. Me THEY'RE targeting and i

1979
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 2: wouldn't if they Sign. Him on, Monday i'm NOT just

1980
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 2: like i Said Earlier, about, DeVante adams like i'm not

1981
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 2: gonna be.

1982
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: Mad, About it right he's a.

1983
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,799
Speaker 2: GOOD football player i think he'll be. A good addition

1984
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 2: i just DON'T know if i would make him like the,

1985
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 2: prized you know signing of my.

1986
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: Free, agency class yeah he's. A good player. I'm with

1987
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 1: you if he's the best player they walk away FROM

1988
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 1: this from i think they probably left a little meat.

1989
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: On the bone But Especially with christian barmore's status up,

1990
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: In the air like you do need, an attacking defense

1991
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: you need another one for those. Defense to work so

1992
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 1: it kind Of LIKE with javon i almost feel kind

1993
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: of similar to him as They Do. WITH javon Holland

1994
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 1: i think holland is, a better player, but it's like

1995
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 1: does he play the biggest? Position? Of need no is

1996
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 1: he one of the? Best players available and just get? Good?

1997
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 1: Players in yes so the reason, why You Know, WITH

1998
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 1: milton williams i also hesitate. A little bit i think

1999
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 1: there's probably About A dozen milton williams is.

2000
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 2: In, This DRAFT yeah and i don't, Think THAT'S exaggerating

2001
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 2: like i think that You can find You Can.

2002
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 1: FIND milton williams i think he's, a good player but you.

2003
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 1: Can find that part of The Value with milton williams

2004
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 1: is this is a guy that Just Won, a super

2005
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 1: bowl was Part of an eagles team that a. Really good,

2006
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 1: culture you know he's a, guy you're building you're bringing

2007
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 1: in to be a buildings and he's a proven combined

2008
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: right and what he's what twenty, six years old so

2009
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: he's one of the Young. Guys in philadelphia you're bringing

2010
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 1: him in to be somebody the rest of your roster

2011
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 1: is looking to for, how it's done and you're not

2012
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 1: obviously like the. Rookies are talented you're not gonna get that,

2013
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: from a rookie not to the same extent you're gonna

2014
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 1: get it. From a guy how many guys they have

2015
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 1: left on this team that Have Won a, super bowl anywhere, not?

2016
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 1: Just here anywhere it's Not.

2017
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 2: Me dj wwise, A Free, Agent David, Andrews.

2018
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 1: David, Andrews Joe cardona jonathan, Jones free, agent so like it's,

2019
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 1: not that many and there is like this is not

2020
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 1: something we've ever really had to talk About Here, in.

2021
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 1: New england yep but we're kind of getting that point

2022
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 1: where you want a couple of guys on the team

2023
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 1: who have wanted a high level because there's just sort

2024
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 1: of a authenticity that comes with that if they're in.

2025
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 1: A LEADERSHIP role so i think that's part of The

2026
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 1: Draw with milton Williams or any eagles player, for that matter,

2027
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 1: or you know if you were to get a Guy,

2028
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 1: from THE chiefs like i think that's part. Of THE

2029
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 1: reason and, I you know i would have liked To

2030
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: see the patriots Maybe Go after joe toney when he,

2031
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 1: Was MADE available but i think that's part of the

2032
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 1: reason that may move makes so much Sense. For the

2033
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 1: bears that's a young football team and you're bringing The Guy.

2034
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 1: In joe toney has any active player One More. Than,

2035
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: joe toney yeah he's gonna be tremendous to set the

2036
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 1: culture there and help build a program. AROUND fair enough

2037
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 1: I Don't.

2038
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 2: HATE millon williams I just, LIKE i said i just

2039
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,719
Speaker 2: have some Reservations, mainly about okay now that he's gonna

2040
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 2: if he Comes Here in New England and barb moore is,

2041
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 2: not healthy right and now he's the guy, that everybody,

2042
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 2: is you know preparing their game plans and their past,

2043
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 2: protection you know off of is like we Got To.

2044
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 1: Block milton?

2045
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 2: Williams you know is he gonna be the type of

2046
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 2: guy that can still get pressure and still cause disruption

2047
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 2: When He's getting jalen carter type attention instead of. The

2048
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 2: SECOND fiddle AND i just i don't. Know about that

2049
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 2: i'm not confident. In that one confidence it's important to

2050
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,920
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2051
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:05,360
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2052
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,400
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2053
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2054
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2055
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2056
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2057
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2058
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:28,200
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2059
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2060
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:37,920
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2061
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 2: right let's get.

2062
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: TO the phones i will. Say Real, quick jacob morley,

2063
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 1: who's a. PACKER a writer i don't know if he's a. Report,

2064
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 1: or whatever yes this kind of reads. Like a report i'm,

2065
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 1: not that, sure but UH Just. Put dk metcalf My

2066
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 1: Guess is new england is willing. TO outbid, EVERYONE i.

2067
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: Mean i hope so, he ALSO added and i don't

2068
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 1: know if this is him thinking or if, it's a

2069
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 1: report but he did Note. THIS plus may i don't

2070
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: think it is that hard of A. Cell, FOR dk.

2071
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 2: Okay i hope, maybe the, coach you know MAYBE the

2072
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:10,600
Speaker 2: but i think that Podcast happened after rabel was.

2073
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 1: ALREADY the coach I mean the rabel was the, COACH

2074
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 1: so Quick i think rabel. WAS the COACH i think

2075
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 1: i don't think.

2076
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 3: It.

2077
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 1: Was McDaniels though let me, ask you this do you

2078
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 1: think part? Of the cell and this is kind of

2079
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 1: indirect the answer this, MIGHT be no i might be.

2080
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 1: Grasping and STRAWSIER you are dk metcalf a little bit

2081
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: SIMILAR Stylistically. To aj brown Do You think mike rabel

2082
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 1: can go to him, and be like LOOK at what

2083
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 1: I Did, For aj brown come? Do? THAT here yeah

2084
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:37,719
Speaker 1: i guess it would help more If He had, Matt lafleur,

2085
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: HERE but yeah.

2086
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't know i think TO Sell for dk metcalf

2087
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 2: Is All as mike rabel said.

2088
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 1: About his money it's all about it's money at the end.

2089
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 1: Of the day but and it's not the grass Out.

2090
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 1: Here at foxborough it's the other. Kind of, Green all

2091
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 1: right let's get to uh? The phones here Will? Is in?

2092
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 1: Kentucky what's Up.

2093
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 7: Will a bones?

2094
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 4: MAKEING weird, noises i think, first of ALL, WITH the dk.

2095
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,600
Speaker 3: Dk said that he didn't like The, state of massachusetts

2096
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 3: but He.

2097
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:10,440
Speaker 4: Liked the patriots.

2098
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 1: He did say that he did talk highly about the

2099
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 1: organization he because the question was would you want To, live,

2100
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 1: in MASSACHUSETTS which again i will, Say Half jokingly rhode

2101
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 1: island is not.

2102
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 3: A far commute, second of all on the Arms Measurements,

2103
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 3: with WILL campbell am i the only one That Noticed

2104
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,600
Speaker 3: that algie trapeo measured in at?

2105
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 5: Thirty?

2106
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:31,680
Speaker 4: Three, INCHES.

2107
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 2: Uh no a lot of these guys actually are. Shorter

2108
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 2: armed tackles uh you know Are around that isn't?

2109
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 3: That really weird guy has thirty Three inch on.

2110
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 1: What do you make of? THE report, that i mean it's.

2111
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: Not a report some of the guys that also measured

2112
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 1: In At the senior bowl measured in Shorter. At, the

2113
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 1: COMBINE yeah so i do wonder do You remember what

2114
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: Trapeo Measured.

2115
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 2: Into, senia BOWL no but i do wonder if some

2116
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 2: of these measurements the teams do their own measurements when

2117
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 2: they have these guys.

2118
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,639
Speaker 1: IN for visits i, think We Got, like will campbell

2119
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 1: that's absolutely gonna.

2120
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,640
Speaker 2: Be, a thing yeah because of how inconsistent the measurements

2121
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:12,600
Speaker 2: Were From The all star Games, TO the combine i

2122
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 2: think teams might Have, their own uh they.

2123
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: Might measure themselves he was thirty three and a half. By,

2124
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: the way yeah so maybe the.

2125
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 2: PATRIOTS measure, themselves, I mean look i as long as, It's,

2126
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 2: over threshold will and thanks.

2127
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 1: For, the, sorry no yeah as long as it's.

2128
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 2: OVER the THRESHOLD i honestly I, understand before kelly it's,

2129
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 2: a Little weird but i'm not too worried about it in.

2130
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 2: TERMS of, that, i MEAN really what i was more

2131
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 2: worried about at six foot eight is, is you know

2132
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 2: bending ability to get down and really sit in and

2133
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 2: be able to. Block those, Guys You know nate solder

2134
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:45,680
Speaker 2: had a lot of.

2135
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: Problems, with that.

2136
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah the couple guys in this draft that, are six

2137
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 3: eight the longest one had four thirty four and. A,

2138
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 3: half intons.

2139
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 2: Yeah they're Making, the thanks will thanks. For the call

2140
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 2: we just got a lot. Of people waiting we Haven't

2141
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 2: Talked at. Colin pierce yet we have a lot of

2142
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 2: we have a lot of short arm tackles, in this

2143
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 2: class a lot of thirty three thirty three. And A

2144
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 2: Half even JOSH simmons was i think thirty three, on

2145
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 2: the nose and You Know the calvin banks was thirty three.

2146
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 2: And a half, really long wingspan but like not not

2147
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 2: particularly long, group in general which is why there's a

2148
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 2: lot of talk about are, these guys, guards you know

2149
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:22,679
Speaker 2: like there's been a lot of that, even For banks

2150
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 2: like banks has gotten some of that, guard, you know

2151
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 2: yep flex type.

2152
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 1: Of stuff, Too all right Eric Is. In new? Jersey? What's?

2153
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 1: Up eric.

2154
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 4: Hey how?

2155
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 6: We?

2156
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 5: Doing?

2157
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 1: That hey?

2158
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 3: Good all right so a potential trade ALLFER here and

2159
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,680
Speaker 3: i know it May Be In la, la LAND here but,

2160
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 3: i was thinking Look At. The indianapolis colts they. Got

2161
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 3: four receivers You Just drafted donnie, mitchell last Year You,

2162
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 3: Got Josh, down Alex Peers. AND michael Pittman I think

2163
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 3: alex pierce could, be a low LOWER. Level one b

2164
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 3: he's coming up on the last year. Of his contract

2165
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 3: you can GET that outside xd guy still have a

2166
01:38:58,120 --> 01:38:59,839
Speaker 3: year of control to kind of work out a contract

2167
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 3: and kind of see how it works Out Here. IN new,

2168
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 3: england i mean you're obviously going to have to give up,

2169
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 3: something value obviously think that maybe Maybe Gave. Up joe,

2170
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 3: MILTON you know i don't know, how you know particularly,

2171
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 3: sold they, are you know The Future, of ANTHONY richards

2172
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 3: and i know the coach is going to be kind

2173
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 3: of on the hot seat here about kind of what

2174
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 3: are Your Thoughts on alex pearson kind of probably bring

2175
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 3: them in. To the folds i'll take it, off, the,

2176
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:18,759
Speaker 3: Line thick.

2177
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 1: Guys well just a grab a Receiver from the Colts

2178
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: Is out Alec Pierce. For, joe milton okay well that's

2179
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 1: not maybe there was. MORE in there i do wonder

2180
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,719
Speaker 1: if You Could throw JOE Milton a dk, metcalf trade

2181
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:31,600
Speaker 1: though because they don't have a long term option A,

2182
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 1: Quarterback beyond Yeah i'm with.

2183
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 2: FELGER on this i was listening to that, you guys,

2184
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 2: yesterday and uh he was like some Of The the

2185
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 2: joe milton does not have.

2186
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 1: The value that a lot. Of people think WELL there's

2187
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 1: reason i said throw, In a, trade like Okay Like

2188
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 1: maybe joe milton, is this, is you know the equivalent

2189
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 1: of like a fourth round pick. In the Trade well

2190
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,640
Speaker 1: what i'm saying so again that the Reported deal for

2191
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 1: Metcalf from the, packers was, like you know twenty three and.

2192
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:00,760
Speaker 1: A young receiver could you maybe swap out that young receiver?

2193
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 1: For young quarterback possibly that's what like you'd still have.

2194
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 1: To give up you still gonna have to probably move

2195
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,639
Speaker 1: up get a. First round pick trade that, trade another

2196
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 1: pick but instead of adding the young wide receiver. As

2197
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 1: a Sweetener You. Add joe milton i'm not somebody that

2198
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 1: really Wants Some trade joe milton unless they get blown

2199
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 1: away if it's to, Get, metcalf though yeah. You, DO it?

2200
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: Yeah i? Agree all right Mark. Is in Connecticut? What's,

2201
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:22,839
Speaker 1: that mark.

2202
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 4: Hey guys?

2203
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 6: Love the combine uh take thank you you guys.

2204
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 4: Thinking on that those are.

2205
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:33,679
Speaker 6: Really good, Stuff, AS always evan i am in line

2206
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 6: With You, on chris godwin, pay the man Great receiver for.

2207
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 6: JOSH McDaniel's offense i think he's, gonna be really really

2208
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:42,680
Speaker 6: a good player for us if they can get. The

2209
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 6: deal done the other Thing Was if tyler warren is

2210
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 6: not available. When we pick what is The Consensus? On

2211
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:53,759
Speaker 6: mason taylor watched this kid. At the combine. He looks

2212
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 6: good he almost Looks Like a hutter henry. Type of

2213
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,719
Speaker 6: replacement definitely for the future for the. Next eight years

2214
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 6: wanted to get you guys's. Take, on Him.

2215
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 2: YEAH thanks mark i Don't Think that hunter henry is

2216
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 2: a horrible comp. Honestly, makes sense, uh you know, natural

2217
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:11,560
Speaker 2: pass catcher maybe not, gonna you know jump off the

2218
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 2: tape at you with. Explosiveness and speed but just kind

2219
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 2: of gets the job, done fast, enough you, know quick

2220
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 2: enough those types of, Things with him he's a he's a,

2221
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 2: really good player probably. DAY two guy i still think

2222
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 2: third round is probably the Sweet Spot.

2223
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 1: FOR mason TAYLOR i think i think He's the third

2224
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 1: he's probably third tight, end, Class now Right so if

2225
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: loveland goes the, first Round List.

2226
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 2: It's elijah, royo you know just from the Receiving upside

2227
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 2: of royal is a, little bit, faster you know like

2228
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 2: he's a little bit more of a seam runner that

2229
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 2: can threaten the.

2230
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 1: Seam.

2231
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 2: Threatened CROSSERS uh but i look at, those, two guys,

2232
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 2: Uh you know as is probably, in in, line you

2233
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 2: know fighting for for that tight. END three Spot i

2234
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 2: Think warren and loveland are in categories, of their own

2235
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 2: and then those, those two, guys and, UH you know

2236
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 2: I still think fannin is gonna be. In that discussion

2237
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 2: Uh turns For auson from oregon is going to be.

2238
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 2: In That discussion gunner helm will be. In that discussion those,

2239
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 2: types of, PLAYERS all right i know what this call Is.

2240
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 2: ABOUT from aldred i know what this, Call. Is about

2241
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:10,600
Speaker 2: eldred what are you?

2242
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 1: Giving? Up for dk metcalf my? Friend how much hey

2243
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 1: tell us?

2244
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 5: That y'all, Doing hey, Good hey bar, i'm. WITH you

2245
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 5: man i was talking on twenty nineteen at THE draft

2246
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 5: get dk and They got A harry and i told

2247
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 5: her about The draft in hairy gonna be a bus?

2248
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 5: In TWO years and i was right. On BOTH ends

2249
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 5: but i traded NUMBER? Four for dk who you got?

2250
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 5: It for WITH? Better THAN dk but i would try

2251
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 5: to get they get they number one or? Day number

2252
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:39,560
Speaker 5: two who who you?

2253
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 1: Got it FOR?

2254
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 5: Better? Than dk metcalf.

2255
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 1: Nobody, on, the board nobody.

2256
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 2: BUT you're not i don't think you have to GIVE.

2257
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 2: A four dk i think the.

2258
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:52,640
Speaker 1: Real question is let's say it's it's four back To?

2259
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 1: Eighteen for metcalf would? YOU do that I think the

2260
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: seahawks for eighteen wherever they are eighteen nineteen. Somewhere, In

2261
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 1: THERE yeah i'll i. Would do that i'd. Probably do

2262
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 1: that that might. BE the trade i, would do, IT

2263
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 1: not bad i.

2264
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 5: Would do it. In a, Heartbeat, ALL right yeah i have. A, Good.

2265
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 2: ONE Thanks eldred i i'm glad. You called in eldred

2266
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 2: is the. Along with you alex IS The biggest dk

2267
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:17,240
Speaker 2: metcalf plan fan on the let let's unpack that. For

2268
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 2: a second So we're sure.

2269
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 1: Seahawks are at Eighteen, BEFORE we yeah i want to

2270
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 1: FIND the exact i literally was just looking for The

2271
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 1: number because i'm gonna HAVE to take i was. Probably

2272
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 1: the Number so the seahawks. Are, At eighteen Yes so the,

2273
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 1: patriots trade FOUR Yeah for dk metcalf in eighteen eighteen

2274
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 1: and they probably have to kick in more than just

2275
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 1: Four Called the matthew jude one. Pick, seventy seven.

2276
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 2: Sure and they moved. Back, to eighteen yeah in, a

2277
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 2: crappy draft the job in. A, crappy draft yeah they

2278
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 2: moved back to eighteen AND They. GET Dk metcalf i i'm.

2279
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:56,440
Speaker 1: In on that i'm so. Sign of, papers.

2280
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 2: Everybody, wins right yeah get a much better. First, round

2281
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 2: Pick yeah THE Patriots. Get dk metcalf they picked somebody

2282
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:04,560
Speaker 2: at eighteen who's, still gonna help but you don't have

2283
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 2: to overdraft.

2284
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 1: Somebody at four probably gonna get one of. THOSE pass

2285
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 1: rushers yea, a sweet, spot You, Know Samar, stewart james

2286
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 1: pierce those. Sorts, OF guys yeah i think we might

2287
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 1: have just come. Up with SOMETHING and if i gotta

2288
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 1: Throw In the Jude on pick i'll throw on sixty

2289
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 1: nine even doesn't need, be seventy seven one of those, third,

2290
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 1: ROUND picks right i just feel LIKE if you, I

2291
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 1: don't know i DON'T know for i don't know.

2292
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 2: If, That's, enough right like if YOU'RE now granted dk

2293
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 2: metcalf is seeking a trade he Wants, OUT of seattle

2294
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 2: i don't know how much Leverage, they NECESSARILY well.

2295
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 1: Let's i think they're. Gonna, have leverage yeah and lets.

2296
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 2: Look at the forty Nine ers with auke they ended up.

2297
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 2: Getting it done, and you know.

2298
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 1: Let's work in what the offer that is reported, on

2299
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 1: the table which is twenty three and. A young receiver

2300
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 1: would you rather add the? Twenty THIRD pick and i

2301
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 1: have two, first round picks would you rather add the

2302
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:57,800
Speaker 1: twenty third pick or move from? Eighteen to four, In

2303
01:44:57,880 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 1: this draft i'd rather move, up another year, It, might

2304
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:03,599
Speaker 1: be yeah, In this draft i'd, rather move up especially

2305
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 1: if they're getting intel That Like maybe. Travis, HUNTER'S available,

2306
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah i right, AND you know i just look, at, this,

2307
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 1: draft like, Yeah BY eighteen and i know this is

2308
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 1: kind of talking both sides of MY mouth because i

2309
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 1: Just said the patriots could still get. A, fine player

2310
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:23,680
Speaker 1: yeah you're probably not getting a true difference Maker at

2311
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 1: a you Know, what the, seahawks oddly enough really need this.

2312
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 1: Is a guard they really. Need a guard and they

2313
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:33,960
Speaker 1: are a team that can afford probably to take a

2314
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 1: guard that high because they have some other. Pieces in

2315
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 1: place they also.

2316
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 2: Are a team that has continuously kicked the quarterback can.

2317
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 1: Down the road. That is true do they like should say?

2318
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 1: They could do They Could probably the seahawks could probably

2319
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:47,799
Speaker 1: make better use of the fourth Pick than. The patriots

2320
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 1: could maybe we're being delusional.

2321
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 2: And talk talking, ourselves into this but like This is

2322
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 2: a this is the First time where i've said that

2323
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 2: actually COULD. Work for dk would You agree the Seahawks

2324
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 2: could make who's easier to project with?

2325
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 1: The Fourth pick The? SEAHAWK and patriots.

2326
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 2: I Would say PROBABLY seattle because I look at seattle as,

2327
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 2: A Quarterback Team like Gino Smith, is gino smith like he's.

2328
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:11,720
Speaker 2: A fine quarterback they're never gonna get over The Hump.

2329
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:13,679
Speaker 2: With gino, Smith he's. Not he's not they're not gonna

2330
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 2: do any Real Winning. With gino? Smith you know do

2331
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 2: they get up to four by making a trade like

2332
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 2: this and then even pull off another trade and they

2333
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 2: end Up with cam ward right, or you know or

2334
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 2: they end up.

2335
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 1: You know with or if they don't or if they

2336
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 1: don't love either, of these quarterbacks you get. The quarterback tacks,

2337
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 1: you move down you get a FUTURE first and i

2338
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 1: have two first round, picks next year you better position to. Get,

2339
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 1: that guy yeah as opposed to. From twenty three you're

2340
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,880
Speaker 1: just drafted and. It's not nothing but you're just drafting

2341
01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: a player. At, twenty three Yeah and the patriots can be.

2342
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 3: At.

2343
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 2: At eighteen, uh you know there's gonna be probably a

2344
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 2: couple of different options for them that they're.

2345
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 1: Gonna like it they're probably because you have the wide receiver,

2346
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:53,600
Speaker 1: box check, right you're not.

2347
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 2: But you could even Draft like a you can start

2348
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 2: talking about Drafting Like a josh connerly in.

2349
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 1: That, Spot, too RIGHT well, let's i mean do we

2350
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 1: want to really play. The fantasy out YOU Trade, for

2351
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 1: dk Metcalf You, Sign Cam, robinson ronnie stanley you can

2352
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. With.

2353
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,679
Speaker 2: That, PICK yeah YEAH i mean I think ed russher

2354
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:12,639
Speaker 2: or defensive line is going to be where the best

2355
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 2: player is, at that point probably just based off of

2356
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 2: the depth.

2357
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 1: Of THAT position but i or even maybe now A

2358
01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 1: Guy like jahad campbell's. In, the converse yeah you get that. Linebacker,

2359
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:24,840
Speaker 1: defensive playmaker, yeah all right we might. Have done it.

2360
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 2: We will, see all right there's a good over under

2361
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 2: IN here that i wanted to or not an not,

2362
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 2: an over under a you know what? Would you rather

2363
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 2: but we'll read This one From. Sean first john he

2364
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 2: just has a list of, a free agents none of

2365
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 2: them huge names like these are more a couple of

2366
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 2: big names but mostly.

2367
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 1: Lower. Level guys Uh why just i'll just do rapid

2368
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:49,599
Speaker 1: fire through these names and you tell me? Yes or no? How? About?

2369
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 1: That Okay NICK Nick, Westbrook, a kine YEAH you know

2370
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:57,599
Speaker 1: i like Him and. The raabel CONNECTION He. No dk

2371
01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: metcalf but if he's like kind of like We, talked

2372
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,240
Speaker 1: about christian if he's, a complimentary guy if he's like

2373
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 1: your third Guy like him douglass AND then an x to.

2374
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 2: Be, named, Later yeah okay i'm in sounds a Little

2375
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 2: Bit like kendrick born in. Twenty twenty one.

2376
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 1: Different, sort of, player but yeah i'd. Say Similar, role

2377
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 1: draymond jones. Big. Defensive, tackle yeah yeah, like you said

2378
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 1: like they can get a guy. In, THE draft yeah

2379
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 1: i wouldn't hate if, they SIGNED him but i don't

2380
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 1: think he's a guy they. Needs to sign speaking for

2381
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 1: a big, At His position carlton. DAVIS the cornerback I Do. Like, Carlton,

2382
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,680
Speaker 1: Davis yeah hell davis Is the corner i've won yet

2383
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of a rough, year, Last, YEAR right

2384
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:35,639
Speaker 1: yeah i he was kind. Of danged up he's getting.

2385
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:37,720
Speaker 1: A little older but as a Veteran, work with gonzalez

2386
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,760
Speaker 1: a guy to play, the, SECOND spot yeah i. Would

2387
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 1: be in i'd RATHER Him over dj REID honestly because

2388
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:45,880
Speaker 1: i think they Need The, size josh. Sweat. Bigger, Name,

2389
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 1: YEAH yeah yeah i don't think. They're going, to but

2390
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: yes doesn't sound like.

2391
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 2: They're, going to uh sounds like, they kind of at

2392
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 2: least based. Off the reports it sounds like they Kind

2393
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 2: Of think josh sweat was the guy that was benefit for,

2394
01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 2: me everybody else which could be the ONLY reason Why I.

2395
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 2: LIKE josh sweat i probably wouldn't pay twenty million. Dollars,

2396
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 2: for this yeah but it's a little bit like we

2397
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 2: were talking about with. The linebackers before somebody needs to

2398
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 2: get the quarterback, on, The ground right so like maybe

2399
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 2: the pressure is coming from, up the middle or maybe

2400
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:16,240
Speaker 2: the pressure Is Coming from Milton Williams or Mason Graham

2401
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 2: Or Christian. Barmore kean white but those guys are, not,

2402
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 2: sack guys right. They're Pressure Guys so josh sweat comes

2403
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 2: in and he just, cleans, it up right and if

2404
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 2: he has, twelve cleanup, sacks next year someone got, the,

2405
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 2: quarterback down right someone got us off the field? On,

2406
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:37,760
Speaker 2: Third down Right, Drake green, Law deuce Guy. Dray green

2407
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:42,160
Speaker 2: law he's coming, off, an, injury, Right, Yes Yeah no, zach,

2408
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 2: bond no see HE'S the guy i really think was

2409
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 2: benefiting from The.

2410
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:50,639
Speaker 1: System, FROM fanjio yeah i think he was a, really good.

2411
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 1: SITUATION good player i don't think he's gonna be Worth

2412
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 1: to the patriots what he's worth to.

2413
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,640
Speaker 2: Some other teams different player reminds me a Little Bit

2414
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:02,680
Speaker 2: of Van Noy, with, bill belichick right, like, we're like.

2415
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah like, just, perfect here yeah and that was. What it, was,

2416
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,639
Speaker 1: And yeah no i'm Good On, zachon, nick, BOLTON yes

2417
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 1: yes i pff has was like the thirtieth, best FREE

2418
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 1: agent which i. Think is nuts we Were Both big

2419
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 1: nick bolton guys, in that draft and every year we've

2420
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:18,840
Speaker 1: got to watch and make Plays In. The, super, bowl,

2421
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 1: yeah yeah Definitely You know, nick bolton, yep all right?

2422
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 1: Is that it those are the those are.

2423
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 7: The.

2424
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 2: Main ones yep, another question here. Draft Question, yep uh

2425
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 2: so earlier, in the year this IS this is i.

2426
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 2: Think pretty accurate earlier in the Year It was Will Campbell, versus, calvin,

2427
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 2: banks right yeah for the.

2428
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:38,480
Speaker 1: Top tackle spot.

2429
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,560
Speaker 2: Now it Feels like It's. Campbell VERSUS membo but i

2430
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 2: understand why post. Measurements and combine It's not Now. Banks

2431
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 2: versus membo so basically because. Of the, Combine you know

2432
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 2: banks and memboo both checked that. THIRTY three threshold i.

2433
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:54,680
Speaker 1: Guess it's not.

2434
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 2: IT could be I think The membo versus campbell debates

2435
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 2: are who's gonna be the first? Offensive lineman taken not

2436
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:05,959
Speaker 2: necessarily he's gonna be, the first tackle but overall. OFFENSIVE

2437
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 2: lineman taken I Don't think kelvin banks is in the

2438
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 2: conversation to be the. First, lineman taking no it's that's

2439
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 2: a good way. To Put, IT like membu i think

2440
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 2: through the pre draft Process. Is, past banks yeah and

2441
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 2: it's it's, tackle versus guard not one tackle versus.

2442
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 6: THE.

2443
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 1: OTHER tackle yep i, agree with that, and you know

2444
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 1: The Thing, with calvin banks he has fallen a, little

2445
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 1: too much like he's kind of gotten a. Little Too Player,

2446
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 1: BUT calvin banks i think the BIGGEST thing that i

2447
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:33,680
Speaker 1: see with him is like the more space he's in,

2448
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 1: in pass protection the less body, control he has so

2449
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,640
Speaker 1: like when he expands and he gets out into on

2450
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 1: an island, in pass protection it's very he doesn't redirect

2451
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 1: very well or changed. Directions very well so like when

2452
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:49,360
Speaker 1: you get, those like, twitchy you know explosive rushers that

2453
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 1: can go, inside or outside like he has a tough

2454
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 1: time staying in front of a lot. Of those guys

2455
01:51:54,680 --> 01:52:00,600
Speaker 1: he's a power run. Blocking, first guard? Right excuse ME

2456
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:02,599
Speaker 1: is how i. WOULD describe him i don't think it's

2457
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:05,479
Speaker 1: all That Different. From, will campbell honestly. It's different players.

2458
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 1: HE'S better reach i get, what you're saying but it's

2459
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:10,679
Speaker 1: it's a. Little, it's different.

2460
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah IT'S different but i would, say that, that's you

2461
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:16,759
Speaker 2: know the knock that you hear Most Consistently with calvin

2462
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 2: banks is how good is he going to be? In

2463
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 2: pass protection because of, his body controlling his change of direction,

2464
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 2: ability on tape it gets a little dicey.

2465
01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes for.

2466
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:29,599
Speaker 2: Him out, there all right this is A One, from

2467
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 2: David maine and i've tried to answer this question a.

2468
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:35,600
Speaker 2: Million different ways hopefully you can maybe help me out. Of,

2469
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,720
Speaker 2: your alps well you please explain how one inch of

2470
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:40,679
Speaker 2: arm length can be that big of. A deal breaker

2471
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 2: i can't wrap my. HEAD around it.

2472
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is the threshold used to be.

2473
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 2: Thirty Four Inches then rashaan slater comes in plays a

2474
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:55,559
Speaker 2: great left tackle at, thirty three inches so everybody opens

2475
01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 2: their mind up to. Thirty three inches so when we

2476
01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:00,880
Speaker 2: go from thirty four to thirty three to thirty, two and,

2477
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 2: five a's like think about how, far we've come especially.

2478
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,320
Speaker 1: When players are getting bigger and people say that's. Only,

2479
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:09,800
Speaker 1: two inches well, first of all it's an inch really.

2480
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 1: On each side. Because you're measuring the measurement is one arm.

2481
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:15,479
Speaker 1: The other thing and this is, a little abstract but

2482
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 1: maybe this is the best way. To Put It and

2483
01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 1: bob soci wrote a great piece on this on ninety

2484
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 1: Eight five the Sports on dot com. Earlier this week

2485
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 1: think back to the. Opener this season do you remember

2486
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:31,000
Speaker 1: how that? Game was decided Which game chiefs ravens first game. Of,

2487
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 1: the year no it was a, Long, time ago isaiah likely, by. A,

2488
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:37,800
Speaker 1: toe right yeah what we'll just say it was like

2489
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 1: two a three ace, of, An inch right that's just.

2490
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:45,440
Speaker 1: How football works sometimes it is really. On the margins

2491
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: there is no tangible way, to show it but you

2492
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 1: see it. In The Results it kenbrell tompkins. In the

2493
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 1: pasket who IS the corner i? Should know This Oh, Is,

2494
01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 1: marcus williams right and you see how close that Ball

2495
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 1: Gets to, marcus william's hand just Over him with brady.

2496
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:06,080
Speaker 1: Dropping it in if in corners a different one writes,

2497
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 1: a different threshold but if his arm is a quarter of, an,

2498
01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 1: inch longer. Yeah nobody Knows unicorn show ponies wears the

2499
01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 1: beef is, some, insane sentence yeah instead of an Iconic part.

2500
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 1: Of patriots, culture so like it's not it's hard to point,

2501
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:25,560
Speaker 1: to it tangibly but it's it's you're gonna hate me.

2502
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 1: For how cheesy this Is the al pacino speech From.

2503
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 1: Any given sunday the inches we need are. Everywhere around.

2504
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 1: Us you are that's kind of what it is you wanted.

2505
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 1: Me to explain it is that can you do? BETTER

2506
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 1: than that i mean that that's the easiest way.

2507
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 2: TO explain it i think the biggest thing, with it

2508
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 2: though is that When You watch will, campbell on film

2509
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 2: and we talked about this, before the combine there are

2510
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 2: concerns about him being a shorter arm tackle that show up.

2511
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 2: On the tape if it didn't show up, on THE

2512
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 2: tape then i wouldn't be as Much, Of a okay

2513
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:01,200
Speaker 2: i'm out.

2514
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 3: On this.

2515
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 2: Now you know the biggest thing is is that he

2516
01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 2: has to be very aggressive in pass protection because he

2517
01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 2: can't just sit back and use his length to extend and.

2518
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 2: Buy himself time so he comes out and he sets

2519
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:17,360
Speaker 2: aggressively out. In pass protection so a lot of those,

2520
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 2: twitched up, Rushers You, know kyle Kinnard You, know shamar

2521
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 2: stewart you, know those guys all they were doing was

2522
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 2: they were just swimming right over him and going to,

2523
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 2: the inside right so he, would come out there would

2524
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 2: be this big gap now off his inside hip and

2525
01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 2: these guys are just inside, countering. All, Day right yeah

2526
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 2: and a lot of that is because of, his arm

2527
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 2: length because he can't extend and he can't.

2528
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 1: Get out there so how is that going? To, be

2529
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 1: fixed like how are we going?

2530
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 2: To fix that is a question that teams need to

2531
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,839
Speaker 2: ask and if you then ask him to set, more, inside,

2532
01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 2: out now well now he's going to be playing with

2533
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 2: a short, corner right now he's not going to be

2534
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:57,840
Speaker 2: able to protect the. Edge as well so his skill

2535
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 2: set and his body. Type scream guard the question is

2536
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 2: for a Team like the patriots who are so desperate, for,

2537
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 2: tackle help like do you just see if he?

2538
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:08,120
Speaker 4: Can?

2539
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 1: Do it right because he's done. It in college it's

2540
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 1: it's if you believe he is, a, generational talent like

2541
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 1: because that's what he'd have to be, to play tackle

2542
01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 1: to be a. Truly weird talent. You do it, But,

2543
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:19,160
Speaker 1: just remember evan when you add up, all those inches

2544
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 1: that's the difference between.

2545
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 2: Winning and losing, oh my, goodness, All, right uh victor, Bring.

2546
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:25,440
Speaker 2: Us home victor Victor is.

2547
01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:28,560
Speaker 1: In florida, movie hey guys? How? You?

2548
01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 7: Doing, Hey Good okay so i've just been running the

2549
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 7: draft situation in my head and kind Of thinking If

2550
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 7: carter and hunter are gone at for If You, are

2551
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:40,800
Speaker 7: elliott wolf what?

2552
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:41,280
Speaker 4: Do you do.

2553
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:45,040
Speaker 1: This is the big question that that's the. Number one

2554
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:46,160
Speaker 1: question that's a good way to. End The.

2555
01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 2: Show thanks victor this is the number one question that

2556
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 2: we're gonna be answering for the next month.

2557
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 1: And a half go back to the beginning, of the

2558
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:54,800
Speaker 1: show because this was. My, opening take yeah if you

2559
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:57,400
Speaker 1: can get tackle address, and free agency who do you

2560
01:56:57,440 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 1: think is the best football player? On the board, Is

2561
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:02,320
Speaker 1: it McMillan Is It? Still will campbell Is It? Still

2562
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 1: mason Graham Is? It will Johnson Is? It ashton Genty Is?

2563
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 1: It tyler Warren Is? It? Calvin banks like and there

2564
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:11,600
Speaker 1: is gonna be arguments for all. Of those players you

2565
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 1: just do who helps your football team the most? From that?

2566
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 1: GROUP fair enough i think that the number one obvious

2567
01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 1: answer is, dump the pick like somebody. Come, trade up

2568
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 1: well but. Here's some problem if there's someone. Take the pick.

2569
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 1: Not that simple, take the pick, it'd be great. But

2570
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:28,800
Speaker 1: take it, THEY might.

2571
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 2: Not i understand but, that's number ONE Right and i

2572
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 2: we've both said this take in DIFFERENT ways because i

2573
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,600
Speaker 2: think it annoys both of us that everybody just assumes

2574
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 2: you can.

2575
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:38,920
Speaker 1: Just.

2576
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:41,160
Speaker 2: Trade down right you. Can't trade that it's. Not that

2577
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 2: automatic it takes. Two to tango number one option is,

2578
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 2: to trade down no. Doubt about it NUMBER two option

2579
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 2: i would probably go best player available at, a premium

2580
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 2: position whether, that's pass Rusher that's armand. Membu at Tackle

2581
01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 2: You think tyler warren can be a number one you

2582
01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 2: know option, in, An, offense right like those are, All

2583
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:04,920
Speaker 2: Pre positions ted, MACMILLAN to me i would probably steer.

2584
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:06,440
Speaker 2: IN that direction, i think, THAT you know i know

2585
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:07,680
Speaker 2: that's a little bit of a COP out because i,

2586
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:10,560
Speaker 2: didn't Pick anybody but i'm just saying that whoever they

2587
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 2: think is the best player at. An impact position.

2588
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 1: So your your answer is Basically anybody but Genty Correct

2589
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:19,520
Speaker 1: or will campbell if you think.

2590
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:23,000
Speaker 2: He's, A, Card Okay Right so mason graham is like

2591
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 2: a little bit like on the, Fringe, FOR me like i,

2592
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:28,360
Speaker 2: can you know pass rush interior pass rush is becoming

2593
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 2: more and more, And more important so it's hard.

2594
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 1: To say that it's a complete.

2595
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 2: Non impact position but it's tough last EMAIL here because

2596
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:38,080
Speaker 2: i just like that it's.

2597
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 1: Picking on. You Oh, boy barton poland who's.

2598
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 2: A fan, of the show has a list here because

2599
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:49,040
Speaker 2: he thinks THAT You're, Overrating dk metcalf so he has

2600
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 2: a risk a LIST sorry of i think almost Twenty

2601
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 2: Receivers that barton poland thinks IS Better.

2602
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 1: Than Dk metcalf so i'm gonna read him off and

2603
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 1: you Just tell me, Yester or No Let's say jamar

2604
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 1: chase is this like last year because he had a down,

2605
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 1: year last year but. He wasn't assistant Just, Answer The

2606
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 1: okay jamar, chase Is better. Justin Jefferson's, Better, tyreek kill

2607
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 1: no not, at this point not at thirty. Something years

2608
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 1: old you THINK you think dk Is Better. Than tyrey

2609
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 1: kill let's assume it's a. Three year extension who would

2610
01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:16,400
Speaker 1: you rather have for the. Next three Years that's how i'm.

2611
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 1: Gonna Do this TYREEK Kill or DK. Metcalf, probably dk

2612
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah ty tyreek kill at his peak, was much better

2613
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:24,320
Speaker 1: absolutely best. Step in league he's not getting better, At

2614
01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:28,640
Speaker 1: this point he's only. Gonna Get Worse, Ceedee lamb DRAW

2615
01:59:29,120 --> 01:59:33,880
Speaker 1: i'm taking i. LIKE Them, Both aj brown I'M. Taking. A,

2616
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 1: j brown no they're like the same. Player, To me no,

2617
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:40,040
Speaker 1: brown is, Better All RIGHT, Nico, COLLINS dk yeah i.

2618
01:59:40,120 --> 01:59:45,960
Speaker 1: Agree WITH that pooka DK A'man ra dk milik neighbors.

2619
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:47,600
Speaker 4: That.

2620
01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 1: MIGHT be neighbors i need to see what he builds on.

2621
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:52,000
Speaker 1: The rookie year he has a Chance To Be. BRIAN

2622
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:57,200
Speaker 1: THOMAS Jr DK. T higgins, Dk I AGREED, garrett wilson.

2623
01:59:57,440 --> 02:00:03,080
Speaker 1: Dk It's CLOSE drake, London Dk agreed frank lens just THE,

2624
02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:09,600
Speaker 1: Worse For Dk metcalf Jackson SMITH and. Jigba K, Agreed Mike, Evans, Mike.

2625
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:11,640
Speaker 1: EVAN oh mike I Was thinking mike williams. For a

2626
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:14,560
Speaker 1: second if we're doing the next, THREE, Years Thing dk mike.

2627
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:17,080
Speaker 1: Evans UNBELIEVABLE player, but i think YOU know what. I

2628
02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:18,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't say i think he's gonna Fall off because i've

2629
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:20,920
Speaker 1: said that. And He's not But I'll say, MIKE evans

2630
02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:22,560
Speaker 1: there i have too Much Respect. For mike Evans I'll,

2631
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 1: Say Mike, EVANS, Davante adams Dk tyler. Mcc terry, McLaurin.

2632
02:00:27,680 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 1: Excuse me dk there's a lot of old receivers, On

2633
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:34,040
Speaker 1: This LIST. DeVante SMITH dk so i WOULD say that

2634
02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:37,600
Speaker 1: dk to me is ten. TO fifteen ish i think

2635
02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:40,120
Speaker 1: he's in like the eight to ten ten. To fifteen

2636
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:42,839
Speaker 1: ish really, Good, player though yeah and he's?

2637
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 4: What?

2638
02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:46,880
Speaker 1: Twenty seven, Yeah, elite receiver. Yeah elite receive do you

2639
02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 1: want To talk? About tuesday morning what are we doing?

2640
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:50,280
Speaker 1: About this guy? Kind of player if you want to

2641
02:00:50,320 --> 02:00:51,920
Speaker 1: talk ABOUT and then i know we got. A wrap

2642
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:54,040
Speaker 1: yep if we want to we we threw out a.

2643
02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 1: Lot Of, names, Chris Godwin, yep, Deavante Adams, Yeah Tyler.

2644
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 1: Lockett christian kirk all these. Guys are available there is

2645
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:08,440
Speaker 1: NO Doubt that dk metcalf is now the best receiver.

2646
02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:11,600
Speaker 1: Of NOT close and i would even put t DID You?

2647
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:15,280
Speaker 1: SAY t? Higgins i? DID you did? I, DID not

2648
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:17,360
Speaker 1: oh i would still even if you Want to throw,

2649
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:20,720
Speaker 1: HIGGINS in There i. Think metcalf's better so he's the. Best.

2650
02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 2: Receiver Available yep the patriots are one of the teams that.

2651
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:25,760
Speaker 2: Desperately needs receivers they should.

2652
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:27,400
Speaker 1: Be Doing well so i'm glad you said that because

2653
02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:29,880
Speaker 1: let me be clear, about SOMETHING here because i got

2654
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:32,320
Speaker 1: asked in this this applies, to, two, Players okay right

2655
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:34,560
Speaker 1: and then we gotta Go On the will campbell's. Arm

2656
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 1: lane thing everybody's how you're So Obsessed with will campbell

2657
02:01:37,600 --> 02:01:39,360
Speaker 1: and now? Your, guy's gone like how ups are you the?

2658
02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:39,640
Speaker 1: Same with?

2659
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:39,760
Speaker 3: You?

2660
02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:43,240
Speaker 1: Oh BOY bart things. Dk So good but i'm Not Obsessed.

2661
02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:45,600
Speaker 1: With will campbell i'm obsessed with the idea Of Making

2662
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:48,360
Speaker 1: sure drake may's. Blindside is protected i'm not so MUCH

2663
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 1: Obsessed with DK metcalf as i Am with the patriots

2664
02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:54,360
Speaker 1: getting a true game. Changing wide receiver those just happened

2665
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:55,920
Speaker 1: to be the guys Or we thought campbell was. The

2666
02:01:56,000 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 1: guy available it the top guys available to. Do the

2667
02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:02,800
Speaker 1: job THAT is what i am. Hyper focused on it

2668
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:05,919
Speaker 1: is not necessarily No offense TO Will. Campbeller dk metcalf

2669
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:11,360
Speaker 1: but if name a receiver, right was available if we FOUND. OUT.

2670
02:02:11,480 --> 02:02:14,160
Speaker 1: If a j brown requested, a trade today IT'S not

2671
02:02:14,360 --> 02:02:16,560
Speaker 1: like i, would be NO. It's d k he's the

2672
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:18,080
Speaker 1: guy that would, Be all right we'll get one.

2673
02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:18,160
Speaker 3: Of.

2674
02:02:18,200 --> 02:02:20,600
Speaker 1: The two right if we found out some tackle, Was

2675
02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:23,080
Speaker 1: available today It's not that i'm pounding The Table. For

2676
02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:25,520
Speaker 1: ronnie stanley it's get somebody that you don't have To

2677
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:28,280
Speaker 1: Worry about. Drake may's blindside those are just the guys

2678
02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 1: casting those, roles this.

2679
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 2: Offseason all right so we'll be back on catch Twenty,

2680
02:02:32,120 --> 02:02:35,720
Speaker 2: two next, wednesday same. Time same place that is technically

2681
02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:37,520
Speaker 2: the first day of. The league year but the cool

2682
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:39,480
Speaker 2: thing for our show is that all a free agency

2683
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:41,960
Speaker 2: will basically be over because of, The tampering period so.

2684
02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:43,840
Speaker 1: It'd, Be cool yeah. I'm signing live that might.

2685
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:46,080
Speaker 2: Be next week we'll be able to break down all

2686
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:49,520
Speaker 2: of what hopefully will be a very active first couple

2687
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:53,040
Speaker 2: of days of free Agency for The patriots On. Monday

2688
02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:55,560
Speaker 2: and tuesday, so until then Signing Off For Alex. Barth

2689
02:02:55,600 --> 02:02:57,800
Speaker 2: evan lazarre see you. Guys next week but.

2690
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:03,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, Downloading this Podcast, Subscribe On, apple google play

2691
02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:06,520
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2692
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:09,720
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2693
02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:12,640
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2694
02:03:12,720 --> 02:03:15,560
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2695
02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:17,520
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