WEBVTT - 1997 with Smoke DZA

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we didn't get Doritos last time.

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<v Speaker 2>Since when the fuck do we bring in snacks?

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<v Speaker 3>Just wondering what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sis, I requested some snacks. Oh, you did? Oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I requested some snacks. Oh, see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen this.

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<v Speaker 1>Smoke said this is what happens when you know your value.

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<v Speaker 1>I want chips and shit.

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<v Speaker 4>These other guests don't know their worth.

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<v Speaker 3>Smoke Dizzy, the first guest on, look back at it

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<v Speaker 3>to know his worth.

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<v Speaker 1>Come in here with demands.

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<v Speaker 2>Just hungry bumps.

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<v Speaker 1>Stomach growling.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, well this is now as good a time as

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<v Speaker 3>any to welcome, welcome back you guys, welcome back to

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<v Speaker 3>Look Back At It.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back to another lovely episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Look Back Ever At It. We're so excited.

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<v Speaker 5>To be back.

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<v Speaker 2>I am your host Sam J.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry, I'm Alex.

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<v Speaker 2>We had to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We lit, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't even do it, let's do it again. We haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think we do it. Just keep it natural.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll just leave it there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. I'm fine with that. The episode don't got

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<v Speaker 1>to get its body done. It doesn't. We don't got

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<v Speaker 1>to do too much editing. It doesn't. We don't got

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<v Speaker 1>to do too much chopping and screwing.

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<v Speaker 2>We accept the episode as it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Because by the time they get.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, they know what we on.

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<v Speaker 1>They know what we on.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is their first rodeo?

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<v Speaker 1>This is not their first rodeo.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they need to look back at it.

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<v Speaker 3>By this episode, you guys, it's been about a good

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<v Speaker 3>month and some change that Sam and I have not

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<v Speaker 3>seen each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And I miss my friend dearly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a little minute.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't say that I've missed you, but I've been curious.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been curious.

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<v Speaker 1>I got receipts. I got receipts. You specifically texted me

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<v Speaker 1>this yesterday. You said I missed you.

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at her.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been interested in what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be trying to front for these microphones. You did

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<v Speaker 1>miss me. I can see it in your eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I missed you. I can see it in your eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I missed you. How have you been? I've been good.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been keeping myself busy. I'm back in the gym.

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<v Speaker 3>I took some time off at the gym. I reunited

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<v Speaker 3>with some gym crushes.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that why you went back?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. And you know what? They missed me too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nice that you went to the gym.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I haven't been going.

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<v Speaker 2>On the hunt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I haven't really been going to the gym. And

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<v Speaker 3>it actually has gotten my sleep schedule back to where

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<v Speaker 3>it was once.

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<v Speaker 2>Testosterone up? Dick harder?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Not in front of the guests, fam. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that's how the gym works for guys. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like the testosterone goes crazy, dick pumps up.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Did you know, what I say is

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<v Speaker 3>that those schemes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, no, we have weights.

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<v Speaker 1>Pause. We have more beverages. We have more accommodations coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I like salsa.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa. We didn't know. The first guest with a rider

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<v Speaker 3>for the pod. I mean, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to step our game up out here. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the lemon lime. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gave him

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong one.

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<v Speaker 4>The flavor is for the king. The flavorless is for

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<v Speaker 4>the common folk.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, I've had a nice, healthy return. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm fully back into New York, too.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Last time we were together, I was still getting readjusted.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I feel like when you leave, this is what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>I think when you have been in New York for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time, when you first move here, if you

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<v Speaker 3>were transplanted, you had to get your ass beat by

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<v Speaker 3>the city. But then you leave... for a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>like I did. I was gone for like six, seven months.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the city was like, you know, naturally

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<v Speaker 3>the city was just like, oh, you thought shit was sweet? No,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to get jumped back in.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to get jumped back in.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So New York City kind of gave me like a

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<v Speaker 3>quick lashing, you know, of like having a hard time

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<v Speaker 3>finding a place.

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<v Speaker 2>New York City makes everybody cry at least one time.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say that about you.

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<v Speaker 6>The city.

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<v Speaker 2>Not like a specific thing. The city assaults you in

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<v Speaker 2>such a way that it makes everybody cry at least

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<v Speaker 2>one time. It breaks you. What is this?

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<v Speaker 1>It takes the slightest thing to break you. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll make it through the day.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll make it through the day. And then one, you

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<v Speaker 1>hit your foot on a fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Jack was almost crying.

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<v Speaker 4>By the time he gets to my house, he's like,

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<v Speaker 4>the fucking train, and then this motherfucker on the street.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he's like, this fucking, I'm not going to cry.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, the city's about.

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<v Speaker 1>To get him. Let it out, dog. Let it out, dog.

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<v Speaker 2>The city's about to get him.

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<v Speaker 1>The city's about to, the city will get you. The

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<v Speaker 1>city will fucking. And I think I had my light.

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<v Speaker 1>It took me. Yeah, I had my light beating back into.

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<v Speaker 2>It took me, bro.

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<v Speaker 4>The first time I was like, I was doing, it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't the first time, but I had come to New

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<v Speaker 4>York a few times, but I had like a show. And-

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<v Speaker 4>It was just like, at every turn, it was opposition. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I was getting on the train. I remember I asked

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<v Speaker 4>the train lady in the train outfit. I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>is this like the right ways to be for the train?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, what does it say? And I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not from here, so I really don't understand what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm reading. She was like, You just need to read

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<v Speaker 2>it and understand it. But it says.

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<v Speaker 4>Where you need to be. And I was like, but

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<v Speaker 4>I really just don't want to get lost. And she

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<v Speaker 4>was like, I can't help you. And she just like

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<v Speaker 4>left me.

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<v Speaker 1>She went from train lady to train bitch real fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Just left me. Now you just a train bitch. Just

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<v Speaker 1>left me. I was trying to respect you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Now you got to be the train bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, just trying, getting lost.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting lost.

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<v Speaker 2>All types of shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you got to get lost to know where you're going.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a metaphor for life.

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<v Speaker 2>All types of shit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a metaphor for life. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody really helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody going to save you.

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<v Speaker 2>And even then when they're nice, it's like, it's not nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Anytime I get in there.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's how I know I've been here a minute

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<v Speaker 3>or two because people will look at me. People will

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<v Speaker 3>come into me like, hey, I guess I have a

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<v Speaker 3>face that could be like, I can tell you where

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<v Speaker 3>to go. Because people ask me for directions all the

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<v Speaker 3>time on the street. When I tell you I be

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<v Speaker 3>pointing niggas in any direction, I be like, good luck.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nice in New York. It's New York nice.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what I'm saying. It's New York nice. They

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<v Speaker 2>won't really give you real direction.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's like, it's up there for bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you got to think about it. And you're like, yo.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>A few blocks that way. Because you got to think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, right?

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>You just like, okay, yeah. Which way is Broom Street?

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking forgot. I don't know that way. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's over there somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you don't think about it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>By the end of the night, I was waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>the Chinatown to Chinatown bus. It was fucking freezing. Like

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<v Speaker 2>my hands were fucking freezing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I walked into the little station and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>even wrap my finger around the pen.

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<v Speaker 2>To like, Sign the paper.

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<v Speaker 1>Sign the paper.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, that's how fucked up my hands were.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I'm finished, and I'm like, okay, where do

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<v Speaker 4>I get the bus? And this motherfucker goes, six.

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<v Speaker 1>Blocks that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I started bawling.

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<v Speaker 6>I was just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what is this place?

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<v Speaker 1>The city will strangle you.

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<v Speaker 2>The fuck is this, man?

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<v Speaker 1>The city will strangle you.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was like, I'm inside now. I'm warm. I

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<v Speaker 2>can just wait here, and the bus will come.

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<v Speaker 5>No, baby.

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<v Speaker 1>No. The bus ain't coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Take your ass back to the streets. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck this place, yo.

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<v Speaker 1>New York is a beautiful, it's a brutal place. It's

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<v Speaker 1>beautifully brutal. Beautifully brutal city to live in.

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<v Speaker 3>And so like, I think I got like a micro

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<v Speaker 3>ass whooping when I got back because I was gone

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<v Speaker 3>a little too long.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had that L.A. on me a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, too much shine.

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<v Speaker 3>I started walking. I could sense that people were walking

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<v Speaker 3>past me a little faster.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I didn't need to walk this long.

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<v Speaker 2>You were being gayer.

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<v Speaker 1>I was being, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>People were here for that.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, no. No, why you wearing that? Why

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<v Speaker 1>you wearing that? Put them pants on. Bring New York

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<v Speaker 1>gay back up. Be a boy. New York City was

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<v Speaker 1>like Nicki Minaj. Be boys.

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay to be a boy. You back in New York, dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Why you got that fucking tank top on? Put a

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<v Speaker 3>fucking shirt on. Tank top a little too high. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what New York said. I got right back. I snapped

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<v Speaker 3>out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm back.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So how have you been? How have your travels?

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<v Speaker 3>Please tell me all about your travels because I know

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<v Speaker 3>you have lived on a plane for the last two months.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been on a plane for the last two months.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been pretty good. Is this the first one since Australia?

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<v Speaker 3>This is the first one since you went to Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was in Australia for a month.

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<v Speaker 1>How were your shows?

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<v Speaker 2>The shows were great. They were sold out. They were cute.

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<v Speaker 1>The food is amazing in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a time. I walked everywhere. It was nice.

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<v Speaker 2>It was light. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>It was light.

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<v Speaker 2>It was cute. I wasn't mad at it at all,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was ready to go. And then I went to

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<v Speaker 2>Netflix as a joke, you know?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was doing that for a week. It looked

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<v Speaker 1>like you were having the time of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>You called me one day.

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<v Speaker 4>I know the rumor is that only coons were in attendance.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll tell you what. I had me a good-ass time.

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<v Speaker 6>I got excited when I seen the camera pan on you.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, my sister's in the building. She's in the building.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a safe space. What a week I had. Inclusive. Right, right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>What a week I had, you know?

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you had a good time because she called

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<v Speaker 3>me like in the middle of the time there. She

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<v Speaker 3>called me and I could not make out what you

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<v Speaker 3>were saying because your voice was gone. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you've been drunk and yelling.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been drunk. I've been yelling.

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<v Speaker 4>I talked to Kanye. I talked to Eddie Murphy, like

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<v Speaker 4>my two top dudes.

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<v Speaker 2>I did some shows. I did Hollywood Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>How was that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was dope. It was dope. Shane sold it out,

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<v Speaker 2>which was incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Which he's wanting to do now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It was incredible. You know what I mean? And

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<v Speaker 2>then we did TD Garden together, so we went back

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<v Speaker 2>to Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, because you had your theater show in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>I had mine at the Wilbur. That was great. It

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<v Speaker 2>was dope. The people showed up. They showed out. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a good-ass time.

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<v Speaker 4>And then came back the very next weekend to do

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<v Speaker 4>TD Garden with Shane, so that was kind of up

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<v Speaker 4>in fire. He sold out like three nights.

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<v Speaker 6>Dope.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was good to be home.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to be home.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see any of my family. I successfully avoided.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single one of them. That's why the visit worked. Fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Had Chinese food.

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<v Speaker 2>Late night, too. A little fried lobster. It was phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there really any other time they eat Chinese food

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<v Speaker 1>than that?

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<v Speaker 5>Not really.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're doing it in a day, you're a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of shit.

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<v Speaker 1>You're kind of wild. Have you ever had Chinese food?

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many other options. There's so many other options.

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese food is the option. You only want Chinese food

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<v Speaker 1>when it's the only option.

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<v Speaker 2>How is Detroit Chinese?

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty good. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not? Why exactly not?

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<v Speaker 3>What exactly specifically about Detroit Chinese food do you not understand?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Y'all niggas shoes and suits don't speak

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<v Speaker 2>to Chinese.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're not the ones making... Yes, we do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It doesn't feel like a Chinese food place.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Does Detroit feel Chinese food to you?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>It has always been Chinese food. A lot of times.

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<v Speaker 1>You think.

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<v Speaker 2>You think like.

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<v Speaker 1>I think more barbecue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was going to say you think of ribs.

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<v Speaker 5>Wings.

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<v Speaker 1>Barbecue?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, y'all niggas dress like rib niggas.

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<v Speaker 1>We're Coney Island. It's Coney Island.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't they be wearing rib outfits? The niggas be dressing

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<v Speaker 2>like they eat ribs.

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck is a rib outfit?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm talking about. You know it. You

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<v Speaker 2>see it.

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<v Speaker 6>Like the uncle black sandals?

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<v Speaker 2>Or like fly niggas that eat ribs.

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<v Speaker 6>You can wear Cartier buffs. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm glad you all know the origin of those,

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<v Speaker 3>the popularity of those glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>People act like it started here. No, no, no way.

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<v Speaker 1>People like to act like that, though. That would be smooth. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we have Chinese food, beauty supply store.

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<v Speaker 2>We know Detroit got hair.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>We know Detroit got hair.

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<v Speaker 1>We got hair.

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<v Speaker 2>That's always been a thing. Detroit does hair.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why it seem like a rib place. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying? It all lines up with like ribs

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<v Speaker 2>and shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. I would say it's never really been... You're right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's soul food.

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<v Speaker 3>It's soul food and your Coney Island chili dog situation.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will say, I had a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>And Greek food also.

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I had a great time. It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is good to be back in the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the studio.

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<v Speaker 4>It is good to be back with my friend. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very excited about our guest today.

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<v Speaker 1>As am I.

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<v Speaker 4>Our guest today is a real friend of mine. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's always good when a true homie comes on.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's also a rapper. He's also an actor.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say a philosopher of sorts, you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>wrestling promoter. It's just an all around cool ass dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Look back at it. You guys out there. Say what's

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<v Speaker 2>up to my homie Smoke Dizzy.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love that for me. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a hell of an introduction. Welcome. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say it is very nice to be speaking

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<v Speaker 3>to someone who participated in the soundtrack of my college years.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you. What?

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to smoke nigga fucking niggas, bro.

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<v Speaker 5>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my God. She always got to turn it into

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<v Speaker 1>something crazy. You always got to turn it into something crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't even trying to get to you like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my God.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to push you out of this chair.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do that to Alex.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. Give me some room.

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<v Speaker 1>You see how crazy she is? She's crazy with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting over here trying to have a real nigga moment.

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<v Speaker 2>For a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Be like, bro. The first time I hit, the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I started.

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<v Speaker 3>Smoking weed, you was like, you know, you was on

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<v Speaker 3>the iPod.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine. But here she go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's dope, Alex. Here she go.

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<v Speaker 1>No, here you go. I'm sorry. He was on the

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<v Speaker 1>gay sex play list. Like, no.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the first thing that popped into my head.

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<v Speaker 1>She's crazy. That's fucked up. But it is very nice

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you. I'm so happy to have you here.

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<v Speaker 6>Likewise.

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<v Speaker 1>Likewise.

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<v Speaker 3>You are a hot mess that's like that's yeah choke

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<v Speaker 3>yeah that's why look at you that's god that's god

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<v Speaker 3>saying leave alex alone but yes yes we are thrilled

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<v Speaker 3>we are thrilled to be here um.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes thank you for being here um the year the

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<v Speaker 4>year you chose was 1997 right a lot a lot

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<v Speaker 4>going on in this year but we usually like to

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<v Speaker 4>start with just talking to the guests a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>about like where were you like as a person where

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<v Speaker 4>were you living how old were you what was.

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<v Speaker 6>Going on i was 97 i was.

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<v Speaker 2>13 so you were sean.

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<v Speaker 6>I was sean i was little sean um i was

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<v Speaker 6>watching wrestling okay um I was listening to Mase, Harlem World.

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<v Speaker 1>That album came out that year.

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<v Speaker 2>You're living in Harlem.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm living in Harlem.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell me, what is Harlem World doing in Harlem?

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<v Speaker 4>What's the energy in Harlem when Harlem World drops?

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<v Speaker 6>It was just like we finally got somebody that we

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<v Speaker 6>could choose that's our guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>When I was going to Foot Locker and Harlem 125

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<v Speaker 6>and the Mart 125, I would see Mase.

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<v Speaker 1>I would see Drag On. I would see....

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<v Speaker 6>Butting stars that was starting to like, you know, become

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<v Speaker 6>whoever they was becoming in that era. And Mase was

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<v Speaker 6>obviously the biggest star of them all at that time.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So, you know, seeing him while window shopping and just,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, going to Woolworth and stealing candy and doing

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<v Speaker 6>shit that we used to do as little niggas.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, that was like motivation. Like, oh shit, this

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<v Speaker 6>really from him.

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<v Speaker 3>I seen him on tv with the shiny suits like

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<v Speaker 3>east the time i had you know i wanted the

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<v Speaker 3>the uh the red fitted hat with the shiny suit

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<v Speaker 3>yeah yeah the cybertech the cyber you know what i'm

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<v Speaker 3>saying the red the red teams fire engine red teams

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<v Speaker 3>yeah yeah shit like that you know i mean so

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<v Speaker 3>um 97 that was uh that was the year that

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<v Speaker 3>probably opened my eyes to entertainment like actually wanting to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do What grade are you in?

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<v Speaker 5>Eight?

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<v Speaker 3>Ninth?

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<v Speaker 5>Ninth?

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety-seven? Thirteen? I'm in seventh grade.

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<v Speaker 2>You got cut back?

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<v Speaker 1>Nope. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Just making sure. No, that's my word.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, seventh grade. I did get kept back one year.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't that year. That was before I got

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<v Speaker 1>kept back. Not yet.

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<v Speaker 6>That was like two years after that when I decided

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<v Speaker 6>to not go to summer school for a class. And

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<v Speaker 6>they was like, oh yeah, you don't want to go?

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<v Speaker 1>I will see you here next year. Yeah, yeah. That'll

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<v Speaker 1>do it. That'll do it. But yeah, 97, 13.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>13.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a girlfriend?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm fucking with girls, but I don't have a girlfriend yet.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like grabbing titties and kissing and stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sucking titties and I'm finger popping.

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<v Speaker 1>Not just grabbing.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I'm sucking titties at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>You got me fucked up. I know. At 13, I

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<v Speaker 1>was being breastfed.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like honking a little boob. Nah, I was

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<v Speaker 6>being breastfed at 13.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought we were dealing with hood babies.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going for it. Yeah, I was going for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hood babies go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>This Pebble Beach era, you know, we all outside. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Every time, like, this is definitely probably not going to

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<v Speaker 4>make the pod, but every time, just, I was having

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<v Speaker 4>this thought the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, every time I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think about when I was, like, young, doing sex stuff

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<v Speaker 4>that I had no business fucking doing, when I was

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<v Speaker 4>13 and, like, 14, fucking, I'm like, a 13-year-old girl's hygiene?

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<v Speaker 3>Boys hygiene oh man yes that's a smelly what are

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<v Speaker 3>we even talking about that is smelly awkward clumsy sex

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<v Speaker 3>that is a very clumsy yeah and i just think

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<v Speaker 3>about yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like are you are you kidding me literally.

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<v Speaker 4>Playing all day long outside yeah like let's.

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<v Speaker 3>Rub up some private and horny too like yeah like

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<v Speaker 3>What the fuck is going on? And then, yeah, Ed

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<v Speaker 3>being gay and not thinking you gay and then trying

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<v Speaker 3>to be straight and trying to be a boy and

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<v Speaker 3>trying to, like, touch girls.

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<v Speaker 1>And trying to, like, oh, my God, what do I do?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what she was doing? Like, the head of our barricade?

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know what to do with this.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I was traumatized in my first encounter.

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<v Speaker 2>Female encounters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my cousin, I was in the projects and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like 16 and my cousins, there was a girl

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<v Speaker 3>there who, you know, expressed, I don't know what she

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<v Speaker 3>saw in 16-year-old me, but she was like, I got

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<v Speaker 3>a crush on Alex.

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<v Speaker 2>A homo, she had to fuck the gay out of him.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, I gotta fix this nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep this in the pocket. I demand we keep this nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>So my cousins orchestrated this like link up with me

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<v Speaker 3>or her in my aunt's basement. And so we go

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<v Speaker 3>down here and I'm literally just like sitting on the

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<v Speaker 3>couch kind of just like waiting for something to happen

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm not going to like make any sudden movements.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know the first thing to do. And

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<v Speaker 3>so she gets on top and as soon as we start,

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<v Speaker 3>all of my cousins come running down the stairs and

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<v Speaker 3>turn the basement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And not for nothing, this is why.

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<v Speaker 4>This is why people, like our generation, like the generation

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<v Speaker 4>that's after us is like, doesn't get any of how

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<v Speaker 4>all this crazy sexual shit even happened. It's like, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't understand how we grew up. Like, that was like,

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<v Speaker 4>niggas would shove you in a room and be like, fuck!

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<v Speaker 1>Close the door.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're just in there like, I guess we got it.

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<v Speaker 3>We were some fucking beasts, dog. We were some rabid beasts.

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<v Speaker 3>We were behaving badly. We were behaving terribly. We didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know what we were doing was bad. We were just

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<v Speaker 3>acting the fuck up. We didn't have all this.

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<v Speaker 1>Access to like, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Both of y'all would literally not want to fuck, but

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<v Speaker 4>you'd be like, That guy said.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not out there.

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<v Speaker 4>He demands this happens. He's heavily invested.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. Two minutes. Was it two minutes in heaven?

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<v Speaker 1>Two minutes in heaven?

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<v Speaker 2>Seven minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>You gay ass. It took five minutes, Paul. Can we

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<v Speaker 2>just make it happen in two?

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<v Speaker 1>Get me out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Get me out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael not in here. Oh my God.

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<v Speaker 5>So dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>13.

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<v Speaker 1>Mace.

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<v Speaker 2>Mace. 13, Mace.

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<v Speaker 1>Mace. Harlem. So, Mace.

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<v Speaker 3>So, for you, Mace was like, you got to see

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<v Speaker 3>him in his, like, local rapper... unknown stage or did

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<v Speaker 3>he kind of take off the same way that we

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<v Speaker 3>did yeah he.

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<v Speaker 6>Was he was already on TV already had music videos

0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.640
<v Speaker 6>Harlem World was already out right because of Diddy yeah

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<v Speaker 6>so he was already walking around.

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<v Speaker 3>Right because I feel like everything that you were saying

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was picking up like local rappers starting

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<v Speaker 3>and then kind of getting larger because I specifically like

0:20:06.690 --> 0:20:10.010
<v Speaker 3>my experience with that is like seeing Big Sean Like,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm a year younger than Sean. And, like, he

0:20:12.390 --> 0:20:16.500
<v Speaker 3>went to my rival high school. And so you would just, like,

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<v Speaker 3>see him everywhere. You'd see him shopping.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be performing everywhere. And it's been so crazy. Watching

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<v Speaker 1>him glow up pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I distinctly remember going to Club Blue, 18

0:20:28.590 --> 0:20:32.230
<v Speaker 3>and up club, you know, on a weekend. Sean's out

0:20:32.270 --> 0:20:35.660
<v Speaker 3>there passing out. his mixtapes for free. And you would,

0:20:36.060 --> 0:20:37.439
<v Speaker 3>you'd be in the club with the CDs, you would

0:20:37.460 --> 0:20:39.899
<v Speaker 3>walk out and you would see the mixtape on the

0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:41.899
<v Speaker 3>ground in the parking lot. Niggas would just be like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever. And like by 20, like 2007, like 06, 07,

0:20:46.090 --> 0:20:47.570
<v Speaker 3>when he decided not to go to Michigan State and

0:20:47.590 --> 0:20:49.750
<v Speaker 3>he took that risk and went to the movie, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>to the radio, to the radio station and just like,

0:20:52.330 --> 0:20:56.750
<v Speaker 3>we literally watched in real time him like ascend into

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<v Speaker 3>who he has become.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, I just like, I'm like, do you.

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<v Speaker 4>Have like an experience like that? That's so cool that

0:21:01.470 --> 0:21:04.270
<v Speaker 4>you guys get to have that. Cause no, like my

0:21:04.290 --> 0:21:08.250
<v Speaker 4>generation of Boston, like artists is just like dry as fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Like who do you have?

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing was coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not even my generation. That's my brothers.

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<v Speaker 6>Like Smoke Bolger.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>We got, that was it. Like Smoke was like close

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<v Speaker 4>to that.

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<v Speaker 2>And like Mass Pike Miles.

0:21:19.060 --> 0:21:20.139
<v Speaker 1>Mass Pike Miles.

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<v Speaker 4>That was like something that was, but not like, like

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<v Speaker 4>my brothers got like new edition.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? They got to see like something.

0:21:28.470 --> 0:21:29.929
<v Speaker 1>That was like a lot of rock. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>last 50. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>As a result of the new edition, Benzino, which, you know,

0:21:34.630 --> 0:21:36.370
<v Speaker 4>they got to see the beginning of the source. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm not out here being a like Benzino defender,

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<v Speaker 4>but you can say what you want about Ray.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, Ray Benzino. His fingerprints are all over a lot

0:21:43.859 --> 0:21:44.939
<v Speaker 1>of 2000s hip hop.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like the shit he was touching, that shit was crazy.

0:21:47.540 --> 0:21:50.340
<v Speaker 4>That was probably like, outside of Bobby, the biggest shit,

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:51.220
<v Speaker 4>the city I ever received.

0:21:51.260 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Nigga shot in front of Benzina like they don't be

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<v Speaker 1>singing the songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, you had a club in Miami.

0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 1>That shit was popping. Nah, Benzina was up.

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<v Speaker 4>So like, you know, it was like, but that was

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<v Speaker 4>also my brother in them. By the time I'm coming around,

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<v Speaker 4>not to diss, but it's like, you know Free from

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<v Speaker 4>106 Apart?

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<v Speaker 2>She from Boston. It was like, we just didn't have...

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<v Speaker 2>Is she from Boston? Yeah, she is.

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<v Speaker 4>We just didn't have like a big music person, but

0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:14.220
<v Speaker 4>it was like, People were popping out in these kind

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<v Speaker 4>of ways and people were from the area like Ryan Leslie,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was like, no one's really associating him with us.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying? It's like, if you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, but like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that kind of shit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I found it very interesting, Smoke. I was looking at

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<v Speaker 4>this year and there was a big, big, I want

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<v Speaker 4>to say indictment that came down.

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<v Speaker 2>In Harlem, it was, I was like, I went with smoke.

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<v Speaker 4>Because, you know, especially I think when you're that young,

0:22:45.140 --> 0:22:47.119
<v Speaker 4>the version that you're hearing of shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>It's way bigger. It's insane.

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<v Speaker 4>But on October 27, 1997, the police targeted the Rolling

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:56.500
<v Speaker 4>30s Harlem, Crips in East Harlem.

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<v Speaker 2>The pre-dawn raid involving 300.

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<v Speaker 4>Officers that resulted in 24 individuals being indicted, 27 members

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<v Speaker 4>going to prison for one reason or another.

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<v Speaker 1>Overall.

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<v Speaker 2>You had no idea this happened?

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<v Speaker 1>No idea. I was 13. I didn't give a fuck

0:23:11.070 --> 0:23:12.270
<v Speaker 1>about gangs at that point.

0:23:12.310 --> 0:23:13.889
<v Speaker 2>I was about to say, that means you were living

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<v Speaker 2>a good life.

0:23:14.780 --> 0:23:16.899
<v Speaker 1>I was a good kid, Sam. That's good. I was

0:23:16.940 --> 0:23:19.899
<v Speaker 1>a great kid. I wasn't into that. Except for when

0:23:19.940 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 1>you were sucking on titties.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, you know, that's, yeah, I don't think

0:23:23.700 --> 0:23:25.899
<v Speaker 6>that's considered being a bad kid.

0:23:25.940 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Titties is a gangway drug.

0:23:27.580 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Titties is a gangway drug. Of course, that's true.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think I got introduced to learning about gangs

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<v Speaker 6>the year before. And that was just, I didn't even

0:23:39.730 --> 0:23:44.470
<v Speaker 6>know Crips existed in New York City until maybe like 98, 99.

0:23:44.470 --> 0:23:48.090
<v Speaker 2>Y'all brought that shit to the East Coast, I think.

0:23:48.250 --> 0:23:48.970
<v Speaker 1>Because I feel like the Bloods.

0:23:48.990 --> 0:23:51.430
<v Speaker 2>Because that was not a thing that we did. I

0:23:51.470 --> 0:23:53.070
<v Speaker 2>remember being in high school and all of a sudden

0:23:53.109 --> 0:23:54.410
<v Speaker 2>it was Crips and Bloods and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, New York had gangs, but they were more like Decepticons.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>From the Warriors type shit.

0:24:01.510 --> 0:24:03.449
<v Speaker 1>The old guys, the gangs. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Ours was neighborhoods and it was sports teams. It was like.

0:24:06.190 --> 0:24:09.130
<v Speaker 4>The little giants live over here.

0:24:09.150 --> 0:24:10.510
<v Speaker 2>And they would wear the hat. That's how you knew

0:24:10.530 --> 0:24:11.890
<v Speaker 2>the gang, because they would wear the team's hat.

0:24:12.250 --> 0:24:15.340
<v Speaker 1>But it was all neighborhood-y. Ours was just, like, east side,

0:24:15.380 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>west side. That makes sense. And, like, Projects.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Project B.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we had that, too. Project got its own shit.

0:24:21.460 --> 0:24:22.160
<v Speaker 1>We had that, too.

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<v Speaker 6>But, like, my neighborhood was, like, the vigilantes. Like, that was, like,

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.859
<v Speaker 6>you know. And they were all, like, you know, not

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:31.780
<v Speaker 6>to put their, whatever. They were street guys that did

0:24:31.820 --> 0:24:34.160
<v Speaker 6>shit in the streets. So, you know, that was their thing.

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<v Speaker 6>But I really wasn't. That was just new news to me.

0:24:37.850 --> 0:24:38.010
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 6>Because I didn't even know it was an indictment with

0:24:40.490 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 6>the role in 30s in Harlem in 97.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>I was curious because I just feel like in general,

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<v Speaker 4>when you're a kid and you grow up in the hood,

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<v Speaker 4>we got to find another thing to call it.

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<v Speaker 2>It really drives me crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>The hood. But it is the hood, though. It is

0:24:57.070 --> 0:24:58.950
<v Speaker 1>the hood. What about the hood?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just fighting for a change of name. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 6>You gotta come with the name it's up.

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:04.899
<v Speaker 4>To us we can't let someone else do it for

0:25:04.940 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 4>sure but I'm like it feels so like up from

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:08.619
<v Speaker 4>the hood.

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 3>You better figure out what the name is you better

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:14.180
<v Speaker 3>figure out what the name is before some white people before.

0:25:14.260 --> 0:25:15.820
<v Speaker 2>Some white people write the rose for it.

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<v Speaker 6>Exactly that's hilarious But you know, Sam, I feel like

0:25:19.300 --> 0:25:20.919
<v Speaker 6>we used to call it the ghetto.

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:22.330
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. Which is worse.

0:25:22.430 --> 0:25:23.210
<v Speaker 6>But I think we.

0:25:23.130 --> 0:25:25.170
<v Speaker 1>Call it the hood. The hood. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:25:25.310 --> 0:25:26.409
<v Speaker 2>I don't like the ghetto.

0:25:26.730 --> 0:25:27.910
<v Speaker 1>The ghetto is just too, like.

0:25:27.930 --> 0:25:29.330
<v Speaker 2>The ghetto is, like, trash.

0:25:29.350 --> 0:25:30.070
<v Speaker 1>Like, nasty.

0:25:30.210 --> 0:25:31.990
<v Speaker 3>And you were bringing up the block, but I would

0:25:32.030 --> 0:25:36.510
<v Speaker 3>say the hood is, like, an encapsulation.

0:25:35.910 --> 0:25:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Of multiple blocks. Of multiple blocks. Because it's not just

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.420
<v Speaker 1>one block. Everybody got a block.

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:43.860
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like, growing up like that, when you

0:25:43.900 --> 0:25:46.210
<v Speaker 2>were younger... you would always hear.

0:25:46.250 --> 0:25:48.910
<v Speaker 4>Like, I don't know, the adult whisperings of what was

0:25:48.950 --> 0:25:51.780
<v Speaker 4>going on. And then in your mind, you know what

0:25:51.820 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean? It was so much bigger. Because it's like,

0:25:54.580 --> 0:25:55.740
<v Speaker 4>it's really not your business.

0:25:55.780 --> 0:25:57.780
<v Speaker 6>You know what that was for me? The Paid in

0:25:57.800 --> 0:25:58.379
<v Speaker 6>Full story.

0:25:58.780 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 4>Really?

0:25:58.980 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 6>Before Paid in Full came out, I already was familiar

0:26:02.010 --> 0:26:04.790
<v Speaker 6>with the story. We're out pulling Rich Porter and Rich

0:26:04.830 --> 0:26:09.570
<v Speaker 6>Porter's brother getting his fingers jerk paws and put in

0:26:09.590 --> 0:26:12.210
<v Speaker 6>the fucking McDonald's for them to go find him in

0:26:12.230 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 6>the McDonald's bathroom. And It was just, you know, you

0:26:16.300 --> 0:26:19.260
<v Speaker 6>would think those guys had like a 10-year run when

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:20.820
<v Speaker 6>it was literally just a couple summers.

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:23.940
<v Speaker 2>But it was like Harlem lore forever.

0:26:24.220 --> 0:26:26.250
<v Speaker 6>But it was just a story that people will tell

0:26:26.710 --> 0:26:27.630
<v Speaker 6>until the end of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like every neighborhood's got that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Every city's got that type of, you know what I mean?

0:26:36.230 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 4>Ours was like, I want to say God over there

0:26:40.150 --> 0:26:42.260
<v Speaker 4>in O.P., That was the thing.

0:26:42.300 --> 0:26:44.740
<v Speaker 2>Especially when Into Deep came out, we were like, that's

0:26:44.830 --> 0:26:49.050
<v Speaker 2>not really about Boston. Some Boston nigga's going to listen

0:26:49.070 --> 0:26:49.330
<v Speaker 2>to this.

0:26:49.350 --> 0:26:49.990
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't OP.

0:26:50.050 --> 0:26:52.190
<v Speaker 2>It was da-da-da-da. I don't care.

0:26:52.730 --> 0:26:53.790
<v Speaker 1>That's my dad.

0:26:53.810 --> 0:26:56.470
<v Speaker 3>That's my dad talking about BMF.

0:26:56.930 --> 0:27:00.120
<v Speaker 1>That's my dad talking about BMF. That didn't really happen. Nigga,

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 1>this is for entertainment purposes. Shut up.

0:27:02.060 --> 0:27:04.380
<v Speaker 2>No one's going to live and die on this anymore.

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:08.899
<v Speaker 4>Nobody. But yeah, that was kind of what stuck out

0:27:08.940 --> 0:27:10.990
<v Speaker 4>to me, like just off top, because I was like, yo,

0:27:11.010 --> 0:27:13.970
<v Speaker 4>Smoke's from Harlem. I wonder if that caught like his

0:27:14.210 --> 0:27:15.130
<v Speaker 4>air and shit like that.

0:27:15.609 --> 0:27:17.670
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying? Or landed on you.

0:27:18.290 --> 0:27:23.050
<v Speaker 1>What do you think of today's Harlem? Gentrified. Well, yeah.

0:27:23.450 --> 0:27:24.730
<v Speaker 1>Today's Harlem, but I mean.

0:27:24.869 --> 0:27:27.410
<v Speaker 3>But there's still like a pocket of like, you know,

0:27:27.710 --> 0:27:30.530
<v Speaker 3>black people who get together and do things.

0:27:30.670 --> 0:27:30.790
<v Speaker 5>No.

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.140
<v Speaker 6>I would say it's a pocket of people that know

0:27:34.220 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 6>each other that might have been there.

0:27:36.140 --> 0:27:38.500
<v Speaker 1>For a long time. But not real Harlem, not Harlemites.

0:27:39.780 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 6>I think it's more people that's not from Harlem that

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:45.540
<v Speaker 6>live in Harlem than people that actually was born and

0:27:45.580 --> 0:27:46.140
<v Speaker 6>raised in Harlem.

0:27:46.460 --> 0:27:46.859
<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay.

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.260
<v Speaker 6>Like, it's certain pockets that you'll find people in bunches

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 6>like that. But then, you know, for me, it's kind

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:53.540
<v Speaker 6>of a good thing.

0:27:54.020 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 4>Mm-hmm.

0:27:54.580 --> 0:27:58.090
<v Speaker 6>Because, you know, or at least for, like, my age

0:27:58.140 --> 0:28:01.449
<v Speaker 6>bracket of people, like, I don't like going back and

0:28:01.490 --> 0:28:03.470
<v Speaker 6>seeing my friends in the same places I left.

0:28:03.510 --> 0:28:05.130
<v Speaker 1>Right. It bothers me. Right.

0:28:05.590 --> 0:28:08.429
<v Speaker 6>So, so when I go back and, you know, I

0:28:08.490 --> 0:28:12.679
<v Speaker 6>hear people that never had a job has a job

0:28:13.180 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 6>and they're like working and killing it. And it's just

0:28:15.660 --> 0:28:18.060
<v Speaker 6>like just doing a regular job, but I'm just so

0:28:18.180 --> 0:28:22.060
<v Speaker 6>happy that they, they're not on a corner or in

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 6>front of the building and you, whatever job that you

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 6>got going on and you're doing something with yourself.

0:28:27.500 --> 0:28:30.189
<v Speaker 1>So, I don't know. I like it.

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 6>I like the gentrification part because my mom is still there.

0:28:34.100 --> 0:28:36.139
<v Speaker 6>And I like the fact that she could walk around

0:28:36.260 --> 0:28:39.020
<v Speaker 6>and be free and not have to really worry.

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:28:39.500 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

0:28:40.830 --> 0:28:42.950
<v Speaker 6>And then, you know, I was there my whole life

0:28:43.810 --> 0:28:44.850
<v Speaker 6>until I got out of there.

0:28:44.890 --> 0:28:47.910
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of my friends will, that's their mom too.

0:28:47.990 --> 0:28:50.210
<v Speaker 6>So if my mom is walking with bags or something,

0:28:50.250 --> 0:28:52.950
<v Speaker 6>you know, somebody's going to take her bags and walk

0:28:52.990 --> 0:28:53.740
<v Speaker 6>them to the building.

0:28:53.780 --> 0:28:53.860
<v Speaker 4>So.

0:28:54.950 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>It's pros and cons.

0:28:56.300 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Harlem.

0:28:57.180 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, shout out to Harlem.

0:28:57.980 --> 0:28:59.700
<v Speaker 2>Still very neighborhood-y, I will say that.

0:28:59.900 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>For sure.

0:29:00.300 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>For the time that I lived there.

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:02.300
<v Speaker 6>You are Harlem-like.

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:06.540
<v Speaker 2>You from Austin, but you from Harlem, too. I'm honorary Harlem.

0:29:06.700 --> 0:29:07.650
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we claim you.

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:08.700
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:09.740
<v Speaker 1>It felt good like that.

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:11.510
<v Speaker 3>I never let New Yorkers tell me I'm a New

0:29:11.550 --> 0:29:14.170
<v Speaker 3>Yorker unless they're a New Yorker that gives it to me.

0:29:14.250 --> 0:29:17.090
<v Speaker 3>I'm not one of those where like, oh, no, well,

0:29:17.170 --> 0:29:18.550
<v Speaker 3>you got to be here 10 years.

0:29:18.590 --> 0:29:22.250
<v Speaker 1>Nah, Sam had me outside. I don't like outside no more. Oh,

0:29:22.290 --> 0:29:23.350
<v Speaker 1>because of Sam? No, no, no.

0:29:23.790 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 6>I didn't like outside before that. Sam would have me outside. Like,

0:29:28.100 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 6>I'm doing, like, in Harlem outside.

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 2>In Harlem.

0:29:31.540 --> 0:29:31.980
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.350
<v Speaker 2>One time, folks could hate this.

0:29:35.510 --> 0:29:36.350
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can't wait.

0:29:36.530 --> 0:29:38.130
<v Speaker 2>One time we was out, we was in Harlem, we

0:29:38.150 --> 0:29:39.950
<v Speaker 2>was outside, and, like, I like.

0:29:40.330 --> 0:29:42.370
<v Speaker 4>I be outside in Harlem, so people really like, what

0:29:42.410 --> 0:29:44.100
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, what I'm saying, no bullshit.

0:29:44.390 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 2>No bullshit, not even on no bullshit.

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:47.820
<v Speaker 4>Because some Harlem niggas gonna listen to this, like, I

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 4>never see her before, and that's fine, I don't go

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:51.420
<v Speaker 4>down your street.

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:56.900
<v Speaker 1>And my, note that she did one of these, like, shoo,

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.540
<v Speaker 1>off my property. But, I be around.

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:01.580
<v Speaker 2>I be around when the people be around. I'll say that.

0:30:01.660 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying?

0:30:03.020 --> 0:30:04.500
<v Speaker 1>You gather. You brought people together.

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:06.900
<v Speaker 4>I don't be in the crevices and stuff, but I

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:08.390
<v Speaker 4>done turned my little street into some block.

0:30:08.230 --> 0:30:09.010
<v Speaker 1>Parties for some kids.

0:30:09.030 --> 0:30:09.630
<v Speaker 2>They'll remember me.

0:30:09.650 --> 0:30:10.430
<v Speaker 1>Y'all remember? Ice cream trucks.

0:30:10.450 --> 0:30:11.650
<v Speaker 2>I threw some ice cream trucks up for free.

0:30:11.670 --> 0:30:14.530
<v Speaker 1>The hood remembers. The youth will remember. You know what

0:30:14.670 --> 0:30:15.130
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying?

0:30:15.150 --> 0:30:15.910
<v Speaker 2>I was out there.

0:30:16.110 --> 0:30:16.370
<v Speaker 1>Facts.

0:30:16.430 --> 0:30:18.150
<v Speaker 3>Taking faces and everything.

0:30:18.170 --> 0:30:21.170
<v Speaker 4>And we were out and we were on some side street.

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:25.540
<v Speaker 4>And this dude was taking pictures, right? So he's like, yo,

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:29.610
<v Speaker 4>gotta get a picture. Me and Smoke stayed together.

0:30:29.630 --> 0:30:30.410
<v Speaker 2>He goes, nah, nah.

0:30:31.190 --> 0:30:32.570
<v Speaker 1>He moved Smoke at home.

0:30:32.590 --> 0:30:38.479
<v Speaker 4>Took a picture of me. And then I think he

0:30:38.500 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 4>got one of us together. And when he left, I

0:30:40.780 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 4>was like, I ran home with him.

0:30:42.900 --> 0:30:47.770
<v Speaker 6>True story, though.

0:30:48.350 --> 0:30:50.150
<v Speaker 1>And you couldn't do nothing.

0:30:50.170 --> 0:30:52.830
<v Speaker 3>You couldn't do nothing but just sit there.

0:30:52.930 --> 0:30:55.550
<v Speaker 1>I just loved it. I'm like, I'm with the mayor.

0:30:55.570 --> 0:30:58.260
<v Speaker 1>You with the mayor. You know what I'm saying? I'm

0:30:58.300 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>with the mayor. You know?

0:31:00.220 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 2>It was so funny.

0:31:01.300 --> 0:31:01.780
<v Speaker 1>That's so funny.

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:06.100
<v Speaker 2>Also, I thought we should dive into this because you're

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:07.380
<v Speaker 2>a music guy. And I just think it was just

0:31:07.420 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 2>big for everybody.

0:31:09.540 --> 0:31:14.490
<v Speaker 4>On March 9th in 1997, Biggie is murdered in Los Angeles.

0:31:14.910 --> 0:31:15.860
<v Speaker 1>I remember watching it.

0:31:15.950 --> 0:31:20.350
<v Speaker 6>I remember watching Kurt Lauder come across MTV and break

0:31:20.390 --> 0:31:23.830
<v Speaker 6>the news. And I was so sad. I think that

0:31:23.850 --> 0:31:28.170
<v Speaker 6>was the first time a celebrity made me sad. I

0:31:28.230 --> 0:31:32.070
<v Speaker 6>can't fucking believe that they would fucking do this. And

0:31:32.110 --> 0:31:35.970
<v Speaker 6>it wasn't like, you know, when Tupac was getting shot,

0:31:36.580 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 6>it was kind of like, he'll be rapping about it

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:40.620
<v Speaker 6>next week.

0:31:41.660 --> 0:31:43.180
<v Speaker 2>It was kind of like- You thought Pac was going

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 2>to live.

0:31:43.460 --> 0:31:44.700
<v Speaker 1>He ain't never going to die. Right.

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.140
<v Speaker 6>At some point, it was like, he's just Teflon.

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.690
<v Speaker 1>He's going to be FF. Even when he died, allegedly. Yeah, yeah.

0:31:50.770 --> 0:31:52.550
<v Speaker 1>And I could say allegedly still.

0:31:52.890 --> 0:31:53.450
<v Speaker 2>No, now.

0:31:53.450 --> 0:31:53.970
<v Speaker 1>20 years later.

0:31:54.030 --> 0:31:55.890
<v Speaker 2>Now people are still like, pops on an island.

0:31:55.930 --> 0:31:57.710
<v Speaker 1>He's here. But his dad is in my pocket.

0:31:57.730 --> 0:31:58.030
<v Speaker 3>Dad is here.

0:31:58.050 --> 0:31:59.770
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying? Dad is here. But when

0:31:59.830 --> 0:32:02.209
<v Speaker 1>Biggie died, it was like, damn, Biggie's really dead.

0:32:02.330 --> 0:32:03.370
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. It was automatic.

0:32:03.390 --> 0:32:05.380
<v Speaker 3>What are we going to do? How are we going

0:32:05.390 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 3>to come back from this? Because I was a Rockefeller

0:32:06.820 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 3>bad boy, baby.

0:32:07.620 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just like, where do we go from here?

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>We don't got Biggie. It's no more music. We stuck

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>with Puff Dad. Exactly.

0:32:17.540 --> 0:32:19.100
<v Speaker 2>At the time, this is really how I felt.

0:32:19.180 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 1>It literally stuck.

0:32:20.300 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 4>This is also like real New York nigga turmoil. I

0:32:23.500 --> 0:32:24.940
<v Speaker 4>don't think anyone else is going through.

0:32:24.820 --> 0:32:25.380
<v Speaker 2>It like this.

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:26.500
<v Speaker 1>I'm going through it.

0:32:26.540 --> 0:32:28.180
<v Speaker 4>What's going to happen to all of me?

0:32:28.260 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 6>It was so tough for us that we gave Sean

0:32:31.180 --> 0:32:31.740
<v Speaker 6>a hard time.

0:32:32.380 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:32:32.900 --> 0:32:33.140
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:32:33.380 --> 0:32:34.050
<v Speaker 2>For sounding like him.

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.610
<v Speaker 6>For sounding like him. And when you listen to, Sean

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 6>does not sound like me. But I think we just

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:41.140
<v Speaker 6>wanted Biggie so bad.

0:32:41.220 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>It was so close and it was recent.

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:45.930
<v Speaker 6>And it was just, it felt like, wait, you're going

0:32:45.950 --> 0:32:47.590
<v Speaker 6>to have this guy try to fill the void?

0:32:47.970 --> 0:32:48.230
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:32:48.270 --> 0:32:49.590
<v Speaker 1>Nah, we not jacking that.

0:32:49.770 --> 0:32:52.350
<v Speaker 4>I remember when Tupac died, I was living with my

0:32:52.390 --> 0:32:55.340
<v Speaker 4>cousin and her boyfriend and her boyfriend used to be

0:32:55.380 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 4>like this big time, like dude in.

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 2>The hood, made a lot of money. And he came

0:33:00.940 --> 0:33:03.270
<v Speaker 2>in my room, like I was like asleep. And he

0:33:03.310 --> 0:33:08.850
<v Speaker 2>woke me up. He was like, Samaria. He was like,

0:33:09.110 --> 0:33:09.930
<v Speaker 2>box dead.

0:33:10.730 --> 0:33:13.010
<v Speaker 4>And he just like walked out. And I remember sitting

0:33:13.070 --> 0:33:15.850
<v Speaker 4>at my bed like groggy. And I was like, at

0:33:15.890 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 4>first I was getting sad.

0:33:16.820 --> 0:33:17.450
<v Speaker 2>And then I was like.

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Why this nigga wake me up?

0:33:23.180 --> 0:33:25.540
<v Speaker 1>Like, what the fuck? Like the towers just fell.

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:27.220
<v Speaker 2>He's trying to force an emotion on me. You know

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:30.270
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying? Like, it was crazy.

0:33:30.350 --> 0:33:32.710
<v Speaker 1>It was almost like, Pac just died. Pack your bags.

0:33:32.770 --> 0:33:34.810
<v Speaker 1>We got to go somewhere. Yeah.

0:33:34.830 --> 0:33:37.350
<v Speaker 2>Well, you better be hurt, nigga.

0:33:37.410 --> 0:33:39.230
<v Speaker 6>All the gangsters was hurt when Pac died.

0:33:39.270 --> 0:33:41.150
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. They was hurt. One might say that

0:33:41.170 --> 0:33:43.100
<v Speaker 1>was the first time some of them niggas shed any tears.

0:33:44.140 --> 0:33:48.070
<v Speaker 6>It was a lot of thug passion thug tears yeah

0:33:48.230 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 6>a lot of alizé a lot of thug passion a

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 6>lot of.

0:33:50.660 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 4>Crown royal red alizé specifically yeah Guys was.

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:58.180
<v Speaker 2>Going to the red, which is dangerous stuff. That red

0:33:58.200 --> 0:33:58.460
<v Speaker 2>is dangerous.

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.460
<v Speaker 1>That shit was like hot tech lean.

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:03.900
<v Speaker 2>That red? Dangerous.

0:34:03.940 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Dangerous stuff, brother. And it's fizzy, too. It's fizzy.

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I was in, I might have corrupted, oh, Melbourne. So

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:12.220
<v Speaker 2>back to Melbourne.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.320
<v Speaker 4>I was in Melbourne and I went to this bar

0:34:15.500 --> 0:34:18.620
<v Speaker 4>and they had Blue Alizé. And I was like, what

0:34:18.660 --> 0:34:20.339
<v Speaker 4>the fuck are y'all doing with Blue Alizé?

0:34:20.380 --> 0:34:21.060
<v Speaker 1>How did this get to y'all?

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:25.070
<v Speaker 2>How did Blue Alizé get to you people? Like, what?

0:34:25.090 --> 0:34:27.290
<v Speaker 4>And he was like, we been, we've had it since

0:34:27.330 --> 0:34:28.790
<v Speaker 4>like the 90s. This guy was telling me he was like,

0:34:28.810 --> 0:34:32.049
<v Speaker 4>grew up there. He's like, you know, from rappers and stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah.

0:34:32.070 --> 0:34:33.720
<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, what rapper did a show?

0:34:33.739 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>We don't even rap about that no more.

0:34:34.820 --> 0:34:38.259
<v Speaker 2>What rapper did a show? Like, ask for this. And

0:34:38.300 --> 0:34:40.140
<v Speaker 2>now this is just like a part of the culture.

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:41.839
<v Speaker 1>Was it Pac? I don't know.

0:34:41.860 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get an answer for that. I feel like

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 1>he was in Australia.

0:34:46.860 --> 0:34:47.969
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get an answer for that.

0:34:48.110 --> 0:34:49.700
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he did go to art school.

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:51.690
<v Speaker 2>Then I'm in this bar and they have Hennessy in

0:34:51.710 --> 0:34:54.549
<v Speaker 2>the blue. So I'm like, oh, have you guys ever

0:34:54.570 --> 0:34:58.430
<v Speaker 2>had Incredible Hope? And they're like, what's that? You changed

0:34:58.469 --> 0:34:58.890
<v Speaker 2>their life.

0:34:59.530 --> 0:35:02.830
<v Speaker 4>So then the other three bartenders drink one. They're like, nah,

0:35:02.989 --> 0:35:06.049
<v Speaker 4>this is pretty good. And then some girl was like,

0:35:06.090 --> 0:35:07.890
<v Speaker 4>what are you guys drinking? So then they made her

0:35:07.989 --> 0:35:13.350
<v Speaker 4>one and I was like, I brought Incredible home.

0:35:13.390 --> 0:35:17.830
<v Speaker 1>To Melbourne. So now you the mayor of Melbourne.

0:35:17.930 --> 0:35:19.590
<v Speaker 6>You hit them with some good 90s swag.

0:35:19.610 --> 0:35:21.089
<v Speaker 2>I put them on to something, you know?

0:35:21.130 --> 0:35:21.850
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they needed that.

0:35:22.070 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Also probably going to be the downfall of their community.

0:35:24.100 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>That has yet to be proven, though. So you're fine.

0:35:27.620 --> 0:35:30.980
<v Speaker 1>You're fine. Smoke, you mentioned someone that made my ears

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:32.300
<v Speaker 1>perk up. Yeah.

0:35:32.969 --> 0:35:35.290
<v Speaker 3>You mentioned that you had the news of Diddy passing

0:35:35.330 --> 0:35:37.190
<v Speaker 3>from Kurt Loder on MTV.

0:35:37.590 --> 0:35:38.870
<v Speaker 2>Biggie.

0:35:39.070 --> 0:35:40.090
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Biggie.

0:35:40.350 --> 0:35:43.280
<v Speaker 3>And it's kind of funny when you think about how

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.980
<v Speaker 3>he truly was the Tom Brokaw of MTV.

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 1>It was.

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:51.259
<v Speaker 3>It was celebrity death time. You never really wanted to

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:51.879
<v Speaker 3>see Kurt Loder.

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 2>Not come flashing. Not coming back.

0:35:54.460 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Not cutting into Todd TRL. The regular dude's cool, but

0:35:57.900 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 1>when he come flashing. Oh, yeah.

0:35:59.860 --> 0:36:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Always somebody. Kurt Cobain.

0:36:01.340 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, somebody died.

0:36:02.580 --> 0:36:03.500
<v Speaker 2>Somebody.

0:36:03.580 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Or there was some major political thing that absolutely just

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:07.339
<v Speaker 3>had to be said.

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:08.910
<v Speaker 1>It had nothing to do with music.

0:36:09.050 --> 0:36:13.090
<v Speaker 2>Also, shout out to back then, like, They really cared

0:36:13.190 --> 0:36:16.069
<v Speaker 2>if people our age understood world news.

0:36:16.110 --> 0:36:17.130
<v Speaker 1>The world. Absolutely.

0:36:17.190 --> 0:36:20.910
<v Speaker 2>Like the world. Like there was Nick News with Linda Ellerbee.

0:36:20.950 --> 0:36:22.450
<v Speaker 1>Linda Ellerbee.

0:36:22.489 --> 0:36:25.290
<v Speaker 2>She would lay the news on you. Then Carlota would

0:36:25.310 --> 0:36:26.290
<v Speaker 2>just tell us. Is she still with us? In the

0:36:26.310 --> 0:36:28.529
<v Speaker 2>middle of like a Britney Spears video, he would be like,

0:36:28.730 --> 0:36:31.410
<v Speaker 2>Iraq is getting bombed. Break the fuck down.

0:36:32.590 --> 0:36:34.710
<v Speaker 1>You need to know. Yes. I don't know what you're

0:36:34.730 --> 0:36:35.360
<v Speaker 1>going to do about it.

0:36:35.390 --> 0:36:36.350
<v Speaker 5>Right. But you need to know.

0:36:36.390 --> 0:36:37.590
<v Speaker 1>You got two options. Turn on the news or keep

0:36:37.610 --> 0:36:39.460
<v Speaker 1>watching this. And then go back to the video. But

0:36:39.500 --> 0:36:41.100
<v Speaker 1>now you know. You can't say you didn't know because

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>we told you.

0:36:43.180 --> 0:36:46.580
<v Speaker 2>We really got away from MTV being an important place.

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, not just for music, but just for, like, culture.

0:37:04.460 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Just for the culture. Kind of being aware of things,

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:08.319
<v Speaker 1>you know? We got to get back to that.

0:37:08.340 --> 0:37:09.819
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that we do.

0:37:10.060 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I think we do. I mean, no one's watching these programs.

0:37:12.060 --> 0:37:13.900
<v Speaker 2>We need something that does that. We need something that

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:14.940
<v Speaker 2>does that. But I don't know that MTV needs to

0:37:14.980 --> 0:37:16.089
<v Speaker 2>be the thing that does it anymore.

0:37:16.110 --> 0:37:18.270
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't think these kids care about television anymore.

0:37:18.350 --> 0:37:20.650
<v Speaker 1>Also that, period. They don't. Also that.

0:37:21.050 --> 0:37:24.650
<v Speaker 2>They just, they'd rather, rather than, like, listen to some,

0:37:24.690 --> 0:37:26.630
<v Speaker 2>and I get what happened. People lied so much they

0:37:26.650 --> 0:37:28.730
<v Speaker 2>don't know what to believe. So a lot of that

0:37:28.790 --> 0:37:29.270
<v Speaker 2>is on us.

0:37:29.430 --> 0:37:31.630
<v Speaker 4>Like, They are a generation who's truly been lied to

0:37:31.670 --> 0:37:33.390
<v Speaker 4>about every fucking thing.

0:37:33.750 --> 0:37:34.509
<v Speaker 2>You know, down to.

0:37:34.530 --> 0:37:35.310
<v Speaker 1>Santa Claus on a.

0:37:35.450 --> 0:37:36.730
<v Speaker 2>Down to aliens at this point.

0:37:36.750 --> 0:37:38.350
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're just like... Don't let us go down

0:37:38.370 --> 0:37:38.950
<v Speaker 1>that road again.

0:37:39.030 --> 0:37:40.330
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the fuck to think.

0:37:40.850 --> 0:37:43.049
<v Speaker 4>But it's like, these kids would rather listen to, like,

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:46.779
<v Speaker 4>a dude in a dirty t-shirt in his basement give

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 4>them information than, like, anything that looks educated.

0:37:50.300 --> 0:37:51.299
<v Speaker 1>Or, like.

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 6>You gotta talk to them in their language.

0:37:53.660 --> 0:37:54.299
<v Speaker 2>Yo, they're like, no.

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:56.450
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what it is. Yeah.

0:37:56.890 --> 0:38:00.109
<v Speaker 3>I mean, just imagine, like, how many people wouldn't think

0:38:00.150 --> 0:38:04.410
<v Speaker 3>that the Diana Ross, not Diana, not Diana Ross, Princess Diana.

0:38:04.489 --> 0:38:07.710
<v Speaker 2>That's the same people, that same thing?

0:38:08.690 --> 0:38:11.739
<v Speaker 3>Because the Diana, the Princess Diana's car crash was in

0:38:11.780 --> 0:38:12.259
<v Speaker 3>that year.

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:15.750
<v Speaker 4>But what's crazy, like, even though we were looking at it,

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 4>you see, as you see, as well, we're prepared, we

0:38:18.020 --> 0:38:18.839
<v Speaker 4>do documents here.

0:38:18.940 --> 0:38:21.020
<v Speaker 1>Oh, no, I see. We don't fuck around. We don't

0:38:21.060 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 1>fuck around. We fuck around, but we don't. With images

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:23.620
<v Speaker 1>on it and all that.

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:25.470
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, because sometimes you need.

0:38:25.260 --> 0:38:27.089
<v Speaker 1>That as a reference. Jabari's the good researcher.

0:38:27.110 --> 0:38:27.850
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Jabari.

0:38:27.870 --> 0:38:28.190
<v Speaker 4>Mm-hmm.

0:38:29.060 --> 0:38:30.460
<v Speaker 2>We be coming with that heat.

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:33.379
<v Speaker 4>This is also the year, we were talking about it, Alex,

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:37.730
<v Speaker 4>when they had that Senate hearing and they denied that

0:38:37.750 --> 0:38:42.690
<v Speaker 4>aliens were a thing. You know what I mean? In 97,

0:38:42.690 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 4>we were still in a world with no aliens. And

0:38:45.700 --> 0:38:47.740
<v Speaker 4>then these kids are in a world of very much...

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:49.489
<v Speaker 4>We ain't sure.

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:51.100
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we heard stories about aliens.

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:53.420
<v Speaker 2>Like, we were definite that's fucking crazy.

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Alien stories were in the tabloids.

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:55.100
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>But they weren't something to be, like, you know, considered

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:58.620
<v Speaker 1>as fact. Taken seriously at all. Yeah.

0:38:58.739 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I can't find that here.

0:39:01.219 --> 0:39:03.980
<v Speaker 3>And now Trump straight up is just saying. But also

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:07.030
<v Speaker 3>Obama told us. Obama told us, too.

0:39:07.050 --> 0:39:08.430
<v Speaker 2>No, he kind of told us.

0:39:09.790 --> 0:39:12.029
<v Speaker 1>You feel like you had an alien encounter before in life?

0:39:12.330 --> 0:39:13.589
<v Speaker 2>Do I think I ever had one?

0:39:13.690 --> 0:39:17.549
<v Speaker 4>Hmm. Okay, there was one time in my life, it

0:39:17.620 --> 0:39:19.850
<v Speaker 4>wasn't an encounter, but I swore I did see a

0:39:19.870 --> 0:39:21.589
<v Speaker 4>spacecraft type vehicle.

0:39:21.850 --> 0:39:22.310
<v Speaker 2>In the sky.

0:39:22.350 --> 0:39:24.330
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, it was late night and I

0:39:24.350 --> 0:39:26.250
<v Speaker 4>was out and I had just moved to my cousin's

0:39:26.270 --> 0:39:28.790
<v Speaker 4>house in the suburbs. And I was just standing in

0:39:28.810 --> 0:39:32.500
<v Speaker 4>the backyard by myself. And it didn't look like it

0:39:32.540 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 4>was the shape of any type of plane I had seen.

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 4>And it had like weird lights going on in there.

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I swear to God.

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:38.130
<v Speaker 1>I believe you.

0:39:38.300 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 4>And I was just, but I'm also like, that's, but

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 4>is that what an alien shit looks like? That shit

0:39:42.340 --> 0:39:42.870
<v Speaker 4>might just be like a.

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Like a translucent- A drone and some shit.

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.420
<v Speaker 4>Or a translucent blob thing that moves through space and time.

0:39:48.660 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:49.700
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck?

0:39:49.980 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 2>But I know I was like, I'm going in the

0:39:51.380 --> 0:39:52.620
<v Speaker 2>house because I don't know what.

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.799
<v Speaker 1>The fuck that is. I would ask you to stand

0:39:54.820 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>through shit. I feel like you probably have had one.

0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:00.250
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but see, I think my shit is not shit

0:40:00.290 --> 0:40:01.930
<v Speaker 6>I see in the clouds and shit. I feel like

0:40:02.010 --> 0:40:07.210
<v Speaker 6>I done seen them niggas on 34th Street and just.

0:40:06.969 --> 0:40:08.790
<v Speaker 1>Doing- Which avenue? Which avenue? That's important.

0:40:09.650 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 6>By where Macy's in. I feel like it's like the

0:40:12.860 --> 0:40:13.859
<v Speaker 6>alien hub over there.

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Did it look like a humanoid type thing?

0:40:16.540 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Nah, like men in black shit.

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:18.859
<v Speaker 2>What did it look like, though?

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>It just looked weird. It's just like you're seeing me

0:40:20.780 --> 0:40:21.700
<v Speaker 1>like alien.

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:22.380
<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay.

0:40:22.540 --> 0:40:23.460
<v Speaker 1>If we people watch.

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:26.360
<v Speaker 3>If you watch enough people, you will find an alien

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:26.739
<v Speaker 3>amongst us.

0:40:26.739 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 1>I will tell you. I'll be like, I'm an alien

0:40:28.380 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>right there. Okay. I'm fascinated by this, actually.

0:40:30.940 --> 0:40:33.170
<v Speaker 2>There is people that don't... You're not wrong. Because there

0:40:33.210 --> 0:40:35.509
<v Speaker 2>are people that sometimes it's like you don't move like

0:40:35.570 --> 0:40:36.350
<v Speaker 2>a human. You don't fit.

0:40:36.370 --> 0:40:37.009
<v Speaker 6>Dark auras.

0:40:37.030 --> 0:40:37.310
<v Speaker 1>Dark auras.

0:40:37.969 --> 0:40:39.870
<v Speaker 2>Or just the way they move their bodies. It's like,

0:40:39.930 --> 0:40:41.190
<v Speaker 2>have you ever been in a body?

0:40:42.530 --> 0:40:43.490
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that's fentanyl.

0:40:43.590 --> 0:40:45.290
<v Speaker 2>Why you do it like that?

0:40:45.830 --> 0:40:49.390
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's drugs, which they can be on. Well, no,

0:40:49.530 --> 0:40:50.489
<v Speaker 1>I understand.

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.460
<v Speaker 3>You know, I start to get into your territory of

0:40:53.500 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 3>thinking whenever I'm in the financial district or midtown east

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.950
<v Speaker 3>where it's just like, Okay, so everybody is just cool

0:41:02.030 --> 0:41:06.280
<v Speaker 3>with like a short, like a long sleeve Oxford shirt

0:41:06.620 --> 0:41:07.620
<v Speaker 3>with the Patagonia.

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:09.439
<v Speaker 1>That's everybody. Yeah, that's the kids.

0:41:09.460 --> 0:41:12.460
<v Speaker 3>Y'all all kind of just exist and like thrive in

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:16.339
<v Speaker 3>that uniform. That doesn't seem all the way non-alien to me.

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.549
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

0:41:18.890 --> 0:41:19.180
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:41:19.410 --> 0:41:21.450
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this, it was, I just want to get

0:41:21.469 --> 0:41:23.290
<v Speaker 2>this date right. It was June 24th.

0:41:23.390 --> 0:41:23.830
<v Speaker 1>June 24th.

0:41:23.870 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 2>That the U.S.

0:41:24.469 --> 0:41:29.190
<v Speaker 4>Air Force formally dismissed long-term claims of the existence of aliens.

0:41:29.590 --> 0:41:29.710
<v Speaker 5>Hmm.

0:41:30.270 --> 0:41:31.290
<v Speaker 2>So that was like a formal.

0:41:31.570 --> 0:41:33.990
<v Speaker 1>That's how long it took them to dismiss them.

0:41:34.310 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Say no, absolutely not. The whole time knowing, absolutely. Absolutely,

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:40.760
<v Speaker 2>for sure.

0:41:40.780 --> 0:41:43.860
<v Speaker 4>I'm just waiting for the pop-out. Like for them to

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 4>just get tired of the shenanigans.

0:41:45.620 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I think the pop-out is happening already. What do you

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.280
<v Speaker 1>think the demeanor is?

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 3>How do you think we're being greeted by the aliens

0:41:54.100 --> 0:41:54.660
<v Speaker 3>in your mind?

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:55.940
<v Speaker 1>What do you think their impression is?

0:41:56.060 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 6>I mean, in my mind, like, you know, I think

0:42:00.739 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 6>they already amongst us. I think it's... I'm not a

0:42:04.700 --> 0:42:07.140
<v Speaker 6>conspiracy theorist.

0:42:07.500 --> 0:42:10.260
<v Speaker 1>That would be okay to be. And I believe shit.

0:42:11.100 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 6>Certain things, I just believe. Like, you just can't... I

0:42:13.380 --> 0:42:17.950
<v Speaker 6>just believe it exists. But on some alien shit, I

0:42:18.090 --> 0:42:18.950
<v Speaker 6>feel like.

0:42:21.010 --> 0:42:21.890
<v Speaker 1>We're all creators.

0:42:22.290 --> 0:42:24.710
<v Speaker 6>And, you know, sometimes we may have some type of

0:42:24.790 --> 0:42:27.910
<v Speaker 6>insight where somebody not normal might be like, that's some

0:42:27.969 --> 0:42:28.549
<v Speaker 6>alien shit.

0:42:28.630 --> 0:42:28.990
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:42:29.290 --> 0:42:29.509
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:42:30.860 --> 0:42:35.700
<v Speaker 6>Now, it's some of us that are like, maybe I'll

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:38.460
<v Speaker 6>just give them credit to say you're really, really good

0:42:38.500 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 6>at what you do.

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:43.219
<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm. You might got a little alien in you.

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:44.419
<v Speaker 4>Oh!

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:46.810
<v Speaker 1>So both things can exist at the same time.

0:42:46.850 --> 0:42:50.049
<v Speaker 2>Because they're so advanced. Mm.

0:42:51.110 --> 0:42:51.890
<v Speaker 1>It has to.

0:42:52.790 --> 0:42:55.210
<v Speaker 6>This world is too big for it to not... If

0:42:55.250 --> 0:42:58.090
<v Speaker 6>you could think it, if they made a movie about it,

0:42:59.020 --> 0:43:01.320
<v Speaker 6>I feel like they telling you what's happening.

0:43:01.620 --> 0:43:04.700
<v Speaker 1>They did, it's called Set It Off. It's called Men

0:43:04.739 --> 0:43:07.940
<v Speaker 1>in Black. Okay, up for debate.

0:43:09.620 --> 0:43:14.009
<v Speaker 6>But, you know, I feel like in some type of realm,

0:43:14.050 --> 0:43:15.280
<v Speaker 6>these things exist.

0:43:15.300 --> 0:43:17.170
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. And it's for you to figure it out.

0:43:17.250 --> 0:43:20.730
<v Speaker 4>I think, like, on a base level, like, and not

0:43:20.750 --> 0:43:22.150
<v Speaker 4>that we haven't heard this before, but it's just like.

0:43:23.700 --> 0:43:25.609
<v Speaker 2>Why would we be the only living.

0:43:25.350 --> 0:43:28.450
<v Speaker 4>Thing in the universe when we don't even understand the

0:43:28.469 --> 0:43:31.290
<v Speaker 4>vastness of the universe? It's just a very arrogant idea

0:43:31.310 --> 0:43:35.110
<v Speaker 4>to think nothing else exists out there. It's like something,

0:43:35.170 --> 0:43:37.819
<v Speaker 4>even if it's just an organism that we don't understand,

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 4>there's alien things out in the world.

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Out in the universe. Now, that was my next thing.

0:43:44.940 --> 0:43:47.140
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe they're up there. I believe they're down there.

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:47.359
<v Speaker 5>Underwater?

0:43:47.380 --> 0:43:47.580
<v Speaker 4>Underwater.

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, those things are definitely- Those things are down there.

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:50.259
<v Speaker 1>1,000%.

0:43:50.260 --> 0:43:51.420
<v Speaker 6>There's weird stuff down there.

0:43:51.460 --> 0:43:53.260
<v Speaker 1>I believe in mermaids and all of that shit.

0:43:53.390 --> 0:43:54.169
<v Speaker 2>You believe in mermaids?

0:43:54.290 --> 0:43:56.730
<v Speaker 1>I do. Ooh. All right.

0:43:56.850 --> 0:43:58.430
<v Speaker 2>We're getting a little Disney with this shit.

0:43:58.590 --> 0:43:59.830
<v Speaker 1>I believe in all that shit.

0:43:59.989 --> 0:44:00.649
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:44:01.150 --> 0:44:05.169
<v Speaker 6>You know, my mom is Guyanese. My dad was Guyanese, too.

0:44:05.210 --> 0:44:08.370
<v Speaker 6>But my mom, she just doesn't lie.

0:44:08.910 --> 0:44:10.180
<v Speaker 1>She has no reason to lie to me.

0:44:10.390 --> 0:44:11.090
<v Speaker 2>She's seen a mermaid?

0:44:11.270 --> 0:44:11.910
<v Speaker 1>She's seen a mermaid.

0:44:11.969 --> 0:44:12.330
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah?

0:44:13.270 --> 0:44:16.110
<v Speaker 6>In Guyana by the trenches, she explained it to me.

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:18.880
<v Speaker 2>That should be my stomach turn. I don't ever want

0:44:18.900 --> 0:44:20.399
<v Speaker 2>to see no half-fish, half-person, nothing.

0:44:20.420 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 6>But it wasn't half. It wasn't one of those. It

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:26.780
<v Speaker 6>was like a person. And after she talked to her.

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:31.020
<v Speaker 3>And did all her little mermaid shit, hair cascading, she

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:33.140
<v Speaker 3>flew right, she went right back into the water.

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>And my mom, she just left. That was it. It

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:38.980
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like, oh, I'm swimming back to wherever you're going.

0:44:39.020 --> 0:44:40.299
<v Speaker 2>What did the mermaid come to tell her?

0:44:41.090 --> 0:44:41.390
<v Speaker 5>Nothing.

0:44:41.469 --> 0:44:43.790
<v Speaker 1>It was just, she was just like, hey girl. Look,

0:44:43.810 --> 0:44:46.350
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, you know. How you doing? You look

0:44:46.370 --> 0:44:46.670
<v Speaker 1>really nice.

0:44:46.710 --> 0:44:47.489
<v Speaker 2>Like a straight up.

0:44:47.510 --> 0:44:48.140
<v Speaker 1>You like my hair?

0:44:48.180 --> 0:44:51.180
<v Speaker 2>Like a straight up Ariel. Like a straight up, I'm

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:51.859
<v Speaker 2>just tapping in.

0:44:51.900 --> 0:44:53.580
<v Speaker 6>I really want to call my mom right now to

0:44:53.620 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 6>tell you the story.

0:44:54.739 --> 0:44:55.739
<v Speaker 1>She was just like, hey girl.

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:57.620
<v Speaker 6>But I promise you, like, I believe it.

0:44:57.660 --> 0:45:02.210
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? That is so cute. I

0:45:02.230 --> 0:45:02.850
<v Speaker 1>really like that.

0:45:02.870 --> 0:45:04.689
<v Speaker 2>I really like to think there was, like, a real

0:45:04.790 --> 0:45:05.870
<v Speaker 2>Ariel out there.

0:45:05.670 --> 0:45:07.150
<v Speaker 4>Who just was like, I just want to talk to

0:45:07.190 --> 0:45:08.569
<v Speaker 4>a human and tap in real quick.

0:45:08.590 --> 0:45:09.989
<v Speaker 1>Well, there is that connection that we.

0:45:10.010 --> 0:45:11.460
<v Speaker 2>And then just go back on about my business.

0:45:11.820 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Splash. The movie Splash.

0:45:12.739 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 5>Uh-huh.

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, there is that... I don't think it's far-fetched.

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.540
<v Speaker 3>We've had that conversation on your HBO show where you

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 3>were discussing the link between the American government, United States government, aliens, and.

0:45:23.210 --> 0:45:24.150
<v Speaker 1>That's why we have Disney.

0:45:24.290 --> 0:45:24.989
<v Speaker 2>No, I wasn't.

0:45:25.010 --> 0:45:28.880
<v Speaker 3>You had a guest.

0:45:29.380 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't saying anything. You had a guest. You had

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:34.980
<v Speaker 1>a guest that I was present. I was in the scene.

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:37.620
<v Speaker 3>I'm just sitting there like, I don't know if this

0:45:37.660 --> 0:45:38.170
<v Speaker 3>is the take.

0:45:38.670 --> 0:45:40.350
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no. That was wild.

0:45:40.870 --> 0:45:42.469
<v Speaker 1>They were like, they put it in.

0:45:42.630 --> 0:45:44.629
<v Speaker 2>That's what Smoker said.

0:45:44.830 --> 0:45:47.109
<v Speaker 4>I just don't want to, I just want to let

0:45:47.150 --> 0:45:49.910
<v Speaker 4>my friend believe.

0:45:49.930 --> 0:45:50.750
<v Speaker 5>Just let me believe.

0:45:52.290 --> 0:45:52.770
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

0:45:52.790 --> 0:45:54.890
<v Speaker 2>And they put it in the movie so you can

0:45:54.910 --> 0:45:58.890
<v Speaker 2>get primed for it. So that when it happened to you,

0:45:59.050 --> 0:46:00.700
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you something.

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:02.380
<v Speaker 1>In the fingers with TP.

0:46:02.550 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 4>How many times you show me an alien, you can't

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:05.899
<v Speaker 4>prime me for that happening to.

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Me, bro. Hell no.

0:46:06.860 --> 0:46:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Hell no. That is terrifying.

0:46:10.730 --> 0:46:14.860
<v Speaker 3>You know, to me, this feels like a proper segue

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:20.530
<v Speaker 3>because I feel like nobody was more curious about who's

0:46:20.550 --> 0:46:22.469
<v Speaker 3>an alien in the year 1996 than Mike Tyson.

0:46:26.130 --> 0:46:28.819
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So much so that he took a bite out

0:46:28.860 --> 0:46:31.300
<v Speaker 1>of Evander Holyfield. This is my theory.

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:32.900
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say something.

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:34.900
<v Speaker 1>He took a bite out of Evander Holyfield's ear to

0:46:35.060 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 1>see if he was in fact an alien.

0:46:36.420 --> 0:46:37.260
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say something.

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:38.140
<v Speaker 1>Mic drop.

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:43.270
<v Speaker 2>That is a terrible transition. That was awful.

0:46:43.290 --> 0:46:47.009
<v Speaker 3>I think they're going to disagree with you.

0:46:47.410 --> 0:46:48.969
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to disagree with you.

0:46:48.989 --> 0:46:51.489
<v Speaker 4>You really be working these transitions. And a lot of

0:46:51.510 --> 0:46:53.810
<v Speaker 4>times I'll be like, this ain't one, but you got away.

0:46:54.550 --> 0:46:55.810
<v Speaker 4>This was fucking bad.

0:46:55.870 --> 0:46:56.650
<v Speaker 1>I think this shit rocks.

0:46:56.690 --> 0:46:57.690
<v Speaker 2>This was bad.

0:46:57.750 --> 0:46:58.670
<v Speaker 1>We have to disagree.

0:46:58.690 --> 0:46:59.670
<v Speaker 2>This was bad.

0:46:59.770 --> 0:47:01.089
<v Speaker 1>They're going to see that.

0:47:01.190 --> 0:47:02.830
<v Speaker 3>You're going to be wrong about that.

0:47:02.850 --> 0:47:05.300
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you. Was that 96 or 97? 97.

0:47:05.300 --> 0:47:05.500
<v Speaker 5>97.

0:47:05.500 --> 0:47:07.759
<v Speaker 1>This is the year. I'm sorry.

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:07.820
<v Speaker 3>97.

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:11.540
<v Speaker 4>97 is the year that Mike Tyson took a chunk

0:47:11.580 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 4>out of. It's also the year that Marv Albert took

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:15.020
<v Speaker 4>a chunk out of that lady's back.

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:17.100
<v Speaker 2>What was that with biting and shit? There was a

0:47:17.100 --> 0:47:18.850
<v Speaker 2>lot of biting. It was a biting ass year.

0:47:18.910 --> 0:47:19.529
<v Speaker 1>Very biting year.

0:47:21.290 --> 0:47:24.750
<v Speaker 2>I remember the Marv Albert story. I was a kid,

0:47:24.790 --> 0:47:25.150
<v Speaker 2>of course.

0:47:25.190 --> 0:47:28.210
<v Speaker 4>So it was like, I feel like it was the first,

0:47:28.690 --> 0:47:31.350
<v Speaker 4>and maybe because I'm not old enough, it feels, because

0:47:31.370 --> 0:47:33.790
<v Speaker 4>Rick James was like a freak, but this feels like

0:47:33.830 --> 0:47:35.340
<v Speaker 4>the first freaky scandal.

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:36.280
<v Speaker 5>Mm-hmm.

0:47:36.380 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Where it was like, whoa, he nasty, he weird.

0:47:40.100 --> 0:47:44.020
<v Speaker 6>Was Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky before or after this? Because

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.240
<v Speaker 6>that was like the first freaky scandal that I remember.

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:46.580
<v Speaker 1>Me too.

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 2>That wasn't freaky, though. That was like a dick suck.

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:50.839
<v Speaker 2>Mark Albert was like.

0:47:50.900 --> 0:47:53.259
<v Speaker 1>Bit a bitch back.

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:54.780
<v Speaker 2>It was like he was getting wild.

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:56.340
<v Speaker 5>He was.

0:47:56.420 --> 0:47:59.450
<v Speaker 4>He bit her on the back. He wanted to have

0:47:59.469 --> 0:48:00.190
<v Speaker 4>a three-way.

0:48:00.530 --> 0:48:01.310
<v Speaker 2>She refused.

0:48:01.550 --> 0:48:03.450
<v Speaker 1>Look at where we are now, though. Because those are

0:48:03.469 --> 0:48:06.010
<v Speaker 1>two things that's just like, what? What are you actually

0:48:06.030 --> 0:48:07.710
<v Speaker 1>mad about? How did that complaint go?

0:48:07.730 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 3>This was before biting was accepted as a thing of foreplay.

0:48:12.660 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Because I just feel like by... You reading that, I'm like,

0:48:16.060 --> 0:48:18.020
<v Speaker 1>what exactly? I mean, if it was even so real,

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:18.219
<v Speaker 1>then sure.

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:20.100
<v Speaker 2>I think she said, no, I don't want to have

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:20.439
<v Speaker 2>a thing.

0:48:20.460 --> 0:48:23.779
<v Speaker 1>So Penny bit her back. That's different.

0:48:23.860 --> 0:48:25.250
<v Speaker 2>As a punishment.

0:48:25.330 --> 0:48:28.590
<v Speaker 1>Come on. Let me take a nod to you real quick.

0:48:29.090 --> 0:48:32.710
<v Speaker 4>But I remember that being like, going around like, he's freaky,

0:48:32.850 --> 0:48:33.129
<v Speaker 4>you know?

0:48:33.350 --> 0:48:35.290
<v Speaker 1>Sam, were you a biter as a kid? I can

0:48:35.330 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 1>see you being a biter.

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:36.450
<v Speaker 5>No.

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even like confrontation. Oh, word. I would, like,

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 2>use my words and make people want to hit me.

0:48:43.060 --> 0:48:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Want to bite you.

0:48:44.860 --> 0:48:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Stuff is the same. Stuff is pretty much the same.

0:48:47.500 --> 0:48:50.359
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't like all that. I thought that was weird.

0:48:50.980 --> 0:48:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:54.570
<v Speaker 4>My cousin, I had a little cousin, my cousin Madonna,

0:48:54.969 --> 0:48:57.259
<v Speaker 4>she used to bite me. She was always just hostile

0:48:57.300 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 4>towards me when I was little. Like, she really didn't

0:48:59.300 --> 0:49:01.299
<v Speaker 4>like me. We're great now, but she did not like

0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 4>me as a child. And she used to bite me.

0:49:03.860 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 4>And I used to go to my aunt and I'd

0:49:05.460 --> 0:49:07.900
<v Speaker 4>be like, she bit me again. And my aunt would

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:08.940
<v Speaker 4>be like, you need to hit her back.

0:49:08.980 --> 0:49:10.420
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, no. Yes, you do. You need

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:12.890
<v Speaker 2>to get her to stop biting people. I'm like, what?

0:49:13.050 --> 0:49:14.450
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's not how you fix it.

0:49:14.510 --> 0:49:15.489
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, why is she biting people?

0:49:15.510 --> 0:49:17.230
<v Speaker 1>Hitting her back won't fix this.

0:49:17.270 --> 0:49:19.890
<v Speaker 2>That is the question. But I think what my aunt

0:49:19.910 --> 0:49:22.410
<v Speaker 2>was saying is like until I get that part under control.

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Black families black families really have sometimes you know black

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 3>families especially back then really didn't know how to have

0:49:28.340 --> 0:49:30.620
<v Speaker 3>the language to address certain issues as opposed to just

0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:33.020
<v Speaker 3>being like you need to hit her back.

0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't solve the fact that he is over here

0:49:34.180 --> 0:49:34.980
<v Speaker 1>still bothering me.

0:49:36.300 --> 0:49:41.890
<v Speaker 4>Is Marv Albert in the time of Diddy the time of.

0:49:42.010 --> 0:49:44.490
<v Speaker 1>Epstein they all exist in the same.

0:49:44.170 --> 0:49:46.930
<v Speaker 2>Time is this hitting us no I'm saying now post

0:49:47.050 --> 0:49:47.710
<v Speaker 2>like all.

0:49:47.590 --> 0:49:49.390
<v Speaker 1>This stuff coming up very moderate.

0:49:49.430 --> 0:49:53.150
<v Speaker 2>Is this hitting us? Are we like, whoa to this?

0:49:53.290 --> 0:49:54.270
<v Speaker 1>They should reverse it.

0:49:54.930 --> 0:49:55.029
<v Speaker 4>Oh.

0:49:55.050 --> 0:49:59.469
<v Speaker 1>I ain't got much. Mav, Mav, nibbled on the back

0:49:59.510 --> 0:49:59.930
<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

0:49:59.969 --> 0:50:02.930
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I.

0:50:02.950 --> 0:50:04.969
<v Speaker 6>It ain't as worse as all this fucking... I think

0:50:04.989 --> 0:50:05.230
<v Speaker 6>if we.

0:50:05.210 --> 0:50:07.450
<v Speaker 2>Looked at this case today, we might have some.

0:50:07.530 --> 0:50:09.330
<v Speaker 1>Reverse it. We owe Mav an apology.

0:50:09.390 --> 0:50:10.529
<v Speaker 2>Also, I have questions.

0:50:10.650 --> 0:50:11.150
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Mav.

0:50:11.170 --> 0:50:15.010
<v Speaker 4>He asked for the three-way. Were the three-way people right

0:50:15.030 --> 0:50:17.760
<v Speaker 4>there and ready and available? And she was like, no.

0:50:17.860 --> 0:50:20.339
<v Speaker 4>Or was he like, One day, is this something we

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:20.819
<v Speaker 4>could do?

0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:23.600
<v Speaker 6>Sound like a money grab to me. It sound like,

0:50:23.620 --> 0:50:25.320
<v Speaker 6>because Marv ain't forced the three-way.

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:27.739
<v Speaker 2>No, no, she sent him to the three-way and he

0:50:27.780 --> 0:50:28.489
<v Speaker 2>was like that.

0:50:28.630 --> 0:50:30.509
<v Speaker 3>He had just announced, he had just finished calling a

0:50:30.530 --> 0:50:32.670
<v Speaker 3>game between the Knicks and the Bullets at the time.

0:50:33.170 --> 0:50:33.989
<v Speaker 1>It was the same night.

0:50:34.150 --> 0:50:34.569
<v Speaker 6>Oh, damn.

0:50:34.610 --> 0:50:36.410
<v Speaker 1>Which makes me wonder. Was it in Washington or New York?

0:50:36.430 --> 0:50:37.750
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. I don't know.

0:50:37.870 --> 0:50:40.029
<v Speaker 3>I was wondering who won and who lost and if

0:50:40.070 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 3>that had anything to do with his, you know, like.

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:45.319
<v Speaker 6>Well, Marv used to hate on the Knicks being a

0:50:45.340 --> 0:50:47.700
<v Speaker 6>Knicks announcer, so it really didn't fucking matter.

0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:49.320
<v Speaker 1>His attitude.

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:51.880
<v Speaker 2>How he was affected by it. Might have had an effect.

0:50:51.900 --> 0:50:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Did he have money on the game?

0:50:53.540 --> 0:50:57.290
<v Speaker 4>And that might be where the bite really came from.

0:50:57.989 --> 0:50:58.509
<v Speaker 2>I hear you.

0:50:58.670 --> 0:50:58.930
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:50:59.070 --> 0:51:00.810
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that it matters.

0:51:00.890 --> 0:51:02.770
<v Speaker 3>It was dramatic for the NBA as well, too, in

0:51:02.810 --> 0:51:05.250
<v Speaker 3>that same year, because it was the same year that

0:51:05.290 --> 0:51:07.770
<v Speaker 3>Latrell Sprewell choked P.J.

0:51:07.790 --> 0:51:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Carlos. It was a lot of choking and biting. Yeah. Chokey, bitey.

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:13.390
<v Speaker 1>It was a chokey and bitey situation.

0:51:14.150 --> 0:51:17.310
<v Speaker 3>But Sam and I were discussing how that is a

0:51:17.330 --> 0:51:23.090
<v Speaker 3>situation where, unlike Marv Alberts, the consequence of one's actions

0:51:23.150 --> 0:51:24.980
<v Speaker 3>ended up affecting the person who was the victim.

0:51:25.500 --> 0:51:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I just remember him not being well-liked.

0:51:29.460 --> 0:51:30.480
<v Speaker 2>So people were kind of like.

0:51:30.500 --> 0:51:31.839
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, PJ Carlos Moore was a dickhead.

0:51:31.860 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Because this was before he went to the Knicks.

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:33.759
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:51:33.820 --> 0:51:36.510
<v Speaker 1>So this, for us, it was a blessing. Right?

0:51:36.550 --> 0:51:36.750
<v Speaker 4>So....

0:51:38.739 --> 0:51:41.240
<v Speaker 1>When he got choked, it was a punchline.

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:45.930
<v Speaker 6>And then after Sprewell got off of his year of

0:51:46.010 --> 0:51:49.770
<v Speaker 6>probation or suspension or whatever that was, the Knicks were

0:51:49.830 --> 0:51:51.950
<v Speaker 6>able to sign him. So that was a big deal

0:51:52.650 --> 0:51:56.270
<v Speaker 6>for us over in New York to have Latrell Sprewell.

0:51:56.250 --> 0:51:59.169
<v Speaker 1>In his prime on the Knicks.

0:51:59.710 --> 0:52:02.529
<v Speaker 6>Having that edgy bad boy era to come play with

0:52:02.650 --> 0:52:05.260
<v Speaker 6>Oakley and the boys, I felt like.

0:52:05.910 --> 0:52:07.890
<v Speaker 2>That was like, ooh, we got something.

0:52:07.930 --> 0:52:08.430
<v Speaker 1>And he could ball.

0:52:08.530 --> 0:52:09.140
<v Speaker 2>And he could ball.

0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:10.960
<v Speaker 1>For sure. Took us to the finals.

0:52:11.100 --> 0:52:14.180
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, look at you guys. Finally back in

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 2>the conversation for real.

0:52:30.550 --> 0:52:33.129
<v Speaker 6>We haven't spoken all year basketball.

0:52:33.150 --> 0:52:35.550
<v Speaker 2>Finally back in the conversation for real.

0:52:35.570 --> 0:52:35.870
<v Speaker 6>Yes.

0:52:36.030 --> 0:52:37.910
<v Speaker 3>I think this is really the year of people not

0:52:37.950 --> 0:52:40.109
<v Speaker 3>really having conversations about their teams right now.

0:52:40.310 --> 0:52:42.089
<v Speaker 1>I think so. Hold on. Conversation.

0:52:42.370 --> 0:52:47.180
<v Speaker 6>Uh-oh. Because we haven't talked basketball all year.

0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:49.340
<v Speaker 1>This is pent up. We haven't.

0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 6>No, I literally just remember because she would fucking tear

0:52:54.180 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 6>me apart.

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the same text with her. From these fucking Celtics.

0:52:57.100 --> 0:52:57.279
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Destroying us. She talks her shit. She gets in them

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:00.840
<v Speaker 1>text messages.

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:02.419
<v Speaker 6>Last year, I had a ball.

0:53:02.980 --> 0:53:03.980
<v Speaker 1>I had a ball. I know.

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:07.510
<v Speaker 6>This year, I was looking forward to the rematch. Like, yeah,

0:53:07.530 --> 0:53:09.330
<v Speaker 6>we're going to hit some games. Because we went to

0:53:09.350 --> 0:53:12.410
<v Speaker 6>a Nick versus Celtics game last year, too. But the

0:53:12.450 --> 0:53:14.970
<v Speaker 6>Celtics didn't make it past Philly.

0:53:15.450 --> 0:53:17.190
<v Speaker 1>I've been busy. I've been busy. Yeah, you've been busy,

0:53:17.250 --> 0:53:17.770
<v Speaker 1>so that's good.

0:53:17.790 --> 0:53:18.910
<v Speaker 2>I've been busy.

0:53:18.969 --> 0:53:20.779
<v Speaker 1>You've been busy. There's a lot going on in my life.

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:20.900
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:53:21.300 --> 0:53:24.240
<v Speaker 1>They needed you. They needed you.

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:26.739
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we weren't even supposed to be here.

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:53:27.739 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 1>She don't want to talk about that shit. This is

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:30.740
<v Speaker 1>the attitude.

0:53:30.780 --> 0:53:32.540
<v Speaker 3>You don't want to talk about that shit.

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 1>We weren't supposed to be here.

0:53:33.739 --> 0:53:34.700
<v Speaker 6>Jason Tatum was hurt.

0:53:34.820 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't even supposed to come back. Jason Tatum was hurt.

0:53:37.260 --> 0:53:38.719
<v Speaker 1>He was not supposed to come back. That was too

0:53:38.739 --> 0:53:39.160
<v Speaker 1>damn fair.

0:53:39.180 --> 0:53:41.319
<v Speaker 2>We were not even supposed to be here. We weren't

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:42.810
<v Speaker 2>even in this conversation.

0:53:43.390 --> 0:53:46.969
<v Speaker 1>Well, Brad Stevens still won executive award. It is what

0:53:46.989 --> 0:53:47.150
<v Speaker 1>it is.

0:53:47.210 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 3>I've been being quiet because I'm like, At any moment,

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:52.859
<v Speaker 3>the Pistons can disappoint me, which they did last week.

0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Shut up.

0:53:53.980 --> 0:53:55.799
<v Speaker 3>So, like, that's why I've been shutting the fuck up

0:53:56.140 --> 0:53:58.140
<v Speaker 3>the whole playoffs. Because I'm like, I'm not going to

0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 3>get too crazy. The Pistons' Instagram went in, like, the

0:54:03.219 --> 0:54:06.410
<v Speaker 3>first game we won, they went and, like, posted a

0:54:07.070 --> 0:54:10.810
<v Speaker 3>Google map from, like, directions from the Little Caesars Arena back.

0:54:10.830 --> 0:54:14.489
<v Speaker 1>To the Garden? No, to Ohio. Not, for Cleveland. We

0:54:14.510 --> 0:54:16.750
<v Speaker 1>were playing Cleveland. And I'm sitting up there like... I

0:54:16.770 --> 0:54:19.410
<v Speaker 1>thought y'all was bypassing him. Y'all are doing too damn much.

0:54:19.670 --> 0:54:21.509
<v Speaker 1>And now look at us. Y'all lost in front of

0:54:21.590 --> 0:54:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Eminem at 50 Cent, man. Y'all did.

0:54:24.500 --> 0:54:25.460
<v Speaker 2>That's bad.

0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 1>And Sean. Sean was there, too. Damn. And he's their ambassador. Like,

0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:31.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm like... If they asked me, I wouldn't. I'm like, no.

0:54:31.820 --> 0:54:33.779
<v Speaker 1>Y'all gonna have to show me something. Because I'm like.

0:54:34.260 --> 0:54:39.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm so used to this team setting me up for failure, ultimately.

0:54:39.020 --> 0:54:40.680
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just waiting. Well, I'm a Knicks fan. We

0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 1>love you. I'm a Knicks fan. That's a Knicks fan.

0:54:42.700 --> 0:54:45.720
<v Speaker 6>So we're... No, when you said setting up for failure,

0:54:46.489 --> 0:54:47.230
<v Speaker 6>I said I'm a Knicks fan.

0:54:47.330 --> 0:54:51.810
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But this year, I hope my fortune changes. There's hope. Yes, likewise.

0:54:51.870 --> 0:54:54.040
<v Speaker 2>It's so cute that you guys finally get to do this.

0:54:55.150 --> 0:54:57.290
<v Speaker 1>She's so left out right now. But I'm doing it

0:54:57.330 --> 0:54:59.270
<v Speaker 1>on purpose. See how she got activated?

0:54:59.430 --> 0:55:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I got to rub it in a little.

0:55:00.660 --> 0:55:00.890
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

0:55:00.950 --> 0:55:01.720
<v Speaker 1>I think it's cute.

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:02.219
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah.

0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Because when I got here, I kind of like, I've

0:55:04.180 --> 0:55:06.779
<v Speaker 3>been here like 13 years. So like I adopted, because

0:55:06.820 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 3>especially over these past decades, the pisses haven't really been

0:55:09.040 --> 0:55:09.500
<v Speaker 3>giving me anything.

0:55:09.540 --> 0:55:11.700
<v Speaker 1>But you've seen a championship in your lifetime. I did

0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:13.510
<v Speaker 1>see that. I did see my piss.

0:55:13.550 --> 0:55:16.930
<v Speaker 2>What a thing to say. It's so funny.

0:55:16.950 --> 0:55:19.770
<v Speaker 1>And this is why I've been turning my back to her.

0:55:19.810 --> 0:55:20.710
<v Speaker 1>I can't even look at her.

0:55:20.730 --> 0:55:22.430
<v Speaker 3>I can't even look at her because I know she's

0:55:22.469 --> 0:55:22.810
<v Speaker 3>back here.

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Popping her shit.

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:32.960
<v Speaker 3>With her shady ass what else you got going.

0:55:32.780 --> 0:55:35.140
<v Speaker 4>On Alex you wanted to you wanted to talk Ellen

0:55:35.180 --> 0:55:37.360
<v Speaker 4>coming out of the closet so.

0:55:36.890 --> 0:55:39.739
<v Speaker 6>I think in 97 that happened did you watch did

0:55:39.780 --> 0:55:40.170
<v Speaker 6>you watch.

0:55:40.050 --> 0:55:41.870
<v Speaker 2>No gay shit is hitting smokes right now.

0:55:41.770 --> 0:55:44.870
<v Speaker 3>In 97 I didn't want you to know that wait

0:55:44.890 --> 0:55:47.790
<v Speaker 3>a minute and no gay shit coming across my man's

0:55:48.050 --> 0:55:50.630
<v Speaker 3>feet in 97 when you turned up Kurt Loder you

0:55:50.670 --> 0:55:53.629
<v Speaker 3>weren't turning on the Ellen show smoke no I didn't

0:55:53.690 --> 0:55:58.670
<v Speaker 3>even know Ellen was out in 97. What type of

0:55:58.690 --> 0:56:00.969
<v Speaker 3>television was you watching in 97?

0:56:00.969 --> 0:56:03.410
<v Speaker 1>What was your, like, go-to? I was a.

0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 6>All right, so it's a little weird. So I was

0:56:07.180 --> 0:56:08.319
<v Speaker 6>a Saved by the Bell guy.

0:56:08.460 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Love Saved by the Bell.

0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:14.550
<v Speaker 6>The regular... The Miss Bliss Saved by the Bell.

0:56:14.570 --> 0:56:18.270
<v Speaker 1>Which is when... That's the original Saved by the Bell, right?

0:56:18.290 --> 0:56:18.450
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:56:18.940 --> 0:56:21.620
<v Speaker 6>And then to the max Saved by the Bell, the

0:56:21.660 --> 0:56:23.570
<v Speaker 6>traditional Saved by the Bell, we know.

0:56:23.330 --> 0:56:25.170
<v Speaker 3>To Saved by the Bell a college is. Was there

0:56:25.190 --> 0:56:26.630
<v Speaker 3>a time when you fell in love with Saved by

0:56:26.650 --> 0:56:26.850
<v Speaker 3>the Bell?

0:56:26.870 --> 0:56:28.370
<v Speaker 1>Did you like the college is? Did you like the

0:56:28.410 --> 0:56:28.800
<v Speaker 1>college is?

0:56:28.810 --> 0:56:29.569
<v Speaker 2>Oh, come on, Smoke.

0:56:29.590 --> 0:56:31.049
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember loving the college is.

0:56:31.090 --> 0:56:32.120
<v Speaker 6>Come on, Smoke.

0:56:32.260 --> 0:56:35.970
<v Speaker 1>I was connected to the story of Zach- and Kelly. Right.

0:56:36.170 --> 0:56:38.450
<v Speaker 1>Who was it? So I just, you know, that was my.

0:56:38.469 --> 0:56:39.910
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not going to college with these things.

0:56:39.930 --> 0:56:41.069
<v Speaker 1>But that was the white version. That's how I felt

0:56:41.090 --> 0:56:41.700
<v Speaker 1>about Degrassi.

0:56:41.739 --> 0:56:44.640
<v Speaker 6>That was the white version of the Cosby show for me.

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:44.919
<v Speaker 3>Really?

0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:45.219
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:56:45.300 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Not really.

0:56:46.820 --> 0:56:50.040
<v Speaker 6>Or when I say not the Cosby show, a different world.

0:56:50.140 --> 0:56:50.660
<v Speaker 1>Okay, sure.

0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:51.260
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.540
<v Speaker 3>We didn't go to high school with them, but like.

0:56:53.580 --> 0:56:54.970
<v Speaker 1>The college years, I'm talking about.

0:56:54.989 --> 0:56:57.170
<v Speaker 2>Right, the college years. And you did, you went through

0:56:57.230 --> 0:56:58.100
<v Speaker 2>Denise's life with her.

0:56:58.110 --> 0:56:58.830
<v Speaker 1>Denise's life with her, right.

0:56:58.850 --> 0:57:00.089
<v Speaker 2>So that's how you get to a different world. That's

0:57:00.110 --> 0:57:00.569
<v Speaker 2>how you got that.

0:57:00.590 --> 0:57:01.510
<v Speaker 1>You feel me? And then Dwayne.

0:57:01.570 --> 0:57:01.989
<v Speaker 6>She's your entry.

0:57:02.010 --> 0:57:04.570
<v Speaker 1>Dwayne Wayne and fucking....

0:57:06.370 --> 0:57:10.600
<v Speaker 6>Rhyme nah this girl you know what I'm talking about

0:57:11.580 --> 0:57:16.260
<v Speaker 6>um Whitley Whitley Gilbert that was like Kelly and.

0:57:16.180 --> 0:57:18.030
<v Speaker 2>Zach yeah Kelly and Zach for sure so you know

0:57:18.090 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 2>it's parallel for sure and like A.C. Slater was his

0:57:21.900 --> 0:57:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Ron Ron.

0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:23.560
<v Speaker 1>You feel what I'm saying?

0:57:23.580 --> 0:57:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I get the vibes. I just, it wasn't.

0:57:26.500 --> 0:57:27.780
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't hitting like the high school years.

0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:28.760
<v Speaker 2>It did not do anything for me.

0:57:28.900 --> 0:57:31.550
<v Speaker 4>And then after that, they went to the new class,

0:57:31.590 --> 0:57:32.870
<v Speaker 4>which fuck those kids.

0:57:32.910 --> 0:57:33.470
<v Speaker 1>The new class.

0:57:33.770 --> 0:57:34.550
<v Speaker 2>Fuck them.

0:57:34.590 --> 0:57:35.070
<v Speaker 6>Fuck those kids.

0:57:35.090 --> 0:57:36.970
<v Speaker 4>They burned down the Macs. That's when I was done

0:57:36.990 --> 0:57:37.930
<v Speaker 4>with those little fucks.

0:57:37.950 --> 0:57:39.550
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. They burned it down. How did y'all

0:57:39.570 --> 0:57:41.310
<v Speaker 1>let that happen? How did y'all let that happen?

0:57:41.330 --> 0:57:43.070
<v Speaker 2>How the fuck did you burn.

0:57:43.150 --> 0:57:44.970
<v Speaker 1>Down the Macs? I was like, folks.

0:57:45.110 --> 0:57:45.930
<v Speaker 2>Fuck these kids.

0:57:45.950 --> 0:57:48.070
<v Speaker 1>Y'all burnt down the central nervous system of this show.

0:57:48.090 --> 0:57:49.180
<v Speaker 1>The whole show exists here.

0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:51.240
<v Speaker 3>The whole show exists off of them being there. You're

0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 3>absolutely right about that.

0:57:52.100 --> 0:57:52.780
<v Speaker 1>That's burnt down.

0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:53.660
<v Speaker 2>Fuck you, little idiots.

0:57:54.060 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Martin was another thing, too. Sure.

0:57:55.580 --> 0:57:57.100
<v Speaker 3>I got to ask you, going back to Say It

0:57:57.120 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 3>By The Bell real quick, that since you were there

0:57:59.580 --> 0:58:03.140
<v Speaker 3>for all of those, how did you feel about the

0:58:03.380 --> 0:58:07.270
<v Speaker 3>one little moment we got where Zach and Lisa hooked up?

0:58:07.950 --> 0:58:08.590
<v Speaker 6>Hello.

0:58:08.850 --> 0:58:10.670
<v Speaker 1>You know, because they don't talk about that really in

0:58:10.690 --> 0:58:11.230
<v Speaker 1>the history book.

0:58:11.310 --> 0:58:12.990
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was fly.

0:58:13.790 --> 0:58:15.700
<v Speaker 6>I thought it was fly too, but then I was

0:58:15.740 --> 0:58:22.480
<v Speaker 6>just like, you a foul nigga. You foul. You got

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:25.770
<v Speaker 6>all the chicks on you. And you want to fuck

0:58:25.790 --> 0:58:27.370
<v Speaker 6>with the chick that's Screech-like.

0:58:27.790 --> 0:58:29.190
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but fuck Screech.

0:58:29.290 --> 0:58:30.790
<v Speaker 1>Screech was never going to get it.

0:58:30.830 --> 0:58:32.270
<v Speaker 2>He was never getting that.

0:58:32.350 --> 0:58:34.410
<v Speaker 1>He was never going to get it. Fuck Screech. Lisa, Lisa,

0:58:34.450 --> 0:58:36.850
<v Speaker 1>she might have gave him a sniff down the line.

0:58:36.890 --> 0:58:38.050
<v Speaker 6>You know what I mean?

0:58:38.230 --> 0:58:38.930
<v Speaker 1>Let him suck a titty.

0:58:38.950 --> 0:58:41.190
<v Speaker 2>He might have got a titty suck. He might have

0:58:41.210 --> 0:58:42.410
<v Speaker 2>Stephon Urcal'd her.

0:58:42.470 --> 0:58:43.230
<v Speaker 1>He had to, you feel me?

0:58:43.250 --> 0:58:45.290
<v Speaker 3>He had to cut that hair. He had to get

0:58:45.310 --> 0:58:47.180
<v Speaker 3>some contacts. He had to really clean it up.

0:58:47.190 --> 0:58:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember just... As black women at the time, as

0:58:50.890 --> 0:58:51.320
<v Speaker 2>black women.

0:58:51.340 --> 0:58:52.660
<v Speaker 1>When you was a straight girl.

0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:55.820
<v Speaker 4>When I was a straight girl, I remember Zach being,

0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:56.960
<v Speaker 4>at least it was hope for us all.

0:58:56.980 --> 0:58:58.640
<v Speaker 2>We were like, oh, he likes black bitches.

0:58:58.700 --> 0:59:00.860
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get my white king.

0:59:00.940 --> 0:59:02.860
<v Speaker 2>It's up.

0:59:02.890 --> 0:59:04.750
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. He's not supposed to.

0:59:04.790 --> 0:59:06.130
<v Speaker 2>He's the hot guy of the show.

0:59:06.150 --> 0:59:07.350
<v Speaker 1>He's not supposed to like black girls.

0:59:07.490 --> 0:59:11.390
<v Speaker 4>In this era, hot white guy like that, blonde, whatever,

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:14.560
<v Speaker 4>They're not touching the black girl. The black girl is

0:59:14.600 --> 0:59:18.680
<v Speaker 4>the outcast, the side friend. The lead never goes there.

0:59:18.780 --> 0:59:20.959
<v Speaker 2>And it was like him and Kelly Kapowski.

0:59:21.100 --> 0:59:23.480
<v Speaker 1>They had to grow up, too. They had to grow up.

0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:26.210
<v Speaker 1>It was like college years. For a whole long time, no.

0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:28.360
<v Speaker 1>I think they really dated in real life, though.

0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:29.180
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think so.

0:59:29.200 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 1>That does not surprise me.

0:59:30.480 --> 0:59:33.860
<v Speaker 4>And Lisa, she was fine. Everybody was like, she was

0:59:33.900 --> 0:59:36.700
<v Speaker 4>so cute. So when he finally did that, it was like, oh,

0:59:36.780 --> 0:59:38.040
<v Speaker 4>it's up.

0:59:38.420 --> 0:59:39.140
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't go to college.

0:59:39.180 --> 0:59:42.800
<v Speaker 4>Because even he was attracted to her. I'm talking about

0:59:42.820 --> 0:59:44.030
<v Speaker 4>when they were in high school, they had a.

0:59:44.030 --> 0:59:46.230
<v Speaker 1>Little chemistry thing.

0:59:46.010 --> 0:59:47.510
<v Speaker 2>That they would play with with them.

0:59:47.650 --> 0:59:50.230
<v Speaker 1>They never had a moment where they argued.

0:59:50.290 --> 0:59:51.710
<v Speaker 2>We could maybe.

0:59:52.390 --> 0:59:54.830
<v Speaker 3>There was no real tension ever between those two characters ever,

0:59:54.850 --> 0:59:57.250
<v Speaker 3>which made it easier for them to be like, one day,

0:59:58.070 --> 0:59:59.310
<v Speaker 3>she got titties now.

0:59:59.770 --> 1:00:04.410
<v Speaker 2>Zach walked so Justin Timberlake could fly. Hot take on it.

1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Good take. Okay. Good analogy. Yeah, I think Justin was

1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:10.730
<v Speaker 1>watching Saved by the Bell like, okay, I got it.

1:00:11.050 --> 1:00:12.210
<v Speaker 2>Because he was like.

1:00:12.550 --> 1:00:13.290
<v Speaker 1>He's the entry point.

1:00:13.330 --> 1:00:14.390
<v Speaker 2>He was the entry point.

1:00:14.430 --> 1:00:17.550
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I feel like the grassy was like my saving.

1:00:17.570 --> 1:00:20.800
<v Speaker 3>That's like... But like I said... Because you can't.

1:00:20.640 --> 1:00:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Say new kids on the block. They were too tough.

1:00:22.340 --> 1:00:22.860
<v Speaker 1>You get what I mean?

1:00:22.880 --> 1:00:23.680
<v Speaker 2>They were too rough.

1:00:23.700 --> 1:00:26.520
<v Speaker 6>What about my man from Step by Step that his

1:00:26.580 --> 1:00:27.640
<v Speaker 6>son is the singer dude.

1:00:27.700 --> 1:00:32.890
<v Speaker 1>My man. I was without you. Oh, Robin Thicke. Robin Thicke.

1:00:33.090 --> 1:00:33.370
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:00:33.510 --> 1:00:34.030
<v Speaker 1>Alan Thicke.

1:00:34.170 --> 1:00:34.870
<v Speaker 2>Alan Thicke.

1:00:34.930 --> 1:00:35.250
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:00:35.690 --> 1:00:36.810
<v Speaker 6>No. No.

1:00:36.970 --> 1:00:37.790
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't. No.

1:00:37.850 --> 1:00:38.190
<v Speaker 1>Sorry.

1:00:38.330 --> 1:00:41.770
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't tickling her little straight fantasies back then.

1:00:41.830 --> 1:00:42.150
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't.

1:00:42.170 --> 1:00:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That one. Maybe for like old ladies. Yeah, that was.

1:00:50.760 --> 1:00:54.070
<v Speaker 2>Going to be gross. Yeah, that'd be for old ladies.

1:00:54.090 --> 1:00:56.810
<v Speaker 2>The look back then, it was like beach blonde. It

1:00:56.850 --> 1:00:59.810
<v Speaker 2>was like Hollywood. It was like surfer boy. It was

1:00:59.890 --> 1:01:02.430
<v Speaker 2>like skater boy. Skater boy, yeah.

1:01:02.470 --> 1:01:05.270
<v Speaker 4>But not the dirty ones. The dirty, grungy ones hadn't

1:01:05.410 --> 1:01:06.130
<v Speaker 4>arisen yet.

1:01:06.170 --> 1:01:06.830
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, they wasn't yet.

1:01:06.850 --> 1:01:08.610
<v Speaker 2>So it was just still like hot, like LA.

1:01:08.680 --> 1:01:10.570
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Fred Durst wasn't here yet.

1:01:10.580 --> 1:01:13.040
<v Speaker 2>California boy type vibes.

1:01:13.100 --> 1:01:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Zach Morris. That was it.

1:01:14.420 --> 1:01:17.200
<v Speaker 2>He was the epitome of that then.

1:01:17.220 --> 1:01:21.150
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It was dead today. Oh, damn.

1:01:21.170 --> 1:01:21.750
<v Speaker 2>That's tough.

1:01:21.770 --> 1:01:22.610
<v Speaker 1>You have to know, I guess.

1:01:22.630 --> 1:01:25.090
<v Speaker 2>We really haven't had, we haven't had one like that.

1:01:25.110 --> 1:01:26.210
<v Speaker 1>Like a black, white dude?

1:01:26.230 --> 1:01:28.110
<v Speaker 6>Or just like someone who- Jack Harlow took the words

1:01:28.190 --> 1:01:28.550
<v Speaker 6>off my mouth.

1:01:28.590 --> 1:01:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Someone who takes that energy, though.

1:01:30.580 --> 1:01:32.180
<v Speaker 4>Like I'm saying, like, I don't think there's been a

1:01:32.280 --> 1:01:34.340
<v Speaker 4>hot throb teen boy.

1:01:34.980 --> 1:01:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Situation in a long time. Yeah.

1:01:38.280 --> 1:01:41.010
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? These little niggas is ugly.

1:01:41.150 --> 1:01:42.090
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say it.

1:01:42.560 --> 1:01:44.180
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about what a little girl's like.

1:01:44.200 --> 1:01:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Because they be doing too much.

1:01:45.340 --> 1:01:46.220
<v Speaker 1>They be looking all dirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Tattoos on their face.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because a lot of them want to be black now. Awesome. Immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to like, they hang out with nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>black people.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you trying to say about black people, Alex?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm saying, I'm saying, no, what I'm saying is now,

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<v Speaker 3>now that like young white boys have just automatically, they

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<v Speaker 3>kind of get shoved into like, like black culture becomes

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<v Speaker 3>the first thing that they consume. There's some white guy

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<v Speaker 3>at home, that's what the fuck I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>God damn it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no like, you know, like, oh, safe white guy

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<v Speaker 1>example that they look up to.

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<v Speaker 3>They look up to like, you know, Soulja Boy and like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and Drake and Kendrick and all the big

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<v Speaker 3>black rappers.

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<v Speaker 6>To look up to Soulja Boy is a little wild.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I like Soulja Boy. He had it for

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<v Speaker 6>a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>He had it for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to wake up tomorrow with soldiers in

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<v Speaker 3>his kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>Soldiers in his kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>Smoke.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck is a smoke, nigga?

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<v Speaker 1>Nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>Now this podcast is really off to the races.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I would love it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Make my fucking bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this show has got an entirely new audience. Oh, magic. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my God.

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<v Speaker 3>But these young white boys of the last, I would

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<v Speaker 3>say the last decade, have like, it's just, everything's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like, since we all exist on the same internet

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<v Speaker 3>for the most part, everybody just, all these kids now

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<v Speaker 3>consume the same stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's no separation of like white boys really heavily.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's a lot of it just being like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they are into alternative things, but they're not applying it

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<v Speaker 3>to like their style of dress.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's hot?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just don't, I don't know who's hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Right? Who is the boy right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is the boy?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But we don't have boy bands.

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<v Speaker 1>The K-pop bands. That's what it is now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is so wild.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not even.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're like, oh, he's Hot Jin or Juno.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we don't even do boy bands anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Like our band, like we do some girl groups, but

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<v Speaker 3>now you don't need to hear about them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who the Disney kid is either.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a favorite? And I'm not asking if

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<v Speaker 3>you have a song. I'm like, what was a girl

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<v Speaker 3>group that you were like, yes. And who was a crush?

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<v Speaker 1>SWV. Wow. Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>And it wasn't Coco or the Dawkinson sister.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Lili. It was the little white skin joint. Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I still love her. Do you okay? I still love

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<v Speaker 1>her to this day. All right, say it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that, would you say that, like, what

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<v Speaker 3>was your relationship to, like.

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<v Speaker 1>R &amp; B music?

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<v Speaker 3>And did it, like, inform, like, earlier we were discussing, like,

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<v Speaker 3>did that, did the type of women, because, you know, S.W.B.,

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<v Speaker 3>they was singing about some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They was, like, they was straight up, like, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>care that you got a man, the love is over here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, they was up. Yeah, yeah. They was up.

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<v Speaker 3>Did that inform your position on, like, how women... are

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<v Speaker 3>or who they would be when you were like 13?

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest, bro, I never really.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a little deep, Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a good question.

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<v Speaker 6>I never really listened to the lyrics to understand them.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>Like if it was something that caught my ear, I

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<v Speaker 6>would sing along with it when the shit came on.

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<v Speaker 6>But I didn't really understand music like how I understand

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<v Speaker 6>it now. So it was like, you know, a song

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<v Speaker 6>like Shanice, I Love Your Smile, right?

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<v Speaker 1>That shit.

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<v Speaker 6>I love Shawnice. That was like my super crush when

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<v Speaker 6>I was a little kid. So that song, just like

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<v Speaker 6>I would look at her and just feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>all the vibrant colors that you could see in you.

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<v Speaker 6>Like she's just such a sweet person just from that.

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<v Speaker 6>So I don't know who she, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 6>she is in real life or what's what, but that's

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<v Speaker 6>how I would develop, I guess, my emotions for these

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<v Speaker 6>kind of artists. So like, I never really studied the lyrics.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>It was always a feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>So In Vogue was a little too old for me.

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<v Speaker 2>You just like, I love her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You like a little older lady. Yeah. Singing, singing,

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<v Speaker 1>but tiny, light-skinned, and beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that Smoke is such a guy that he

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<v Speaker 4>used all those words to say, I love.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That was a lot. You love. Who was your

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<v Speaker 1>girl group?

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<v Speaker 2>That I was like, oh, that's tough.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was the R &amp; B singer that was like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the kind of woman that I need to

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<v Speaker 3>be with?

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<v Speaker 2>Mary.

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<v Speaker 1>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mary was like it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I feel like girls my age, Mary was it

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<v Speaker 4>for us.

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<v Speaker 1>You wanted to be with a girl who was going

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<v Speaker 1>through it.

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<v Speaker 2>We was all going through it, we thought.

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<v Speaker 1>So you couldn't... Mary did have every black woman going

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<v Speaker 1>through it.

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<v Speaker 6>That should have you depressed that like, hey, even if

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<v Speaker 6>you was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we was all going through it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Mary's like, even if you were happy listening to Mary,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd just be like, well, something could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>She had pain in her voice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we was like big into Mary for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that was my biggest memory. I probably

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<v Speaker 2>listened to.

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<v Speaker 1>Mary the most. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>When I thought I liked women, when I thought I did,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would have to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Monica.

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<v Speaker 2>I was two seconds from being an asshole. And I

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<v Speaker 2>swear I shoved it down my throat.

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<v Speaker 1>What? Bring it back. Bring it back.

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<v Speaker 2>I was two minutes from saying RuPaul. And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>don't do it, Sam. Let Alex have this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see how I still invited it? You see

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<v Speaker 1>how I still was like, you know what? Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I will hear it later. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather it be happening right now than it be

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<v Speaker 3>bottled up where I don't least expect it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know? That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead. That was a good one. Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a good one. That was a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Monica.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead. It was Monica.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I just always was like this. In the same

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<v Speaker 3>way that you, like, with yours, the way I would

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<v Speaker 3>describe it was colorful. And, like, she could sing so well.

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<v Speaker 3>And she was really beautiful, too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Sure. And there was still, like, that hood edge, too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there was.

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<v Speaker 3>Because Brandy, you know, yeah, Brandy was, like, a beautiful girl.

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<v Speaker 3>But Moesha made me fall off on Brandy. Because I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't like to.

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<v Speaker 1>See her too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Moesha was annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all got to see her too much. That's why.

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<v Speaker 4>Moesha was also that's right like have you watched not

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<v Speaker 4>to be that person but Moesha comes on whatever that

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<v Speaker 4>new channel is where they put all the old.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff I can't think of it but.

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<v Speaker 2>You know yeah and um I watch it She is terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the villain.

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<v Speaker 2>She is fucking awful.

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<v Speaker 1>She is the protagonist. She's the antagonist. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>She's the antagonist.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta watch it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody likes you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>You're just in everybody's shit. You're minding everybody's business.

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<v Speaker 2>Telling everybody how they need to live.

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<v Speaker 1>You're stressing your dad out constantly.

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<v Speaker 2>Does she know my mom?

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<v Speaker 1>Girl, we know. And then they made Frank an evil person.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember how they did him?

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<v Speaker 1>It was so annoying. Who was supposed to be his

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<v Speaker 1>nephew was his son? Oh, yeah, Ray J. They did

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<v Speaker 1>his character so dirty on that show.

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<v Speaker 4>No, they turned up on him. He was like a

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<v Speaker 4>secret trying to be a father-uncle.

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<v Speaker 1>Nigga, which is wild.

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<v Speaker 3>Ray J, that's a crazy storyline for as wholesome as

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<v Speaker 3>that show was actually going for.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what broke it up. That's what ended it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what ended it. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that was wild.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was time because Moesha was becoming unbearable. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like, girl, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Please. Please.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Brandy, beautiful girl.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, back when I thought I was going

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<v Speaker 3>to have a future with women, I was like, if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be with a woman, she has to

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<v Speaker 3>have a little edge to her. She can't just be,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I wasn't buying the girl next door thing

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<v Speaker 3>they were selling.

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<v Speaker 2>In the 90s. You wanted a girl in the streets.

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<v Speaker 3>From the street she gotta lowkey be a dude you

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<v Speaker 3>know that's.

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<v Speaker 4>What I'm about to say sounds like she gotta know

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<v Speaker 4>how to fight yeah she gotta be able to hold

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<v Speaker 4>her arm you know if we walk down the street

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<v Speaker 4>niggas grab my ass she gotta be able to defend me.

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<v Speaker 1>Fight for me bitch we can we have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go that's a good ending that's a good.

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<v Speaker 1>Ending Smoke Dizzy. Thank you so much for being with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for being here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me, man. Tell them where they can

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<v Speaker 1>find you. Next.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm on Instagram at Smoke Dizzy, D-Z-A. Fourth Rope, our

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<v Speaker 6>wrestling company. Shout out to my brother, West Side Gun.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for being here. Thank you. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for having me. It was a blast. Thank you, guys. Like, subscribe, comment, rate, review,

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<v Speaker 2>Please, and listen to it.

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