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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody walking to Move the Sticks presented by

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Speaker 1: Quake Conference during What Bucks Man, It's been a good

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Speaker 1: day so far. Excited about some of the things we

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Speaker 1: got going on. Yeah, today's show. Uh got some cool

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Speaker 1: tell the folks what we got coming up today, Buck.

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Speaker 1: Part of my excitement stands from our conversation with Penn

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Speaker 1: State HITD coach James Franklin. Were gonna take a look

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Speaker 1: at Monday Night Football reviews some of the players, particularly

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. And then we have an offensive line of

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Speaker 1: the week, a surprise teams. All right, so we got

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Speaker 1: a lot to jump into. Let's let's start off, as

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Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. Big win. Their first time in a

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Speaker 1: long time that the the Tennessee Titans have been able

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Speaker 1: watch this football game this morning. Uh didn't see it

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Offense. They win thirty six twenty to A

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Speaker 1: couple of those running backs got loose. Derrick Henry big game,

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Speaker 1: there for Luke Falk also fumbled a couple of times

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Speaker 1: lost one of them. Talked to Scott was at the

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Speaker 1: football game and said, you know, look, I'm not making

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Speaker 1: excuses for the kid. I'm not doing it, but just

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Speaker 1: it was a bizarre atmosphere at this game. It's a

431
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Speaker 1: Friday night game coming and you're coming off of uh,

432
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Speaker 1: you know, a team that is six and oh, but

433
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Speaker 1: they go on the road. They had the fires up

434
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Speaker 1: in northern California, so there was some doubt about whether

435
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Speaker 1: they're gonna play this football game or not. He said,

436
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Speaker 1: Cal came out there pretty much did their regular warm up.

437
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Speaker 1: Washington State just came out there a little bit before

438
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Speaker 1: the game, didn't get a full warm up in and

439
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Speaker 1: it was kind of half speed. I don't know if

440
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Speaker 1: it was I'm sure it's because of the air quality.

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Speaker 1: I don't I didn't read anything about this, but he

442
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Speaker 1: said it was bizarre that this team just didn't There

443
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Speaker 1: was no they didn't have their normal routine. They just did.

444
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Speaker 1: They came out, they weren't ready to play. They didn't

445
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Speaker 1: show up, and they got whitewashed by Cow in that

446
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Speaker 1: football game. So he wasn't giving Luke Falk a pass. Said, Look,

447
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Speaker 1: he didn't play good, no question about it, but there's

448
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Speaker 1: still a lot of love in scouting circles for him. Now.

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Speaker 1: I have people have a prominent uh college football broadcasting

450
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Speaker 1: does a lot of these games and we're going back

451
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Speaker 1: and forth via text. He doesn't see it with Luke

452
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Speaker 1: Falk questions is his size and questions they're just the

453
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Speaker 1: top end arm strength that he has, which I don't

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Speaker 1: think he has a huge arm. I was told, I know,

455
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Speaker 1: over the summer or over the spring, wan Scouts went

456
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Speaker 1: through their way to twenty one. I was told he's

457
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Speaker 1: now closer to to thirty. He carries it differently because

458
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Speaker 1: you would never guess that, and looking at him, he's

459
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Speaker 1: gonna be six three and change about two d two

460
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pounds. I don't think the size is

461
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Speaker 1: gonna get him. I haven't seen him. Have you seen

462
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Speaker 1: him throw a live? I haven't seen him throw live.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen him through a lot. When I watched

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Speaker 1: him on tape, I just gave him he's got no jump.

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Speaker 1: There's no jump on him, plus B minus. I wasn't

466
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Speaker 1: over the impressed with his arm strength in his arms town,

467
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Speaker 1: and I felt like a lot of things that he

468
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Speaker 1: did happened kind of in between that box, like inside

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Speaker 1: the numbers from that ten to fifteen yard range. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a good player. Everyone tells you his

471
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Speaker 1: intangibles off to charts. Um At the quarterback position. Scouts

472
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Speaker 1: rave about him, but I mean, I think he's okay.

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Speaker 1: He's not someone I would necessarily be fried up about

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Speaker 1: if he was a potential franchise quarterback that we were

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Speaker 1: looking at. How about him? The interesting debate with a

476
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Speaker 1: lot of people is when you talk about him, um

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Speaker 1: and you talk about going down to Mason Rudolph at

478
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State and comparing those two guys, I think they're

479
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Speaker 1: in a competition Joscelyn for position, maybe with a Baker

480
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Speaker 1: Mayfield in that next rung after the big I would say,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see who all ends up coming out.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at at Sam Donald, Josh Rosen,

483
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Speaker 1: and even Josh Allen, I think those guys have kind

484
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Speaker 1: of established themselves right up there at the top. And

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Speaker 1: then Lamar Jackson being the ultimate wild card man. I

486
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Speaker 1: think he is the ultimately still playing great this year,

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Speaker 1: He's been great and not very good. Yeah, team is

488
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Speaker 1: not good. He's having to do everything, and Biby Petrino

489
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Speaker 1: quickly abandoned that whole thing. I'm gonna develop him like

490
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Speaker 1: an NFL. I'm gonna let him run around and make plays.

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Speaker 1: I think the big thing will be who becomes fascinated

492
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Speaker 1: by the sheer, athleticism and talent that you could work with. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think the team that really takes a chance on

494
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Speaker 1: the Lamar Jackson is a team that has a quarterback

495
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Speaker 1: already in place, maybe an athletic quarterback already in place,

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Speaker 1: where you can kind of have the luxury you're really

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Speaker 1: taking your time to develop him. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: restaurant to the field. One other point before we move

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Speaker 1: on here, talking to another personnel guy, he brought up

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Speaker 1: a great point talking about the the process. Now it's

501
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Speaker 1: it's been stretched out, used to be. Okay, let's watch

502
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Speaker 1: the seniors and then at the end of the day

503
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Speaker 1: we'll see what juniors come out, and we'll start looking

504
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Speaker 1: at now at the quarterback position. These guys come in

505
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Speaker 1: at freshman, you're taking your notes on him, you're studying,

506
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Speaker 1: you're following them through the entire process to see where

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Speaker 1: they are. He brought up a great point. He was

508
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Speaker 1: actually talking about the Oregon quarterback we talked to it.

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Speaker 1: Pack told Media Day Herbert, right, Herbert, justin Herbert, big

510
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Speaker 1: kid with huge hands, tall along He said, this is

511
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Speaker 1: the problem. You get a guy like that who could

512
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Speaker 1: be developed into being just a pure pocket passer. He's

513
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Speaker 1: got all the ability in the world. But he said,

514
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Speaker 1: because he's mobile enough, they incorporate him in the run game.

515
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Speaker 1: And he said he doesn't know how to protect himself.

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Speaker 1: He's getting the crap kicked out of him now, he's

517
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Speaker 1: missing games. He said, So some of these quarterbacks the

518
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Speaker 1: college game because of the run game, they have unnecessary

519
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Speaker 1: mileage on some of these kids. When they get into

520
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Speaker 1: the leak, they're they're already beat up. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a dilemma. It's a dilemma for college coaches.

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Speaker 1: Um obviously because they're not necessarily developing quarterbacks with the

523
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Speaker 1: game pro game. But you have to sprinkle him in

524
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Speaker 1: enough but not do it too much. And I think

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Speaker 1: the NFL has shown a blueprint with these athletic quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: on how to do it and protect them. If you

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Speaker 1: notice when you watch Marcus Mariota, Deshaun Watson, Dak Prescott,

528
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Speaker 1: most of their running occurs in the red zone, so

529
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Speaker 1: they run to score or occasionally on a third down situation,

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Speaker 1: they'll pull it to go around the corner and they

531
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Speaker 1: hit right to the sideline. And so I think there's

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Speaker 1: there's a way to incorporate that. It's you don't major

533
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Speaker 1: in it, you minor in it, and you find a

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Speaker 1: way to allow those guys to utilize their ath. So

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Speaker 1: the other one he was talking about young quarterbacks was

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Speaker 1: a Texas kid, Oh Ellinger, who is Sam Ellinger, who

537
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Speaker 1: is a big, strong kid of swag. But he carried

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Speaker 1: the ball two times against Oklahoma. He's like, I don't

539
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Speaker 1: care how big you are, they're just getting beat the crap. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: funny story about that kid, Ellinger. He was two years

541
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Speaker 1: ago at the opening my team won the championship. I

542
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Speaker 1: was helping out on offense and defense. We played them.

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Speaker 1: I forget who their story was. He was the second

544
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Speaker 1: team quarter He comes in the second half. I mean,

545
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Speaker 1: we're blowing the doors. I forgot two or two like, yeah,

546
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Speaker 1: we're smoking him, right. So he comes in the second

547
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Speaker 1: with those couple of touchdowns and after the game, you know,

548
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Speaker 1: when you're shaking hands, he was like, you're gonna be

549
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Speaker 1: glad I didn't play the first half. Oh huh. I

550
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Speaker 1: took note of that because now when I see the

551
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Speaker 1: kid what he has and we'll hear this in the conversation.

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Speaker 1: He has a little bit of that dude factor. Um,

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Speaker 1: there was a post that circulated on Twitter when he

554
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Speaker 1: was going in the tunnel after the game and they

555
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Speaker 1: talked about him throwing up to hook him. Horne signed

556
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Speaker 1: after that loss. But it was revealing because he just

557
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: gets it. He's a competitive dude. He loves it. It'll

558
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Speaker 1: be interesting to follow him. But when we talk about

559
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Speaker 1: the in fact and what people have, he kind of

560
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Speaker 1: has some of that that stuff that you look for

561
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Speaker 1: at the position. That's Uh, it's interesting that you bring

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Speaker 1: that up because that's something we're gonna get into here.

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Speaker 1: This is our interview we had just a little bit

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Speaker 1: earlier with James Franklin, the head coach at Penn State. Bucky.

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Speaker 1: One of the cool things we're doing this year nfl

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Every week we're profiling a different athlete to

567
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Speaker 1: take one of our talent writers. We sent him out

568
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Speaker 1: to get the goods and get all the background information

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Speaker 1: on one of the top players in college football. This week,

570
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Speaker 1: Kim Jones went back to Penn State where she attended

571
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Speaker 1: and and did a feature on se Kwon Barkley. That's

572
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Speaker 1: outstanding and I couldn't be more excited than to welcome

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Speaker 1: our next guest head coach at Penn State in his

574
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Speaker 1: fourth year, James Franklin chat a little bit about Sae

575
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Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley and this and this Penn State football team coach.

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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: The first question I have for is is when did

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Speaker 1: you know in the process, Maybe it was through recruiting

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Speaker 1: or when he got on campus, was sa Kwon Barkley

580
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Speaker 1: that you had something special? Well, first of all, put

581
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Speaker 1: put the graphic of s Kwon back on the modelor

582
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Speaker 1: nobody wants to look at my you know Kwon. You

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Speaker 1: know what I got the job. Sa Quon was committed

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Speaker 1: to Rutgers, and um, you know, we we identified him

585
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Speaker 1: as a guy that we didn't really want leaving the state.

586
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Speaker 1: At that time. We knew he was a good back.

587
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Speaker 1: I was gonna have a nice, big ten career. I

588
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Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily say that, we you know, thought he was

589
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Speaker 1: gonna be what he is today obvious lee. Um, But

590
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Speaker 1: then I will tell you this. He committed us and

591
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Speaker 1: then his senior year he had a special senior year.

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Speaker 1: You know he started, uh you know the hurdling thing

593
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Speaker 1: that he does. Now. It's funny because is after you

594
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Speaker 1: graduating he said, Coach, I'm not I'm not gonna hurdle

595
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Speaker 1: guys anymore. Um, you know, I'm not. I'm not gonna

596
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Speaker 1: do that anymore. I said, that don't really make a

597
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Speaker 1: whole lot of sense to me, because in high school

598
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Speaker 1: in the state of Pennsylvania, it's illegal, and in college

599
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: it's legal. So I'm like, it doesn't make sense that

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Speaker 1: you'd stop doing it now when when it's actually legal

601
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Speaker 1: doing college. You know. But um, he's kind of like

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Speaker 1: I describe him like, you know, Frankenstein running back, Like

603
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Speaker 1: if you had to choose all the qualities you were

604
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Speaker 1: looking for to build it back, he's got him. He's

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Speaker 1: got the body type you're looking forward. It's got the intelligence,

606
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Speaker 1: he's got the leadership. Um, you know, he's got the speed,

607
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Speaker 1: to quickness to power. He can you know, catch them

608
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Speaker 1: all out of the backfield. I think that's what makes

609
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Speaker 1: him special is the combination of traits that he has,

610
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Speaker 1: not one thing that you get mesmerized about, but just

611
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: a combination of all the different traits. You know, Coach,

612
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: he can be a one man show at times. His

613
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Speaker 1: ability to do so many things as you described, how

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Speaker 1: do you harness that as as a play caller, How

615
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Speaker 1: do you get your play caller to make sure we

616
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: want to feature si Quan and so many different facets

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Speaker 1: to really maximize his talent on the field. But I

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Speaker 1: think for us, you know, we're a true RPO team.

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Speaker 1: So you know, when he carries the ball in the

620
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Speaker 1: running game, he's carrying it into a pretty good look

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Speaker 1: because we're usually reading some defender, whether it's a d

622
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Speaker 1: N linebacker, safety, whatever it may be. UM, So that helps.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we're not like a pro style offense

624
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Speaker 1: that you see UM, where guys we're just gonna hand

625
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Speaker 1: the ball off to him and run power down people's throats.

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Speaker 1: So we've had a bunch of games where you know,

627
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: he doesn't necessarily touch the ball, you know, especially as

628
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Speaker 1: a runner um. You know, maybe in the first you know,

629
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Speaker 1: two series of the game. But we also realize that,

630
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Speaker 1: you know, he's a difference maker and we need to

631
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Speaker 1: get the ball in his hands. So we have a

632
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: lot of different ways to do it as a receiver,

633
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Speaker 1: as a kickoff return guy in a traditional in in game,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I think that's what also helps our

635
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: offense and helps our team is that you know, we

636
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: can use them so many different ways, so it's hard

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Speaker 1: to game plan, you know, to completely eliminate him from

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Speaker 1: a game. You can obviously limit his impact when you're

639
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: run of the one back offense that can always overload

640
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: you in the box, but you create other opportunities for us.

641
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: So that's where I would make the argument he's the

642
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: most valuable player in college football. And there's no doubt

643
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: he's the most exciting. I mean, he's made some plays.

644
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: I've been doing his twenty three years at every level

645
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: including the NFL, and he's made some plays that just

646
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: you know, even me, my, my my mouth is wide

647
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: open watching some of the things that he's able to do. Yeah,

648
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: I had a front row seat at the Rose Bowl

649
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: last year and saw just what he was capable of.

650
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: He was outstanding and that in that football game. Coach,

651
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: everybody that I talked to that's rolled through their scouts

652
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: and different people close to the program say, as good

653
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: as this kid is on the field, uh, he's exceptional

654
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: off the field in terms of in the locker room,

655
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: his leadership, and just personality wise. Everybody raised about this kid.

656
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: Is there a story about him and you could share

657
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: with us that lets us know a little bit more

658
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: about say Kwon Barkley, the kid. You know, I don't

659
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: know if I would say, you know, one specific story.

660
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of just a combination of examples of things.

661
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: You know, from a football perspective, He's never once asked

662
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: for the ball more. UM. You know, whenever he gets

663
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: an opportunity to praise his teammates, that that's what it's

664
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: all about. It's always about the team, not about him. UM.

665
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: In the community, he's the guy that we have to

666
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: pull away at the end of the game because they'll

667
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: stay out there for an hour and a half. UM

668
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: after the game, signing autographs with kids and taking pictures.

669
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: You know, this weekend, during our bye week, he went

670
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: back to his community and went to elementary school and

671
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: talked to kids. UM. You know, whenever we have any

672
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: community service projects, he's the first one in line. He

673
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: just gets it. He's a guy that's really embraced the

674
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: whole collegiate experience academically, athletically, socially, spiritually, UM, and has

675
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: taken advantage of all the resources and opportunities. So you know,

676
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: he's he's a special guy and I'm really proud of him. UM.

677
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: In so many ways, and and probably more so than

678
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: than what he's been able to do from a football perspective. Hey, coach,

679
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: he came up to the opening which was held at

680
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: Nike Headquarters, and he had opportunity to work out with

681
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: Tom Shaw and a bunch of great UH college athletes,

682
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: and Tom Shaw told me that he's one of the

683
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: most explosive athletes that he's ever seen in terms of

684
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: his strength, of power, his speed. Um, talk about what

685
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: you see when he's away from the field, when he's

686
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: going through offseason workouts are in the weight room. How

687
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: diligent of a work is he, What kind of special

688
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: athlete is he? Well, he sets the tone for our

689
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: whole organization. I mean literally, we stopped kind of testing

690
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: him on testing day because you know, at some point,

691
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: you know how much you're squatting and how much your

692
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: power cleaning and benching. You know you've proven the point,

693
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: all right, you know we don't need to do anymore.

694
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: But he's such a competitive guy. He gets in there

695
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: and everybody's you know, Max testing and he wants to

696
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: jump in as well. But you know, um, you know,

697
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is when you see him

698
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: in person and you look at his lower body from

699
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: his waist down. It's freakish. I mean it really he is. Um,

700
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy who's gonna run, uh for

701
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: three and I don't really believe four three guys exists,

702
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: but but he's gonna run for three. Um. You know,

703
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: he's one of these guys. Whatever you put on the bar,

704
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: he'll bench squad or power clean. Um. You know, he

705
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: just he's really really gifted. He really is in so

706
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: many different ways. I mean he's throwing a touchdown pass,

707
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: he's got touchdown receptions. Uh. He's a guy that you could,

708
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: you know, use like a Marshall Falk and line him

709
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: up as a wide receiver in a slot. That's something

710
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: I talked to him about for the last two years

711
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: in the summer that, you know, something that he really

712
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: needed to work on, whether we were gonna use him

713
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: at that or not, because it's gonna be important for

714
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: his future. You know, he's just he's a he's a

715
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: hard working guy who gets the big picture and understands,

716
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, what we're trying to do from a team perspective.

717
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: But he also, you know, understands the impact that's gonna

718
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: have on his future as well. Coach. We we got

719
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: plenty there on on Kwan. We can't wait to watch

720
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: him this week. And I want to ask you a

721
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: couple of questions as we look at the bigger picture

722
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: here with your foot A program sitting here, a number

723
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: two in the country, and you've got Michigan, Ohio State,

724
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: and Michigan State coming up, does it get any better

725
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: than this life right now for you in college football,

726
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: sitting where you are, the challenges you've got in front

727
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: of I think game days coming out there this weekend.

728
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: Just how cool is your life right now getting ready

729
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: for all these challenges. Well, it'd be a lot cooler

730
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: if the conference broke those three games of it. You

731
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: know that that's why you play big time football. That's

732
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: why you know, come to a place like Penn State

733
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: for these challenges. You know. Um, you know, i'd make

734
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: the argument that our division, our side of the conference.

735
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: You know, you can make argument, you know, maybe the

736
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: best in college football. You've got Penn State, Michigan State,

737
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: Ohio State, and Michigan all on the same side of

738
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: the conference. So it's it's impressive. Um, you know, but yeah,

739
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: you know it's funny because we're ranked number two in

740
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: the country as a player, as a coach. You know,

741
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: I've never been a part of an organization rank that high.

742
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: And you know, you know, I I guess part of

743
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: me thinks, you know, that I would feel differently, but

744
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I still wake up every single learning early

745
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: come in the office. I'm concerned about, you know, getting

746
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: our guys prepared and eliminating distractions and and and getting better.

747
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: You know. So I don't really feel any different, um

748
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: as an organization or as a head coach. You know,

749
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: in some ways, I think a lot of these things

750
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: are distractions. So I think that's one of the most

751
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: important jobs that a head coach has, is eliminating distractions

752
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: for his staff and for his players. Um. And you

753
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: look last weekend in college football. That's why college football

754
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: is so exciting. You know how many ranked teams got

755
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: upset last week? You know. So, um, you know, we

756
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: want to learn from those things, We want to grow

757
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: from those things. We got a pretty mature football team,

758
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: and the most important thing we can do is go

759
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: out and maximize today and have the best meetings and

760
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: practices we possibly can. So come Friday, we can put

761
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: our head on the pillow and feel really comfortable about

762
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: our preparation. Coach. Last question from mean Bucky and myself

763
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: are renambered with the quarterback position and all the coaches

764
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: we have on we like to hit him with the

765
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: same question. You got a good quarterback there and Trace McSorley.

766
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: But when when you're on the recruiting know you're looking

767
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 1: at quarterbacks, if you had to just limit it right

768
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: to the very most important thing, the most important trait

769
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: you're looking for in that position, what is it for you? Well,

770
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: you know I played the position, I've coached a position.

771
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: Coach Moorehead does a great job, you know, for us.

772
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: I think the ultimate thing is a winner. And I

773
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: know that sounds obvious, but you look at Trace McSorley, Um,

774
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: I think his record was something like fifty and five

775
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: in high school. They went to four straight state championships.

776
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: He wanted in ninth grade, one of the tenth grade,

777
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: one of the eleventh grade, twelfth grade he took him

778
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: to the state championship. I think the status him and

779
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: Alan Iverson were the only two quarterbacks in the in

780
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: the history of the state of Virginia to take their

781
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: teams to four straight state championships. So there's just something

782
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: about it. You know. A lot of guys can win

783
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: a state championship maybe one year, uh, for a lot

784
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: of different reasons. But you don't take your team to

785
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: four straight without having something to you. Uh. Tracy is

786
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: gonna walk in the room. He's not gonna pass the

787
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: eyeball test. He's not six three, two hundred and twenty pounds, um.

788
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: But he he's got the it factor, the thing that

789
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: we've all as coaches and as analysts been trying to

790
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: figure out what that is. Um, you know since the

791
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: beginning of time. He's got it, you know, UM. And

792
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: for us that that's kind of what I look for

793
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: on the on the trail is is finding a guy

794
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: that has a lot of the traits. I think one

795
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: of the big mistakes that people make is they find

796
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: a guy that is really big or really fast, You've

797
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: got a really strong arm, or one trait that you

798
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: get really caught up in where I think your your

799
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: odds are better if you find a guy that does

800
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: a lot of things well rather than one or two

801
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: traits that just blow you away. And that's that's what

802
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: Trace has. Except for the eyeball test, he's got all

803
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: the other things necessary. Coach. That's an outstanding a thoughtful

804
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: answer there. We've collected a bunch of information from coaches

805
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: that might be the best one we've got on the

806
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: quarterback position. Hey, best of luck this week, Best of

807
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: luck in the stretch you're getting ready to go on.

808
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: It's great to see Penn State back up there in

809
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: the national conversation. You got it rolling and wish you

810
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: the best of luck. Guys were getting better. I appreciate it.

811
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: Will leave you with this. You know, rankings at the

812
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: midpoint of the season mean nothing, so we're appreciative of it.

813
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: It's awesome for our program and for our kids, but

814
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: you know, we're just really focused on being one oh

815
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: this week against a great University of Michigan football team.

816
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, coach. We appreciate your time. These

817
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: guys have a great one fucky. Fascinating chat there with

818
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: James Franklin. I thought the stuff on st kon Barkley

819
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: was outstanding, but I I took away the biggest thing

820
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: for me. I'm so enamored by what these coaches look

821
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: for in the quarterback position, and I thought he was

822
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: very eloquent in describing what he's looking for very eloquent

823
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: in describing what he was looking for. And you know,

824
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: we keep talking about what is the secret sauce at

825
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: the position, and that secret sauce maybe that um, do

826
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: they have the ability to win games? At the end

827
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: of the day, if we're playing in the backyard, will

828
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: that quarterback find a way to let my team get

829
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 1: to the winner circle? And so we can talk about

830
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: the physical traits and the i Q and the arm

831
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: strength and arm talent, but at the end of the day,

832
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: can they put it together to get their guys to

833
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: believe in them and can they get their guy into

834
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: the All right, that's uh, that should do it for today.

835
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: But I have a surprise for you. Last week on

836
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: the pod, we did something that got a lot of

837
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: feedback and got a lot of people talking enjoyed it.

838
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: We call a little role play. We need to get

839
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: a drop. We need to create a drop for role

840
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: play because I want to make this something that we

841
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: do every week here. So you don't even know the

842
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: role that I have for every week every week. So

843
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: I've you did such a good job as Tom Osborne.

844
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: You played it beautifully trying to bring I've got a

845
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,479
Speaker 1: new I've got a new role for you today. Okay,

846
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: are you ready? All right? This weekend one of the

847
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: big games in college football to top fifteen teams too,

848
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: long time rivals, one of the best, the most historical

849
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: rivals in all of sports. We have USC traveling to

850
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: take on Notre Dame. Now, these two programs, buck, as

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Speaker 1: you know, compete for a lot of the same kids.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame comes to California a lot, and they come

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Speaker 1: after a lot of the same kids and they recruit them.

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Speaker 1: So this weekend, I'm sure Notre Dame is gonna have

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Speaker 1: a bunch of their top recruits in campus to check

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Speaker 1: out the game, and a lot of these kids are

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Speaker 1: gonna also be getting recruited by you to see. But

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Speaker 1: I need you to play the role of Brian Kelly

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Speaker 1: this week, and I want you to sell these five

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Speaker 1: star recruits you've got on campus of why they should

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Speaker 1: go to Notre Dame and not stay in southern California

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Speaker 1: and attend USC. Mr Kelly, what do you have to say? Oh,

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Speaker 1: this is an easy one. I mean, I know you

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Speaker 1: have USC on your list, and I loved that fine

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Speaker 1: institution out there in l A and La La Land

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Speaker 1: have a lot of Hollywood people. You know, I see

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Speaker 1: Wilfer and all those guys out there on the sideline. However,

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Speaker 1: I'm worried about your long term development as a young

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Speaker 1: man beyond what happens in football, because look, you can

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Speaker 1: be a football player for four years, but that Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame family is gonna take care of you for life.

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Speaker 1: But coach, what about the weather, uh, the weather, cold

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Speaker 1: weather and all that, like, it's nice, it's it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be great when you think about your parents, your grandparents.

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Speaker 1: It is going to give you an opportunity to play

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Speaker 1: football the way it should be played. If you go

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Speaker 1: back and you look at all our greats, if you

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Speaker 1: go back and you go into our hell old hall

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Speaker 1: and you see er Procision and Jerry Faust and Dande

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Speaker 1: fine and yeah, I mean, but we're not worried about that.

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Speaker 1: We absolutely believe that the way that we played football

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Speaker 1: here in front of touchdown, hey, sus and we believe

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Speaker 1: that this is the best way that you can develop

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Speaker 1: as a young person, playing the game where it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be played. Man, it doesn't get better than doing it.

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Speaker 1: And Notre Dame, but coach, you look so mad on

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Speaker 1: the sideline and coach. Helton just seems like such a

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Speaker 1: nice guy. I mean, he is a nice guy. He

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Speaker 1: he's a great he's one of my best buddies outside

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Speaker 1: of here. But on game day, on game they look

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00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: at it gets a little intense. I want to win.

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00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: I want to see you play your best, and sometimes

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00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: it requires me to jump out of character. So even

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Speaker 1: though I made you on you a little bit, please

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Speaker 1: know that later in the game, I'm gonna come and

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Speaker 1: love you because you're my guy. We're building this thing

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Speaker 1: around you. You can bring us back to prominence. We

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Speaker 1: are so close. We're sitting here ran in the country

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Speaker 1: man with you. I think we can win. She's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Nicely done, nicely done. Good, Brian Kelly, you

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Speaker 1: stacked at deck against him. Now I hit you with

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Speaker 1: the weather, hit you with the with the yelling. Could

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Speaker 1: you know what the reputation the family? That's right, cold weather?

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Speaker 1: Do you know? Do you know we we spray paint

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Speaker 1: out helmets every week, every every week Friday night with

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Speaker 1: the special gold dust right there, glimmers right off the light.

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Speaker 1: All right, you don't have to play the rule anymore.

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Speaker 1: Come on, You're not Brian Kell anymore. Now if I

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Speaker 1: just if I just ask you the kid, Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: the kid, where you going? If here's a position, play

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Speaker 1: your receiver. Gosh, I don't know if they throw enough.

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Speaker 1: I have one of my kids up there. C J. Sanders,

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Speaker 1: um that he's quick. He is quick. It's tough though,

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Speaker 1: because sc Man weather is nice. They throw it around

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Speaker 1: a lot. They play a lot of guys. They may

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Speaker 1: played too many guys, you know, don't want a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I need to be subbed in

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Speaker 1: it out. I see the hockey list substitution. They got

919
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Speaker 1: taller vos coming in, Michael Pittman. That's a lot of guys. No, Todame,

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Speaker 1: I don't see as much. Are they running to football? Not?

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Speaker 1: The name is running the ball and running back. You know,

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Speaker 1: I gotta do a little more working on Adams. He's

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Speaker 1: a good player. Man. They're running like rusting yeards a game.

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Speaker 1: They not a lot of of throws out there for me. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what role play? Can we get something

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Speaker 1: done on that? We need to get a little drop,

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Speaker 1: a little drop for role play. All right, we'll get that.

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Speaker 1: We'll get that done for next time. I don't and

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Speaker 1: I love the fact you don't even know who you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be playing. That's the sign of a great actor. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I just hand you, I hand you the

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Speaker 1: script and you nail. I didn't know we had this guy.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know they were playing. Man. That's a good game.

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Speaker 1: It's a big game. We're gonna get into all the

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Speaker 1: games here. On the next pod, well, we'll make our

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Speaker 1: picks for the college football weekend. We've got tons of

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Speaker 1: content coming to NFL dot com sas MPTS video. You

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Speaker 1: can check that out some folks, some of you folks

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for us today, Buck Move the Sticks

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Speaker 1: to James Franklin Akin for joining us, and we'll you

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