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Speaker 1: Full Circle is an iHeart women's sports production in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us

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Speaker 1: your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, welcome back to another episode of Full Circle,

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Speaker 2: the women's sports roundup you didn't know you needed. I'm

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Speaker 2: Lexie Brown here with Mariah Rose for breaking downald's happening

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Speaker 2: on the court and the culture and in our own

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Speaker 2: personal growth because women's sports deserves the whole conversation.

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Speaker 3: And today we have a very special guest.

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Speaker 2: We told y'all last week that we had someone super super,

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Speaker 2: super amazing coming on the show and she really needs

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Speaker 2: no introduction. If I gave her an actual introduction that

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Speaker 2: I typed out, it would take five minutes. We have

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Speaker 2: Madam President, future Hall of Famer Nika Goo.

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Speaker 3: Okay, everybody cheer who.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, I'm so happy to finally get you on

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 3: How are you happy?

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Speaker 2: Gotten some rest? You've been on like a little press

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Speaker 2: world tour? Good Morning America? You're on, Lisa, she.

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Speaker 3: Have you been?

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Speaker 4: I am well, thank you. I'm really happy to be

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Speaker 4: on the show. Obviously, I've I call her sexy Lexi. Everyone,

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Speaker 4: so let's let's put that out there. And of course, Mariah,

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Speaker 4: I'm so happy to be able to talk with you.

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Speaker 4: Have we met in person? I think you've met my sister.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I met your sister. Okay time, so we haven't

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Speaker 5: got in person.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so to be to be decided on that as well.

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Speaker 4: But I love this space. I love obviously what you

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Speaker 4: guys talk about, what you represent. And of course Lexi,

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Speaker 4: we've been through sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we finish and we've heard to talk about some

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Speaker 2: of them times.

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Speaker 3: Right now, Okay, we're going to get into it.

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Speaker 4: Before we start, though, everyone has to know that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think people do know that Lexi and Scorpio, but

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Speaker 4: a lot of people don't know that I have a

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Speaker 4: Scorpio moon and Mecca there's that and had a connection.

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Speaker 4: See Mecca knows all of these. See I don't know

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Speaker 4: much of this. But Mecca said, you know, I like you, Lexi.

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Speaker 4: I said, okay, that's good, that's really good.

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Speaker 2: When I came to LA for the first time, me

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Speaker 2: and Meka connected and it was like, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: funny every time if you guys watch the office, you know,

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Speaker 2: when like something happens and.

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Speaker 3: They look into the camera.

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Speaker 2: That was me and Mecca constantly in LA Like we'll

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Speaker 2: get into some La stories in a second.

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Speaker 3: But where are you right now? Are you at home?

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Speaker 3: Are you where are you in the world?

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Speaker 4: I'm not at home in Houston, in Houston.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Houston, can we talk about the comments coming back?

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Speaker 3: Are you excited? Is that amazing?

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Speaker 2: Like? Are you upset about the Sun moving like I've

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Speaker 2: been seeing mixed reviews.

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Speaker 4: You probably have more ties to the Sun than I do.

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Speaker 4: So I am happy about the comments coming back. And

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Speaker 4: I'm calling it the comments because I know that it

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Speaker 4: had there's no way that the name can change, like

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Speaker 4: that is too iconic of a name for it to change.

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Speaker 4: But I think it's I think it's amazing, and I

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Speaker 4: would like to say that, you know, although it is

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Speaker 4: sad to see, you know, a pro team leaving Connecticut,

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Speaker 4: considering how much history is in Connecticut with women's basketball,

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Speaker 4: I think that for it to move to Houston is

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: I saw that that you were able to get into

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Speaker 2: But I did say that that was actually a lower

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Speaker 2: I've been I'm like, interesting, it's very interesting, and I

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Speaker 2: I would have loved the team of Boston. But I'm

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited. I know that makes you happy because

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Speaker 3: So like walk us through like young Mekka and.

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Speaker 2: Her journey to Stanford, her journey to Stanford, because that's

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Speaker 4: So I mean, you know, as anyone who's from Houston,

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Speaker 4: went to Cipher High School. But before all of that,

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Speaker 4: a job with Compac, which I might be dating myself

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Speaker 4: Until I stepped into my a my first AAU practice.

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Speaker 4: I was not dressed for practice at all. I had

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Speaker 4: I thought I was just gonna walk in and like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And they were like, pop in, do what they're doing,

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Speaker 4: Just copy what they're doing, and I was I was

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Speaker 4: a mess. I was atrocious. But my coach saw something

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Speaker 3: That and older, and that happened.

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Speaker 4: I was ten eleven.

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Speaker 2: I was okay. I mean, so you were already playing

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Speaker 4: I think that. I think it's so funny, like even

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like like you know, I'm not someone who's like,

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Speaker 4: I love about basketball. So I would say that. And granted,

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Speaker 4: before I even started playing AU, we would watch together

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Speaker 4: as a family every Houston Rockets game, every Houston Commons game,

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Speaker 4: love watching the Detroit Pistons, and then of course our

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Speaker 2: And you're a you're a crazy athlete, And I think

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Speaker 4: Oh no, like I. So I approach dunking like how

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Speaker 4: I approach swimming. Like if I'm met like at a

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Speaker 3: So you don't want to be like dunk. Yeah, Like

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Speaker 4: Once you do it once, that's all everyone ever asked

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a crazy kka. That's like it's a crazy flex.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Sanford. I did not think you're gonna say that

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Mariah, for you, that makes sense because

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Speaker 3: Y'all were y'all were that that team? You Cheney? Who

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Speaker 6: So yeah, how did we go from you weren't even

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Speaker 4: You are a thousand percent correct, And I think that.

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Speaker 4: Then we were you know, I didn't realize how broad

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Speaker 2: Like they immediately cut the list down to like five schools.

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Speaker 3: They're like, okay, you could only go to these.

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Speaker 4: What's interesting though, is that like I don't like my

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Speaker 4: I narrowed down, dude, was actually I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: let me tell you right now, Duke was hard because

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Speaker 3: Did you win a championship?

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Speaker 6: There?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Girl, Oh you was there with my with Maya and

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Speaker 4: We were playing against Maya. We were playing against Tina.

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Speaker 4: I play against her name Montgomery and College.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, okay, I'm gonna ask her. Did you did

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Speaker 2: you see the.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, we're beating a dead horse right now? You see.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the comment from the Syracuse coach about

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Speaker 4: I think I saw something like that.

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Speaker 2: But how do you feel? How do you feel about that?

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Speaker 2: Because you were in because there's eras of Yukon basketball

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Speaker 3: Like this, this Sukon team is great.

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Speaker 2: Obviously they're undefeated, but like, come on now, I was

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Speaker 2: if you can remember the starting five of a Yukon

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Speaker 4: Against, I would love to hear it.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think. I mean, like I played in

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Speaker 4: going to the final four was like our thing, and

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Speaker 2: Stevie Stars, this team is in the same I just

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Speaker 3: I don't know how old I was. I m out

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Speaker 3: I might be I might have been eighth or ninth grade.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, no, But y'all like that era, like I

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Speaker 4: Two?

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Speaker 3: Two? And then yeah, who did you lose to in

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Speaker 4: I think we lost too. So the first year we

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Speaker 4: That's when we lost to. I want to say that

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Speaker 3: No, they were in No, no, no, no, no, that was Denver.

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Speaker 4: That was Denver. Okay, no, that was Denver. Was it Yukon?

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Speaker 4: you know what? You know what? We lost to Yukon

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Speaker 4: But we were up. And then my junior year we

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Speaker 4: we lost to Baylor. That was one that you had,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my senior year, which I think was the championship game.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's crazy. I told them Mariah last week.

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Speaker 2: I was like, in order to like legitimately have a

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Speaker 3: Players on your roster, like at the very least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, like not like w NBA All

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Speaker 3: And that's that held you back then.

437
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 2: It's it's definitely true now, Like I feel like now

438
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 2: it's even more obvious than it was back then.

439
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 3: Speak of the tournament. I know you're you're Stanford, you

440
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 3: know what I feel.

441
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: I feel bad for them because they're kind of like

442
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: in a weird space right now because of the PAC

443
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 2: twelve evaporating and how they're kind of just like in

444
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: this gray area. So we won't have we don't have

445
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 2: talk about dever right now unless you would like today.

446
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 3: I don't really watch much.

447
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 2: I didn't watch much of them this year, but I

448
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: feel like just their schedule, I mean, you Seela a

449
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 2: USC is dealing with the same thing, but it's yeah,

450
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: it's just weird that they're dealing with that, Like, how

451
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: do you feel about like even like the real like

452
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve like no longer existing.

453
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 4: I just thought that was really I think weird is

454
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 4: the best the best way to describe all of it.

455
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 4: It's just really sad. I think that I think that

456
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 4: there's ways where you know, other forces take over, kind

457
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 4: of like the integrity of of these things that have

458
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 4: been upheld, these systems that have been upheld for so long.

459
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 4: I also think too, like when it comes to Stanford,

460
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,719
Speaker 4: that we're in not just this this interesting space where

461
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 4: you know, our conference dissolved and now we're joining another one.

462
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,120
Speaker 4: But I also think that the nil is really something

463
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 4: that we're navigating right now. And a place like Stanford

464
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 4: is you know, players used to just go there without

465
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 4: a doubt because they knew the standard of academics and

466
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 4: athleticism or athletics. And now you bring in market value

467
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 4: and NIL and all this money, and that that really

468
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 4: changes how people are making decisions. And I hope that

469
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 4: we'll continue to grow in this space. And I think,

470
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 4: like you know, the freshman classes here is a great signifier,

471
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 4: like players that still you know, want to be at

472
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 4: Stanford for it being Stanford, while also understanding that they

473
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 4: have to make decisions for NIL in a way that

474
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: they know a university like Stanford can deliver. And so

475
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 4: I just know that it's too it's too brilliant of

476
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 4: an establishment and a university and an athletic program for

477
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 4: it too. I guess be in this funky space for

478
00:24:59,560 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: too long.

479
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, because there was like I remember, you know,

480
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: they give the universities like the the awards for being

481
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: like excellent the excellent sports, and Stanford is like always

482
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: in the conversation. But I mean, I feel like they're

483
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: kind of like the same. They're like in the same

484
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: like they have like the same problem as Duke. I

485
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 2: think the only difference is that Duke didn't They didn't

486
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 2: have to change a conference, so right, Duke has seen

487
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 2: like the most success throughout its sports in a long

488
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: time recently, which I think is so amazing. But when

489
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: I think about like a Stanford, I think about, Yeah,

490
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: people go to Duke because the academics and the athletics.

491
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: I have no idea what Nile looks like at Duke,

492
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: but you know, it's still Duke, acc like they've been

493
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: there since day one.

494
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: So I feel like even yet that conference switch kind

495
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 3: of hurt them a little bit.

496
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, like you said, they're too good

497
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 2: of a school and they have too good of sports

498
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: and too good of like just.

499
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 3: An environment for them to like be down for too long.

500
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: Would you like you know how they are giving these

501
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 2: like GM ambassador type roles to athletes.

502
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: Would you ever know you don't want no parts through college?

503
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 4: I mean, like low key at any level? Really, Like

504
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 4: I just don't know if I have. I think the

505
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 4: people who are doing those jobs they are really they

506
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 4: are patient and they're you know, you have to be

507
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 4: like obsessive about it to a degree for you to

508
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: take that much time to now manage like to manage

509
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 4: something like that, and I just I'm not willing to

510
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 4: give up.

511
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: Enough, like man do that.

512
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: It's like, but it's like managing something that's unregulated, and

513
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: I just for me, you know how I want to be.

514
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 2: People are like, would you ever do it in college?

515
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know, because it's like there's

516
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 2: no rules.

517
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that scares me. So I mean, I honestly

518
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: I give a lot of grace to the people that

519
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 4: are that are taking on those roles.

520
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm like, I'm hearing about players coming into

521
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: coach's office asking for more money, not.

522
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: What can I do to get better for next year.

523
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, you, like, what is going on?

524
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 4: Is going on?

525
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: Like y'all y'all need to be asking a coach what

526
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: can I do to help us win? Not how much

527
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 2: more money can I get? It's so backwards, but hey,

528
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty six. It's where we're at. Might have

529
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: any more questions about college before we move to the

530
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 2: fun stuff.

531
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm curious how honestly from both of you, you think

532
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: me and Lexi talk about all the time, like her

533
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: on social media when she was in college and like

534
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: the nil being so different now and how it used

535
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: to be a bad thing to be like I'm vlogging

536
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: and now it's like encouraged right for you.

537
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 5: How do you think your college career.

538
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: Would have been different if these structures were in place?

539
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. I mean, I just remember how I

540
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: was in college, and like, even how I am today,

541
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily someone who I don't ever really remember

542
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 4: to capture stuff. I'm not uncomfortable in front of a camera,

543
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: but I think that there would be days when I'm like,

544
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 4: I don't feel like doing this, you know. I actually

545
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 4: actually think that the way that college athletes are adapting

546
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 4: to like being a business is remarkable because I don't

547
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: know if I would have had the capacity to be

548
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: able to do that, quite frankly, even if I was

549
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: getting paid, Like, I just don't know. It's I think

550
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 4: about the time that I was squeezing in between practice

551
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 4: and games and travel and then also trying to be

552
00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 4: a college student and actually enjoy myself. I really don't.

553
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 4: I applaud them. I really applau them. And I think

554
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: it's also why it's kind of fun to be playing

555
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: with them when they come into the pros, because there's

556
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 4: actually now like less of a learning curve for a

557
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: lot of the things we do because of what they're

558
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 4: experiencing at the college space.

559
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially for them too.

560
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like now the conference re alignments their travel.

561
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

562
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: It's like now they have when they get to the

563
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: w they have so much more free time. So actually

564
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: it's like even a little bit easier because I just

565
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 2: remember in school, like we would have I would have class,

566
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: we have practice or shoot around. We'd have class, and

567
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: then I would get take a nap and then I'd

568
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: be like rolling into the gym.

569
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 5: If I was the money that these kids are making,

570
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 5: I would have a stump bubble that goes to class.

571
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: I would not be like, there's no like, there's no

572
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: way y'all are in class.

573
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: There's no way.

574
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 4: Like a good idea.

575
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: You wait.

576
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: When I was at the airport today, they had a

577
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: line a line holder.

578
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: Oh I was I was like, what does that even mean?

579
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: I don't know that. I saw that.

580
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: I saw a woman in the airport who had MS

581
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 4: and because of the TSA lines, she had paid somebody

582
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 4: to push her through the line. Wow, that is insane

583
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 4: to me.

584
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: You can pay somebody to stand in line for you

585
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: and then when you show up to the airport, you

586
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: just take the.

587
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: Spot and that's insane.

588
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: And then how do you explain that to I mean,

589
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: I just that's just not the recipe for success, because

590
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: like how do you how you like bumping through all

591
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: the people?

592
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: But oh no, someone's holding my place, someone's I don't

593
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: believe you.

594
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: I could believe you when you say that to me,

595
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: Like I need proof, I need evidence.

596
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. Okay, at the airport, you know, Okay, wait,

597
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: this is okay.

598
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: This is not how I was going to segue into

599
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: w NBA stuff, But figuring out the airports tsa Meka.

600
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: I want you to walk us through that night we

601
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: were stuck in the DC airport when we had.

602
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 4: I just like I just knew, like you know, like

603
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 4: how like you you're we fly enough to where they're like, oh,

604
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: it's getting delayed this game. I'm like, no, this fight

605
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 4: is going to get canceled. But this fight is going

606
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 4: to get canceled or at least postpones in the morning,

607
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: and we just like people just like no, let's wait listen.

608
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: I'm like no, I.

609
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: Really like, here's some context. When was this This was

610
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: been three years ago?

611
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, like too.

612
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 7: I think it.

613
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 3: Was twenty three.

614
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: I don't remember, but anyway, it was one of these

615
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: years that we were in La together and we're in Washington,

616
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: d C.

617
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: At the smaller are right, you.

618
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 4: Were, I know, like the further one. I I d

619
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: it's actually I don't think it's smaller. I think it

620
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 4: you know, it just has those compartments.

621
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

622
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: So we were at that airport and we had a

623
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: flight from back to La and Wei. This is pre

624
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: charter flights, guys. Okay, So we're sitting the airport chilling,

625
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: and the flight just kept getting delayed and delayed and delayed,

626
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, they just wouldn't put us on

627
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: a new flight. We just had to sit in the

628
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: airport and it got to like eleven o'clock at night.

629
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: I was like, we're not leaving, and they're like, okay, well,

630
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: if you want to stay at the airport, you can stay,

631
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: or if you want to go to the hotels, we

632
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: y'all can go to the hotels.

633
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 4: So you know where the hotels were also thirty minutes away?

634
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all know, at like four or it was like

635
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 2: literally to go take like an hour and a half.

636
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: I really wanted to take a shower, but I you

637
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: know me, I said, fuck, y'all, I'm going to the hotel,

638
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: but Nika and Cheney, y'all stay. Why did y'all stay?

639
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: And then they put it on Twitter and y'all, I

640
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: just need to know, like the thought process. It's now

641
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: that like we can like Kiki about it. Yes, why

642
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: did y'all choose to sleep in the airport and then

643
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: just go on Twitter with it like so.

644
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: So and you know, like Chane and I are not

645
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 4: the type to like blast something like that, but it

646
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 4: was just too ridiculous to not blast. And you know, yes,

647
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 4: the hotel was made available, but quite frankly, remember they

648
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: told us that they weren't sure how many rooms that

649
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: we were going people might have to share not just

650
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 4: a room, but a bed. And I was like, I

651
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: love y'all. I love y'all, I swear, but I'm not

652
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 4: doing it. I'm not doing that and like my sister's

653
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 4: on the team, I'm not about to be laying in

654
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 4: the bed with right now, like we are too delirious.

655
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 4: It's not happening. So Chaney and I thought it was

656
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 4: a brilliant idea we both had. I will never forget this.

657
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: When we used to we used to travel commercially, you know,

658
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 4: I had just gotten like the AMEX Platinum card, and

659
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 4: so like we learn that we could go into like

660
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 4: the lounges and stuff, and so Cheney discovered that she

661
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 4: didn't have one, and immediately like was scrambling to sign

662
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 4: up for one just so she could get into lounge,

663
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: like on the same day that we got to the airport,

664
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 4: and so she had a whole situation with that, and

665
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 4: then she finally had her car, so then with our car,

666
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: we could bring in a certain number of people into

667
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 4: the lounge. And so we decided that we would do

668
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 4: that until the lounge closed. And then what we did

669
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: was we laid in the airport until the lounge opened again,

670
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: and then we went back in. We were like, at

671
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 4: least we can get some breakfast or something. But what's

672
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: crazy is that in that airport there was very few

673
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: places where you could life flat. They had an arm

674
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 4: rest in between each chair, and I mean, ultimately we

675
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 4: were just kind of like whatever, maybe we should have

676
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 4: gone back, but I just didn't want to tease myself

677
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 4: with laying in a bed, knowing that we had a

678
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: six hour flight after this, so I was just like,

679
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 4: you know what, let me just stug it out.

680
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: It was.

681
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: It was so crazy, And you know, I hate airports.

682
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: They're just like not set up for people to be comfortable.

683
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: And I don't understand point. Yeah, like I've never understood that,

684
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: Like now that they wanted to be.

685
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 5: At the transition space, they don't want you to spend.

686
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 3: In the night there, so annoying.

687
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: So the fact that we had an entire professional basketball

688
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: team just sprawled around various parts of the airport.

689
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: But that's exactly why.

690
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: That needs to be posted to the internet, because I,

691
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: as a spectator, would never know that that happened if

692
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't on Twitter.

693
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 5: And it's kind of like.

694
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: The Sedona thing were so much changed after her TikTok

695
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: about the law of the rooms, the weight rooms at

696
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: the tournament, like those things need to be shared with

697
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: the public or nothing's going to happen exact.

698
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right.

699
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 3: I remember watching I remember watching it on Twitter that day.

700
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: I said, oh, here, we can fucking go.

701
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: Well, I think the view always was because I remember

702
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: interviewing uh Cheryl swoops her talking about, oh no, we

703
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: fly commercial like we go to the gate, we get

704
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: like and her putting it like that, I was like,

705
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: I think us as people always thought, you know, y'all

706
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: fly commercial, but you get like preferential treatment, Like it's

707
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: not like even think you signing up to signing up

708
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: to get into the lounge and all that, Like y'all

709
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: should have had lounge access.

710
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 5: All of you as part of the team like that.

711
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: And so to know that you're like at your gate

712
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: with all the especially with safety concerns.

713
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: What say, yeah, but people think that we would like

714
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: we're like looking down at like commercial flights, Like, no,

715
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: a plane is a plane. It's all the before you

716
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: get on the plane and all the after you get

717
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: on a plane. It's the not being able to be

718
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: comfortable in the airport, not having any food that's good

719
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: and nutritious tyat in the airport. It's waiting an hour

720
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: and a half to get all the bags. Like that's

721
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: the part of the commercial flying that was hard for us.

722
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: Not like being in a plane. Got it.

723
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 2: I hate when people were just like, you guys, aren't

724
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: you guys are just regular people?

725
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like we're going to be a college. I

726
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: did my first year, so we.

727
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 4: Only did it for the tournaments, you only flew charters

728
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 4: in the tournament. Yeah, for like the Pac ten Slashtal tournament,

729
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 4: and then also for like March Madness.

730
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, like my first year at Maryland, we were in

731
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: the ACC.

732
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 2: We did commercial and then when we went to the

733
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: Big ten, that's when we started flying charter because Big

734
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: ten had all that money.

735
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: And then you get back to the W and you're like, oh, cute.

736
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: That's.

737
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 4: Look at us, Look at us now.

738
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: I know, I know. Wait what years you get drafted MEKA.

739
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: Twenty twelve, twenty twelve, Okay, so you get drafted to

740
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 2: the Sparks.

741
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: And what was going on with the Sparks when you

742
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 3: got there?

743
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, well, I mean I think that they

744
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: had made some some pretty good like free agency moves

745
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 4: before I got there. You know, they weren't really doing

746
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 4: too well. And so when I got there, like I

747
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 4: was actually kind of surprised, you know me, Like I

748
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: wasn't really paying attention until I was paying attention, And

749
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 4: so when I got there, I was like, this is

750
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 4: a good squad, Like why we have the first thing?

751
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 4: You know, Like I was lokey kind of like what's

752
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 4: going on here? But when I got there, ab Alena

753
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: Beard had gotten there. They had Delasha, Milton Jones, Ebany

754
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 4: was on the team obviously, Candice Yeah, Ebanue was on

755
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 4: the team, Lindsey Harding, Nicki and Sicki, and then I

756
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 4: got drafted with April Psykes too.

757
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 3: What a squad? What a squad?

758
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: So your first the championship he won was in twenty sixteen, yes,

759
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: And that was also the year you won.

760
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 3: MVP.

761
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: Yes, So that year, Like what was that team? Did

762
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: you feel that team was going to win a championship?

763
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: Were you going into that season like I want to

764
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: win MVP? Like what was your mindset going into that

765
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen season.

766
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 4: I don't know why, but going into that twenty sixteen season,

767
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 4: I remember being I remember specifically being in the locker

768
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 4: room after like a game at then the Staples Center,

769
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: and you know, people were like, oh, you know, like

770
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 4: they have like the pre you know, the preseason expectations

771
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 4: and guesses, and they're like, oh, they're saying this person's

772
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: going to be MVP. And I remember sitting in my

773
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 4: locker room I was like, Wow, you know, I'm probably not.

774
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 4: You know, I don't think I'll ever be MVP but

775
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 4: you know, I can continue to play hard and work hard.

776
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: I remember having that specific thought and I just thought

777
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 4: it was so I thought about that at the end

778
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 4: of the season. I was like, wow, like why did

779
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: I think that? You know, just a moment of kind

780
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: of reflection, and I guess thinking about how we shouldn't

781
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 4: speak that stuff into into our belief system and defying

782
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: our own odds. And then you know, going through that

783
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 4: season too, I think what I loved most about that

784
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 4: was we had a group of very mature players and

785
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 4: then we also had a lot of foreigners on our team,

786
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 4: which also kind of like added a kind of cool balance.

787
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 4: But we never talked about winning a championship. It was

788
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 4: only and I to this day personally believe that teams

789
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 4: that come in like we're gonna win a championship, I

790
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: just feel like, who's not saying that? You know? I

791
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 4: just like, like, how do you differentiate yourself? Like what's

792
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 4: the work? You know, what are you doing every day?

793
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 4: And that's kind of how we approached every every single

794
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 4: day you know, we were coming in, whether it was

795
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 4: watching video, walking through we would do drills the same

796
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 4: every single day, but it was as if it was

797
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 4: the first time we were doing the drill. We were

798
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 4: competitive with each other, we were competitive against each other,

799
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: and everything was about out process. Everything was about how

800
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 4: are you doing what you're doing, you know? And I

801
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 4: really did love that. It was about being great in

802
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 4: every moment. And we didn't talk about a championship. We

803
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: just we just had a championship outlook. And there was

804
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 4: a lot of accountability on that team. And it was

805
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: a really special not just a special year, a special

806
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 4: special few years because we went to the finals the

807
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 4: year after that too, and we're able to sustain that.

808
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 4: And that's one thing I need people to understand. And

809
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 4: I'm sure that a lot of people who watch sports. Yeah,

810
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 4: people talk about winning championship, getting there, I don't think

811
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 4: people I don't think people talk enough about how hard

812
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 4: are well it is to put yourself in the position

813
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 4: like yah, to get there is so hard, And that's

814
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 4: why I will always say I'm biased, but I really

815
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 4: do believe like the Links being able to go how

816
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: many years in a row was it?

817
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: It was like almost like eleven, yeah, because they used

818
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: to win. They won every other year for like eight years.

819
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 4: To go to the finals that many times, let alone

820
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: in a row. People don't get it, really don't get all.

821
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 2: They don't at all, like the getting to the because

822
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: getting getting to the playoffs, which now for us is

823
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: going to be even harder, yes, which that kind of

824
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: like excites me a little bit because now like mediocrity

825
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 2: is not going to be rewarded for with the playoffs

826
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: spot because we don't have enough people or enough teams

827
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: to be in the playoffs. Yeah, like getting to the

828
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: playoffs is one thing. Winning multiple series is the next thing.

829
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: Like when you get to the finals, like that's the

830
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 2: fun part. Like I remember, even though I didn't really

831
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: play much that season when we got to the finals

832
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: in Chicago, Like, once you're in the finals, like I

833
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't say like, oh, weight was taken off because again,

834
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: like I.

835
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 3: Wasn't like in the mix.

836
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: But it's like once you get there, it's like everyone

837
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: can like exhale because it's like, Okay, yes, you everyone

838
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: wants to win a championship, but getting to the finals

839
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: is such a huge achievement.

840
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: And yeah, I agree with you. Like people do not understand.

841
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: That's why when people like hate on Lebron, I'm like,

842
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: I don't understand how y'all hate on this man, like

843
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: how many games he has won, how many playoff series

844
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: he's won, Like, it's incredible, It's amazing. So I want

845
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: to talk a little about the Links Sparks.

846
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: Would you consider were y'all rivals? Is that a rivalry?

847
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 4: Yes, I wouldn't. I would definitely call that a rivalry

848
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 4: for sure.

849
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: And y'all were both Were y'all still in Eastern Western

850
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: when that was going on? Or is that when they

851
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: kind of put it all into one thing because of

852
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: y'all low key? So I kind of like made that happen.

853
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 4: I feel like the stars aligned, so like we had

854
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 4: a rivalry with both the Links, and we also had

855
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 4: a rivalry with Phoenix, and that was because up until

856
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, it was East versus West, and so a

857
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 4: lot of the discourse or a lot of you know,

858
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 4: the joke was, hey, whoever comes out of the West,

859
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 4: Like the Western Conference Finals was the championship game, and

860
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 4: then you would go and then you know a lot

861
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: of times it really it was underwhelming to watch the

862
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 4: actual w finals. And so in twenty sixteen they had

863
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 4: decided to go to a super conference. That was the

864
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 4: first time that they did it, and we we were

865
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 4: the players. It was like kind of bittersweet because the

866
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 4: players were like, well, you know, you asked us, we said,

867
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: let's think about it, and you did it anyway, that's

868
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 4: a whole other situation. But right, so it happened, and

869
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 4: I think that they were just they were wanting to

870
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 4: create a situation where the top two teams made it

871
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 4: to the finals. And because of all of the years

872
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 4: of us fighting Phoenix and fighting many to get to

873
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 4: the finals, this was huge now at this point because

874
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 4: now it was like anybody's game. And when that had

875
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: when that happened, it was it was different because now

876
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 4: you're playing certain teams twice, you're playing certain teams like

877
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 4: three or four times. And that first year we had

878
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 4: both in sixteen, we had both started off. By the

879
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: time we met each other, I think we were both

880
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: like either like thirteen and zero or something like that.

881
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 4: And so they had their street, we had ours. They

882
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 4: broke ours, and then we played them I think a

883
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 4: couple games later, and then we broke theirs, and it

884
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 4: just like I mean, it was just everything we did

885
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 4: was vitriol. Every single thing that happened between us was crazy.

886
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 4: And then a lot of things that people don't realize too.

887
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 4: It was like, okay, so we're in the finals, we

888
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 4: play and ab hits that game one, and we lose

889
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 4: game two on the way, like it was to the

890
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 4: point where we couldn't escape them, Like we flew back

891
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 4: on the same flight back to La Candice and Sylvia

892
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 4: were sitting next to each other after game two in

893
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 4: the exit row before in twenty sixteen, that's like a lot.

894
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 4: That's like something that a lot. That's something you need to.

895
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 3: Know, Marijah, that's it's unbelievable.

896
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 4: I could not believe it.

897
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 5: Hold on, like we women's.

898
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: Basketball, y'all thought they have y'all flying commercial on these

899
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: same flights.

900
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 4: These adversaries are off, so it was supposed to not

901
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 4: happen often, but in the situation that we were in,

902
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 4: based on the schedule, that was the only flight that

903
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 4: both teams could make back in time, and so we

904
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 4: ended up being on the exact same flight after we

905
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 4: were now tied one to one in games one and two,

906
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 4: And that.

907
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 3: Makes that's so try play was.

908
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 2: And knowing Syvia she probably was so sweet, nice was sweet,

909
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: So it was.

910
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 4: It was it was just it was such an interesting experience, guys.

911
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: I know like our listeners we have like we have

912
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: a lot of like OGW fans. We also have like

913
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: a lot of baby W fans. If you guys ever

914
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 2: get the opportunity to go watch any of these sparks

915
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: links matchups from what was it, twenty twenty sixteen to

916
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen nineteen.

917
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, like y'all need to go tap in.

918
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: I know, I think leak Pass has the archived games

919
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: the least. I think they're just the least League Pass

920
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: can do, right. I think they all go ahead and

921
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: redownload leak Pass, like we told y'all to do a

922
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 2: few weeks ago. If you haven't done it, do it now.

923
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: Period they were, they were boycotting League Pass. I know

924
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: you knew that about our fans, which really we were like, hey,

925
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 2: you's on there and can we download it?

926
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 3: Everyone was like, no, you don't like League Pass. I say,

927
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: I already paid for it for the year. Just redownload it.

928
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 3: So if y'all have seen any of those.

929
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: Games or playoff series, like, I need y'all to go back.

930
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: Like now, yeah and watch number that was good hoop.

931
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: I I remember.

932
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: In twenty seventeen, by the time our two teams had

933
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 4: met up for Game one of the finals. Our cumulative

934
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 4: score over the past two years was tied nine O

935
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 4: eight to nine O eight.

936
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: That's crazy, Like, I thought, that's amazing.

937
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 8: That was a crazy sat I was like, wow.

938
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, okay, So here's here's a rivalry question. So

939
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: I feel like in the last like three four years,

940
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: and everyone's been signing like just one year deals, one

941
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: year deals, watering for the CBA to happen. Do you

942
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: think like now moving forward, there's going to be like

943
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 2: a re establishment of rivalries because I just feel like

944
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 2: there aren't really any right now.

945
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. Fortunately, yeah, And I think that you're right that

946
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 4: there aren't any because of how people have been signing.

947
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 4: You know. I think what's interesting is that when we

948
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 4: were kind of having conversations in CBA negotiations, there were

949
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 4: different perspectives on you know, the core and maintaining players

950
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 4: and such to ensure that certain teams can develop players

951
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 4: and develop a team around a certain player, and you know,

952
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 4: we were kind of speaking from the perspective of like, well,

953
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 4: you know, we've known that the cb is coming up,

954
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 4: we've known that this is a big CBA and granted, yeah,

955
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 4: perhaps there aren't necessarily like committed team rivalries, but there

956
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: is a lot of competition around the league. Like, I

957
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 4: do think that. I do think that, especially after the CBA,

958
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 4: because players have more freedom of movement and also can

959
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 4: seek more for their value, You're going to see the

960
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 4: talent disperse a little bit more now that hopefully will

961
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 4: lend towards long term, long term tenures of players on

962
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 4: different teams that can now bread you know, certain rivalries.

963
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I think the media they were they

964
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: were trying to force force some rivalries onto us. We

965
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 2: were like, that's not that's not the rivalry.

966
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 7: Yeah.

967
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 4: When I was in LA and they were like I

968
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 4: think it was like a year after Vegas had come in,

969
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 4: and they tried to ask me like, oh, so, what's

970
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 4: this rivalry between you and Vegas? And I was like,

971
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 4: us in Vegas, they just got here, right, I don't

972
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 4: understan Like I really was genuinely confused. I was like,

973
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 4: I don't really. I think that people people mistake storylines

974
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 4: for rivalries. I think storylines and narratives are very different

975
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 4: from historical context.

976
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: You know, like we need to get that sparks links rivalry.

977
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 4: Back popping, like yeah, something like.

978
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: Because there's history there that the sparks like there's history there.

979
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: And I know, like there's so many players all over

980
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: the place now, but I feel like there is there's

981
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: a history there that we have that we can respect

982
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 2: and that we can you know, bring back to light,

983
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: like this is what happened between these two teams five

984
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: ten years ago, and now we were bringing it back now.

985
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 3: And I feel like.

986
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: Because there's but because there's been so much movement of players,

987
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 2: it's been hard to do that. But I feel like

988
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: now it's like the perfect opportunity to start, you know,

989
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: re energizing old rivalries and then like developing new ones,

990
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: especially within the expansion teams come in and everything like that.

991
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: Like I think it could be really fun. So I mean,

992
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 2: I think it's up to us as players, but also

993
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: like media and you know, coaches, Like even with Commissioner's Cup,

994
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: I feel like we need to make that more of

995
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: a for sure.

996
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: Like I was curious with you know, the addition of

997
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: the Commissioner's Cup and the conference is changing the Super

998
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: Conference and you've seen so much change since you've been

999
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: in the league, like so much change. What I think

1000
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 1: the biggest transformation or like the craziest change you feel

1001
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: you experience that you've been in the league.

1002
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. At a time, I thought it was

1003
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 4: the Super Conference, And now I almost feel like the

1004
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 4: more teams we get if we go back to Western

1005
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: and Eastern it is probably if I'm still around for that,

1006
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 4: I think that's also going to be another adjustment. But

1007
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 4: I think, and I'm not even I mean, I'm only

1008
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 4: speaking as someone who's played in one round, I think

1009
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 4: that the biggest change is probably the three, five, seven

1010
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 4: of the playoffs.

1011
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

1012
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 4: I was sitting at home and I was like, how

1013
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 4: are they playing another game? Like?

1014
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 3: This is in seven games? This is crazy.

1015
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 5: I've always thought it was a lot.

1016
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 3: It's a bit excessive, it's a bit much.

1017
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 4: I think I think it is a lot.

1018
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 5: It leaves no room for perdy.

1019
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: But I'm also glad that they took that single lemonade

1020
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: sit away.

1021
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 3: I was like, is this college.

1022
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie like that single elimination thing.

1023
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 3: The game was popping, but it Yeah, Like, as as.

1024
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 4: Someone playing, it definitely sucks. But but I would even

1025
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 4: say like it sucks, not just like even if you win,

1026
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 4: it still sucks, because if you're playing in a single

1027
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 4: elimination game. That means you have no rest if there

1028
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 4: are nation games, which is what happened to us and

1029
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 4: the Links the first years. We did not play postseason

1030
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 4: for two weeks. For two weeks, that is way too

1031
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 4: long to not be playing in a playoff game, and

1032
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 4: so there was just so much going on with that.

1033
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 4: But I actually thought that the playoffs would have if

1034
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 4: we wanted to change it. I thought making it like

1035
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 4: five five five would be better something like that, you know,

1036
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 4: instead of like three five seven.

1037
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: Three five savages make it just doesn't make any sense,

1038
00:53:59,040 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: Like why are we doing that?

1039
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,479
Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't quite understand it. But if games

1040
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 4: were needed.

1041
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought five five five five five just say,

1042
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: just seemed like the logical thing. But then being like

1043
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: surprise seven for the finals, I know, you're crazy. They

1044
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: all tired as hell because they looked tired, and I

1045
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 2: hated that for them because that Vegas Phoenix series I

1046
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 2: thought could have been.

1047
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 3: Much much better.

1048
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: But I just felt like, yeah, they were just so tired,

1049
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 2: and I mean, I think that was the learning curve.

1050
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: So thanks guys for doing that for us, showing us

1051
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 2: what the seven game finals looked like. It looked really

1052
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: really hard. Okay, last thing about w NBA. Okay, I'm

1053
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: going to rag on you for a second. You are

1054
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 2: currently six times six all time on w BA scoring

1055
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: and realistically, Nikka, you could finish top three like this

1056
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: by the end of the season. In yes, realistically you could.

1057
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 2: You can finish top three. You're number five in steals

1058
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: and seventh in rebounds.

1059
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 3: Do you hear this? Guys? Do you hear I can't

1060
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: but wait, guys, okay, wait before let me pause real quick.

1061
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: Every time this summer, so this summer, like Mecca, like broke.

1062
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 2: It's just a shit ton of records, right, so every time,

1063
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 2: and you know, if she she did it on the road,

1064
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: they would announce it at our next home game during

1065
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: like warm ups, or if she did it the game before,

1066
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: they would announce it.

1067
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 3: And just what Nika just did? That's her in the

1068
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 3: warm up wides Wait what I did? What? Every game?

1069
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: It was like every game Necker broke another record. Every game,

1070
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 2: Necker broke another record.

1071
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 4: Also a long time.

1072
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: But you haven't playing a long time, but you're not

1073
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 3: even top ten and games played.

1074
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 4: Really, I feel like everybody should feel like they're in

1075
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 4: top ten. We play a lot of.

1076
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: Games, you know, you do, you do play a lot

1077
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: of games, but not as many as everybody else that's

1078
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 2: in these top ten positions. So, I mean, with that

1079
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 2: being said, you've been you know, your career is built

1080
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 2: on efficiency and consistency, right, So is that something that

1081
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: you came into the league wanting to do?

1082
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 3: Is that something that you just naturally fell into.

1083
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 2: Like I know you're you know, you're nerd, and stats

1084
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: and numbers and analytics probably crosses your mind from time

1085
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: to time. But like, the way you play basketball is

1086
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 2: so it's it was fun to watch, but it's even

1087
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 2: more fun to play next to alongside of. And I

1088
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: hope that at least for me, you feel appreciated about

1089
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: the way you play and everyone. I mean, I feel

1090
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: like people are saying it now that like you're one

1091
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: of the most underrated future Hall of famers in the

1092
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,720
Speaker 2: history of the WNBA. But like, is this a mindset

1093
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: that you've always had of just being consistent and efficient

1094
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: or you just kind of just play and you know,

1095
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: now in the top five, it was good in the

1096
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: top five of that.

1097
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Sexy LEXI. I love you, appreciate you. Okay,

1098
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 4: So when I first started playing, and I was basically taught,

1099
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 4: you know, very fundamental, very kind of like because it

1100
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 4: was all of the dads that were teaching us very

1101
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 4: old school, you know, footwork type of basketball, and through

1102
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 4: that I learned basically, you know, just like the easy

1103
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 4: way to score. I don't want to say easy simple,

1104
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 4: let's say simple.

1105
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 3: So I wasn't.

1106
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 4: I wasn't somebody that had a lot of musters on

1107
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 4: my hot dog like. I just kind of went out there,

1108
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 4: did the job. And I had an expectation of myself

1109
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 4: because of my own individual capabilities, like, Okay, if I

1110
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 4: have two feet in the paint, that's one hundred percent shot.

1111
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 4: You know, there's no reason why that shouldn't be going up.

1112
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 4: And then as defense came, I started learning ways to

1113
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 4: get to that same spot. And over time, being pushed

1114
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 4: by Andrew Beek in high school, you know, she had

1115
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 4: very high expectations me, my high school coach, and then

1116
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 4: of course Tara kind of bread that into me as well.

1117
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 4: And I learned at Stanford that I played in the

1118
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 4: game if I made few mistakes, and so I really

1119
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 4: hung my hat on going in there and not being

1120
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 4: a liability to my team and making sure that I

1121
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 4: was helping us win, and I carry that into the

1122
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 4: pros and eventually, I even though I did how I

1123
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 4: played today, is it not at all how I played

1124
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 4: when I first entered the league. As I grow my game,

1125
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 4: I still try to make sure that it makes sense,

1126
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 4: you know. I just always want to make sure that

1127
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 4: what I'm doing is sensible for me, it's sensible for

1128
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 4: my team. But I think there's a little bit of

1129
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 4: rigidity in how I thought to the point where I mean,

1130
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 4: you know, let's like there are times when I did,

1131
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 4: like if I felt like the shot was off balance

1132
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 4: or not going to be good, I'm like, oh, let

1133
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 4: me get someone else open. And then as years went by,

1134
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 4: I started getting yelled at for that at the boss.

1135
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 4: So I was like, Okay, they're told me that I

1136
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 4: need to shoot it more. I need to get more

1137
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 4: comfortable shooting with like minimal space. I need to get

1138
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 4: more comfortable shooting you know, off balance and such, and

1139
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 4: so I just started working on those things so in

1140
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 4: the moments where I needed to shoot it, that I

1141
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 4: felt comfortable doing it. And and I think this past season, honestly,

1142
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 4: I really grew out of you know, this idea that

1143
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 4: I don't need to shoot it as often, And I

1144
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 4: think that's because of me being able to work on

1145
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 4: my three point.

1146
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: Shot this year, I think, guys.

1147
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 4: But still but still, like I was just I was

1148
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 4: just talking to Asia about Bam and how he had

1149
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 4: all those points, and I was like, girl, if I

1150
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 4: would have shot that many times, I would have thrown.

1151
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: Up right, I did even missed the fact, like the

1152
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 2: conditioning that shit took, Like like.

1153
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: You have to forget the point.

1154
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 4: The type of shape you have to be in to

1155
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 4: take and make that many shots is unbelievable. Like I

1156
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 4: just and I know people were hating on him. People

1157
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 4: do not understand how hard that was. You wouldn't even

1158
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 4: be able to do that in a workout without defense,

1159
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 4: That's what.

1160
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: I was saying, Like I was like my first thought

1161
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: about when I saw like the stat line, I was like,

1162
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 2: he is in crazy shape, crazy shape, because what what

1163
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: do you mean you took shot?

1164
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 3: Like what do you mean you took you.

1165
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 4: Have your legs after a game like that, like.

1166
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 2: Like all the minutes, like are you like yeah, you

1167
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: were getting found? But in the press that he was

1168
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 2: like I was getting rest at the free throw line.

1169
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: I was like please, oh please, because most for sure.

1170
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, so I'm more comfortable now. I will never

1171
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 4: forget when, uh what was it? There was There was

1172
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 4: two games this passing, the one in DC when I

1173
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 4: just came out and I was like making I think,

1174
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 4: made like eleven threes. I was just like, oh, were

1175
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 4: just I don't even know what was happening. I was

1176
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 4: just like, okay, god, yeah.

1177
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, they started guarded. I mean, I

1178
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 3: think again.

1179
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I think one of the best parts of

1180
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 2: your game in real time is your ability to adjust

1181
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: to defenses.

1182
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 3: And you know, your short role, short, short role, and

1183
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 3: everyone is like, okay, enough of the short role.

1184
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: And you started popping, and you started popping, and you

1185
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 2: started in the threes, and you spaced the floor out

1186
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: and you that didn't happen immediately, but as the season

1187
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 2: went on, you know, you just started spacing out and

1188
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: you started getting the threes. And you were like, I said, y'all,

1189
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure she led our team in three point

1190
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: percentage this year.

1191
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was great, but you you were on the

1192
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 4: top of the leaderboard for all of our shooting. When

1193
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 4: I tell y'all, LEXI was like, who beat me?

1194
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 2: No One and everyone was like, all.

1195
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 4: Right, you are four different games, and I was like.

1196
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: Guys, I had to find my victories somewhere, okay, and

1197
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: if it was just amongst my own teammates, so be it.

1198
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 4: Okay, I competitor, I don't even I don't even know

1199
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 4: if I want to do this game.

1200
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 3: That's literally what.

1201
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 4: Lexie would like, watch other people.

1202
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: And heckle them from the side. I'll just be like, okay, yes,

1203
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 2: maybe maybe next time.

1204
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 4: She won all the prizes, I was like, okay, great job.

1205
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 3: Lex thank you, thank you. It's what I do. Okay.

1206
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 2: I know everybody wants to hear C b A T right,

1207
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: so well we won't get we won't. We won't spell

1208
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 2: too too too much, Tea, because this episode was about you,

1209
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 2: not about the cb A.

1210
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 3: But I always.

1211
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 2: Always wanted to know, like what made what what called

1212
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: you to becoming the president of the PA?

1213
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 3: And then when when?

1214
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 2: What was when was your first year of being pressent?

1215
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 2: Oh so you m v P president?

1216
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 4: It was? It was.

1217
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 3: It was Terry wasn't there yet.

1218
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 4: She had just joined it.

1219
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 3: Okay, the dynamic duo.

1220
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, she's Terry is the best.

1221
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 4: Terry down, She's the best sper Down.

1222
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what made you decide to Like were you

1223
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 3: like for people like you.

1224
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: Should run or you should go do this, or were

1225
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 2: you like this is something I want to do.

1226
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 4: Actually, specifically, the former Tamika Catchings was like, you need

1227
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 4: to run, and I was like, I literally told her no,

1228
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 4: and nothinks. She was like, yeah, you know, I know

1229
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 4: I'm asking you, but it's more of like a very

1230
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 4: strong suggestion. I had just come off of being on

1231
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 4: the Executive Committee as the vice president and she was retiring,

1232
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 4: and she was just like, I think you should run.

1233
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 4: And I was like, I mean, okay, I can't say

1234
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 4: no to you, so I'll run and see if I win.

1235
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 4: And no one else ran, so I so I was like,

1236
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:35,479
Speaker 4: I she got me. She got me there, and from

1237
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 4: then on, I just I took it day by day

1238
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 4: because it was very intimidating when I was on the

1239
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 4: EC originally. I mean you had catch when Jane Tanisha,

1240
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 4: Carolyn Swards. I mean, these were women that knew what

1241
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 4: the hell they were talking about. And I was just

1242
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 4: kind of like the youngster who for some reason, my

1243
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 4: teammates kept voting me in and I I never actually

1244
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 4: submitted my name. So I was just like, Okay, well

1245
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 4: let me just do this, and I would sit on

1246
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 4: the calls, no joke, completely mute, like I wouldn't. I

1247
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 4: would just be listening and trying to understand what they

1248
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 4: were talking about. And eventually, you know, I was like, Okay,

1249
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 4: this is way bigger than what I thought it was.

1250
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 4: It's more than just about anytime someone said be a

1251
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 4: player rep. The only thing associated with it was shortfall check.

1252
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 4: That was the only thing which back in the day, yeah,

1253
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 4: it was exciting to get more money, but the shortfall

1254
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 4: was an indicator that teams were not spending up to

1255
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 4: their full cat potential. And to think about that now

1256
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 4: and see where we're at today, it's really remarkable. But

1257
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 4: it's definitely a job that I've grown to love. It's

1258
01:05:55,400 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 4: still hard at times.

1259
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 2: Six months, but it's always worth it.

1260
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 4: Always.

1261
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 2: What was like the when y'all were in New York,

1262
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna go, We're gonna go to New York. What

1263
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: was like, did you have like a moment in New

1264
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 2: York where you were like wanted to like bang your

1265
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: head against the table or like throw your phone across

1266
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: the room.

1267
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 4: There was a moment where I was like, oh my god,

1268
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 4: like that's gonna happen, and what's gonna happen? And it was.

1269
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 4: It was that night before it was announced, because we

1270
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 4: had been there for a week and we were making

1271
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 4: we were making some level of progress, taking things off,

1272
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 4: throwing things over the table, receiving them back, negotiating back

1273
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 4: and forth, and then it was down to the wire

1274
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 4: and we thought that we were going to have to

1275
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 4: go back to the drawing board at one am, my god,

1276
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 4: that that morning, and we waited another hour or so

1277
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 4: and eventually they were like, Nope, deal is done. We're good.

1278
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 4: This is what it is. Congratulations to everyone. And at

1279
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 4: that point I felt great relief. But an hour before

1280
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 4: that happened, I was concerned. Yeah, yeah, I was concerned.

1281
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 2: Is there something that we got on the deal that

1282
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 2: you thought like, no way that, no way they're going.

1283
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 3: To agree to this one.

1284
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: But we're just gonna throw it out there, Like, is

1285
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 2: there anything that they actually agreed to that you were

1286
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: like genuinely surprised that they agreed to.

1287
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 4: I have to be one hundred. Lets you know, we

1288
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 4: were sitting on all those calls, listening to all of

1289
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 4: you guys player reps doing their doing their thing, and

1290
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 4: there was not one thing that I was like surprised

1291
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 4: that we got because of how res the loot the

1292
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 4: majority of players were, you know. And I never walked

1293
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 4: in there thinking, oh, I'm acquiesce, Like I never ever

1294
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:07,959
Speaker 4: had that posture because of how much resolved you all had.

1295
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 4: But then also the confidence that you guys had in us,

1296
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 4: you know, for the past six months. I mean, I've

1297
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 4: been talking to so many different players, and being able

1298
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 4: to talk to players one on one I think is

1299
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 4: by far the biggest win in this whole negotiation, because

1300
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 4: I really feel like I have a relationship with every player,

1301
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 4: even if I don't necessarily know you like that, I

1302
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 4: think that we can connect in a meaningful way. And

1303
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 4: I felt that over over these negotiations, and so I

1304
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 4: never stepped into any space thinking, oh, wow, they gave

1305
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 4: us that. No. I always said thank you, Yes, thank you, Yeah.

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01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 3: Another one, thank you, another one, thank you.

1307
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: Is it ever difficult to not take it personally when

1308
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: being in the league all these years, You know what

1309
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: you and your colleagues and your teammates and the other

1310
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: women of the WNBA deserve, But you're kind of getting

1311
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: told for six months, no, no, No, is it ever hard,

1312
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: like emotionally because at the end of day, I know

1313
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: everyone's like it's business, it's not personal, but it's your housing.

1314
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 5: It's your salary, like it is personal.

1315
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, you know what, I think that I think

1316
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 4: the personability of those issues came out when we were

1317
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 4: live at the table in front of the league. I

1318
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 4: tried my best to not make it personal from my perspective,

1319
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,839
Speaker 4: but anytime a player came to me about an issue

1320
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 4: that we were trying to negotiate or that we were

1321
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 4: fighting for, that's when it became personal for me, and

1322
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 4: so I always made sure that I conveyed that as

1323
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 4: best as I could when we were in the room

1324
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 4: together with the league. And I'm so happy that we

1325
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 4: were able to go through the twenty twenty CBA and

1326
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 4: also the bubble season because a lot of our communications

1327
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,839
Speaker 4: from that experience gave me even more confident into understanding

1328
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 4: how I can communicate the needs and the wants of

1329
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 4: players this time around where the states were much higher.

1330
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think like the biggest difference between twenty

1331
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 2: twenty and now was the involvement of players, Because I

1332
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 2: remember twenty twenty, that was my second year.

1333
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know what's going on? What

1334
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 3: is the CBA?

1335
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: What is this We're having the group meetings in the bubble,

1336
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: people are like we need a play, I need this

1337
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: check da da dah. And I'm like, why are we

1338
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 2: not Why are we not playing? Why are we even

1339
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 2: here if we're not playing?

1340
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 3: Like what is going on? Like what the hell?

1341
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 2: But like I felt like this year, this time around,

1342
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: I was so well informed. I was in all the calls,

1343
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 2: Like I just don't remember that. I don't remember that.

1344
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if it wasn't.

1345
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 2: Offered or like we just didn't care as much, Like

1346
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: I just don't know, Like, but you were you were,

1347
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: you know president then and now did you see like

1348
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: that being a huge impact on how the negotiations went.

1349
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 3: Was our our involvement at as a collective.

1350
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess like I think that both negotiations

1351
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 4: had pretty good engagement. I think that this time around.

1352
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 4: What I feel was different is where the league is,

1353
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 4: you know, and also the types of players that are

1354
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 4: now entering the league. You know, there was no nil

1355
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 4: back when we negotiated the twenty twenty CBA, but we

1356
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 4: did know that we wanted something different and I think

1357
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 4: we also understood that it couldn't be anything as substantial

1358
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 4: as today, but we also had more of I guess

1359
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 4: you could say, you know, those staple vets that had

1360
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 4: been in the league for a really long time and

1361
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 4: so perhaps their participation felt a little bit different. But

1362
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 4: this time around, I actually think that we had more.

1363
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 4: We had more engagement. I mean, we had calls that

1364
01:11:55,000 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 4: were averaging like forty fifty sixty players like that is

1365
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 4: that is pretty rare? Yeah, at least in my time,

1366
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 4: we had hell of players on.

1367
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 2: Every call, so and people were in there talking, like

1368
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 2: making their voices heard. And I think like over time,

1369
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 2: like when shit was starting to get really real, then

1370
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 2: people were like, oh, let me I need to let

1371
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: me say something that I actually care about, because I mean,

1372
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 2: despite what you know, what was being said or reported, like,

1373
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 2: it was like a very open and.

1374
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 3: Judgment free zone.

1375
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: Everyone was free to say whatever they wanted to say, respectfully,

1376
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: of course, but you everyone respected everybody's priorities, even if

1377
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 2: they were different than theirs. And I think, I mean,

1378
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: for me personally, I enjoyed the calls because I liked

1379
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 2: hearing what other people were thinking. And that's why also

1380
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: I liked talking to like Breezy and Ac and all

1381
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 2: the W players in Nashville. Like, like you said, when

1382
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: you talk to other players like just about their experiences,

1383
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 2: you know, you kind of take basketball out of it,

1384
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 2: Like you learned so much about people and their their

1385
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 2: experiences and you're like, oh dang, like they're kind of

1386
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 2: they dealing with something kind of similar to me, Like

1387
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 2: I didn't. I thought I was by myself in this,

1388
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 2: and then you get to learn about you know, their

1389
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: story and why you know they went to this team

1390
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: or why they went to that team. And I felt

1391
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: like overall, like we've got closer as a one what

1392
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 2: is it?

1393
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 3: One? What are we at now? One seventy four? One

1394
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,759
Speaker 3: set whatever number we're.

1395
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're at one seventy something, Yeah, which is amazing

1396
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: because we were we've been at one forty four for

1397
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: a while for a long.

1398
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 3: Time, or like what it was more like one thirty eight.

1399
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 2: Between between one thirty five and one forty four, but.

1400
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 3: We've been one forty four for a while.

1401
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I tell everybody, like how amazing

1402
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 2: you guys are, Like what y'all did, what we did

1403
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 2: is just I like I told us, I told you,

1404
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 2: Like I said a cry when Terry was going through

1405
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 2: the CBA all of the points that we agreed on,

1406
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this is this is amazing,

1407
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: Like y'all, y'all eight I ate that we all did well,

1408
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Like it was incredible.

1409
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 3: So right, do you have any more CBA questions? Oh

1410
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 3: my gosh, I mean, I go on all day.

1411
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: But I think the main thing is just like seeing

1412
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: how far the league has come to where like now

1413
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: there are gonna be WNBA millionaires, Like how does it

1414
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: feel to have seen the way.

1415
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 5: The WNBA has evolved?

1416
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: But also the way that like casual fans and fan

1417
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: bases are like getting behind the league and we're getting

1418
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: behind you guys throughout this process.

1419
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. I mean, I feel like I've lived

1420
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 4: in so many different W worlds and we're now entering

1421
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 4: another one, a very new one. But one thing that

1422
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 4: I that has been very consistent is is that fan

1423
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 4: that fan engagement, and that that fan support. You know,

1424
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 4: granted it looks very different back in the day, but

1425
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 4: you had fans of the w back in the day.

1426
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 4: I just believe that now, you know, media is finding

1427
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 4: a way to monetize on it, and so when you

1428
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 4: have more eyes on it, more people want to be involved.

1429
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 4: I I really am. I'm realizing now just how much

1430
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 4: this how many lives, this is kind of changing, not

1431
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 4: just not just because we have fans that want to

1432
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 4: watch us, but that's huge. You know, we had fans

1433
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 4: that weren't buying tickets until they were like, hello, you know,

1434
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 4: put money in their pockets, like We're like. The way

1435
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 4: that they were supporting us, The way that there's discourse

1436
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 4: around this is truly unprecedented. But then you know to

1437
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 4: also see to also see and hear from players. I

1438
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 4: think that's been my favorite part is that I've gotten

1439
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 4: a lot of text from players that were like, yeah,

1440
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 4: you know, just just turning up about it, you know,

1441
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 4: sending sending regards and and talking about how like, I mean,

1442
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 4: their lives are changing, Like you have you have players

1443
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 4: who's whose lives are changing the way where not just

1444
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 4: that they can build wealth, but like generational wealth. You

1445
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 4: have players who played in this league who get something

1446
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 4: to show for the time that they put in here.

1447
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 4: It's i think with every person that gets hit with

1448
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 4: a change that's implemented in this CBA It's kind of

1449
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 4: another mini celebration because you really don't realize how much

1450
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 4: this is changing until people share their experience, like let's

1451
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 4: see what's saying and and I think, I mean, that's

1452
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 4: why we do this. You know, we don't do this

1453
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 4: for the lead to stay the same forever. You know,

1454
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 4: we're changing, we're growing, so everything has to has to

1455
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 4: progress with it.

1456
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 2: This summer is going to be crazy. Okay, I'm not

1457
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 2: even gonna ask you about free agency.

1458
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna put you on.

1459
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 2: The spot like that because I ain't gonna I ain't

1460
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 2: gonna do you like that, Mecca. But you know you

1461
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 2: already know where I want you to be. But we

1462
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 2: won't even get into free agency because y'all already Knownika

1463
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 2: is probably one of the hottest commodities on the market.

1464
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 2: So but y'all heard it here. I want her to

1465
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 2: still be my teammate. But everyone has to chick do

1466
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 2: what's best for them, and I love it. I respect it.

1467
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 2: But you know, I saw you.

1468
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 3: I saw your locker the other day and I was like,

1469
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 3: I miss Meka. I mean I saw everybody. Everybody's lockers

1470
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 3: are still up, so I was like, we miss miss

1471
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 3: the squad. I miss y'all. I don't know if y'all listen.

1472
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 2: To I don't know if any y'all listening, but I

1473
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 2: do miss I do miss the squad. I do miss

1474
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 2: the squad, and I missed the facility and it was

1475
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 2: nice to be back. So my last question is what

1476
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 2: can we expect from Mecca in this season in twenty

1477
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 2: twenty six.

1478
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 4: Just you know me, I always want to win and

1479
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,719
Speaker 4: I want to be great. I just want to continue

1480
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 4: to to up my game and to help my team

1481
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 4: and to compete, you know, That's really what it's all

1482
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 4: about for me. I want to still feel like I

1483
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,640
Speaker 4: can go out there and bust some ass, you know,

1484
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 4: and that's what I always work towards doing. And hopefully,

1485
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,640
Speaker 4: you know, maybe a more relaxed Mecha now that the

1486
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 4: CBA is done.

1487
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, I wish I could see that go walking

1488
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 2: around last season. Sometimes we're like, oh, We're like, we're

1489
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 2: just like, we love you, Mecca.

1490
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 3: She'd just be like you do. Yeah, But it was

1491
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 3: worth that.

1492
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 2: It was totally, totally, totally, totally, total, okay, the most

1493
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 2: self liss amazing superstar that I've had the blessing of

1494
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 2: being around. Thank you so much Nika for spending some

1495
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 2: time with us on Full Circle Podcasts. If y'all had

1496
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,400
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01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:16,200
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01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,200
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